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Captain Mainwaring

Those foiling moth boats that Burling’s been sailing are amazing.
Looks about as easy as riding a unicycle on ice.
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July 31, 2017 8:02am
- rangitoto
  
  He’s doing well since he hasn’t sailed one of them for three years.
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:14am
- Biscuit
  
  There are so many classes in Yachting these days it is fast becoming as confusing as Swimming.
  
  Freestyle
  Breaststroke
  Backstroke
  Dog-paddle
  Butterfly
  Moth
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:36am
  - holysheet
    
    No sign of submarine class yet?
    
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    July 31, 2017 8:48am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      I do rock
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:11am
    - sooty
      
      Australians excell at that!
      
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      July 31, 2017 1:38pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    moth…..
    
    I thought you were joking..
    you forgot trudgeon
    and sidestroke…
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swimming_stroke
    
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    July 31, 2017 9:47am
  - rangitoto
    
    Moths have been around since at least the 70’s. I remember there was Moth fleet at the club I sailed at as a teenager back then. It’s an open development class so new inovations like foiling have been added over the years.
    
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    July 31, 2017 9:54am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Getting 2nd in the world in a supremely tricky-to-sail class that he hasn’t sailed in for a few years shows what a dominating talent he is. Hopefully ETNZ sets up a class rule for the next cup that can exploit that advantage.
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:56am
Captain Mainwaring

And who’s leading the charge of the four retired PMs gunning for an increase in our refugee intake?
That’s right, the useless old fossil Geoffrey Palmer.
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July 31, 2017 8:03am
- waikatogirl
  
  Bolger is also one of the old buzzard PM’s in on wanting 500 new refugees.
  These former PM’s had their chance when they were in the big chair.
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:08am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  These oldies can each keep 125 refugees in their own house.
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:14am
- softail 1450
  
  am I the only one who can see Helen Clark slowly slipping back into our lives ?she just can’t help herself, she isn’t comfortable unless she’s pushing her agenda onto someone .
  maybe she will replace Andrew.
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:19am
  - Chris R
    
    She caused the predicament Labour is in today by being the control freak she is. Anyone in her caucus who exhibited independent thought and ambition which deviated from her iron cast thinking was frowned upon and punished. Since she left Labour has been led by an array of softies without drive and perception. I am not yearning for the return of Clark though….ever!
    
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    July 31, 2017 8:26am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Rumour has it she hosted the whole Labour caucus in Bellamy’s one night. The waiter came to her first, and she ordered eye fillet, medium rare. When the waiter said “And the vegetables?” she replied “They’ll have what I’m having.”
      
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      July 31, 2017 8:29am
      - Dafixeruppa
        
        LOL, even the labour supporters at my work chuckled at this one. (all 1 of them that are left anyway)
        
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        July 31, 2017 9:19am
      - Gabby
        
        Old Thatcher joke. Get new material smuggy.
        
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        July 31, 2017 9:33am
      - GazzaW
        
        As the current resident lefty troll Gobby you need to do far better on the primary school level one-liners to come anywhere near the level of ztev or even stephieboy.
        
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        July 31, 2017 10:45am
      - Gabby
        
        Sorry Guzzla, Thatcher was PM of the UK back in the 1980s. Can’t blame smuggy for assuming you wouldn’t know that.
        
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        July 31, 2017 7:37pm
  - PhilBest
    
    That is a recurring nightmare of mine. Since John Key National pretty much endorsed her program for NZ for the last 9 years, the public could well be open-minded about having the iconic, nation-defining elder statesperson back again. National’s politics of expedience could come back to bite them. In fact if Helen remained more firm on the Iwi mafia than unscrupulous National, she would be the lesser evil.
    
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    July 31, 2017 8:26am
    - niggly
      
      The public tired of her last time (don’t forget she nearly lost the 2005 election if it wasn’t for her last minute bribes), even the once-timid MSM had the “courage” to turn against her and openly mocked her in 2008. Plus most of her old-guard supporting MP’s have retired (or were voted out).
      
      I don’t think NZ has anything to fear, apart from some of the Labour Party MP’s themselves!
      
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      July 31, 2017 8:36am
- holysheet
  
  What happened to the housing crisis?
  Add another 500 to this number will only make things worse, or have we been told another lie?
  What housing crisis?
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:23am
- holysheet
  
  At least the real Dame has the sense to keep out of this refugee crap. Shipley must be busy doing more important stuff for the country.
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:01am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Pfft
    Like driving companies into the ground?
    
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    July 31, 2017 2:41pm
Inandout

Four former Prime Ministers want NZ to bring in another 500 potential terrorists. I suggest the following accommodate families as such:

Helen Clark – make available two of your rentals.
Jim Bolger – Use one of your farm cottages.
G Palmer – Let a refugee family use your Horowhenua weekend farmlet.
Mike Moore – pay for an extra motel room from your WTO salary.

Instead of getting a Yank import woman to push your agenda, show some true ‘compassion’.
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July 31, 2017 8:10am
- kowtow
  
  There’s a left wing conspiracy ,aided and abetted by the media ,to push an agenda of mass poverty in New Zealand. Child poverty , income inequality, housing shortage, hospital queues, drugs epidemic, unemployment, etc
  
  and yet on top of all that poverty mayhem the same poverty mongers want to add to the burden by bringing in even more people to make the queues longer and situation worse.
  
  Surely if all these problems are so pressing then sort out our problems first before inviting even more of the third world here.
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:15am
  - PhilBest
    
    One of the observable facts about contemporary fads in urban planning, is that the cities that are “vibrant superstar cities” worth emulating, like London, New York, San Francisco and Vancouver, are marked by mass migrants willingly overcrowding in grossly overpriced shite accommodation, because that is what they are used to, while the locally-born bail out to the lower-cost cities, and responsible ones remain childless because they can’t afford a home decent enough by their standards, in which to bring up kids.
    
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    July 31, 2017 8:32am
    - GazzaW
      
      Having read glowing reports on Vancouver I was astounded by the sheer volume of beggars on the streets during a recent visit. All is not as it is portrayed in Canada or the State of BC.
      
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      July 31, 2017 10:54am
      - kowtow
        
        Bit like here in Aotearoa formerly New Zealand.
        
        The media etc give glowing accounts of how indigenous culture is so important , how rich and diverse it is ,blah blah .The airport decor for example is like a monument to the natives …….
        
        ……and yet the reality is there to be seen in the streets and negative statistics.
        
        Summed up in your word “portrayal”. It’s all lies , by the political class , the media , the state machine. Paid for by the long suffering taxpayer , who when he has the temerity to question the lies and bullshit is labelled a racist.
        
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        July 31, 2017 11:33am
      - PhilBest
        
        Spot on, Gazza. I have a cousin who loves travelling and has acute powers of observation, and I really enjoy talking to him after each trip. I don’t travel, but I read a lot, and what he sees fits with what I understand to be going on, contra to what the utopian activists and bureaucrats feed us. Also, Wendell Cox of Demographia has a little sideline advisory business called “Rental Car Tours”, where he provides a trip route and itinerary by which you will get to see “the other side” of superstar urban utopias.
        
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        July 31, 2017 2:53pm
- Southern Raider
  
  I want to see the stats of where the latest round of refugees come from by country and religion
  
  I happy happy for Christians and Yazidi from Syria and Iraq but fuck off to Hezbollah supporters and plane bombers
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:25am
  - Jack5
    
    Here’s evidence of the discrimination against Middle East Christians getting into the refugee system. The author is a veteran NZ Catholic journalist, Pat McCarthy, who is familiar with the Middle East:
    
    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/column/iraqs-christian-refugees-face-double-discrimination-3748/
    
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    July 31, 2017 1:46pm
kowtow

Our media have an obsessive insecurity complex when it comes to matters Australian…….

…….strange how the plane bomb plot arrests rate so low today……..

……..could it be because the accused are not really Australians but “others” and as such like the Aborigines are deemed by the media to be sacred?
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July 31, 2017 8:11am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  They have been named in the SMH, and linked to their Redfern Mosque.
  http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/airport-security-intensified-following-sydney-raid-on-islamistinspired-terror-cell-20170730-gxlpd6.html
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:28am
  - PhilBest
    
    Quick, shut down the “right-wing extremist hate groups” before someone attacks the mosque! Ban Andrew Bolt and Jacquie Lambie from Twitter and Facebook!
    
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    July 31, 2017 8:35am
  - kowtow
    
    Linked to a mosque?
    
    Impossible ,as Islam is a religion of peace.
    
    Or so we keep being told.
    
    And who is telling us that lie and why?
    
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    July 31, 2017 8:53am
Happychappy

I wonder whether people that don’t want the Greens anywhere near our Treasury Benches are prepared to take a risk and trust Winston First with their vote.It is also right to suggest they won’t get his vote but there is always a first time and to trust the past that Winston Won’t is like playing Russian roulette with real bullets because it will kill our economy with the policy that Winston wants and the money they will have to outlay to keep the Greens happy. Two Ticks Blue for me.
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July 31, 2017 8:17am
- Gabby
  
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  Two Licks Poo.
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:38am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @Gabby
    You don’t have to suffer alone each day licking poos…
    ask your GP for a faecal transplant
    https://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/news/2016/october-2016/25/poo-transplants-and-probiotics-%E2%80%93-does-anything-work-to-improve-gut-health.aspx
    
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    July 31, 2017 9:56am
  - Gruffydd
    
    One lick piss(yellow) one lick poo Gabby.
    
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    July 31, 2017 10:15am
  - sooty
    
    Gabby licks poo two!
    
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    July 31, 2017 1:43pm
    - Gabby
      
      Sooky’s spew thick stew.
      
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      July 31, 2017 8:33pm
oldpark

Talk about the dance of the desperate. Wellington’s Dominion Post newspaper. Yes the anti National Government pack of installed reporters who daily put the boot into the very succesful National Government. Case in point are two sickos called Jane Bowron,and a real bludger called Dave Armstrong,who make it their main mission to denigrate the present Government. Seems the main purchasers,National supporters of that daily newspaper,have had enough with the poison and daily character attacks on them ,by most rat bags in that Lie-bour/Green propaganda outlet. The National readers have stopped buying the newspaper.Dom-Post solution ,put the price up,by almost ten percent,screw the remaining readers,and turn a blind eye, to the readers who still support them . Thanks to the waste of space to the soon to be redundant reporting pests,already mentioned,it is just a matter of time before there will be no Doom-Post,hope so, sooner than later.
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July 31, 2017 8:18am
- Inandout
  
  Yes it is ironic that the socialist editorial staff would rather see the newspaper go under, than accommodate their once loyal conservative subscribers.
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:23am
  - PhilBest
    
    And National has already become Helen Lite long since and bent over backwards to appease the PC media talking heads.
    
    National has no idea about political war. The Left will only ever ratchet up their demands, and if you are not prepared to stand and make an argument on anything, then the slippery slope principle means that we will arrive at things ordinary people regard as unthinkable, far quicker than anyone would have thought possible.
    
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    July 31, 2017 8:39am
- Tarquin North
  
  Up here we call that “Doing a Herald”. And for the terminally stupid, we have the Northern Advocate which is yesterdays Herald with a different wrapper.
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:25am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Our equivalent in New Zealand’s oldest daily newspaper, the Wanganui Chronicle. Apart from the front page, death notices and sports coverage, I doubt it’d be any different to the Advocate most days.
    
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    July 31, 2017 8:38am
    - VicParking
      
      Don’t be to harsh. It covers the local cat club, roller derby (a good thing) and of course how the Arts are being revived with Ratepayer transfusions. No criticism of the council is allowed on threat of withdrawing advertising. Other than that the Chronicle is a mini me of the failing newspaper.
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:01am
      - sooty
        
        The Nelson paper is kaput, no more. Last print yesterday. Which one is next. All of those lovely journalist out of a job.
        
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        July 31, 2017 10:56am
- mandk
  
  The only thing worth reading in the Dominion Post is the 5 minute quiz.
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:45am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Yes, but how well do you do in answering it !
    
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    July 31, 2017 9:06am
    - mandk
      
      Not bad.
      I have a brain like a sponge, so quizzes are probably the thing I am best at.
      Pub quizzes are better, though. I find that several pints of beer stimulates the memory 🙂
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:33am
      - holysheet
        
        Now if you tried a toke, you could be as sharp as Griff.
        
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        July 31, 2017 9:38am
      - Gabby
        
        You got that scrapie? Tough break.
        
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        July 31, 2017 9:42am
      - Kimbo
        
        @ mandk
        
        Don’t sign anything until the agent from Kimbo’s kick-ass Pub Quiz team puts a contract in front of you! 😉
        
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        July 31, 2017 10:46am
    - adamsmith1922
      
      I average 7 most days
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:46am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  The dance of the desperate as defined by Katie Bradford.
  
  Toxic red radio 6.00am summary of news talks about the little one potentially standing aside with National remaining steady in the polls in spite of the Todd Barclay affair.
  
  Radio live approaching 6.30 with our Paddy talking about how the Wellington fairy, toothy or the duck would fare against Bill English in a leader’s debate; Paddy thinks they are all up to it. Paddy gets another dig at National with another mention of Todd Barclay.
  
  Strangely, no mention of the unpaid interns anywhere by anyone.
  
  Another article talking about how party’s are running short of campaign funds with the assertion that National had sent out emails asking for $3.00 donations.
  
  This is the labour level of funding in spite of Kurton saying their average donation being something like $35.00.
  
  Has anyone here seen this email from National looking for $3.00 donations and can share the email? I would be interested in seeing that.
  
  And, Winnie the member for the Green Parrot saying that they are the underdogs and have not got donors with deep pockets like the other party’s. If the man had no shat on Owen Glenn’s best loafers, he might not be scrabbling around for the $3.00 donations.
  
  8.25: Todd Barclay mentioned again by Jane Patterson on Rabid Red.
  
  8.27: Todd Barclay mentioned by Fergusson in interview with Bill English discussing the demise of the little one. Sigh
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:48am
  - dime
    
    Todd Barclay… mate, i follow politics and im on here almost every day. i still barely know what he did and couldnt give the slightest of fucks.
    
    apply the “what if the gweens did it” test and i still wouldnt care.
    
    slave labour is barelyover the beltway issue threshold.
    
    green fraud – thats the big one imho.
    
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    July 31, 2017 8:54am
    - PhilBest
      
      Lotta ordinary folk would sympathise with Todd Barclay in his “malfeasance”, lot more than what sympathise with Watermelon Metiria in hers.
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:42am
    - Gabby
      
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      dim’s gettin dimmer.
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:46am
  - kowtow
    
    Toxic red radio.
    
    I had the pleasure of hearing Espiner introduce himself in a very long sentence in maori , what the fuck is that tokenism about?
    
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    July 31, 2017 8:56am
    - VicParking
      
      As only 15% of maori and 3% of others speak Maori why arn’t we provided with a translation of all this speak. They do in Parliament. For all I know he is calling us dick heads for listerning to his left wing rubbish.
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:06am
      - RalphT
        
        Well, anyone who listens to his drivel IS a dickhead.
        
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        July 31, 2017 9:21am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      That is why I really look forward to the $35m spend on maori language that culminates in maori language week when Gobby has to say his whole ‘good morning, I hate all you white mofo’s’ in the English language, the majority language that the vasssssssssssst majority of this country understand and speak.
      
      I sign (language) the finger to Gobby every morning as he breaks into the morning maori mumble
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:09am
    - sam green
      
      Fossil.
      
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      August 1, 2017 1:12am
  - Gabby
    
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    No puller the way to spin it is the nats are so flush they only want wee donations so people can feel included in their great enterprise.
    
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    July 31, 2017 9:45am
  - wiseowl
    
    I have had three emails seeking donations.I think the last one was for $3 but it was deleted.
    
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    July 31, 2017 12:41pm
- PhilBest
  
  It is unusual for anyone in the media to be talking like Bowron is, about immigration. If you are against immigration, you are a “racist”, aren’t you?
  
  She is right, and it is irrelevant which political party is doing it – a high level of immigration at the same time as a house price bubble and an infrastructure deficit, is disgracefully incompetent government.
  
  For the record, I am in favour of immigration of needed, quickly-assimilable people; and exploiting the “global availability of capital” to fund infrastructure for growth – what we have instead, is the “global availability of capital” pumping flat out into zero-sum house price inflation. The rapid-growth yet affordable housing cities of the USA that Hugh tells us about, have got this “available capital” and “funding of infrastructure for growth” thing exactly right. They will be winners in the long term from this common sense.
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:53am
- KevOB
  
  The Dom Post is owned by Fairfax. That’s not fair facts. Superficially Aussie controlled. Ambassadors for globalisation not NZ interests.
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:04am
  - PhilBest
    
    That is why it is so surprising for one of their op-ed writers to be allowed to step out of line and publish an appeal for less immigration.
    
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    July 31, 2017 9:44am
Maggy Wassilieff

Little’s appalling RNZ interview
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/336141/you-don-t-get-to-form-a-govt-at-24-percent-little
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July 31, 2017 8:22am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Thanks for the link Maggy 😀
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:35am
- Swifty
  
  Thanks Maggie.
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:38am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    First time I have seen a down tick for someone saying thanks; we have some serious sad fucks trolling this place.
    
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    July 31, 2017 8:50am
    - Swifty
      
      Very sad indeed.
      
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      July 31, 2017 8:52am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Careful, there are those around who see someone irritated about downticks….and therefore make a point of adding one. Remember the tagline – “…fomenting happy mischief….”
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:09am
    - PhilBest
      
      I recall a theory being floated in the past, about a “serial downticker” lurking on this site. Very few comments seem to escape, regardless of how innocuous.
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:46am
    - peterwn
      
      Over at Whaleoil they have disabled downticks. Also trolls get very short shift from Pete Belt or the other moderators. And they get even shorter shift on ‘The Standard”.
      
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      July 31, 2017 10:18am
      - Gruffydd
        
        Over at Whaleoil they have disabled ~~downticks~~ disagreement. Also ~~trolls~~ dissenting voices get very short shift from Pete Belt or the other moderators
        
        I looked at whale few days ago
        GD was 90% full of the weather
        One hundred odd comments discussing a frosty morning is inane on a politic blog.
        
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        July 31, 2017 10:54am
      - rangitoto
        
        To be fair I think it was Disqus that disabled downticks. A lot of sites use Disqus and they all lost the downtick option at the same time.
        
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        July 31, 2017 1:50pm
      - Pharmachick
        
        Pete Belt has disabled most of their commentators (and incidentally, commentary).
        
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        July 31, 2017 2:18pm
      - PhilBest
        
        I don’t understand why people say they have problems with WOBH moderation and “bans”. What I have found, is that they have a lot of built-in automatic spam protection and moderation, necessary because they have been very intensely targeted by lefty online hijackers. If you experience a problem, and you use the contact function to let Pete know, it gets fixed.
        
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        July 31, 2017 3:01pm
- Swifty
  
  Wow – check out Angry’s body language!
  
  He wasn’t enjoying that, at all….. 🙂
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:51am
- KevOB
  
  That presents as an interview with a #2 not a leader. Trouble is, where is a Labour Leader? Potential has been retired.
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:09am
- Swifty
  
  My apologies Maggy – just realised my typo.
  
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  July 31, 2017 1:40pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    No worries….. it was once Maggie… but then the hubby misspelt it as Maggy when he carved/chiseled it on his wedding ring.
    
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    July 31, 2017 7:24pm
kowtow

Iraqi shoots up night club in Germany . Relax , it was a personal feud . Keep the illegals coming! Welcome.

“A gunman opened fire at a packed nightclub in southern Germany early Sunday, killing one and wounding four before being shot by police, authorities said, in an attack likely motivated by a personal feud.”

This follows the Palestinian carving up folk in a Hamburg supermarket.

Some people call it the diversity dividend. I call it national suicide at the hands of an out of touch political elite, like our 4 former PMs. All rich ,well connected and proving to the international community what marvelous people they are.

https://www.thelocal.de/20170730/two-killed-four-wounded-in-german-disco-shooting-police
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July 31, 2017 8:26am
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News from around the world:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4744270/Columnist-anti-Semitism-row-not-write-Sunday-Times.html

Sunday Times Ireland columnist Kevin Myers will not write again for the paper, a spokesman said.

The newspaper said it abhorred anti-Semitism after Mr Myers noted that two of the best-paid female presenters at the BBC, Claudia Winkleman and Vanessa Feltz, were Jewish in an article on the corporation’s gender pay gap.

Sunday Times editor Martin Ivens has apologised personally to the two women for these ‘unacceptable comments both to Jewish people and to women in the workplace’.

A spokesperson said: ‘We can confirm that Kevin Myers will not write again for The Sunday Times Ireland. A printed apology will appear in next week’s paper.’

Incredible isn’t it – just amazing, pointing out ANYTHING, even slightly negative about Jews is “antisemitic” and can cause you to lose your job.

This of course has occurred against a backdrop of the global MSM shouting from the rooftops that the BBC has a “White Male” problem as they earn too much and that there’s too many of them. This appears to be fine, but question who’s truly overpaid and represented, you’re publicly shamed, threatened, career over and if the media organisation you noticed had a distinct over-representation of one ethnic group was CNN, they will threaten to publicly reveal your name for retweeting such observations.
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July 31, 2017 8:29am
- dime
  
  ffs more of the jew stuff?
  
  Dime likes to think he is pretty open minded and will read a lot of things.. but goddam, every fucking day!
  
  did a jewish guy/s fuck your wife or something?
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:56am
  - Huevon
    
    Yeah. I don’t get it either. I’m not on board with the Devoyist antiWhite self-loathing, but I really don’t understand the issue with Jews. I was good mates with a Jewish guy when I lived in [redacted] and he certainly loved making money, but why hold that against him. The antisemitism just seems like a mad conspiracy to me.
    
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    July 31, 2017 9:11am
    - EAD_TWO
      
      @ Huevon,
      
      go read the Talmud or Alexander Solzheitsyn’s book “200 Years Together” about life in Bolshevik Russia” then get back to me.
      
      To use your analogy don’t get all the anti-Islam stuff on here as I have several Iranian friends who are great blokes. That doesn’t and shouldn’t stop me criticising the actions of a small minority though should it?
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:27am
      - Pharmachick
        
        Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wasn’t just anti-Jewry, he was a complete misanthropist. Which, to be fair; is probably how most people that were thrown in a Russian Gulag for several years would feel.
        
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        July 31, 2017 2:23pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    haha Dime,
    
    I have changed tack recently and pretty much limit my discussion to current events rather than historical ones like Bolshevism and Marxism. This story is a big story over in the UK right now and it deserves some critical analysis. Do you think the double standards on display here doesn’t even warrant a discussion? I try and raise these observations with an open mind and all I get is attacked even by the (selective) free speech warriors.
    
    We’ve been inundated with propaganda about “White Males” being overpaid but now we have people losing their livelihoods for being brave enough to make one innocuous factual observation. This is a totalitarian nightmare and all the people who acquiesce in silence are guilty for allowing this state of affairs to perpetuate.
    
    Perhaps I’m just more aware of what is going on and less afraid than many on here in that I speak freely and openly. For those that know me, I’m not one to shy away from a robust discussion for fear of treading on the 3rd rail of politics.
    
    I certainly did not set out to be this way, but the more and more aware of the world as I matured, the I travelled the world and gained wisdom, I noticed the massive disconnect between reality and the artificial reality that is fed to us. I will not lie in that I was very troubled by what I was finding out. I lost a lot of sleep over it, wrestling with my conscience and contemplating what all these mega-trends would mean (see article below)
    
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/30/malloch-europa-eurabia-last-man/
    
    It was difficult – and ever more difficult to push through one barrier after another. I started off with Islam, then “got” the race issue, then circumnavigated abound paleoconservatism, libertarianism, counterjihadi’ism, looking for some kind of ideology or place – as none of them really fitted.
    
    I had to come to terms with things in my own history, deal with the issues of fighting the wrong side in WWII, the level of propaganda surrounding us all, all the time. I had to then deal with the Jewish issue – and boy was I stubborn about swallowing that pill!
    
    It has been a right chore, a ball-ache, difficult. I have been somewhat ostracised, faced threats, spent far too much time thinking and investigating it all.
    
    I think it takes some dedication, critical thinking skills, integrity, etc, to wrestle with these things and “come out” as a race-realist, a nationalist, national socialist, standing up against Jewry, “modernism” and all the sacred cows of “free speech/counter-jihad” types and SJWs.
    
    The former group, who are “dime a dozen” on GD (see what I did there) despite thinking they are free, are cowards. They are drones and slaves. They are one-step removed, or rather, a new breed of SJW liberal, clasping to the bosom of the same staple diets, same tired positions, same basis points.
    
    It is a return to some ‘classic liberalism’, like Milo, trying to be “edgy” whilst letting everything continue onwards. We hear a lot about “fake news”, but the right wing “free speechers/counter-jihadis” are “fake revolutionaries”. Like a Russian doll, they take off one layer and another Russian doll emerges from within.
    
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    July 31, 2017 9:17am
    - dime
      
      dude, i have no idea what youre talking about.
      
      youmay have to bullet point it or something.
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:45am
      - Gruffydd
        
        Here dime you only need one word .
        NAZI.
        
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        July 31, 2017 9:52am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Dime,
        
        someone just needs to answer the question I posed which is the central issue – Why is noticing things about Jewish over representation a career ending move, whereas with White Males its a positively career enhancing one?
        
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        July 31, 2017 9:57am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Dime,
        
        do you find it interesting that I have asked a very pointed question Three Times and everyone has avoided addressing it like the plague?
        
        * “the global MSM shouting from the rooftops that the BBC has a “White Male” problem as they earn too much and that there’s too many of them. This appears to be fine, but question who’s truly overpaid and represented, you’re publicly shamed, threatened, career over”
        
        * “Do you think the double standards on display here doesn’t even warrant a discussion? I try and raise these observations with an open mind and all I get is attacked even by the (selective) free speech warriors. We’ve been inundated with propaganda about “White Males” being overpaid but now we have people losing their livelihoods for being brave enough to make one innocuous factual observation.
        
        * “Why is noticing things about Jewish over representation a career ending move, whereas with White Males its a positively career enhancing one?”
        
        You’re a smart guy, and I’m guessing you’ve probably read The Crucible or at least have heard of the Salem witch Trials. The hysterics on this thread remind me of Massachusetts 1692 whereby the mere mentioning of one word will trigger people to lose their mind.
        
        Reason has gone out the window and has been replaced by misty-eyed incoherent rage. It is extraordinary to behold.
        
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        July 31, 2017 8:18pm
    - PhilBest
      
      Any “global conspiracy” that exists is not synonymous with Jewry, any more than rocket science is synonymous with Jewry just because there are a lot of Jews in it. There are a lot of Jews in many fields of high intellectual endeavour, including on both sides of controversies. Chomsky is a Jew. The main author of “The Anti-Chomsky Reader” is also a Jew. Some of the most effective critics of “the globohomo conspiracy” are Jews. There are Jews on both HuffPo and Breitbart.
      
      I am disappointed to see your usefulness as a culture warrior being spoiled like it is by the Jew derangement syndrome.
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:55am
      - Kimbo
        
        I’d suggest that, as obnoxious as his “views” (I’m being kind) are, in one way EAD is in step with the not-so-distant past. Before the Holocaust, it was standard right-wing let’s-preserve-Western-Civilisation “culture warrior” thought and rhetoric that Jews were aliens, outsiders, and a threat-within (you know, poor and diseased Eastern Europeans clogging up the slums of London and New York)
        
        …and there was indeed a plan by International Jewry to corrupt us from within with their crooked finance, proclivity to be where trouble and war and revolution was being fomented and unwillingness to assimilate with Gentiles (any of this starting to sound familiar compared to another group today?).
        
        So, a question: does that cause the modern self-appointed “watchmen” to pause and think, as they rail against lib-progs, alleged “mass Muslim migration (in NZ?!), “Vichy” ( 😉 ) traitors, whoever
        
        …maybe, just maybe we’ve lost perspective and exaggerated the threat?
        
        You are a good guy, Philbest, and keep on posting, please, especially the stuff about urban development.
        
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        July 31, 2017 10:59am
      - Jack5
        
        Kimbo, you seem to be suggesting that those opposed to the Muslim ~~migration to~~ gatecrashing into the West are similar to anti-Semitic right wingers of the 1930s.
        
        Muslims and NZ multiculturists make the same suggestion.
        
        Sadly, Kimbo, you are in danger of aligning yourself with those who would shut down discussion of Muslim incursion into the West. Some in NZ, including the police, have raised the possibility of “hate speech” controls of what we can say, write, or publish.
        
        Muslims aren’t anywhere near in the same position as Jews were in the 1930s. In fact, Muslims have driven nearly all Jews out of every Muslim country in North Africa and the Middle East (Israel excepted, of course).
        
        Muslim and Leftist influence within the U.N. refugee organisations, and Muslim officialdom are discriminating against Christian and other non-Muslim refugees in the Middle East. Why isn’t NZ taking these people in its quota?
        
        Western media are far more ready to attack, and attack enthusiastically, Christianity than to criticise Islam. Prominent atheist Richard Dawkins noted this (link below).
        
        Our mainstream media sometimes appear anti-Christian rather than agnostic. At the same time, some help propagate the myth of Islamic terrorism being separate from the religion, usually subtly such as by reporting ISIL as “so-called Islamic State”.
        
        Dawkins on criticism of Islam compared with criticism of Christianity:
        
        https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/noted-atheist-finds-out-that-its-ok-to-mock-christianity-but-not-islam
        
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        July 31, 2017 2:25pm
      - Shawn Herles
        
        “Kimbo, you seem to be suggesting that those opposed to the Muslim migration to gatecrashing into the West are similar to anti-Semitic right wingers of the 1930s.”
        
        Yes he is. It’s a dishonest, gutter level tactic, but as the facts pile up, thousands of sexual assaults, violent assaults, Sharia street patrols in Sweden, Britain and Germany, terrorist attacks, and capitulation to Muslim demands by liberal governments, Kimbo is getting desperate. He tried claiming that Muslims are just victims of bigotry like the Irish once were, but that didn’t work, so now he’s trying, in a thinly veiled manner. to associate anyone with concerns about the issue with Nazi’s and Jew haters.
        
        He has crawled into the gutter with stephieboy.
        
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        July 31, 2017 2:40pm
      - PhilBest
        
        Thanks, Kimbo. Two points. “Finance” moguls and rent-seekers per se are a problem; again, this is not synonymous with Jewry even though there are a lot of Jews in that sector. Gold-standardistas are probably the main opponents to the “monetary” ploy, and many of them are also Jews!
        
        Second point. I don’t think I have railed against mass immigration of Muslims into NZ, but as a broad subject (especially in Europe), I think you are the one who is seriously mistaken if you regard concern about this to be just a throwback to past bigotry and suspicion of all “others” (including Jews).
        
        I am pro immigration overall and I celebrate the “obvious success” examples of the waves of Dutch, Dalmations, Asians etc who are strong parts of our social fabric today. The Polynesians are not so noted for economic success but they are good to have around in many ways.
        
        But the Muslim migratory wave, to a great extent invited by western cringe and cultural self-abnegation, is something else altogether. You have to be either a dupe or a deliberate traitor, to be an apologist for it. The left is creaming itself over it, they have never had such a useful WMD against western civ before, which is why they are so happy to throw women and gays under the SJW bus when it comes to their concerns about exponentially greater illiberal attitudes than anything western white men have been guilty of for generations.
        
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        July 31, 2017 3:13pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Jack5
        
        Kimbo, you seem to be suggesting that those opposed to the Muslim ~~migration to~~ gatecrashing into the West are similar to anti-Semitic right wingers of the 1930s.
        
        Muslims and NZ multiculturists make the same suggestion.
        
        Now whose arguing guilt by association?! 😉
        
        I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again – opposition to increased migration is not racism as such (although it can attract racists, but no, I don’t think you or Philbest fall into that category). If people try to shut you down as a racist, tell ’em to get stuffed.
        
        However, and I’ll say it yet again, those convinced that ~~the West~~ New Zealand is on the precipice due to non-existent mass Muslim migration would do well to take a breath, and consult their history books. Whether it was Britain and her “white” Empire, the USA, and Germany, even prior to the Nazis (who were a form of virulent Prussian militarism on speed)
        
        …anti-Semitism and belief in non-existent International Jewish conspiracy and boogey men “out there” was a standard feature of White Anglo-Saxon – and French (the Dreyfus Affair) politics. So 100 years later we have replaced Jews with…Muslims. maybe, just maybe (and I’m just asking the question for consideration among the “cultural conservatives here)
        
        …you’ve lost perspective.
        
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        July 31, 2017 4:07pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ PhilBest
        
        Second point. I don’t think I have railed against mass immigration of Muslims into NZ,
        
        No, and I didn’t direct that against you in the first instance, hence my deliberate wording was generic and plural (with emphasis), “So, a question: does that cause the modern self-appointed “watchmen” to pause and think, as they rail
        
        but as a broad subject (especially in Europe), I think you are the one who is seriously mistaken if you regard concern about this to be just a throwback to past bigotry and suspicion of all “others” (including Jews).
        
        Hmm. Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer pick. Not sure you’ve adequately understood or appreciated what opposition to Jewish – and Irish Catholic – migration from the 1850s looked like. Irrespective of whether you are right or wrong about the threat posed by Muslims – and I do acknowledge they present a statistically increased security risk, as well as an assimilation challenge, just as it is clear you are no anti-Semite – the rhetoric and arguments some 100 years later are…~~very similar~~ identical. So as I responded to Jack5 above, maybe, just maybe (and I’m just asking the question for consideration among the “cultural conservatives here)
        
        …you’ve lost perspective. But, as always, a pleasure to discuss the matter sensibly with gentlemen such as yourselves. Can’t say that about everyone here in the Muslim migration debate! 😉
        
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        July 31, 2017 4:15pm
      - Shawn Herles
        
        Kimbo claims:
        
        “However, and I’ll say it yet again, those convinced that the West New Zealand is on the precipice due to non-existent mass Muslim migration ”
        
        The issue we have raised is Europe, and on that score there HAS been Muslim mass migration. That is a fact. Our concerns regarding NZ are that we don’t make the same mistake.
        
        So this claim is both a straight out lie about we are saying, and a denial of the facts concerning Europe. There has been mass Islamic migration to Europe. Only a moron looking for a brain cell to mate with, or a liar, would claim otherwise.
        
        “anti-Semitism and belief in non-existent International Jewish conspiracy …” blah blah blah, just have the guts to say “you’re all a bunch of Nazis” because despite your laughable attempts to claim that’s not what you’re saying, that IS what you are saying. The only difference between your response and stephieboy’s is that you don’t have the courage to speak plainly and honestly. Your tactic is guilt by association, and you know it.
        
        Meanwhile, in the real world:
        
        “News that Australian police have foiled a plot to bomb an aeroplane brings the threat of a major terrorist attack very close to home.
        
        Arrests were made in Sydney over the weekend. Police allege a group of men there were planning to use an improvised device to target the aviation industry.
        
        In aviation terms, Sydney is immediately adjacent to our own skies. Outside of our own national airspace, it is one of the obvious next ports of call. Had the plot succeeded, it is likely that New Zealanders would have been among the victims.
        
        Two innocent people and lone-wolf attacker Man Haron Monis died in the 17-hour Lindt Cafe siege in Sydney in December 2014.
        
        Among other politically-motivated attacks, a radicalised Melbourne teen, Numan Haider, was shot dead after he stabbed two police officers the same year.
        
        Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, just 15 years old, killed a civilian employee outside the New South Wales police headquarters in 2015. Ihsas Khan, 22, stabbed and wounded a man walking his dog in south-west Sydney in 2016.
        
        About a dozen other planned attacks have been foiled across the Tasman in the last three years. Twenty-three people in Australia have been convicted of terrorism offences in the last 12 months, according to the Australian National Security agency.”
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/95258249/editorial-as-terrorism-creeps-closer-new-zealand-needs-to-be-vigilent
        
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        July 31, 2017 4:18pm
      - Shawn Herles
        
        More real world facts for Kimbo:
        
        “Germans now the MINORITY in Frankfurt: More than half of residents in the city have a migrant background, official figures show”
        
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4652002/Native-Germans-minority-Germany.html
        
        Hamtramck, Michigan, the US’s first majority Muslim town:
        
        “Muslims now outnumber non-Muslims, the council has a Muslim majority and the call to prayer echoes through the streets five times a day.”
        
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3336823/Inside-Hamtramck-America-s-Muslim-majority-city-call-prayer-echoes-streets-Syrian-refugees-welcomed-defiance-governor.html
        
        Kimbo’s response: “Nothing to see here, it’s not true, and you’re on the same page as the Nazis if you think otherwise.”
        
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        July 31, 2017 4:43pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        For phil and the rest of the culture “worriers” the hard left is easier to see than the middle ground.
        http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
        
        There is no golden past for the far right Conservatives to cling to.
        
        Down the mine at 12 for 12 hour days with half a day on Saturday until 65 was my grandfathers lot.
        
        Buggery in the barn yard and sodomy in the belfry was still happening. Man did not invent Sin all of a sudden in 1963.
        
        Their allegiance to an unreal past results in Don Quixote attacks in the present.
        
        The frenetic hyperventilating about the others is disturbing.
        
        Especially as we already have lefty’s, libtards, marxists, greens, Jews, Muslims Globohomos and science being rejected by the different purveyors of far right conservatism on here.
        
        Who is going to be left after they purge society of all the undesirables ?
        
        Often they make good points though the rhetoric
        I seldom up tick as I don’t subscribe to the nonsense.
        
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        July 31, 2017 4:59pm
kowtow

Diversity celebrated?

The girls all look the same dressed in medieval garb, oppressed by a stone age ideology.

Celebrate inequality ? Is this New Zealand which used to pride itself on equality or is it a craven surrender to cultural marxism?

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/diversity-celebrated
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July 31, 2017 8:32am
cmm

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/95265126

Even flip-flopping on resigning…
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July 31, 2017 8:38am
sooty

Stuff says that Little is keeping his job because it would cost too much to change billboards and advertising. Labours up shit creek without a paddle now! Angry offered to stand down, but no one wanted the job. I’m sure they could have got someone from the ladys kntting club to help out till election night. It would not make any differance to the amount off votes they get.
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July 31, 2017 8:47am
- Swifty
  
  Nobody wants to try to catch the falling knife…
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:53am
  - VicParking
    
    Fry up the dead snapper
    
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    July 31, 2017 9:09am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Little only had for Labour MP’s support him as their first preference when he won the leadership, and we all know he’s only there because the unions had the tie-breaker.
  
  Even though he promised he would never stand for the leadership again when beaten by Little and the unions in 2014, you can bet that Grant Robertson will be sitting quietly and biding his time, waiting for his appointment with destiny as Gracinda sweeps to power.
  
  https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/grant-robertson-bows-out-of-labour-leadership-contest-for-good-6134932
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:57am
redeye

The latest poll has surely put paid to the Winston for PM nonsense? National Party negotiators, if they have any balls, will offer him a couple of associate positions and promise to push through some of his RMA reforms in return for confidence and supply or, he could choose to become the third placed party in a socialist block and his legacy will become an even greater laughing stock.
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July 31, 2017 8:54am
- dime
  
  “National Party negotiators, if they have any balls”
  
  fuck, i wish someone in the national party had some balls!
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:56am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Are you saying Judith Collins is a eunuch dime?
    
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    July 31, 2017 8:58am
    - dime
      
      may as well be. when was the last time you heard anything from her?
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:03am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Judith is biding her time. ?
        
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        July 31, 2017 9:07am
      - Gruffydd
        
        I expect some time after the election English will be rolled .
        
        Key bailed far enough out that his resignation would not be an issue in the election. Key signaled very early on that he did not see politics as his life’s work.
        
        English is a care taker .
        
        Those who eye the leadership know not rocking the boat right now is to their and the party’s benefit .
        After the election its caged knife fighting in the back room.
        
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        July 31, 2017 9:13am
    - VicParking
      
      Judith has all their balls in her handbag
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:11am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        I thought she wore them as ear-rings as a visual reminder
        
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        July 31, 2017 9:17am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Morning Judith. Most of us love you. ?
        
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        July 31, 2017 9:38am
  - PhilBest
    
    Redeye is right on RMA reforms and the need for balls in National, and Dime is right too. Glad to see that the KB mob who go into downtick mode when some of us criticise National for lack of balls on stuff like this – RMA reform and pandering to the Iwi mafia – have left Dime and Redeye alone. You know its true, really, don’t you.
    
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    July 31, 2017 9:59am
    - Dafixeruppa
      
      Nah, we just like Dime, he always gives us a cent’s worth and redeye, well he’s always up early…
      
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      July 31, 2017 10:09am
      - kowtow
        
        Ten cents worth.
        
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        July 31, 2017 11:07am
      - Dafixeruppa
        
        Lol yes, I was thinking of penny.
        
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        July 31, 2017 12:27pm
- Gruffydd
  
  The green Hags corruption means even whinny can not support her. National or the reds in the greens.
  He has no negotiating base to work from.
  
  Those who think he has the leverage to make significant changes in nationals direction are sadly mistaken
  At most NZF will have 2% or so of seats needed for National to retain the government bench.
  NZF will have about the same influence on nationals policy.
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:06am
sooty

If Angry should chuck his job, where would he be on the list. I think he would have to resign as he would be that far down the list, he would have no show. But then, how does he pay for his up coming court case. Declare bankruptcy?
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July 31, 2017 8:56am
holysheet

check out the latest on little and liabour

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/07/stand-up-jacinda-or-inherit-a-ruin-political-commentator-chris-trotter.html
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July 31, 2017 8:56am
- peterwn
  
  Will the unions install Jacinda after the election or will they install another dour unionist? If Andy goes before the election, Jacinda is pretty well automatically in.
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:17am
  - cmm
    
    No matter. They can still cause enough ruction to force a new leadership fight after the elections.
    
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    July 31, 2017 11:21am
- cmm
  
  Jacinda is a wee pup. She has time on her side.
  
  She is not ready to take over the reigns of an orderly party, let alone bring an out of control mess like Labour and bring it back on track.
  
  The absolute best thing Jacinda could do for herself is to quit politics for 10-15 years and become a mum and maybe get involved in the real world (business, get a proper degree – not just this political science bullshit) . She’d actually learn a hell of a lot, as well as improve her ability to engage with real people that vote (ie. not the harpies that hang out in Twitter).
  
  She could then come back at age 50: more mature, more credible and potentially leadership material.
  
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  July 31, 2017 11:20am
  - marcw
    
    I would predict if she follows your (and my) recommendations, the chances of her remaining tribal Labour at age 50 are slim to none.
    
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    July 31, 2017 11:30am
  - holysheet
    
    Back to what? Liabour are in self destruct mode. They will be long gone by the time our little pony ever made a comeback.
    
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    July 31, 2017 11:32am
  - cmm
    
    There will always be a leftie party.
    
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    July 31, 2017 11:55am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    ‘She could then come back at age 50: more mature, more credible and potentially leadership material.’
    
    At that point and with all the new found experience, Jacinda would be voting National!
    
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    July 31, 2017 12:12pm
  - MH
    
    it would mean a change of wardrobe as well
    
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    July 31, 2017 3:18pm
  - VicParking
    
    I here she has the right skill sets if she has to ask for favours from the boys on the left.
    
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    July 31, 2017 3:32pm
billmurray

Can David Farrar or anyone on this site confirm or otherwise that Mat McCarten is still sucking on the public tit thru Labours head office electoral finances?.
Rumour in Auckland has it he is.
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July 31, 2017 9:00am
- holysheet
  
  What other reason would there be for liabour being broke? Mad Matt knows how to use other peoples money. He has form in this area.
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:05am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    He knows how to dodge paying taxes as well.
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/4994627/Unite-still-paying-off-tax-debt
    
    It’s interesting to see McCarten’s comment there that the tax debt ”wasn’t a big story”. Like Metiria Turei, his entitlement mentality is strong.
    
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    July 31, 2017 9:11am
    - calendar girl
      
      What’s the Unite situation today with ‘outstanding taxes’? That Stuff story is over six years old.
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:24am
- Happychappy
  
  billuurray : Why would that surprise you they were always going to keep him on the payroll to keep him quiet and stop him giving evidence that could cripple Labour over slavegate and the $200,000 donation.
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:16am
Southern Raider

So Bolger, Clarke, Moore and Palmer are backing a move to get 500 extra refugees into NZ now

Fuck off I say

Apart from almost all come from fundamentalist Islamic countries

Where will it end. Never as there is potentially tens of millions waiting. The money should be put into fixing their home countries
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July 31, 2017 9:10am
- Tarquin North
  
  Never has the phrase “yesterdays men” been more appropriate.
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:34am
- waikatogirl
  
  When that American woman organiser asked her to contribute to the cause, former PM Dame Jenny Shipley had the sense to say she does not wish to stand on any political toes so refused to comment.
  Very sensible of her.
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:43am
  - Southern Raider
    
    What bullshit
    
    She shouldn’t have told them to bugger off because of political toe stepping. She should have told them to bugger off because she believes we don’t want more
    
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    July 31, 2017 9:53am
    - waikatogirl
      
      SR, I imagine that is what Dame Jenny was saying. That’s how it is done in polite society!
      
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      July 31, 2017 9:59am
      - PhilBest
        
        Exactly, if you were a virtue-signaler you wouldn’t miss an opportunity to virtue-signal!
        
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        July 31, 2017 10:41am
- Jack5
  
  While the four leftie former PM’s try to stay in the headlines at election time, the activist Murdoch Stephens is on tour with his “Doing our Bit” campaign to increase the (overwhelmingly Muslim) refugee intake.
  
  Stephens is described on one web site as “… the editor-in-chief of Lawrence & Gibson, a Wellington publishing collective that produces experimental novels and heavyweight literature.”
  
  The Massey University site describes Stephens as a doctoral student in the School of Communication, Journalism and Marketing in the university’s College of Business.
  
  The title of his thesis is listed as: “How might critique respond to the urgency of climate change? A challenge for environmental communication.”
  
  The dedicated web site of the organisation called “Double the Quota,” includes these goals:
  
  1. Immediately double the refugee quota, and commit to the principle that we should do our fair share by matching per capita intakes of similar countries.
  
  2. Double the funding for support services so they are resourced to help new refugees.
  
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  July 31, 2017 2:44pm
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The winding road to housing affordability – Eric Crampton – NZ Initiative | The National Business Review

https://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/winding-road-housing-affordability

The announcement of a new way of funding urban infrastructure is a bit like announcing a way of clearing that first big slip on the road from Kaikoura to Blenheim. It’s an important and necessary start but it is only a start.

After the slips are cleared, there will still be a lot of work ahead before traffic can start moving again. The road will need to be rebuilt in places, and slopes will need to be stabilised. And if we expect that traffic will be able to start moving again the day after that first slip is cleared, we will be disappointed.

Restoring housing affordability is arguably the country’s single most important policy issue.… read more via hyperlink above …

Poverty, gap between rich & poor and housing affordability, housing shortage, and homelessness dominate discussion in lead-up to election, says Roy Morgan poll | interest.co.nz

http://www.interest.co.nz/news/89038/poverty-gap-between-rich-poor-and-housing-affordability-housing-shortage-and-homelessness

Content sourced from Roy Morgan Research

In mid-2017, and only a few months before the upcoming New Zealand Election which according to Roy Morgan is too close to call*, the key Issues for the New Zealand Election are the inter-related issues of Poverty and the gap between rich & poor, House prices & Housing affordability and Housing shortages & Homelessness.

The overall picture across all issues was covered extensively in our release on broader New Zealand Concerns released a fortnight ago and available to view here. We look in this release at Economic & Housing-related concerns in greater detail.

A significant 50% of New Zealanders believe Economic issues (27%) or Housing-related issues (23%) are the most important problems facing New Zealand. … read more via hyperlink above …

Access yesterdays posts …

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/07/general_debate_30_july_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1978128
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July 31, 2017 9:15am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  You really just do not get it Hugh.
  
  Once again: too early, too often, too repetitive, too much, soo boring . . . . .
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:19am
- Happychappy
  
  Hugh : Have you got anything that you might have sourced from the One News Colmar Brunton Poll on the 30th July 2017.
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:20am
- holysheet
  
  Hugh why not join in the debate about the extra refugees the ex pollys want us to take. By bringing in an extra 500 would this not make the housing problem you keep banging on about worse.
  
  Why no comments from you on this?
  
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  July 31, 2017 9:26am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
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    Jacoby Poulain: Bay’s housing crisis hitting home – NZ Herald
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503459&objectid=11896943
    
    Hawke’s Bay, housing and the working poor – I am concerned about this picture.
    
    When our professional working class cannot afford housing, we have a problem.
    
    I was reading an article at the weekend featuring Dunedin South MP Clare Curran saying the Auckland housing crisis is no longer solely contained to Auckland and it is detrimentally effecting Dunedin.
    
    Wellington is becoming increasingly vocal about the issue and Hawke’s Bay is increasingly following suit. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
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    July 31, 2017 10:24am
    - holysheet
      
      No, What do YOU think?
      
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      July 31, 2017 10:35am
      - sooty
        
        Hughs never had an original thought is his head!
        
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        July 31, 2017 11:04am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
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        Holysheet … go back through near 13 years of it if you like …
        
        http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org
        
        … what I said to Heather du Plessis-Allan mid last year …
        
        http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Talking-housing-affordability-across-the-globe-with-Hugh-Pavletich/tabid/506/articleID/122978/Default.aspx
        
        … mid last years RESTORING AFFORDABLE HOUSING: AN ADVOCATES TALE …
        
        http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/definition-of-affordable-housing.html
        
        Yesterdays General Debate thread …
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/07/general_debate_30_july_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1978128
        
        Saturdays General Debate thread …
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/07/general_debate_29_july_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1977963
        
        After near 13 years of this … with the ‘tipping point’ in advocacy terms being the major Government Housing Affordability Announcement October 2012 … in large measure since then I have been more interested in sharing the views of others.
        
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        July 31, 2017 11:11am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Sooty … Are you aware what Dr Oliver Hartwich, Executive Director of the New Zealand Initiative said within the Introduction to this years Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey ? …
        
        http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf
        
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        July 31, 2017 11:17am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Auckland has little to cheer about in new dwelling consent figures, with June numbers lower than a year ago | interest.co.nz
        
        http://www.interest.co.nz/property/89047/auckland-has-little-cheer-about-new-dwelling-consent-figures-june-numbers-lower-year
        
        The number of new residential building consents issued dropped 7% in June compared to May, but remained up by 4.1% compared to June last year.
        
        According to Statistics NZ, consents were issued for 2560 new dwellings in June, compared to 2794 in May and 2752 in June last year.
        
        There was little to cheer about in the figures for the Auckland market where there is a growing housing shortage, with 906 consents issued for the Auckland region in June which was up slightly on the 885 issued in May but down on the 921 issued in June last year. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        July 31, 2017 11:58am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … FROM MID LAST YEAR …
        
        … Where are the long overdue ‘consents rates per 1000 population per annum’ (standard industry measure) trends for each of the territorial authorities ?
        
        Raw figures without reference to the underlying population base are inadequate.
        
        An excellent media report from mid last year …
        
        Despite huge housing shortfall, Auckland consents per capita only middling | Michael Daly | Stuff.co.nz
        
        http://i.stuff.co.nz/business/83682402/despite-huge-housing-shortfall-auckland-consents-per-capita-only-middling
        
        Despite the desperate need for new houses in Auckland, the city is only in the middle of the pack when it comes to housing consents as a proportion of population.
        
        Figures from Statistics New Zealand show that in the year to June, Auckland had 6.1 new dwelling consents for every 1000 residents. Christchurch remained on top with 11 as it continued its earthquake recovery.
        
        Even with Auckland’s unpromising performance, the data continues to underline the growing dominance of the upper North Island, with strong showings by Bay of Plenty and Waikato, and Northland doing slightly better than the metropolis to its south. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        July 31, 2017 12:39pm
      - stigie
        
        All together now……
        
        Oh Fuck Hugh
        Two ticks Blue
        
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        July 31, 2017 2:46pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … LATEST FROM AUSTRALIA … CRASHING IN UNISON ?…
        
        New home sales crash to 2013 low – MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/07/new-home-sales-crash-2013-low/
        
        From The HIA:
        
        New home sales in Australia’s largest states hit their lowest level since October 2013 with sales sliding in both the detached house and multi-unit sides of the market according to the latest HIA New Home Sales Report.
        
        “During June, new home sales declined by 6.9 per cent compared with the previous month and were 11.9 per cent lower than the same period last year,” explained HIA Senior Economist Shane Garrett.
        
        “These results support HIA’s latest set of forecasts that new dwelling commencements are set to continue easing until late 2018. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        July 31, 2017 5:26pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

China celebrated the PLA’s 90th birthday with a massive military parade on Sunday and Russia celebrated Navy Day with a massive military Parade in St Petersburg.

When’s New Zealand going to celebrate its military with a big ass parade?
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July 31, 2017 9:21am
- MCos
  
  You got the money, honey?
  The big arse parade for the Americans Cup cost almost half a million.
  Building mocking ups of some rockets and borrowing all those old LOTR uniforms from Peter Jackson plus hiring extras & a couple of elephants from Thailand isn’t cheap.
  
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  July 31, 2017 10:12am
OECD rank 22 kiwi

For Reals:

Full video: China’s grand military parade marks PLA 90th birthday
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July 31, 2017 9:23am
OECD rank 22 kiwi

I ain’t lying:

Russia Navy Day Parade in St. Petersburg
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July 31, 2017 9:25am
holysheet

see above
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July 31, 2017 9:25am
MCos

Andrew Little continues as leader of the Labour Party, which is gradually sinking beneath the waves of public indifference. Changing the leader has worked really well recently and quite frankly there aren’t nobody left.
Somebody suggested they should have stuck with Shearer because he was polling 35%. I remember at the time he was looked upon with almost as much derision as Little & 35% doesn’t win elections.
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July 31, 2017 9:51am
- Gabby
  
  I think they should give serious consideration to commencing campaigning.
  
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  July 31, 2017 10:13pm
lifesgood

This “poverty” misnomer has to stop. What they mean is ” low income”. There will always be low income earners, that’s just the way the world is. Don’t insult them by calling them poor.
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July 31, 2017 10:03am
- cmm
  
  Low income is also a misnomer. Most of the world survives on less than $2 a day.
  
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  July 31, 2017 11:24am
  - GoVege
    
    Good comparison CMM….not.
    
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    July 31, 2017 10:08pm
JasonJohns

Warriors act like this
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11897055
Too bad the cucks don’t like it!
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July 31, 2017 10:03am
Rodney Randall

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/07/30/halal-chief-australian-women-need-muslims-fertilise/

“It will [sic] mandatory for all women to wear hijab or burka if they prefer, bikinis will be displayed in Museums but not on nubile bodies anymore,”

“When that happens everything in Australia will be Halal certified. Bigots and pigs will be declared Haram and must not be approached or touched, they can live together in reserves. There will be a Halal butcher on every corner, all other butchers will be offered to convert to Halal or given [sic] a passage back to where their ancestors came from.” Halal certification chief Mohamed Elmouelhy

Diversity is simply code for White Genocide
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July 31, 2017 10:09am
- simpleton1
  
  Maybe this could be the reason some want these hapless refugees.
  
  There is a growing trend in Europe of middle aged or older women enticing young male asylum seekers with favors and money for sexual gratification and making the young migrant men dependent on them. https://venitism.wordpress.com/2017/07/28/sugar-mamas/
  
  Seems like there is a supply, and then their is a demand situation.
  Are they creating a cougar country?
  
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  July 31, 2017 10:14am
  - PhilBest
    
    One thing they are creating already, is a male / female imbalance worse than China.
    
    As skeptical Europeans and others repeatedly ask, how come “refugees” are so predominantly military-age males? The women and children back home might be bravely fighting ISIS, but these youth are more keen to show militant spirit by invading Europe.
    
    But back to the male / female imbalance, this has implications for “s*xual emergencies” and soft lefty-libbewwal judges letting off immigrant rapists with a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket.
    
    A dystopian future comedy novel writer couldn’t have made this stuff up about the future of their civilisation. Orwell, Huxley, etc, got a lot right but even they didn’t predict the depths of insanity / treason we are seeing.
    
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    July 31, 2017 10:48am
    - kowtow
      
      “As skeptical Europeans and others repeatedly ask, how come “refugees” are so predominantly military-age males?’
      
      Because they are the vanguard of what is a soft invasion of Europe , today it is a bridgehead . The breakout is pending .
      
      The future of Europe is like what we saw in the Balkans in the Nineties, and that situation was brought about by the Turkish invasion of Europe which was preceded by the Turkish invasion of Asia Minor.
      
      The west needs to do some reading up.
      
      Manzikert AD1071
      
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      July 31, 2017 11:52am
      - KevOB
        
        I have similar concerns.
        
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        July 31, 2017 12:41pm
  - GoVege
    
    At last…the good news!
    Hopefully these “cougars” will teach their toy boys how to be SNAGs.
    Then when the ladies shuffle off to their reward, their dudes will be westernized enough to make successful families with no need for burqas/wife-bashing and all the other trappings of their former cultures.
    Here’s hoping….
    
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    July 31, 2017 4:11pm
- holysheet
  
  bikinis will be displayed in Museums but not on nubile bodies anymore,”
  You mean like this?
  
  http://pic.enorth.com.cn/003/006/301/00300630125_41479c03.jpg
  
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  July 31, 2017 10:39am
  - RalphT
    
    Thanks, you’ve ruined my day.
    
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    July 31, 2017 10:53am
  - simpleton1
    
    One would think that with the numbers going into Europe, she will be ‘spoilt’ with choice.
    
    Maybe can enjoy the attentions of quite a few, as it could prove difficult to make a break through.
    
    Would be the quiet assassin when she rolls on top of them.
    
    As PB mentions, a dystopian future, and insane world, that may come about with savage costs.
    
    At the same time the mantra is: “who are we to judge” so it becomes a do nothing approach, other than make noises, comment, reasoning, and all to soulless wind of ongoing change.
    
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    July 31, 2017 11:07am
  - Inandout
    
    A new meaning for ‘welcome to the fold’.
    
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    July 31, 2017 11:51am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Not so much a bikini as a small marquee with leg holes
    
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    July 31, 2017 11:58am
- GoVege
  
  Not quite . …..western civilization genocide /suicide .
  
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  July 31, 2017 3:37pm
Rodney Randall

Holy, now that’s a wholesome woman! 🙂
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July 31, 2017 10:44am
- RalphT
  
  Not so much a big momma as several.
  
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  July 31, 2017 11:27am
Jack5

I wonder if NZ is cancelling passports of citizens it believes have been fighting for ISIS.

The mad Mark John Taylor apparently burned his, and maybe already dead, but there are likely others.

Britain has stripped passports from 150 people suspected of being ISIS terrorists, but apparently about 300 of the scum have been able to return to Britain already.

Another diversity dividend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4743582/Ministers-strip-150-jihadists-UK-passports-fears-heighten-new-wave-attacks-return.html
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July 31, 2017 10:58am
- simpleton1
  
  The instructions to this undercover journalist in Germany is very thorough.
  
  http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/bild-international/isis-instructs-the-bild-reporter-go-to-a-hospital-and-calmly-slay-them-52675562.bild.html#fromWall
  
  We do not need them returning to any Western Civilization country, yet we keep bringing in the seeds of this destruction.
  
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  July 31, 2017 11:25am
Rodney Randall

“Tt would be a good idea for NZ to shoulder a bit more of the burden” – Sir Geoffrey Palmer

V.S.T. – Virtue Signalling Twat
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July 31, 2017 11:04am
Shawn Herles

On the refugee issue Bill English shows some spine and some common sense after four past PM’s demand we take more.

“Mr English says countries which take more refugees per head of population than New Zealand struggle to get them integrated into the local culture.

“We do focus strongly on doing a good job on the refugees who come here so they can be properly part of our community.

“The experience in a number of other countries where there are larger numbers is that it’s difficult for them to integrate. After five, seven, 10 years only a small proportion of them have jobs and have the language.””

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/07/refugees-will-end-up-jobless-if-we-take-in-too-many-english.html
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July 31, 2017 11:30am
- RalphT
  
  A view no doubt shared by a few other politicians, but only Bill has the guts to say it.
  
  As they say, two ticks blue; but that’s easy for me as I’m in Wellington Central and not voting for the blue candidate means a vote for Grant Robertson. No thanks.
  
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  July 31, 2017 11:51am
  - KevOB
    
    ☑️☑️
    
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    July 31, 2017 12:43pm
    - Gabby
      
      Two Licks Poo.
      
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      July 31, 2017 7:16pm
      - RRM
        
        Ten dorra gobby!
        
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        July 31, 2017 7:28pm
- kowtow
  
  Muslims don’t “find it difficult to integrate”. The very nature of Islam is not one of integration , it is of dominance. Its violent history proves that.
  
  It is not a religion, it is an ideology and we don’t need it in the west . It has always been an enemy of the west. Keep it out.
  
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  July 31, 2017 11:58am
  - RalphT
    
    Yes, we’re going to have enough trouble in the future from the ones we already have without letting in any more.
    
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    July 31, 2017 12:07pm
Rodney Randall

Bolger currently being interviewed on ZB.

Host Chris Lynch put it to him: ” You say 500 is a small number, how many would you actually like to see?”

Bolger: “Oh I didn’t say I wanted any higher”

Typical forked tongued ex politician.

Bolger sounds like an old mouldy brain fart on a drip.
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July 31, 2017 11:32am
Stars And Stripes

Lot of talk about two ticks blue on KB lately but S&S is on the horns of a dilemma with that one.
In the Wanganui electorate I have had Chester Burrows for my MP and to be honest was pretty ambivalent about him so not sorry to see him go.
Never really had much to do with him apart from sending him a couple of letters about wogs which he never answered but I was not really expecting him too either.
New candidate is Harete Hipango.
From her website:
Harete Hipango is a lawyer and proud Whanganui local. Both her and her husband Dean MacFater are mana whenua of the area, with Harete having affiliations with Te Atihaunui a Paparangi, Ngati Apa and Nga Rauru.

Yes well all that carry on is about as palatable as a cold cup of sick as well so I have got some thinking to do.
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July 31, 2017 12:03pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Take the opportunity to meet Harete S&S. I think you might be very pleasantly surprised.
  
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  July 31, 2017 12:31pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Never forget that Harete Hipango’s illustrious ancestor gave his life protecting the early settlers of Whanganui from the Hauhau.
  
  http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Cow02NewZ-c3.html
  
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  July 31, 2017 7:40pm
lifesgood

I’m logged into KB but can’t tick up or down. How do I fix this?
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July 31, 2017 12:07pm
- RalphT
  
  Slip me a fiver and I’ll vote for you.
  
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  July 31, 2017 12:08pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Sorry, RalphT, all good now.
    
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    July 31, 2017 12:21pm
simpleton1

Not “lone wolves”, but “KNOWN WOLVES” following Mohammad’s ideology and being supported by other muslims.

I explain that I do not have a driver’s licence. The instructor of Riaz Khan Ahmadzai – the ISIS attacker from Würzburg – also wanted to talk him into a car attack. But Khan had no driver’s licence. In the end, he used an axe and injured five people on a regional train. http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/bild-international/take-a-car-not-a-bomb-bild-chatted-with-this-isis-killer-52664928.bild.html

I do wonder about this guy, if he is as he says he is then he is a very brave man, and also a naive and foolhardy, having his photo and name being put out there. Undoubtedly he then would now be on a jihadist death list.

I do not know why I have some doubts. Is he just painting things to encourage more “right wing” reaction. Perhaps his articulation of it seems makes it seem beyond belief, although I see beyond what authorities say in their cover ups, like the those sell out ex PMs.
Germany and the rest of the world urgently need to take note, and action to expose and guard against this ideology into their education system and government departments.

Though the way the jihadi attacks occur, and the Sergeant Schultz’s “no nutthing”, it is good to have this more exposed.
Pity the authorities, politicians, will remain blind to the source of the ideology, in the koran, hadith, sira and sunnah.
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July 31, 2017 12:07pm
Maggy Wassilieff

According to RNZ there was an unveiling of a plaque to Col L.W Andrew V.C. at Wellington Railway today – on the centenary of his bravery.

I can’t see any pics or write up in Stuff/Dom Post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Andrew
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July 31, 2017 12:22pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  It’s far more important for Stuff and the Dom-Post to vilify Todd Barclay and deify Metiria Turei than acknowledge a genuine hero.
  
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  July 31, 2017 12:35pm
  - Prince
    
    I hear the Dompost price has gone up 10 per cent. Lefties Jane Bowron and Dave Armstrong don’t come cheap.
    
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    July 31, 2017 5:41pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Finally something up on RNZ site
  
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/336180/railway-worker-who-received-vc-in-ww1-honoured-with-plaque
  
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  July 31, 2017 3:09pm
Keeping Stock

So, according to the interview on RNZ this morning, Andrew Little apparently discussed Labour’s poor polling and the possibility of him standing down with his colleagues.

Which makes me wonder; which of his colleagues thought that this was a good thing for Little to disclose publicly? After all, he will now face questions about his leadership every day until the election.

Can anyone smell fish?
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July 31, 2017 12:34pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Very hard to believe that he is getting any decent advice.
  
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  July 31, 2017 12:35pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    “Hey Clint; are you sure those snapper Grant gave you are fresh?”
    
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    July 31, 2017 12:36pm
    - sooty
      
      David Shearer had two snapper, Andrew Little would be struggling with two herrings.
      
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      July 31, 2017 1:56pm
      - OTGO
        
        Red ones
        
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        July 31, 2017 4:38pm
- Gabby
  
  You think nobody would have asked smuggy?
  
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  July 31, 2017 7:13pm
Rodney Randall

http://yournewswire.com/german-court-sharia-police/

“The fact is Muslim men are now legally cleared to patrol German streets and enforce radical Islamic law.

Creeping Sharia? Germany is well and truly past that stage. The civilized world is losing a war it does not even know it is fighting. Ladies, you best pick up your burkas while they are cheap and you are still allowed to drive yourself to the store.

“Sharia patrols” are not just a German problem. They have been reported in other European cities including London, Copenhagen and Hamburg, raising fears of a creeping Islamification, endorsed by European elites and the legal system that protects them.”

Germany is on the slippery slope to oblivion. But they voted in the government that can do this to them. They put the government in place, they can overthrow it, violently if necessary. Until then, it’s their country. Their circus. Their monkeys.

When their country implodes, we must absolutely seal our borders against European refugees. Let them stay home and fight or die. Euronate on them. We don’t want their disease here. We have enough of their kind already.
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July 31, 2017 12:37pm
- MCos
  
  From the same web site
  “Britney Spears has told close friends and staff that Prince William is a reptile who shifts between human and reptilian form during moments of heightened arousal. Explaining that she had a “cyber romance” . . . . “
  
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  July 31, 2017 1:20pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35059488
    
    earlier in 2015 from your fav liberal news source MToss
    
    And in 2013 from the Clinton News Network
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcsG-u2GtZE
    
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    July 31, 2017 3:15pm
JasonJohns

Jeff Sessions has stepped aside and thrown President Trump to the wolves. He is at least complicit in a slow coup. If I’m President Trump, I have to began wondering if Sessions is deliberately working along with all of the others to run his administration into the ground.

The conflict of interest that overhands Mueller is so big, yet no one, especially Jeff Sessions is speaking out against it.

Lindsey Graham overlooks the conflicts of Mueller and just blatantly threatens Trump that he will face the wrath of hell if he fires Mueller.

No a single government official would accept being railroaded like this themselves, but they are all willing to overlook it because Trump is the target.

Lindsey Graham is a lawyer who serves in the military in that capacity. He knows full well that Mueller has conflicts that should bar him from serving as special prosecutor in this case, but he doesn’t care.

Stacking the deck against Trump and then threatening him with impeachment and criminal prosecution of he does anything to dismantle this witch hunt is exposing the total corruption of our political class.

I hope, that somehow, each and everyone of them pay dearly for what they’re doing.

Sessions needs to prove that he’s not involved in taking down President Trump.

So far he’s done nothing to show that he isn’t.

Trump must purge the fifth column RINOs. Sessions, Bannon etc
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July 31, 2017 12:50pm
- GazzaW
  
  If Trump purges too many more staff there’ll be no one left to turn off the lights in the White House.
  
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  July 31, 2017 3:26pm
simpleton1

Surveillance Research of mosques by Indonesian government, mentioned on rnz news and worldwatch.

……. three types of mosques:
#Public mosques used by the IS sympathisers without the knowledge of the caretaker
#Mosques where the caretaker is linked to IS-affiliated groups but the worshippers are not
#Private mosques where the caretaker and the congregation both support the IS terrorist group

….. even the caretakers of the mosque would act as travel agents for those willing to go to Syria. ……

“For radical groups meeting face to face is very important to them because they build their trust after they meet face to face,” Mr Bhakti said.

“They can’t do that online, online they could be anybody.”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-31/indonesian-mosques-accused-of-spreading-islamic-state-ideology/8758158

They are now “operating more secretively” and spreading out after this exposure.
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July 31, 2017 1:00pm
Stars And Stripes

Just had a weekend down in Palmerton North staying at The Distinction which used to be Travelodge and before this Novotel.
Very pleasant stay indeed but to the women staying on the first floor who had a couple of boisterous orgasms at about 10.30pm which were so loud they drowned out the band downstairs you really are a dirty little tramp as every smutty suggestion and request you muttered was clearly audible in our room as well.
After such a performance I had the impression you must be a real hotty but on encountering you next morning in the restaurant that definitely was wrong as you actually look like a Pak n Save creature and that thing in the bathroom is called a shower.
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July 31, 2017 1:01pm
- Kimbo
  
  Another long-overdue entry in the “Postcards from Stars And Stripes”* dossier. I suggest it’s time for a Kiwiblog whip-round to fund some more road-trips so you can gather material for your social-anthropological case studies, S&S.
  
  *© 2017 Kimbo Enterprises
  
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  July 31, 2017 1:07pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I only want to read a highly censored version, fit for a refined elderly lady……something along the lines of:
    
    “I had a weekend in Palmerston North; it was against my better judgement. The wind blew; I was bored.”
    
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    July 31, 2017 5:53pm
- nasska
  
  Your research into the mating habits of Potamochoerus larvatus novaeseelandiae will not go unrewarded S&S. 🙂
  
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  July 31, 2017 3:04pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @nasska
    
    you need your eyes tested…
    we’ve only got Captain Cookers.
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4151/5052084791_7821f01e45_b.jpg
    
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    July 31, 2017 7:53pm
    - nasska
      
      I know a bush pig when I see one. 🙂
      
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      July 31, 2017 8:14pm
Shawn Herles

‘Europa, Eurabia and the Last man’

“Make no mistake this is nothing less than the utter and complete transformation of Europe into Eurabia, a cultural and political appendage of the Arab and Afro/Muslim world. This Eurabia is fundamentally anti-Christian, anti-Western, anti-American, and anti-Semitic.

And with every passing day, we see the further demise of the West, the onslaught of Eurabia (which could not be won at the gates of Vienna in 1683) and the nihilism — of the Last man.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/30/malloch-europa-eurabia-last-man/
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July 31, 2017 1:02pm
UpandComer

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/australian-women-need-us-to-fertilise-them-halal-chief-slams-white-men-in-facebook-rant/news-story/ec80593236bd78ebdaeedfce2b1d65b6

Hey guys – are you Halal?
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July 31, 2017 1:44pm
- simpleton1
  
  Do you mean halal sausage with halal mountain oysters?
  I do not think I would agree with the butcher’s halal removal, with prayer, and nor the fry-up in halal fat.
  
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  July 31, 2017 2:08pm
Shawn Herles

“2017 Has Seen a Terror Attack Attempted in Europe Every Nine Days

Attacks and attempted attacks have taken place in Austria, France, the United Kingdom, Belgium, Italy, Russia, Sweden, Norway, and Germany.

Security services in Britain — population 65 million — believe there to be around 23,000 potential terror suspects or persons posing a threat. Meanwhile Belgium, with its population of just 12 million, is officially tracking around 18,000 potential jihadists, though this number has not been updated in some time.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/05/23/2017-seen-terror-attack-attempted-europe-every-nine-days/
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July 31, 2017 2:50pm
- EAD_TWO
  
  Islamophobe – stop stirring up hate!
  
  Are you not aware that the majority of Muslims don’t want to kill Gentiles?
  
  All of these diverse Gentile countries having exactly the same problems caused by Politicians not following the wills of the electorates is just a coincidence.
  
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  July 31, 2017 7:22pm
freemark

Apologies if this previously posted, but Labo(u)r parties just can’t help their corrupt ways anywhere..
http://www.smh.com.au/national/investigations/alp-takes-illegal-tobacco-donations-from-big-chinese-cigarette-importer-20170729-gxlcw1.html
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July 31, 2017 2:51pm
Stars And Stripes

School decile system to be scraped by govt
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/school-decile-system-to-be-scraped-by-govt/ar-AAp8gCJ?li=AAaeXZz&ocid=spartandhp
“The government will replace the decile system for schools with targeted funding to better support disadvantaged children, says Education Minister Nikki Kaye.
The decile system will be replaced with a ‘Risk Index’, which she said would allow better target funding to schools with disadvantaged children.
The Index would better reflect the needs of children, rather than characteristics of the school’s neighbourhood”.

Wrap it up however you like Nikki but at the end of the day you are just playing with words.
However I would be interested to see what is in this “Risk Index”.
Some possibilities:
1.The risk of students killing a teacher.
2.The risk of a student eating another student.
3. The risk of jihad at the school.
4.The risk of a student passing an exam.
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July 31, 2017 3:04pm
Swifty

Struggling financially? Needs to feed the whanau?

I say, as a Greenie, let her off! Don’t demonise the poor!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/95278099/shoplifting-granny-steals-beer-and-food-at-selfservice-checkout

#Speaking truth to power! #IamMetiria
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July 31, 2017 3:09pm
- RalphT
  
  She’ll get little sympathy from the Greens. Stealing to feed the grandchildren was ok, and indeed was the proper thing for a beneficiary to do, but she will fall out of favour for stealing the demon drink.
  
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  July 31, 2017 4:01pm
- Peter
  
  “I probably didn’t need the beer, but I thought, ‘surely I’m allowed to have something in the weekends’,” she said.
  
  But of course.
  
  I mean, if it’s for the weekend.
  
  All good.
  
  #IamAGreenie
  
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  July 31, 2017 4:25pm
Manolo

Madness in 2017 France:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4738836/Plans-migrants-French-hotels-slammed.html

President Macron’s plan to transform 62 hotels across France into migrant shelters have been met with backlash from officials.

Mayors and police unions slammed the plans over fears towns with smaller populations could be ‘filled with hundreds of single men’.

Mr Macron has vowed to clear migrants of France’s streets by the end of this year and ensure those awaiting asylum are housed and not sleeping rough.
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July 31, 2017 3:31pm
- Jack5
  
  A bit like our government departments, Immigration, MBIE, and Tourism targeting Southland as a refugee zone.
  
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  July 31, 2017 4:53pm
  - wiseowl
    
    Australia has taken in more than 21,000 refugees from Syria and Iraq in 2 years and 30% of them have settled in one Sydney suburb.Arabic is the common language and complaints against the Government and employers are common.
    
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    July 31, 2017 7:36pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Hamilton killing…

girls arrested
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/95287275/fatal-hamilton-stabbing-teen-girls-arrested
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July 31, 2017 3:50pm
- GoVege
  
  Oh..My…God!!
  Surely it’s time we had a nation-wide curfew for kids under 16.
  Winston?
  
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  July 31, 2017 4:05pm
- starboard
  
  Death penalty for the mongrels.
  Hang ’em high.
  
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  July 31, 2017 4:57pm
SPC

A Winter Queens tale of the handover of the keys to the once united kingdom. For the winter of discontent is coming to a new land.

ACT ONE

Scaramouche will you do the fandango, little skirmisher will you dance to my little finger tune.

Both twice divorced enjoy communication of their third marriage time in the White House together. One on twitter and the other in angry rants on the public record of those who disappoint them.

ACT TWO

Tony and huuuge majority Donald become brothers, like George and Jeb, a new Josef and Lavrenti who commune as one when they bare their angst against the world.

ACT THREE

GOP Civil War.

ACT FOUR

A President loses his head, and his best men cannot put it back on.

ACT FIVE

The handover of the keys to the kingdom to one born to another mother.

ACT SIX

The end of the winds of war.

The End.

Loosely based on the story of the Queen of Bohemia, ancestor of the House of Hanover.
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July 31, 2017 7:08pm
tavita

Tax lawyer fined $8.2 million for tax avoidance- ie a scheme to reduce one’s tax through legitimate arrangements. As distinct from tax evasion which is illegally not paying tax. What has our legal system come to when it would even countenance IRD doing someone for tax avoidance? Everyone who claims payments to charity is avoiding tax.
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July 31, 2017 7:36pm
- Gabby
  
  Sounds like a plea deal. Dodgy lawyer gets to avoid gaol.
  
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  July 31, 2017 7:41pm
Brigitte

Newshub poll for leaders:

English 25.8
Winnie 11.9
Jacinda 8.7
Little 7.1
Key 6.0

Well at least Andy still rates ahead of our last PM even if only just.
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July 31, 2017 7:56pm
nasska

Tip for the Kitchen:

When cooking vegetarian meals stir in a generous serve of coconut oil.

This will make them easier to scrape off the plate into the rubbish bag.
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July 31, 2017 8:16pm
- Brigitte
  
  Top tip: If you have vegetarian friends who talk about veal substitute that “tastes just like the real thing” then you know exactly what to cook – and what to tell them it is.
  
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  July 31, 2017 8:36pm
  - GoVege
    
    What have you got against baby cows Brigitte?
    
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    July 31, 2017 10:27pm
- GoVege
  
  Just think nasska, you don’t have to slaughter sweet little animals anyore. ..the new meat sustitutes taste just like the real thing!
  
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  July 31, 2017 10:30pm
Scorpion

BOYCOTT HALAL

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NO SHARIA TAXES ON NZ
OR AUS FOOD

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July 31, 2017 10:45pm
- simpleton1
  
  A dyslexic blur has just occurred,
  so tldr
  
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  July 31, 2017 10:49pm
Manolo

What a farce!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/us/politics/anthony-scaramucci-white-house.html
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BOYCOTT HALAL

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