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August 12, 2008 1:37pm by David Farrar

General Debate 12 August 2008

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Bryan Spondre

Email is more important than the telephone.
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August 12, 2008 1:46pm
Glutaemus Maximus

Can someone explain why the Immigration volume in the ‘Investor Category’ into NZ has gone from 1000+ in 2002 to just one so far in 2008?

With Kiwis departing by the plane load to OZ, surely it makes sense to try and attract the best of the best from around the World?

Or do we want just 4m peeps through time?
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August 12, 2008 2:08pm
stephen

Glutaemus Maximus, try there: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10524887

This is from a couple of years back:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10389240

Actually if you’re that interested, just type “investor category” (with quote marks) into the Herald website search box sometime.

edit: i’m not disgustingly helpful, i just remember reading about it in the paper edition a while back.
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August 12, 2008 2:29pm
big bruv

For some reason the level of debate has improved out of sight today, there are no flame wars and nobody is being abused.

I wonder why that is?
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August 12, 2008 2:35pm
stephen

You might be on to something, but takes two to tango bruv.
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August 12, 2008 2:37pm
Shunda barunda

Here you go big bruv

I………hate………national,;”””===-
Righties “are”…………………..tossers……………………..
The ….greens don’t…………..like me………anymore………
…………………………….either…………………………..
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August 12, 2008 2:43pm
stephen

Shunda barunda, you missed a word that starts with ‘e’ and ends with ‘h’
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August 12, 2008 3:00pm
Shunda barunda

Dam it!!!! my one chance at doing a “philu” and I blew it!!!!!
It is a very tricky litterary form to get right.
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August 12, 2008 3:05pm
Dr Robotnik

Who the fuck is Clinton Smith and why is he link whoring all over town (Ok, the stuff political blogs) to the pathetic leftie propaganda blog purported to be run “from the inside” and featuring such wonderfully insightful and unbiased commentators as “Steve Pierson”?

Is Matthew Pilott, great leftie blog commentator and defender of the glorious incumbent government, in anyway related to Brenda Pilott, secretary of the PSA?

Is he now posting simply as “Matt” on the stuff blogs?

Can we bring back philu? The dog, amongst others, is probably sick to death of him by now and I like watching retards embarassing themselves in public.
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August 12, 2008 3:06pm
stephen

It is a higher literary form if you believe him Shunda. Anyhoo…
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August 12, 2008 3:17pm
Bryan Spondre

Dr Robotnik:”Who the fuck is Clinton Smith and why is he link whoring all over town ”

Leaving “The Standard” out of my response there is nothing wrong with “link whoring”. It is an honorable trade and is currently putting food on my table. I am proud to be called a “link whore” and have even registered the domain name (linkwhore.co.nz) for use in my retirement.

Not clear why Clinton Smith is still posting as Steve Pierson now that he has come out ?
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August 12, 2008 3:25pm
Chuck Bird

I wonder if the offender was a man if there would have been criminal charges and if the there would have been name suppression.

It is good that she accepts that she deserves to be struck off but blames a relationship breakup with her former fiance

How much sympathy would a man get with that excuse?

Penelope, do you consider this women to be weak and pathetic or is it her former fiance fault for leaving her “emotionally vulnerable”?

Breakup blamed for relationship with pupil By LANE NICHOLS – The Dominion Post | Tuesday, 12 August 2008

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4652097a11.html

A teacher has been struck off for having a sexual relationship with one of her teenage pupils.

The woman, who is in her early 30s and has two young children, says she is deeply ashamed and blames a relationship breakup with her former fiance for leaving her “emotionally vulnerable”.

Documents issued yesterday by the Teachers Council show the woman’s life slid out of control after she and the youth, who was 12 years her junior, were caught out. She was disowned by her parents, admitted to hospital for depression and twice tried to take her own life. A psychologist’s report indicated she suffered from anxiety disorders and borderline personality traits.

In 2005 the woman, who was in her first year of teaching, began a sexual relationship with the year 12 pupil which lasted several weeks. She refused to name the youth when confronted by school authorities, saying his parents wanted to deal with the emotional fallout themselves and feared gossip.

“Regret does not even begin to describe my feelings about the relationship … I feel terrible about what the school and his family have been through,” she wrote.

“At the time when I was dealing with a relationship breakup I became close to a group of students and entered into a sexual relationship with one of the students.

“The past seven months have been the worst in my life. I felt so ashamed for what I did to my school and my departments. Also my family. I really let everyone down. I have felt I deserved everything coming to me.”

At a disciplinary tribunal hearing in June, prosecuting lawyer Jenny Gibson said the teacher had abused her position of trust and breached ethical obligations.

The tribunal ruled that any sexual relationship between a pupil and teacher was serious, formally censured the woman and ordered her to be struck off.
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August 12, 2008 3:34pm
Falafulu Fisi

Dr. Robotnik said…
Who the fuck is Clinton Smith?

According to freakingnews site, it is a morph of Bill Clinton and Will Smith.
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August 12, 2008 3:42pm
big bruv

I think the more important question re Clinton Smith (aka Steve Pierson) is who pays the man?, he seems to spend all day posting crap and blatant lies on the John Key hate site.

He is either an employee of the EPMU or works in the office of the PM.
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August 12, 2008 3:47pm
tim barclay

I am seriously pissed off with the olympics coverage. The state owned monopoly television station insists on giving us what they want us to see. We cannot follow anything else despite having a sky television service which could cover any number of sports in HD as well. This state owned monopoly only covers NZ stuff, not in HD. Next time TVNZ could be permitted to have coverage of events where there is a NZ presence and have no monopoly agreement forcing us to watch the amateurish coverage by TVNZ.
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August 12, 2008 3:50pm
Tauhei Notts

Chuck Bird at 3.34 p.m.
Damnation.
They never ever had teachers like that when I was in the lower sixth form.
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August 12, 2008 3:55pm
stephen

tim barclay, got the interweb yet? http://tvnz.co.nz/content/1843600
According to this fulla, Triangle is showing Olympics too http://publicaddress.net/5216#post5216 (might just be auckland though)
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August 12, 2008 4:00pm
Chuck Bird

Tauhei, i do not wish to be rude but I can not tell from your name whether you are male or female. If you are male it would appear this teacher was batting for the other team which was of course the fault of her fiancée for dumping her.
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August 12, 2008 4:08pm
bustedblonde

okay guys – i need to go to blog school , actually i probably need to go to blackberry school as well – I am hooked – after posting for a while Ive done the blog thing http://roarprawn.blogspot.com I have LOTS more to tell…………

but there must be some place I can learn how to puts some geeky bits on the blog or do you have to buy stuff like RSS etc?

I know that this is a poly blog but I need help ( the ozzie boy partner will attest to that! )
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August 12, 2008 4:31pm
bustedblonde

test
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August 12, 2008 4:44pm
bustedblonde

hm now it works – sorry about that – okay I know this is a poly blog but I have been bitten by the blog bug. I need to go to blogging school and blackberry school as well – any way where do I go to find out how to add fancy bits to my blog like RSS feed etc…. roarprawn.blogspot.com
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August 12, 2008 4:46pm
Buggerlugs

Hey, why doesn’t this have an authorisation statement: http://www.votegreen.org.nz/ ?
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August 12, 2008 4:57pm
Buggerlugs

Is it because they don’t give a fuck? Or they’ve been given the OK to ignore the law by Hellen?
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August 12, 2008 4:58pm
JSF2008

The Russians have won in Georgia, do you think the russians will chase the winston peter look alight and sounding IDIOT georgian president that bought this shit down on himself and his tinpot country, any person who rockets a city like this western lackey did in the night deserves a bear bite in the arse PS no WW3 or help this war involves real fighters, with real weapons not arabs. too hard for the USA to stomach
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August 12, 2008 5:31pm
noskire

Personalised M&M’s http://www.mymms.com/ – I love it. Tempted to buy some for Winston.

Marcus Lush had a very good point on Radio Live this morning – why are there no American Indians competing in the archery events at the Olympics?
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August 12, 2008 7:16pm
noskire

Tim, re the Olympics. YouTube is showing full coverage, though not for anyone from NZ. Easy way around that is installing something like Hotpsot Shield to mask your IP.
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August 12, 2008 7:19pm
Political Busker

If I say on this blog: Don’t vote National, can I get arrested?
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August 12, 2008 8:18pm
big bruv

Noskire

TVNZ’s website coverage is pretty bloody good, right now I am watching (on crystal clear broadband) an outstanding Volleyball game between Serbia and Brazil.

And NO adverts!.
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August 12, 2008 8:18pm
Political Busker

Stephen: Eye spell with my little i; Shunda Barunda meant…

epitaph!

Has Philu gone?
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August 12, 2008 8:23pm
Political Busker

Noskire: How many Maori are in our waka races?
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August 12, 2008 8:34pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

When is NZ likely to win its first medal and when will Australia start ripping into NZ’s lack of Olympic medals?
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August 12, 2008 11:12pm
expat

ahem did i mention im checking email and blogging on my new asus eee pc901.

very quick running linux.
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August 13, 2008 7:30am
Short Shriveled and Slightly to the Left

“Dam it!!!! my one chance at doing a “philu” and I blew it!!!!!”
there’s still time
why not take him to dinner and a movie
or better yet dinner and some drinks 😉
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August 13, 2008 8:19am
big bruv

I see that poodle Dunne has waded into the debate about Nationals social welfare policy.

He would be the most annoying and sanctimonious wanker (Winston aside) in the house.

The only thing I want to hear from this prick is when he is going to pay back the money he stole from me.
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August 13, 2008 9:09am

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