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Happychappy

Kelvin Davis attack’s Judith Collins ‘desperate ‘ Maori Government speech.
Judith Collins hits a raw nerve in Labours He Papapua policy and Labour with the help of the media scramble to shut it down.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/05/kelvin-davis-attacks-judith-collins-desperate-m-ori-governance-speech.html
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May 2, 2021 8:02am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Davis, as a former primary school teacher, should be aware of what the word “separatism” means. The Cambridge English Dictionary defines it thus:
  
  the belief held by people of a particular race, religion, or other group within a country that they should be independent and have their own government or in some way live apart from other people:
  
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  December 2, 2020 8:36am
  - G152
    
    Actually Davis is a shining example of what is wrong with our education system.
    The whole system needs rebuilding from the text books up
    
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    May 2, 2021 8:40am
- Prince
  
  Labour, aided by their media, attack Collins for pointing out that the Govt has commissioned a paper on what aspects of Govt could be separated into Maori/Non-Maori lines.
  Have we reached peak Animal Farm yet ?
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:21am
  - CaptainCompromise
    
    What are those of us who are mixed decent do? Are we gonna be like the mixed people in apartheid SA? Too white to be Maori, but too Maori to be white? Or do we get a foot in both camps?
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:15am
  - Nickc2
    
    It never crossed my mind that I would have to choose a lifestyle for my remaining years along racial lines, but it is now obvious I will.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:32am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      They won’t get me that easy. My latent Irish anarchist won’t lie down and be rolled by an ignorant and now unlawful Govt.
      
      Ardern has sacked herself with her repudiation of Parliamentary authority.
      
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      May 2, 2021 12:56pm
  - Philview
    
    Calling it a ‘paper’ is an understatement. It is a roadmap with a timeline with substantial progress already made on implementing it.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:37am
- peterwn
  
  Hence the need for the proposed hate speech laws. Judith needs to be knocked out of action. If the media cannot knock Judith off the leader’s perch, then the hate speech laws might do it – she can hardly remain leader when in Arohata.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:24am
  - tf78
    
    peterwn, she can be leader of New Zealand. Great speech she gave yesterday no wonder the luvvies are upset with her – shows she is finally on the right track.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:43am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Ardern has to go first.
    
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    May 2, 2021 12:57pm
- Ruahine
  
  Labour and Ardern’s separatist plan is finally out in the open despite the MSM trying to keep it hidden for months.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:08am
- Rich Prick
  
  I’m fairly sure that next, Maori will be demanding their own seats on buses, down the back. If there is a circle, they’ve gone full.
  
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  May 2, 2021 10:12am
JibberJabber

If Kate is for it, then I’m for it…

https://asianinvasion2019.blogspot.com/2021/05/one-country-two-systems-would-it-work.html

He Puapua the piece of ~~word soup garbage~~ excellence compiled by UN aligned and sponsored Maori activists and useful pale woke idiots, seems to be the document of choice. Even the pretty coloured diagrams are incomprehensible in meaning. Do not be surprised, Nanaia Mahuta commissioned it.

. But seriously……

Chris Trotter has already warned of waking the sleeping taniwha giant of the white voting middle classes. Even Helen Clark and Winston Peters have smelled the madness of the new age Maori activist and their demands. Peters calling it “the final step on the road to separatism, this is the road to Zimbabwe”

It’s the ol’ story, be careful what you wish for…
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May 2, 2021 8:03am
- Paulus
  
  53% of the voters voted for it !
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:25am
  - lilman
    
    Yes Paulus you are exactly right,its not the Govts fault,it the bloody morons who voted for them.
    
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    May 2, 2021 8:51am
  - Steve Todd
    
    50.01% (1,443,545 / 2,886,420)
    
    See https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2021/04/general_debate_24_april_2021.html/comment-page-1#comment-2928996.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:11am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    It wasn’t presented at the ballot box.
    This was all hidden so is of dubious mandate.
    
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    May 2, 2021 12:58pm
  - Cactus Kate
    
    I am reminded of the most excellent of capping stunt in Auckland in days gone by where a pamphlet drop was made in deepest darkest Remuera suggesting a Marae was to be built on their lands. The Ardern supporting housewives of Remuera voted for that capping stunt. Don’t cry that they were not warned.
    
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    May 2, 2021 5:51pm
    - SB2
      
      Cactus Kate , I think you made that “on the hop” so to speak
      
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      May 2, 2021 6:31pm
      - Cactus Kate
        
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/74850726/penis-shapes-in-the-grass—another-weak-student-prank-but-sometimes-they-work
        
        As you were…
        
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        May 3, 2021 12:41am
- kevn
  
  @jib… and check out the derogatory MSM cartoons. Sleeping NZer’s have no idea whats going on.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:31am
- KevO'Brien
  
  How are we going to tell Maori from others? Are they going to be implanted so their genetic ethnic proportions are scanable? That way proportionate decision making could be enforced.
  What about tribal differences–these need to be accounted for too as reosuce allocation is involved.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:39am
  - CaptainCompromise
    
    Inter tribal issues might be the one thing that stops this. It’s already raring it’s head with names of NI tribes being graffitied in Ngai/Kai Tahu property in Christchurch.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:17am
  - kevn
    
    @Kev… One only needs to be 512th (Ngai Tahu) maori to qualify for inclusion in the Ngai Tahu tribal $y$tem.
    Get a DNA test folks, might be your lucky day…
    Anyway, seems a stretch to call oneself maori when all have varying degrees of ‘other’ in their bloodline.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:28am
  - Brian McDonald
    
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    I think the plan will be for you to have the implanting Kev, you’ll probably enjoy it.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:35am
  - Paulus
    
    No, like now increasingly so they will all have a facial painting called a Moko so they will stand out !
    
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    May 2, 2021 11:04am
    - GJM
      
      We could make it a QR code or barcode. Make the chin scribble useful.
      
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      May 2, 2021 1:55pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Another major issue. The Maori takeover of financial control is contrary to Parliaments sole sovereignty as to the expenditure of taxes.
  Wars have been fought over those precious rights of not having a bloody minded Monarch boss us around, tax us and spend as they please.
  
  Ardern & Co. are out of their trees. Her refusal to accept the Auditors ruling means she must go and immediately.
  Labour cannot do anything except talk, so how can they hold themselves out as an executive government?
  The French had to teach their rulers a lesson.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:46am
  - Brian McDonald
    
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    From someone that knows more about it than you Kev:
    
    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/judith-collins-campaign-against-m%C4%81ori-systems-won-t-win-votes-commentator/ar-BB1ggaeo?ocid=msedgntp
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:37am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      So says the MSM, and you know who paid them.
      
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      May 2, 2021 9:47am
      - SB2
        
        Who did pay them? Even her own right wing critcs like Ben Thomas?
        
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        May 2, 2021 11:31am
    - EssenX
      
      Who is Ben Thomas? I’ve never heard of him. I have, however, heard of Chris Trotter who has warned that these policies are likely to awaken a great white response.
      
      As I wrote that, I realised I am a brown person feeling that the “woke” are about to wake up a mob that will seriously push back in a way they never imagined.
      
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      May 2, 2021 10:23am
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      When you look at the link it was RNZ source repeated by MSN – enough said.
      
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      May 2, 2021 10:46am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      I won’t assist the ignorant out of the traps of history.
      
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      May 2, 2021 1:03pm
- Tom Hunter
  
  “the final step on the road to separatism, this is the road to Zimbabwe”
  
  Much of the NZ Left fully approved of that road for decades and only once it collapsed were the usual excuses trotted out about it all being Mugabe’s fault and so forth.
  
  Judging by this document, they still do.
  
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  May 2, 2021 6:42pm
Souvlaki

I note both Stuff & the Herald essentially attack Collins as being ‘racist’, but not addressing in any meaningful way ( or in fact mentioning at ALL ) the He Puapua paper.
This confirms both their dishonesty, and the fact they are unequivocally trying to keep their readers in the dark, ?under instruction from Labour?
Please keep up the attack National !
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May 2, 2021 8:05am
- greybeard
  
  What gets me is that to combat all of this supposed entrenched and institutional anti-maori racism the solution is to create more and more separate maori-based organisations.
  Surely separatism is the epitome of racism ?
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:17am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    Separatism is really the natural state. It is a matter of pure logic that if we had an effective monoculture, cultural separatism would evaporate. Since times out of mind, Humanity managed to organically organise and distinguish our societies from others, primarily along ethnic lines. This was done without UN directives and the like, because, as I say, it is the natural state. Ideological diversity policies are offensive to objective reality for this reason. We knew this for millenia, until we let ourselves be propagandised and convinced over many decades that it isn’t.
    
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    May 2, 2021 8:35am
    - Apropos of the Wet Snow
      
      Downtick me all you like, but it doesn’t refute my case.
      
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      May 2, 2021 9:40am
      - doublehappy
        
        What is your case, that is a very badly written blog. I for one don’t understand what you are trying to say. I might be on your side, but I can’t fathom that out.
        
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        May 2, 2021 12:32pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Aka the PRC’s “final solution” currently being inflicted on their population
      
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      May 2, 2021 1:05pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Maori however couldn’t live separately. They had to invite us or there would be none left.
      
      Separatism now would be a giant step backwards. Already activists are calling for the ancient customs of utu to be restored.
      
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      May 2, 2021 1:07pm
  - Ruawai
    
    How do separatism and diversity sit side by side in the leftist brain? Surely they are opposites.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:52am
    - Apropos of the Wet Snow
      
      It’s worse than you think then: they are synonymous. Diversity just means the subversion of (internally) non-separatist monocultures. Take a cohesive whole, shatter it into many incohesive sub-cultures by importing them, and then sit back and watch the place fall to pieces. It’s bad enough now with Maori and “Pakeha” issues. What do you think will be the inexorable result of also bringing in half of the third world and adding them to the mix? We are poisoning the well based on the hang-wringing delusion that people are equal and interchangeable.
      
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      May 2, 2021 10:18am
      - doublehappy
        
        It could be you are anti globilization. If that is the case I am with you. The beauty of the world is the different cultures in different lands. New Zealand was once European and Maori and a marvelous place to live. The great melting pot doesn’t do it for me. I love going to Italy, Portugal, Spain, etc etc and enjoying new cultures. I’m not so sure of wanting to come home anymore.
        
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        May 2, 2021 12:41pm
    - JibberJabber
      
      They’ve never been accused of being rational.
      It’s all about the virtue signal.
      
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      May 2, 2021 10:59am
  - Nickc2
    
    What’s the Wicked Witch of Morrinsville got to say on this? Surely if she had any sense at all, she would have stuck her head up by now and stated “this He Puapua thing is going nowhere under the Govt I lead”.
    
    COME ON CINDY PUT A HALT TO THIS CRAP!
    
    By not saying anything, it is obvious she endorses it and confirms her Maori Caucus has taken over the Asylum.
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:08am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Yes.
      
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      May 2, 2021 1:07pm
- kowtow
  
  TV3 “news” led with an appalling alliterative attack on Collins saying she’d pushed the big red racist button.
  
  Not so .
  
  This is a constitutional issue and that’s imho how the Gnats need to play it .
  
  And if they want to play treaty then , it’s sovereignty, sovereignty,sovereignty.
  
  And today that’s vested in all the citizens of New Zealand , expressed through the ballot box.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:31am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    “Racism” just means you don’t have any White guilt. If that is their only retort, then this indicates the right course is being taken. The litmus test is “will the media hate this idea?” If the answer is yes, then do it.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:39am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Absolutely. Collins has said quite explicitly that issues of this magnitude need to go to a referendum at the very least. And she’s 100% right.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:43am
  - oldgolfer
    
    O’Brien at her worst last night trying to hose this down.
    Collins should offer herself for long interview and wipe floor with her.
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:13am
- crikey
  
  Agree. Don’t rely on edited and biased reporting from so-called main stream media.Go to the National Party Facebook page and watch video there.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:33am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Hey poo poos is childish., like Taxcinda.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:48am
- Hacked-Off
  
  Souvlaki, This is Critical Theory for you (the ideology behind Vision 2040 – the He Puapua paper and Labour’s endorsement of it). The tactic is could Deconstructivism where you attack the man and not the ball. Critical Theory are short on facts and trying to refute the evidence that Collins presents would tie them in all sorts of illogical knots of reasoning and expose all their contradictions. Hence the need to smear Collins as being Racist in the hopes it will scare her and National into silence.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:50am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Nothing’s going to stop Judith Collins and her team now.
    Unlike Labour, National do things, make them happen–it’s their natural instincts.
    
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    May 2, 2021 1:11pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Hence the need to smear Collins as being Racist
    
    It must piss the Lefties off so much that Judith Collins has been married to a man of colour long before any of them jumped on the diversity waka.
    
    Look at Labour NZ — still being run by privileged Pakeha folks….
    
    PM – Pakeha
    Deputy PM – Pakeha
    President – Pakeha
    
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    May 2, 2021 2:51pm
Apropos of the Wet Snow

Sunday, 2nd May and Operation Indian Apocalypse continues apace. Everyone’s on message, with the blatantly obvious and deeply cynical intention of persuading (scaring, actually) the critical thinkers among us – who see no need whatsoever for a gene-altering vaccine – to let Cindy give us the jab. She’s already been giving us the jab for about 3.5 years, so no more for me, thanks.
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May 2, 2021 8:07am
- kowtow
  
  Trump stops flights from China , the Media called him racist.
  Biden stops flights from India, silence.
  
  A few weeks ago our Media kept surreptitiously running stories about Indians coming in on duff covid certificates ( they caught it on the bus) , allowing the Gubmint to manoeuvre a border closure with India …..
  
  ….. but now the International Media Party have hyped up the disaster in India to the extent that our media must now pivot to “let them all back in , quick”
  
  Proof that with the Media Party , you can have your cake and eat it.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:24am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    “Trump stops flights from China , the Media called him racist. Biden stops flights from India, silence.”
    
    Correct. We have a direct point of comparison now: anyone who still thinks that the vitriol and opprobrium constantly directed at Trump during his tenure was based on anything objective or on some universally applied standard (rather than on a purely astroturfed, media-driven and politically-motivated campaign to discredit a man who threatened their grip on power), is, frankly, naive and not a serious person. They clearly have no clue about the machinations involved in the politics of power. You all know who you are, notwithstanding your latterly deafening silence on your boy Biden.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:08am
    - BeeJay
      
      Oh, but how much more peaceful life is without fuckwit Trump’s verbal diarrhoea! It amazes me that there are still so many followers of the nutter, alive and well and living in New Zealand, when it’s clearly evident that he’s yesterday’s news!
      
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      May 2, 2021 10:45am
      - Apropos of the Wet Snow
        
        If “verbal diarrhoea” is the worst accusation you can throw at Trump, then that’s a pretty low bar for wanting to get rid of him and replace with a guy who has just repaid his, ahem, “election team” with multiple trillions of dollars of money that he doesn’t even have. But, you are probably correct: Anything! Anything except someone who’s only proven “crime” is being slightly uncouth.
        
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        May 2, 2021 1:26pm
  - Harrywenjie
    
    In the west, the right lacks brain, the left lacks integrity.
    In China, it’s the opposite.
    Mao Said this to Nixon in 1972, “I like rightists, People say that you are rightists—that the Republican Party is on the right—that Prime Minister Heath is also to the right. They also say the Christian Democratic Party of West Germany is to the right. I am comparatively happy when these people on the right come into power.”
    
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    May 2, 2021 11:38am
    - kowtow
      
      So why did he target “rightists” in his Cultural revolution that ended up killing nearly 2 million people , in order to keep himself in power.
      
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      May 2, 2021 2:51pm
      - Harrywenjie
        
        He likes “western rightists”, he means he likes honest enemy than hypocritical self-righteous lying party.
        
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        May 2, 2021 3:57pm
- CaptainCompromise
  
  It’s bad but only because of the population over there. 350,000 cases a day is equivalent to about 1000/day here, or about 80,000 cases a day in the States – about what they had 10 days ago.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:22am
- SB2
  
  Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  You a critical thinker ?
  
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  May 2, 2021 3:28pm
  - mainlander
    
    Quite likely. Unlike you, Kiwiblog’s dumbest commenter.
    
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    May 2, 2021 7:09pm
Tony Stuart

Minister for Homelessness Marama Davidson spoke at a “community justice event” yesterday, hosted by the Waikato Mongrel Mob Kingdom. Leaving aside the optics of a Minister of the Crown speaking from a gang-signed lecturn in gang premises, we should be grateful that Ms Davidson gave us an insight into her beliefs on the causes of gang crime.

I’m sure all those people who have been beaten, robbed, raped, threatened or enslaved into methamphetamine addiction by these fine, upstanding citizens will be glad to know it’s all because of “enduring and systemic racism”.
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May 2, 2021 8:13am
- NZpatriot
  
  Wtf. Does anyone have a video or transcript of this?
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:28am
  - kevn
    
    @NZp… Please let there be one.
    I can picture the tea and bikkies afterward, gentle chatting about future ‘plans’.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:30am
    - oldfella
      
      Did the Mob ask her to provide fewer roads and more cycle ways?
      
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      May 2, 2021 10:17am
    - Nickc2
      
      A covert briefing to a sleeping army perhaps?
      
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      May 2, 2021 10:24am
- kowtow
  
  ‘Leaving aside the optics of a Minister of the Crown speaking from a gang-signed lecturn in gang premises’
  
  Don’t leave it aside . get it out there . Pictures the lot .
  Surely the Nats still have access to one or two journalists or twitter or something .
  
  If there’s one thing that might dissuade the cosy middle class types voting green/labour that might be it.
  
  Trump got to his base by speaking over the MSM , maybe the Nats need to do same . Look at how TV3 attcked the Nats last night .
  
  The Media Party is not your friend.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:39am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Simeon Brown has photos all over Twitter and FB.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:45am
    - Ruawai
      
      Interesting in Simeon Browns tweet photos that the Mongrel Mob have Chinese letters on their logo and a Muslim speaking at the event, you wonder who is friends with who and where the funding is coming from. The naive minsters are being taken for a ride.
      
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      May 2, 2021 9:59am
      - Bluegrass
        
        Follow the money.
        
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        May 2, 2021 3:11pm
    - kowtow
      
      Great , now get them into the mainstream.
      
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      May 2, 2021 10:02am
    - Steve Todd
      
      Just been to his FB – nothing.
      
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      May 2, 2021 10:05am
      - JibberJabber
        
        Apparently, the mob version of the “block” is “systemic racism”.
        
        https://twitter.com/MaramaDavidson/status/1388342267572723715
        
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        May 2, 2021 11:17am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        I’d suggest you’ve been looking at the wrong FB page. I’ve just been to https://www.facebook.com/SimeonBrownMP/ and there are at least four posts there with photos of Davidson and Hunt, and a link to the media release he has put out this morning:
        
        Government shows its true colours on gangs
        Simeon Brown May 02, 2021
        The Government has shown its true colours when it comes to gangs, with its Ministers now openly championing them as advocates for justice, National’s Police spokesperson Simeon Brown says.
        
        “It’s astonishing that a Government Minister, Marama Davidson, and the Chief Human Rights Commissioner Paul Hunt accepted an invitation to speak at a gathering of the Waikato Mongrel Mob this weekend.
        
        “The Mongrel Mob peddles drugs, wields firearms and engages in violence, causing misery in communities across the country. They have no regard for their victims.
        
        “Waikato Mongrel Mob leader Sonny Fatu proudly claimed after the March 15 terror attacks that his organisation wouldn’t be handing back their guns.
        
        “Marama Davidson is the Minister for Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence. Turning up at this event disrespects the many victims of sexual violence perpetrated by gang members.
        
        “Her tweets calling the Mongrel Mob meeting ‘a fabulous community event for justice’ was an extra slap in the face.
        
        “With gang membership in New Zealand approaching 8000 members, it is time the Government got tough and introduce Firearm Prohibition Orders to give the Police new powers to take guns off gangs.”
        
        https://www.national.org.nz/government-shows-its-true-colours-on-gangs
        
        Keep it up Simeon!
        
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        May 2, 2021 1:27pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        Thanks, Tony. I didn’t include ‘MP’ in my search. Will try again now.
        
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        May 2, 2021 1:31pm
- artemisia
  
  An article elsewhere about San Francisco could equally apply to some locations here.
  
  San Francisco’s ‘perilous trifecta’ residents are ‘homeless, psychotic and addicted’
  
  So if there is a ‘perilous trifecta here (Wellington Central I’m looking at you) we should rest easy because there is this new Wellington thing called the Social Contract.
  
  Proof. Pudding. When?
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:42am
- Tony Stuart
  
  But wait; it gets worse. Staff from the Human Rights Commission attended yesterday’s “community justice event”, including chief Human Rights Commissioner Paul Hunt, a known and avowed leftie, who the taxpayer funds for a salary of $360,000.
  
  One has to ask the question; where was the concern for the human rights of victims of crimes committed by the Mongrel Mob Waikato, or do people who commit crimes because of ‘enduring and systemic racism’ get a free pass when they bash, kill, steal and peddle the misery of methamphetamine addiction?
  
  Big ups to National MP Simeon Brown for blowing the whistle on this madness.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:43am
  - Brian McDonald
    
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    You’re very excited this morning Tony. Is a “free pass” being sent to prison for all those crimes you listed the Mob has been involved in?
    No big ups for wee Simeon Brown he’s a hideaway, I liked him as a hobbit in The Lord of the Rings though.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:56am
- Stellaboxer
  
  What about the predominantly white gangs? Davidson once again gives away her own racist world view with her presumptions
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:51am
- Ruahine
  
  Gang members are actually the ‘shock troops’ for those pushing for separatism. It is easy to see where Davidsons beliefs lie.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:23am
- Steve Todd
  
  Leaving aside the optics of a Minister of the Crown speaking from a gang-signed lecturn in gang premises, […].
  
  A low blow, Tony.
  
  See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Mowlam. In 1998, Mo Mowlam was the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.
  
  Scroll down to Good Friday Agreement, particularly to this: “In an attempt to persuade the Ulster loyalists to participate in the peace process, she paid an unprecedented and potentially dangerous visit to loyalist prisoners in the Maze prison, meeting convicted murderers face-to-face and unaccompanied.”
  
  Sometimes, Tony, principled politicians don’t concern themselves with “the optics”.
  
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  May 2, 2021 10:13am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Are you arguing that Marama Davidson, who screams “racism” whenever anyone contradicts her, is “principled”?
    
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    May 2, 2021 1:29pm
    - Steve Todd
      
      I will answer this question: “Are you arguing that Marama Davidson, […], is ‘principled’?”
      
      Yes, I am. Specifically, she is a principled politician.
      
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      May 2, 2021 1:45pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Davidson is a race baiting Grifter who’s only appeal is to the Bigots amongst us.
        Hardly a surprise you like her.
        
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        May 3, 2021 8:10am
I remember when

Do the Mongrel Mob and Black Power highlight the part of the problem for Maori males.
Many are still stuck in the warrior mentality.
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May 2, 2021 8:21am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Why are they trained to be an international mercenary force?
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:50am
- Ruahine
  
  ‘Warrior’. pretty good at beating up their women.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:10am
- Paulus
  
  Phase two called Vegas is now on TV and is an update to Warriors.
  
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  May 2, 2021 11:10am
Maggie Pie

Indigenous caller to talkback-radio tells host….
Deputy Leader of the Maori Party, Debbie Ngarewa Parker, maintains Judith Collins speech at National’s Conference…..” virtually calls for war on Maori”.
Even Kelvin Davis agrees and also attacks JC, labelling her ‘desperate’.
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May 2, 2021 8:22am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  When you’re used to special privilege, contemplating equality seems like discrimination.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:26am
- KevO'Brien
  
  A more reasonable report:https://www.odt.co.nz/news/politics/collins-warns-m%C4%81ori-systems-education-justice
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:50am
- lilman
  
  Met the above MP in a shop in Waverley in Taranaki,she informed me she was pleased that farmers couldnt holiday overseas in Bali and spend “OUR” tax dollars.
  I saw the bar code on her chin tighten when I informed her “its their money,they earnt it and can do what they want with it’.
  God what a sour bitch.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:56am
Happychappy

When will abuse end for NZ Servise Woman.
Well that’s the wrong Question to be asking the present Government as their track record is not good when it comes to sexual assault and our Prime Minister showed she hasn’t the guts to front up and do something about it as shown with her response when allegations were made about a senior staff member out of her office.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/300290087/when-will-the-abuse-end-for-nzs-servicewomen
The media have short memories when it comes to the Labour Party and Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern especially after the way she treated the interns with her word that she would get Justice for them only to sweep it under the carpet when became obvious to all the Police should have been called to achieve Justice.
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May 2, 2021 8:23am
- mikenmildagain
  
  If you had read your link, you would know that this is not a problem just for the current government. Sexual abuse of women is institutionalized in the defence force, despite at least 20 years of half-hearted attempts to stop it.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:54am
  - calendar girl
    
    So you’ve got hard data to justify that sweeping generalization, mma? Let’s see it.
    
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    May 2, 2021 3:06pm
- kowtow
  
  Don’t fall into the trap of the Cultural Revolution , dressed up as concern for Wimmin’s Rights.
  
  The bottom line is the military is not really a fit place for Wimmin. And it shouldn’t be used to further left wing social policies. At its rawest it’s about killing people , that’s what everyone needs to remember .It’s not a very nice place .
  
  Many , many very fine people in it , some of the best even. But their job isn’t about hugs and feels.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:00am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Women are not fit to be killers. Only to be killed…
    
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    May 2, 2021 2:41pm
lazza

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Judith is going to have to do better … than beat up on race issues.

Failures of vision and leadership and “going low” will not cut it.

If the Nats do not soon rise to the challenge then its the political wilderness for the foreseeable future
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May 2, 2021 8:26am
- KevO'Brien
  
  The beat up is from the other side. They want to throw out the Treaty and reclaim all. Maori do race (inter-tribal) war well. Pity utu kills them off.
  The planning is horrendous.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:53am
- Monique Watson
  
  If you read the document He Puapua (it’s easy enough to find) it spells out Constitutional division with veto power for Maori in an Upper House pretty clearly. Cabinet is relying on sleepy thinkers and time addled journals like Tracey Watkins to invoke the ghosts of Christmases Past to turn on National but it has clearly underestimated the New Zealand voter by a long shot. Labour will get its arse handed to it on a platter because Kiwis will give a lot a fair go but don’t ever try to take away our Rights or fuck with our neighborly social contract. Remember the anti smacking debacle that spelt the end for Clark?
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:59am
  - ISeeRed
    
    The social contract got fucked when National and Labour started/continued mass immigration. Wanting to give unemployed New Zealanders a job over foreigners is now racist.
    
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    May 2, 2021 2:17pm
- rockape
  
  This is one of the most important issues facing NZ. It would be a massive constitutional change. I truly think if Labour and the greens and Maori party go down this line we will see blood on the streets and it may end with Maori in reservations.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:13am
  - Mike
    
    Fantasies about a race war might be a trifle overblown.
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:31am
    - rockape
      
      Maybe you want to look at the USA as an example.
      
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      May 2, 2021 1:43pm
- Observer of Life
  
  Lazza: How is pointing out a blatant separatist agenda “going low”?
  
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  May 2, 2021 10:41am
Maggy Wassilieff

The pathology of renewables, climate science and Government advisors

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/04/30/roger-pielke-jr-discovers-big-warming/
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May 2, 2021 8:27am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Why do you keep linking to pieces from climate cranks?
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:50am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Professor Roger Pielke Jr is a well-known political scientist.
    Not a climate crank.
    The fact that many climate alarmists are lousy statisticians and mathematical modellers is the reason they try to shut down Pielke Jr.
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:16am
    - Mike
      
      Ha ha. He is another desperate crank trying, without success, to undermine the work of actual experts.
      
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      May 2, 2021 10:34am
    - Okahu
      
      Let’s just accept your statement that “many climate alarmists are lousy statisticians and mathematical modellers”. What of the remainder, some of whom presumably are rather good if not excellent statisticians and modellers and remain “climate alarmists”. Are their results to be rejected and if so why?
      And is this “shutting down”of Pielke Jr you speak of the same as contesting his position, as scientists and academics are often known to do with each other’s work? And just how successful is this shutting down given that you are quite able to link to his published work and thus further distribute at will?
      Now if little b Burt or someone of his/her abilities had posted what you did we could all just shrug. But as you are proud to be acknowledged as scientifically credentialed and work in the field, perhaps you can assist with these concerns?
      
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      May 2, 2021 11:59am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
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        May 2, 2021 2:27pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        But as you are proud to be acknowledged as scientifically credentialed and work in the field,.
        
        I am not a climate scientist and have never made out that I am.
        
        I came onto this blog querying the methods employed in putting together the NZ Temperature Record.
        I am not convinced that the very new science of “Climate Science” is settled science.
        
        Why the heck these matters have warranted seven years of foul personal abuse against me by anonymous trolls, I don’t know….perhaps you could elucidate.
        
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        May 2, 2021 2:29pm
      - SB2
        
        MW, you must know that Anthony Watts has no academic qualifications nor graduated from any credible University like Purdue of Harvard etc
        
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        May 2, 2021 3:30pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Anthony Watts has no academic qualifications nor graduated
        
        Anthony Watts hosts a blog site.
        
        I believe our Host of Kiwiblog has not graduated from a University.
        
        So FUCKING what?
        
        Doesn’t stop Kiwiblog from being the most widely read political blog in NZ.
        
        Doesn’t stop WUWT being The world’s most viewed site on global warming and climate change
        
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        May 2, 2021 4:53pm
      - Jack5
        
        Stephie in a team with Mike/Mikenmild/Milky harassses Maggy W.
        
        What’s the collective noun for trolls? Shall we coin one? I suggest “shower”, as in a “shower of trolls”.
        
        Suggestions on line include “basement of trolls”; “bridge of trolls”; “malevolence of trolls”; “suppuration of trolls”; and “a moan of trolls”.
        
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        May 2, 2021 5:25pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Why do climate alarmists immediately reach for ad hominems when chaallenged?
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:53am
    - Bluegrass
      
      Because it is a theocratic argument and any opposing view is heresy.
      
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      May 2, 2021 3:17pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  There’s money to be made being a sycophant.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:55am
Paulus

What do you expect from the $105,000,000 media and those Maori who support Maori Separatism and the gravy train – which will continue grow financially exponentially.
Careful of the silent New Zealanders who dare not say a word.
Little Andrew will soon shut these people up legally calling any dissention hate speech ( and thoughts).
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May 2, 2021 8:31am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Cancel Culture should be called for what it is – FACISM
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:56am
  - kowtow
    
    That’s what you get when you judge people by their looks.
    
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    May 2, 2021 11:41am
Tauhei Notts

I have become angry about the vitriol heaped on David Seymour about him being a discretionary beneficiary in a trust.
And then I thought; if I settled $10,000 on a discretionary trust; the residuary beneficiaries of which were to be our four grandchildren; the discretionary beneficiaries to be all current politicians of the Labour Party and the Green Party;
the trustees to be Don Brash, Cameron Slater and David Farrar, who would have totally unfettered discretion as regards discretionary beneficiaries.
Can you imagine the discomfort that the likes of Gohlriz and Willie Jackson etc declaring that they are discretionary beneficiaries in a trust which has amongst its trustees, Cameron Slater.
Imagine their discomfort as they complete their “personal interests” register.
My wife would have the power to hire and fire trustees, so if Don, Cam and DPF misbehaved she would replace them. Also, and this is important, if any discretionary beneficiary brought a claim against the trustees, the trustees would be replaced by new trustees. That merry go round could continue until legal fees exhausted the Trust Fund.
Hopefully readers will now have some understanding about how David Seymour has been unjustly treated by the news media.
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May 2, 2021 8:32am
- KevO'Brien
  
  It’s strange, as the media have been promoting Seymour aiming to spit the votes. Are they now sensing Cinders has fallen out of the fireplace and she has to exit?
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:58am
- david
  
  With $10,000 in the kitty, your trust fund would be exhausted in a matter of hours rather than days, weeks or months knowing the rapacious nature of the legal profession.
  I do like the concept though.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:09am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Agreed. Ever more disgusting reportage from our abysmal state-funded media empire.
  
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  May 2, 2021 10:55am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    How many MPs declare their interests in their parents and grandparents houses on the grounds they may inherit them one day? The whole concept is mad.
    
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    May 2, 2021 11:50am
adamsmith1922

My thoughts on the articles attacking David Seymour https://adamsmith.wordpress.com/2021/05/02/sloppy-journalism-40-nz-herald-and-newshub-both-on-the-same-story-just-imagine-my-shock/
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May 2, 2021 8:32am
- Martin Williams
  
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  David brought this on himself by not declaring an interest in the properties as required. This possibly over several years in parliament. Hard to know when he was made a beneficiary because, as you say, the “story that leaves out key facts”.
  
  The real story of course is that David prides himself on accuracy of compliance and regularly uses others’ lapses to attack them politically, yet he wants us to accept he simply forgot to fill in the forms correctly over several years.
  
  It’s a shame for him, ACT, and the Tax Payers’ Union because one of their main vehicles for generating publicity (using parliamentary integrity as a weapon against others) has been severely damaged.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:01am
  - lilman
    
    Martin did you answer my question?
    
    Are you the same guy who voted twice int he General Election?
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:43am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      No, you’re thinking of Martyn (Martin) Bradbury, who was enrolled twice.
      
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      May 2, 2021 1:31pm
  - Matt Long
    
    The New requirements for Trust Beneficiaries to be made aware that that they are Beneficiaries and what is in trust’s assets only came into effect at the end of January, probably Seymour was unaware of he ” owned real estate” before this.
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:52am
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      As I said above, what is the difference between parents who own their house directly and those who have it in a trust? In both cases the children stand to inherit but only the trust ones have to be declared?
      
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      May 2, 2021 11:53am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    How would you know if you are a potential beneficiary of someone else’s trust that you probably don’t even know exists?
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:57am
  - MrTips
    
    I dread to think of the horrible twisted upbringing you must have had to continually produce such utter incoherent rubbish, day in day out Martin.
    
    Your mind is clearly a twisted torture chamber of misfiring neurons and spirit of malcontent. Seek help.
    
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    May 2, 2021 11:45am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  “So was this a deliberate attempt at a hit on ACT and Seymour?”
  
  Of course it was.
  There is no other reason for NZH and Newshub to allow publication of such an ignorant article.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:26am
  - Jack5
    
    Shaun’s right: the Herald is benefitting from the Ardernist newspaper subsidy.
    
    The Red Piper is calling the tune.
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:28am
mikenmildagain

The Defence Force has been trying for over 20 years to encourage women to join the armed forces, and to treat them better when they do join. The result: total failure.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/300290087/when-will-the-abuse-end-for-nzs-servicewomen
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May 2, 2021 8:41am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Privatise it?
  
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  May 2, 2021 10:59am
- JibberJabber
  
  Maybe they need to take a leaf out of the Mongrel Mob and Black Powers book on how to treat and attract women to their organisation?
  
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  May 2, 2021 12:07pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Some heavy Justice. $12M will never be paid.
https://thepatriotjournal.com/blm-rioter-justice-punishment/?
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May 2, 2021 8:42am
Maggy Wassilieff

Live broadcast of Easter Sunday Mass at Christ the Saviour Cathedral, Moscow.

https://www.rt.com/on-air/522674-easter-service-christ-saviour-cathedral/
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May 2, 2021 8:42am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Thanks Maggy. This is one of the great services of the year from this ancient Church. The music is amazing.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:03am
  - SB2
    
    Indeed but can’t figure out why the Russian Orthodox Church goes by the old Julian Calender. It seems merely tradtion for traditions sake.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:39am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      There’s lots of different calendars.
      Today is 20 Ramadan 1442
      
      Might be time for you to brush up on your Maramataka.
      
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      May 2, 2021 10:27am
      - Jack5
        
        I prefer the Russian Easter to ours with its chocolate eggs, whines about shopping hours, news bulletins about Easter weather and the holiday road toll, and Central Otago’s annual big bunny shoot.
        
        The Russian greeting, too (do Easter greetings survive in New Zealand):
        
        Христос воскрес (Christ has risen)
        
        and the reply:
        
        Воистину воскрес (Indeed he has)
        
        It’s impressive that Russia’s religious tradition survived 70 years under a hostile and brutal, atheistic regime.
        
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        May 2, 2021 10:44am
      - SB2
        
        The Julian calander was replaced by the Gregarian calender the one we use today. It is a lot more accurate as we well know
        
        The Calendar the Russian government like most of the world uses.
        
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        May 2, 2021 11:54am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      The Orthodox Church has existed for over a 1,000 years. Who cares what calendar they use? The people of Russia and the region are very firmly attached. Pres. Putin is one of the faithful too.
      
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      May 2, 2021 1:25pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Kali anastisi.
  I do not know the Russian for that.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:16am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The usual Easter Sunday greeting is XB
    
    “Христос воскрес!”
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:34am
- ABS4EVA
  
  Thank you, I am Kiwi Unorthodox.
  We bend over and turn both cheeks.
  But I really appreciate that.
  
  He is a picture of Australian Jesus as a thank you
  https://d3ecqbn6etsqar.cloudfront.net/aDvlkHFobn590kwiVqX6IN5sjks=/1440×720/smart/221574.jpg
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:33am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Do as I say, not as I do. The squad are hypocrites, who knew?
https://threepercenternation.com/2021/04/30/busted-new-receipts-expose-the-squad-as-complete-frauds-2/?
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May 2, 2021 8:46am
lazza

Tauranga Property Investors Association president Juli Tolley said the biggest challenge was the demoralising effect of the negative rhetoric on people.

“For all the hoopla about mental health and messages of ‘be kind’, the language used by both the Government and media towards landlords has been anything but kind. The messages have bashed the hell out of people that dared to save and work extra to get ahead and save for retirement.”

Yep … and as a recently retired landlord (Phew!) I can readily identify with these sentiments.

My experiences renting three properties were “not good”.

I (unwisely?) eschewed the services of a professional property manager preferring to trust and support people needing good (not fine) and affordable accommodation in a rural setting.

For my trouble I got:

A violent meth addict.

A druggie who stole my farming equipment and road trailer

An alkie lady with bad housekeeping habits

Numerous disgusting cleanups after vacating

Thousands of $$’s in irretrievable unpaid rent

I know … I know! … it could have been worse (gangs-meth labs) but that is the point.

My tenants were all vetted and apparently “worthy causes”.

Yeah right.

Getting kicked in the guts by this band of typical Kiwi battlers! has left a bitter taste.

I did not even breakeven on rentals after taking into account repairs, property maintenance and admin costs.

I hope the reporting of this saga is useful to others … as a salutary warning
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May 2, 2021 8:48am
- stewmar
  
  You should have got a competent property manager
  
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  May 2, 2021 10:11am
- artemisia
  
  A Wellington landlord in the media a few days back was recently in the Tenancy Tribunal trying to recover nearly $23,000 in unpaid rent. Different property but another one where the tenants countered with a whole list of issues with the property – all of which were dismissed by the adjudicator. (Similar list to last week’s media item strangely. Not.)
  
  People might say how did rent arrears get that bad. A Tenancy Tribunal case a few month’s earlier was taken when rent arrears were a lot less, and assume the order made against the tenants then required them to pay the arrears alongside current rent as that is the usual requirement.
  
  Clearly did not happen, plus tenants (who were evicted) left the place in very poor condition.
  
  I doubt the landlord is going to see much of the arrears, if any, but there is a long list of recalcitrant tenants now with names in lights in the TT decision.
  
  Just mentioning this case, which AFAIK, never caught the attention of the MSM, to support what lazza said. Now that it is very difficult to terminate tenancies no surprises that some landlords are saying sod this for a game of soldiers.
  
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  May 2, 2021 10:30am
Martin Williams

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I can see He Puapua long being held up as an object of fear by reactionary pakeha.

They now have something to grip feverishly with pink and shaking hands.
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May 2, 2021 8:48am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Wait until the working class whites revolt against Maori privilege.
  
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  May 2, 2021 11:32am
- KevO'Brien
  
  You do not understand what you are indirectly promoting.
  
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  May 2, 2021 1:27pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Cop got suspended for a joke vid, but the fundraising for him drives the left insane.
https://threepercenternation.com/2021/04/30/this-cop-got-suspended-and-the-way-patriots-helped-is-amazing/?
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May 2, 2021 8:51am
Tony Stuart

Those who are being so critical of Judith Collins should actually take the time to read her complete speech.

https://www.national.org.nz/leaders-speech-to-2021-northern-regional-convention

It’s also well worthwhile ready the Cabinet papers surrounding the Maori Health Authority, and the draft He Puapua document, to which Ms Collins has provided links. The Left and the media have rushed with unseemly haste to label her as playing the race card,but many people believe that it is in fact the Government practising or advocating separatist policies.
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May 2, 2021 8:52am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Dream on! Those who are being so critical of Judith have absolutely nothing to gain from, and no interest in, giving any thoughtful consideration to what she said. On the contrary they have a lot to gain by keeping the media so well supplied with “She was RACIST!” quotes that the media don’t have time or space to examine whether she actually was.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:11am
  - kowtow
    
    No the Media have no inclination to examine .
    
    And was the same with the “infamous” Brash Orewa speech . it was straight into attack mode .
    
    I think T O’Brien even referred to that on last nights’ propaganda blurb as “malarkey” , no shit.
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:22am
  - oldfella
    
    Albert, the media doesn’t have any INTEREST in a serious examination of the issue.
    Tova on TV3’s lead story last night even used the word ‘malarky’ (yep, malarky), to describe Brash’s Orewa speech and it’s promise of one law for all Kiwis.
    And TV1 last night didn’t even cover Judith’s speech. At all. Go figure.
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:31am
- Paulus
  
  Remember in simple terms regarding the media
  “he who pays the piper plays the tune”.
  We now have a Government owned, so called media, so get used to the 53% who voted for it.
  
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  May 2, 2021 11:22am
- C-Town
  
  Its a good speech. She say that National will uphold the three articles of the Treaty Of Waiting whereas the current government want to distort and break them.
  
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  May 2, 2021 12:39pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Still want that vaccine? I will not take it.
https://threepercenternation.com/2021/04/29/what-pfizer-just-said-about-the-vaccinated-is-absolutely-insane/?
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May 2, 2021 8:54am
- fernglas
  
  If you accept what is said in that article, that would be a good thing.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:02am
- MCos
  
  From the article
  
  “2. If a woman who was never vaccinated gets exposed to a woman who was vaccinated, she can:
  
  A: miscarry,
  B: spontaneously abort,
  C. poison a baby via her breast milk
  D: Have babies that have cognitive difficulties.”
  
  You really believe that shite?
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:37am
  - Mike
    
    Yes, he does. Once you have accepted Donald Trump as your personal saviour, other crazy beliefs follow naturally.
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:38am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      WTF has this to do with Trump?
      Get fucked Mike
      
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      May 2, 2021 3:04pm
- ABS4EVA
  
  Starts Revelation 13:16
  16And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,
  
  17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark— the name of the beast or the number of its name.
  
  18 Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is 666.…
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:38am
  - ABS4EVA
    
    JFK
    
    It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions–by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper.
    
    For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy
    
    that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.
    
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    May 2, 2021 9:31pm
- SB2
  
  Are you a follower of natural news and Robert Kennedy ?
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:43am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  For all you naysayers, as far as I am concerned this vaccine is untested. Those who take it ARE are the research.
  Last month I had a general anesthetic for prostate biopsy. I had a reaction and then anaphylactic attack. I will not take an untested vaccine for that reason
  
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  May 2, 2021 10:35am
  - Graham Sharpe
    
    How the hell is an allergy to an anaesthetic drug linked to potential problem with a vaccine? There is no link at all on any intelligent thought.
    
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    May 2, 2021 11:11am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The vaccine is untested. I had a nasty experience. BP down to 54/21. Two units of blood given, shitloads of oxy. Could have had a stroke or died.
      Not willing to take chances atm
      
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      May 2, 2021 12:10pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        With your medical history, you should be concerned about being protected from infectious diseases,like Covid and influenza. Vaccination is recommended, but you will probably still be okay if the the sane members of your community are vaccinated.
        
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        May 2, 2021 2:46pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The link is being injected with a substance your body may react to. Think about that Doctor Sharpe
      
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      May 2, 2021 1:47pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  More ammunition:
  https://www.globalresearch.ca/medical-doctor-director-diagnostics-laboratory-presents-cures-covid-exposes-dangers-covid-vaccines/5741876
  
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  May 2, 2021 1:29pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Your links to webshites like Global Research areonly ammunition for suicide.
    
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    May 2, 2021 2:47pm
  - cha
    
    Dudes a pimple quack.
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    May 2, 2021 4:15pm
- cha
  
  You’ve been at the elephant dung again, haven’t you Stevie.
  
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  May 2, 2021 3:17pm
- Kiwi_in_Paris
  
  The reported adverse reactions in the UK via the Yellow Card system stand at 1000 deaths and a million adverse. You can probably times that by ten, to get the real figures.
  
  To put that into perspective the Swine Flu jab was halted in the US at 4000 adverse.
  
  Thousands of women vaccinated and not are experiencing menstruation irregularities, including menopausal women having periods again many years after menopause.
  
  In Germany they are beginning to inject the kids.
  
  Would you really let your child take part in a clinical trial?
  
  The other thing I find interesting, is that anti-Trumpers are pro-vaccine. What is the link? I have a Kiwi mate who has two kids. He is actually advocating mandatory jabs. I really cannot recognize him these days.
  
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  May 2, 2021 6:24pm
Yvette

At the same time as Judith Collins utters her “desperate” comments against separatism, she announces National will stand candidates in Maori Seats, endorsing and condoning that aspect of separatism in Parliament, when Maori representation is at an all time high anyway.

And ironically. the Labour Maori caucus last term seemed to do almost noting – except destroy partnership schools, which (despite a few hiccups) were successfully delivering education to the tail of the system (the lowest social statistics, which may soon be “hate speech” to mention) – but schools which were a form of “indigenous” recognition that Willie Jackson and his caucus colleagues killed off.

Do either National or Labour know what they are doing?
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May 2, 2021 8:54am
lazza

Yep I’ll take the vacc … thanks very much. … says a late seventies chronic renal patient.
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May 2, 2021 8:58am
Maggy Wassilieff

Seems our MIQ facilities and security aren’t on a par with those in Australia

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/covid-19/441594/nz-s-miq-system-four-times-more-likely-to-be-breached-than-australia-s-report
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May 2, 2021 9:01am
- Master Mariner
  
  I would probably agree.
  Stepped of airplane from Singapore to Auckland after a very regimental and disciplined crowd control in Singapore with various International flights transiting S’pore.
  Approx 60 people onboard flight and once landed everyone hearded to gether crammed in on a bus. So much for social distancing.
  Same again when we got too terminal, All herded together and then found out they needed to separate Transiting passengers.
  Another 7 days left in Quarantine,
  Including quarantine in Indonesia , It will be likely 25 days total in Q.
  8 PCR tests.
  Such is the life of a seafarer now. What used to cost 4-5K US per crew now costs 20K upwards for repatriation.
  Mostly all seafaring countries dont rely on seafarers doing quarantine due to the very nature of being a seafarer, IE at sea.
  However NZ under all the wisdom of the “Fabulous Furry Freak brothers” mentality state otherwise.
  Hence the rise in costs and delays to the arse end of the world.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:25am
- SB2
  
  The paper it’s based on is not peer reviewed and the current outbreak in Western Australia would suggest differntly.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:45am
- oldfella
  
  Maggy, a great story for a political cartoon, except stuffed are all full up drawing Judith hit pieces.
  
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  May 2, 2021 10:34am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    NZ cartoonists are just state Lefty propagandists. Makes CCP seem honest.
    
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    May 2, 2021 11:59am
lazza

Marama Davidson reaches a disgraceful new low in Green List MP excesses. Are other Greens going to accept this? Just asking.
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May 2, 2021 9:04am
- Nickc2
  
  IMO, they all sing from the same hymn sheet.
  
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  May 2, 2021 1:52pm
Maggie Pie

Ricardo retweets…

What is the Mexican equivalent of ‘TAKATAPUI’ ?

Asking for a girl from tennis.

https://twitter.com/teanau_tuiono/status/1388048536323850242
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May 2, 2021 9:05am
- kowtow
  
  Takindapiss
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:57am
- tf78
  
  Maggie, I can’t believe how many people on twits have s..t for brains.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:58am
Yvette

Unfortunately for Ardern, by leaving the public hanging for years about the likely shape of new hate-speech laws, she has created a vacuum that has allowed speculation to run rife about what they might entail. As a result, she now risks losing control of the debate entirely even before the likely extent and impact of any new laws have been established. – Scoop

All this crap has happened before – remember?
After enormous speculation, the Tax Working Group presented its report on a Capital Gains Tax.
The population waited for Government to select from that report what it wanted to do and define more tightly what might be proposed as law, but Ardern didn’t deliver. A Cabinet void lasting several weeks was filled with speculation from journalists/would-be-politicians, actual opposition party comment and reaction from involved experts, which Ardern later claimed was us having a “Conversation”, then she went absolutely cold on it and threw everything out with the bath water and will not countenance the concept again while she is Prime Minister.
Although she herself favoured some sort of tax, she had gauged it had no wide public support so was gone.

So asked back in September last year – “What do you say to any politician or political party who wants to defend freedom of speech and believes that any expansion of those [laws] would threaten it?”, she responded with a beatific smile and raised arms, declaring triumphantly: “We take our lead from New Zealanders, our communities, and our societies…”

Like she did Capital Gain Tax? We will see.
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May 2, 2021 9:05am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Very astute.
  
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  May 2, 2021 1:31pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Fact checking Biden’s lies. What is it with the left and lies?
https://thegoptimes.com/fact-check-we-break-down-some-of-the-lies-of-bidens-congressional-address/?
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May 2, 2021 9:09am
- Inandout
  
  Steve, it is the old story the left is immune to blame. Joe has the media mob on his side, not by direct funding like NZ, but by promises of ‘favours’. That Congress address was like watching paint dry.
  
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  May 2, 2021 9:34am
Maggie Pie

No wonder I hate going out on the boat …..

https://twitter.com/diabolicalpree/status/1387598230385569798

(Full screen – Sound up 😀 )
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May 2, 2021 9:26am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That skipper is a jerk
  
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  May 2, 2021 10:38am
  - kevn
    
    @SteveO… Hollywooding in a fizz boat, it wasn’t even rough. Light on lifejackets I noticed, ie none.
    
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    May 2, 2021 10:55am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      At least the kids should have had jackets
      
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      May 2, 2021 12:14pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The rough bit was crossing a wake at speed. Something do to piss off my grandson. But then I am tethered to the kill switch just in case
      
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      May 2, 2021 12:21pm
Jack5

No word yet from Hager the Horrible and the New Zealand journos who hounded NZ soldiers in Afghanistan …

No word on how Hager and his journo cheer squad see Afghan women and girls being protected when Western forces pull out of Afghanistan.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14779497/woman-screams-brutally-whipped-by-taliban/
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May 2, 2021 9:56am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  I’m unsure how anyone within the American Regime can claim with a straight face that they are now (or ever have been) concerned about the rights and mistreatment of Afghani females, while at the same time declaring “war” on people in their own jurisdiction who simply disagree with them politically. This blatant double-standard includes keeping some of them in solitary confinement while awaiting trial for – oh, the horror! – trespassing charges (yes, that is all they have on the “Capitol Rioters” as a result of the investigation into their “insurrection” lol).
  
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  May 2, 2021 10:34am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Still banging that drum, Jack?
  Journalists are not the cause of the situations they report.
  
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  May 2, 2021 2:49pm
  - Jack5
    
    Dear Milky, a.k.a. Mikenmild, a.k.a. Mike:
    
    You don’t see any bias? You class Hager the Horrible as a journalist? You don’t care about Afghan women being whipped and Afghan girls being shut out of schools?
    
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    May 2, 2021 5:05pm
thirteenstars

From Bassett, Brash & Hide:

Sign petition to stop two-government tribal rule

Sign the petition. Link below.

“A Government plan to implement the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP) intends to establish two governments in New Zealand by 2040, one for Maori and one for everyone else.

These two governments would be subject to a monitoring group created by tribes and chaired by a Maori sovereignty radical, according to the plan that was submitted to Maori Development Minister Nanaia Mahuta on November 1, 2019.

All of this was done quietly. The Labour Party did not campaign on this in the 2020 election.”

Read the rest here:

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/sign-petition-to-stop-two-government-tribal-rule

Petition Link:

https://www.hobsonspledge.nz/reject_co-governance
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May 2, 2021 10:16am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Already signed.
  
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  May 2, 2021 1:32pm
  - thirteenstars
    
    Good for you.
    
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    May 2, 2021 2:01pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Thanks. Signed
  
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  May 2, 2021 6:56pm
Jack5

Red Radio has cottoned on to former National press secretary Ben Thomas pushing his claims that Collins’s leadership is under pressure.

It even describes Thomas as a “right wing” commentator. For RNZ, “right wing” means something different from what it means to the rest of us.

Panic on the Left about Collins swinging her sights to the Woke shows she’s getting the political rifle on target.

Once, the designation “PR” made it hard to get an opinion piece into the media. With Jacinderella coming from that communications world of bullshit, it now seems to be an advantage.

Here’s Thomas at the Leftist web site, the Spinoff. Thomas is having a crack at our Kiwiblog host, DPF (the Natonal MPs Thomas praises, Bishop, Stanford and Willis shouldn’t welcome Thomas’s support):

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/10-03-2021/is-a-war-on-wokesters-and-cancel-culture-a-smart-strategy-for-the-national-party/

RNZ promotes (of course) Thomas trying to lead National away from an anti-Woke strategy:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/441600/judith-collins-campaign-against-maori-systems-won-t-win-votes-commentator
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May 2, 2021 10:24am
Wired-one

Here I was thinking finally we are all kiwis, finally this separatist and divisive nonsense had stopped but oh no. Labour and their lackies have made this an issue once again. Not only will we see colour now, you must see it everywhere. I hate this government. They are the worst government in my lifetime, yet people dont seem to care? What the hell has happened to us! Judith and co may as well promise the world, it’s not like anyone cares when you dont deliver on it.
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May 2, 2021 10:50am
Maggy Wassilieff

No wonder NZ children are falling off the maths ladder.

Their teachers can’t teach the subject.
“The international evidence shows that we have amongst the poorest prepared teachers in the world … Only 37 per cent of our teachers have done a university level mathematics course,” he said.

The trainee teachers are coming in without basic mathematical skills and they’re given such a limited amount of instruction

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/teachers-feel-very-unconfident-teaching-maths-associate-education-minister
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May 2, 2021 11:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Same in Labour Govt. No idea of numbers
  
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  May 2, 2021 11:22am
- SB2
  
  MW, even if actually true and as I continually remind back to basic types like you it does not undermine, for some reason, producing high-quality graduates in the spheres of studies that matter.
  
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  May 2, 2021 11:44am
  - Swifty
    
    “…..does not undermine, for some reason, producing high-quality graduates in the spheres of studies that matter….”
    
    That raises a few questions.
    
    1. What are the ‘spheres of study’ that don’t matter?
    
    2. Do the 40% of NZ children who leave their schooling functionally illiterate and unable to perform basic maths also not matter?
    
    3. Does it matter that NZ children have gone from the top to the bottom of OECD education rankings since 1970?
    
    4. Does it matter that brown children are failing our school system in record numbers?
    
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    May 2, 2021 12:20pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    producing high-quality graduates in the spheres of studies that matter.
    
    Sure if you’ve been to schools with quality teachers throughout, or if you have parents who can fill in the missing gaps.
    
    But what about the children who are never exposed to decent maths teaching through their schooling…
    are they to be left by the wayside.?
    
    Folks who can’t get into police college because they can’t do very basic maths.
    
    Or do you think they should pay Kip McGrath schools or private tutors $$$$$ to go over the maths that should have been competently delivered to them by well-paid but incompetent school teachers?
    
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    May 2, 2021 12:41pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Try engineering without sufficient maths and get skewered by a random vector from a roof.
    Is skip counting now reduced to binary?
    
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    May 2, 2021 1:35pm
Maggie Pie

My partner bought one of those life-like Inflatable Dolls a couple of years back so he could drive in the T2 Lane.

What he didn’t know until recently, was that ‘sex – dolls’ were actually invented by the Nazi’s during WW2, in an attempt to stop the spread of Syphilis among their soldiers. It was in fact SS Chief Heinrick Himmler who wrote: “The greatest danger in Paris is the widespread presence of whores. It is our duty to prevent our soldiers from risking their health for the sake of a quick Wurzel”.
Himmler went on to say, “Let’s make rubber women who don’t have diseases”.

And so the top secret ‘Borghild Project’ was conceived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borghild_Project
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May 2, 2021 11:07am
- Jack5
  
  There’s a sinister side to the sex-doll business. Some of these look disturbingly young:
  
  https://www.cyberdear.com/best-japanese-sex-dolls/
  
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  May 2, 2021 11:25am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    They cater for all the ‘weirdos’ it seems.
    My partner actually able to get the amputee version so it could sit in the back of the Porsche.
    
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    May 2, 2021 1:05pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Your own link describes this as a hoax.
  
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  May 2, 2021 2:52pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You only ever pick the eyes out of links to suit your own slanted narrative milky!
    If you bothered to read the entire Wiki entry, you would see they even made a feature-film about it in 2009 called the ‘Borghild Project’ …….showing it to be FACTUAL!!
    
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    May 2, 2021 3:52pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://babylonbee.com/news/elizabeth-warren-barred-from-entering-country-thanks-to-indian-travel-ban?
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May 2, 2021 11:22am
Paulus

In amongst the enormous political angst going on who is not to be seen except at kindy schools but our wunnerful Cindy.
I assume she has been told to go below the media line for now and let her so called Ministers take the shit that she is avoiding.
No wonder Andy can see his future Lazarusian resurrection as he is still the Union favourite.
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May 2, 2021 11:29am
Jack5

The world’s oldest working journalist, Walter Bingham, 97, criticises current journalism:

““Today it’s all opinions,” he said. “This is the main change that I see. When you read a newspaper it’s opinion, not the facts.”

https://www.jta.org/2021/04/28/israel/meet-the-97-year-old-british-israeli-man-who-holds-the-guinness-world-record-as-the-worlds-oldest-journalist?
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May 2, 2021 11:44am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Shame about the good old days…
  
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  May 2, 2021 2:53pm
I remember when

“Newshub/Stuff: {Physical discipline still ‘fairly common’ practice among Kiwi parents – study.
The study found that parents who are younger, are caring for more children, and are in violent relationships, are more likely to use physical discipline.
A history of personal mental health problems combined with a socioeconomic disadvantage were also influential.”
All the results that most expected them to find.
Perhaps a study of the relative percentage of time the parents spent in direct contact with their children would also have been interesting.
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May 2, 2021 11:44am
kowtow

Customs workers sacked for not getting vaccinated.

So much for a labour gubmint protecting workers’ rights.

And I’ve no doubt that the Media party who seem comfortable with this would attack a “Tory” gubmint for same.
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May 2, 2021 11:50am
- fernglas
  
  The workers have the right to refuse the vaccine. The employers have the right to sack them if they can’t find suitable alternative employment for them. Sounds fair enough to me.
  
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  May 2, 2021 12:25pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    What about Nuremberg Code rights? There is no properly tested vaccine available–it’s all experimental. There are reasonable treatments if the bias and fear are weeded out.
    What next?
    
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    May 2, 2021 1:41pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Millions of jabs handed out worldwide, Kev. A lot more good than harm being done.
      
      Excellent is the enemy of good enough.
      
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      May 2, 2021 4:48pm
    - fernglas
      
      If the employees choose to stick an ultra-violet light up their arse and drink bleach, that is their right. If the employers prefer to have people who actually have some prospect of not catching or transmitting the virus, that is their right.
      
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      May 2, 2021 5:18pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        You’re making the assumption that being vaccinated is the only means of protection against the virus. Both modern science and a billion years of evolution say otherwise.
        
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        May 2, 2021 7:02pm
MrTips

Any political party that thinks it can contest the 2023 election by ignoring or not platforming strongly on law and order is in for a hiding, hopefully.

Our country is falling apart at the seams and the gangs + wannabes are emboldened to the point that in some areas, the cops are not their issue, the other gangs are.

If we don’t get on top of it, we’ll make Mexico look like play school.
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May 2, 2021 11:51am
fernglas

A guy named James Crowe was just on the midday RNZ news complaining about number plates beginning with NGR being racially offensive. Waka Kotahi says it will investigate not putting them into circulation. James Crowe and NGR?? Please tell me this is a piss-take.
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May 2, 2021 12:23pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  Oh, well spotted!
  
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  May 2, 2021 1:35pm
- BeaB
  
  Of course it must be and I have been waiting all morning for the media to wake up. Dumb and lazy all of them – and utterly in thrall to wokedom.
  
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  May 2, 2021 2:06pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I have a NGR plate.
  
  I thought it was no good reprobate, is there something else Mr Little?
  
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  May 2, 2021 4:19pm
Maggie Pie

I’ve only just realised that if i stand on the roof I can see Mt Roskill from my house.
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May 2, 2021 1:22pm
skyblue

Kiwi 1-2 at the latest Indycar race. Scott Dixon over Scott McLaughlin. Go you fast beauties.
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May 2, 2021 1:48pm
- greybeard
  
  Won’t be long before McLaughlin will be winning every time he starts.
  
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  May 2, 2021 3:28pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Biden is already showing America what a great President Trump was ……
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May 2, 2021 1:53pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Triggered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dye1_M0c8U4
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May 2, 2021 2:14pm
- cha
  
  Eat it, Stevie.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX8nicMsUN0
  
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  May 2, 2021 2:51pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  3 asses downticked, LOL
  
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  May 2, 2021 3:07pm
Prince

Can you imagine this appearing in any of our ‘diverse’, Government-approved media ? Herald ? Stuff ? Radio NZ ?
https://app.spectator.com.au/2021/05/inside-the-velvet-glove/pugpig_index.html
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May 2, 2021 2:17pm
Nickc2

Self defense. What charge would the woke police bring in lil-olde-nz?
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/05/taking-the-initiative.html
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May 2, 2021 2:24pm
- cha
  
  Self-service fuel filling is illegal in South Africa.
  
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  May 2, 2021 4:02pm
- [email protected]
  
  I love that! Protected himself, didn’t hurt the bad guys (other than their self esteem) and taught them a lesson.
  
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  May 2, 2021 4:46pm
Daphne Whitethigh

Meanwhile, has anyone else noticed that Group 3 vaccinations are now ‘from late May’ instead of ‘from May’? And that’s just when people can expect communication from their DHB.
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May 2, 2021 2:41pm
JibberJabber

for sale, White privilege card…will trade for victim card.
https://twitter.com/tibouchina47/status/1388609893217685506/photo/1
Don’t leave home without it.
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May 2, 2021 2:51pm
Fletch

Caitlyn Jenner, running for governor of California, says no way boys should compete in girls sports because it just isn’t fair. Watch liberals heads explode…

Caitlyn Jenner, candidate for California governor, opposes transgendered biological boys competing in girls’ sports, TMZ relieved Saturday.

When asked by a reporter what Jenner thought of certain states that have passed legislation to protect girls’ sports from transgender biological boys participating in them, Jenner said, “This is a question of fairness.”

“That’s why I oppose biological boys who are trans competing in girls’ sports in school,” Jenner said.

“It just isn’t fair. And we have to protect girls’ sports in our schools, Jenner reiterated.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/01/candidate-caitlyn-jenner-opposes-trans-biological-boys-competing-in-girls-sports-it-just-isnt-fair/

I’m sure they don’t know what to do. On one hand they have to support Jenner, but probably not saying stuff like that.
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May 2, 2021 3:34pm
- cha
  
  Yeah, what are Republicans to do about Jenner, the Republican candidate?
  
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  May 2, 2021 3:53pm
- NoCash
  
  Much respect Ms Jenner! As an Olympic gold medalist and a transgender herself, her view in this matter is gold.
  
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  May 2, 2021 6:41pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Once again Biden will not address this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aqrGd5ABvQ
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May 2, 2021 4:00pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  What is it with the Fox Woman removing the glasses all the time? Campbell shuffles papers and adjusts glasses, then stutters and stammers, but he does not remove them. Is it a news presenter action?
  
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  May 2, 2021 4:04pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    The difference is I think Stevie….is that Harris KNOWS her glasses make her look a bit dopey, whereas that dopey Campbell, he wouldn’t have a f – -ing cloo!!
    
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    May 2, 2021 4:32pm
Maggie Pie

FINAL of MAFS about to start!

Don’t miss it….

Later.
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May 2, 2021 7:00pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Don’t no why I bothered TBH…tonite was a complete load of cr*p!
  
  At least we’ve got VEGAS tomorrow @8:30 TV3 😀
  
  Catcha in the a.m.
  
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  May 2, 2021 8:38pm

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