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Benedict Yu

Having a short break in Mangawhai Heads about 2 hours drive north from Auckland. I have not been up this way for about 5 years.

Once you reach the end of the motorway, SH1 up here is a disgrace. What makes it treacherous is the state of the road coupled with the traffic volumes, which took me by surprise. There really needs to be a motorway to Whangarei and with significant improvements beyond that.

That twit JAG really is a bloody piece of work. She said “cars are not wanted”. Well back in the real world I can assure her there are lots of cars. And nobody is going to ride bicycles or catch trains to get up here. For me it is a one off trip but the locals and the folk travelling here for business are taking their lives in their hands daily.
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July 25, 2020 8:00am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  On the other side of the tunnels it is a goat track. Notice the bridge just before Warkworth? 1953. 67 years and fuck all done.
  Enjoy Mangawhai – market day today. Fishing? Over the bar, 3 dunes south, then out to the 50M mark. Snapper and Kingis just waiting
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:37am
- MCos
  
  The turnoff to Mangawhai Heads is about twelve ks from where the currently under construction extension to the MW terminates.
  The extension is expected to be open in just under two years and will cut out the shambles at Warkworth.
  Building a four lane expressway through the Dome Valley to the other side of the Brynderwyns is going to be like pouring money into a bottomless pit.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:40am
  - Nickc2
    
    Tunnel through the Brynderwyns, two/three lanes each way for vehicles and one each way for trains. Makes sense to me.
    
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    July 25, 2020 12:17pm
    - MCos
      
      That idea was written off by NZTA years ago as too expensive. A new road off to the west was preferred.
      I don’t know why the Nats should want to resurrect the idea just before an election. Particularly as they refuse to provide any costing.
      
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      July 25, 2020 1:56pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      “Makes sense to me.”
      Doesn’t make sense to me. Roads and railway lines have totally different gradients so a road tunnel would be higher up the hill and a lot shorter than a rail tunnel and the existing railway line is a long way from the Brynderwyns.
      
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      July 25, 2020 2:54pm
      - Nickc2
        
        If one was to adopt your logic Captain, we would still be living in the dark ages.
        
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        July 25, 2020 8:02pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  So many trucks on the road between Auckland and Whangarei, and on the hills one has to either chug behind a gigantic truck or try to pass on a short passing lane. Always feels like taking one’s life into one’s hands.
  
  Oh well, the greens want us all to be cycling instead, or not travelling at all, or taking a bus to whangarei and then, umm, walking to whale bay?? With all the luggage and a family…
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:43am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    The short passing lanes are perilous. Saw drivers yesterday pushing the limit and running out of passing lane. The whole thing is third world. That the Government is wasting money on tram aspirations and bloody cycleways that are hardly ever used is a disgrace. New Zealanders have been brainwashed into all this. I bet that JAG has never driven from Auckland to Whangarei on a Friday afternoon. ???
    
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    July 25, 2020 10:18am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      The whole thing is third world.
      
      But we are Third World, Benedict.
      
      You only have to travel to some former 3rd World countries to realise we’ve swapped places.
      
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      July 25, 2020 10:39am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      “I bet that JAG has never driven from Auckland to Whangarei on a Friday afternoon.”
      
      Correction: “I bet that JAG has never driven.”
      
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      July 25, 2020 10:40am
      - RF
        
        She only rides her bike for photo ops.
        
        Prefers the crown limos at our expense.
        
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        July 25, 2020 12:08pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      JAG doesn’t need to drive anywhere. Her kind have an odious claim of moral supremacy by which we, the little people, must be protected from ourselves.
      
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      July 25, 2020 10:44am
      - sooty
        
        JAG has a chauffeur, don’t cha know!
        
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        July 25, 2020 11:30am
- Peter Lane
  
  I live in Wellsford and the road is a disgrace.
  
  The irony of Labour putting up an election billboard with ‘Let’s Keep Moving’ on it in the Dome Valley is not lost on me when Twyford and Genter have reduced virtually the entire road from Warkworth to Wellsford to a 50kph goat track.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:47am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I was stuck in traffic near Workworth next to a “keep New Zealand moving” billboard. My partner thought it was amusing.
    
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    July 25, 2020 10:14am
  - doggone7
    
    You mean the goat track up though the area which had highly regarded MPs pushing the barrow and using their influences over years? [pushing and pushing and demanding.
    
    Don McKinnon and Lockwood Smith? Up through their area? You know between them 1978 through to 2011.
    
    33 years? 33 years! I wonder what representations the good folk of Wellsford made over those years? I wonder how stroppy they got? I wonder if they rocked the boat?
    
    Neglect neglect neglect, the other mob’s in power and its’ a big issue.
    
    People down country hear the whinging and bleating and climb on the bandwagon with no idea of the history of neglect.
    
    The Peters by-election summed it up. When polling had it that National could lose the Northland seat we had the risible ‘double-laning’ of bridges from Simon Bridges and Steven Joyce.
    
    “Be good boys and girls and vote for us and we’ll double lane a few bridges for you (How did that work out in reality?). That is the scummy way we’ve been treated for many years in many ways, not just roading.
    
    Leave State Highway 1 as it is. Let it be a memorial. Put big signs up with the name McKinnon&Smith, National Highway and invite everyone to visit the North. Who knows it could even get to be a great roller coaster tourist attraction
    
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    July 25, 2020 11:28am
  - MCos
    
    That road was hardly wonderful before the current administration took over.
    I believe there were plans afoot for an upgrade many years ago. I don’t know what happened.
    A deviation around Wellsford would be a big improvement, I would have thought.
    There’s many towns up and down the country that are bottlenecks on our SH system.
    
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    July 25, 2020 12:14pm
    - Peter Lane
      
      Agree not wonderful but light years from what we have now.
      
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      July 25, 2020 12:46pm
- yossarian
  
  Rich Prick! Why didn’t you take the train?
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:53am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Nine long years of neglect by National cannot be fixed in three years Benedict bro. Cindy needs another term for delivery. Vote Laour. Let’s keep movin and groovin…
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:48am
  - mark15
    
    Can you groove backwards SCS?
    
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    July 25, 2020 1:25pm
- doggone7
  
  Congratulations on finding out what we’ve put up with for years.
  For most of the past 60 years we’ve had National governments. For longer than that we’ve had virtually no electorate MPs from Rodney up who were not National MPs.
  
  In recent,very recent years they’ve talked about the road being our ‘economic highway.’ It’s been our economic highway for more than 100 years.
  
  Before recent elections they’ve got all excited about the necessity of doing something. Saying what they’d do on the drip feed system. Saying what they’d do, not set funding aside for its.
  
  Peters won a by-election and just before the general election it was English promises promises. The other mob got in and it’s full throttle of what National would have done and how terrible the current government is in providing reasonable roads for Northland.
  
  National were in cruise mode for donkeys years not giving a stuff about Northland highways. You had an uncomfortable trip? Big deal, get over it, we’ve being doing it for years.
  
  while you’re hating the trip home maybe you came think about laying the blame where it belongs.
  
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  July 25, 2020 11:08am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    ” had an uncomfortable trip? Big deal, get over it, we’ve being doing it for years.”
    
    Do you have a comprehension problem? My comment did not involve a personal complaint about my experience.
    
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    July 25, 2020 11:49am
  - Aunty
    
    “Peters won a by-election and just before the general election, it was English promises promises.”
    
    And what exactly did the idiots up North who voted for him achieve by doing that? I’ll tell you what they achieved. Absolutely fucking nothing.
    
    You want to be careful what you wish for, mate.
    
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    July 25, 2020 5:28pm
- C-Town
  
  And electric cars need roads too.
  
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  July 25, 2020 12:14pm
  - Raphael
    
    I pointed that out to someone of the greenish persuasion and there response was only the rich can afford electric cars.
    The logic being that no-one will have cars.
    
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    July 25, 2020 2:32pm
    - info@cruzpro.com
      
      The early adopters of electric cars pay a high price because the production volume is low. But as more people buy electric cars the price will drop. The price of an electric car will be the same or lower than a petrol car within a few years. Those that cannot afford an electric car now can thank the early adopter “rich pricks” for the lower cost when they can afford to buy one.
      
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      July 25, 2020 6:17pm
- kiwibird
  
  Its a rail motorway we want through Northland not a road one. To get the freight off our roads . The roads do not bother me the way they are – only too many trucks on them bother me.
  
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  July 25, 2020 12:39pm
  - stewmar
    
    “Its a rail motorway we want through Northland not a road one. To get the freight off our roads .“
    
    We have a main trunk rail line from Wellington to Auckland, that hasn’t stopped the freight moving by trucks
    
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    July 26, 2020 5:57am
- Aunty
  
  Either New Zealand gets real and builds proper infrastructure (including roads) fit for purpose, and joins the first world, or it doesn’t and it don’t. The choice really is as simple as that.
  
  If you want the full Venezuela then PARTY VOTE GREEN, or listen to the Luddite dumbasses. And this country more than any other has a near-endless supply of those bums.
  
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  July 25, 2020 5:21pm
All_on_Red

Will the 3 Gorges Dam hold?
Looking shaky…
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July 25, 2020 8:02am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  If it goes the CCP will go with it. There will be a blood bath in China
  
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  July 25, 2020 8:24am
- Two bob
  
  deep down everyone secretly loves disaster as long as its nimby.
  bout time china got a bit of karma but true to communist form the people not govt will suffer.
  
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  July 25, 2020 8:35am
  - Nickc2
    
    I hear the Chinese Politbureau have moved their HQ to Tibet just in case.
    
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    July 25, 2020 12:25pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Will ‘Cloud Ocean Water’ exports to China be affected?
  
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  July 25, 2020 8:35am
- peterwn
  
  Lots of scaremongering here and a lack of understanding of science and technology. The size of a lake behind a dam is irrelevant to the pressure on a dam. As long as the lake level does not exceed the design level of the dam, the dam is operating within design limits. OK there is some minimal dam deformation when the lake is full, but that is quite normal. There is no indication that the dam is compromised through design issues, scouring, etc.
  The lake and dam cannot perform miracles however. While appropriate operation of the scheme can minimise the amount of downstream flooding, it cannot prevent flooding if there is unusually heavy rainfall in the Three Gorges watershed. The biggest risk to the dam is if the lake level rises to the point that it overflows over the top of the dam. But there is no suggestion that spillway capacity is potentially inadequate.
  Looking closer to home there are potential issues that have to be managed with the Waikato River dams. The oldest dam – Arapuni needs to be watched, but so do the others to varying degrees. The big problem is predictions of maximum river flows have in retrospect found to be underestimated meaning that spillway capacity may be inadequate under the worst flood conditions. Hence Mercury Energy needs to keep a close eye on Taupo watershed rainfall and if this is very heavy, Mercury will spill water to lower lake levels to absorb the heavier flows due to heavy rainfall.
  There is currently a spat between Contact and Meridian on one hand and the Electricity Authority together with some minor retailers on the other. The minor retailers claimed that the big boys held spot prices up by spilling water while the big boys claim that spilling was necessary for safety and flood control reasons. It will be interesting to see how this pans out.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:03am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I agree with the point of your post.
    
    However, there is always a however, that melamine did not get into that milk powder by itself and assuming the dam builders did not cut corners and substitute melamine for cement, then all is well.
    
    My experience dealing with Chinese is they will lie to you, cheat you and steal from you given any opportunity.
    
    They have lived by ‘dog eat dog’ rules for longer than Jesus has been dead, it is the way they live
    
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    July 25, 2020 12:25pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    Also, not to be overlooked, the dam is literally sitting on the bedrock, not attached to it. Then, when non-local-Chinese experts looked at the standard of welding and concreting at the halfway point, they recommended a do-over. The Chinese called them racists and that was that.
    
    Well, nature ain’t racist, nature don’t care. If the pressure exceeds the design and construction parameters, it’s Goodnight Nurse.
    
    Also, one of the items rarely mentioned publicly about the three Gorges Dam project, is that there was no independent design or construction quality control. The same team of people designed it, built it, and certified it safe. What could possibly go wrong? *
    
    (* What could possibly go wrong is what we saw in Christchurch in some buildings… Imagine that on a giga-scale…).
    
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    July 25, 2020 1:26pm
- Inandout
  
  Will our big box retailers survive without Chinese goods should the dam burst?
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:10am
  - GazzaW
    
    Will the NZ economy survive should the dam burst?
    
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    July 25, 2020 9:59am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Yes
      China will lose a lot of arable land
      They will need our food
      
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      July 25, 2020 10:51am
      - sooty
        
        So that’s why they have been buying up farms!
        
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        July 25, 2020 11:35am
      - Jack5
        
        “China will lose a lot of arable land”.. [10.51 post]
        
        Can we ever be more than a niche supplier of food to China?
        
        China: land 9,326,400 square kilometres, 54.7 per cent agricultural.
        
        NZ: 264,537 sq km, 43.2 per cent agricultural.
        
        Even in dairying, China accounts for 6 per cent of world milk production compared with New Zealand at 2.8 per cent.
        
        China’s industrial revolution is also causing an agricultural revolution. Scores of thousands of small holdings will be available for merging into larger, more productive units as village young people move to China’s big cities.
        
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        July 25, 2020 3:02pm
      - Jack5
        
        Apologies for the italics: the edit function seems to be on the blink.
        
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        July 25, 2020 3:04pm
- Aunty
  
  It’s the world’s 6th largest river by volume, and the 3rd longest by length from memory. So let’s hope the dam doesn’t collapse because the death toll would be catastrophic if it did.
  
  Of course, it would make a fabulous military target……….Just saying
  
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  July 25, 2020 5:37pm
  - Two bob
    
    2 missiles they rekon and its all over rover.
    
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    July 25, 2020 6:38pm
Jimmy White

I have spent some time looking at the referendums in the upcoming election.
The first is simple, “Should an Act come into force” and but the other is “Should your Support the proposed bill”.
No 1 is simple a Bill has been passed and you are asked should it be passed.
No 2 is “Should you trust the politicians to pass a proposition”. Well I trust politicians as far as I can piss into the wind.
I have no issue as to whether the recreational use of cannabis should become legal or not but until I know HOW, WHEN,WHO and WHAT its a NO from me. For sure the Final Bill will be bear not relation to the proposition and you will thank the Greens, Clarke and a Phone call from London for that.
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July 25, 2020 8:03am
- MCos
  
  Personally I don’t think either of these referendums are necessary, or advisable.
  As we saw with the Brexit vote there is little balanced information for the voters to base their decision on, but plenty of vested interests putting out propaganda slanted towards their point of view.
  I believe we elect politicians to make decisions on our behalf.
  
  I read a few years ago the California, which has all sorts of referendums, passed two measure, by popular vote, that directly contradicted one another. I’m not sure if they are binding or not.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:55am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    “I believe we elect politicians to make decisions on our behalf.”
    
    I can’t believe an experienced adult of any political persuasion wrote that.
    
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    July 25, 2020 10:53am
    - Nickc2
      
      I sure as hell don’t want the CoL making a decision about legalising drugs for me. As for National, I’m not sure they would represent my thoughts either as they will have a lot of new wokes entering their party come September.
      
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      July 25, 2020 12:34pm
      - MCos
        
        As you know voting on these sorts of issues are up to individual MPs. My bloke, for example, is socially conservative even though he’s Labour.
        MPs sit in the House of Representatives, that is to say they represent the people. They are voted there by their constituents & around these parts the folks are pretty socially conservative. You can also make your views know to your MP.
        If the House votes differently to your point of view that probably because you hold a minority point of view. Otherwise there will be a change of government next time around and the new one can reverse the previous ones legislation, which rarely happens.
        
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        July 25, 2020 1:40pm
artemisia

Hands up all those who think Woke Wellington is full of precious petals. Ah, no. Sorry to tell you that a Wellington City Council petition to rename ‘abhorrent’ street names, including the name of the city itself, has closed with …. 3 signatures. Two from Wellington and one from Christchurch.

You can see the petition and the names of those who signed at the below link. No need to set aside an hour or two to read through the names.

Renaming of Wellington city street names That Council review all Wellington city streets and the Wellington city name and change those that are named after historical figures with behaviour that is abhorrent to me today.
Stuff reports 11 Jun, Councillor Fitzsimons urging Lucy Telfar-Barnard to start a petition to rename Picton Ave. I think we should support this initiative and would also like to at least help start the Council off by adding these … Washington Ave, George Washington slave trader. Te Wharepouri St, Berhampore, Te Wharepouri along with others such as Tautara, Titoko took many slaves at Nga Motu Wellesley Street, Arthur Wellesley, first Duke of Wellington slaughtered South Asians, sacked Indian cities. Dundas Street, Seatoun, Henry Dundas slave trader.

https://wellington.govt.nz/have-your-say/epetitions/petitions/closed/2020-06-renaming-of-wellington-and-city-street-names
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July 25, 2020 8:10am
- godruelf
  
  Given the political flavour of the WCC I would say Tory St will be a goner
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:59am
  - sooty
    
    Renamed “Woke PC Street”
    
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    July 25, 2020 11:38am
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  And what is the “perfect” society that these clowns are comparing ours to? Make no mistake, this doesn’t end until Europeans are officially and systemically subjugated in our own country. This even includes the idiots who push for this shit. And I don’t mean like the phantasm of “institutional racism” that we hear so much about currently. They may as well dig up our ancestors and violate their remains, because that is what this symbolism amounts to. In their rhetoric “racist” is fully synonymous with “white.”
  
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  July 25, 2020 11:25am
- greybeard
  
  One of the signatories is Mr. Wakefield.
  No doubt in addition to changing Wakefield St. to something he considers more appropriate he will then change his own name by deed poll to that same name !
  
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  July 25, 2020 11:56am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Oh dear, how sad, never mind! 2 losers from wellington, and one from christchurch, forever immortalised.
  
  Bwuhahahhaa!
  
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  July 25, 2020 12:12pm
- Nickc2
  
  These dopy cows should learn that we can’t re-invent history to suit a temporary woke culture. How dumb can they get?
  
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  July 25, 2020 12:38pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    Dopey cows can always get dumber. Please don’t challenge them to do so 🙂
    
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    July 25, 2020 1:27pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  It’s OK there’s no need to rename Wellesley Street in either Wellington or Auckland.
  
  For the simple reason they mispronounce the name, so they must be talking about somebody else.
  
  Arthur Wellesley, the first Duke of Wellington, had a family name pronounced “wells-lee” but for some reason everyone in NZ pronounces it “well-ers-lee”. The same with the delightful Te Mata Coleraine wine – it should be pronounced “coal-rain” as per the village in Northern Ireland that John Buck’s grandfather was born in. Not “coll-a-rain” as most of us in NZ pronounce it.
  
  And don’t even get me started on Moet et Chandon. It’s not “mo-ay”!!!
  
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  July 25, 2020 6:58pm
G152

After all the boasting by the Chinese as to the dam one would expect it to be there for millennia.
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July 25, 2020 8:18am
- MCos
  
  “Video shows devastating impact if China’s Three Gorges Dam collapses“
  
  Rather predictably, an article in the Taiwan News.
  https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3973169
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:02am
  - peterwn
    
    Peter Jackson and Weta could easily make a video showing devastating impact if Karipiro Dam collapses (goodbye Hamilton).
    
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    July 25, 2020 10:46am
    - sooty
      
      If the top dam collapses, will it take out the rest?
      
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      July 25, 2020 11:39am
      - Engelbert Humperdink
        
        Allegedly not. Because below the dam the floodplain widens extensively… Which is why it has historically flooded, thereby “protecting” the downstream dams to an extent. But then, if the dam gives way with a bang rather than a whimper, all bets are off.
        
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        July 25, 2020 1:29pm
Yvette

The sentencing of Christchurch killer / terrroist Tarrant may enlighten some regarding his motive and allow us to better understand (however wrong) what happened, as compared, for example, to the 2017 Las Vegas Stephen Paddock firing more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition from a 32nd floor suite in the Mandalay Bay Hotel, killing 58 people and wounding 413, with the ensuing panic bringing the injury total to 869, and the FBI declaring investigations are concluded without any indication as to why the crime was committed.

Regarding however New Zealand’s mass shooting, has the early (but unconventional) release of the Womens Islamic Community of New Zealand submission to the Commmission shed enough evidence on the situation that establishes they do not at all accept Ardern’s slogan, both nationally and internationally applauded at the time, that “They are us”.

World attention focused on Ardern’s actions at the the time, regarding her performance of various “duties” as Prime Minister as she decided them, but there was actually little examination of any appropriateness.

Her slogan “They are us” may prove to be a just a glib comment, and reflect unfortunately on her whole performance regarding the incident to be that of a rather ordinary leader, rather than any remarkably humane reaction.

That should have be available to evaluate her record as Prime Minister before the Election, rather than after it.
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July 25, 2020 8:18am
- Yvette
  
  Sorry, I omitted a point that may make more sense of what I have written above –
  Christchurch mosque attacks inquiry report delayed again.
  The Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Christchurch Mosque Attacks will not be completing its final report until nearly the end of November.
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/421946/christchurch-mosque-attacks-inquiry-report-delayed-again
  
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  July 25, 2020 8:56am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Indeed Yvette. I am deeply cynical about the motives behind delaying the release of the Royal Commission’s report.
    
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    July 25, 2020 9:23am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      You are conflating “completing” and “releasing”. Most or all of the report will not be released. There will probably be a sanitised summary. But the analysis of the performance of the intelligence services will never be released. And the inquiry is precluded from making recommendations on firearms laws.
      
      In short, this extension is most unlikely to be politically motivated.
      
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      July 25, 2020 9:50am
      - Nickc2
        
        I think you can bet Cindy’s gun laws (fire arms registration) implemented before the incident won’t get a mention in the final or sanitised versions.
        
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        July 25, 2020 12:50pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        No the gun laws won’t get a mention in the final report because they are not part of the terms of reference for the inquiry
        
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        July 25, 2020 4:50pm
  - oldgolfer
    
    This was always going to be after the election, considering lapses in key areas, not least how he got his licence/overview etc.
    
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    July 25, 2020 9:26am
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      Well we know how he got his license, courtesy of Cahill’s members and Bush’s blue gang NGAF to do their job properly. They must both have swooned when Cindy gave them the opportunity to rewrite the firearms legislation and told them how Tarrant got his license would never be part of the Royal Commission’s Enquiry. No wonder she, the fisherman, her friends’ alleged dealing of prohibited substances, Immigration corruption, and everything else under the sun including but not limited to her ‘comrades’ speech is protected, covered and down the memory hole…
      
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      July 25, 2020 1:31pm
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  Just saying “they are us” doesn’t make it so. They are among us, but most of them are Muslims living in New Zealand, not New Zealanders. No requirement to assimilate means they mostly won’t.
  
  The fact that there is even a Women’s Islamic Community of New Zealand demonstrates this. They themselves see themselves and openly express that they are “the other.” It is untenable to have multiple communities within the one geographic region. If they don’t want to be a New Zealander, fine. But they can leave the culture they are coming from at the door, because otherwise why are they here?
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:08am
  - alloytoo
    
    100%
    
    I came here to be a New Zealander.
    
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    July 25, 2020 12:02pm
  - Albert_Ross
    
    What would a “requirement to assimilate” actually look like?
    
    Does it, for example, dictate what men and women should wear, or eat; whether and where they should worship; who they should have as friends, whom they should marry; how they should spend their leisure time, how they should earn their living, how they should vote? How and by whom are the requirements to be determined?
    
    And would they apply to everybody, or just immigrants, or just Muslims, or just Muslim immigrants?
    
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    July 25, 2020 2:19pm
    - Two bob
      
      if you want to know what it means to assimilate I suggest you go to iraq iran or the likes and live your life and beliefs like you do here.
      youll either get the hint real quick on how to be a good muslim or lose your head.
      
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      July 25, 2020 2:39pm
      - Albert_Ross
        
        And that’s the sort of thing we want to happen here, when we call for a “requirement to assimilate” in New Zealand, is it?
        
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        July 25, 2020 3:32pm
      - Two bob
        
        no but tolerating that shit and allowing them to continue their ways here will eventualy come to a head when they have the numbers.
        
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        July 25, 2020 6:41pm
    - artemisia
      
      I, and suspect most New Zealanders, would be happy enough if individuals or groups, immigrants or not, did not request or require other people to adjust to meet their specific wishes. Or try to change our laws except through our democratic process.
      
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      July 25, 2020 5:01pm
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  That Vegas shooting stinks to high heaven. Clearly the Feds didn’t want to find out what happened, likely because they probably had some involvement, directly or indirectly. Why else has it just been dropped into the memory hole?
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:13am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Muslims are definitely not us, or for us, who are Christian. They have their own religion and requirements to adherence with severe penalties for those who fall away and outsiders who will not submit.
  The PM is ignorant and doesn’t know properly the Muslim community she is messing with.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:18am
  - The Proper Ghandi
    
    While anecdotal, Muslims I have worked with in the past demand special treatment: special dispensation to go and pray even if things get busy, special meals that don’t include prohibited ingredients, baseless charges of ‘racism’ or ‘discrimination’ when they are objectively not meeting the required standards and are called out for it, endless complaints to the boss about this, that, and the other thing. Most crimes they commit are not reported in the media, because the facts of their detrimental impact are kept out of the public eye. Sweden and the UK are two prime examples.
    
    The reality is that they see themselves as superior to any other group. Why, I don’t know, because just look at the places they come from. In a decade or so, when there are sufficient numbers, there will be an Islamic political party formed (explicitly or implicitly) that will never be out of Parliament, as they vote as a block and observe in-group preference.
    
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    July 25, 2020 10:47am
    - Two bob
      
      Thats a nice pc way of saying white supremacy has got the right idea behind their hatred of muslims (muslim takeover via imigration) but just the wrong way of dealing with it.
      
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      July 25, 2020 11:58am
      - The Proper Ghandi
        
        I don’t hate anyone. But I know that the Muslims are and have always been hostile to non-believers, because that is Allah’s word. Why is Muslim supremacy not condemned? They’ll convert you or destroy you, but they are smart enough to not tell you that. They are the epitome of intolerance. Don’t take my word, look at world history.
        
        Nothing substantive has changed in their doctrine since the 7th century, so it is irrational to think that their behaviour will change. I do not support the Islamisation of the West, for all of the reasons I give above, and if you change the parts of the whole, you will end up with a different whole. They cannot perpetuate western society, because they are not westerners.
        
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        July 25, 2020 1:12pm
      - Two bob
        
        Ghandi, I gave a blunt and honest reply it wasnt sarcastic.
        I understand and agree 100% with what youre saying.
        china seems to take the same approach as muslims… duno which one id prefer to take over 🙁
        
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        July 25, 2020 1:24pm
    - Nickc2
      
      I once offered the hypothesis that the spread of Islam throughout the western world was nothing more than a ‘sleeping army’ going about their business whilst waiting instructions for a final push to achieve compulsory adherance to Islamic doctrine throughout countries they had infultrated.
      Geez, did I get cried down for that. It was around then I realised NZ was devoid of free speech and this CoL and pandering Local Governments has certainly reinforced my views on that.
      I also believe there may be a minor clash of cultures between Muslim and Maori for dominance in Central and Local Government here in NZ. We will have to wait for further development on that one.
      The Brits rolled over and let Islam take over London and a few surrounding districts and that hasn’t worked out well for the locals. I’m currently wondering if the Brits will ever re-take London for themselves?
      
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      July 25, 2020 1:06pm
      - Two bob
        
        britts are gutless and wont act their brave folk got wiped out in world wars, there are parts of europe that resist (france hungary poland etc) but will succumb eventually mainly due to the woketards and cancel culture screaming racist at anything not said by them.
        
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        July 25, 2020 1:28pm
      - The Proper Ghandi
        
        It is impossible to subvert a society unless that society contains elements that are receptive to the subversion. The Blairites were mostly all past Marxists whose generation got itself into positions of institutional influence and set about the destruction of Great Britain. Islamisation isn’t something that happens, but is something that is actively done.
        
        But subversion is as old as society itself. Cicero was describing it in the days of the Roman Republic, circa two millenia ago:
        
        “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
        
        All Western nations are infested with treasonous individuals and the groups they comprise.
        
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        July 25, 2020 3:03pm
      - Nickc2
        
        The Proper Ghandi @ 3:03 PM
        Tks, you have confirmed my concerns, albeit better than I could. Is it a concern to Western Society? Of course it is, you can bet your Dhoti on that. What are we doing about it? Zilch. Our so called elected representatives are too engrossed in their self gratification and re-election (the CoL that is). What has our foreign minister had to say about it? Zilch again.
        
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        July 25, 2020 8:41pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Especially as an unmarried mother.
    
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    July 25, 2020 7:12pm
Happychappy

Listen to the Bullshit flow from our Prime Minister as more money is poured into Taranaki to help Labour take the in the region off National.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/122219979/pm-jacinda-ardern-reflects-on-taranaki-and-its-global-potential
This is just pork barrel Politics at it’s best by Labour and the Prime Minister with more of the billion they have borrowed for infrastructure being used for Election bribes.
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July 25, 2020 8:27am
- Tony Stuart
  
  The money “poured in” yesterday is small change compared to the money which has flowed out since the PM’s “Captain’s Call” HC. The voters of New Plymouth, Taranaki-King Country and Whanganui (which includes much of the oil projects) will vote with their wallets in September.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:25am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    It truly makes me angry. The global potentially is in energy and dairy. Both being rat ? f***as by the government.
    
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    July 25, 2020 9:52am
- calendar girl
  
  Five smiling and flattering photos of PM Ardern in one article about Taranaki (of all places)?
  
  Stuff ‘s sycophantic adulation of Ardern and her works is achieving new levels of absurdity.
  
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  July 25, 2020 4:00pm
the deity formerly known as nigel6888

Ah yes, but the Party signed off on the engineers report, so all must be well!
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July 25, 2020 8:29am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Is Cindy now an engineer?
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:19am
  - sooty
    
    She is everthing else, so why not one of them!
    Helps to get straight lines!
    
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    July 25, 2020 11:44am
Nukuleka

So an Iranian who attempted to enter Australia illegally and who came to New Zealand on a pretext has been granted refugee status. I wonder how long it will be before Mr Boochani takes up his pen to denounce the racism, sexism, homophobia and colonialism of the country that has given him refuge. He clearly has friends in high political places and I am sure it won’t be long before he, like others who have left shithole countries to seek refuge here, will begin lecturing us on our national inadequacies.
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July 25, 2020 8:29am
- Debsta
  
  Very well put! That is exactly the pattern unfortunately.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:12am
- Tony Stuart
  
  He already has Nukuleka – on Checkpoint yesterday afternoon, he described National asking questions as to his overstayer status when he outstayed his one month visa as “hate speech”.
  
  Let’s not forget who greeted him at Christchurch Airport last year; Green MP Golriz Ghahraman. Just another reason why the Greens need to be kicked to touch in September.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:28am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    ‘Hate speech’, eh? So he’s left a country where blasphemy can get you imprisoned and even executed, but still believes governments should be able to control thought and speech.
    
    He’s learned nothing.
    
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    July 25, 2020 10:14am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Au contraire, he’s learned a number of things very well. He’s learned if you can make the doleful doe-eyed look, some smitten ingenue will help you evade the law and gain residency.
      
      He’s learned his place high up on the victim pyramid, and the privileges that gives him, including being able to ignore immigration laws. And he’s learned the first thing you must do when you’ve successfully infiltrated a new host is to attack those that are on to you.
      
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      July 25, 2020 7:56pm
- Swifty
  
  Well said Nukuleka.
  
  I must admit to being wrong about Mr Boochani. Some months ago I wrote here rashly that I thought he would comply with the conditions of his visitor’s visa, and that his Green allies would pressure him to, so that he wouldn’t spoil it for the folk coming after him i.e. NZers would be far more skeptical of any such ‘visits’ proposed by similar people in the future – and the Immigration Dept far less likely to grant such applications.
  
  How wrong I was.
  
  I guess it shows just how bulletproof Golriz and her gang believe themselves to be over these sorts of matters.
  
  Just as a matter of interest, I wonder how much money Golriz and her mates have personally donated to this guy for his upkeep since he’s been here. Any? Some? A lot? Or has she simply required NZers to fund her crusades? Also, I wonder if she’d care to swear as to the date she knew he would not be honouring his visitor’s visa conditions, and the date at which she became aware he would be applying for asylum?
  
  Or did she in fact know all along? I wonder too if she actually encouraged and enabled it?
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:42am
  - Paulus
    
    Understand he has been appointed to a teaching position at Canty University – so we pay him big money too !
    
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    July 25, 2020 1:48pm
    - Jack5
      
      Covered yesterday in General Debate, Paulus.
      
      Ngai Tahu seem to have set him up with a post in the tribal centre at the university.
      
      Attention was drawn yesterday to possible danger from the Boochani decision to New Zealanders’ visa-free entry to Australia.
      
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      July 25, 2020 3:10pm
      - Nickc2
        
        As well it should. This has been nothing more than an upward thrusted middle finger to the Australian Government by our CoL Government. Communists to the core!
        
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        July 25, 2020 8:58pm
  - Grizz
    
    How can I take those Green MPs seriously as lawmakers. When the law does not suit their agenda, they just give a big Fuck You to the system and just ignore it. They lied and abused their privalege to get him a visitors visa with full knowledge they would ignore it’s terms. This level of hipocracy should be instant disqualification of their right to serve as MPs. They have put Parliament into disrepute. How can people trust Parliament and our judiciary.
    
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    July 25, 2020 10:16pm
- artemisia
  
  Immigration NZ said publicly at the time Mr Boochani arrived that he had given assurances he would leave in accordance with his visa conditions, and that they were satisfied that would be the case.
  
  OK then.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:47am
  - Swifty
    
    So he’s a proven liar then?
    
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    July 25, 2020 9:52am
    - Tricati
      
      Must be a ‘lefty’ then
      
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      July 25, 2020 1:21pm
- GazzaW
  
  Once Mr Boochani has secured his NZ citizenship which I am sure will happen with minimal delay he will no doubt be added to the Green Party List. The political ‘fix’ has been in place since well before his arrival.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:09am
- KevO'Brien
  
  He has become an international new item.
  Was this that ILG was really sacked for–being extra generous in immigration favours?
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:21am
- Ruahine
  
  A total piece of deceit and lies. All setup before he even arrived here. Of course Ardern a.k.a Sergeant Shultz knows nothing.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:29am
- Yvette
  
  If Behrouz Boochani wanted to apply for asylum, why did he not apply before his visa ran out?
  
  Back on December 20, 2019
  Ardern … would have liked a heads-up… Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway, in turn, blamed immigration officials, saying they initially told him that Boochani had applied for a visa but then neglected to tell him they’d approved it.
  
  Boochani could not be immediately reached for this story. When he was interviewed by the AP last month, he said he had no interest in returning to Papua New Guinea but wouldn’t be drawn on whether he would seek asylum in New Zealand.
   “I’m really focused on my work here right now. I don’t want to think about those things, or ruin my concentration. I don’t want to politicise things,” Boochani said at the time. “I’m a free man. I want to focus on this festival.”
  
  “I don’t want to politicise things … ”
  
  [1] https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/118352890/refugees-overstay-in-new-zealand-could-fuel-aussie-tensions
  
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  July 25, 2020 11:54am
- Nickc2
  
  Well said Nukuleka, you’re onto it.
  
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  July 25, 2020 1:15pm
MrLovebucket

Any guesses what day Winston will come out with a claim that he will abolish the racist Maori seats if re-elected?
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July 25, 2020 8:31am
- Tall Man
  
  Saving that pile of bullshit for the last week so he can’t be challenged on it for too long.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:12am
- Durden
  
  Someone needs to ask Winston what he thinks about the queue jumping scruff.
  
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  July 25, 2020 11:34am
  - Two bob
    
    asylum seekers and refugees will likely be exempt from his 15k cap.
    
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    July 25, 2020 12:00pm
- Nickc2
  
  Didn’t he promise that last election? Then he had to work with the CoL’s Maori Caucus and bow down to the dictates of Nanaia Mahuta and Silly Willy Jackson. If his mob are re-elected, he will no doubt have to work with them again hence his promise to abolist Maori Seats will be a non-event.
  
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  July 25, 2020 1:22pm
Tricati

Behrouz Boochani is already running down National, and suggesting they are dehumanising him for questioning the legality of his refugee status in NZ (I note Stuff has already taken article down)
National have every right to question how come someone who arrived on a 30 day visitors visa, days later state they have no intention of leaving, and is meet and supported by the Green party. I see he already has a ‘soapbox’ to stand on at the University of Canterbury, so no doubt we will be hearing more of the Manus Island que jumpers, and post the election if Labour get in, having them all arrive here.
There is something really underhand about this and National should keep digging and push back at suggestions they are ‘dehumanising’ people but only standing up for fair immigration policy and new Zealanders rights.
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July 25, 2020 8:33am
- kowtow
  
  stuff running down pale stale males , written by a stale pale male.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/122224197/entitlement-runs-like-a-scarlet-thread-through-nzs-political-scandals
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:34am
  - sooty
    
    Grant Sriminn scribbled that!
    Who?
    
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    July 25, 2020 11:56am
- Swifty
  
  Other than bland, brief and vague statements of ‘persecutions’ by the Iranian government, I have read absolutely nothing about this bloke’s situation in Iran before ‘being forced to flee’ – not next door, not elsewhere into the region where 40 million of his people reside, no, he had to flee to the West, to Aussie, and then bitch and bleat and moan when the Australian government had the temerity to refuse him admission on the grounds that he is a queue jumper and his attempt to immigrate to Aussie illegal.
  
  I would welcome from Mr Boochani a comprehensive, detailed and lengthy published explanation of his years in Iran so that it may be scrutinized by the world and evaluated for accuracy, balance and truthfulness.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:51am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    I’ve been wondering about that too. Obviously if he whines about ‘hate speech’ when national just wants immigration law applied, he doesn’t dislike the idea of governments limiting free speech.
    
    Should be quite happy in Iran then: prison or execution for saying something the government doesn’t like.
    
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    July 25, 2020 10:29am
  - The Proper Ghandi
    
    He is our enemy. You don’t let an enemy into your home, unless you are suicidal. Just look at the words that come out of his own mouth. He and the people who advocate for him hate New Zealand.
    
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    July 25, 2020 11:07am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “Behrouz Boochani is already running down National…”
  
  Looks like he is fulfilling his end of the bargain.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:03am
- Benedict Yu
  
  If this guy had been a white South African fearing for his life by thugs attacking his farm, the Greens would be not interested. They would probably shout racist at the airport.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:22am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Is he another Muslim?
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:23am
  - Nukuleka
    
    I don’t care whether he is a Muslim or not. That is not the point of the discussion, Kev.
    
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    July 25, 2020 11:01am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      I think we do want to know if he’s an Islamist, ie someone who wants to create a brutal theocracy. But sure, a relaxed Muslim who ignores the extremists and respects NZ law is not an Islamist.
      
      The latter should not be whining about ‘hate speech’ but respecting and defending free speech.
      
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      July 25, 2020 12:50pm
      - mark15
        
        Thats called ‘taqqiya’
        
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        July 25, 2020 2:12pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    A ‘yam’
    
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    July 25, 2020 12:47pm
- Swifty
  
  I’ve just listened to the NatRad interview with Mr Boohani.
  
  I’ve now lost the last shred of respect I had for him.
  
  1. He labelled as ‘hate speech’ attempts by National politicians to get to the truth of the issue and have it discussed openly. That’s disgraceful. It’s not only a misuse of the term, it’s also clearly incorrect. He cheapens the term by using it in this context, and treats NZers like fools thinking we’d fall for it.
  
  2. He repeatedly refused to answer direct questions from Lisa Owen about when he decided to apply for asylum and whether he came here knowing he would apply – and in not answering them also called such questions ‘politicisation’ and that he damned such comments. When Lisa Owen tried again and and said “it’s not a comment, but a question” he embarked on more evasion. Very shifty. I think he’s covering for his dishonesty.
  
  3. He labelled any questioning of events or his motives as ‘politicisation’ but what does he call Golriz and Dalziel standing at the arrivals lounge with beaming smiles? Was that not politicisation right from the get go?
  
  4. He labels his new job with Ngai Tahu/UoC as an ‘academic’ position. Just what will his academic work entail? Researching new medical drugs? Investigating and testing new building materials? Improving livestock performance? Curing infectious diseases? You know the real hard stuff that benefits our society?
  
  Or will be just be paid to write anti-Aussie and anti-Western grievance diatribes, as I’ve read he says he will? That’s not ‘academia’. That’s political advocacy.
  
  This guy is a con, aided and abetted by the dupes in the Green party – and at our expense.
  
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  July 25, 2020 1:19pm
  - hilaryt
    
    Swifty, well said. But about the ‘respect’ part, it’s natural to respect people when we know they deserve it, ie, they earn it. To date there is nil evidence that he should be respected.
    
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    July 25, 2020 2:22pm
    - Jack5
      
      Is this the Boochani interview you’re talking about, Swifty?
      
      https://youtu.be/_PwicZ_iRPg
      
      In this he talks about National [Party] hate speech, and says he has the impression that the people of New Zealand don’t tolerate hate speech.
      
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      July 25, 2020 3:20pm
      - Swifty
        
        That’s it.
        
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        July 25, 2020 6:19pm
Maggy Wassilieff

No need to buy new togs for your partner this summer, MaggiePie
https://www.rt.com/uk/495784-naked-facemask-underwear-london/
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July 25, 2020 8:44am
- Maggie Pie
  
  LOL!!
  
  But do you know the first thing I look for in a man Maggs?
  Whether or not he’s got dirty feet 🙁
  
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  July 25, 2020 8:53am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Goodness, Maggie, haven’t things gone too far already if a man has enthusiastically taken off his shoes and socks and you then see (or smell) the state of his feet??
    
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    July 25, 2020 10:32am
- Rich Prick
  
  Well, I suppose he is complying with the mandatory mask order. You have to admire his compliance.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:52am
The Proper Ghandi

What are the criteria for naming or not naming these absconders? Gee I cannot think what it might be.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12350866
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July 25, 2020 8:47am
- Tall Man
  
  Brown lives matter ……
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:13am
  - The Proper Ghandi
    
    “Brown crimes don’t matter”
    
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    July 25, 2020 9:28am
- Two bob
  
  iwi were trying to help them with an exemption to view the body and attend the funeral.
  
  When their brown privilidge was taking to long the turned to the traditional way of their ppl and just blatantly broke the law.
  
  nxt will be claims of systemic racism caused it
  
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  July 25, 2020 12:03pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Colonisation, it is always colonisation
    
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    July 25, 2020 12:49pm
- Clyde
  
  The fact that “iwi and maori wardens” were involved is a big enough clue I suppose. The damp bus tickets will, as we speak, be being prepared. Remember, one rule for all is something which needs to be stamped out as soon as possible.
  
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  July 25, 2020 12:04pm
Thought Criminal

Must be a few more rooters in parliament who are pretty stressed out at the moment.
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July 25, 2020 8:48am
- Gravelroad
  
  Why? Is there a law against it?
  
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  July 25, 2020 8:53am
  - Tall Man
    
    Only if ardern thinks so.
    
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    July 25, 2020 9:14am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Na, I think Labour has realised they are playing with a Chess Master.
  
  They’ve pulled their hounds back.
  
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  July 25, 2020 8:55am
  - RJ
    
    A chess master who actually knows where labour hAve their bodies buried. A shot above the bow to let Ardern know Judith knows everything
    
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    July 25, 2020 9:57am
    - MCos
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      Are you suggesting that Falloon’s activities should have been allowed to go on unchecked?
      Are are you suggesting Collins knows something similar about someone in the Labour Party and she orchestrated the demise of Lees Galloway as a warning?
      
      People talk about the Three Gorge Dam ready to explode. There’s been enough bad behaviour in parliament to warrant a good conduct charter.
      The public won’t take to kindly to anyone who politicizes stuff like that.
      
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      July 25, 2020 10:29am
      - Nukuleka
        
        Ardern has politicised it, MCos. Adultery is no grounds to have sacked Lees- Galloway. She sacked him because Judith had already dealt swiftly and decisively with Falloon, and so Ardern realised she had to appear to be just as swift and decisive as Judith. It was a ‘metoo’ move and it was politics.
        
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        July 25, 2020 11:04am
      - sooty
        
        Horrible Hagar is going to sit quietly tucked up at home doing his knitting?
        
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        July 25, 2020 12:01pm
    - Tricati
      
      I agree, but this muppet obviously missed the ‘pull back’ memo and is having a crack at Judith.
      Sorry I don’t subscribe to the Horrid so could read the whole article put the title say’s it all.
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12350424
      
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      July 25, 2020 1:29pm
      - Lance
        
        I read it
        It was as bad as you might suspect.
        He spouts forth several times that Judith is nasty.. nasty, nasty, nasty.
        One of the more unhinged scribbling’s I have read in the weekend Horald.
        Not sure what this sad excuse for a journo wanted? If she sat on it he would have screamed “dirty politics” but because she didn’t sit on it, it’s also dirty politics.
        
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        July 25, 2020 3:56pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        True, though they also published this (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=123507)
        
        Very critical of ILG, not so much for thinking with his little head instead of his big head, but more for the fact he’s been dead-set useless the entire time he was a Minister.
        
        It says a lot about how useless Ardern’s cabinet has been that his appalling handling of immigration matters has hardly been noticed.
        
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        July 25, 2020 8:29pm
Im Right

Have to say, the election is looking much more ‘fun’ now…and by fun I mean Arden is not sleep walking to a landslide MMP victory as she would have been under Muller.
Collins has stopped the lefty feminists from scathing ‘mysogynist’ tropes because Bridges/Muller looked at Arden a certain way or indeed said she was wrong on something and thus were bullying her and mansplaining etc etc
With these silly man haters out if the picture an actual debate about a subject can be had.
I’m predicting a Labour win, but with Greens and NZ1st under 5%….but Labour getting enough to govern alone.
And when Labour do govern alone, Arden will step down as leader.
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July 25, 2020 8:50am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Why would the fairy who brought them all the gold step down?
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:37am
Maggy Wassilieff

1.7 Million NZers on wage subsidy schemes.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/more-than-13-billion-paid-under-governments-wage-subsidy-scheme
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July 25, 2020 8:51am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Yes and the subsidies will stop a week after the election. What a coincidence.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:09am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    As I said at the start forget Treasurys forecast of a max of 10% unemployment. We are already above GFC levels and with hundreds of thousands on wage support.
    
    Even if the Crazy Left extend support like Oz Government is out to March 21 its only kicking the can down the road.
    
    No government can support a majority of its citizens thru the taxes of the minority plus borrowings.
    The maths dont work.
    
    Once the support stops I suspect the blood bath to begin very quickly with mass company failures within a few weeks.
    
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    July 25, 2020 9:18am
    - Tricati
      
      I would like to know the number of business liquidations since the lockdown, as its hard to find.
      I also feel the number of unemployed is skewed as it wont count those that have lost work but a partner is still earning.
      There seems to be very little coverage of the economic indicators/impact so I guess its bloody scary and not for consumption prior to the election; as Labour have no plan to deal with the fallout.
      
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      July 25, 2020 5:23pm
- Ruahine
  
  Happy Daze are here again.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:18am
  - sooty
    
    Lefties have been planing that haze for days.
    
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    July 25, 2020 12:04pm
  - Lance
    
    You mean the episode where the Fonz jumps the shark?
    
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    July 25, 2020 3:58pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  How many managed to repay it? I did, and any decent citizen who thought they needed it but found things went better than expected would have also.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:40am
  - alloytoo
    
    Anybody who qualified and then repaid it would be a bloody idiot.
    
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    July 25, 2020 12:12pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      One qualified by guessing how L4 would affect one’s business. The rules kept changing but it was pretty clear that if business wasn’t so bad after all one should repay.
      
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      July 25, 2020 12:54pm
      - Two bob
        
        pretty easy to run at a loss for a few months then to pay it back.
        
        it was a gold rush for many but thats the cost if the retarded CoL thought everyone would stay home and play happy comrade.
        to expect employers and shareholders to dig into their own $$$$ to fund a poor govt decision is delusional of course this was going to get exploited.
        
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        July 25, 2020 2:48pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        For many the future still remain uncertain. The subsidies kept my clients going. Even better, the change allowing a 2020 tax year loss to be offset against a 2019 profit which has brought in a pile of cash and ensured certainty of operations for another few months. Repaying the subsidy would severely jeopardise the likelihood of being in business next year.
        
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        July 25, 2020 3:34pm
    - Pateke
      
      Thanks for the insult Alloytoo. I took the subsidy but things picked up and I repaid what was not used.. I call that decent.
      
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      July 25, 2020 5:20pm
Maggie Pie

We were laying in bed earlier listening to ZB Sport.
My partner got all excited when he heard “….Sonny Bill Williams was coming home”
To me, he’s nothing more than a self-promoting dick.

Just saying.
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July 25, 2020 8:58am
- Tall Man
  
  The “ten million dollar man” who delivered bugger all. Using NZ as a staging post for his entry in Aussie I’ll bet.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:05am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  I got excited when he went to Canada
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:29am
- Brian McDonald
  
  So much jealousy, so little time.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:44am
  - Tall Man
    
    Not at all. He has always over promised and under delivered.
    
    Perhaps it’s other’s fault that allow him to con sports teams but I rate him on a similar level to “what’s in it for wynston”. Not a team player and the eye on the best deal for himself at the cost of others.
    
    He lost me as a fan many transfers ago.
    
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    July 25, 2020 10:21am
    - MCos
      
      He’s never over promised anything.
      To the best of my knowledge no AB or anyone else in our various sporting codes has ever said they’re going to kick arse except for pugilists who seem to be contractually obliging do just that.
      
      Our politicians, on the other hand, are a different kettle of fish.
      
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      July 25, 2020 12:59pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Really?
        
        Got you head in the sand again?
        
        “On Saturday, Williams walked out on a $2m contract with the Bulldogs, prompting NRL boss David Gallop to threaten him with a lifetime ban, and urge rival rugby codes to unite to stop cashed-up international clubs stealing local talent.”
        
        Seems pretty clear to me.
        
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        July 25, 2020 6:35pm
  - MCos
    
    All winter long we have had various high profile rugby players constantly in the news Beuden Barrett this, Jordie that, the other one injured, Dan Carter signs for the Blues and does nothing, King Carlos, on and on, Mrs McCaw retires from hockey again.
    As soon as SBW signs up for the Roosters it’s some sort of scandal.
    What religion is he again?
    
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    July 25, 2020 10:42am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Pretty sure his arse faces West – hope that helps?
      
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      July 25, 2020 11:08am
Tony Norriss

“Ideas are more powerful than guns. We don’t let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?”

Not a quote from the Woke Left. Rather from a quote from Stalin.
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July 25, 2020 8:59am
- Two bob
  
  why do you think theyre intent on curbing free speech?
  Free speech means spreading of thoughts and ideas that dont fall within the narrow definitions of what socialist or communist deems acceptable.
  
  1 small act or idea has the potential to change the world… cant let that get in the way of globalist domination
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:22am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Could have been from Team Cinders or Whinestone.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:26am
Ipanema69

Note to the national party re Palmerston North Candidate.

This kid William Wood has the potential to be another JLR. I’m not saying that this will turn out to be the case but the potential is there.

There is a small possibility that he may well win given the departure of ILG.
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July 25, 2020 9:05am
- RJ
  
  Why would you say something like that. The kid seems to be very grounded and stable. Nice way to throw shit at a young guy starting out in his life. Pull your head in and look at all the kids starting off in their career, the vast majority live productive life’s without going down any sort of path like that.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:00am
- DeepBlue
  
  He has achieved one objective, seeing the back of ILG.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:33am
BeaB

An anonymous (why?) story in this mornings Herald by a ‘former politician’ (who must have been quite a stunner judging from the number of colleagues she claims were lusting after her) asserts that the extra-marital affairs of David Lange and Rob Muldoon were the ‘worst-kept secrets in the land’.
We know the facts about Lange but was anything ever proven about Muldoon?
He may well have been a philanderer but has there ever been any evidence?
Blackening anyone’s name is reprehensible unless you can back your stories up.
The Herald, like Stuff, claims to tell us the truth. Show us your evidence.
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July 25, 2020 9:11am
- oldpark
  
  @BeaB 9.11
  That is why both fake news outlets have got the name thus . NZ “toilet paper” Herald. Followed by their partner in Slime . Stuffed Dominion “bag of shit”Post. Both are so full of shit lies and fake news makes one wonder if they are out to emulate CNN and North Korean hit squads as they support the far left lunatic fringe of reality on a daily basis.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:38am
Jack5

With the general election just 10 weeks away, is it suspicious that the Human Rights Commission has just launched a campaign against racism?

Racism, and alleged racism, will undoubtedly figure in the election campaigns of the various parties.

The Human Rights Commission is led by a former British Corbynist, and is staffed mainly by enthusiastic Leftists.

In one way it’s appropriate that the celebrity face of the campaign will be the Maori-Jewish film director Taika Waititi. In April he described New Zealand as a racist place, and that a a strong vein of racism towards Maori and Polynesian people permeated society.

One of his allegations of racism was: “People just flat-out refuse to pronounce Maori names properly.”

And there was his recollection that when as a boy he worked in a grocery shop he wasn’t allowed to work the cash till (register). As one of thousands of white Kiwi kids who as school kids worked in grocery stores or dairies, I and other delivery boys I know, of weren’t allowed near the till either. I’m not sure it would be prudent of shop owners to let boy assistants handle cash.

I digress. My query is: could this $1.3 million campaign so close to the election be a taxpayer-financed Leftist ploy to make racism a bigger issue in the election than it would otherwise be? Is the Leftist Human Rights Commission, subtly or not, trying to influence the election?

The political background of the Human Rights Commissioner, Paul Hunt, is covered in this article by Karl du Fresne:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/columnists/112101385/should-a-person-steeped-in-british-leftwing-activism-be-shaping-our-human-rights-policy
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July 25, 2020 9:17am
- RJ
  
  I went to the website and listened for the clip, strangely never heard any racism towards white people which is very prevalent in NZ today
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:01am
- Ruahine
  
  All of those useless bludging Commissions are there to get Labour re-elected and keep the easy money flowing.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:06am
- KevO'Brien
  
  If you want a racist look to the HRC. There are others here too–mid brown,whose chiefs were once butchers and enjoyed long pork from their living larders.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:30am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Let’s assume it is an orchestrated campaign – I don’t actually care. I have faith in middle New Zealand getting thoroughly sick of this tripe being rammed down our throats.
  
  John Campbell can weep all he wants, Pippa Wetzell can look all doe-eyed and mournful as she tuts and shakes her head slowly, you know and I know this is total garbage.
  
  I’m with the attractive middle-aged lady, can’t quite recall her name, who crushed the BS “diversity question” by asking what’s wrong with being white? She quite rightly refused to be demonised for something she has no control over (the colour of her skin; ironically the very definition of racism).
  
  Now if only I could remember her name, I’d love to vote for her party.
  
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  July 25, 2020 8:43pm
  - V
    
    LOL, Pippa Wetzell. Can’t remember her ever reporting from a war zone?
    
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    July 26, 2020 2:23am
Two bob

I dont think we should be bothering with the border quarantine thing just control the flow of travelers and make them self isolate with testing (make em pay a hefty bond and refund after the 3 and 12day test to ensure compliance) but seems we’re stuck with it so if its that important why the hell is it so pathetically guarded?
Tiny fences that a toddler could climb and a couple of braindead cops n guards that cant be fucked babysitting, and laws that will enable judges to soak bus tickets for a bit longer to make even more of a mockery of the whole thing.

if border security is that important then put the abscoders on next plane outa here and they can wait out our border restrictions elsewhere for the next x amount of years.

all I can think of when I see/hear about quarantine blunders is circus music. our country is fucking pathetic
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July 25, 2020 9:17am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  But looks like this story of quarantine blunders is falling off the Media’s radar
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/07/coronavirus-ministry-of-health-clamps-down-as-nurses-flit-between-managed-isolation-facilities-hospital-wards.html
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:52am
Te Rauparaha

Coronahoax:

https://principia-scientific.com/we-are-victims-of-the-greatest-crime-in-history/
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July 25, 2020 9:23am
- fernglas
  
  Can you give us the guts of it? I haven’t got 25 minutes to watch a video that may only confirm what many already know, and that is that while the coronavirus is real, the response has been a gross over-reaction.
  
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  July 25, 2020 9:58am
  - Tomtoddy
    
    Yep, more people die of the flu each year than died of Covid. Coleman made some predictions that came true. He reckons its a hoax buoyed by an unscrupulous media seeking sensationalism and Bill gates with some vaccine to sell.
    
    Seriously, he makes some valid points. NZ has gone down a dead end track – we have no idea how to get out of the hole that Jacinda built for us.
    
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    July 25, 2020 11:28am
    - artemisia
      
      The hole Jacinda built.
      
      Sounds like a billboard.
      
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      July 25, 2020 12:25pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Spade ready?
        
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        July 25, 2020 6:41pm
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      We usually lose 500 Kiwis a year to the seasonal flu. That’s very well documented. Every year.
      
      This year apparently no-one has died from the seasonal flu, and low double figures from the Chivirus, and only then over 60s. According to the NZ Govt.
      
      Given also that there was no enforcement by police of the iwi roadblocks, the 3-day 100+ funerals, and the Burn-Loot-Murder commerative Awkland Central protests; I am reluctantly but steadily starting to credit the NZ-based World Hoax conspiracy-theorists with some degree of insight.
      
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      July 25, 2020 4:44pm
Humble Capitalist

Some the subsidy payments our work are paying are absolutely lidicrous – giving some employees more than they ordinarily would have been paid this winter as casual staff. I wonder how Robertson’s ‘robust’ auditing process will get on?
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July 25, 2020 9:37am
- Two bob
  
  you guna dob in your boss for paying more?
  
  Makes sense to pay more if business was better then predicted, the moneys better off in your pocket then repaid and frittered away by the govt.
  
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  July 25, 2020 1:34pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    It was intended to be spent to distribute it through the community. It was not just a help to employers who had staff without work but had to be paid at least a reasonable amount.
    
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    July 25, 2020 3:40pm
Maggie Pie

It’s a bit of a worry when the only story relating to ‘The America’s Cup’ in this mornings Herald, is about a berth-holder who wants his $22k deposit back from Panuku, because he believes it will now be nothing more than a televised event 🙁
What we want to know, is what has happenwd to the $130 mil the Council has poured into it. What security did Phil Goff negotiate on behalf of Auckland Ratepayers??

Asking for a friend as well.
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July 25, 2020 9:48am
Right of way is Way of Right

From now on, anyone who attempts to abscond from a quarantine facility should be transported to a facility more in keeping with their attitude. I’m sure there is plenty of barracks accomodation available at Waiouru Military Camp for a cosy 14 day stay!
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July 25, 2020 9:51am
- Lance
  
  I would suggest a tent in Waiouru bordered by razor wire myself.
  Simple choice, behave yourself or the tent (in Winter)
  That makes it their choice that way.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:24am
Brian McDonald

I have to give Winston 1st prize on his election bribe. Inspired thinking. I guess he was groomed for such ideas by his former ‘big thinking’ boss the Robster.
Don’t know the economics of it, and doubt they are encouraging but best of luck to the southerners who might benefit from it. Takes some doing to walk on water even for the shortest time and great for a grass roots community to shine when most folks are talking politics or bleating about the roads. I hope they pull it off.
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July 25, 2020 9:54am
Rocky Jnr

Am I the only one who thinks Anika Moa has sold out?

https://youtu.be/WibKlc_lh5Y
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July 25, 2020 10:04am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  These anti-establishment folk are the Establishment.
  
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  July 25, 2020 11:03am
- Fletch
  
  It’s not like she’s selling albums these days. Her last one was songs for babies. Gotta make money somehow…
  
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  July 25, 2020 12:12pm
Happychappy

I doubt whether anyone agrees with Winston Peters or his Party on their stance on the new rape Law Andrew Little, Jan Logie and Labour want to pass through Parliament before they close for the 2020 General Election.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12350663
But Labour should go back and look at the record of the Prime Minister and how she was going to bring Jutise to those that were sexually assaulted or as I understand it raped by a senior worker that worked for Jacinda Ardern in her office. Jacinda Ardern the a young Lass under the bus to bury the story and save face for a Labour that has a atrocious record of sex assaults being covered up, Darren Hughes, young Labour summer camp and more and not a squeak from Andrew Little, David Parkerand many more senior Labour Politicians to help that young Lass.
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July 25, 2020 10:26am
RJ

A few cases you could excuse as simple error, but it seems to be more than that

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has asked the Department of Health to investigate following emerging reports of individuals receiving positive test results for the Chinese coronavirus, despite never taking the test.

Article
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July 25, 2020 10:33am
- MCos
  
  Sloppy testing procedures, if you read the article.
  The wrong person has been notified they have tested positive; meaning also that the wrong person has been notified they are negative.
  
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  July 25, 2020 10:50am
  - RJ
    
    Right the wrong person has been contacted ah, you obviously never read the article because the problems go far deeper than that with positive rates that are being reported later to be found to be a screw up. You might accept constant errors like this but the public shouldn’t. As I sad a few cases are a simple error, constant screw up there is more to it
    
    The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health’s positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.
    
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    July 25, 2020 2:49pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    MCos – Did you read the article? That’s not what the text therein saith.
    
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    July 25, 2020 4:45pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      He and Batman have a, shall we say, “interesting” slant on comprehension. That’s being charitable.
      
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      July 25, 2020 8:49pm
Gravelroad

I know we are in an election campaign so anything goes with the media but today’s anti-Collins cartoon by Jim Hubbard published on Stuff is a disgrace.
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July 25, 2020 10:41am
- oldpark
  
  Gravelroad .
  Completely concur . Stuff NZ have their backs to the wall with so much debt . Just a matter of time before they crash . With employees like Jim Hubbard greasing the skids with such a sick type of attack on Judith Collins .The crash will certainly be a lot sooner than any one could have forecast .
  It is little wonder they have been passing around the begging bowl to stay afloat . Maybe clowns like Jim Hubbard will work for free telling his alleged libelous pictorial lies against Judith Collins . Especially her being NZs next Prime Minister .
  
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  July 25, 2020 11:06am
  - Harriet
    
    I said at the time that $1uff will be liquidated after the election. I still stand by that.
    
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    July 25, 2020 12:53pm
    - RichardX
      
      So you’ve made a predication for something to happen on a date sometime between 20 September 2020 and the end of time.
      
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      July 25, 2020 11:52pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    It’s far from certain yet Cinders will be PM in October.
    There is a lot more trust in Crusher than Destroyer/non-performer.
    
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    July 25, 2020 3:45pm
Frank Hematuria

The sel-styled “renowned Kiwi Cartoonist” made a mistake, unintentiontal I’m sure, the colour of the bowling board should be red.
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July 25, 2020 11:01am
Jack5

Great battle between Federal agents and the militant core of the BLM movement in Portland, Oregon.

A Federal judge has denied the state attorney-general a restraining order to restrict Federal agents’ actions in Portland.

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/07/federal-judge-finds-state-lacks-standing-denies-oregon-attorney-generals-motion-to-restrict-federal-police-actions.html
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July 25, 2020 11:47am
- Jack5
  
  The battle with BLM continues in Chicago, too.
  
  After protests. two statues of Christopher Columns have been taken down in the city during the night.
  
  Meanwhile, to fight Chicago’s surge in crime, President Trump is sending 200 federal agents. They will collaborate with Chicago police and Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s office under the direction of US Attorney John Lausch.
  
  The federal teams will focus on “gangs, guns and drugs,” says Lausch.
  
  The New York Post reports:
  
  Trump is deploying officers to Chicago and also to Albuquerque, New Mexico, as part of the national Operation Legend anti-violence initiative, which is named for LeGend Taliferro, a 4-year-old shot dead in Kansas City.
  
  Earlier this month, federal officers were sent to Portland, Oregon, to protect a federal courthouse from rioters, and to Kansas City to quell violence as part of Operation Legend.
  
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  July 25, 2020 2:12pm
Durden

I am surprised that during four hours since General Debate opened this morning, no one here has mentioned the story of underage sex trafficking in Northland.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300065616/five-arrested-as-police-investigate-alleged-underage-sex-trafficking-in-northland

Pretty sure there are not that many “men of Asian descent” (as defined by the Brits) up there.
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July 25, 2020 11:52am
- Two bob
  
  Brown brothers pimping out their daughters? with the meth epidemic devouring the area id say thats a main driver of it, vagina is a great currency to help pay down debt and those that owe huge bux dont care for the person paying the debt.
  
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  July 25, 2020 12:11pm
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  A lot of couch activity? So, not news in Shane Jones’ fief. /sarc.
  
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  July 25, 2020 4:47pm
Fletch

I heard on the radio news that they were thinking about law changes to (rightly) allow teachers to intervene in fights etc in schools here. Then they had a sound bite from a stupid woman from Save The Children who said she didn’t think it was a good idea because there was too great of a “power ratio” difference between the adult and child. FFS – children aren’t supposed to be equals when it comes to adults. Children are not intelligent enough to know what they are about at that age.

Some adults are dumber, it seems. Save The Children used to be a great organisation before it was completely politicized with what appears to be liberal UN orthodoxy.
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July 25, 2020 12:02pm
- greybeard
  
  I heard that news item, and thought at the time that she had probably never had some large pumped-up kid confront her in a classroom.
  
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  July 25, 2020 12:43pm
- MCos
  
  Here’s an report on the subject, including this about the Save The Children response.
  ‘Children’s charity Save the Children has warned against giving teachers more power to physically restrain their students.
  It said children, especially the youngest, needed protection from the misuse of physical force in early childhood centres and schools.
  The council wants a legal assumption that teachers are acting in good faith when they restrain students, but Save the Children says that is an outdated idea that would create too much ambiguity.‘
  I haven’t heard anyone from the organization actually speak on the subject, but ensuring teachers can’t misuse the new law in unintended ways seems reasonable.
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/421904/principals-unhappy-with-changes-to-physical-force-rules
  
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  July 25, 2020 12:45pm
  - Fletch
    
    I know of a friend of a family who was a teacher and during a fight between two kids he held one kid back by his jersey. He was subsequently fired from his job. And this was over 20 years ago. Kids have too much say these says. Teachers are even being assaulted in the classroom, and are allowed to be called by their first name. It’s a total lack of respect. We would never have dreamed of doing such a thing in our day.
    
    I don’t agree with teachers thrashing kids (although there are many I know who said it made them the good person they are today), but this thing about kids having an equal power balance is liberal bullshit.
    
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    July 25, 2020 1:21pm
    - Two bob
      
      fired for that haha awsome, when I was 15 my english teacher literally threw me head first out the door flat onto the coridoor floor he never got fired or even reprimanded but mainly because he got 3 broken teeth and a bent bloody nose 🙂 and I got expelled for the 2nd time, most epic day of my school life and zero regrets.
      
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      July 25, 2020 2:58pm
      - Pateke
        
        Did you go to Tamaki College the same time as me then Two Bob?
        
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        July 25, 2020 5:26pm
      - info@cruzpro.com
        
        You proud of that?
        
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        July 25, 2020 8:00pm
      - RichardX
        
        Explains a lot about TBs posts
        
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        July 25, 2020 11:47pm
      - Two bob
        
        info, yup I sure was proud that teacher was a nasty guy and picked on my brother to the point he made several suicide attempts.
        btw I didnt do jack in that incident to warrant my treatment he gave me hence the retaliation.
        
        richardx what does that explain? That I have the balls to stand up for myself and not rely on a useless and biased system to get a result?
        
        Takes an awfull lot for me to raise a fist and since my school days its only happened once and the cunt that wore it was my sisters ex bf that beat the shit outa her and put her in hospital for several days.
        my words and how I use them settle 99.99% Of conflict in my life.
        
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        July 26, 2020 8:54am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qwnG7bwG84
CCP Member Travel Ban.

The Trump administration is considering denying CCP members
And their families from travelling to the USA. CCP members children
may be banned from attending US universities. It has not been set in place yet.
Visas of those already in the US could have their visas withdrawn. The CCP
Controls the military, courts, the MSM and education. Companies with
More than 50 employees must have a CCP branch.

I hope a lot of other countries follow suit. It might lead to the CCP dumping the presitator.
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July 25, 2020 12:34pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJiyloxPxEk
Spies or Students?

Some Chinese ‘students’ are spies. One was caught recently after a
picture of her in military uniform surfaced. Another ‘researcher’ has been arrested. The Houston consulate was involved in spying. Beijing has spies in a lot of US universities. The FBI is very concerned.
There is a new China related spy probe every 10 hours. STEM visas might be cancelled.
This will hamper their technology acquisition. So will the
ban on Huawei. Or as I call it, No way.
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July 25, 2020 12:36pm
Boxing junkie

Hamish Walker is now NZ’s highest paid beneficiary. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12350710
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July 25, 2020 1:05pm
- Two bob
  
  winston will top that at election time.
  
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  July 25, 2020 1:37pm
- RJ
  
  No, he’s an elected representative who still holds his seat until the election.
  
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  July 25, 2020 2:23pm
  - DeepBlue
    
    And successfully kept Megan Wood from setting up Managed Isolation Facilities….. Means to an end, and took a personal hit, but I imagine he will be respected in Clutha-Southland by quite a considerable number.
    
    (Why on earth don’t these young guns spend time in Parliament finishing school?)
    
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    July 25, 2020 7:14pm
- Humble Capitalist
  
  Will there be a similar follow up story on Lees-Galloway handshake payout?
  
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  July 25, 2020 2:50pm
- Lance
  
  I believe that is beyond the PM’s or any elected MPs control.
  You know… like the pay-cut announced to the world to great acclaim…….. that hasn’t happened.
  
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  July 25, 2020 4:04pm
- Tall Man
  
  Similar story on Newshub yesterday. I sent the writer the following …
  
  “Hi Zane
  
  Would you care to elaborate on how much Lees-Galloway will collect
  between now and his departure date, or is your outrage only directed
  towards a National MP?
  
  Cheers
  
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  July 25, 2020 6:08pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    Signed it “Tall Man from KB” I suppose …. 🙂
    
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    July 25, 2020 6:43pm
theoldbloke

I read with some amusement news regarding the Isolation of returning Kiwis.
1. People want to charge returnees a large lump sum
2. Some returnees seem determined to escape
3. The Government seem imbeddded in their current system

Seems to me that a fresh look could include
a) Having returnees pre tested before embarkation. Negative. Welcome aboard. Positive. Sorry buddy not boarding today
b) On arrival deposit a chunk of cash”($3,000?) into “”an account
c) Test on arrival. If any passenger tests positive. Quarantine everyone on the flight in a properly secured facility. Everyone test negative. 14 days in an approved facility with daily checks.

If anyone “breaks the rules” then they forefeit their deposit. Otherwise full refund on day 14.

Well blow me down. One Country does that already(except the deposit is used to fund tests and other expenses).

A leading High Tec 1st world Country?
Nope a 3rd world Country – Cambodia.
With buggar all cases, no lockdowns and no deaths.
Just a pragamatic approach.
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July 25, 2020 1:41pm
- Two bob
  
  cambodias border system shit all over cindies system since day 1, the media would never let a 3rd world country outshine her
  
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  July 25, 2020 3:02pm
Nickc2

UN issuse official warning to US about treatment of protesters. Did the UN issue such a warning to China about Hong Kong protests? Not as far as I am aware. This certainly shows who’s side the UN is on. The same as their WHO – biased bastards.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2020/07/un-issues-official-warning-to-us-police-on-using-force-with-protestors-china-meanwhile.html
What’s our Foreign Minister got to say? Crickets! It’s the weekend and Winston doesn’t work weekends unless it’s double time and a half I’m told.
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July 25, 2020 2:08pm
- Kabull
  
  I fail to see what internal protests have to do with the UN, which was established to ‘facilitate’ international peace and prosperity …
  
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  July 25, 2020 3:57pm
RJ

We need to look at how we do isolation with such matters as this, surely there is a way people could safely attend a funeral and head back to isolation, even if it is just the, and the deceased to say their goodbyes.

I would of also flee isolation if I was in this situation

NZ Herald

Hamilton isolation hotel dash: Teens accused of fleeing appear in court, were trying to get to dad’s funeral
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July 25, 2020 2:31pm
- Two bob
  
  pretty easy solution, the govt front up tell us they went OTT and corona is only guna kill ya if your about to die anyway then reopen the border and get the fuck on with life.
  
  cue the scared sheeple response….
  
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  July 25, 2020 3:06pm
- Harriet
  
  “I need to make it plain to you that the community I serve, the New Zealand public are sick and tired of people breaching the strict quarantine rules.” — the judge.
  
  This judge is full of shit —– as the public are long sick and tired of people breaching criminal law also, along with weak sentencing!
  
  He thinks he studied medicine instead of law at uni! 😎
  
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  July 25, 2020 3:23pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    This judge thinks the Virtue is strong in him.
    
    In fact the Stupid won out.
    
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    July 25, 2020 5:22pm
- V
  
  I would have escaped too given the nonsense the Ministry of Health was doing.
  
  The answer to our bunch of incompetants is called a LAMP test. Takes 4 to 15 minutes to turn around a result, rather than the ~4 hours for a PCR run.
  These people could then be on their way to see off their loved ones, maybe have a confirmatory PCR a few days later.
  The risk with this case of the family from Queensland would be negligible given there are bugger all cases there.
  
  There is no compassion at all from the government of the Princess of Kindess and the bungling bureaucracy. Its all about control.
  
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  July 26, 2020 12:36am
Nookin

The Greens have come up with a policy document that will form the foundation for its negotiation with Labour following the election. It is called “Think Ahead, Act Now”.
I understand that David Seymour has expressed his appreciation to James Shaw and will be using the title page on his billboards.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300065839/green-party-policy-launch-urges-voters-to-think-ahead-as-it-launches-negotiating-platform-for-deal-with-labour
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July 25, 2020 2:59pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  That document is in what can only be called New Zealand Pidgin.
  
  All feel good and fluffy ducks and Maori words chucked in where ever
  
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  July 25, 2020 5:01pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Might be time for them to join the Dumb and Dumber coalition….
  Party Vote Act 2020 ☑️
  
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  July 25, 2020 5:07pm
- peterwn
  
  Greens have some problems with negotiations. Firstly Labour may win outright and Jacinda will either leave the Greens out in the cold or throw them a few crumbs. If Labour does not win outright, it would probably seek Greens support, but Greens need another potential partner to have any real bargaining power. Going with the Nats is out of the question for the Greens. Or possibly Labour needs both Winston and Greens to govern and again Winston will not bother with the Greens and leave it to Jacinda to bring the Greens on board if need be.
  
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  July 25, 2020 7:45pm
Happychappy

So Phil Twyford and Jacinda Ardern cry to the public about being over ambitious in their quest in Kiwibuild and the 100,000 houses they promised to build and again set out to decieve the voter with more promises and the media go in boots and all to highlight the new plan.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/07/took-a-strip-out-of-my-hide-phil-twyford-admits-kiwibuild-failed-to-get-traction.html
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July 25, 2020 4:13pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Fauci right on the mark. How the fuck can anyone be that bad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GPjLbdfvA0&fbclid=IwAR0KyS2k8965-JAR6IYbxjimeaYrUvnc2j-EemjKq5wXvtIaP-NhaII8VaE
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July 25, 2020 5:00pm
- RJ
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdOSFbmyF_w
  
  Whoops, no mask. Oh no drinking water, damn, I drink water from a glass or a bottle, not from a phone.
  
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  July 25, 2020 5:35pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    He don’t need water. Reptilian shape shifter
    
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    July 25, 2020 6:03pm
Jack5

Hundreds of thousands turned up at the Hagia Sophia in Turkey yesterday for the first Friday prayers since the building was returned to being a mosque. Only about 1000 were allowed through security around the building.

Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, led the first prayers in the mosque, and about 350,000 people outside prayed.

The Guardian reports that In neighbouring Greece, bells tolled and flags flew at half-mast at hundreds of churches in protest at the move, and Orthodox church leaders held vigils describing Friday as a “day of mourning”.

The Hagia Sophia was the biggest Christian cathedral for a thousand years before being turned into a mosque when Byzantium fell to the Ottoman Turks in the 15th century.

In the secular Turkey of the 1930s it was turned into a museum. The Hagia Sophia is visited by about 3.7 million tourists a year.

The Christchurch Star newspaper reported last week that a wounded survivor of the city’s mosque massacre took part in celebrations at the Hagia Sophia to mark its reconversion into a mosque.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53506445
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July 25, 2020 5:01pm
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  Curious – who downvotes a factual report? Allergic to facts?
  
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  July 25, 2020 5:56pm
- lifesgood
  
  So sad and so unnecessary. It is just across the square from the enormous blue mosque and there are mosques all over the area. I am glad I went to Hagia Sophia a few years ago before this happened. When I was in Turkey Ataturk was a figure of great respect and adoration for his belief in separating state and religion. He will be turning in his grave. Turkey is going down the tubes. What a shame for such a wonderful country.
  
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  July 25, 2020 6:16pm
rouppe

A child is verbally bullied over weeks, then pummelled by another student, and the school sends him home on the bus, has a chat to the perpetrator and stands him down for a day or two. The principal and board “review their practices”.

Sometimes I feel like a parent should walk into the principals office to discuss the issue, then give the principal a bloody good kicking, and ask them if they stood down for a week from coming to see the principal whether that would be enough.

There aren’t enough consequences for teachers and schools not keeping students safe from thugs.
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July 25, 2020 5:56pm
- RJ
  
  Ah right, so your solution to bullying is violence. Good to know.
  
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  July 25, 2020 6:11pm
  - Two bob
    
    it works.
    Hoity toity rich kids generally get a free pass youve gota get in and raise fuckn hell to get things sorted and stop it reoccuring.
    im not saying go knock them out just go in hot and dont back down, a solid unshaven man pissed off and roaring at them gets shit done FAST and its very satisfying 🙂 the lil rich kids of the parents on BOT now get dealt to without hesitation!!
    
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    July 25, 2020 6:56pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Not sure where the “rich kids” crap comes from. Chip on your shoulder maybe as I very much doubt Maidstone Intermediate is full of them.
      
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      July 26, 2020 9:31am
  - rouppe
    
    What’s your solution?
    
    It has to guarantee that the victim is no longer bullied.
    
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    July 26, 2020 9:05am
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/122230329/one-crucial-question-will-decide-who-rules-us-after-the-election

Well, Martin Van Beynen, I have news for you: this question is NOT one which will appear on any Voting paper. At present, this question, created on your keyboard, is only in YOUR mind.

And you and I know that not many of the people who will vote in September will do so on the basis of an answer to your hypothetical question.

They will vote as always: what they did last election, or what their mates say THEY will do, or what their parents may have done , or what their friends and workmates might do after all those shallow boozey discussions.

Silly people will always vote for a personality, or for unrealistic promises.

Sensible people will always vote for a Party’s principles, and the larger picture of a nation’s future.
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July 25, 2020 5:56pm
- sooty
  
  Interviewing his typewriter, while looking in the mirror!
  
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  July 25, 2020 6:08pm
- hookerphil
  
  ” the response to Covid-19 has been a world beater ‘
  When will people wake up to the fact that New Zealand is heading to be the only Country in the World without this virus and the only Country in the World with closed borders.
  Probably well after September 19th.
  
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  July 26, 2020 12:07am
- rouppe
  
  Anyway back to this interesting question which was: “Do you think the country is heading in the right direction, yes or no?”
  
  We’re heading in a direction?
  
  That is a serious question, because limiting answers to yes or no is by definition not asking a question at all.
  
  For example: “Have you stopped beating your wife, yes or no?”.
  
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  July 26, 2020 9:09am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

20 days old. It applies to New Zealand as well. Want SOCIALISM? It is coming if the queen gets enough votes – do it at your peril.
https://www.facebook.com/thehodgetwins/videos/3447268175297063/
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July 25, 2020 5:57pm
- Two bob
  
  so who ends up in the mass graves, maori or pakeha?
  
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  July 25, 2020 7:01pm
  - Engelbert Humperdink
    
    Godwin Warning!
    
    It appears that there are no full-blood Maori left, so we’ll all be mongrels on the boxcars… if it comes to that.
    
    “We’ll take your guns, you don’t need them, and you don’t need to drive to work either, we’ll take you there. Just get on the Government-supplied trains which are always on time! And remember – we will continue to be your single source of truth and we will provide information frequently!”
    
    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/german-railways-and-the-holocaust
    
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    July 25, 2020 7:52pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/122280110/nurse-gets-struck-off-for-racist-comments-in-first-hearing-of-its-kind–then-walks-out-during-karakia
https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/122280110/nurse-gets-struck-off-for-racist-comments-in-first-hearing-of-its-kind–then-walks-out-during-karakia

Deborah Hugill sounds like a great person.!

I hope we have many more of these accounts in the near future..
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