General Debate 06 September 2019

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calendar girl

For a late riser like me, this is my only chance ever to make the first comment on ‘General Debate’. Greetings all!
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September 6, 2019 1:13pm
- Biscuit
  
  Drattedy drat, calendar girl, you beat me by one.
  
  Consider your chances of getting a Christmas Card to now be extinguished!
  
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  September 6, 2019 1:41pm
  - Biscuit
    
    And, sheesh, I see some sad sack has downticked your debut Numero Uno post, calendar girl.
    
    Lest you think that were me, it weren’t!
    
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    September 6, 2019 2:04pm
    - calendar girl
      
      Don’t worry, Biscuit. Just somebody having a rough day, so let’s hope it improves for him (or her).
      
      Now, seeing your 2:04pm post and its single down-tick, I fear that nothing may have had the effect of lifting his (or her) day.
      
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      September 6, 2019 2:57pm
- RightNow
  
  I thought DPF must have outsourced posting GD to Labour, and they had to have a working group on how to post it.
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:51pm
Biscuit

:: Resists the temptation to compare the delivery of General Debate today with the underwhelming progress towards completion of the (insert name of any Coalition of Losers programme) ::
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September 6, 2019 1:17pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  The difference is that tomorrow the GD will very likely be on time.
  
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  September 6, 2019 1:27pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    It will be today’s GD, but reset
    
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    September 6, 2019 2:59pm
    - sooty
      
      Hughie tried that and got told off!
      
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      September 6, 2019 6:16pm
burt

Remember people, it’s Friday night. Get out and about, get drunk and push your hand down other peoples pants – just make sure your Labour party membership is up to date and you’ll almost certainly end up with permanent name suppression and at worst a charge for common assault – but even that may be quashed.
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September 6, 2019 1:18pm
- burt
  
  Oh, just remember if anyone you abuse is under 16 the charges related to them will be dropped so you don’t need to worry about ending up on the kiddy fiddler register. Have fun, your party will protect you!
  
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  September 6, 2019 1:31pm
  - John Warren
    
    Ssshhh! There will be a rush of paedophiles joining the Labour Party.
    
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    September 6, 2019 1:59pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      They are already there
      
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      September 6, 2019 2:40pm
      - sooty
        
        Along with Cindys own rapist on the nineth floor
        
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        September 6, 2019 6:18pm
- niggly
  
  Will the MeToo movement and Green Party politicians organise a march to protest against yet another law firm that not only condones and minimises sexual assault, but also blatantly blames the victims?
  
  I’m referring to the perpetrator’s lawyers Emma Priest and John Munro…. or are they “off-bounds” because of their connections to individuals connected to the NZ Labour Party?
  
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  September 6, 2019 1:32pm
  - calendar girl
    
    The two legal representatives involved, Emma Priest & John Munro, are not in the same “law firm”. Each of them is a barrister (a bit different from acting as a solicitor). Their contact details can be found at the following websites:
    
    https://emmapriest.co.nz/
    
    https://www.criminallawyersnz.co.nz/
    
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    September 6, 2019 2:24pm
  - kowtow
    
    Metoo is not and never has been about the ‘victims” , same with BLM and so many other # activist movements.
    
    It’s about attacking the “patriarchy” . Only patriarchy perpetrators will be targetted .
    It’s also about the hashers , “look a me , look a me , I’m so woke “
    
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    September 6, 2019 2:40pm
  - fernglas
    
    Based on the pleas the Crown was prepared to accept, I would say that they have done an excellent job of ensuring that the integrity of the MeToo movement is not sullied by the Court continuing to hear unprovable charges of a sexual nature.
    
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    September 6, 2019 5:47pm
- Biscuit
  
  burt, me and the partner are off to the Chook House in Wellington tonight to catch an NZSO concert.
  
  Rachmaninov Piano Concerto No. 2 in C minor, Op. 18
  Richard Strauss Tod und Verklärung, Op. 24 (Death and Transfiguration)
  Wagner Overture to Tannhäuser, WWV 70
  
  I will report tomorrow on how I fare should I dare push a hand into (or even across) any of my partner’s intimate areas!
  
  I just hope my eyes don’t get so bruised I can’t see much of the NZL-TON Rugby game tomorrow arvo…
  
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  September 6, 2019 1:45pm
  - pdm
    
    ……..but, but Biscuit -Hawkes Bay are playing Southland at 7.35pmto night. Is it a matinee you are attending or are you recording the big match.
    
    God forbid Southland should break their NPC drought.
    
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    September 6, 2019 2:02pm
    - Biscuit
      
      It was a real dilemma, pdm.
      
      ‘Noise’ or ‘Magpies’?
      
      But I know how to keep you-know-who non-psychotic!
      
      ‘Kick-off’ is 6.30pm.
      
      Yep, recording will feature. Surely the Bay will get home, no? By, oh, 30?
      
      Will tape the later game too…
      
      Boks vs Japan at 10.15pm, too.
      
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      September 6, 2019 2:23pm
    - Garbageman
      
      We are hopefully not going to lose our 26th game which is sad stat for a proud rugby province, like many smaller towns we seem to lose most of our upcoming talent to the larger organisations and Otago when they go to varsity not that i am offering excuses an 80-0 loss to the Cantabs was pure humiliation and unacceptable at this level of rugby
      
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      September 6, 2019 3:05pm
- Jules99
  
  I feel sorry for the young men who are innocent, but under suspicion because the guilty person’s name is withheld. And no, I have no idea who it is.
  
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  September 6, 2019 3:22pm
  - sooty
    
    It’s like all comedians, because of one kiddyfiddler!
    But then the kiwi way is to penalise the rest because off the actions of a few!
    
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    September 6, 2019 6:24pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Care about Climate Change?

Then it might be time to reassess cannibalism…
https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/09/05/cannibalism-professor-says-eating-human-flesh-will-save-planet-from-climate-change/

https://www.rt.com/news/467685-cannibalism-promoted-by-academics/
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September 6, 2019 1:25pm
- alloytoo
  
  Soylent Green is people.
  
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  September 6, 2019 1:27pm
- Random T Person
  
  More proof academics don’t live in the real world.
  
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  September 6, 2019 1:28pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Only if you eat ~~your~~ the Greens.
  
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  September 6, 2019 1:30pm
  - Nick R
    
    Comment of the day!
    
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    September 6, 2019 1:51pm
- kowtow
  
  Bernie Sanders thinks poor black/ brown babies should be killed to protect the climate. But that would mean less food . Oh the quandary.
  
  “Empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable campaign to enact,” she began.
  
  “Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe?”
  
  Mr Sanders, who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination to face President Donald Trump in the November 2020 election, replied: “Well, Martha, the answer is yes. ”
  
  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49601678
  
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  September 6, 2019 1:46pm
  - Albert_Ross
    
    Curbing population growth doesn’t require killing babies. It requires liberating and empowering women through education.
    
    Are you opposed to that?
    
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    September 6, 2019 2:07pm
  - The King
    
    So where’s the lie? scroll a few posts up and your elites are telling us we should consider eating human meat, they’re saying this for reason.
    
    Of course the elites wont be eating humans, only you goyim.
    
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    September 6, 2019 2:14pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘Climate catastrophe’!
    
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    September 6, 2019 2:21pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Here’s the real catastrophe. When adherence to Alarmist scaremongering causes policy decisions to put an entire Countries energy supply and economy at risk
      
      ‘A new report by consulting giant McKinsey finds that Germany’s Energiewende, or energy transition to renewables, poses a significant threat to the nation’s economy and energy supply.
      One of Germany’s largest newspapers, Die Welt, summarized the findings of the McKinsey report in a single word: “disastrous.”‘
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/09/05/renewables-threaten-german-economy-energy-supply-mckinsey-warns-in-new-report/#60a735768e48
      
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      September 6, 2019 2:48pm
- chaos
  
  Strangely enough, no I don’t care about the climate change myth. Does that mean I don’t have to eat humans because a lot of them are so full of shit I hate to think what they taste like.
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:06pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I have sampled one or two, smokers are the worst
    
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    September 6, 2019 3:03pm
  - The King
    
    Just eat the damn human burger, bigot!
    
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    September 6, 2019 6:42pm
- Scott
  
  https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/ban-everything.php
  
  Powerline has helpfully given us a compendium of everything that the Democrat party wants to ban. That includes plastic straws, conventional light bulbs, the internal combustion engine, oil and gas exploration and limiting the populations of the world.
  So they want to ban everything from plastic straws to people. All this to combat “climate change”.
  
  The article says that if America enacts this agenda it is goodbye to freedom and prosperity. As NZers who have seen our government ban oil and gas exploration, new coal mines, new hydro electric development and wants us to get rid of petrol driven cars in favour of electric cars, we are in a good position to comment.
  
  Our business confidence is way down. The full effects of these measures are not seen yet but it is not outrageous to see that we are heading in the direction of Venezuela. Our freedom and prosperity are at risk. Let’s not say goodbye to them because of overzealous leftists who are manufacturing a “climate change” crisis.
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:12pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Whatever are the robots going to have left to eat?
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:24pm
- tf78
  
  So, as we all need our veges, you’d start with the vegans, then the vego’s, then for desert greens.
  
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  September 6, 2019 4:33pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Considering becoming a full-time vegie eater?

Think again….
https://news.sky.com/story/vegan-and-vegetarian-diet-could-increase-stroke-risk-study-says-11802511
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September 6, 2019 1:27pm
- alloytoo
  
  Imagine the Suicide rate if we all became vegans.
  
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  September 6, 2019 1:34pm
- chaos
  
  Nope, the very thought of eating those poor vegetables and them screaming out in pain leaves me only able to eat meat
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:36pm
- RightNow
  
  I look forward to the lobbying for taxes on vegetables from the quackademics.
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:56pm
- David George
  
  That’s if you even make it to adulthood Maggy.
  Did you read about that little vegan Aussie baby; twenty months old, 4.8kg weight, no teeth, no talk, no walk, can’t even roll over and the vacant stare of a zombie. Dangerous idiot vegans!
  
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  September 6, 2019 3:46pm
Paulus

Having been listening recently to the faults of our Taxpayer owned Southern Response Insurance in Christchurch I have been asked the question.
“Why did people insure with AMI in the first place ?”.
Because it was cheaper than all the other Insurance Companies.
Unlike all the other Insurance Companies AMI was a Mutual – that is wholly owned by the Policyholders.
And as such it had no Capital to fall back on, only its Reinsurers overseas in the event of a major catastrophe as we saw, and its owners – the policyholders.
Therefore it possibly correctly should be the responsibility to settle losses falling to those people of Christchurch and elsewhere who bought AMI Policies.
Southern Response was set up only to appease the politicians and those who bought substandard cheap insurance cover.
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September 6, 2019 1:34pm
- Ed Snack
  
  What’s more, AMI had in the years before the quake, made a concerted “push” into the Canterbury area to gain market share – so they were over-represented relatively speaking. Add to that the fact that AMI cut prices to get into the market, and you finish up with a minor disaster.
  
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  September 6, 2019 1:59pm
kowtow

Stuff are really pushing Shoal Bay as a local example of climate catastrophism . A story today and one a few months ago.
Headline claims Rising seas cause the flooding but the land there is low lying reclaimed estuary with a creek running through it, so when there’s a king tide and the wind in the right direction where’s the creek water to go ?

Not climate change and rising seas , just local conditions and local environment.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/115526777/little-shoal-bay-rising-sea-levels-and-storm-surges-cause-flooding-on-aucklands-north-shore
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September 6, 2019 1:37pm
- John Warren
  
  It’s funny how the sea seems to be rising in some places and not others. Where I grew up, a coastal community that I frequently visit to this day, I can’t see any sign of sea level rise at all. When I’m there I walk around the rocky shores I first explored nearly 50 years ago and every fissure, crevice, outcrop and cave is the same as it has always been. The tidelines are the same, and the times (in relation to the tides) that you can walk around certain areas are just the same.
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:05pm
- Evadne
  
  It’s neither a climate catastrophe, nor an environmental disaster. It’s business as usual.
  
  Little Shoal Bay was a tidal swamp long before landfill made it a park.
  
  Successive councils have mucked about with it for decades, trying to resolve the floods and drainage. Locals just roll their eyes at whatever new scheme the incumbents come up with.
  
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  September 6, 2019 3:34pm
Chuck Bird

For those living in the Waikato especially north of Hamilton, there will be a National Party meeting in Huntly today at 6 pm at the RSA. Mark Mitchell, Spokesperson for Justice will be the guest speaker.

I will be asking him if he thinks it just that a man can stick his hand down teenage boys pants and fondle their private parts even briefly and have a backroom plea bargain made reducing the charge of indecent assault to common assault?
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September 6, 2019 1:39pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  Who are the deviants who down ticked?
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:18pm
  - sooty
    
    Labour party members and Morrisey!
    
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    September 6, 2019 6:30pm
Tricati

I see Bernie Monk on another tangent seeking an inquiring into the destruction of evidence from Pike River. It appears that after the Royal Commission and Police enquiry, it was deemed there was no requirement to keep the evidence, so it was got rid of.
Could this be another smoke screen, as Monk (et:al) knows that Work Safe are not going to give an exemption to the Health & Safety legislation due to valid Safety concerns, and re-entry is going no-where.
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September 6, 2019 1:47pm
- igm
  
  A political pawn being used to appease Labour voters on the coast for aborting their hydro dam.
  
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  September 6, 2019 4:32pm
103PapPap

Here’s a couple of things Simon could announce that would help him get elected:
Declare that Maori trusts would lose their charitable status and would be taxed on their profits.
Make the use of the words ‘meat’ and ‘dairy’ and ‘milk’ and ‘cheese’ only applicable to products produced from animals.
And I’m sure there’s lots more.
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September 6, 2019 1:52pm
- MCos
  
  Probably a path any government would be reluctant to go down due to unintended consequences.
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:29pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  The tax freedom of those Trust is an offence against community equity. An economy needs to grow so the tax take can provide for all. Pensions don’t come out of thin air.
  
  Suggest a 5 year phase phase in period for tax sheltered trusts. The tax could be equally lifted 20% each year till the full amount was being paid.
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:36pm
Tony Stuart

Well done to Customs for a methamphetamine bust. They’ve found half a tonne of P hidden in electric motors, with a street value estimated at $235m, and made three arrests.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12265466

Someone’s not going to be happy.
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September 6, 2019 2:05pm
- Biscuit
  
  Might be the wrong word to use, Tony, but I’m ECSTATIC at news like that, heh heh,
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:13pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Let’s hope it was not 475KG and some has gone missing
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:48pm
- toby1845
  
  I understand that Customs have offered the Labour Youth Camp kiddie fiddler a job, rummaging for crack in incoming passengers’ underpants.
  
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  September 7, 2019 4:56am
alloytoo

Does anyone else use Microsoft news aggregation on Edge.

For the past few weeks I’ve noticed that the articles in edge homepage carry different headlines to the article in Newshub and that those headlines appear to be deliberately slandering National.

Anybody else noticed this?
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September 6, 2019 2:05pm
- chaos
  
  I use edge but with a speed dial so don’t notice the news. Will have a quick look. Ah right the msn feed.
  
  It’s different. It is on newshub worse, for example the msn feed says. “National doesn’t want swimmable water – ganer”
  
  Newshub says “national scaremongering over water policy”
  
  Many of them are the same that newshub runs, seems msn tone down some of them.
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:28pm
  - tf78
    
    I started to read National’s water policy a few years ago and gave up after an hour – it was so detailed and really good objectives and policies. I wonder whether COL have bothered looking at it or just copied and pasted, that’s if they even have one.
    
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    September 6, 2019 4:46pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  If Microsoft are party to political advertising against a NZ political party they should be called to account.
  
  Hard to stop the use of their browser but an administrative ban on the operations of MS in NZ may be possible. Close their offices, sales staff etc…
  These shenanigans have to be stopped.
  
  Westpac is warning their customers the Edge is not fit for purpose to access bank accounts.
  
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  September 6, 2019 2:42pm
  - rangitoto
    
    I read a while back that Microsoft are replacing Edge with a new browser based on Google Chrome but will still be called Edge. Never use the thing myself. I mostly use either Firefox or Chromium (the later being Chrome without the google spyware)
    
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    September 6, 2019 4:10pm
    - chaos
      
      It’s a good browser, I prefer it over chrome as they have placed some good tracking prevention in it. I find it better than Firefox now.
      
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      September 6, 2019 5:03pm
Cobolt24

Stanley Group and related company Tallwood placed in liquidation
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/115579344/auckland-construction-firm-liquidated
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Tower Cranes placed in receivership:
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12265249
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September 6, 2019 2:25pm
- Swifty
  
  Even when using another KB name he still can’t resist spamming us with duplicates.
  
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  September 6, 2019 3:34pm
- Swifty
  
  Mods – Hugh’s laughing at you while giving you the finger.
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/09/general_debate_5_september_2019.html#comment-2552122
  
  The same finger he’s been giving us for years.
  
  How many more chances will he get? He’s just had another warning for this same thing earlier this week.
  
  And now he’s doing it with a duplicate profile!
  
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  September 6, 2019 4:35pm
  - Cobolt24
    
    Ugh… I am not hugh. I do reply to posts with him though since he likes financial and housing news. I only reposted that today due to GD being late yesterday and by the time I got to my computer most KBloggers have gone off
    
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    September 6, 2019 11:43pm
chaos

Good article worth the read

Forget the Russians: It’s the Federal Reserve Seeking to Meddle in Our Elections
written by ron paul

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2019/september/02/forget-the-russians-it-s-the-federal-reserve-seeking-to-meddle-in-our-elections/
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September 6, 2019 2:31pm
RW Capitalist

It’s Friday, so here goes.
I was walking past a monastery when I saw a guy Frying chips.
I asked
Are you the Friar?
He said no
I’m the Chip Monk.
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September 6, 2019 2:59pm
Maggie Pie

WOWWEE – sooo looking forwrad to having the next 3 nights off!
Just finished having a real boozie lunch with a couple of gurlfriends 🙂
Ask me something.
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September 6, 2019 3:16pm
- chaos
  
  Sure, do you realise you have a message calling you in to work tonight….
  
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  September 6, 2019 3:38pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    alwayz prepared 24/7 of course 🙂
    
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    September 6, 2019 3:53pm
    - chaos
      
      I’m guessing a few days binging you’d still be more sober than most the weekend patients
      
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      September 6, 2019 4:59pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Anything?
  
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  September 6, 2019 7:07pm
kowtow

13 years for manslaughter and kidnap , the judge could have given him life , it’s not as if he’s not got form.

” Wilson is a former gang leader who is on life parole with previous convictions, including murder, rape and ag robbery.”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/398253/mclaren-falls-death-man-jailed-for-13-years

Who’s side are the courts on ?
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September 6, 2019 3:32pm
Happychappy

I see Winston Peter’s has used over 90 million dollars out of the PGF to get Rail in Northland up to speed. Winston must be getting worried about NZ First voting base after the water rules for farmers and waterways that need to be cleaned up, so has decided to go all out to get the Northland vote from National. I think farmers need to make a strong point that Winston Peter’s is not a friend of farmers and needs to their vote to rid him from NZ Politics.
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September 6, 2019 3:33pm
- Tarquin North
  
  Victorian technology isn’t much of a vote buyer up this way. Give us the highway we were promised and you allowed the Greens to stop. Even that won’t work up here, everyone in Northland knows Jones is a wanker.
  
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  September 6, 2019 3:53pm
- chaos
  
  Got to get the billion trees up there somehow.
  
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  September 6, 2019 4:50pm
Tarquin North

There is a picture of Uenuku Fairhall the struck off disgraced teacher who was sleeping naked with kids in Mexico on RNZ news. Nothing new there, but the amazing part is how much he looks like Andrew Little but slightly older. I haven’t posted a link as I’m having a few technology issues here at the moment but if you want a good laugh go and have a look.
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September 6, 2019 4:01pm
calendar girl

It appears from this “Stuff” article that the now-fairly-common expression “moko” (for a Maori facial tattoo) may soon become rendered generally as “tā moko”.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/115582051/man-with-t-moko-turned-away-from-melbourne-restaurant

From my perspective, there seems to be more and more pressure for our population at large to use, adopt, or be exposed to more Maori words, names or other expressions as part of our principal New Zealand official language.

The form or content of Maori communications within the Maori-speaking community does not concern me. But I fear the prospect, over time, of English-speaking New Zealanders losing part of their ability to speak English coherently with people of other nations within which English is the first or sole means of verbal communication.
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September 6, 2019 4:05pm
- hookerphil
  
  As a South Islander I often feel that many North Islanders, say some of those rugby players interviewed after a game, already speak a different English to what I am used to.
  
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  September 6, 2019 5:50pm
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND: MOVING ON FROM THE KIWIBUILD FIASCO …

Where to now as KiwiBuild dust settles? … Dr Eric Crampton … Newsroom

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/09/06/793927/where-to-now-as-kiwibuild-dust-settles#

The victory of Labour over itself in abandoning the sunk cost of KiwiBuild could mark the end of the beginning of the war on the housing crisis – but only if councils can stop seeing growth as a cost rather than as a benefit. … read more via hyperlink above …
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WHAT LESSONS ARE BEING LEARNT FROM SELWYN AND WAIMAKARIRI COUNCILS … WITH THEIR CONSISTENTLY HIGH CONSENTS RATES PER 1000 POPULATION PER ANNUM ? …

… If all Councils performed like these two, we would not have an unnecessary housing crisis …

Statistics NZ … Building Consents Issued … July 2019

https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/building-consents-issued-july-2019

… check graphs 5 & 6 …

http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/2017%20Information.html
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September 6, 2019 5:16pm
Maggie Pie

my partners mum just tweeted @ 5-12PM:

BOB MUGABE DEAD 🙂 🙂 🙂
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September 6, 2019 5:16pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  My mate Dave will finally be able to leave Zimbabwe soon. He always vowed and declared he wouldn’t leave until he had danced on Mugabe’s grave!
  
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  September 6, 2019 5:26pm
- chaos
  
  Oh no, who will labour have a guest speaker at the next youth camp now?
  
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  September 6, 2019 6:37pm
bill ramsay

I see that Mugabe has just carked it.

Hell just got a little warmer.
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September 6, 2019 5:17pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  the worlds’s truly evil men have a habit of living to happy old age don’t they? How many thousands is Mugabe responsible for killing?
  
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  September 6, 2019 5:24pm
- RRM
  
  For some reason I picture Dave Dobbyn as the special gatekeeper of hell for people like Mugabe.
  
  Standing on a prominent rock above the flames, wailing:
  
  I bid you welcome,
  I bid you welcome,
  RRRRUUUUUWWWWWEEEEEEEEEERRRRRLLLLCCARRME HOOOOOOUUUOOOUUUMMMMEEE!
  
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  September 6, 2019 11:07pm
kowtow

Genocidal Mugabe dead.
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September 6, 2019 5:19pm
- greybeard
  
  Oh dear.
  How sad.
  Never mind.
  
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  September 6, 2019 6:17pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/115608267/exvictim-support-area-manager-jailed-14-years-for-raping-boy

When I see that a judge has reduced the sentence for this sort of crime it makes me think that the judge is a fellow-traveller of the accused.
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September 6, 2019 5:30pm
- fernglas
  
  Rubbish Those are two standard reductions from an otherwise stern sentence.
  
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  September 6, 2019 5:54pm
  - kowtow
    
    And “standard reductions” rubbish sentencing.
    
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    September 6, 2019 6:20pm
Richard

Mugabe is dead (Good News!) but Zimbabwe remains a wreck with no real democracy and up to their eyballs in debt to the Chinese.
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September 6, 2019 5:44pm
chaos

Hmmmm, apparently international passengers arriving in Auckland are not being told there is a measles epidemic in Auckland when arriving. Why is the USA state department advising Americans but out own government cannot be bothered to tell people arriving here
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September 6, 2019 6:32pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  And now exceeds 880 cases reported in Auckland this year 🙁
  
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  September 6, 2019 6:54pm
  - chaos
    
    And I see warnings have been released about Wellington.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/115589590/wellington-and-auckland-plane-passengers-and-te-papa-visitors-at-risk-of-measles
    
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    September 6, 2019 8:17pm
tranquil

Hi all –
I’m currently reading two *excellent* books by Dinesh D’Souza – “Death of a Nation – Plantation Politics and the Making of the Democratic Party” and “The Big Lie – Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left”.

Both are *really good reads!*

We *desperately* need people like D’Souza in New Zealand. He would *tear strips* off our media and our so-called “Prime Minister” and others on the Left.
Ardern would probably last about 30 seconds in a debate with him. His videos on YouTube in which he destroys leftists are must-see viewing!
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September 6, 2019 7:27pm
- softail 1450
  
  Tranquil, It amazes me you are so uninformed ,we do have our own D’souza his name is Patrick Gower surely you saw his cutting edge stuff on “white supremacy” in NZ? and you have obviously also forgotten Alison Mau and Hack Tame FFS,not to mention those super journalists John Campbell and Drunken Garner we are very well served in our Country when it comes to journalists.
  
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  September 7, 2019 6:25am
Maggy Wassilieff

Great News for Academic Freedom and the right to criticise Lousy “Climate Science”

James Cook Uni ordered to pay $1.2m to Peter Ridd. Judge Vasta is scathing.
http://joannenova.com.au/2019/09/breaking-james-cook-uni-ordered-to-pay-1-2m-to-peter-ridd-judge-vasta-is-scathing/
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September 6, 2019 8:20pm
- rangitoto
  
  I see that the ratbags are appealing the decision.
  
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  September 6, 2019 9:11pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Mother needs to take 3 year-old to Auckland for specialist clinic.
Child needs another Measles vaccination
But no supply in Bay of Plenty.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12265445
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September 6, 2019 9:13pm
- chaos
  
  WTF. No supply because the ministry of health paused distribution. And still no dr David Clark. Moron should be fired
  
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  September 6, 2019 9:27pm

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