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I remember when

“White supremacy exists in New Zealand”
So does “Black Power”.
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June 2, 2020 8:01am
- MT_Tinman
  
  NZ is seriously contaminated with racism to the point where we could accurately be called an apartheid country but black power is a joke.
  
  In New Zealand it’s light-brown skin of the right type that matters, no one else counts (except for their wallets).
  
  As the leftie white man imitator was told in no uncertain terms being half-brown ain’t black.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:28am
MT_Tinman

UV light has been proved to kill corona virus.

We can safely conclude that the hole in the Ozone layer has saved more lives than the dictatorship!
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June 2, 2020 8:02am
- Mike
  
  “supposing you brought the light inside the body”…
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:40am
  - Prince
    
    Wah ! Mike’s recommending inserting light bulbs in everyone. This is dangerous. Please everybody, despite what Mike says, and David’s blog repeats, DO NOT PUT LIGHT BULBS IN YOUR BODY.
    
    Siouxsie can you please twitter everyone about this.
    
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    June 2, 2020 10:37am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Anecdotally lightbulbs have been removed from the odd rectum.
      https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/14/getting-freaky-doctors-actually-remove-light-bulb-rectum-vagina-8622313/
      
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      June 2, 2020 12:38pm
  - rouppe
    
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6122858/
    
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    June 2, 2020 10:56am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Yes, that’s not a bad idea. In fact there are several devices designed to do just that, and these are in testing as a potential treatment for Corona Virus infections.
    
    Since this is scientific fact and under investigation, what was your point Mike ? That Trump looks further and more clearly than you ?
    
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    June 2, 2020 11:03am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Or, more likely, it massively decreases the amount of time it stays on surfaces and decreases the viral load we are exposed to, resulting in a significant advantage to us where our R number is much lower than most other countries.
    
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    June 2, 2020 11:33am
- krazykiwi
  
  UV also helps our bodies generate vitamin D which is positivity correlated with resistance to the virus. So cowering indoors in fearful acceptance of the dictatorship’s demands has been unhelpful to, quite literally, millions of NZers
  
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  June 2, 2020 9:17am
- Justitia
  
  Correct. Our Indian summer and drought did the job here, as a beautiful warm Spring is now doing in Europe. Jacinda was just an unpleasant and annoying distraction, and is increasingly so.
  
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  June 2, 2020 11:09am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  This might be totally stupid but from what I’ve read, corona virus gets into you via either the mouth, nose or eyes. Putting high intensity UV light into you eyes is probably not a good idea but putting that UV into your mouth or nose is not likely to hurt you.
  
  This is reactive medicine while proactive medicine might be to use UV to sterilize your infected parts before you touch your eyes, mouth or nose.
  
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  June 2, 2020 6:52pm
Paulus Gnome

Trevor Richards of HART (remember them?) writes a thoughtful and readable piece about racism in New Zealand never Aotearoa

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/columnists/121641531/racial-division-in-new-zealand-is-permanently-built-in

An article making Stuff worth the $1.00
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June 2, 2020 8:04am
- Albert_Ross
  
  It is a thoughtful and readable piece, but it’s not by Trevor Richards, it’s by Karl du Fresne (fabulously, autocorreceted to Karl Dumbledore Fresne before I overruled).
  
  I would like to see a similarly thoughtful and reasoned response from Trevor Richards, or the Commissioner, but I won’t be holding my breath.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:25am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    My apologies, you are right however, I am pleased that you read it, perhaps paying attention to detail better than I did.
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:39am
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      The difference between Karl and the next gen iChild ‘reporters’ who can’t spell.
      
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      June 2, 2020 9:39am
    - Jack5
      
      A taste of the du Fresne article for those who haven’t read it:
      
      We have moved down a path to a form of institutionalised separatism so well-entrenched that people barely notice it.
      
      We have separate Maori streams in public policy formation, an unelected and inscrutable iwi leaders’ forum that exerts influence at the highest levels of government, Maori control over lakes and rivers, Maori media that confuse journalism with advocacy, special courts for Maori youth and “cultural reports” for Maori defendants, preferential quotas for Maori medical trainees and elaborate mechanisms for iwi engagement on major public projects, regardless of whether they specifically impact on Maori.
      
      Paulus in his post above supplies the link to the article.
      
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      June 2, 2020 10:57am
- kowtow
  
  Karl Du Fresne wrote it.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:27am
  - pdm
    
    If Karl wrote it it will be well worth reading.
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:37am
- stewmar
  
  An article making Stuff worth the $1.00
  
  Outstanding article DuFresne points out the elephant in the room
  
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  June 2, 2020 9:19am
- Prince
  
  Suggest you give the $1 to Karl – his blogs are always worth reading.
  http://karldufresne.blogspot.com/
  
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  June 2, 2020 10:39am
Mike

Happy International Sex Workers Day!
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June 2, 2020 8:04am
- JibberJabber
  
  You having the day off Mikey?
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:19am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    He’s not that talented mate.
    A blowhard job is about it.
    
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    June 2, 2020 9:36am
- Tarquin North
  
  How many free tricks will you be doing to celebrate? Asking for a friend of course.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:20am
  - Mike
    
    What would your friend like to do?
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:42am
    - sooty
      
      Some sense, would be good.
      
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      June 2, 2020 10:17am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Lets give them a hand . . .
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:39am
- IC5000
  
  Really? I guess I should make a contribution in these harsh times then.
  
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  June 2, 2020 10:51am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Are sex workers happy?
  
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  June 2, 2020 12:43pm
Michael NZ

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/06/our_current_chaos_is_not_all_about_the_death_of_george_floyd.html

Yeah all the rioters are looting because they are standing up for George Floyd
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June 2, 2020 8:04am
- Mike
  
  1. The protests are of a large scale and very widespread
  2. Not all protesters are rioting
  3. Not all rioters are looting
  4. Any breakdown in law and order will inevitably lead to criminals taking advantage.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:18am
  - Michael NZ
    
    Is it orchestrated?
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:25am
    - Mike
      
      Some will be. Protests don’t generally organise themselves. Organised rioting and looting would be much rarer.
      
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      June 2, 2020 8:43am
      - Jack5
        
        Mike, why do you change your pseudonym? I think this is the second time in a year you have changed.
        
        Are you a retired spook and can’t change the habit?
        
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        June 2, 2020 11:04am
      - Mike
        
        Logging in through Patreon automatically changed it.
        
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        June 2, 2020 1:24pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      Yes, next question ?
      
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      June 2, 2020 11:04am
  - emmess
    
    They are not being generally speaking unruly says Mike (as the building burns behind him)
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:31am
    - sooty
      
      Those pallets of bricks were in the right spot at the right time!
      
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      June 2, 2020 9:11am
      - Nickc2
        
        A George Soros gift?
        
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        June 2, 2020 12:06pm
      - sooty
        
        Wonder if they will go back in time and review the CCTV footage and se who delivered the bricks!
        
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        June 2, 2020 12:28pm
  - MT_Tinman
    
    As someone has mentioned Mr Floyd perhaps they can help me; How does someone who cannot breath make themselves heard, several times and from a significant distance, above the general noise of a street arrest?
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:34am
    - Lance
      
      Breathing with great difficulty (due to knee on the neck) is very physically demanding and eventually the victim will run out of energy to resist it and suffocate.
      That is how crucifixion kills, the Romans used it because it was excruciating.
      
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      June 2, 2020 9:45am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Yet if the coroner is to be believed, he didn’t die of suffocation, but of a pre-existing heart condition exacerbated by substance ingestion that caused actual heart failure. Correct ? Not sure, but that’s what was reported.
        
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        June 2, 2020 11:07am
      - Engelbert Humperdink
        
        That is not how crucifixion kills. Crucifixion kills by making it impossible to keep breathing by progressive inability to expand the chest, unless the victim could push up with his feet. That’s why soldiers sometimes broke legs, to be merciful – for a faster death. Crucifixion does nothing to the neck.
        
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        June 2, 2020 3:21pm
      - Batman
        
        You’ve just described a vertical version of being slowly suffocated via gravity…
        
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        June 2, 2020 5:06pm
  - stewmar
    
    Call for an enquiry and a review
    
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    June 2, 2020 9:20am
    - Nickc2
      
      @Ed Snack
      Sorry Ed, I hit ‘report’ by mistake.
      However, the family of the deceased called for an ‘independent’ autopsy which allegedly found Ford’s death was due to suffocation/asphyxiation. You will need to make your own decision.
      Whatever the cause, I doubt it’s sufficient to cause mass riots and looting. Even Ford’s brother has been reported as espousing the same sentiments.
      
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      June 2, 2020 12:15pm
- MCos
  
  Like these people
  https://twitter.com/amysrosenberg/status/1267227137628610561?s=21
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:24am
  - Mike
    
    That look on one’s face when exiting the shop with some loot only to meet a police officer…
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:45am
    - IC5000
      
      Two black dudes outside the store on their phones while three whites break in and loot.
      
      David Garrett needs to explain again why he thinks that non-whites have a propensity for criminality lol.
      
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      June 2, 2020 10:57am
      - Mike
        
        Crisis actors trying to make whites look bad?
        
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        June 2, 2020 1:26pm
      - Batman
        
        Ahhh yes, the classic ‘crisis actor’
        
        They must have fantastic airpoints balances!
        
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        June 2, 2020 2:11pm
      - cmm
        
        By your logic Winston Peters and Irene van Dyk prove that women are generally taller than men.
        
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        June 2, 2020 2:04pm
      - MH
        
        phoning up to get more protesters to come and loot. probably the whites were the owners trying to rescue goods.
        
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        June 2, 2020 3:43pm
  - Inandout
    
    MCos, Americans love shopping; by any means.
    
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    June 2, 2020 9:55am
- Simon
  
  The rioting scum, who loot or destroy are giving a massive boost for Trump re election, second amendment & ending lockdowns.
  
  Dem states, Dem cities & Dem controlled police have failed. The armed wing of the Dems, Anitfa are outlawed.
  
  No one is talking about Biden.
  
  The Wuhna virus is over.
  
  Trump wins again.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:51am
  - IC5000
    
    Has he come out of his bunker yet?
    
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    June 2, 2020 10:58am
    - Simon
      
      “Has he come out of his bunker yet”
      
      Lol – Its been 5 years and still haven’t learnt. Give it up.
      
      President Trump walks to St. John’s Church in D.C
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pnmW-ANY3c
      
      Trump wins again.
      
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      June 2, 2020 11:50am
      - IC5000
        
        Must be on the way to the golf course.
        
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        June 2, 2020 12:19pm
      - Batman
        
        Oh Simon, you poor deluded soul.
        
        Trump hasn’t won big. He has done exactly the opposite.
        
        He came out and made an unhelpful speech which was, as always, aimed solely at his base. All while set to the background noise of the Federal Police (not DC, so a WH decision) tear gassing protesters right outside.
        
        He specifically mentioned the 2nd amendment in a dog whistle to the proud boys and minute men-type groups who have been waiting for their culture war to begin for years.
        
        Then it turns out that the forced crowd clearing was intentional in order to give him a photo opportunity where he stood outside the church posing with a Bible like a low rent Putin wannabe. Cloaking himself in religion, which he does not believe in, to try and take a moral high ground and nod to the evangelicals.
        
        As with his earlier tweets, he has abandoned the role of President and has gone back to Republican primary politics, which is how he operates. It gives people like you, his base, the jollies and revs them up for the culture war in their minds. On the other hand, it alienates moderates, swing voters, women, and suburban voters.
        
        A new poll today shows him trailing Biden by 12% in a head to head match up.
        
        By contrast, Biden has called for calm, sympathised with the family beyond what Trump could manage, and has appeared responsible.
        
        If you think Trump is winning at the moment, you cannot possibly be taken seriously.
        
        Trump looks like an authoritarian who uses force against his fellow citizens because people made fun of him for being whisked into the bunked (which I will point out will have been a secret service decision and not his).
        
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        June 2, 2020 1:28pm
      - IC5000
        
        Just been following his messaging which is confused,
        
        First he’s threatening people who are protesting then he’s begging them to calm down and that he is listening to their concerns.
        
        He’s looking confused and weak.
        
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        June 2, 2020 1:41pm
fernglas

When will the PM and the D-G of Health come clean and tell the 4 million New Zealanders who are afraid of catching Covid-19 that if they get it, it is unlikely to harm them, that up to half of them may have no symptoms, and unless they are over 80 with co-morbidities such as morbid obesity, heart conditions or diabetes, it will not kill them or require them to be hospitalised? Or are we being kept in fear so their social manipulation can continue. Where is the media in all this? Have we seen one article about a survivor? Someone who was not killed by the virus? Or are they simply content to hum along to the Ardern playlist?
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June 2, 2020 8:06am
- KevO'Brien
  
  It’s fear that keeps the people on the ground
  It’s fear that turns our commies round
  To seize the power that rightfully theirs
  To relieve the people of those fears.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:23am
- MCos
  
  Yesterday I couldn’t even spell intermoligist, now I is one.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:27am
  - Mike
    
    I’m into mology as well.
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:46am
  - Tall Man
    
    However, the covid con has been well and truly debunked in this country.
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:59am
    - fernglas
      
      Not according to 80% of its population. These are the civil servants who have been on full pay and won’t go back to their offices because it’s not “safe”, or their bosses who won’t ask them back until all levels of alertness have gone. The Council workers who say they are more productive from home. Bank staff who are scared that if they come within 2 metres of someone they might drop dead. Insurance company employees who think they can catch it off toilet seats. Meanwhile, the city centres are starving. It was all very well scaring people into compliance at the outset; that was the easy part, but the true test of leadership is coaxing them out of their collective terror and back to their lives. For that, I am afraid we don’t have a leader, just a communicator with a mouth full of platitudes.
      
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      June 2, 2020 10:16am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Ardern R. has got them where she wants them.
        
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        June 2, 2020 1:51pm
  - RightNow
    
    Lol, love a good Cindy impersonation
    
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    June 2, 2020 9:40am
- Unity
  
  I’ve been astounded by the number of people who are actually very fearful and still won’t venture out. They totally believe what the PM and D-G of Health tell them and hang on their every word. The media have certainly let us all down badly but are we surprised?!! Where’s some investigative reporting of the true facts?
  
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  June 2, 2020 1:22pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Parri$ Goebel should be arrested for inciting people to break the rules. Where is the media on this?
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June 2, 2020 8:09am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  And the Police
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:09am
- Tall Man
  
  “Where is the media on this?”
  
  Right behind her.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:57am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes. That’s what $50M does
    
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    June 2, 2020 9:45am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    In front shielding or not seeing.
    
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    June 2, 2020 12:53pm
- niggly
  
  Talking about “breaking the rules”, not that I am a supporter of Brian Tamaki but I wonder if he will defy the government and resume Church services in the weekend (giving them a two-fingered salute)?
  
  Let’s face it, if Tamaki did you can be sure the Police (and the PM) won’t do a thing. Nothing.
  
  Because if they did it would be perceived as being “racist” and an affront to Maori “self-determination”.
  
  Regardless the PM and government is rapidly loosing face. Expect an acceleration to level 1 so that Labour don’t continue to appear to be ineffectual (or worse – having to actually deal with increasing level 2 rule breaking) …
  
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  June 2, 2020 9:02am
- cmm
  
  What do you expect. She’s a hip-hop “artist”.
  
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  June 2, 2020 2:06pm
oldpark

Should we forgive her NZs number one control freak “Auntie Cindy” in what she does or says . After the failure of the planned Sob-fest in Christchurch on March 15 2020. The Peters selected woman known as “Miss Auntie Cindy Ardern” decided in a panic to shut down NZs borders after refusing advice on what was happening all around NZ with the threat of the Coronavirus .
Yes most people thought that that type of panic was not so bad . Except the Employment and Business Community took a massive hit with the Lockdown . In fact NZs Economy was virtually turned into ashes by the actions of Miss Arderns’ Regime Panic . Yet in an interview on radio not so long ago “Miss Auntie Cindy Ardern” better known as NZs number one control freak said” NZs economy was back to normal” . That comment beggars belief . Seems commie /socialist ideology is in play here big time .FFS.
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June 2, 2020 8:15am
- KevO'Brien
  
  “Normal” to Ardern R. means her plans for her communist govt are well in hand. She’s got us where she wants us.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:26am
  - Mike
    
    Yeah, it’s only a matter of time before she expels the Trotskyists and moves to liquidate the Kulaks.
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:48am
    - rangitoto
      
      She is a Trotskyist. It’s the Stalinists being expelled this time. As for the kulaks, well I trust you don’t own more than one cow?
      
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      June 2, 2020 10:02am
      - Ed Snack
        
        If Cindy is a Trot, I can see the next step has to be an NZ wide ban on ice axes…
        
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        June 2, 2020 11:11am
      - Jack5
        
        When getting “axed” meant more than just getting sacked.
        
        The article linked to below, when you scroll down, contains a photo of what is alleged to be the very ice axe used to kill Trotsky by Stalin’s hit man, Ramon Mercader (a.k.a. Frank Jackson (to Trotsky) and Jacques Mornard (to Mexican police and prison authorities until 1953)).
        
        It was a comfortable prison term for Mercader. The Russians set him up with a Mexican starlet for a girlfriend. She visited him in jail (and later married him).On his release the couple moved first to Moscow, where Mercader received the country’s highest award, Hero of the Soviet Union. They later moved to Cuba, where Mercader died of lung cancer.
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/13/trotsky-ice-axe-murder-mexico-city
        
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        June 2, 2020 1:23pm
  - G152
    
    And with our economy in tatters, ordinary people to scared to go outdoors because of a ‘pandemic’ that only seems to kill the already aged and ailing.
    Oh and the daily political broadcast with the referent head nodding..
    Elections in the wind
    
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    June 2, 2020 9:22am
- Nickc2
  
  Yes, she was on the Hosking show this morning saying business had already returned to normal. What planet is this (expletive) from?
  
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  June 2, 2020 12:37pm
JibberJabber

Sofia Taueki-Jackson.
Heard of her?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300024538/auckland-baby-homicide-no-arrest-a-week-after-sofia-tauekijacksons-death

Nobody is marching for her, murdered in her home where she was supposed to be safe.
None of these self-righteous protesters could get off their arses for the rights of the myriad of voiceless children killed in this country every year.
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June 2, 2020 8:18am
- Tall Man
  
  “Black” lives matter, not brown.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:56am
  - Nickc2
    
    ANTIFA is alive and well in little old New Zealand.
    
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    June 2, 2020 12:39pm
    - Batman
      
      Oh piffle. A bunch of wannabe peace hippies and a small band of anti-prison commies!
      
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      June 2, 2020 12:55pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Bollox:
        https://www.facebook.com/AntifaNZ/
        
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        June 2, 2020 8:03pm
Tomtoddy

We are being played. It is not just a case of the PM wanting to do the right thing or even her exercising her instinctive socialist control of the population. She is determining just how far she can manipulate pliable minds. We are being played.
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June 2, 2020 8:21am
- Tall Man
  
  You may be, I am not.
  
  I speak out against ardern at every opportunity and so far I have met 1 person who actually is dumb enough to tell me they think she did a good job. Most just roll their eyes at the mention of her name.
  
  She may be winning the “social media” but the election may be an entirely different matter.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:53am
  - IC5000
    
    Didn’t your discussions about politics cause one of work colleagues to quit in fear? You seemed quite proud of it for some reason.
    
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    June 2, 2020 11:01am
    - Tall Man
      
      Wtf are you talking about?
      
      Are you a lefty or something, sorry, sumthink?
      
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      June 2, 2020 12:01pm
      - IC5000
        
        No, a real conservative unlike many neoliberal quislings here.
        
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        June 2, 2020 1:05pm
      - Tall Man
        
        No answer to my first question?
        
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        June 2, 2020 2:44pm
  - Unity
    
    Tall Man I too speak out against Ardern at ever opportunity but unlike you I’m meeting many people who say she’s doing a great job and think she is awesome. I liken them to sheep and call them Sheeple. It’s staggering and very worrying that so many people are very deluded and can’t see what’s really going on. I just hope the penny drops before the election otherwise I dread to think what will happen to our country if they get back in.
    
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    June 2, 2020 1:26pm
    - Tall Man
      
      That’s a shame. I also meet a few but I have eliminated those from my life that I know are too dumb to think for themselves. I suggest you do the same 🙂
      
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      June 2, 2020 2:45pm
- kowtow
  
  She couldn’t do it without an actively participating Media Party.
  The so called fourth estate is not fit for purpose.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:53am
Captain Mainwaring

And while we’re on the Covid subject, what was Twitford doing giving an exemption to the Avatar people when he can’t extend the same courtesy to the America’s Cup crews?
And why can’t someone question Cindy on this?
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June 2, 2020 8:24am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Avatar people pay.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:26am
  - MT_Tinman
    
    and give pathetic little communists and their family parts in their movie.
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:36am
  - alex Masterley
    
    The Ameicas Cup teams also pay alot of locals and a shed load of GST.
    The exemption for the Avatar people suggests the government are playing favourites.
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:40am
    - Tall Man
      
      Watching a boat race doesn’t get “likes” from the cool crowd in wankerville hollywood.
      
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      June 2, 2020 8:50am
      - alex Masterley
        
        I am not sure if we would want their “likes”.
        
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        June 2, 2020 10:07am
    - lifesgood
      
      Ahh…but yachties are rich pricks, don’t you know.
      
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      June 2, 2020 9:19am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yes. Donations will be finding their way circuitously into the Labour Party coffers. Perhaps Winston was able to give guidance.
    
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    June 2, 2020 8:55am
    - kevn
      
      @KK… That james cameron is one preachy lefty guy.
      
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      June 2, 2020 9:03am
    - sooty
      
      Just wait till all the CCP students turn up.
      
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      June 2, 2020 9:15am
  - chukar
    
    The hell they do!
    Google the subsidies Avatar has taken from NZ taxpayers.
    
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    June 2, 2020 10:01am
    - Mike
      
      The worm is turning. It was all marvellous for Kiwibloggers when the government was legislating away workers’ rights in the film industry. Anyone opposed to that was a ‘hobbit hater’, remember. But now, special deals for the film makers are bad, bad, bad…
      
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      June 2, 2020 10:49am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Not all, there’s at least some of us who opposed the original tax subsidies for films. Didn’t oppose the agreement to allow contracting though, as opposed to enforced unionisation.
        
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        June 2, 2020 11:13am
      - Mike
        
        It was nothing to do with unionisation. It was the government legislating to decree that workers in the film industry were ‘independent’ contractors when a court had found otherwise.
        
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        June 2, 2020 1:28pm
  - Prince
    
    They will quickly learn how many doors open if they say ‘Gee Whiz what a beautiful country you have here, the people are so friendly and your leader is so kind’.
    
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    June 2, 2020 10:48am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    ‘Avatar people pay’.
    Bullshit. I’ve just read on Stuff that we’re picking up the bill for their quarantine. We probably paid for the chartered Air NZ plane as well.
    
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    June 2, 2020 11:07am
- MCos
  
  54 essential crew were allowed into the country to get Avatar started again. The movie provides a lot of local jobs and generates big bucks.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:40am
  - MCos
    
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/media-technology/417975/avatar-crew-touch-down-in-wellington
    
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    June 2, 2020 9:39am
  - rangitoto
    
    Are they spreading the virus? I hear the so called isolation isn’t going well.
    
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    June 2, 2020 10:05am
    - fernglas
      
      If the isolation is managed the same way it has been up until now, it will be a complete dog’s breakfast.
      
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      June 2, 2020 10:20am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Are you saying that the America’s Cup and its associated superyacht servicing industry doesn’t do the same thing?
    
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    June 2, 2020 10:21am
    - MCos
      
      I’m not familiar with the details of how many essential foreigners are needed to get the America’s Cup up to speed.
      
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      June 2, 2020 10:34am
      - rangitoto
        
        With no foreigners there will be no cup unless they allow Team NZ to sail for the cup by themselves.
        
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        June 2, 2020 11:26am
      - MCos
        
        “With no foreigners there will be no cup”
        Few people will notice.
        I doubt if one person in a hundred even knows what year this competition is scheduled for.
        
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        June 2, 2020 12:20pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        You are certainly one in a hundred MCos.
        A very special case.
        
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        June 2, 2020 12:41pm
  - Prince
    
    Maybe, but shouldn’t they be isolating like everyone else ? Have we returned to the joke regime where arrivals are handed a piece of paper on arrival telling them to please self-isolate, and off they go.
    News reports over the weekend would suggest so, and with Twyford now in charge, it is highly likely.
    
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    June 2, 2020 10:51am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Generates a net loss to NZ after the tax subsidies. Wonder who is funding this film, there’s a lot of “dark” money in films, great way to launder dirty money.
    
    That’s why projects to provide good accurate accounting for film productions never make money, the last thing the film industry wants is for anyone to have any idea how they are funded and how much gets siphoned off.
    
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    June 2, 2020 11:16am
  - Nickc2
    
    and the America’s Cup doesn’t???
    
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    June 2, 2020 12:45pm
  - Sacha
    
    I wonder, were they all certified C19 virus-free, before entry?
    
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    June 2, 2020 3:41pm
- kowtow
  
  James Cameron.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:54am
- Sacha
  
  Cindy better be careful – one new case of C19. associated with the Avatar people, and she’ll be in trouble.
  Big trouble.
  
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  June 2, 2020 9:13am
  - Prince
    
    Ardern and Blomfield would never let that get out.
    
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    June 2, 2020 10:52am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Are you saying they would lie? Well I never …..
      
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      June 2, 2020 11:21am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That will be exactly what she wants – to regain control
    
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    June 2, 2020 10:56am
  - septic skeptic
    
    You will never hear about it. Privacy Act. A case linked to overseas travel.
    
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    June 2, 2020 10:58am
  - niggly
    
    No problem, Cindy has 3 Minister’s she can throw under the bus if that happens!
    
    1. Iain Lees Galloway as Immigration Minister, for letting them in?
    
    2. David Clark as Health Minister, for saying it was safe to let them in?
    
    3. Phil Twyford, as Transport Minister , for allowing the airliner into NZ?
    
    Remember Cindy is like a cute adorable cat to 60% of those polled (and 99% of the MSM), so there ya go she has at least 3 cat lives she can sacrifice first! 😉
    
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    June 2, 2020 11:04am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      I know a cat that a handling judge needed 47 stitches afterwards.
      
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      June 2, 2020 1:57pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Don’t worry, it won’t be reported.
    
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    June 2, 2020 12:46pm
Maggie Pie

One of my bestie’s from NY tweets:

“Accusations that accused killer-cop Derek Chauvin was in any way ‘RACIST’ is absolute bollocks…..you just need to check this out”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZVSfuwXQAIBqL3?format=jpg&name=medium
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June 2, 2020 8:24am
- emmess
  
  Doesn’t mean he wasn’t racist against black people, I want to see the races of the 17 previous complainants against him were, I know at least one was a white kid.
  But it means he wasn’t some sort of white supremacist Nazi, this likes of which the media are telling us are behind the riots.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:39am
  - IC5000
    
    Quite a few alt righters have Asian partners. Andrew Anglin and Richard Spencer have both engaged in race mixing with Asians. I’ve come across some online personalities like the Franklin having families with Asians. I think when it comes down For all their white power jive they see white women as insufferable and promiscuous who do not age well so they’d rather have an a more feminine Asian women.
    
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    June 2, 2020 11:15am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      There’s a few with old guys in Remuera.
      My partners calls them “DIALERS”
      
      LOL!!
      
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      June 2, 2020 12:08pm
      - IC5000
        
        Those old coots are probably on their second marriage and living the dream with younger women after they learned a valuable lesson from their first marriage. May as well upgrade to a better model. Life’s too short to be putting up with wrinkles and grey hair.
        
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        June 2, 2020 12:28pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        It’s all in the genes of course…. 😛
        
        https://i.imgflip.com/hc2we.jpg
        
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        June 2, 2020 1:17pm
    - emmess
      
      Then they are by definition not white supremacists then. At most, white and Asian supremacists.
      
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      June 2, 2020 1:06pm
      - IC5000
        
        They probably try to justify it somehow. I don’t really care if some alt right Nazis are actually hypocrites because would rather have sex with Asian women.
        
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        June 2, 2020 3:18pm
- Nickc2
  
  Yes, she’s given him the flick (filed for divorce) already. She wants another blue jean wallet.
  
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  June 2, 2020 12:49pm
Michael NZ

Maggie
I read a pushback against that yesterday from a woman stating she was the wrong woman to him and to leave her alone.
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June 2, 2020 8:30am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

So you’re rioting and looting for George?

Floyd or Soros?
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June 2, 2020 8:34am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Only one George is providing pallets of bricks . . .
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:44am
- Tall Man
  
  A new TV silly 🙂
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:48am
oldpark

Thought for the week .All that has to happen to satisfy the Meglamaniac known as Peters on his ranting and raving on the Level 2 Lockdown and why it should go to Level 1. It is so simple it is a wonder he hasn’t done it already. Cross the floor. Oh yes forgot he would no longer have a job and could not plan the next type of betrayal of NZs voters on 19 09 2020 .Lest we forget .Just saying.
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June 2, 2020 8:36am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Were there MP’s at the protest?
  
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  June 2, 2020 1:10pm
Durden

Doesn’t this picture of the Auckland protest yesterday mean that the vunnerable whanau in Northland are all now safe and I can travel there ? Or was there never any problem?

https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/4/y/m/l/3/c/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1420×800.4yml3f.png/1591002804880.jpg

And I am so over random ‘Pukana’ at random times and places. Unless it is done in a formal cultural setting, its so out of place, overdone and risible.

Calling out the emperors new clothes — i say its funny and ridiculous. Especially so when the performer is fat and non-intimidating. Maybe we should export some of our all-knowing elders to go put a Rahui in Minn. Maybe not, as Taika Waititi found out when his pompous tweet got smacked down according to Stuff.

Nobody will say it, but there you go I did. Because it is a factual observation.
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June 2, 2020 8:39am
- MCos
  
  “Nobody will say it, but there you go I did.”
  That’s brave of you, anonymous.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:45am
  - Durden
    
    You think so anonymous ?
    
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    June 2, 2020 3:18pm
- Tall Man
  
  Obviously brown people aren’t susceptible to covid so maybe they can give back the extra millions ardern doled out to buy their votes.
  
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  June 2, 2020 8:47am
- sooty
  
  Shit buy that man a beer that’s got the girl in the stripey shirt on his shoulders.He’s brave!
  
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  June 2, 2020 9:17am
  - Don Beckett
    
    That’s a bloke 😉
    
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    June 2, 2020 12:40pm
Gravelroad

So can we now assume that “black lives matter” more than what Ms Ardern has been telling us about the Covid pandemic?
Has she condemned the flouting of her rules?
The hypocrisy of all this is more sickening than the disease.
Careful Ms Ardern, this situation is a threat to your leadership. Doubts are now settling in with the law-abiding types who have sacrificed so much on your alter of popularity.
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June 2, 2020 8:59am
Maggie Pie

There’s nothing shorter than a long weekend.
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June 2, 2020 8:59am
burt

The PM has the best friends, Ritchie Hardcore was on twitter yesterday calling for people to join the protest. The same guy who had enough influence over her decision to get Sroubek residency (or was it citisenship ?) now seems to have convinced her (where others couldn’t) that we should move to level 1.

Who’d have guessed he was actually running the country?
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June 2, 2020 9:11am
- Maggie Pie
  
  I’ll tell you has has gone very quiet….that other friend of hers
  Alex (I’d like to buy a vowel) Swney.
  
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  June 2, 2020 9:27am
  - rouppe
    
    Kim Dot Com is also keeping a low profile. Jeez when can we be rid of that person
    
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    June 2, 2020 11:06am
Maggy Wassilieff

“Now is the winter of our discontent”

Who will make it glorious summer?
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June 2, 2020 9:11am
- burt
  
  Winter… yes we have done very well, we have delayed the communidy spread of Covid-19 until the sun is low and peoples resistance to colds and flu’s is lower than it was in March. Aren’t the experts awesome.
  
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  June 2, 2020 9:13am
- Mike
  
  Where’s a glorious sun of York when you need one?
  
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  June 2, 2020 10:21am
- Prince
  
  Well what’s ‘is name is very quiet now, perhaps in urgent media training.
  
  Act is looking better with each passing day.
  
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  June 2, 2020 10:57am
- IC5000
  
  Look at the polls and tell me what you think.
  
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  June 2, 2020 11:26am
  - All_on_Red
    
    NZ First is gone?
    And probably The Greens
    Yay
    
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    June 2, 2020 11:38am
    - IC5000
      
      And….
      
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      June 2, 2020 12:29pm
Yvette

“When you’re a bit of an anxious person, and you constantly worry about things, there comes a point where certain jobs are just really bad for you.

“I just feel like there’s more people to let down now. I do feel an enormous amount of pressure because I know there are lots of people who don’t want me to screw up, and there are just as many who would really love it if I did.”
– Jacinda Ardern opens up on anxieties, NEXT mid 2017 interview [1]

Is Ardern capable of making decisions she should?
Has Winston forgotten he selected her to make those decisions in conjunction with his own performance in Cabinet?

Will Winston even ask why Police did not disperse yesterday protests the moment they infringed cover-19 Level provisions, considering that, being in Cabinet, he approved them?

[1] https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/06/poll-jacinda-ardern-s-popularity-plummets.html
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June 2, 2020 9:16am
- Don Beckett
  
  Sadly, that’s a bit out of date.
  
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  June 2, 2020 12:45pm
Left Right and Centre

Don’t make fun of Maori – they don’t like it.
It’s offensive
You’d hate to offend anyone. Hey mate . . .
Who spilt the bleach?
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June 2, 2020 9:21am
- IC5000
  
  News flash Einstein, nobody like to be made fun of.
  
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  June 2, 2020 12:55pm
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    Nah – just lefty snowflakes – aren’t you one of them?
    Spilt the bleach comment doesn’t offend me – this country was once 90% white so yeah – who spilt the bleach. Double standard for Maori though – can’t have them on.
    
    Your comment is irrelevant to the debate.
    
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    June 2, 2020 7:18pm
all true

The word racism should go both ways, but it doesn’t, but it goes conveniently only in one direction.
The protesters should also consider to go out and protest against the government in power for removing free expressions, free speech etc.
But I think they will not do it as they receive enough free handouts in form of money from the clowns in the beehive.
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June 2, 2020 9:26am
MCos

With regards to the turmoil in America.
I was working in Bangkok ten years ago when the red shirts took over an area of the CBD for several weeks. There were associated clashes with the police and the army and by the time the area was cleared ninety+ people were dead.
We went down there a few times, talked to some of the protesters, who were predominantly country people from up north who were being screwed over because the democratic system had been skewed against them, so they believed.
My point is you need to be there to find out for yourself and even then two people looking at the same thing can see some different.
CNN, BBC, AlJeezera, NYT, were all there, but their people had parachuted in for the occasion and concentrated on the wizz bang stuff.
The local TV media was largely government owned . . . Local newspapers featured, as they always do, photos of dead bodies on the front page.
So we sit out here in NZ and this is the coverage we get . . . .
It’s like watching a five day test reduced to thirty seconds of fours, sixes and dropped catches.
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June 2, 2020 9:29am
- IC5000
  
  I wouldn’t say there were clashes when the Thai army had snipers shooting anything that moved. I wasn’t there but watched a live FB feed and it was frightening.
  
  I’ve been watching YouTube FB streams to try to get a better sense of what is happening in the streets rather than rely on others interpretations.
  
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  June 2, 2020 11:22am
  - Tall Man
    
    Like McCos I was there and even walked through one of the protest marches in Siam. They were handing out water bottles and were a very cherry bunch of protestors. We went down to the nighttime protest at Patpong where there was a death when a protestor dropped a grenade.
    
    The actual media coverage was as he described, cherry picked clips.
    
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    June 2, 2020 12:18pm
Maggy Wassilieff

The Peter Ridd Cases/Freedom of Speech/Exposure of Fraudulent science carries on in a Queensland Court this week.

https://ysb.co.nz/the-death-of-scientific-method/
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June 2, 2020 9:39am
- krazykiwi
  
  I’ve donated twice to Ridd’s legal fund. It is an important case for freedom of expression and for integrity in science.
  
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  June 2, 2020 9:59am
- Mike
  
  The case may touch upon freedom of speech, as opposed to academic conduct, but it has nothing to do with ‘exposure of fraudulent science’.
  
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  June 2, 2020 10:27am
  - RightNow
    
    Fraudulent science was exposed by Peter Ridd. The university is covering for the fraudsters. You are woefully ill informed, and clearly you prefer it that way.
    
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    June 2, 2020 11:16am
  - Ed Snack
    
    That shows that you nothing about the case Mike.
    
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    June 2, 2020 11:21am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I suggest you read up on Oona Lonnstedt and her Lionfish research and her supervisors at JCU.
    start here:
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/09/can-you-spot-duplicates-critics-say-these-photos-lionfish-point-fraud
    
    (there’s a lot more…..)
    
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    June 2, 2020 7:39pm
Maggie Pie

Went into Newmarket yesterday thinking I’d use up the balance on my David Jones gift card.
It wasn’t the greatest experience, I found Westfield Mall was very sort of …..peopley 🙁
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June 2, 2020 9:48am
- IC5000
  
  So there were people in a shopping mall after weeks in lockdown. What did you think was going to happen?
  
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  June 2, 2020 12:58pm
  - niggly
    
    Lol!
    
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    June 2, 2020 2:56pm
BeaB

Audrey Young has written an article about politician winners and losers during Covid.
I have three nominations outside politics, all losers.
The media who have operated as a fawning fan club for Labour.
The Correspondence School, our biggest school, set up to provide distance learning. Where were they? Why were special units needed in the Ministry of Education to do their job?
Courier Post. When many of us desperately needed home deliveries, they let us down. Before Queens Birthday weekend they said they had a backlog of 50,000 parcels! Why not put on extra vans, extra drivers, extra hours? NZPO is surely dead and should be put out of its misery so we can use efficient private companies instead.
So many winners among small businesses who went out of their way to deliver food, medications, booze and other necessities.
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June 2, 2020 9:49am
- sooty
  
  There are other companies out there doing the same work. You don’t have to support Courier Post. They will get bigger if you support them, their business is been subsidized by the NZPO over the opposition.
  
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  June 2, 2020 10:32am
- Mike
  
  1. The medias has continued as usual. Just because you don’t liken the government does not mean that the media’s coverage is biased.
  2. The Correspondence School was hardly likely to be able to scale up from 10,000 students to hundred of thousands.
  3. So far as I can tell, all courier companies have been overloaded and subject to backlogs. No one is stopping you from using private companies in preference to NZ post, btw.
  
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  June 2, 2020 10:37am
  - BeaB
    
    The media have almost completely laid off Jacinda etc. Even Winst0n has been more effective as a critic.
    The consumer doesn’t get a choice when the suppliers choose the delivery service.
    If the couriers were overloaded why not soak up some of the unemployed. For instance, in the UK laid-off pilots have taken up driving jobs. Everyone else helped shoulder the burden except for NZ Post.
    Of course the Correspondence School could have ramped up. It’s mainly digital. They don’t have to send out packets of printed stuff.
    
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    June 2, 2020 11:32am
    - MCos
      
      “It’s mainly digital”
      That’s fine if the kids have modems, laptops, etc
      As it happens the further you go down the deciles the more likely all the kids have is a smart phone with prepay.
      
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      June 2, 2020 12:33pm
Thought Criminal

Prediction. No organiser from the black lives matter protest will be prosecuted because its “different when the left do it” and Jacinda is as weak as a wet bus ticket.
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June 2, 2020 10:04am
- Tall Man
  
  You’ve obviously never been slapped with one. It can take ages to get the ink off your wrist if it runs … so there ?
  
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  June 2, 2020 12:10pm
- burt
  
  Look who the organisers are – all animals are equal comrade.
  
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  June 2, 2020 5:30pm
kloyd0306

Comrade Helen Gives Up……..

Legalize pot because the law is too hard to enforce.

At least the left are consistent – soft on law enforcement – underlined by the Dem governors who are okay with setting fires, looting and pillaging as an excuse for protesting.
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June 2, 2020 10:04am
- sooty
  
  Test for drugged driving!
  How come other countries can do it?
  
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  June 2, 2020 10:34am
- all true
  
  Comrade Helen should go back into a cave.
  
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  June 2, 2020 12:01pm
Cassandra

I’m no expert on polls (understatement) and would value an expert’s take on today’s Roy Morgan which gives Labour 56%. DPF? Obviously there’s an element of hysteria which the campaign will correct but a 30% gap over National is huge. Is RM reliable?
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June 2, 2020 10:43am
- Brian McDonald
  
  Because the poll is showing the same trend as other recent polls I’d say reliable.
  
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  June 2, 2020 11:45am
- niggly
  
  Here it is if interested:
  https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8429-nz-national -voting-intention-may-2020-202006010651
  
  However the polling dates are similar to the Reid Research and Colmar Brunton polls i.e. during the “publicly supported lockdown”, except RM was polling longer (27 April to 24 May) whereas RR and CM only polled for a week or so.
  
  I broadly agree with Brian’s reply “the poll is showing the same trend as other recent polls I’d say reliable”.
  
  OTOH Roy Morgan polling tends to be all over the place compared to the more stable RR and CM polling. For example in the lead up to the 2017 election RM had National on 40% (actual election result was 44.4%), Labour 39.5 (actual election result 36.9%), Greens 9% (election 6.3%), NZF 6% (election 7.2%), ACT 0.5% (election 0.5%). Apart from ACT, RM were quite off compared to RR and CM (I seem to recall DPF blogging about this at the time).
  
  Anyway fast forward to today, looks like Newshub have a story on it:
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/06/political-poll-labour-has-more-than-double-national-s-support-kiwis-happy-with-country-s-direction.html
  
  But IMO it’s too early to tell if the trend (that Labour very high and National very low) will continue. I’d be more interested in the polls in, say 3-4 weeks or a month’s time to give a better indication of actual support trends for the various parties.
  
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  June 2, 2020 12:43pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Personally, JA is starting look a bit thread bare.
    Without the protection of her lectern and captive audience.
    On the AM show I thought I might be looking at the beginnings of a Joe Biden mumbling and stumbling, interspersed with some rehearsed pat lines.
    My prediction for the election.
    National 37% (44 + 9 overhang)…53 seats
    Labour 40% (48 + 11 overhang)…59 seats
    Act 6% (7 + 1 overhang)………………8 seats
    Greens 4%
    NZF 3%
    
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    June 2, 2020 3:45pm
- Mark
  
  Life for a lefty just gets better and better by the day ,bonus I just got to give shit to Paula Benefits brother on the weekend ,double splendid .
  
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  June 2, 2020 12:45pm
  - niggly
    
    What did you do?
    
    And are you talking about in real life or on say social media for example.
    
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    June 2, 2020 2:58pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Are you a nasty person, Mark?
    
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    June 2, 2020 3:16pm
burt

Awesome, not only do the rich and famous get special treatment from our PM, we tax payers also get to reach into our empty pockets to make sure the wealthy don’t need to reach into theirs.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/121692713/taxpayers-forking-out-to-keep-la-avatar-crew-in-quarantine

Thanks Cindy, nothing makes me happier than paying tax so you, can spend it on people earning more that 99% of the workers in this country.
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June 2, 2020 10:49am
- MCos
  
  ‘Taxpayers are footing the bill to monitor film workers‘
  What are you suggesting?
  They provide their own monitors?
  
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  June 2, 2020 12:45pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    Do we have to point out the obvious.
    Not provide – pay for.
    
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    June 2, 2020 4:31pm
  - burt
    
    They don’t need to be here MCos, they are here for work and have bern allowed in at a time when families are forced to stay apart because family off shore who are not NZ citisens are not allowed in. So absolutely they should be paying for themselves. Ideally they should also be paying the same tax rates as the rest if us who are subsidising them.
    
    However it is funny how the left suddenly like trickle down economics when the PM lets highly paid actors into the country with special tax deals.
    
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    June 2, 2020 5:27pm
- krazykiwi
  
  The quiet Labour Party donation would have been contingent on zero cost quarantine.
  
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  June 2, 2020 2:27pm
  - burt
    
    Zero cost… I’d bet dollars to doughnuts that the film company is getting wage subsidies for them while they are in quarantine.
    
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    June 2, 2020 5:29pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Long post – sorry.

A post from many other Truckers:

DEAR AMERICA, WE ARE SERIOUS…

THE AMERICAN TRUCKER will not be held hostage, threatened, robbed, or killed. We will not be a victim. We will not be this generation’s version of Reginald Denny. Every driver knows that name. Do you?

We will defend ourselves everytime, up to and including, using our 80,000lb trucks and it’s 1,800 foot-pounds of torque to run you over.

Cities where looting, rioting, and stopping trucks is happening…. You are hearby put on notice.

Threaten, delay, attempt to stop a truck, we… The American trucker will consider that act as an attack on our lives. We will defend ourselves, our equipment, and our load.

Food, medicine, hospital supplies, gasoline, and a million other daily items we deliver to your cities ARE A-POLITICAL. Everyone needs them, including your dumbass. We don’t “need” to come to your lawless city. YOU NEED us to deliver your food and supplies to your city.

We drivers have social media too. If your city becomes too chaotic and violent. Becomes too unsafe for us… Word will spread very quickly amongst the 3.5 million truckers. We will stop delivering to your city. Period. No driver will travel into a city that reminds us of scenes from a “Mad Max” movie.

Threaten an American truck driver while he’s working and it will take you, and your city, down a path where YOU WILL LOSE.

Take a moment and seriously think: Do you really want to risk your doctor NOT having the supplies he needs to save you while in surgery? Do you really want to stop the medicines keeping your kids and parents alive?

Keep your silly shit off the US Interstate and US highway system. Congregating in the roadway will only get you run over. Having people standing and blocking the highway is a threat to our physical safety and we will respond appropriately to your attack. Standing in the roadway is NOT a protest. It is an attack on our safety. Air horns will sound, steering wheels will be held tightly, but those brakes will not be touched. You will move, or you will die. 80,000 pounds at 70mph will win every time. STAY OUT OF THE ROADWAY.

In closing: DONT FUCK WITH THE AMERICAN TRUCKER!
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June 2, 2020 10:51am
- IC5000
  
  [Deleted – how about you quit vomiting all over other posters contributions. Thanks, Mod.]
  
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  June 2, 2020 11:30am
  - sooty
    
    Rioters trying to stop a tanker truck, how slilly can you get with possibly a flammable load that would go bang!
    
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    June 2, 2020 12:33pm
    - Batman
      
      Do you mean fleeing out of the way?
      
      I dunno what video you saw but they parted like Moses was running the shop…
      
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      June 2, 2020 12:59pm
      - Jack5
        
        A different side to the American looting. They weren’t all after the latest sports wear and electronic gizmos.
        
        This woman was after a snack:
        
        https://youtu.be/pI4STt6o56Q
        
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        June 2, 2020 1:39pm
      - Batman
        
        Haha I did see a photo of someone with a cheesecake, so that must be the same place.
        
        It just proves the point that arseholes on all sides look out for themselves in times like this!
        
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        June 2, 2020 2:08pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      44000kg will hurt bad
      
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      June 2, 2020 2:05pm
fernglas

The Guardian calls for honesty and evidence about the effects of Covid-19
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/01/prevent-chaotic-end-lockdown-true-risks-british-people
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June 2, 2020 10:54am
Philview

I just hope there are a lot of people out there questioning this Government. Anyone with a degree of sense should be concerned that we have had a lockdown that has created significant unemployment, destroyed many businesses, people have not been able to visit dying relatives in hospital, or attend funerals BUT Jacinda Ardern is ok with political marches like yesterday, ok with roadblocks manned by gang members.
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June 2, 2020 10:57am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It’s different when the left do it. The protestors are her people
  
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  June 2, 2020 11:27am
- KevO'Brien
  
  That’s her people–riotous activists.
  
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  June 2, 2020 3:46pm
MH

In the old days basically yer had the fear of the Mujahideen- then yer had that picture of the triumvirate trio in Parliament, Nicky Todd and Amy -the Muller Harem.

oh, look a lead balloon
pass the methane thanks
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June 2, 2020 11:09am
Prince

Strange. NZ Rugby has just announced two more demonstrations for Black Lives Matter.
One in Dunedin at Forsyth Barr Stadium on June 13.
The other at Eden Park the following day.

Stadium bosses and NZ Rugby are working through a range of crowd scenarios for the events.
Nice to see them taking such an active part in current affairs.
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June 2, 2020 11:17am
- Littletramp
  
  NZ Rugby – Go woke, go broke.
  
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  June 2, 2020 11:41am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Is Raelene Boyle’s wife now head of NZ Rugby?
  
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  June 2, 2020 1:41pm
- lifesgood
  
  What the? This is a joke surely.
  
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  June 2, 2020 3:12pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Yes.
    
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    June 2, 2020 5:24pm
cmm

So all the handwringing that CV19 was killing young people in Oz was bollocks.

The 30 year old that died in QLD had no sign of CV19 in his body but was declared a CV19 death.

How many of these bad classifications have there been world over?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/417670/australia-records-youngest-covid-19-victim-with-death-of-30-year-old

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12336368
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June 2, 2020 11:20am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://babylonbee.com/news/churchgoers-avoid-arrest-by-disguising-themselves-as-rioters?fbclid=IwAR3ShF_UXpk544cA3NfUn7aqFqrg7OohQ-X6nHo8KK8co4_4pr033lNYV70
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June 2, 2020 11:53am
- sooty
  
  HHHAAA HHHHAAAAA! That’s funny!
  
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  June 2, 2020 12:29pm
I remember when

Karl du Fresne:
The unfortunate fact about Karl is that he is one of a dying breed of journalists.
He is always thoughtful, likely to deliver facts you hadn’t considered and not scared to represent the discredited view.
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June 2, 2020 12:27pm
I remember when

Think I can see the problem.
We call it sharing.
Maori activists think it’s shearing.
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June 2, 2020 12:30pm
Mark

I just watched a peaceful crowd get dealt to by police on horses ,tear gas ,flash bang grenades,clubs rubber bullets etc ,in Washington DC .I mean WTF,we rail against the way the Chinese deal with peaceful protesters,this is hardly any better.
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June 2, 2020 12:54pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Violent protesters only know one language.
  Our Maori mobsters are winning at Ihumatao. The Police prefer to let them take over while the rich owner is stopped building the much needed houses.
  
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  June 2, 2020 3:45pm
  - IC5000
    
    True. Police need to crack a lot more heads of those very fine people in Charlottesville. I guess they were the right kind of people to Trump.
    
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    June 2, 2020 5:51pm
cmm

Auntie Jizzy says that if we’re very, very good we can go outside and play next week.

Everyone on best behaviour!
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June 2, 2020 1:41pm
Don Beckett

Good advice from Denis Prager.
https://www.prageru.com/video/graduation-2020-the-covid-class/?utm_source=Main+Mailing+List&utm_campaign=86474af625-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_09_06_29_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f90832343d-86474af625-158277205
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June 2, 2020 1:54pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Clever man. Jacinda needs to watch this so she can sort her socialist shit out.
  btw, Candace Owens has connections to Prager Uni
  
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  June 2, 2020 2:14pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Who to believe?

Dr Siouxie Wiles says the BLM protestors need to self-isolate for 14 days.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/06/coronavirus-dr-siouxsie-wiles-wants-kiwi-black-lives-matter-protesters-to-enter-14-day-self-isolation.html

Dr Ashley Bloomfield says No, they don’t, as there is no community transmission.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/06/coronavirus-no-new-covid-19-cases-in-new-zealand-for-11th-day-in-a-row.html
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June 2, 2020 2:09pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Neither, they are both full of shit
  
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  June 2, 2020 2:34pm
- niggly
  
  Taking it at face value (going by the headlines) it seems to me that Dr Wiles is being objective, but Dr Bloomfield isn’t and is being subjective – how could he possibly know with such certainty?
  
  Which would be the same view the Govt wants to hear (otherwise the COL’s sit-back-and-do-nothing-for-a-while attitude i.e. incompetence) will bite them in the proverbial if there is an outbreak! And if that happens expect Dr Bloomfield to meet the wheels of the Labour bus!
  
  Dr Wiles technically is correct (but will the protesters adhere)?
  
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  June 2, 2020 2:50pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Both are Jacinda sycophants and entitled to an opinion under free speech. Those opinions are being used – by guess who?
    
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    June 2, 2020 3:35pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  What’s the proof of “no community transmission”, if so we should all be out in the streets as we please. Those few who evidently had the active virus were isolated but they were all part of groups who were infective. Is the virus that selective that its knows its bubbles and will not infect an outsider?
  
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  June 2, 2020 3:39pm
  - Tall Man
    
    No but unlike popular belief it’s not very contagious it seems.
    
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    June 2, 2020 5:22pm
- Prince
  
  Two sides of the same counterfeit coin.
  
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  June 2, 2020 9:56pm
I remember when

Obviously great foresight!
“Motorists were warned to expect delays as giant turbine blades were transported to Waipipi Wind Farm, near Waverley, from Port Taranaki.”
And sure enough, a truck carrying a 64m-long wind turbine blade has tipped onto its side.
Following motorist have experienced the benefits of wind power.
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June 2, 2020 2:18pm
- oldfella
  
  If they’d watched Michael Moore’s doco, Planet Of The Humans’ on the renewable energy scam they could have saved themselves a lot of trouble. Although they’re probably making a lot of money in wind farm subsidies from the Govt (i.e our taxes).
  BTW, that doco was free on YouTube, but after the greenie left threw a hissy-fit, it was pulled, apparently over a disputed four seconds of content.
  
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  June 2, 2020 4:40pm
- HeatherW
  
  To add to the story the blades for Turitea windfarm have been travelling from New Plymouth to Palmerston North via SH44 and SH3 over the last 8 weeks (going past Waverley). They were shorter at 55 metres and no reported incidents. This was the first day of transporting the Waipipi ones via SH45 (Surf Highway).
  
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  June 2, 2020 6:20pm
- HeatherW
  
  Included in the list of Labour’s achievements (current lot) is “Commissioned a new 100 megawatt wind farm in Taranaki” . Probably meaning Waipipi (projected 133MW in South Taranaki) which got resource consent after 10 year process in 2017.
  
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  June 2, 2020 7:19pm
I remember when

Maggie: As Cinders says “Our team is of one mind”.
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June 2, 2020 2:20pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww
  In terms of socialists….WOW…
  
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  June 2, 2020 3:35pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Covid lockdowns are dead – even in NZ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcE1f8KP5KM
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June 2, 2020 2:22pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/as-the-last-week-has-proven-there-is-a-good-reason-americans-own-16-million-ar-15s/?fbclid=IwAR2JzED_FdlWtaKHxOPyaEaCQm3WuBowqmgh5fxLv5bNM2MXN8mSQ8-swJ4
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June 2, 2020 3:48pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I think the rednecks are getting ‘locked and loaded’ unless Trump gets super serious.
  This shit has been brewing for a long time
  
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  June 2, 2020 3:51pm
  - MH
    
    minnesota police are now claiming Floyd was helping them blow up a flat tyre.
    here comes that lead balloon again, pass me some Methane thank, I’m due for a good ticking off.
    
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    June 2, 2020 3:57pm
  - greybeard
    
    Surely the correct term is “loaded and locked” ?
    
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    June 2, 2020 6:37pm
MH

Maori roadblock in Queen St has just arrived. Harawira said they had to stop off to get supplies along the way and to re read the full text of the treaty at Waitangi, causing delays.
Pass me a macron thanks.
And of course Trump has a mini golf course in the bunker. Where do you think Tiger was hiding?
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June 2, 2020 3:54pm
Maggie Pie

Sounds like ‘Bun-Head’ is back on 🙁

Banksie is going to be a hard act to follow.
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June 2, 2020 4:02pm
MH

yes, i wonder if he can hear the sound of a helicopter as it heads towards Waiheke. And where is Herr dot com these days?
another methane ? Not today thanks, but if there’s a spare macron….
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June 2, 2020 4:26pm
lifesgood

The polls are just a load of rubbish. Only once have I ever been rung and I was asked for my post code (a strong National seat) When I gave it they said they didn’t want my opinion. If I ever get rung again…fat chance…I will not tell the truth anyway. Blow them!
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June 2, 2020 4:41pm
Fletch

Who is paying for it? Pallet loads of bricks are mysteriously showing up in cities where riots are occurring. Handy to smash things with.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/06/01/piles-of-bricks-n2569804
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June 2, 2020 5:15pm
- MH
  
  masons
  
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  June 2, 2020 7:03pm
Fletch

So, the govt is changing the speed limit on many roads from June 30th. Many limits have gone from 100km/h to 80km/h.

https://atgis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=a13aa8469db642f283ef3ad241b71882

Click the layers panel at top left for the key to speed changes by color. ?
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June 2, 2020 5:23pm
MrTips

If I was a politician struggling in the polls, I would seek to destabilise my biggest threat, remove any individuals involved in that threat, and replace them with……..

Todd Muller. He’s done. He has no traction, no apparent joie de vivre and is late to the party on the Level 1 issue.
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June 2, 2020 6:16pm
- brett68
  
  Only National would thinks it’s a winning strategy to get rid of the leader late in the game and replace them with a dour middle manager corporate clone.
  
  I can’t believe how bad our major political parties are, NZ really is a lost cause, Australia here I come.
  
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  June 2, 2020 7:11pm
septic skeptic

Journalist to Muller : Do you think Donald Trump is racist?
Muller: Um…Ah…Well ultimately he will be able to make that call himself.

Bring Back Bridges?
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June 2, 2020 6:17pm
- brett68
  
  He really is the David Shearer of national.
  Bridges was Cunliffe
  Muller is Shearer
  Who’s going to be Little and we’ve still got a Goff to go as well?
  
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  June 2, 2020 7:32pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/300026198/coronavirus-helen-clark-on-china-and-covid19

This, folks, is the person who is telling Jacinda what to do.

Jacinda is incapable of making decisions.
She screwed-up with the Taranaki oil-and-gas-exploration issue, couldn’t handle the resulting feedback and since then has prevaricated and pushed all decisions onto other people.
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June 2, 2020 6:43pm
- emmess
  
  Helen ‘running dog’ Clark
  
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  June 2, 2020 7:23pm
  - Fletch
    
    Always two there are – a master and an apprentice…
    
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