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Maggie Pie

Is she in over her head?
Were we sold a pup?

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June 6, 2019 8:04am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Is the Pope a catholic? Do big, brown bears sh*t in the woods?
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:06am
  - sooty
    
    Not very good is she!
    Will she get shafted in the reshuffle?
    
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    June 6, 2019 8:13am
    - Tall Man
      
      Depends on “what’s in it for wynston”.
      
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      June 6, 2019 6:09pm
  - Colville
    
    TS/KS the media might have been selling it… but I am preeeetttyy sure you didnt buy that…I certainly didnt!
    
    but there will be more than a few out there after the “wellbeing budget” that are going….wait a minute…WTF just happened? where is my payrise?
    
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    June 6, 2019 8:15am
  - Wangas Feral
    
    Is the Pope catholic? I am not sure. He certainly doesn’t seem so.
    
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    June 6, 2019 8:37am
  - Fletch
    
    Do a dog’s lips move when it reads?
    
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    June 6, 2019 10:18am
- Komata
  
  Maggie Pie@0804
  
  ‘Yes’!!
  
  (0812)
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:12am
- Swifty
  
  I would be interested to know what she means by ‘rid’.
  
  Does this means identify and remedy the causes, or merely treat the symptoms?
  
  Two entirely different challenges.
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:17am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Symptoms obviously. Fixing the causes would seriously erode the voter base.
    
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    June 6, 2019 11:21am
    - Swifty
      
      Yes, my thoughts exactly.
      
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      June 6, 2019 3:30pm
- JibberJabber
  
  I notice she claimed she had reduced Child Poverty in her Budget speech despite the media saying a few weeks earlier that it had increased, no one (in the media) appears to be willing to call her out on her lies.
  I guess the Labour Party handbook advises that if you remove all targets and standards you can`t be accused of lying cos` your claims cannot be measured.
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:29am
- Rich Prick
  
  “No strikes on my watch”. Yeah, whatever Cindy.
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:44am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back?
  
  Do Labour lie?
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:46am
- Lizziep
  
  Really? You could have fooled me.
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:58am
- Overworked
  
  It would be funny if it wasn’t so dire.
  
  And still the women’s mags (I include Stuff and NZH) continue to kiss her feet.
  
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  June 6, 2019 12:24pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    Not sure it’s her feet they are kissing. But the actual anatomy is NSFW.
    
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    June 6, 2019 1:03pm
RW Capitalist

I note , over the past 2 days, the news has been that China will encourage the production of baby milk formula, in China.
This will impact our trade in A2 milk…just repeating what I saw.
OK but they then go on to somehow link this, to the US trade war with China and why our economy is falling.
?????
How does our customer for this product, changing their mind (re our product) have anything what so ever to do with the trade war?
This appears to be a feeble attempt to make excuses, for the entirely domestic reason, for OUR failing economy.
Shouldn’t we just be saying “well we had a good run, time to find new markets, to take up the slack”
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June 6, 2019 8:17am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Our Trade exports to China are at their highest.
  Our Producers are doing all the hard work… Our economy should be booming.
  https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/we-should-get-used-says-expert-amid-share-market-turbulence?auto=6044721160001
  Makes you wonder why Jacinda is starting to spread her meme of doom & gloom.
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:56am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Simple: if she pushes the world-economy-is-crumbling line, it will cover up her government’s appalling performance.
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:03am
    - Hacked-Off
      
      Yes and they obviously realized that their pathetic economic plan was fraudulent from day one when Mr 7% put them in office. If you remember Cindy’s first speech as PM she emphasized probable international conditions for a downturn.
      
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      June 6, 2019 9:44am
  - sooty
    
    Because she and Labour have stuffed it up bigly!
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:09am
  - Happychappy
    
    And two thirds more than our exports to the USA.
    Without our exports to China how would this excuse for a Government be able to pay for their promises.
    
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    June 6, 2019 10:39am
- greybeard
  
  On Hosking’s show on Tues he interviewed some guy about the Chinese production of Baby Formula in NZ.
  Apparently there has been an upsurge in the creation Chinese-owned NZ companies all making Baby Formula which is specifically aimed at the Chinese market but which is sold as ‘NZ’ product to keep credibility.
  But the astounding fact that came out of that interview was that all of these Chinese-owned companies were supplied their raw milk by: Fonterra !
  Fonterra thereby cutting their own throat.
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:56am
- lastmanstanding
  
  A2 Synlait and Fonterra will be stuffed. Also note artificial milk is being developed. Once that arrives and is much cheaper than the real thing NZ economy will tank.
  
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  June 6, 2019 11:24am
hullkiwi

Cindy cuts off shore oil exploration because she and Two Mums wants NZ to be carbon neutral by 2050.

Oh dear, they don’t realise how far they have to go. Ignore for the moment the stupidity of plastic bags and excess (one time) packaging on consumer goods. How about they take a walk to the local Countdown in downtown Wellington and take a look in the freezers and see what they find.

What they will find will stagger them and raise questions about food miles (the distance food travels from food to plate) and confirm the lack of sincerity regarding the concept of carbon neutrality.

I say this because yesterday, Mrs HK found in the freezers at Countdown frozen mashed potato from Belgium. What the hell!!!? Not even China, where we get strange flavoured frozen blueberries from, but frozen spud from Europe!!! Our politicians need to come back to the real world before they think it is a good idea to transform NZ in their own view!
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June 6, 2019 8:18am
- kowtow
  
  Frozen mashed spud from Belgium?
  
  At least with frozen mash you won’t get a bang in the microwave.
  
  ‘A World War One-era German hand grenade has been found among a delivery of potatoes shipped from France to a crisp factory in Hong Kong, police say.’
  
  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-47107609
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:39am
  - Sacha
    
    Friends went to visit family in the USA.
    They decided to treat their hosts with a traditional NZ roast dinner & tracked down a very expensive leg of NZ lamb and fresh veg.
    The kids in the family were disbelieving when the potatoes were transformed into mash, and the gravy was made from the juices in the pan – they thought everything came out of a packet (just add water)!
    
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    June 6, 2019 11:19am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      Any time you’re doing that again, give me a call, I’ll be round in minutes.
      
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      June 6, 2019 1:00pm
jp_1983

I’m curious why people are putting the time in the brackets..
When you made the comment it is time stamped..

When the moderator makes the comment live – the time it takes doesn’t show
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June 6, 2019 8:19am
Tony Stuart

I can’t read the whole story because I’m not willing to shell out for “premium” NZ Herald content, but this morning’s headline is damning:

Cover-up? The critical meeting between Grant Robertson and Gabriel Makhlouf

It’s always the cover-up that brings politicians down in the end…
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June 6, 2019 8:19am
- Ross12
  
  Was writer of the article reading KB yesterday Tony?
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:00am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Possibly, although I’ve only seen the first couple of paragraphs due to the paywall.
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:05am
    - sooty
      
      You would thing that everything behind the paywall would be screaming headlines in the other rag. But no it’s as though they don’t want to increase their patronage! Stuffed might as well just shut up shop!
      
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      June 6, 2019 9:14am
Happychappy

The Coalition Government and their MP’s being economical with the truth
Clare Curran with her dealings with Carol Hirschfeldand Derek Handley.
Meka Whatiri with the bruising of a staff member that called a push.
Lees-Galloway with why he approved
Karl Sroubek’s residency dispute being in prison and his record.
Trevor Mallard with his mouth instead of his brain in accusing a Parliamentary Staffer of Rape when he had already been cleared of the same offense.
Winston Peter’s on accusations involving Chris Bishop and Simon Bridges of Treasury hack.
Shane Jones on Transport issues on his cousins Tra sport Business.
And the voter still ignores the facts and lies.
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June 6, 2019 8:25am
- Wangas Feral
  
  when he had already been cleared of the same offense
  
  He was cleared of a much lesser offence. The ‘rape’ thing was pulled out of Mallard’s arse.
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:40am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Trevor Mallard with his mouth instead of his brain in accusing a Parliamentary Staffer of Rape when he had already been cleared of the same offense.
  
  The staffer had been cleared of something (a hug, an inappropriate touch?)… it was not rape…That’s Mallard’s later embellishment.
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:41am
  - sooty
    
    Labour lying! Never!
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:15am
- Greg Ettridge
  
  Karel Sroubek is not Karel Sroubek in the eyes of the justice department, he is officially referred to as Jan Antolik in both his parole bids.
  His real name is mentioned but the parole bids are in the assumed name. Go figure.
  He will be back in society in the not too distant future.
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:03am
  - sooty
    
    Are Labours fingerprints all over this?
    Are they trying to hid him?
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:17am
Tarquin North

I was watching the news for a change last night. They were showing people protesting about Trumps visit to the U.K. Why are all these people who claim to want freedom and justice complaining about a democratically elected leader of a foreign country? What he does is none of their business yet they all seem personally offended by him. At the very least they look juvenile and are behaving like spoiled brats and poor hosts.
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June 6, 2019 8:29am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Did you see the piles of rubbish that these protesters left behind? And they have the temerity to accuse Trump of trashing the environment!
  
  Hippy-crites!
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:32am
  - Ross12
    
    Proof that they were a “rent a crowd” , in my view.
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:01am
- G152
  
  You may have noticed that the deflation of the smaller blimp/balloon by a woman with a sharp implement somehow wasn’t reported by the fake news…
  If it wasn’t so funny it’d be a joke
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:36am
- tf78
  
  I must say I haven’t seen the Queen smile so much for ages – she seemed to genuinely enjoy Donald and Melania’s company.
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:59am
  - sooty
    
    Where was Cindy?
    Why was she not at the top table?
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:18am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      75th Anniversary of D-Day
      ANZACS involved
      NO Jacinda
      But travels to Paris for a talk fest that NOBODY cared about.
      1 day in China and now our Baby milk powder sales are in trouble.
      Q:
      Where did we find this idiot?
      
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      June 6, 2019 1:07pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Right tf78 but we must acknowledge the Queen lived through those times not only hearing those words from the Supreme Commander but also all the key people involved in D Day. Her feelings towards the USA are deep seated from first hand experience during her long reign.
    
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    June 6, 2019 1:47pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Take joy from the fact Trump drives those SJW types insane. You’d think that after three years they would have adjusted.
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:22am
  - Greg Ettridge
    
    Jacinda appears to really dislike Donald Trump.
    She posted this with pride at Pride and hasn’t taken it down, so I guess the hatred is still eating away.
    She posted this 119 weeks ago.
    The great socialist communicator!
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BQulbqhlS_0/
    
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    June 6, 2019 1:22pm
Tony Stuart

What a fantastic game of cricket at The Oval this morning. I resisted the temptation to stay up all night, although I did set my alarm for 12.15pm, and turned the radio on then. As I drifted in and out of sleep, I had the dulcet tones of the cricket commentary for company as my wife is out of town.

I got up around 4.30am to watch New Zealand’s chase, and although it was Squeaky Bum Time near the end, we got the win. Ross Taylor led the chase.

But what about the Bangladesh fans? They are absolutely superb, and are helping to make the Cricket World Cup a massive success. It’s also great that the Bangladeshi players have recovered from their near-miss at Al Noor Mosque in March, where had their bus not been running a couple of minutes late, they would have been inside when the terrorist shooting began.

Well played both teams, and best of all, the Blackcaps now top the World Cup table. Tonight Australia plays the West Indies, and ther Blackcaps are back in action in the early hours of Saturday morning against Afghanistan.
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June 6, 2019 8:30am
- oldgolfer
  
  I am still kicking myself that I didn’t make it to the TAB when the Black Caps were paying $17 to win the cup.
  Odd are much shorter now.
  Plenty of big hurdles yet, but I rate them a good chance.
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:41am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Anyone but Australia.
    Their management has complained already about crowd booing of Smith and Warner and has reportedly hired a PR company to wipe away the tears.
    Aust coach has told the paying customers who turned up wearing sandpaper outfits to “have respect” for these players.
    Hope a whole lot more come along swathed in sandpaper.
    If the games were being played in NZ, I expect they would.
    
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    June 6, 2019 8:55am
    - Biscuit
      
      Grvaelroad, I found it interesting at the time that only Smith, Warner and Bancroft – non-bowlers all – copped flak for Sandpapergate.
      
      As Ian Botham has often, and loudly, pointed out since, any bowler worth his salt would have noticed immediately if a ball had been tampered with.
      
      That the Aussie bowlers said nowt at the time says a lot about them.
      
      The ICC should have life-banned the three main perps…
      
      And banned the Australian team for a period of play…
      
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      June 6, 2019 11:29am
      - MH
        
        and where did hey hide the sandpaper-under arm? No -underpants.
        
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        June 6, 2019 5:10pm
- gravedodger
  
  Meanwhile Saffaland 0 / 3.
  
  Were NZ a spinner short. I wonder if that is where de Villiers went awry with all pace he could neither contain or take wickets at the end.
  
  Kane W seemed to be struggling and what about those three near miss runouts? had my heart rate elevated.
  
  Did that catch of Colin de G make play of the match
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:53am
  - MCos
    
    Play of the match for me was the stuffed up run out of Kane Williamson.
    I don’t know how Colin de Grand. keeps his place. His batting in ODIs is awful.
    
    Tonight’s game is a biggie.
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:48am
- yossarian
  
  I already love this world cup format. Games every night, sometimes 2 and every game counts.
  
  The Bangladeshis have been brilliant both players and fans. My new 2nd team!
  
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  June 6, 2019 12:22pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Yes, it’s fantastic. Cricket on TV at 9.30pm, or at breakfast time if it’s a day/nighter. The coverage has been superb so far, and having commentators from all over is really good.
    
    The Bangers are great, but my second team is Afghanistan. If you ever get the chance, read Out of the Ashes by Tim Albone – the story of the emergence of the Afghanistan cricket team from the very lowest reaches of world cricket to the T20 World Cup in 2012. It’s a wonderful, uplifting story, and many of the central characters are still a part of the squad.
    
    https://www.amazon.com/Out-Ashes-Remarkable-Afghanistan-Cricket/dp/0753522470
    
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    June 6, 2019 12:32pm
graham

Trade Me has removed a drawing of a naked Jacinda Ardern, deeming it “inappropriate”.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz//lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12237549&ref=clavis

In the portrait, titled “Wild Rider”, the Prime Minister is depicted riding a horse bareback with her breasts exposed.

Now I personally agree that the drawing is inappropriate. Regardless of my political views, I happen to think that we should at least try to treat our politicians with a degree of respect, even if you disagree with their policies and views. Who knows – if they are treated with the respect due to such an important office, they might just realise that the job they’re doing is actually quite important and they should also treat the job with respect. These are the same reasons that I feel the giant Trump blimp is inappropriate. Have protests against his policies by all means, but once you start ridiculing and demeaning someone you’ve lost all credibility as far as I’m concerned.

But what I find interesting is that the listing was reportedly taken down by Trade Me’s trust and safety team due to concerns it could result in complaints. A spokesperson is reported as telling Newshub that “Our thinking was that a large volume of complaints from our community was inevitable and we decided to pre-empt that feedback and remove the auction,” a spokeperson told Newshub.

So the way I read this is, no complaints have actually been received, but Trade Me thought that some complaints might be received, and acted on that basis.

Boy, Trade Me is going to be pretty busy removing auctions if they decide to remove anything that they think might generate complaints!
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June 6, 2019 8:30am
- tf78
  
  I thought it was so funny that Trademe took the listing down and the photo was plastered all over Stuff.
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:01am
- Rich Prick
  
  Cindy with her boobs out? What kind of mind thinks we’d like to see that rendering?
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:19am
  - mark15
    
    Indeed.
    But help is at hand with 60 trillion hundred dollars in the well-being bucket for mental health things
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:25am
    - sooty
      
      Did Helen Clark paint it?
      
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      June 6, 2019 11:47am
  - lilman
    
    Yes, but who was that riding her?
    
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    June 6, 2019 2:52pm
- secondcumming
  
  I wonder who it is holding the reins? 😎
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:04am
Maggie Pie

Sometimes when my partner is away i only shave one leg so when i lie down it feels like i’m laying next to a man
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June 6, 2019 8:35am
- Komata
  
  Maggie@0835
  
  Too much information m’dear, too much information…
  
  (Thought you should know).
  
  (0853)
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:53am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Thank you Komata 🙂
    You know i do wonder how many people read my posts and think: “I hope shes getting psychiatric help”
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:56am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It’s your wellbeing we are concerned with.
      There’s no money for Psychiatric care, but I’m sure we could all find you a wellbeing counsellor.
      
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      June 6, 2019 11:11am
    - Garbageman
      
      Keep it up Maggie you are a breath of fresh air amongst all the old pale stale males on here
      
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      June 6, 2019 11:29am
- cmm
  
  The big question is does he do the same?
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:39am
  - MCos
    
    Why would Maggie’s bloke want to lie next to another bloke?
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:50am
    - Sacha
      
      Or another girl?
      
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      June 6, 2019 11:26am
      - sooty
        
        What happens in the mai mai stays in the mai mai. I would hope!
        
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        June 6, 2019 11:50am
Frank Thomas

Just reading about the 75th anniversary commemoration of D-Day which had 13 allied leaders along with the Queen in attendance. Why wasn’t our leader there as well?
I understand our GG was there but surely as other world leaders could find the time to attend she could too.
She manages to travel to France at the drop of a hat, for a virtue signalling w**kfest, but can’t be bothered when she will only be there as a bit player.
Or was it because here arch nemesis Trump was there…….
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June 6, 2019 8:39am
- Ian Hawthorn
  
  I don’t think any NZ forces took part in D Day. Our boys were fighting in Italy at the time. Someone please correct me if I am wrong on that.
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:52am
  - Swifty
    
    Plenty of Kiwis took part that day in the sea and in the air.
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:07am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    You are correct… No NZ Military Units… but some NZers were there…notably Hargest.
    https://nzhistory.govt.nz/war/d-day
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:08am
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      Thank you Maggy for that detail.
      
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      June 6, 2019 1:06pm
    - Jack5
      
      Brigadier Hargest – DSO and two bars, MC – was a brave NZ battalion commander in World War 1, but was generally regarded to have been left a little “shell shocked” as they said of PTSD in those days.
      
      He was a member of Parliament when World War 2 broke out. The Army regarded him as medically unfit and too old, but Hargest’s political pals pulled strings and he went to war.
      
      Hargest was blamed, fairly or unfairly, for the loss of the crucial Maleme Airfield in the Crete campaign.
      
      Hargest was taken prisoner in North Africa in late 1941, and met Rommel. A prisoner of war in Italy, Hargest was in a group of senior officers who tunnelled to freedom. He and another New Zealander, Brigadier Reginald Miles, were the only two to reach neutral Switzerland.
      
      From Switzerland, Miles and Hargest set off through defeated France for the Spanish border. Miles committed suicide, but Hargest, with the help of the French Resistance, reached Spain then Barcelona and its British consulate.
      
      Taken to Britain, Hargest, as an official observer, landed in Normandy on D-Day with the British 50th Division. A shell killed him six days later.
      
      Hargest’s son, Geoffrey, was killed at Monte Cassino, and another son was killed in Malaya fighting the communist insurgency.
      
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      June 6, 2019 1:42pm
      - MH
        
        both he and inglis were “reported to be be disloyal to Freyberg after the evac from Crete. had it been held it would have been a logistical nightmare to supply more so than malta-kudos to Keith Park.
        
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        June 6, 2019 5:44pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        My father was on Hill 107 Maleme …
        so I have a jaundiced view of Hargest.
        
        https://nzhistory.govt.nz/war/the-battle-for-crete/the-controversies
        
        Tho’ if it wasn’t for Hargest’s inaction, my old daddy mightn’t have ended up being my old dad.
        
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        June 6, 2019 8:40pm
  - Frank Thomas
    
    Yes, you are correct, no NZ forces actively took part.
    However only three nations contributed to the actual landing, the USA, UK and Canada as I understand. The commemoration service was for the Alllied forces of WWII, hence the presence of the Aussie PM and other European leaders.
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:13am
    - Frank Thomas
      
      Even the German prime minister was there for goodness sake…..
      
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      June 6, 2019 9:16am
      - sooty
        
        And her team lost!
        
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        June 6, 2019 9:21am
      - sooty
        
        Can anyone tell me, did she get the invite?
        
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        June 6, 2019 9:22am
      - stephieboy
        
        sooty, at least Germany and its leader unlike their Japanese counterparts are prepared to examine their history in an open and honest manner .
        
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        June 6, 2019 10:04am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        And Macron, representing the cheese eat surrender monkey’s, thanking the Allies for liberating Europe while caning the UK for leaving the EEC (as it was) for no other reason than it can.
        
        When the Germans create a fourth Reich, let them have the duplicitous French bastards; they will be giving them back after six months of their Gaelic shit.
        
        Britain has paid to leave Europe, count the white crosses, how much is each life given worth to the French for their freedom from the German tyrant?
        
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        June 6, 2019 10:27am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan
        
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        June 6, 2019 11:14am
      - sooty
        
        Stephie. Pray tell, what’s that statement got to do with the price of fish?
        
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        June 6, 2019 11:55am
    - MCos
      
      My uncle was in the RNZAF flying in Bomber Command in the area at the time; although not directly involved in the invasion.
      He was killed a couple of weeks later.
      
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      June 6, 2019 10:15am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
        Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
        At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
        We will remember them.
        
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        June 6, 2019 1:15pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The BBC reports that the leader of NZ was there:
  Leaders from every country that fought alongside the UK on D-Day joined the Queen and the Prince of Wales for the commemorations on Southsea Common.
  
  They included French President Emmanuel Macron, US President Donald Trump and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
  
  Also attending were German Chancellor Angela Merkel, as well as leaders from Australia, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Greece, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, New Zealand, Poland and Slovakia.
  
  Dame Patsy Reddy is obviously NZ’s Leader.
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:55am
  - Frank Thomas
    
    Does this qualify as “fake news”?
    Serious question
    
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    June 6, 2019 10:06am
    - Jack5
      
      Mmm … There were no hakas at the commemoration.
      
      Didn’t even have Lizzie Marvelly there to sing Vera Lynn favourites to the old veterans.
      
      Bloody colonialism! ?
      
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      June 6, 2019 6:49pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    ‘Dame Patsy Reddy is obviously NZ’s Leader.’
    
    Winston not available?
    
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    June 6, 2019 10:30am
    - sooty
      
      Nor Cindy?
      Had to bath the baby!
      
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      June 6, 2019 11:56am
- freethinker
  
  I doubt the Queen would invite an unimportant vacuous know nothing unless she was short of a dishwasher, the GG a far better choice more likely not to offend the Queens principal Guest.
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:30am
- Alien
  
  According to the talk back host on zb, nz was not invited which is why jacinda isn’t there. Don’t know if that is true
  
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  June 6, 2019 2:29pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Of course it is not true.
    The invite went out to the PMs/Presidents of the 16 Nations that had an involvement.
    
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    June 6, 2019 3:12pm
Komata

FrankT (@039

Would ‘dear leader’ even know the significance of the event?

I ask this because don’t forget that she lives in her own hermatically-sealed little world and unless it appears on the TV, or will result in a photo-op for her, it doesn’t actually exist.
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June 6, 2019 8:57am
- sooty
  
  Imagine the tantrum when Cindy saw it on tv and asked the question, why am I not there. Look at all the photos lost?
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:24am
  - stephieboy
    
    sooty, we learn that the Governor General went in her place.
    
    Good enough for most people!
    
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    June 6, 2019 10:05am
    - freethinker
      
      An excellent decision and no fear of another faux pas or an insult to the Queens Principle Guest.
      
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      June 6, 2019 10:33am
- Frank Thomas
  
  I honestly don’t think that even she is that stupid. Govt officials would have told her of the importance of the event.
  It seems to me that she is once again trying to virtue signal to her base of followers.
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:27am
  - Ian Hawthorn
    
    I struggle to see how signalling disapproval of the D Day landings signals virtue, even to a leftie. I though the left liked punching nazis.
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:51am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      She’s not signalling disapproval of the D-Day landings per se, she’s just playing into the current fashion of down-playing the significance of our fore-fathers in fighting for NZ.
      
      The emphasis now has to be on the dreadful colonizers who ruined this green & Pleasant land, not on their brave sons who fought on foreign shores to safeguard our way of life .
      
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      June 6, 2019 10:46am
      - sooty
        
        The not so pale, stale and very young men that went to war to save the world and give their lives so she can ruin it now!
        
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        June 6, 2019 12:00pm
    - Tall Man
      
      She couldn’t stand being in the background while Trump rightly took centre stage.
      
      She, like her party, is as shallow as a puddle.
      
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      June 6, 2019 12:18pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Pretty sure the nazis were national socialists… you know… like the left.
      
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      June 6, 2019 12:19pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Frank Thomas ,
    
    Who actually cares out there in the real world?
    
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    June 6, 2019 10:06am
    - Garbageman
      
      Silly Steph you are so fond of saying that, we are all aware of what constitutes your real world those of us that inhabit the other dimension care very much what our pm does and her reasons for doing or not doing them, last time i checked she was employed by all of us not just her activist base
      
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      June 6, 2019 11:51am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    The 75th anniversary of D-Day was not listed as one of NZ’s tier one or tier two commemorative events for 2019.
    
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    June 6, 2019 11:11am
- Alien
  
  Well Winston is in the pacific giving away more money to keep the evil Chinese away, perhaps she is as well, can’t seem to find what she is doing today. Guess she’s trying for an election year baby
  
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  June 6, 2019 1:29pm
Yvette

Speed limits
If the speed limit on 87 percent of roads is higher than what is deemed the safe travel speed, is the agency responsible indeed irresponsible, in giving information that is incorrect and likely to cause people to kill themselves and their children or other passengers?

What now is the position of anyone who wants to challenge a speeding infringement notice, if their offence occurs on one of those 87% of roads where the speed sign itself is illegal in the safety function it is supposed to have.

And what of all that bloody rubbish that the speed limit could vary with a margin of ten km over the limit in “ordinary” travel times, but a tightened margin of 3 or 4 km in school holidays, Easter or Christmas and New Year, if 87% of roads may be wrongly signed and out by 20km in many cases?
“What is the speed limit here?” “What day of the week is it?”

Officer: You were speeding, sir. Why?
Driver: I have checked this road on the Speed Management Guide
“Explore the interactive map” and toggled between the Posted Speed Limit and the Safe and Appropriate Speed and see this road is signed illegally and that it would be a danger to observe the limit it states.
Officer: Oh …

And where does the newly started tv campaign fit in – showing drivers wilfully speeding as “nobody tells me how to drive” or “My car, my way”?
Is it supposed to support this issue of lowering speeds, or show why it may be impossible to? And without showing drivers actually in cars, is it too fucking clever for its own good – or anybody else’s?
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June 6, 2019 9:02am
- Hacked-Off
  
  Notice also that the drivers are all men, not one woman. Is this not sexist?
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:57am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    No, only men can be sexist, especially pale and stale men. I am surprised that you asked.
    
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    June 6, 2019 10:33am
  - Yvette
    
    Your speed is shared (that phrase entered in YouTube search panel gives the ad)
    Audience research revealed some staunch beliefs with comments like “My car, my rules”, “If you want to drive then you drive”, and “My passengers should trust me, I always get to the destination quickly and safely”.
    As others commenting point out: all male voices.
    Is that why the ad doesn’t show actual drivers?
    
    So, what percentage of overall fatal crash drivers are male and what number female?
    What percentage of fatal crash drivers are male, where speed is determined a factor, compared to female?
    And do they have a statistic: female driver numbers to male?
    
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    June 6, 2019 11:08am
lastmanstanding

I was watching the 75th anniversary of D Day coverage last night and noted the NZ flag front and center above the stage.

As one whose father served 5 years in WW2 and whose grandfather served 4 years in WW1 I am disgusted that our Prime Minister chose not to attend alongside the leaders of the other countries including Angela Merkel.

IMHO she and her Government have dishonoured my late father and grandfather for purely selfish political reasons.

That she didnt want to attend an event where the President of the United States was present.

She like many are confused. The protocols long established are that the Office and the person holding the Office at any time are separate entities.

She and the rest of these evil feral vermin have much to learn about international protocols.
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June 6, 2019 9:16am
- Ross12
  
  “That she didn’t want to attend an event where the President of the United States was present.”
  
  Has that actually been said lastmanstanding?
  If so, that would have to go down as one of worst decisions she has made.
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:49am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    Why else wouldnt she go. She would have gone if Trump wasnt there.
    Betcha
    A chance to strut her stuff on the world stage.
    
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    June 6, 2019 11:16am
- freethinker
  
  She and the rest of these evil feral vermin have much to learn about international protocols.
  
  Cindy not yet ready to learn international protocols as she is still finishing her course on the right amount of condiments to apply to fish & chips.
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:37am
  - Overworked
    
    What, has she finished learning to wrap them?
    
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    June 6, 2019 12:34pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  It’s ironic that the objective D-Day was to help win a war to prevent a regime with globalistic goals from permanently changing the ethnicity and culture of the West.
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:55am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Yes, we should all be grateful that NZ wasn’t added to the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.
    
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    June 6, 2019 11:15am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      The IJN was stretched to the limit, logistically. They simply didn’t have the transport to even make a dent in the north of Australia, let alone New Zealand.
      
      And that was before the US solved its torpedo problem and started taking out all the Japanese cargo ships.
      
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      June 6, 2019 11:56am
    - Tall Man
      
      And we have the Americans to thanks for that.
      
      Perhaps acknowledging that the US still plays a major role in the world sticks in her craw a little too much to swallow.
      
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      June 6, 2019 12:15pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Who is missing from this photo?
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/05/d-day-75th-anniversary-portsmouth-normandy-celebrations-pictures/leaders-allied-nations/
  
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  June 6, 2019 2:22pm
kevn

@lastman… JA managed the 5 days Paris talkfest though.
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June 6, 2019 9:24am
- Poppa
  
  That was different Kev, that was all about her!
  
  Just remember, it is not about NZ, it is about her & her fan club
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:44am
  - kevn
    
    @Poppa… Great shopping opportuniddy though. Wedding coming up etc.
    
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    June 6, 2019 10:02am
  - Sacha
    
    She has a fan club? Still?
    
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    June 6, 2019 11:32am
- freethinker
  
  Gassing to another Vacuous unimportant r sole like Micron is doable for Cindy, having a sensible conversation with intellectuals like The Queen and POTUS is many levels above Cindys ability. Now cooing & gooing at kindergarten kids is fine.
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:41am
  - Garbageman
    
    That suits me just fine as long as she is not embarrassing us on the world stage again let her visit the kindys after all they are her intellectual peers that dont ask all those nasty questions that us mere mortals require answers to
    
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    June 6, 2019 11:58am
Happychappy

You read these column’s and you wonder who is telling the truth or has or will the true facts be released.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/06/06/621004/crampton-protecting-the-privileged
The stench Robertson has left really demands that the rules of a Minister can’t be spoken to by the Commissioner need to change as this looks like burying the truth and throwing the head of Treasury under the bus.
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June 6, 2019 9:26am
Ford Prefect

Feel like a good vent of your frustrations. Stuff have a survey asking how we’d like them to report on climate change. No log in or personal details taken and plenty of free text fields to clearly express your views.

It made me feel a little more empowered knowing the luvvies at Stuff would have to read through my comments, since they never allow comments on Global Warming any more.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/113231978/survey-how-should-stuff-cover-climate-change
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June 6, 2019 9:32am
- Ross12
  
  I looked at it yesterday FP. I stopped part way through because it did really allow me to put the answers I wanted to. They have already decided they accept all the BS and do not want their readers to read contrary views.
  
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  June 6, 2019 9:52am
  - Ross12
    
    I had another look at it after reading other poster’s comments and decided not to be so pig headed and did the whole survey. Like Nukuleka, below, they did not get the truth on age and voting –I genuinely do not think that should have been relevant.
    
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    June 6, 2019 11:47am
    - sooty
      
      You do not even need to tell the truth!
      
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      June 6, 2019 12:05pm
- kevn
  
  @Ford.. Awesome, thank you for the link.
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:00am
- krazykiwi
  
  From the header page:
  
  (Note: Stuff follows the scientific consensus that climate change is real and caused by human activity. We don’t give oxygen to climate science denialism.)
  
  This. Stuff’s abandonment of science, and alignment with quasi-religious dogma, is evidenced from the outset.
  
  I encourage everyone to take this ‘survey’ and don’t hold back. I gave ’em both barrels.
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:01am
  - graham
    
    Thanks for the heads-up, krazykiwi. I also told them exactly what I thought about their stupid infantile statement that “We don’t give oxygen to climate science denialism”, and said that until they started going back to the basic principles of journalism such as objectivity and impartiality, I would continue to look elsewhere for my news.
    
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    June 6, 2019 10:51am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  They did ask who you had voted for last election and your age group…..
  perhaps they’ll rationalise away your response as being from an old right-winger.
  
  or like any inconvenient temperature reading, you’ll be rejected as an anomaly, or cherry-picked for some agreement, or homogenised into the mean.
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:01am
  - graham
    
    I wonder if somebody might be tempted to … you know … stretch the truth slightly.
    
    Who did you vote for? (Holds nose, deep breath) LABOUR
    How old are you? 23 (they’ll never check)
    How would you like us to report on climate change? Honestly.
    
    Not that I would ever suggest messing with surveys, natch.
    
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    June 6, 2019 10:10am
    - Piniwi
      
      Or graham that other nasty four letter work “facts” instead of fallacy. With minimal entry restrictions and the option to offer more than one response it seems they are up to something to suit their narrative.
      
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      June 6, 2019 2:07pm
  - Nukuleka
    
    Maggy: Lie about your age and your party. That’s what I did.
    
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    June 6, 2019 10:55am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Na,
      Basically they’re scratching for ideas to make their climate stuff palatable.
      
      If their journalists are too lazy to keep up-to-date with what’s happening in the field, or don’t know how to write interesting copy, then I’m not going to help them.
      The sooner Stuff is stuffed, the better for all of us.
      
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      June 6, 2019 11:33am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I did the survey and am heartened that at the end, one is invited to file another response assuming those pushing the climate change wheelbarrow have all the time in the world to keep imputing the answers that they want to see.
  
  I am a taxpayer and not a tax taker so only have so much time to waste on this.
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:46am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Thanks for the link FP. I have expressed my views in a reasonably forthright yet polite manner.
  
  I wonder how they will respond to this one:
  
  Q16. If you could commission a journalist to cover any individual climate change story, what would it be about?
  
  A story to challenge the unchallenged narrative that man alone is responsible for climate change
  
  I have also suggested that Stuff’s coverage of climate change would be much better if they actually allowed debate on the underlying premise which they hold as a sacred premise.
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:57am
- Fletch
  
  And with that –
  
  Alarming climate report says 25m sea level rise on the way.
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/06/alarming-climate-report-says-25m-sea-level-rise-on-the-way.html
  
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  June 6, 2019 11:41am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    I wonder if anyone can be held accountable for the spreading of this alarmist horse shit when in a few years time the exact opposite occurs. There is NO correlation bewteen CO2 and temperature for most of the last 540 mil years, and any current correlation shows a lag of about 800 years where CO2 FOLLOWS temperature changes. This is almost as bad as economic terrorism.
    
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    June 6, 2019 6:01pm
calendar girl

It’s difficult sometimes to take seriously the nonsense that comes from women taking part in some activities where they claim a right to ‘equality’ with men. Now this female USA footballer is complaining that prize-money for the men’s FIFA World Cup is some 13 times greater than for the women’s version:

“United States World Cup winner Hope Solo says that the disparity in prize money at the men’s and women’s World Cups shows that “male chauvinism is entrenched” in Fifa.

“World football’s governing body says the £24m awarded to participating teams in 2019 is double the amount of 2015, but £315m was given to teams at the men’s 2018 tournament.”

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48535933
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June 6, 2019 9:32am
- Scott
  
  Calendar girl – totally agree. Men’s soccer is a global phenomenon, probably the biggest sport in the world. It attracts millions and millions of dollars of sponsorship. Some of the big clubs have histories going back to the 19th century.
  
  Women’s soccer on the other hand is a relatively recent phenomenon as a profession. Women’s soccer does not attract anything like the same crowds and sponsorship. That they should get paid the same as men, that they should get funding the same as men, is a ludicrous claim outside of any reality.
  
  Unfortunately sport has been captured by the leftist woke crowd. Our news bulletins on TV focus much less on the actual sport and more on gender issues and race issues and other concerns of the far left. This type of thinking will actually destroy sport. Because good sport is about merit. And merit is a concept that is totally the opposite of the left-wing drive for equality of outcome.
  
  On the good news front apparently ESPN has been rethinking its politics. It’s decided to get less political and concentrate more on sport. Good!
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:15am
- mandk
  
  My 10.22 post is in response to yours.
  
  As Scott indicates, the women’s game is not the same commercial proposition as the men’s game.
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:53am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Recently watched a Netflix dark comedy called ‘Huge in France’ and one theme was that poor, hard done-by male models earn far less than female ones. The male models were just not in the same demand.
  
  The free market is not about ‘fairness’ but about demand. Leftists just don’t get that.
  
  I’m all for women’s sports getting decent prize money – if there are enough supporters to pay for it (not the taxpayer!).
  
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  June 6, 2019 1:33pm
secondcumming

We should be truly concerned in this country. Although my fear is that its too late.

*China is the key suspect* in the theft of huge volumes of highly sensitive personal data from the ANU, which intelligence officials fear could be used to *groom students as informants* before they move into public service roles……

https://twitter.com/smh/status/1136376174945476608
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June 6, 2019 9:50am
southtop

This morning i completed a survey about Stuff and their attitude to Climate Change: link here
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/113231978/survey-how-should-stuff-cover-climate-change
I believe that it is important to tell the fourth estate your views.
FWIW i asked that they provide some balanced coverage as they currently are not doing themselves or the media any reputation favors by shoving their one sided views down readers throats.
They asked about what they could write on? I suggested they go back to being investigative journalists and write about things such as:
the actual make up of the IPCC panel, especially NZ representation, Patrick Moore’s testimony at the US Congressional Hearings and how much can we in NZ impact and how much would be virtue signalling.
They also asked if it is a crisis?
I note that they have already removed the banner headlines so maybe there are more people like me out there?
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June 6, 2019 10:01am
- freethinker
  
  Don’t read Stuff anymore but due to your link I completed the survey with similar remarks to yours but doubt they will be actioned.
  
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  June 6, 2019 11:13am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Me too.
  There will be a day of reckoning. Too many responsible scientists are noticing the lack of warming and sunspots and are predicting a move into along extended cooling season out into the next century.
  The weather and politicians we always have with us.
  Adapt and mitigate.
  
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  June 6, 2019 11:26am
- Alien
  
  Do you really think stuff will care about what you put? To me I just got the impression they were trying to find a reason to call it a climate crisis. The fact they want to match people’s views up with who they voted for in the election made it not worth spending time on
  
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  June 6, 2019 11:49am
Hugh Pavletich

… AUSTRALIA HOUSING …

Australia’s house price downturn is now the largest on record … Business Insider

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/australia-house-price-falls-record-downturn-2019-6

• Australia’s house price downturn is now officially the largest on record.
• Median home prices have now fallen 8.2% in nominal terms, surpassing the previous record decline seen in the early 1980s.
• At 20 months, the current downturn is also one of the longest on record.
• UBS expects prices will eventually decline by 10% before stabilising, most likely later this year.
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Australia’s Economy Expands at Slowest Pace in Decade on Housing – Bloomberg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-05/australia-s-economy-expands-slower-than-forecast-on-housing-woes
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… Housing multiple stretch is grossly excessive …

2019 15th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey

http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf
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June 6, 2019 10:03am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … NEW ZEALAND – THE FLIGHT TO AFFORDABILITY …
  
  Tens of thousands of Aucklanders left the city to find cheaper housing | Anuja Nadkarni | Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/113239156/tens-of-thousands-of-aucklanders-left-the-city-to-find-cheaper-housing
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  Recent media report on PriceWaterhouseCoopers research …
  
  Auckland households have $96 less spare cash a week than a decade ago | Todd Niall | Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/112441549/aucklanders-have-less-to-spend-than-a-decade-ago
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  Access recent articles by Jo Carroll, Catherine Harris, Joanne McCarroll and Eleanor Ainge Roy … 2019 Section Performance Urban Planning …
  
  http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/
  
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  June 6, 2019 10:41am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Eleanor Ainge Roy; isn’t she the hack who writes puff pieces for The Guardian about how wonderful and saintly Jacinda Ardern is? Or is there another Eleanor Ainge Roy?
    
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    June 6, 2019 11:00am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Tony Stuart …
      
      It was Ainge Roy of The Guardian, following the release of this year’s Demographia Survey 21 January, who led the charge on pointing out the Kiwibuild failings.
      
      This was then picked up by The New York Times … with mid February’s a ‘seething’ editorial in The New Zealand Listener.
      
      There is little doubt the New Zealand Government would have been wounded by this volley of condemnation by important generally left – wing media.
      
      It was full on !
      
      The late March speech by Housing & Urban Development Minister Phil Twyford to The New Zealand Initiative people no doubt was a response to the above.
      
      Tony Stuart … may I suggest you check out the February Update and 2019 sections http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
      
      I sure am looking forward to the governments comprehensive housing / urban development announcements in the next week or two … with long overdue and sound structural solutions to these issues … to allow affordable new housing to be built.
      
      Something of course National should have done between 2008 and 2017 … the wasted 9 years.
      
      As Alister Heath of the UK Telegraph says … if the Tories cant do housing properly, they may as well shut up shop.
      
      It sure is disgraceful and embarrassing for Real Tories.
      
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      June 6, 2019 11:26am
      - Swifty
        
        What a cock.
        
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        June 6, 2019 11:41am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Barfoot & Thompson’s May Auckland sales volumes at their lowest level in nine years but prices steady | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/100073/barfoot-thompsons-sales-are-their-lowest-level-nine-years-prices-remain-flat
        
        Quotable Value says housing market softening with average values lower than 12 months ago in Auckland as the national growth rate slows | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/100056/qv-says-housing-market-softening-average-values-lower-12-months-ago-auckland
        
        Auckland Council Group’s ongoing battle to settle leaking buildings claims | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/100056/qv-says-housing-market-softening-average-values-lower-12-months-ago-auckland
        
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        June 6, 2019 11:50am
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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobsonville#Redevelopment
        
        “However, the setting aside of a good portion of land for state housing was criticised as an economic mistake by Opposition leader John Key, as this would lower land and house values in Hobsonville. After election as Prime Minister in 2008, Key removed the state housing requirements from Hobsonville Point and instead introduced a ‘gateway housing’ scheme to help first-time home buyers.”
        
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        June 6, 2019 1:15pm
mandk

Men’s soccer in the US has 3-4 times the attendance that women’s soccer achieves.

And TV audiences for men’s games are also around 3 times as great.
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June 6, 2019 10:22am
Happychappy

I wonder when Statistics NZ makes another fuck up with vital information not being available whether this Government will use the same excuse of nine years of neglect from the previous Government as it seems they have had no funding for nearly to years and are using money they recieved from ChristChurch Earthquake insurance.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/391341/stats-nz-relying-on-insurance-cash-for-surveys
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June 6, 2019 10:32am
- cmm
  
  The tourism industry just needs hugz.
  
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  June 6, 2019 11:59am
harvey wilson

Youtube has just decided to commit a long slow suicide, demonitising thousands of creators who aren’t part of the sjw mob .

Excellent , between that and the anti trust suits hitting silicon Valley their competition might be able to hurt them .
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June 6, 2019 10:50am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Yes, heard this on Nat Radio this morning. How on earth will they deal with the fact that religions do discriminate against various groups of people (including other religions).
  
  So youtubers can’t discriminate against religious ideologies, but religious people can continue with misogyny and homophobia etc on youtube?
  
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  June 6, 2019 11:44am
- Alien
  
  I like to listen to fade to black every now and then on YouTube. They were threatened with having their channel terminated for uploading content that wasn’t theirs. Problem is the content they were uploading was their own radio show. YouTube has lost it, who ever is running it needs to step down.
  
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  June 6, 2019 11:47am
secondcumming

*Misleading* headline in todays NZ Herald…..

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12237807

I know what I’d do with him.
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June 6, 2019 10:59am
- Alien
  
  With your user name I think we all know what you’d do with him…….
  
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  June 6, 2019 11:45am
- Jules99
  
  Just saw an unconnected story and clicked on it – Ivanka ‘slammed’ for wearing a shirt dress to dinner. Not posh enough apparently. Well, if that’s the only crime they can find…..
  
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  June 6, 2019 12:23pm
  - Twinkletoes
    
    It was a full length Caroline Harrera dress with handsewn beading and embroidery – quite beautiful. Shudder to think what it must have cost. Todays fashionistas seem to concentrate on how lowcut a dress is – not really acceptable on occasions such as this. It is not the Oscars.
    
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    June 6, 2019 6:00pm
Captain Mainwaring

Why is it that such a high percentage of dodgy landlords in Auckland seem to have Indian-sounding names?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12237774
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June 6, 2019 11:27am
- DigNap15
  
  Because they are Indian?
  
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  June 6, 2019 6:12pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Genter on the road speed reckons a HUGE MAJORITY want lower road speeds.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/391361/huge-majority-of-nzers-would-prefer-lower-speeds-on-some-roads-genter

So I read the item … and couldn’t locate the research identifying the “huge majority”.

Couldn’t be bothered listening to the clip…
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June 6, 2019 11:38am
- Alien
  
  She ran an poll in her house last night, 2 out of 3 people supported lower speed limits in her house, the baby disagreed on the grounds it still had a bike seat impression on its head from the trip to be born
  
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  June 6, 2019 11:44am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  She obviously interviewed a few cyclists.
  
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  June 6, 2019 12:26pm
- mandk
  
  The headline doesn’t align with what is in the article (not that this is surprising nowadays).
  
  What Genter is quoted as saying is this:
  “a huge percentage of the community are much more comfortable travelling at the safe and appropriate speed”.
  
  Was there ever a more meaningless statement?
  
  Who wouldn’t feel more comfortable travelling at the safe and appropriate speed?
  
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  June 6, 2019 12:37pm
- kowtow
  
  Ardern justified the so called ‘single use’ plastic bag ban on some sort of huge demand from school children……. I despair at this form of infantile made up populism.
  
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  June 6, 2019 12:38pm
Alien

What a joke. I had a neighbour on home detention for benefit fraud. It is not a punishment, it’s a joke

https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/113270437/timaru-woman-continues-to-deny-needleinstrawberry-lie-at-sentencing

“A Timaru woman who confessed to inserting a needle into a strawberry in a supermarket, claimed a third party was responsible for the act as she was sentenced for the crime.

Jaydean Lila Temperley, 28, was sentenced to five months’ home detention by Judge Joanna Maze in the Timaru District Court on Thursday, having admitted causing loss by deception and making a false complaint to police.”
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June 6, 2019 12:17pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  I heard her partner say on the News that she only done it “…because she had no friends” – poor girl. She should do what i did and join Instagram. I’ve got hundreds!
  
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  June 6, 2019 12:39pm
- Garbageman
  
  What is it about people with SFNS that go on to commit crimes surely something Otago Varsity could do a study on it wouldn’t be much dafter than most of the bollocks they come out with these days
  
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  June 6, 2019 12:55pm
Maggie Pie

My partner just said: “Does anyone honestly believe that bringing Fullers Ferries under the control of ‘AT’ that it will make them more efficient?”
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June 6, 2019 12:34pm
- Alien
  
  Let’s hope it doesn’t end up under twyfords control
  
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  June 6, 2019 1:41pm
  - sooty
    
    Bound to sink, if he’s got anything to do with it!
    
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    June 6, 2019 6:04pm
Rob2

You can’t fix anything if you domn’t know what causes the problem.
Never measuring things and not even having a reliable and agreed upon system for measuring
that makes it worse.
Not having a measurement that is sound make the result unlikely to be correct.
Fail every which way.
Of course on a half a mil she could probably remove a lot of poverty by giving it away.
Think that will work?
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June 6, 2019 12:36pm
Maggie Pie

Heres a handy hint i picked up from work that i thort might be worth sharing with the group. Now that the weather has turned shyte you may be having to use your Clothes Dryer. Next time you put a load of washing in, chuck in a nice dry bath towel with it.
Takes about half the time it normally would. You can thank me later 🙂
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June 6, 2019 1:39pm
- Alien
  
  Wouldn’t it be easier if you just took your washing into work, drop it off at the hospital laundry and pick it up on the way home?
  
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  June 6, 2019 1:51pm
- cmm
  
  Makes sense
  
  The towel will absorb some of the water from the other washing. That means it has increased the surface area. More surface area for the same amount of water = faster drying.
  
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  June 6, 2019 3:51pm
  - mark15
    
    But then the towel gets wetter the more it dries
    
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    June 6, 2019 4:20pm
Poppa

Well well well……over one third of fatal accidents in Northland involved drugs. What do you say to that Genter??

And she wants to legalise the stuff which will make it worse! But no, lets reduce the road speed limits instead

I wish that woman would piss off back to where she came from & leave us alone
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June 6, 2019 2:25pm
- MCos
  
  I don’t think anyone is advocating legalising driving while impaired by anything, be they recreational drugs, medicinal drugs, prescription medication, alcohol, texting, unrestrained kids . . . . .
  
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  June 6, 2019 3:48pm
Happychappy

Look at what this Government is producing with their quest to give NZer’s a share of NZ’S wealth. Then they have the cheek to say that babyboomers are selfish.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/06/tax-the-rich-advocate-justine-sachs-grilled-over-what-defines-a-wealthy-person.amp.html
NZ is fucked if this is what we have to look forward to.
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June 6, 2019 2:32pm
- Swifty
  
  Good grief.
  
  That Justine Sachs talks like an infant.
  
  ‘It’s not FAIR!’
  
  ‘I want, I want, I want….’
  
  Entitled little brat.
  
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  June 6, 2019 2:50pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Jesus wept, these loons really do live among us. No definition of “fair share” so I’m guessing it means whatever Sachs feels is punishment enough for being a Rich Prick.
  
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  June 6, 2019 3:13pm
- Ross12
  
  I’m fairly sure this Organise Aotearoa is the NZ equivalent of GetUp in Australia and they are part of a global group under the umbrella of a George Soros funded organisation. So no surprises.
  
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  June 6, 2019 5:32pm
  - Ross12
    
    Correction: The group associated with Soros’ OPEN umbrella group is Action Aotearoa –ie. NZ’s GetUp.
    
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    June 6, 2019 5:42pm
MCos

Yesterday the Thai Parliament and Senate voted for a new PM.
The previous PM was duly elected. He was the head of the army that staged a coup in 2014 the threw out the last elected government. After that he appointed himself PM.
A new constitution was brought in with an elected lower house of 500 members and an appointed senate of 250.
Former PM older bro Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha selected his younger bro Gen Preecha Chan-ocha as a senator. Then the younger bro voted for his elder bro as prime minister in parliament as did all the other senators.

You can grizzle and grump as much as you like about how awful our system may or may not be, but there’s others that are just a bit worse.
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June 6, 2019 3:16pm
- Tall Man
  
  It’s not how they get/got there that bothers me, it’s what they do or don’t do when they are there.
  
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  June 7, 2019 10:01am
wreck1080

I reckon Folau will get his 10 million.

He quoted the bible, and lost his job.
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June 6, 2019 4:21pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Israel Folau sues Ozzie Rugby
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-06/israel-folau-sues-rugby-australia-for-breach-of-contract/11185064
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June 6, 2019 4:35pm
- nasska
  
  The crazy factor will be huge. The rights of an employer who sees itself as a God vs a loose unit who believes in a Skydaddy & thinks that homosexuals should be cast into a lake of burning excrement for all eternity.
  
  Entertainment will be the winner. 🙂
  
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  June 6, 2019 4:56pm
  - Andrei
    
    Talk about misrepresentation Nasska.
    
    What Israel Folau was saying was Christianity 101 – to inherit the Kingdom people must repent
    
    It is only in the West in the 21st century that this would be in anyway controversial
    
    Admittedly the paraphrase of Corithians he used was a little blunt not somethng a good Russian Orthodox such as myself would use but it is what it is.
    
    Maybe I should take offense at your use of “skydaddy” and ask DPF to ban you.
    
    Nah – insults to my faith are like water of a ducks back to me, no need to get precious like some groups we know.
    
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    June 6, 2019 5:25pm
    - nasska
      
      …..”insults to my faith are like water of a ducks back to me, no need to get precious like some groups we know”…..
      
      Give us a break. Pointing out the idiosyncrasies of a belief in something that isn’t there should be mandatory in the interests of sanity if nothing else.
      
      But I go along with your thoughts on the really, really precious ones who insist that they not be mocked.
      
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      June 6, 2019 5:44pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Maggie Pie…
Whatcha think?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/05/high-heels-at-work-are-necessary-says-japan-labour-minister
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June 6, 2019 5:01pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ3ZTPC0URY
  
  They got over 19,000 signatures for their petition against high heels.
  
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  June 6, 2019 6:04pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Oh gawd YES! Would love to give the Jimmy Choo’s an outing during the night shift – although the latest Crocs have raised their standards a bit lately 🙂
  
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  June 6, 2019 6:19pm
Hugh Pavletich

New accounts show surplus could be billions larger than expected in Budget | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/113285880/new-accounts-show-surplus-could-be-billions-larger-than-expected-in-budget#comments

Paulson (Pavletich) comment on thread …

No wonder ‘Tax Free Day falls about mid April in Australia … while for overtaxed Kiwis it is about 8 May.

Housing in Australia overall is about 5.6 times household earnings … while in New Zealand it is about 6.5 times across our metros (refer Demographia Housing Surveys).

No wonder the ‘flight to affordability’ is gaining momentum … within New Zealand and to Australia, as Vicky Freeman with her daughter reminded us on the front cover of the recent Budget.
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June 6, 2019 5:40pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  If this turns out to be true why should we have any confidence in Treasury, never mind it’s departing CEO?
  What if Robbo goes and sprays it about and then the next one is just as wrong the other way round?
  
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  June 6, 2019 7:43pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I see the suppression ruling on publishing an image of Brenton Tarrant’s face has just been lifted.
An order to suppress the face of the alleged gunman behind the Christchurch terror attack was lifted on Thursday.
Publishing the image of Brenton Harrison Tarrant’s face has been banned since he first appeared in Court on March 16.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/06/christchurch-terror-attack-photos-of-alleged-gunman-brenton-tarrant-s-face-no-longer-suppressed.html

mmm…. Lucky no-one reported stephieboy for posting a link on KB to Tarrant’s image yesterday.
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/06/general_debate_5_june_2019.html#comment-2503186
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June 6, 2019 5:50pm
- sooty
  
  That naughty stephieboy!
  Off to the big house for you!
  
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  June 6, 2019 6:00pm
- Alien
  
  Didn’t know there was a suppression, should be a life time ban for putting the blog in danger of breaching a suppression order.
  
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  June 6, 2019 6:08pm
- Tall Man
  
  Maggy, my youngest asks if your prize regarding “climate change argument” is still valid?
  
  Unfortunately his university educators have him convinced……
  
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  June 6, 2019 6:15pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I don’t think the Climate Conversation Group have cancelled it.
    Try here:
    https://www.climateconversation.org.nz/2017/03/if-you-can-prove-dangerous-man-made-global-warming-you-win-5000/
    
    Bryan Leyland was running the Prize.
    
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    June 6, 2019 7:25pm
    - stephieboy
      
      MW, I see Leighton Smith and yourself are listed as patrons or on the board or whatever.
      
      Interesting …
      
      This post also from a Dennis Horne is intersting.
      
      PROOF! In science? Ha ha halfwit…
      You deniers wouldn’t recognise science if it slithered up your back passage and bit your brains.
      
      https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/14/us/pentagon-says-global-warming-presents-immediate-security-threat.html?_r=0
      
      Thoughts?
      
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      June 6, 2019 8:28pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I am the Patron of Nothing.
        
        I am not on any Board.
        
        I have disassociated my name from any organisation/charity that could receive public funding.
        
        I’m putting up the $$$$$$ as an individual.
        
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        June 6, 2019 9:48pm
    - Doctor Who
      
      It is not possible to “prove” a theory to anyone who rejects the evidence, which for AGW has been described as “incontrovertible” by the American Physical Society.
      
      AGW, probably the most scrutinised science in history, and rejected only by fools and cranks. Not even the oil industry disputes AGW anymore…
      
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      June 6, 2019 8:30pm
      - Tall Man
        
        “AGW, probably the most scrutinised science in history, and accepted only by fools and cranks. ”
        
        Fixed it.
        
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        June 6, 2019 9:39pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Dennis,
        there is a pretty clear outline of what is required to get the $6000……
        just get your paper published in a recognised peer-reviewed journal.
        
        Anyway, I’m willing to put in another $5000, if experimental equipment is purchased.
        (I’d rather see some decent experimental work rather than a mathematical, theoretical treatment).
        
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        June 6, 2019 9:52pm
Jack5

? More PC rubbish …

The term “boy racer” for the (mostly young) hoons who rev around Christchurch on weekend nights has been axed — politically incorrect.

The free publication, the Star, reports the Halswell-Hornby-Riccarton community board of the Christchurch City Council has renamed “boy racer” bylaws “no cruising bylaws”.

The reason is that some of the hoon drivers are in fact “girl racers”, and others are aged 25, even 38.

Christchurch police have also changed the name they use from “boy racers” to “anti-social road users”.
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June 6, 2019 6:39pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jack5 , as a matter of interest are there “Muslim” boy racers?
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:30pm
  - sooty
    
    No, but there are some goat jockeys, maybe they could race!
    
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    June 6, 2019 9:43pm
  - Jack5
    
    Stephie, there was one who planned to cause a bit of car mayhem, but I heard he’s taken up golf instead.
    
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    June 6, 2019 10:27pm
Alien

What an idiotic princess, cares more about one of the worst budgets this country has seen in a long time

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/andrew-dickens-afternoons/audio/should-jacinda-ardern-have-been-at-d-day-celebrations/

“Andrew Dickens asked why neither of them had gone to the event, when other world leaders – including Australia’s Scott Morrison – had attended.

Dickens noted that, as far as he could see, Ardern had not attended a D-Day events in New Zealand, which left him “surprised and horrified”.

“I want to find out what she thinks is so important on the 75th anniversary of D-Day that she should be in Marlborough talking about her budget and not at the National War Memorial. It seems like the call is getting worse.” “
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June 6, 2019 7:39pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  BBC giving full service of the 75th anniversay at Bayeux Cathedral at the moment….Home of the Commonwealth Graves.
  
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  June 6, 2019 8:18pm
MickMac

https://countrysquire.co.uk/2019/06/06/the-blind-labour-timebomb/

LabourUK waiting in the wings.
Why couldn’t the Tories have honoured the people’s decision.

It’s like National being Labour-lite here.
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