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Kea

And if youre gonna talk about ancient history of my ancestors lets talk about yours and the crusades. Not a hell of alot of difference there.

Yes lets talk about the Crusades.

You have the floor pollywog …
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May 20, 2013 6:44pm
Left Right and Centre

SUCCESS!!!!!!!

Listen To Your Heart- Roxette……. FUCK ME DAYS!!!!!
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May 20, 2013 6:45pm
pollywog

What trade there was was largely limited to swapping stuff with people who made exactly the same stuff as you.

Happy times indeed.

Throw in some fighting for shits and giggles, lots of naked singing, dancing and debauchery with a bit of sailing and fishing in the down times and…

oh yeah, thanks for fucking all that up with your higher cultural gifts !
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May 20, 2013 6:48pm
dime

“Whats special about Pasifikans is we are bred more fitter to survive, based on the mixed bloodlines (nature) and the hardships we endure (nurture).

Europeans have too much Neanderthal that still needs breeding out. ”

just a racist douche. i bet youre one of those skinny little ones. the ones that they used to turn into girls back in the day
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May 20, 2013 6:51pm
Kea

Throw in some fighting for shits and giggles, lots of naked singing, dancing and debauchery with a bit of sailing and fishing in the down times and…

Sounds like South Auckland on benefit day.
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May 20, 2013 6:52pm
Left Right and Centre

I’d like to profusely apologise to all of humanity’s nerds for telling them that their technology sucks. I suck. But who cares… I’m going to be running to tracks from my own collection of music on an MP3 player. Life-changing.

I WANT MY FUCKING MTV……….. YEEEEEEE-YEAH!!!!!!!!! This is going to be the best 10KM run EVER!!!!!! I’m going to dance the whole fucking thing…..
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May 20, 2013 6:55pm
Kea

i bet youre one of those skinny little ones. the ones that they used to turn into girls back in the day

dime, I walked into into a bar in K Road with my Chinese girlfriend. It was full of them ! They were all about 7 foot tall in their heels. Funny thing when I checked my eftpos transactions there was one lot in bold print THE BIG GAY DAY. I guess that was the place LOL
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May 20, 2013 6:57pm
Kea

Left Right and Centre, how is the running going anyway ?
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May 20, 2013 6:59pm
nasska

Getting back to this ancestor racket Polly you must concede that there is no way to compare our lineages.

The Crusades were groups of noble British who made the trip out to the Middle East to kick the arses of some Islamic heathens who were threatening the peace.

The Polynesian Migration however, was a few canoe loads of losers escaping a couple of dozen little Chinese blokes who wanted to holiday on Taiwan. 🙂
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May 20, 2013 6:59pm
pollywog

Its not racist dime. It’s just a a matter of fact.

and no one used to turn anyone into girls…it was always a choice.

I bet you’re an ugly, hairy, freckled ginga with a small cock, an overhanging brow and whose knuckles drag along the ground.
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May 20, 2013 7:00pm
dime

how dare you call me a ginga!

heres the thing pollywog. youre a shit example of your people.

im just going to leave it at that 🙂
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May 20, 2013 7:02pm
Kea

pollywog I am still waiting to what you have to say about the crusades. ?
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May 20, 2013 7:03pm
Left Right and Centre

Elaycee 6:35 pm Thanks. I’m an impatient fuckwit and it causes me severe internal bleeding and mental anxiety to actually have to read anything or try to learn anything when I just want it to work without the pain.

I bought it today and I just wanted to see if I couldn’t throw something on there for a run tonight and then work out all the ins and outs afterwards. Like how to make a tailored playlist from computer to MP3 etc… do that later. I’ve only just uploaded all my cds… and the internet has named half of them incorrectly… so that’s another mess I’ve got to deal with. Good fun.
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May 20, 2013 7:04pm
dime

kea – youre dating a chinese chick now? ive never dated an Asian.. for my than an hour. tempted though. if things dont work out with current hottie 😛

90% of the time when im perving on a chick from behind, shes asian. must be the fact that their asses arent 3 foot wide
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May 20, 2013 7:04pm
Left Right and Centre

I’m stuck in the fucking 20th century people. Nothing I own is fucking flat. I’m behind everyone else when it comes to every type of personal technology conceivable. I’ll get there one day. Maybe by 2018 I’ll have caught up to 2011?
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May 20, 2013 7:07pm
pollywog

The Crusades were hordes of stinking murderous cannibal Europeans who made the trip out to the Middle East to massacre Bedouin folk who were smarter and more prosperous than them.

The Polynesian Migration however, was a few canoe loads of intepid, courageous pioneers navigating the largest expanse on Earth settling and resettling it to become a people more adapted to survive into the future than any.

FIFY 😉
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May 20, 2013 7:09pm
pollywog

…and no dime. I’m a shining example of who my people should be more like.

I’m just going to leave it at that too 😛
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May 20, 2013 7:13pm
nasska

You left off the “once upon a time” & the end part where they “all lived happily ever after” Polly! 🙂
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May 20, 2013 7:14pm
dime

what? lazy & bitter?
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May 20, 2013 7:14pm
Kea

dime, not at present. Though there is one I really like, but she is visiting family in China at the moment.

A bit of advice. Asian women are NOT meek and submissive. They have very clear ideas about how things should be done and are not as compromising as European women. There are rules. Many Chinese girls are a real handful and not for the faint hearted. You have been warned 😉

There are lots of good points about them too. Many guys struggle to go back to European girls after dating an Asian. They have amazing bodies and are great lovers. You can build a future with the right one.
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May 20, 2013 7:15pm
Kea

So pollywog, do you think the crusaders owe something to those they invaded ?
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May 20, 2013 7:18pm
pollywog

No dime…enlightened and liberated.
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May 20, 2013 7:20pm
kowtow

The European crusaders were invited by the Byzantine Emperor to help him recover territory lost to the invading,occupying Muslim Arabs.

Since then of course Constantinople has fallen and Rome could be next.

The Emperor got a bit more than he bargained for and since the 70’s or so limp wristed westerners with poor self esteem and leftist leanings feel they have something to apologise for.
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May 20, 2013 7:21pm
Left Right and Centre

I know that John Campbell has to stand right next to Gerry Brownlee because it’s TV and it’s the only way to fit them both into the shot… especially Gerry… but still just totally wrong and unnatural to be inside each other’s personal space body to body. Such fun.
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May 20, 2013 7:25pm
pollywog

if what you say is true kowtow then…

The European crusaders were hordes of stinking murderous cannibal Europeans invited by the Byzantine Emperor to help him recover territory lost to the invading,occupying Muslim Arab Bedouin folk who were smarter and more prosperous than them.
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May 20, 2013 7:28pm
David Garrett

Righto..into the 21st century…I used to think that the predictions the MSM was doomed were all made by pimply faced youths sitting in front of their computers with their i-pod earpieces (it’s like a Walkman, only smaller, apparently) in their ears…but get this, just from today’s “news” :

A guy who died in a fire in Rotorua had “one times the amount of alcohol in his blood for driving”…that’s ” the legal limit of alcohol for driving” in curmudgeon-speak isn’t it?

And

“Ivan Maheno was shot dead and his wife later died in hospital in an incident in Fairburn yesterday…” So where was the wife shot…in hospital? Is the hospital in Fairburn?

And both of the above are from what was once New Zealand’s “journal of record”…is it just me, or is the MSM now staffed by kids my 11 year old daughter would embarrass when it comes to use of language?
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May 20, 2013 7:31pm
dime

ya lost me at not meek and submissive haha

pollywog – you seem bitter to me. instead of going out and getting what your worth (which i guess is fuck all) you bitch and complain about whitey. i guess thats why. you found out youre worth about 20k a year
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May 20, 2013 7:31pm
Kea

dime, they can fake it, especially in public. Every man should have at least one Asian girlfriend in his lifetime, but I warn you, they can be enchanting. 🙂
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May 20, 2013 7:38pm
pollywog

Money isn’t the measure of a mans worth dime and it sure as fuck ain’t a measure of success in my culture.

you seem like an insecure, impotent kind of jealous guy.
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May 20, 2013 7:42pm
Kea

pollywog, but the people of the Middle East also invaded Europe, which was my point.

Claiming special rights on the basis of historic wrongs is a dangerous idea and the source of much of the worlds suffering. We owe nothing to the Pasific People are already too generous to them with race based funding.
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May 20, 2013 7:45pm
Kea

you seem like an insecure, impotent kind of jealous guy.

A lovely dark eyed Asian girlfriend will fix the impotence polly 😉
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May 20, 2013 7:46pm
pollywog

It’s about uplifting the needy and marginalised through funding…The classic handup not handout.

Don’t let the ‘race’ thing cloud the issue.
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May 20, 2013 7:49pm
Kea

pollywog, why can they not lift themselves up ?

The cold hard fact is that funding is given on the basis of race in many examples. Brash was labelled are a racist for suggesting funding on need … not race !
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May 20, 2013 7:53pm
nasska

My number one sexual fantasy actually came true last weekend – to go to bed with two lesbians!

Now my number one sexual fantasy is to go to bed with two lesbians who actually look like women.
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May 20, 2013 8:00pm
dime

“Money isn’t the measure of a mans worth dime and it sure as fuck ain’t a measure of success in my culture.”

well maybe it should be!

“you seem like an insecure, impotent kind of jealous guy.” yeah ya found me out. insecure as hell. as for impotent, stand by for a pxt of my boner haha
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May 20, 2013 8:06pm
David Garrett

Well, no-one wants to talk grammar, syntax, and falling standards…

Kea: Those little (or even not so little) Asians are only after the wallet and the credit limit mate….dont ever let yourself be fooled…
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May 20, 2013 8:06pm
wiseowl

nasska

lucky bastard
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May 20, 2013 8:10pm
pollywog

Like I said, the funding is on need if you look at the stats and disregard the ‘race’ bullshit.

As for why Pasifika can’t lift themselves up at the mo. It’s because of an inherent institutionalised euro cultural bias and differing cultural values.

We’re not greedy at the expense of others and value family, health and happiness over money and consumer goods. We also don’t have the culture of success in the free market to draw on and role model accordingly.

it is changing slowly, intergenerationally.
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May 20, 2013 8:13pm
dime

“We’re not greedy at the expense of others” – why do you idiot lefties always think wealth is created at the expense of others? ever heard of economic growth? creating a business that provides goods & services people want to pay for.
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May 20, 2013 8:15pm
Jack5

People Liberation Army hackers have resumed their spying and hacking of Western sites.

Maurice William-Sung and the others in National’s Chinaphile group please note. The link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/20/world/asia/chinese-hackers-resume-attacks-on-us-targets.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130520&_r=0&pagewante
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May 20, 2013 8:28pm
Kea

As for why Pasifika can’t lift themselves up at the mo. It’s because of an inherent institutionalised euro cultural bias and differing cultural values.

We’re not greedy at the expense of others and value family, health and happiness over money and consumer goods. We also don’t have the culture of success in the free market to draw on and role model accordingly.

pollywog, what you are really saying is the you think Pacific Islanders should get all of the benefits Europeans have, without making any of the sacrifices Europeans do to get them.

Where does this gimmie gimmie bullshit come from ?

I actually admire PI’s for the sorts of things you describe and I am very concerned about our materialistic culture. But you can not have it both ways. You want it then you earn it.
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May 20, 2013 8:30pm
Kea

Well, no-one wants to talk grammar, syntax, and falling standards…

Kea: Those little (or even not so little) Asians are only after the wallet and the credit limit mate….dont ever let yourself be fooled…

David:

1. No

2. Yes I know.

I do not hold it against them and marrying well is seen as “responsible” rather than gold digging. They come from a region with no social security. In the case of the Chinese, it was not long ago tens of millions starved to death. Their materialism can be confronting to us, but I get where it is coming from.
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May 20, 2013 8:34pm
Judith

wiseowl (262) Says:
May 20th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
nasska

lucky bastard
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Why is it that so many men seem to have lesbian tendencies?
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May 20, 2013 8:40pm
David Garrett

Oh Moses…the killer’s mate is back….a book calls me…
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May 20, 2013 8:43pm
nasska

…”Why is it that so many men seem to have lesbian tendencies?”….

It could be the fascination of forbidden fruit coupled with the trauma of not being breast fed Juliet….on the other hand maybe we’re just naturally kinky. 🙂
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May 20, 2013 8:47pm
wiseowl

Judith
Its a secret for you to find out.
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May 20, 2013 8:57pm
pollywog

Save the idiot leftie shit for your own kind dime…Left and right wing don’t apply to Pasifikans so much. Neither does socialist or capitalist.

You don’t hear us going on about the gimme gimme entitlement shit and least not me. We tend to be the silent, humble minority and its usually do goody advocates bleating on our behalf reinforcing the welfare dependency trope. We tend to just keep our heads down and tails up and make the most of it.

And we know more about sacrifice than most ethnicities. The most I’ve ever wanted was a level playing field and not even so much for me, but for those less fortunate.

I’m all for working to get benefits and don’t expect any special treatment , but I’m not naive enough to think we aren’t discriminated against and that the cards aren’t stacked in favour of Eurocentrism. Even so, its getting better and nowhere near as openly racist as it was a generation ago.

But lets not think it’s a land of equal opportunity just yet. So much more work to do to uplift my people and change attitudes on both sides of the fence.
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May 20, 2013 9:02pm
Johnboy

“We’re not greedy at the expense of others and value family, health and happiness over money and consumer goods.”

Your Ministers seem to understand the value of money alright! 🙂
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May 20, 2013 9:05pm
dime

“You don’t hear us going on about the gimme gimme entitlement shit and least not me”

is that a joke? youre from the far left. you want to raise taxes. are you just going to burn the money collected? or redistribute?

i think the PI’s get a rough deal in this country and i blame the left for it. too much race targeted shit and not helping those who need it.

but i guess thats where our differences lay.
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May 20, 2013 9:10pm
Johnboy

Pollies family values! 🙂

http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/skitz-1998
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May 20, 2013 9:23pm
Viking2

Why schools are failing our boys

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May 20, 2013 – 11:30AM
Maggie Dent

Boys will be boys, they tell us, but how many of us actually take this adage to heart and embrace it?

I am the mother of four boys, now all adults. If I think back to their childhoods and adolescence, it’s a whirlwind of movement and physicality, adventure and injury, rough and tumble play, of fart jokes and stinky sports shoes, short and to-the-point communication, and lots and lots of food and Milo. (Actually, it’s not so different when we all get together now.)

This description of life with boys won’t surprise most people – and yet why is it that the one place where children spend most of their time, school, is so stacked against meeting boys’ needs?

http://www.essentialkids.com.au/younger-kids/kids-education/why-schools-are-failing-our-boys-20130517-2jqfh.html#utm_source=FD&utm_medium=lifeandstylepuff&utm_campaign=maggiedent
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May 20, 2013 9:29pm
Kea

But lets not think it’s a land of equal opportunity just yet. So much more work to do to uplift my people and change attitudes on both sides of the fence.

So why do you choose to uplift your people in another country where you are not treated equal [yet] ?

I would have thought it best to achieve that goal away from the racist settler culture that is holding you back so much.
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May 20, 2013 9:32pm
kowtow

jack5

Maurice William Sung, hahahaha velly funny.

On a related issue:

What’s the point of having been the countly with such crose lerations and being first in world to leconnise China as flee tlade counlty if a few phone calls between the relevant ministers can’t sort out this meat shit?

I leckon China making a point,but what about?
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May 20, 2013 9:36pm
Kea

Viking2, we live in a culture of institutional misandry where the most extreme and destructive feminist doctrine has been totally normalized to such an extent it is invisible to most people. Anti male hate groups are sponsored openly by government. A whole ministry is employed to marginalise boys under the guise of “helping” women. Then we have the Pete George types, the enablers, labeling men as rapists and dead soldiers as neglectful fathers.

No wonder our boys are not doing well. Males are not doing well.

We are over represented in all the negative social stats. We are most likely to suffer violence, be murdered, killed at work, fail at school, get locked up, we die first, abuse drugs, suicide and so on. Other groups get specially targeted funding with half those issues !

Instead we get nothing and feminist lobby groups get millions. It is a sick joke.
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May 20, 2013 9:40pm
pollywog

Most of our ministers are neither enlightened nor liberated. Their love of money is the root of their evil, as is everyones where money is concerned.

Money in itself holds no value. It’s merely a means to an end. The end being happiness. Money can’t buy the colour of sunsets over the sea, a look of excitement from a child over a bedtime story, the true love of a partner or pride in a job well done.

Wanting to uplift my people in the land i was born to is what i am meant to do first…i think ?

BTW I didn’t realise wanting to raise taxes on those who can afford it the most, to spend on things we can all benefit from was far left ?
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May 20, 2013 10:29pm
UglyTruth

Their love of money is the root of their evil

Evil existed before money was invented.
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May 20, 2013 11:03pm
bereal

dime @ 7.04

look harder next time, there is no such thing as a Chinese sheila with a decent bum.
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