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mikenmildagain

Happy International Midwives’ Day!
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May 5, 2022 8:02am
- mikenmildagain
  
  It’s also Lusaphone Culture Day, so feliz dia internacional das parteiras!
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:04am
  - Jack5
    
    For anyone-else who had to look up “Lusaphone” …
    
    Lusaphone is: either one of the 270 million or so people who speak Portuguese; or someone from one of the 10 countries that have Portuguese as an official language.
    
    As a opposed to sousaphone, a marching band’s brass bass that curls around the player.
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:35am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Or a scouserphone, which is what you nick from The PhoneLab in Liverpool.
      
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      May 5, 2022 12:00pm
- MCōs
  
  This crowd would boo Santa Claus!
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:44am
  - Alwynn
    
    I agree. I signed in just to be able to up-tick the Lusaphone day reference. That didn’t deserve all the down ticks it got.
    
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    May 5, 2022 4:34pm
  - Harry Knuts
    
    this crowd is getting about as mean as mean-school-girl-mallard.. down tick away!
    
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    May 5, 2022 4:53pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    I’m terribly sorry. I thought it said Fishwives.
    
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    May 5, 2022 11:00pm
- James Stephenson
  
  What’s an International Midwife?
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:00am
  - Taieri
    
    It’s an opposite of Domestic Midwife (or Midperson).
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:13am
  - MCōs
    
    It means the day is recognized internationally.
    
    Big words can be confusing.
    
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    May 5, 2022 12:00pm
- Simon
  
  But there is a small fraction who regard medical intervention as “unnatural” and don’t call for assistance in time when a birth becomes complicated, and this often has tragic results. I suspect there is a big crossover between that small fraction and the small fraction who refuse to be vaccinated.
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2021/10/midwives_refusing_vaccination.html
  
  DPF claims those who refused the jaxx are unsound medically.
  
  Recall all those who wanted mandatory vaxx. Low point. No coming back from that.
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:22am
  - Hebe123
    
    and now, as many of us suspected, time has allowed us to realised that those who refused the jaxx were the sound ones. It has achieved nothing, and damaged many. The way in which mandates were applied has damaged society and the wider vaccine programme for the foreseeable future.
    
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    May 5, 2022 12:52pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  What a sad society we have become. 10% of the citizens support Communism over 30% support Socialism. So thats over 40% who dont believe in free democracy and want the Government to wipe their arses. Just a bunch of free loaders on the back of those who believe in hard work.
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:26am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    All these young lefties should spend a year in cuba, venezuela, north korea, vietnam to get a clearer idea in their heads of consequences of handing over power to authoritarian socialist leadership.
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:11am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Those lefties could lecture the socialist leaders on how to do socialism properly
      
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      May 5, 2022 1:53pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        and the socialist leaders could then demonstrate Mao’s maxim (power comes out of the barrel of a gun, not from a from a mandate from the masses or from some farcical aquatic ceremony).
        
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        May 5, 2022 9:46pm
- alloytoo
  
  I’ll wait a week for Obstetrician Day 2022
  
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  May 5, 2022 1:42pm
Tony Stuart

Trevor Mallard cops a serve from Newsroom journalist Jo Moir this morning for the timing of his trespass backdown yesterday:

Jo Moir
@jo_moir
Incredibly disingenous for the Speaker’s office to send out the PR about the withdrawn trespass orders at 2.01pm once bridge run and access to ministers is over for the day. PM spoke at length on the topic and no doubt knew the PR was coming, but no mention of it.

https://twitter.com/jo_moir/status/1521675008506236928

Moir also gave the PM a serve, and rightly so. Interesting too this morning to hear Grant Robertson on ZB say that Mallard has the confidence of the Labour caucus. I wonder if he was told to back off Peters, Franks, King and co, in return for not being publicly humiliated by his colleagues.
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May 5, 2022 8:08am
- peterwn
  
  ‘confidence of [Labour] caucus’ – ie he there to protect the interests of the Labour Party, not to act impartially on behalf of all MP’s. So Robbo effectively admits that Labour is responsible and accountable for the actions of the Speaker. Robbo should have been able to say that the Speaker has the confidence of the vast majority of MP’s but of course that is not the case as Chris Bishop points out.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:15am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Robertson should have stated that it’s clear as time goes by that Mallard does not have the confidence of mist Mps
    
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    May 5, 2022 8:37am
  - Nickc2
    
    Ah, but Student Politics is different eh? They don’t have a Speaker, let alone a bent one.
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:55am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  One thing you can be sure of, he did not come up with this brilliantly stupid plan by himself.
  
  There has to be a very secret plan.
  
  If labour was completely incompetent and just randomly picking answers on the balance of probability, they would have got some right.
  
  So there has to be a plan.
  
  Tyrants are at there most dangerous when backed into a corner, mallard shows this in aces, on several occasions the Tyrant jacinda has let the kindness facade drop, yep yep that is exactly what we are doing.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:18am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I see the usual suspects are saying Luxon agrees with everything Mallard did, well I have looked and I can’t see one instance of him suggesting that, he may have said that’s a matter for the speaker, and it is, but the only thing is that Mallard wrongly tried to get mileage on was Bats voted so Ex MPs did not get different privileges than the public, well to all the fools that think that is supporting Mallard listen up, one Winston Raymond Peters just said on Hosking that he backs ex MPs being treated the same as the public
    
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    May 5, 2022 8:41am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I heard the vulgar Peters on Hosking , by god he is a hypocrite, saying that Mallard is biased, well we was the rotten turd when that same bias was being used by Peters to make things hard for Nats last term, it’s time this old duffer was put out to pasture, I don’t want to hear him say now that he is biased now he is out of parliament, what a rotter he is
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:20am
  - stewmar
    
    G, Is that Ageism? asking for a friend.
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:20am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Not at all FFS. I am 60 years old, what does she have to do with Peters being fine with Mallards corrupt bias when he was dep PM after going against the will of the people in 2017
      
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      May 5, 2022 10:36am
  - curry4me
    
    Winston Peters is a walking advertisement for term limits.
    
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    May 5, 2022 11:08am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It must also have caught some of the Labour MPs on the hop
  
  In the General Debate, Dr Deborah Russell made a big point about Luxon doing back-turns
  Meanwhile, the official Leader of the Opposition skippity-jumps and flippity-flops from one thing to another, leaving us all guessing about what his real intentions are.
  
  https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20220504_20220504_16
  
  (a point Robertson also tried pushing yesterday)
  
  But she seemed to be totally unaware of Trevor Mallard’s backflip.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:23am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Trev’s gymnastics yesterday were less a back-flip and more like a double backward somersault with pike, and two-and-a-half twists. However it was so poorly executed the judges declined to give him a mark even for trying!
    
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    May 5, 2022 8:27am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    What back flips? Luxon has always said that the holiday should have been swapped out for an old one, he still says it, but he also said now it’s in law that’s the end of it, how is that a backflip, why can’t the left understand simple English FFS
    
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    May 5, 2022 8:43am
    - Ehlana
      
      They can’t speak English G. Have you not noticed their increasingly incomprehensible mixed language pronouncements for the last year or three?
      
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      May 5, 2022 11:06am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Yes.
        
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        May 5, 2022 11:47am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    What about Labours back flips on virtually everything?
    
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    May 5, 2022 8:44am
    - rockape
      
      But G they only back flip on little insignificant things. Like child poverty, Kiwibuild and financial prudence.
      
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      May 5, 2022 11:32am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Exactly, nearly everything was back flipped. She back flipped on pension age and CGT as soon as the heat got Luke warm, Luxon has not back tracked in the holiday, he was saying we can’t afford the half billion, but now it’s law that’s it.
        
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        May 5, 2022 11:49am
  - nathie
    
    On last night’s news, Newshub “ambushed” Labour’s Dr Russell as she hopped out of a car when arriving at Parliament and was asked questions related to all this.
    
    Her response was to firstly ignore the MSM journos and then angrily claim moments later that she didn’t know anything about Winston Peters’ and Mallard’s trespass issue. Really????
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:13am
- Tricati
  
  I don’t think Mallard was told to back off as they are all as nasty as one another.
  Robertson’s despicable attempt of slur on Luxon, and Hipkins sarcastic demeanor on Hosking’s show yesterday shows the lowering of their Poll figures, and the fact they are bloody useless, is starting to get at them, so they revert to type – Just bullies.
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/05/grant-robertson-lets-rip-at-luxon-says-national-s-mr-gaffe-man-suggested-his-mps-bit-thick.html
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:24am
  - Cinematic
    
    Wow what a bizarre speech. Luxon would totally destroy Robertson both intellectually and physically. Get in the ring Robertson!
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:41am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Pillar biting gymnastics
      
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      May 5, 2022 11:50am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Their hatred will be their undoing, have you noticed Luxon has never once taken the bate of their sneering, and he has never done a point of order ehrn Labour are continually rubbishing Nats in their answers, he has been well skilled by someone, and hat has not been drilled into him by Key, someone else is advising him, he knows not to take the bait, let the vulgar bastards sneer him, the support is going with him.
    Robertson also said yesterday that Nats are doin to be for a large drop in the polls, what the he’ll is the idiot talking about, once the public turn on you, only a change in government will get you back up in the polls.
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:41am
- Frank the tank
  
  Poor man’s Gordon Brown would have known about this right from the get go. It appears the government has David Brent as their chief political strategist.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:29am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Robertson was the dirty tactics scum in Clarks office when she was PM , they say all the nasty stuff was designed by him
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:50am
- Rodney Hide
  
  “Dear Mr Sclater
  
  Privacy Act Request
  
  I have not heard back from you.
  
  Accordingly, please provide to me all the material Parliamentary Services hold concerning me including reports, memos, notes, video recording, including information held in the minds of officials, that identified me as a person to whom a trespass notice should be issued.
  
  Please acknowledge receipt of this request.
  
  Sincerely
  
  Rodney Hide”
  
  I should note I did not get a tresspass notice but an email that the notice that I didn’t get had been withdrawn.
  
  Rodney Hide
  
  Rodney Hide
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:36am
  - Tomtoddy
    
    Cant even run a few emails let alone a country. Dont back off Rodney. Keep hounding the incompetent scoundrels and bullies.
    
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    May 5, 2022 8:42am
    - Nickc2
      
      scoundrels That’s a bit limp wristed. Tell it like it is FFS.
      
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      May 5, 2022 10:08am
  - cmm
    
    It is somewhat chilling to think that Parliamentary Services seem to be running their own little “secret police” keeping dossiers on politicians.
    
    Rodney: I am curious. How long do they have to respond? How long do they have to acknowledge receipt of the request?
    
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    May 5, 2022 8:46am
    - Rodney Hide
      
      Well, they are running security for Parliament so you would expect a list of troublemakers. I would hope I am on it!
      
      They have 20 working days. They will get an email every day until they acknowledge receipt.
      
      best
      
      Rodney
      
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      May 5, 2022 8:57am
      - Local Miller
        
        Keep us abreast of progress
        
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        May 5, 2022 9:13am
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        I thought Parliamentary Services is exempt from the OIA?
        
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        May 5, 2022 12:01pm
      - Rodney Hide
        
        Yes. But not the privacy act.
        
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        May 5, 2022 1:49pm
  - Aquataur
    
    Rodney – the other approach is to request under the Privacy Act all information that they hold about you. There are fewer reasons to withhold information, and the Privacy Commissioner seems to work faster and have more clout than the Ombudsman. In addition, I think there are penalties for not complying with the Act that are not available under the OIA
    John C
    
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    May 6, 2022 10:05am
    - Aquataur
      
      Sorry – just checked your original post – you are using the Privacy Act!
      
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      May 6, 2022 10:58am
- pdm
  
  Inv Mallard probably does not need the Labour Caucus to humiliate him.
  
  Self humiliation is his second most obvious talent after bullying.
  
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  May 5, 2022 10:41am
- Thought Criminal
  
  I wonder if Labour has literally anyone who could replace Mallard? Do they have anyone who has the necessary prerequisites?
  
  1. Actually understands how parliament works.
  2. Can stay awake and listen for more than a few minutes at a time.
  
  Maybe that’s why they protect him.
  
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  May 5, 2022 11:43am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    The deputy was running the show today, he is more fair , but i did notice the last two days he was blocking point of orders
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:05pm
- Gravelroad
  
  I was surprised listening to that Hosking interview this morning with the soft-in-the-head Robertson.
  Hosking didn’t really challenge him on anything – just let him waffle out the party line.
  Maybe Hosking has been told to back off.
  Next will be Heather DuPlessis Allen who will be pegged back. She gave that idiotic Police Minister a real going over last night.
  
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  May 5, 2022 12:26pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    Being a new chum on the Hosking site I was surprised that the government ads were still running and the news was still a muted version of the Gummitt version. I was expecting full blown “getting the truth’ about government….. slightly better than a wet bus ticket that’s all. The questions weak and the only redemption the comments after the interviewee has gone which is cowardly really. Just enough to keep the Punters happy I suppose. Pretend opposition. In the troughs on the edges maybe.
    
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    May 5, 2022 1:50pm
  - Countrygirl
    
    Where is Coster? Haven’t heard from him since the protest.
    
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    May 5, 2022 4:33pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I think he rowed with rotten government leading up to the standoff
      
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      May 5, 2022 9:09pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They will not touch Hosking, he has just smashed the record for listeners again , i suggest that is also a good guide to people waking up to this rotten government, Cindy will be gutted thinking that Hosking would lose support now she is not on this year, thing is more are listening because her bullshit is not on, Cindy grinning with Tova after new job will be seriously disappointed
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:08pm
slightlyrighty

2 things are becoming obvious at present in NZ Politics.

1. Labour is protecting Mallard in the Speakers Role, as Mallard protects Labour in the house.

2. There is a likelihood of Te Pati Maari holding the balance of power in the election next year.

The beauty of this is both narratives play into the hands of the Center Right, and both stories are too juicy to be ignored by the MSM. The Te Pati Maari story is guaranteed clickbait, and they have no love for Mallard!
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May 5, 2022 8:12am
- Local Miller
  
  The problem is the Maori Party have said the won’t work with Act, so if they hold the balance of power they either go with Liebour/Greens or allow one of the coalition groups to form a minority government. As I see it in NZ a minority government is pretty much a lame duck as it will be a constant battle to get any legislation passed.
  Our best hope is that the current trend continues and National/Act get enough votes to form a government, leaving all the rest in opposition.
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:18am
  - David Garrett
    
    Local: You are assuming that not getting legislation passed is a bad thing. I disagree; we already have a whole pile of laws on the books that are either no longer fit for purpose (if they ever were) or are now redundant.
    
    There is an ancient common law principle which still applies here: “that which is not illegal is legal.” In other words if there is no law against doing X, then X is legal.
    
    During and after my time I tried to persuade ACT that for every law we supported one had to be repealed. As I say, there are literally hundreds of such candidates. Noone was interested in my idea.
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:35am
    - artemisia
      
      There were a lot of statutes repealed back in 2015 and David Seymour was involved. Not exactly what you proposed DG but better than nothing. Had a vague idea that a party (National?) a few years back has as election policy to repeal 2 regs for each new one. Time to get that back on the agenda.
      
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      May 5, 2022 10:01am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      A minority government typically still gets legislation passed. What changes is that they have to bribe a whole lot more people with taxpayers’ money in order to get the votes.
      
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      May 5, 2022 10:26am
    - Local Miller
      
      DDG, not at all, to me getting legislation passed is not only about “new” law, but fixing/updating poor existing law, and as you say scrapping obsolete law, like the one in England that was supposed to be on the books until relatively recently about needing a runner with a red flag in front of your automobile! I’m not sure if this is true or not, but it servers the point. Laws are enacted but never get removed. I’m with you 100% for each new law enacted an old one must be removed. But me concern still stands, with a minority government you have to get cross party support to get anything done. You then get a lot of horse trading and “I’ll support yours if you support mine”, or nothing gets done because the Maori won’t support anything from Act, and Liebour won’t support anything from National and,… you get my point I’m sure.
      
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      May 5, 2022 3:42pm
  - pdm
    
    LM – seems like election day next year will be `The Cold Day In Hell’ when I (and I suspect a few others here) cheer on Tamati Coffey.
    
    What a scary thought.
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:49am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I still think MP will sit on the cross benches no matter who is government, why would they go with Labour when Labour are their opponent?
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:54am
- virtualmark
  
  It is way too early in the electoral cycle to be worrying about Te Pati Maori having the balance of power.
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:21am
  - Clownworld
    
    It is the narrative being issued, some people know more about the highly probable election outcome too soon? Inception?
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:36am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    That’s why I love the debate that they might be, especially so far out from the election.
    
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    May 5, 2022 1:33pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Bwhahahahahaha, the three headed hydra is one seat away from oblivion, if these idiots are hanging onto just one seat, then they are going to be very worried when inevitably the recession kicks in next year, and it will , it always does after high inflation
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:13pm
- Thought Criminal
  
  I’m assuming Labour will be far lower in the polls by the election and the Maori Party won’t hold the balance of power.
  
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  May 5, 2022 11:44am
Tomtoddy

Lesson on how to be deceptive:

Survey a few Aucklanders who are on a voluntary database supposedly who are interested in the city’s future. Avoid general populace and those too busy to answer endless silly little surveys.

Then announce that a whopping 65% want more cycleways and willing to pay. Blame National for any opposition. Doesn’t matter that only a few actually participated and the whole survey is biased.

That is how the Ferald, silly old Simon Wilson and Auckland city is run.
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May 5, 2022 8:13am
- Paulus
  
  Did they ask the actual ratepayers in Auckland about the cycleway expenditure, no – or did they select the answers from the rest ?
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:32am
Scott

In yet another episode of Biden watch we find the president of the United States introducing himself as the first senator from Delaware. While that may be true in the past, he is now actually the first president from Delaware. It seems clear that he is confusing his job title and is introducing himself as Senator when he is in fact president of the United States. So just think about that for a while. We have a guy who is turning 80 in November who doesn’t know what job it is that he is doing? That would be okay if he was an ordinary person but he is the president of the United States, the office of the most powerful nation in the world.

What amuses me is how the press covers for him. Even here in New Zealand I have watched Simon Dallow on TV news talking about Joe Biden and how he is on the case in Ukraine. They give that air of confidence that their man is fully in charge.Which is in marked contrast to how they talked about Pres Trump. When they mentioned his name they invariably sneered.

The Emperor has no clothes was a cautionary tale, not an instruction manual for our media. The fact of the matter is that Joe Biden often doesn’t know that he is president of the United States. His speeches are barely lucid. He walks up the stairs to Air Force one and he falls over three times. He confuses his wife with his sister. That’s okay for an old man in a rest home. It’s not okay for the President of the United States.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/and-the-hits-just-keep-on-coming.php
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May 5, 2022 8:13am
- Frank the tank
  
  Simple Simon is on orders to present the old coot in a shining light.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:30am
- mikenmildagain
  
  And yet you insisted, many times, that Trump was perfectly fine.
  Truth is, neither of those dodderers were up to the job, so it comes down to the quality of the handlers.
  The scariest thought is that 2024 might well see a Biden/Trump rematch
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:13am
  - Nickc2
    
    I would welcome that rematch. Trump will romp in.
    As a matter of fact, I’d go as far as to say it wouldn’t be a fair contest.
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:24am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Sorry Mike, but the second para is nonsense. There is a vast difference between the mental state of Biden compared with Trump. And at least Trump was proven to be fine.
    
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    May 5, 2022 5:32pm
    - Batman
      
      Trump is increasingly consumed by the lies he was fed about 2020. There is nothing to suggest he is stable and cognitively sharp, he’s more rambly and slurring than ever.
      
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      May 5, 2022 5:54pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Go tell the Americans that , they are wishing he was back right now, Trump sky high in a head to head with Biden in polls
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:15pm
- stewmar
  
  Scott, Is that Ageism? Whoops 🙂
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:32am
- curry4me
  
  Aside from President Trump; Sleepy Joe is the GOPs biggest asset.
  
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  May 5, 2022 11:14am
  - Batman
    
    Trump *is* the GOP. The GOP doesn’t exist any more outside of a few Senators.
    
    The entire structure is in thrall to MAGA because it gerrymandered its districts and ended up giving the 20% the power.
    
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    May 5, 2022 11:41am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Very entertaining to watch the GOP candidates humiliate themselves to earn the coveted endorsement, and then have the orange one forget their names, etc.
      
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      May 5, 2022 1:12pm
Cassandra

There’s been a change in the way politics works in New Zealand. We’re used to interminable campaigns in America but here parties used to wait until close to the election. Not any more. Is it because the electorate is now polarised? And is it polarised by a government which seems determined to split the country? (Yes, in case you’re wondering). You’d have to ask why they’d do that – surely not on purpose so the answer has to be stupidity or arrogance or, most likely, a combination of the two. Aided and abetted by its Maori component which apparently lives in a bubble.
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May 5, 2022 8:13am
Maggy Wassilieff

Our Deputy Prime Minister has a comprehension problem

Just because Christopher Luxon states that The new Nat candidate for Tauranga is well-qualified and bright DOES NOT mean that everyone else in the National Party is thick.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/05/grant-robertson-lets-rip-at-luxon-says-national-s-mr-gaffe-man-suggested-his-mps-bit-thick.html

It’s a common fault I’ve noticed with folks on the Left… They seems to view the World in absolute dichotomies.

It’s as if Robertson couldn’t conceive that there can be more than 1 bright person in a political party.
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May 5, 2022 8:13am
- peterwn
  
  Robbo is getting desperate. The latest poll results must have been getting at him.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:17am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  That display yesterday was utterly disgusting, just watch Erica Stanford call the loud mouth blow hard out in the next speech, she aimed it right back at him saying clearly the polls have made him angry, snd he knows they are done
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:22am
  - Tricati
    
    I thought Erica Stanford’s response was right on point and made Robertson look petty, which he is.
    
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    May 5, 2022 11:50am
- bjools
  
  Considering, that when he looks behind and to the side, from the front bench.
  He can’t see any bright people, he may be forgiven.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:22am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Perhaps he is jealous
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:10am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  Robertson knows he is the only bright person in labour.
  
  He might be partly right on that.
  
  A bunch of zealous self serving ideological morons.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:23am
- Tony Stuart
  
  I think Robertson, and most of the Labour caucus, are privately jealous that Sam Uffindell did his undergraduate degree, then went offshore to get business experience. Along the way he was a senior executive with Deutsche Bank in Singapore, completing a Masters in International Law along the way.
  
  He’s probably also worried the Uffindell, now a Financial and Economic Crime specialist, is going to have a look at some of the dodgy deals done over the last five years…just sayin’ 😉
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:25am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They will try to smear him, I have seen Slater ask for help to get some info on him so he can do an article, he said he can not find anything
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:12am
- Tricati
  
  I suspect Robertson is a little worried that National has a candidate with significant economic credibility, and he is envious and likely to be shown up – even more.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:28am
- cmm
  
  Thinking is hard and thinking in the grey zone is even harder. People, especially those Labour/MSM/etc panders to, prefer very simple messages that require no thinking. Everything has to be reduced to A vs B, black-and-white thinking with no shades of grey.
  
  That is why we see:
  * Vaccination is the one and only silver bullet. Ignore everything else that can benefit through general immunity/health (VitD, exercise, obesity control,…)
  * In the current Russia/Ukraine war, Putin – had guy, therefore Zelenskyy must be a good guy. We can’t have the truth that they are both bad guys because that’s no longer a clear black/white message.
  * To make things “fair” for women, we must make them unfair for men. It is confusing to treat everyone the same.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:30am
- Frank the tank
  
  Poor man’s Gordon Brown sees his moment in the spotlight diming.
  
  Time for Napoleon to think about knifing Snowball…..
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:31am
- artemisia
  
  Mr Robertson speaking from experience.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:34am
- David Garrett
  
  Maggy: I have to differ with you on this one…If Luxon is accurately quoted in that story he was opening himself up to Robertson’s reaction.
  
  Far better to make it clear that for them merit is the overarching criterion rather than diversity. Diversity rather than merit is a Green Party thing.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:41am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Robertson is an elitist dickhead.
    Someone not being highly educated (and this case we are talking explicitly about university education) does not mean they are “a bit thick”.
    Someone should point out to Robertson that while you could argue Luxon may have insulted his MPs, Robertson insulted every New Zealander that doesn’t have a university education.
    
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    May 5, 2022 8:57am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Nothing Robertson says is accurate, just like the blow hard trying to say Nats are calling the wage subsidies wasted money, they did not, they were talking about the other 25 billion that no one can find
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:14am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @DG
    I get your point..
    
    and Luxon is not accomplished enough to guard against Labour & the media putting a spin /twist on everything he utters.
    
    But that’s what is happening..and it’s the angle the MSM consistently adopts against the Leaders of the Opposition.
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:22am
    - David Garrett
      
      Surely the wider issue is, as you say, that Luxon is simply not accomplished enough. The Nats apparently thought they were anointing “the new John Key” only to find…they haven’t. They should have stuck with Judith.
      
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      May 5, 2022 9:41am
      - Cinematic
        
        The polls don’t support that summation. Luxon is performing well and will only get better.
        
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        May 5, 2022 9:51am
      - Scott
        
        Can’t agree Mr G. I think Luxon generally looks and sounds like a prime minister in waiting and the polls are heading in his direction.
        
        I don’t really know what Judith Collins stood for? Her handling of her own caucus was also not good.
        
        But the main problem with Judith was with her own sex. Basically I have never met a woman that likes her. Maybe there are some out there but I have never met one. And if 50% of the population don’t like you and that 50% tends to vote, then you are stuffed as a political leader.
        
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        May 5, 2022 10:03am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I’m not sure what the solution is..
        Even Judith’s comments were twisted or taken out of context by our MSM.
        
        I think the Nats are foolish to work within the framework that is currently controlled by Labour and its tame Media pups.
        
        However, Jacinda Ardern is on a slide and I seriously doubt that she can pull Joe & Jane Public out of their ca$h doldrums.
        
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        May 5, 2022 10:04am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Politicians need media to reach and turn voters. Nats and Act don’t have a choice, they have to talk to media no matter how biased they are, because that’s a pivotal means for being seen by swing voters.
        
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        May 5, 2022 10:26am
      - I remember when
        
        Perhaps they should have stuck with Simon Bridges who has suddenly become the poster boy of ‘all that is right’ in the media.
        
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        May 5, 2022 11:19am
      - crikey
        
        DG: “ They should have stuck with Judith.” No, they should have stuck with Simon Bridges AND rallied behind him.
        
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        May 5, 2022 11:44am
      - mawm
        
        Urban – the media need politicians as well but what National need to do is set the agenda. Stop answering their loaded questions, do not give them air to breathe. If they want to talk to a National MP it must be a proper one on one meeting with a set agenda – AND National has to have an agreement about viewing any cuts made and control over what gets aired. National needs it to be known they will never again respond to any outlet that breaches this agreement.
        
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        May 5, 2022 2:12pm
      - cmm
        
        Urban: Yup, you’re right.
        
        It’s a bent game but there is no option: it’s the only game in town. You either play the game that’s on the field or you go home.
        
        There is really no point in complaining that the media should be doing this or that. They aren’t. You need to learn how they work: don’t step on the mines they plant and don’t feed them useful soundbites to twist.
        
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        May 5, 2022 4:45pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      They are pretty desperate if that’s all they have to unsettle Luxon, he will learn, snd it will be all forgotten by the time the election comes around. This vulgar tactic will fail, because the voter that are beginning to move to Luxon, people will be sickened by these vulgar tactics, especially if a blow hard like Robertson acts the way he did yesterday, he looked like a nasty hate filled asshole, and he is Deputy PM
      
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      May 5, 2022 12:07pm
  - James Stephenson
    
    DG – Robertson and Ardern are walking advertisements for the fact that there is zero correlation between level of education and intelligence or competence.
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:34am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  There is no doubt about a comprehension problem Maggy. And he’s not the only one in that Party. Firstly, anyone that is not thick engages their brain before their mouth. And remember, this is the guy that printed billions of dollars of money, even after being told by Orr that it would be inflationary, and then told NZ that it wouldn’t be inflationary, and when it was, that the inflation would be “transitory”.
  I think Benedict Yu summed up things perfectly in another post (thanks Benedict, this was perfect, so I repost): “As a government they may be unique in the OECD at adopting terrible policies across all sectors of the economy and society. They literally get everything wrong by any objective measure. Everything they do makes New Zealand poorer and usually less fair”.
  Who then, is thick?
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:49am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He also tried to say Bridges had hacked a government website when he leaked the budget, he went to police the blowhard, yet it was Robertsons ineptitude that led to the cock up leaving the website open to the public, no apology either.
    
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    May 5, 2022 12:11pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The pathetic vindictive way Robertson put it suggests he is thick
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:09am
BeaB

I still think it was a ploy to get Winston back in the limelight to help tank Nationals polls.
It’s the kind of smartarse tactic Arden, Mallard and Robertson would dream up. Just like their sprinkler and Manilow antics.
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May 5, 2022 8:14am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Nothing is going to stop Labour tanking now, snd if people vote Peters after 17 they need to puke in the toilet
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:15am
- rockape
  
  I suspect NZ First make take votes from Labour rather than National. After all he was deputy PM in the 2017 Labour Government so why would any person inclined to the right vote for the old charlatan.
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:23am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    because they are borderline senile – Winston has always relied upon elderly with poor memories to get him in.
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:27am
    - rockape
      
      Come on , I am borderline senile and would do no such thing!
      
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      May 5, 2022 11:42am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Lol, you went senile when it was your shout next that time, Bwhahahahahahaga
        
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        May 5, 2022 12:14pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They said that the day he stood with the protesters, even though he headed to the pub, but polls have him lower, I think Nats may well have taken voters from Labour that would vote for NZF usually
    
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    May 5, 2022 12:13pm
- Cinematic
  
  You’re dreaming. It’s just another hubris fuelled brain fade. It’s a long long list.
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:52am
fernglas

Hasn’t anybody told Wiles, Baker and the MSM that Covid is over and they are now irrelevant?
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May 5, 2022 8:19am
- Matt Long
  
  I think a jounalist hears about new omicron varients, calls some health experts, the responsible ones say it’s nothing to worry about, so the journalist keeps calling till they get Wiles etc. who shriek the sky is falling.
  Journalist is happy, got story. Wiles is happy, feels relevant. Zero Covid Nutjobs are happy, they were right all along. Govt is happy, it backs up their failed policy.
  Only people unhappy are those who try to think for themselves.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:45am
- Simon
  
  The vaxx injuries and deaths are just getting underway. If people have had the jaxx then there are protocols to follow to lessen the damage. Get learning.
  
  Wiles etc are relevant in terms of what must never happen again.
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:18am
- cmm
  
  Wiles will want to stay in the limelight and she’ll add blinking LEDs to her hair if that’s what it takes to attract attention.
  
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  May 5, 2022 10:04am
- Pavel
  
  I notice now that since the adults are done and over their going after the kids. They want them all masked in school because their Vax rates are low. Being that it is widely accepted kids are at low risk and that the Vax doesn’t actually work I often wonder how they can be so behind on the info. Unless they are genuinely not up to date on the science, it feels like their being corrupted by something in order to make such stupid demands.
  
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  May 5, 2022 10:05am
  - Hebe123
    
    I was saying to a vaxxed friend today, how did she feel hearing ads on the radio saying to get vaxxed to protect your “whanau”? She said she feels lied to, and cheated, given we now know that with Omi, the vaccine does not reduce transmission (it appears to actually increase it), nor hospitalisations or deaths. Yet even as vaxxed people wake up, the government keeps the propaganda campaign going – say it enough times and people will believe it aye.
    
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    May 5, 2022 1:02pm
- CBR600
  
  Covid isn’t over. My daughter has just gone positive. It isn’t over by any means.
  
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  May 5, 2022 12:38pm
  - Hebe123
    
    is she going to die OF covid? No, almost nobody is. There are some dying WITH covid.
    Its over.
    
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    May 5, 2022 1:03pm
krazykiwi

Here’s some serious waste: As Vaccine Demand Collapses, U.K. Faces £4 Billion of Waste With 80% of its 650 Million Dose Stockpile Unused
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May 5, 2022 8:20am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  We probably have a similar problem here, are people lining up for their boosters, that we now know a. Don’t work and b, may have serious side effects.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:25am
  - Matt Long
    
    Here’s something to tickle your funny bone, unvaccinated health care workers who have had Covid can work for 3 months after recovering, they then have to do the impossible and catch covid again, get vaccinated or leave work.
    Meanwhile we stuggle to get access to health services.
    Our government is stupider than stupid. Zero Covid Nutjobs.
    
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    May 5, 2022 8:36am
    - Colville
      
      They just phone Healthline and log a “positive” test that they did(nt) do at home because they did(nt) feel sick.
      Job done!
      
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      May 5, 2022 8:47am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I was listening to one of those annoying ads this morning “Protect your tamariki”
  
  Yesterday 28 additional children were vaccinated – in the whole country. How many were Maori? Doesn’t say. Extrapolating previous trends maybe 5 new Maori kids were vaccinated in New Zealand yesterday.
  
  How about they run an urgent campaign to get Maori parents to get their kids their MMR vaccines? You know the ones that work against disease that can kill children. I guess they would stuff that up anyway.
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:19am
  - Scott
    
    To be honest I don’t see the need to vaccinate children. Vaccination doesn’t stop you getting the disease and doesn’t stop you passing it on. And children when they get covid generally shake it off pretty quickly.
    
    What concerns me is the millions of dollars being spent on wall-to-wall government messaging. I really do wish we would hear less from our government. George Orwell gave us Big Brother. Jacinda Adern gives us Big Sister.
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:06am
  - Pavel
    
    And how much did they spend on advertising yesterday to get those 28 kids vaxxed? How much per shot did it really cost. Such a collosial waste of money.
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:10am
    - mawm
      
      The real question is how many kids need to be vaccinated to save one child’s life? I suspect we don’t have enough children in NZ.
      
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      May 5, 2022 2:19pm
  - cmm
    
    “Extrapolating previous trends maybe 5 new Maori kids were vaccinated in New Zealand yesterday.”
    
    I somewhat doubt it. I’ll bet the number is lower.
    
    Since there are about 180 babies born per day in NZ and thus about 180 kids hitting any cut off age (eg. 5 or whatever) every day. This 28 means that 28/180 = 16% of the kids are still being vaccinated. I’ll wager the % is highest amongst hand-wringing white and Asian mums.
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:12am
  - Biscuit
    
    Benedict, innit strange that, what with all those Maori Members in Labour’s caucus, it seems that not one of them thought at the time to jump up and say ‘There needs to be more of an immediate focus on getting Maori people vaccinated?’
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:27am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      And remember at the beginning of the vaccine roll-out Rawiri Waititi was telling Maori that it was up to them whether they got vaxxed or not, contradicting Peeni Henare’s plea for all Maori to be vaxxed.
      
      Māori MPs are reluctant to tell Māori they should get the Covid-19 injection, saying it’s about mana motuhake and whānau have the right to choose.
      
      He soon changed his tune when he saw how much $$$$ could flow into Maori health providers if they made a case for special treatment.
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/covid-19-coronavirus-rawiri-waititi-says-maori-must-make-vaccine-decision-for-themselves/VFSAINI66TTFTAYOOCVRZG2LTY/
      
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      May 5, 2022 11:24am
- Niz
  
  650 million dose stockpile!? How many boosters were they expecting people to get?!
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:52am
  - krazykiwi
    
    One every few months for the next few years
    
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    May 5, 2022 2:02pm
- cmm
  
  That’s how we ended up with those doses from Spain.
  
  Spain had overbought and was sitting on a surplus. Cindy baled them out by buying them. Gotta help a comrade out.
  
  Now there are no more suckers.
  
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  May 5, 2022 10:06am
Maggie Pie

When The Hosk asked Winston this morning if he thought Trev had dirt on the Labor Party, Winnie larfed and replied…. “We all do!”

I can actually vouch for that. One of the girls from Tennis was telling us her sister-in-law used to work for Parliamentary Services. The things she let slip about what went on there, honestly, would make your toes curl….LOL!!
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May 5, 2022 8:22am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “toes curl”
  
  I had to look that up.
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:30am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Collins…. or Urban?
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:44am
Swifty

Will Ardern do nothing about Mallard embarrassing our nation like he did yet again yesterday?

What a debacle.

Not only did Mallard bring shame upon the Speaker’s office yesterday through his overreach, bungling and petty nastiness, he then proceeded to try to lie his way out of it by blaming his underlings.

If Stephen Franks says Mallard told him in a cafe that “I’ve got a trespass notice for you….” then I believe him.

For what, walking around Parliament and observing the demonstrations?

Has Mallard just completely lost the plot? Are his bullying tendencies just now completely out of control?

Are there no depths Mallard will not plumb in his lust to use the Speaker’s office to punish opponents of the NZ Labour Party?

But it’s Ardern I blame for this. She’s the leader. Either she is happy with Mallard’s behaviour or impotent to stop it.

Either way, she’s the one failing the country in allowing this continuing series of scandals and embarrassments from Mallard.

The country would have been far better off of Mallard has been let go when he chose to physically attack another MP on Parliament’s grounds. I think getting away with that disgrace made him think he can now get away with anything.
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May 5, 2022 8:23am
- cmm
  
  In theory the Speaker is a-political and operates outside the direction of the PM.
  In theory.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:36am
  - Swifty
    
    I’m sure you’re right cmm, but in practice if Ardern and her cabinet fronted Mallard and said “you’re out, you’ve lost our support, resign now” what choice would he have?
    
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    May 5, 2022 11:30am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He has to be squeaky clean or Labour have to do the right thing
      
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      May 5, 2022 12:20pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Not quite right, he is still a LabMP , when he goes rogue, then he is Labours problem
    
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    May 5, 2022 12:18pm
- David Garrett
  
  He didn’t attack Tau Henare “on parliaments grounds” mate…he did it in the Noes lobby which adjoins the chamber of the House.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:43am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Ardern needs Mallard to protect her at question time in the house.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:49am
  - Clownworld
    
    And then Mallard also knows where the bodies are buried too.
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:46am
- Paulus
  
  No, leave Mallrd where he is as he is the Labour Party’s best offering to the country before the election.
  Go Trev !
  Remember he is a Labour MP and attends all Labour Caucus meetings
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:37am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  And Mallard is taking MPs to Britain as a learning exercise, he should be told he can’t go
  
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  May 5, 2022 12:17pm
G the giant from Dunedin

Peters said we had dirt on all political parties, but why does he find Mr speaker biased now, when he knew how biased he was last term, why didn’t he speak up, why didn’t his party vote against Mallard when the vote of no confidence was put in several times, stuff Winston Peters, we don’t want that prick back .
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May 5, 2022 8:25am
artemisia

Here is an amazing coincidence.

Professor Janet Hoek ”is the latest winner of the ‘Critic And Conscience’ award, a $50,000 grant from philanthropic trust The Gama Foundation in recognition of fulfilling her role under the Education and Training Act 2020, which requires university academics to act as the critic and conscience of society.”

Of the 8 winners, one current and 7 previous, 4 signed the open letter taking issue with the Listener letter ‘in defence of science’. Still I suppose the 4 meet the ‘critic’ part of the award. Bit of a concern about the ‘conscience’ part though.

wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=144205
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May 5, 2022 8:27am
Matt Long

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/busted-farmer-fined-after-selling-raw-milk-to-undercover-agent-in-nationwide-sting/3PYCCBZJJE25I7BHQZULQTQU5M/
Before the zero covid nutjobs, the ridiculous drinking water standards, etc. we had National’s over the top regulations on fresh milk.
Of course National’s socialist policies will work this time and they are less worse the Labour, and their racial elitism policies are less harmful than the Moari party’s, what’s not to like?
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May 5, 2022 8:28am
- Rodney Hide
  
  We used to buy our milk from Mr and Mrs Martin. It was the most beautiful milk you have ever tasted. It made you feel like a kid again licking the cream off the can.
  
  Our kids grew healthy and strong on Manna milk.
  
  And they get treated worse than meth dealers for selling wholesome milk to more than willing buyers.
  
  They are fined and put out of business. Be kind.
  
  Disgusting.
  
  Rodney Hide
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:48am
  - rockape
    
    Yes Iget mine from a fellow lifestyle blocker.makes the best cheese. We get about 10 to 15 litres a week and for free. If we don’t collect it he puts it on his roses which seems a waste of wonderful jersey milk.
    
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    May 5, 2022 9:30am
    - mawm
      
      That’s all fine until someone gets Brucellosis.
      
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      May 5, 2022 2:32pm
      - Matt Long
        
        You mean a cow gets brucellosis? Brucellosis is eradicated in New Zealand.
        But stay safe, wear your mask.
        
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        May 5, 2022 6:11pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Much the same as not being able to buy fresh fish of the local inshore trawlers due to them requiring to have a Fish Receivers license and a pack house license.
  Not too much difference with Home kill either where HSE is a nightmare.
  Just imagine how much this would bring down prices if we went back to this.
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:19am
  - Matt Long
    
    The way fresh milk is treated is far worse than home kill. There are no requirements for every carcase to be tested for bacteria and warnings on every package of meat.
    I guess those are things to prepare for during the next term of government.
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:19am
  - Taieri
    
    We used to buy our fish fresh-from-the-boat at Taieri Mouth every Sunday. That was before. Now there’re no boats to buy the fish from anymore…
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:26am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Thought you would know Taieri Mouth and Nugget pt. Great flounders and soles fresh.
      Like you say no longer available.
      Bloody shame actually.
      
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      May 5, 2022 11:27am
      - Nickc2
        
        Not so long ago, there were Shell Fish everywhere and with no limit on the take. Now, we have no Shell Fish and there are limits on the take.
        More Asian immigration anyone?
        
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        May 5, 2022 11:58am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Do those boat not catch for the fish shop at Whaihola? I think they are Edmonds fish, the fish goes over the hill for sale, and that shop maybe open on Sunday
      
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      May 5, 2022 12:24pm
krazykiwi

Remember that video of Shanghai pandemic workers (aka ‘Big Whites’) clubbing a pet corgi to death after its owners were taken away to be quarantined? Well that shock factor has been outdone by video of Shanghai mortuary workers discovering a live person in a zipped up body bag.

This is the Zero Covid nightmare that still has supporters like Gates, Schwab et al.
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May 5, 2022 8:38am
- MCōs
  
  You think that’s bad.
  There was a hearse with a body of a person who’d died of covid and as it went up a hill the rear door came open and the coffin slipped out and started sliding back down the hill.
  As it passed a chemist the corpse climbed out, went in and asked if they had anything to stop the coffin.
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:10am
  - Biscuit
    
    G-r-o-a-n, M Cos!
    
    But a chuckling groan…
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:23am
Littletramp

A desperate throw at the stumps by US Democrats, cynically bringing abortion back into the frame for eyeball attention now that Covid and the Ukraine cycles have run their course, and rampant inflation due to unrestrained money printing/low interest rates and ridiculous climate change/fossil fuel agendas, must be hidden.
Don’t forget the initial push for abortion in the US during the 1960’s was simply to restrict the population growth of the black population. Throw the men in prison and stop the women having babies was the solution of the times.
Very much like Black Lives Matter, they have convinced many that their evil is all for a good cause.
Prime examples of why people seeking power pay good money to own the media and thereby control the narrative.
Let’s hope Elon Musk is fair dinkum.
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May 5, 2022 8:47am
Maggy Wassilieff

The behind-the-scenes story of NZ’s covid spin

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/ministry-told-to-underplay-covid-test-capacity

Our Dear Leader has been lucky for 2 years… It will be interesting to see how much cover-up and spin Labour will create to cover the coming cost-of-living cataclysm.
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May 5, 2022 8:52am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Oh I don’t know. I suspect Ruapahu is about to blow its top killing scores of people and dear leader dressed in search and rescue gear hugging the shit out of the remaining family members, ok Mother Nature may come to her rescue again
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:42am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Ruapehu huffs and puffs every now and again.
    My old High school has a hut on its southern slopes
    https://tramper.nz/5999/lupton-hut/
    and I spent many weekends in the late 1960s up there.
    Always rather exciting when the mountain was steaming and sending sulfurous taint down the streams.
    
    But in truth, no different from living in Wellington waiting for the “big one”.
    
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    May 5, 2022 10:49am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yes, but Cindy needs help, hello mountain, hello, over here mountain 😃👍🏻
      
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      May 5, 2022 12:26pm
- Gravelroad
  
  What “cost of living cataclysm” would that be, MW?
  There will be none going by what our esteemed Minister of Finance had to say on the wireless this morning.
  And that klutz Orr talking down to the plebs and telling the politicians to “Breathe” ie “forget about it”.
  Is there no end to their conceit and spin?
  
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  May 5, 2022 1:40pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    What “cost of living cataclysm” would that be, MW?
    
    Watch this space…..
    
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    May 5, 2022 1:42pm
Maggie Pie

Chloe loses her sh*t… again

https://twitter.com/_chloeswarbrick/status/1521591006969622528
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May 5, 2022 8:58am
- Master Mariner
  
  What never ceases to amaze me is the huge disconnect and further divide between Rural NZ and Cities.
  Looking at “The Science” from the link I provided yesterday NZ Sea Level has risen ( Where I looked for Nelson) 10cm since 2005 to 2020.
  
  Its pretty obvious this is not the case .
  
  Meanwhile , That great Bastion of Climate Change hysteria , Germany has this to say.
  https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/4/what-you-need-to-know-on-the-eu-proposed-ban-on-russian-oil
  https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Will-Europes-Desire-For-LNG-Derail-Its-Climate-Goals.html
  
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  May 5, 2022 9:33am
- Niz
  
  Really big sigh.
  Let’s say that the predictions of 60cm sea level rise in 30 years come true (they won’t). Is that really something Chloe needs to be ‘terrified’ of? I think not.
  And what’s wrong with her brain that she actually takes those predictions seriously anyway? Does she believe them because they were made by climate experts? LOL. When was the last time any one of their predictions came true?
  She may be right that the same force is behind wealth tax and climate change though. Evil lefty ideology. _That_ is pretty terrifying.
  
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  May 5, 2022 10:08am
  - Taieri
    
    Is that really something Chloe needs to be ‘terrified’ of? I think not.
    And what’s wrong with her brain that she actually takes those predictions seriously anyway?
    ————-
    
    For now she seems to be terrified of thinking…
    
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    May 5, 2022 11:36am
- Taieri
  
  Some interesting comments below this twit. By some real twits…
  
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  May 5, 2022 11:35am
Lance

On the AM show this morning the head of the comity that came up with the blindingly idiotic $2B cycle way plan appeared.
He maintained their research showed that 52% of ALL Aucklanders would cycle if they implemented this plan…………………………………….. Bra ha ha ha !
It would be bad enough if this was just some drunken halfwit at the pub, but this fool has power and influence.
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May 5, 2022 9:16am
- Master Mariner
  
  With out really knowing but the critical thinker in me would suggest there is some serious structural issues with the bridge.
  Remember when a truck damaged it and needed repairs?
  The big concern in my limited knowledge is closing it down due to high winds.
  So just maybe , The real reason it did not get a cycle lane “tacked” onto it was due to its structural integrity.?
  Like anything with there thinking process there appears to be an alternative reason.
  
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  May 5, 2022 11:34am
  - Batman
    
    The wind thing is to stop SUVs, vans and trucks etc being blown over in 90kmh plus winds as the bridge is so exposed.
    
    It isn’t the structure but the users of the bridge 🙂
    
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    May 5, 2022 11:44am
  - Lance
    
    No
    This is a new idiotic plan not the bridge cycleway silliness.
    Something along the lines of adding many cycleways to Auckland’s infrastructure and removing all teacher parking at schools.
    You can’t make this shit up.
    
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    May 5, 2022 11:48am
    - GJM
      
      Given all the teachers I know are Labour or greens supporters, I am all in favor of removing teacher’s parking. Let them actually get what they voted for, good and hard.
      
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      May 7, 2022 7:48am
I remember when

Is it just me or have the media started being a little less helpful in the selection of their Jacinda photos.
Lot less of the glamourous, smiling, friendly variety and a lot more conderned, stressed, things not going well.
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May 5, 2022 9:28am
- Biscuit
  
  Not sure if ‘conderned’ is a typo or not – D is right above C on a keyboard – but the word suits Miss Frowny Face SUPERBLY!
  
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  May 5, 2022 10:21am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  She needs a damn good feed of greasy boil-up and doughboys.
  
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  May 5, 2022 11:27am
Frank the tank

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/johnny-depp-amber-heard-defamation-trial-court-case

This shit gets weirder and weirder.

Heard reminds of nights 20 years ago in bars when you see a hot girl but you know she is bat-shit crazy. Big Frank says stay away but little Frank thinks otherwise.
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May 5, 2022 9:29am
I remember when

Simon Bridges’ new show on stuff:
Along with the mention of a writing role, does this show people are starting to realise that the media are missing the experienced male view.
Maybe, a single point of view is not what we want.
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May 5, 2022 9:35am
I remember when

Covid-19: Decision on second booster to be announced in coming weeks: Stuff:
So a decision on who is going to be prioritised.
Presumably people who are likely to get covid during the ten to fifteen weeks after they get their booster.
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May 5, 2022 9:40am
- oldfella
  
  Priority will be given to the ‘special people’. The rest of us… meh.
  
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  May 5, 2022 10:24am
- krazykiwi
  
  I strongly recommend people do LOTS of non-MSM research before getting any further jabs. The faint warning signals of 12 months ago are now thrash-metal amplified railway crossing bells for anyone with ears to hear.
  
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  May 5, 2022 7:11pm
I remember when

Do the Labour Party ever wonder about the irony.
Racing to help the Free Market by ensuring competition in the Supermarket sector.
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May 5, 2022 9:42am
Maggie Pie

A bestie of mine has a Highlanders Jersey signed by Aaron Smith.

Crikey….

https://twitter.com/AsifBurhan/status/1521867856606113792
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May 5, 2022 10:18am
- Biscuit
  
  Signed in a disabled toilet at an airport near her, Maggie?
  
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  May 5, 2022 10:19am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Bwhahahahaha Smithy was here
    
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    May 5, 2022 12:28pm
Biscuit

I thought I’d never live to see the day…

A
Cartoon
On
‘Stuff’
That
Actually
Kicks
This
Incompetent
Government

(Well, at the very least, the dictatorial Speaker that this incompetent Government keeps saying it has full confidence in…)

Question for an independent journalist (inn-dee-pen-dent, it IS a big word, isn’t it?, paid hacks?) to demand an answer to from Jacinda:

Is it true, Prime Minister, that even after Mr Mallard’s despicable actions of late, you not only still have full confidence in him but that you propose appointing him as New Zealand’s Ambassador/High Commissioner to (I hear) Ireland?

We really need the U.S. system whereby, once a new Adminstration takes office, all policitial appointees from the outgoing Administration tender their resignations.

There will be those – Annette King in Canberra, e.g. – where an incoming National-led Administration might say ‘Please stay’ but there will be others – Mallard, if he is shipped off to Dublin (whatever has Ireland done to us to deserve…?) and Goff, ditto re Washington – who should be summarily stripped of their cronyistic posts.
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May 5, 2022 10:18am
Maggy Wassilieff

Perhaps some Lawyer could help here

Who is responsible for making sure the children of a sole parent are taken care of when the parent is sentenced to prison?

Is it the police, The Justice Dept, Corrections, or Oranga Tamariki?

How could Michaela Barriball walk out of court with someone else’s kid ?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128536786/pics-of-abuse-suffered-by-malachi-subecz-didnt-reach-police-until-after-his-murder
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May 5, 2022 10:21am
oldfella

Mike Hosking gets stuck in to the most transparent govt, evah! (Behind a paywall, but here’s his conclusion…)
If Labour had said at the start, look we aren’t really into openness and accountability is more trouble than it’s worth, and besides there’s a whole bunch of really ideological stuff around race that we’re desperate to get sorted before we’re booted out, then at least we could’ve expected what we’ve ended up with.
But to have made such a song and dance about how angelic their intentions were, and how you could pop around for a cup of tea and a natter anytime you liked, because, after all we are all in this together, just shows you how much they played us for a bunch of suckers.
The great test for the Prime Minister’s acting skills as we lead into the election is the challenge she will face when asked if she still thinks they are the most honest open and transparent the country has ever seen, and whether she 1) says yes, and 2) says it with a straight face.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/mike-hosking-open-and-honest-government-what-a-joke/VPBBJ5WG6MBTA42H3VC2HXMPXI/
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May 5, 2022 10:21am
oldfella

Stuffed does an opinion piece on the latest Air NZ safety video. And opens it up for comments, which are not flattering. Too much pigeon English, and not enough ‘safety’ seem to be the predominant messages coming through.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/300580270/air-new-zealands-new-safety-video-a-different-kind-of-controversial
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May 5, 2022 10:28am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Looks to be a real toe-curler.
  
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  May 5, 2022 11:29am
- graham
  
  One comment states the blindingly obvious:
  
  The Air NZ ‘safety’ videos actually compromise safety. The information passengers need to know is obscured by the other irrelevant stories. At best it is confusing and for non-English speakers I would imagine it is almost incomprehensible. I can understand NZ English and still found it distracting.
  
  Safety is important on a plane, and I would prefer all we passengers had a clear understanding of what to do in an emergency rather than be left wondering what standing on a mountain has to do with where the life jackets are and what that bloke with the snorkel is trying to say.
  
  Stick to the basics in the compulsory safety video and then do a separate ‘wonders of NZ’ for those who are interested.
  
  Couldn’t agree more. If you want to present Maori myths and legends to passengers, using language that many of them won’t understand, by all means do so. But not in a safety video. The prime purpose of a safety video must be to present the necessary information clearly. This video fails in its prime purpose.
  
  It’s actually a dereliction of duty by Air NZ.
  
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  May 5, 2022 12:00pm
- [email protected]
  
  I was an Air New Zealand gold card member. Did a lot of overseas flights and used my airpoints regularly to upgrade. Then they devalued my airports not once, but twice to worthless air point dollars.
  
  That was the last time I ever flew Air New Zealand for international flights.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:13pm
oldfella

Multiple stabbings in Cambridge. Shots fired in Auckland. Just another Thursday in Cindy’s ayoteearower.
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May 5, 2022 10:35am
oldfella

A well-crafted response from Karl du Fresne to an anonymous critic of his views on co-governance, and other ‘matters Maori’.
http://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2022/05/my-reply-to-shelley-whoever-she-is.html
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May 5, 2022 10:57am
- mandk
  
  Excellent piece by Karl.
  
  He deals well with Shelley who, like a lot of ctrl-left people, glibly attack anyone who happens to express disagreement with them as racist.
  
  The same applies to ctrl-left people who often attack people who disagree with them as being homophobic, TERF, transphobic, or sexist, or whatever. It’s the standard tactic deployed by people who can’t respond rationally to arguments put to them. They are neo-fascists.
  
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  May 5, 2022 12:33pm
curry4me

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Bv91ht-0ym0/

MAGA candidates Sweep Primaries in Trumpian Blowout.

We’re going to look at the astonishing wins last night, we’re going to see what President Trump had to say about it, and stick with me to the very end of this video when I’ll reveal how and why the Republican Party is changing like never before. [11:11]
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May 5, 2022 11:00am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYyEYVkU8Uo

Europe was forced into a war it never wanted to be a part of, results are here.

There were protests against Macron. Germany could suffer energy shortages. There have been demonstrations in Italy, and Turkey. BoJo is facing a backlash over party gate. There is a political crisis in Georgia. There have been protests over soaring fuel costs in Spain. [5:04]
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May 5, 2022 11:00am
- Lance
  
  Looks like situation normal to me.
  
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  May 5, 2022 12:44pm
Maggie Pie

‘Biscuits’ wedding day….. 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1521985522209460224
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May 5, 2022 11:04am
- Biscuit
  
  Wash your mouth, Maggie, heh…
  
  ‘The Sun’ is a newspaper rated even lower by Moi than the two ‘flagship’ New Zealand ragsheets.
  [The Sun’, you may recall, KNOWINGLY published mistruths – more like ‘f*cking LIES’ over Liverpool fans’ involvement in the Hillsborough disaster]
  
  And there’ll be no wedding day, ha.
  The semi-tame lass who moved in with me all of 47 years 126 days 3 hours 15 minutes and 6.9 seconds ago did so on the express understanding that she wanted no wedding. Ever.
  
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  May 5, 2022 1:49pm
I remember when

Researchers at Charles Darwin University have discovered saltwater crocodiles are helping to curb Australia’s massive feral pig problem by eating wild pigs and buffalo.
When crocodile hunting was banned in 1971, only 3,000 individuals remained.
Now more than 100,000 roam across the Northern Territory.

Two conservation lessons in one study.
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May 5, 2022 11:11am
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/dad-on-ram-raid-son-hes-going-to-kill-someone-or-kill-himself/CTZEHNSVHPMNZGKONTHURI42YM/

Dad blames social media for his kid and friends doing ram raids.

While I give credit to him for speaking about it, I blame the mum & dad .

My kids are on social media and don’t do ram raids. None of my friends kids do either.

This dad is trying to avoid his part in this.
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May 5, 2022 11:13am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I think Dad played his part from jail.
  
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  May 5, 2022 11:46am
Master Mariner

Diesel is really the life blood of NZ’s economy.

We not only rely on supply but just as import is the quality.

Moving this to offshore will severely compromise both regardless of the extra cost by the closure of Marsden Pt.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/cost-of-making-biodiesel-soars-beyond-affordability-z-energy
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Diesel-Prices-Hit-New-Record-On-Wednesday.html

Dont believe we have 90 days fuel reserve in NZ as spouted, As most in Europe as strategic reserves.

My mind really does boggle at the shear inaptitude of this outfit masquerading as the Government.
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May 5, 2022 11:17am
- MCōs
  
  The refinery was flogged off by the Lange government almost forty years ago and is now owned by some petrol companies, for better or worse.
  They have now decided it was more profitable to import refined fuel and if the government weren’t happy they could make up the difference, which cabinet decided against. https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/127057188/no-last-minute-reprieve-for-marsden-point-oil-refinery#comments
  
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  May 5, 2022 1:05pm
oldfella

This is why Garrick Tremain got dumped by the ODT, and would never get another MSM gig today. Too controversial. And too good at his job.
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/cartoon-of-the-day-104
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May 5, 2022 11:20am
- Inandout
  
  old, as the MSM is dying on the vine then Garrick will have plenty of work in the real world.
  
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  May 5, 2022 12:10pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

So, ‘My-Food-Bag’ founder Nadia Lim, is offended by being referred to as a piece of…. ‘Eurasian Fluff’

https://twitter.com/ChrisKeall/status/1521999700941246464

Well I say….HTFU girl, think yourself lucky you weren’t born Blonde!
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May 5, 2022 11:58am
- Lance
  
  Whatever ones opinion of the appropriateness of the comment, it was bloody silly to speak as the owner of a business in a controversial manner.
  Business 101, though shall not expose the company to controversy. Along with never never never ridicule a client in an internal email (even if it is true) as these things have a habit of getting loose into the wrong eyes.
  
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  May 5, 2022 4:04pm
  - MCōs
    
    In this particular instance the guy was way out of line however you look at it.
    
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    May 5, 2022 5:24pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      In fact he was a total dickhead.
      
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      May 5, 2022 9:23pm
westernScientist

An interesting poll at the bottom of this:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/128548000/adrian-orr-to-mps-on-inflation-step-back-and-just-breathe

What is your biggest economic worry?
Unemployment 9%
Inflation 54%
high house prices 14%
rising mortgage rates 23%
as at 12:14
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May 5, 2022 12:15pm
- MCōs
  
  Five years ago when we were renovating my daughter’s house we found an old newspaper clipping behind the gib board.
  It was a BNZ ad for mortgages.
  About 1984, something like that.
  At call 14%, two years 17%, five years 16.5%
  
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  May 5, 2022 1:19pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I was paying that – then on top, a second mortgage at 22% to pay off my ex wife. It was that or lose my house.
    
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    May 5, 2022 2:46pm
Maggie Pie

Does anyone actually listen to ‘Tova O’Brien’ in the mornings?

LOL!!!
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May 5, 2022 1:07pm
- mandk
  
  Not even Jessica.
  
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  May 5, 2022 1:11pm
- MCōs
  
  Not myself.
  This morning I watched Manchester City get their beans.
  Other I might discuss the news out of Thailand with my wife that she’s watching online.
  Today, for example, a guy was in handcuffs after killing his friend, his friend’s wife & kid. Astonishingly as he was led away he was interviewed on TV. He told the reporter how sorry he was.
  No name suppression over there.
  I’ve seen some dreadful photos on the front of Thai language papers and clips on tv.
  
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  May 5, 2022 1:35pm
- Biscuit
  
  Someone seems to be enjoying her ;compettion’, Maggie:
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/mike-hosking-surges-to-all-time-ratings-record-as-nzme-stations-reach-more-than-2-million-across-network/TDZD67BLCJYE3VBCS5P3LJTT6M/
  
  Poor Tova, eh? If it ain’t ‘Jessica then Tova’ from the Podium of Truth anymore it’s ‘Mike …. big distance … Tova’ in her new gig!
  
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  May 5, 2022 2:12pm
  - graham
    
    What a shock! “The Mike Hosking Breakfast now commands an audience of 511,700 listeners, the highest for any breakfast show in the country, ever.”
    
    How can this be? We’re always being told that he is too right-wing and doesn’t really represent what the average New Zealander believes.
    
    Or maybe, contrary to what the woke lefties want us to believe, Mr Hosking actually nails what the average New Zealander believes pretty well.
    
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    May 5, 2022 2:31pm
- septic skeptic
  
  I bet the red witch makes Neve turn off play school and listen.
  
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  May 5, 2022 4:16pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh Dear,
looks like a bunch of liars and bullies is being churned out by our Broadcast training institutes.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/300580895/toxic-culture-of-sex-drinking-and-bullying-uncovered-at-new-zealands-top-broadcasting-school

Might be time to scrap the whole she-bang.
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May 5, 2022 1:19pm
- Biscuit
  
  Maggy, your link (which I didn’t bother clicking on) says ‘….new-zealands-top-broadcasting-school’…
  
  That implies that there is more than one ‘top broadcasting school’…
  
  Those ‘journalists’ need clued-in to the meaning of the word ‘top’…
  
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  May 5, 2022 1:54pm
  - graham
    
    Wouldn’t hurt them to undertake a course in proof-reading either. According to the caption under the photo at the top of the page, the NZBS is “… part of Ara Institute in Christchruch …”
    
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    May 5, 2022 2:26pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    How does a singular imply a plural?
    
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    May 5, 2022 2:52pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Yes, egregious errors everywhere. Some perfectly illustrate what’s so wrong with the level of grammar and attention to detail so prevalent today.
    
    What are your top 5?
    
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    May 5, 2022 11:04pm
Niz

Hands up anyone who is surprised that Kiwi Wealth (the KiwiSaver manager that blacklisted the company whose CEO said mean things about My Food Bag) is a member of Climate Action 100+?
Anyone?
It’s good to know this. I can add Kiwi Wealth to my blacklist of places I don’t let near my money.
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May 5, 2022 1:31pm
- Hard Cheese
  
  Kiwi Wealth are already on my blacklist, I tried two of their investment funds – the returns were horrible and their systems were like something out of Soviet Russia. Fund balances are two weeks old, quite how it’s possible to not have real time data in 2022 I’m not sure.
  
  Anyway, his comment was pretty off but the broader context of his comments about My Food Bag were 100% correct. IMO anyone who bought into that IPO had rocks in their head.
  
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  May 5, 2022 5:21pm
leoj

Hosking expands his already largest audience.

No wonder Nash bailed.

MSM are attacking Luxon. Hosking will be next. Too much of a threat.

To those who think the media is not biased. You are idiots.
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May 5, 2022 1:34pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Just when you thought you have heard it all:
https://uniteamericafirst.com/transgender-who-filed-a-lawsuit-against-beauticians-for-not-giving-a-brazilian-wax-job-on-her-scrotum-loses-in-court-video/?
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May 5, 2022 2:06pm
- mawm
  
  The pain is unimaginable. Thank goodness its only women who need to have that part waxed.
  
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  May 5, 2022 3:11pm
cmm

I’m really getting sick of the lies…

Today’s CV19 update: 8609 new cases and, apparently, 20more deaths inc a sub-10 year old.

Except of course that those deaths are not new and nor is the sub-10 year old. They were reported in a headline in stuff earlier in the week – I think 2 days ago.

To say there were 20 more deaths is a lie.

Now here’s a quote that scrabled my brain. Can anyone understand it?: “Of the 20 deaths reported on Thursday 9ie. today), 18 died over the past five days. Two had died since April 24.”

So 18 have died in the last 5 days. But only 2 have died since April 24 (ie. in the last 11 days).
How is it possible that more have died in the last 5 days than have died in the last 11 days?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300580902/covid19-8609-new-community-cases-20-deaths-reported-including-child-under-10
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May 5, 2022 2:31pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  Two died between April 24 and April 30. 18 died between 1 and 5 May.
  
  Impossible to say if any of them died from Covid, but very unlikely. Hope that clears it up.
  
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  May 5, 2022 2:49pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The left are shit at Math. Maybe they should use common core math?
  
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  May 5, 2022 2:50pm
  - oldfella
    
    Steve, I think the left use Maori maths. Lots of wiggle room. //
    
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    May 5, 2022 4:55pm
krazykiwi

Vaccine mandate on 1.3 billion people declared illegal by India’s Supreme Court.

The article also enumerates similar rulings from around the world, including the 25th Feb ruling by the NZ High Court.

Given the certainty that otherwise healthy people have been killed as a result of vaccination that that were forced into taking, there are leaders the world over with blood on their hands. I want Nuremberg 2.0 for these people
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May 5, 2022 2:34pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Yes, someone will have to carry the can. Nuremberg 2.0 will come I think – but not in my lifetime
  
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  May 5, 2022 2:52pm
- mawm
  
  If there is risk there has to be consent. If consent is not give there can be no coercion or punishment.
  
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  May 5, 2022 3:15pm
- cmm
  
  Naah, facts don’t matter. They can all be airbrushed out of history like (inaudible).
  
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  May 5, 2022 4:27pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie from work retweets…

‘Pfizer doc drop for those interested…..

https://phmpt.org/pfizers-documents/
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May 5, 2022 3:12pm
- mawm
  
  It’s not looking good for those who claimed it is safe during pregnancy and for those breastfeeding.
  
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  May 5, 2022 3:18pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Yes, it’s huge. And Pfizer appears to be deliberately obfuscating the data by, for example, providing parts of some data tables, rather than whole data tables as directed by the court ruling.
  
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  May 5, 2022 3:34pm
  - cmm
    
    Clever trick.
    If the courts tell you to release documents in 5 drops then drop some cells of a table in the first drop and others in another drop and see if a bunch of data miners can fix the mess.
    
    These people really deserve to be called the word DPF doesn’t like.
    
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    May 5, 2022 4:26pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    At least it provides a clear ‘look here’ message, and perhaps a clearer indication of mens rea.
    
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    May 5, 2022 4:37pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

No Whoopie for you ……
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwQoWx6DnGs
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May 5, 2022 3:57pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING….

‘Oregon schools are mandating Tampons in boys’ Toilets’

Where will these ‘boys’ be inserting them I wonder?

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1520823515057852416
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May 5, 2022 4:30pm
- cmm
  
  Good for nose bleeds?
  
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  May 5, 2022 4:39pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  If today’s story about kids’ teeth in aotearoa is correct, they might try and clean their teeth with them.
  
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  May 5, 2022 8:44pm
MCōs

This reminds me of the opening scenes of the ‘Godfather’
https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1521957015609823233?s=21&t=EQYXLEQQYZXrZeiJf9gZzg
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May 5, 2022 5:13pm
Maggie Pie

News Flash….

Trump endorsed candidate J.D. Vance wins Ohio Primary

– FOX
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May 5, 2022 5:14pm
Maggie Pie

And no surprise to hear that Goofs woke Samoan mate Faa’nana Efeso, joined him in voting FOR the $2b spend on a frigging cycleway!

Like my partner’s mum said when she just told me about it…..”this hole country’s f- – ked”.
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May 5, 2022 5:36pm
surfing

I take note that those online media who receive cash from the government, are mostly or entirely censoring negative comment on three waters articles.

I’m guessing they are getting a raging torrent of negative comment about iwi being given cash.

Censoring won’t make people disappear though.
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May 5, 2022 6:00pm
zulumonster

Not clicking on that – it has “video” at the end of the url.
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