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mikenmildagain

Happy International No Diet Day!
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May 6, 2022 8:03am
- cmm
  
  … and missed Cinco de Mayo?
  I thought you’d be all into that being anti-imperialist and all that.
  
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  May 6, 2022 1:21pm
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/unexpected-event-grades-nzqa-confident-marks-were-fair-despite-auckland-students-better-grades/YPCDC2H6IMDUPPV2EKB467BVDE/

Last years NCEA marks are a huge scandal … Auckland students were massively advantaged by covid lockdowns… I preditcted this would be the case, and it is turned out so.

Administrators are trying to justify why auckland results have jumped so much, but, it is solely because they allowed auckland students to skip year end exams and use their internal results… so not only did auckland students not get tested, they were awarded higher marks because of that.
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May 6, 2022 8:04am
- ClanMcleod
  
  More unseen, negative consequences of Ardern’s covid circus response. There will be plenty more that were warned about and others that couldn’t be predicted. What a disaster.
  
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  May 6, 2022 10:24am
  - mawm
    
    It’s international. Now we’ll see the measure of a nation by how they hold those responsible to account.
    
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    May 6, 2022 10:49am
Simon

Never Trumpers injecting themselves with Trump’s “Warp Speed” corona jaxx was the funniest political shit.
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May 6, 2022 8:05am
Simon

Any updates from the government on the Beijing Honiara military pact?

Can NZ’s newly appointed pacific gender diversity officer turn the tide?
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May 6, 2022 8:06am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Ah Yes,
  
  It’s because of a lack of transparency, according to the Hon Nanaia Mahuta
  
  Nanaia Mahuta confirms ‘unwelcome and unnecessary’ deal came as a surprise to New Zealand and Australia, saying the Solomons must provide transparency
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/05/new-zealand-foreign-minister-blames-relationship-failure-for-china-solomons-security-deal
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:22am
  - Ehlana
    
    To which, if I were the government of the Solomons I would reply that they are not required to disclose their affairs to the New Zealand and Australian governments. I might even be tempted to suggest that Nanaia Mahuta is in no position to speak of transparency considering the outrage in her own country over the secret negotiations behind the 3 Waters initiative.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:47am
    - Blog-aholic
      
      This government doesn’t even tell New Zealanders waht it is up to so……
      
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      May 6, 2022 10:00am
    - Biscuit
      
      Indeed, Ehlana…
      
      And I was surprised that, so far as I can see, no-one in our Government has seen fit to give Scott Morrison a lecture for his favourably comparing Australia’s inflation rate to our one.
      
      Cindy, of course, feels free to criticise foreign administrations but, heaven forbid, any criticism by outsiders of HER regime is forbidden!
      
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      May 6, 2022 2:44pm
  - cmm
    
    We should start treating Solomons like they are grown ups:
    * You choose who you jump in the sack with.
    * We will stop helicopter parenting you.
    * No more pocket money.
    
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    May 6, 2022 1:25pm
- curry4me
  
  Check out Sky [Oz], or China Uncensored on You Tube.
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:42pm
Ra Henare

Hanging on to the power by the skin of their teeth.

Shades of MBIE screwups for last 2 years.
The Travel Declaration/Pass required for entry to NZ is another almighty fkup.
So much detail required!!!!

All to be done less than 48 hours before departure(PCR test required). In most cases less than 24 hours before departure.(RAT test)
And easily dismissed for seemingly trivial problems.

Congratulations NZ Government, it would seem that your boffins have again tried for a stupidity of the year award.!!! Overkill Overkill Overkill
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May 6, 2022 8:06am
- Ra Henare
  
  I forgot to add.
  Sure government sets the rules.
  Ie Vaxed / tested whatever.
  But for fks sake let the airlines/shipping mobs do the operational checks.
  They pay a penalty to get it wrong. ie they have to ship people out at their(airlines) cost.
  
  Government screws up. No penalty.
  
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  May 6, 2022 10:13am
- Colville
  
  I have been warned that its basically impossible to fill out on a phone in the airport. So RAT test the day before and sit down with a proper screen and a pad and paper. Allow 30 mins.
  
  All for what?
  
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  May 6, 2022 10:28am
Maggy Wassilieff

Don Brash’s speech on Free Speech…(delivered at Massey University)

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/free-speech-how-free-should-it-really-be
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May 6, 2022 8:06am
- Stellaboxer
  
  It was great until he completely contradicted himself in the last two paragraphs.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:08am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    In short, we all support limits to free speech, but disagree strongly about what those limits are.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:20am
    - leoj
      
      Incorrect. Most here mainly disagree with you.
      
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      May 6, 2022 9:38am
- Scott
  
  An amazing speech by Don Brash at Massey University. Many of the liberal professors of sociology and the students fed on a steady diet of left-wing dogma would have had vapours listening to such forthright views and such commonsense ideas.
  
  My only issue is that Don Brash has a brilliant habit of alienating everybody. So I was enjoying what he was saying and then he decided to get on to Brian Tamaki and rubbishing the book of Leviticus. And then he decided to get on to Pres Trump and whether he actually won the 2020 election. And that was the limit for free speech as far as Don was concerned. You can talk about anything but the idea that Trump had a point regarding the outcome of the 2020 election is a step too far. That’s where he hopes Elon Musk steps in and says enough is enough.
  
  The Democrats disputed the 2016 election for four years. And there was no basis for it. There was never Trump/Russia collusion. But the media was full of it for four years. They talked about nothing else. Even though it was a complete lie.
  
  What they will not talk about is the result of the 2020 election. On which there is plenty of room for doubt. Balloting by mail, electronic voting systems that have Internet connections, ballot harvesting, mysterious boxes of ballots that appear in the dead of night, six swing states that for no particular reason stop counting on election night. The list of unsafe and objectionable voting practices in the 2020 election is long.
  
  So Don – do some research. We definitely should debate the result of the 2020 election. That is definitely a topic for free speech as well.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:32am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Great examples, Scott. Free speech is okay, but you don’t like Brash’s opinions when they conflict with yours, and somehow that invalidates his arguments?
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:22am
    - mawm
      
      Free speech allows one to express an opinion – even if it is about someone else’s opinion. Hypocrisy is using your ability to criticise someone else for their criticism of another.
      
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      May 6, 2022 10:54am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        [mic drop]
        
        BOOM!!!
        
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        May 6, 2022 4:05pm
  - Scott
    
    Well done Mikey. You have an excellent ability to totally miss the point which I think to be honest is deliberate on your part.
    
    Don is perfectly entitled to express his opinion on the 2020 election. But what he seems to be urging is for Elon Musk to put limits on free speech on his newly acquired Twitter platform as regards the results of the 2020 election.
    
    One can only hope that Elon Musk will ignore the advice of Don Brash and allow all views to be expressed on the 2020 election. Because the truth is out there. And I don’t think the truth has been aired yet on what really happened in 2020. One can only hope it will and one can only hope that Elon Musk will allow the truth to emerge through allowing free speech on Twitter.
    
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    May 6, 2022 10:40am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      There are only two positions on free speech
      You either believe in it or you don’t .
      
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      May 6, 2022 11:27am
  - artemisia
    
    2000 Mules is about to be released. Millions will watch it. Polls will be interesting ….
    
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    May 6, 2022 11:18am
- Ra Henare
  
  I see the media and the PM attacking freedom speech again today.!!
  Along with a bunch of wets in this forum.
  
  I refer to Simons Henrys comments re the Food Bag Launch documents.
  
  Apparently cancel culture is alive and well for him expressing an opinion.
  
  I hope all those on Kiwiblog who promote themselves as supporting freedom of speech.
  
  Point out Simons rights to have an opinion!!!
  You dont have to agree with him. Its just his opinion.
  
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  May 6, 2022 3:45pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    I’m thinking of switching my KiwiSaver to one that holds DGL stock. I like the cut of his jib, unlike the hypocritical Eurasian bit of fluff who’s been perfectly happy to cash in on her looks but is now crying “offended!” when it’s pointed out.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nid2HId9EVY
    
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    May 6, 2022 4:11pm
  - blue collar
    
    Too right Brother Ra …. Nothing to see here , apart from a large dollop of misandry ….
    
    We always hear about misogyny …. Seems to me there’s a fuck ton of misandry out there
    
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    May 6, 2022 5:05pm
  - Observer of Life
    
    His comments were ridiculous. But why don’t the likes of Lim and all those woketards just laugh it off. Duck/Water/Back… or even sticks and stones. I heard one cloth eared bint go on about “micro aggressions. God help us all from these idiots.
    
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    May 6, 2022 6:38pm
Tony Stuart

Kate Hawkesby hits the nail on the head:

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/early-edition/opinion/kate-hawkesby-poto-williams-is-acting-immaturely-and-naively/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=twitter

For the record, I have been a critic of Poto Williams’ performance as Police Minister, but it has absolutely NOTHING to do her gender. My criticism however has EVERYTHING to do with her head-in-the-sand attitude towards violent gang crime, her unwillingness to accept responsibility for anything that happens on her watch, her softness on crime (a trait shared with Commissioner Coster) and the fact that she is completely out of her depth.
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May 6, 2022 8:07am
- Stellaboxer
  
  Her stated position of looking out for her people sort of exposed her calibre in my book.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:13am
  - Nukuleka
    
    Yes indeed, Stellaboxer, she is the elected representative of my electorate Christchurch East yet she has claimed she actually represents Pacific Islanders and the people of South Aukland! Muppet.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:14am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Looks like the knives are out for Poto Williams.
  
  Not often you see a MSM article admitting the ineffectiveness of a Labour Minister.
  
  The Prime Minister is backing Williams.
  
  “Absolutely,” Ardern said on Thursday, when asked if she still has confidence in Williams.
  
  The problem is, that the public doesn’t.
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/05/newshub-reid-research-poll-finds-most-kiwis-think-police-minister-poto-williams-is-too-soft-on-crime.html
  
  Might be time for Poto Williams to be polishing up her cv.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:17am
  - CJames
    
    I think she is safe.
    Firstly, who can Labour replace her with?
    Secondly, if she is changed for incompetence, that sets a precedent for all the other Ministerial appointments that the public would notice.
    And thirdly, when the polls re going against you, the last thing the PM needs is for her parliamentary party colleagues to think she is panicking. Then they start all looking to their own positions – being rats on a sinking ship, they will want to grab as many baubles as they can. Go back to Mike Moore in 1990 the last time it happened.
    
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    May 6, 2022 8:26am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Replace her with David Clark. He has experience in many Ministries, best man for the job
      
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      May 6, 2022 8:38am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Team up with Phil Twyford as dual Police Ministers. Seems like it is a demanding job, so needs two leaders
        
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        May 6, 2022 8:41am
      - RoboRob
        
        Take a leaf (perhaps a drug leaf) from the Greens, replace her with two MPs, which must include one or more non male and non white MPs.
        
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        May 6, 2022 8:50am
    - peterwn
      
      Greg O’Connor – he has a thorough knowledge of the Police and policing.
      
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      May 6, 2022 8:41am
      - Hugh Jarse
        
        Don’t be silly Peter, he is a middle aged white male, in other words a non-person. Knowledge and experience means nothing, diversity is all that counts.
        
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        May 6, 2022 9:32am
      - stewmar
        
        Peterwn, I think there’s something quite odd in that Greg O’Connor hasn’t been appointed to Minister of Police. He knows more about Police than anyone else in Parliament. I reckon he must have stepped on some ones toes somewhere along the way.
        
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        May 6, 2022 10:00am
      - RightFirstTime
        
        O’Connor is a dead man walking. Tracey Martin will be the Labour candidate in Ohariu for the next election.
        
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        May 6, 2022 10:15am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        She may indeed RFT, but the next MP for Ohariu will be Nicola Willis.
        
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        May 6, 2022 2:27pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        True, but how could he “represent his people” when the courts are strangely devoid of pale stale males – comparatively speaking, that is.
        
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        May 6, 2022 4:13pm
    - pdm
      
      `I think she is safe.’
      
      I agree CJ. She has too huge advantages:
      
      1. Female although it would further help if she was LGBT with one leg.
      2. Part Maori.
      
      Ardern dare not kick her out for fear of alienating the two biggest factions within the Labour Caucus – plus what would Marama Davidson and the Greens say?
      
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      May 6, 2022 9:01am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        She is of Cook Island (Maori) descent.
        
        She does not seem to be part of the inner Maori caucus (The Willie Jackson – Nanaia Mahuta – Ratana faction)
        
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        May 6, 2022 9:29am
      - pdm
        
        Thanks forthe clarification Maggy.
        
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        May 6, 2022 9:45am
      - Blog-aholic
        
        Sorry clicked the wrong icon Maggie. What I meant to say was becaue she is of Cook decent she will never be in that cabal. You have to be one of the chosen and to them she can never be.
        
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        May 6, 2022 10:06am
      - Sarkozygroupie
        
        Louisa Wall is female, Maori and lesbian and she got kicked out.
        
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        May 7, 2022 12:26am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      No CJ, she is not safe. There is a limitless pool of inept Labour Party people that can take that job and do it just as hopelessly. They’d be better having a cardboard cutout doing it. With a white board speech bubble above it, that way they could write the slogan of the day up every morning at 8.
      
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      May 6, 2022 9:12am
      - Ehlana
        
        Can they appoint a retired police dog? Less expensive than a minister, more feared by criminals and more trusted by the public.
        
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        May 6, 2022 9:50am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        @Ehlana – and much more intelligent!
        
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        May 6, 2022 4:14pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    You cannot polish a turd
    
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    May 6, 2022 8:30am
  - artemisia
    
    Interesting to see who puts a hand up to stand again in 2023. Sitting MPs especially if electorate, clearly have a strong advantage but that doesn’t necessarily translate to selection or a winnable List place.
    
    Poto Williams must be seen as a weak link by Labour, and perhaps there will be a sinecure available in exchange for a quiet exit. There is precedent. Of course there is also Phil Twyford.
    
    Some of those Labour backbenchers will be looking at options.
    
    The media has not been kind to Poto Williams of late, which is a broad hint. Mind you the media has also issued broad hints to Mr Sprinkler, but in his case the Prime Minister has stepped in to say don’t be so mean.
    
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    May 6, 2022 11:12am
  - crikey
    
    “Might be time for Poto Williams to be polishing up her cv”.
    
    That won’t take long, very little to add.
    
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    May 6, 2022 11:18am
- Swifty
  
  Pathetic.
  
  Poto Williams, she’s no Maggie Thatcher.
  
  Poto wilts at the first sign of pressure and quickly reaches for the misogyny card.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:27am
- wilderbeast
  
  100%. I thought it was pathetic and ego centric. I mean real people are suffering the real consequences of real crime, often heinously so and Poto makes it about herself. What a lightweight, selfish clown she is.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:28am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  I am so glad you have put your criticism of Poto Williams on the record, Tony. For the record, future historians will be able to refer to that alongside your unwavering support for every national party leader of the past 20 years.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:28am
  - graham
    
    Would you care to put your opinion of Poto Williams on the record, mikenmildagain?
    
    Do you think she is doing a good job? If so, why?
    
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    May 6, 2022 11:11am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      8 hours later, no response from MnM to the challenge laid down by Graham.
      
      That’s Mikey – all mouth & no trousers.
      
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      May 6, 2022 7:33pm
- Chris R
  
  Poto Williams is without doubt an idiot with a low IQ but so too is Ms Hawkesby. He juvenile squawking would not be heard by anyone were it not the fact she shares a pillow with Mike Hosking.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:55am
  - tui47
    
    Hawkesby was in media well before she met Hosking.
    
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    May 6, 2022 2:58pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    As opposed to you Chris, an idiot with a high IQ?
    
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    May 6, 2022 4:16pm
  - Scooter
    
    I have to agree re the squawking, her up and down tones are really off putting, I wish she’d talk in a more balanced calm manner.
    
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    May 6, 2022 7:15pm
Paulus

It is being suggested that Little’s new Committee, which will not be ready until very much later in the year, regarding Hospital Waiting lists is being delayed so that the new Maori Health Authority, led by Mahuta sister will be able to see what the selection ratio for Maori can be accommodated first.
p.s. there are no Surgeons anyway, let alone Maori ones.
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May 6, 2022 8:10am
- RoboRob
  
  I wouldn’t want to be operated on by a Maori Surgeon even if there was one.
  
  Not because I am racist but because there is no guarantee they are any good. University entrance criteria in NZ allows Maori on courses ahead of better qualified students just because they are Maori. It is quite possible to be on a course that you would not have qualified for, if you are the only Maori that applies.
  
  The problem with equal opportunities policies is that they totally devalue the achievements excellent minority students.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:56am
  - Batman
    
    Except for the subsequent five years or so of medical school where they have to meet the exact same requirements and standards as other students.
    
    That’s the guarantee. Otherwise it’s just fear based racism to claim they’re not any good.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:11am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      True Batman.
      
      But can’t we express a demand for a culturally safe surgeon – someone who understands our culture and our needs.
      
      So on that basis I should be able to demand a surgeon of European ethnicity IF I so choose.
      
      Sauce for the goose is sauce for gander and all that.
      
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      May 6, 2022 9:21am
    - Nukuleka
      
      It’s an interesting one isn’t it, Batman. If you take two individuals of differing academic intelligence and ability and give them 5 years of identical medical training will they end up having equal competence and medical ability? You obviously think the answer is yes. Others may disagree.
      
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      May 6, 2022 9:22am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Scientific evidence, and all our personal experience, is extremely clear that higher intelligence correlates strongly with higher job performance – in the absence of other issues like differential levels of conscientiousness etc.
        
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        May 6, 2022 11:34am
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Agreed Batman. Question though, they are just being given pretty much a free pass at pre-med stage?
      Question, if a non-Maori misses the cut because a Maori, who got lesser grades, was give the spot, does the non-Maori get to repeat pre-med?
      
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      May 6, 2022 9:29am
      - Batman
        
        No they’re not getting a free pass. They still have to meet the same grades.
        
        Go ask the universities your second question.
        
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        May 6, 2022 11:08am
    - gravedodger
      
      Subject far too serious, Batman, for any attempt at humour.
      Subtle though.
      
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      May 6, 2022 9:37am
      - Batman
        
        You heat but I’m serious. And also to the replies questioning whether you’d get the same quality after medical school.
        
        The claim doesn’t stack up, at all. The medical programmes are hugely over subscribed and plenty of people who meet the grade do not get in because fifteen other people got an A+ instead of an A, or however they score the first year health sciences course.
        
        The Maori student still need to meet the standards of the programme all the way through. Putting aside a set number of places is a way of ensuring our NZ identity is captured in the doctors we are churning out.
        
        I’ve found Maori and Pasifika medical professionals to be some of the most onto it and friendly people to deal with. Far better than, dare I say it, someone with English as a second language or cultural attitudes which clash with our own.
        
        This made up hysteria about medical students all just comes back to not wanting to recognise out imbalanced history, and to pretend that everyone has an equal go of it. It’s a fantasyland.
        
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        May 6, 2022 11:05am
      - Jack5
        
        🦇Batty, there are other groups in society under-represented in medical school courses.
        
        For example, poorer non-Maori kids, especially when they are from outside centres with university medical schools and thus face greater challenges in student living costs.
        
        Another selection possibility is tying entry to years of post-graduation service either in NZ generally or in regions, cities, or even suburbs with doctor shortages. This system was once used with school teachers, and may still be.
        
        As well as countering economic inequality, this system would swing at least part of selection away from intelligence and scholastic skills and towards the equally admirable qualities of persistence and patience.
        
        Maori are equally intelligent to, and are as capable as non-Maori, and deserve better than preferential race-based entry. That marks them as needing special treatment.
        
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        May 6, 2022 10:12pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      I would want a maximally skilled surgeon.
      
      Race, or any other non-competency based selection criteria delivers minimally skilled surgeons.
      
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      May 6, 2022 9:46am
      - peterwn
        
        There would be no correlation between a surgeon’s skills and the marks he or she got in the initial ‘Health Science’ year. Quite apart from completing the medical degree a prospective surgeon (or other specialist) still has to undertake specialist post graduate training with tough exams (including interviews) becoming a fully fledged surgeon.
        
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        May 6, 2022 10:46am
      - Bridgenag
        
        Have a friend busy going about learning Te Reo because the Mainland hospital is going to =renegotiate conditions [money I guess] etc and “if they learn Te Reo they will be be better able to negotiate ” FFS …. frightening
        
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        May 6, 2022 3:00pm
    - leoj
      
      Two spots left for medical school, one has superior examination marks, the other, Maori.
      You are on board with giving the spot to someone based on ethnicity.
      Sick, but not surprising.
      The left know no bounds of stupidity.
      
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      May 6, 2022 9:50am
      - Stellaboxer
        
        Yeah why bother to get good grades ?Just identify as one of the special people or go overseas.
        
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        May 6, 2022 1:53pm
    - G152
      
      Yup.
      Got a smashed femur fixed byu Peter Tapsell.
      Good bloke fine surgeon
      
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      May 6, 2022 9:57am
    - septic skeptic
      
      Which might explain very few Maori surgeons and plenty of doctors publishing papers on the effects of colonization on whatever.
      
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      May 6, 2022 10:08am
    - RoboRob
      
      Re the 5yrs training.
      
      I would rather have the excellent surgeon / doctor who passed with A+ on their papers / practicle rather than a c- averaging student who has scraped through a course.
      
      Don’t assume that the differentiation between Maori requirements ends at the front door.
      
      There is a huge range in people who pass any course.
      
      Anyway my point were
      1) Allowing different standards based on race means good students results are deminished in the eyes of employers / the public.
      
      2) You have no idea how good a surgeon / doctor / pilot / plumber is. But if you know that the requirements around Maori (or any other ethnicity) are lower, than odds are that person might be in the lower range.
      
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      May 6, 2022 11:30am
    - surfing
      
      Why don’t Māoris like nursing? They want all the top jobs for free, not interested in hard working lower paid jobs though.
      
      If it is so easy to get medical degrees, then why not just run a lottery based system?
      
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      May 6, 2022 1:39pm
  - Nickc2
    
    IMO, being a non Non-Maori wont even get you on the list for surgery if Mahuta’s rellies are on the board.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:49am
  - Jimbo666
    
    Entry requirement for Maori criteria is 80% exam results. Non Maori need to achieve 94% to gain entry.
    How is that fair and equitable?
    
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    May 6, 2022 11:15am
    - Stellaboxer
      
      How is that fair ? It’s not especially to Māori who are presumed to be lesser and because they are made allowances for are then viewed as such. It’s the racism that festers in the boutique left.
      
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      May 6, 2022 1:57pm
    - Hebe123
      
      They are not set in stone. Two years ago a lad up the road got 94% and didn’t get in. If Maori you had to get over 70 so many of those chosen on race were poor B students.
      
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      May 6, 2022 2:04pm
  - Taieri
    
    University entrance criteria in NZ allows Maori on courses ahead of better qualified students just because they are Maori
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    Why assume that all Maori medical students were admitted just because of their ethnicity and not on the merit? Very patronizing…
    
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    May 6, 2022 12:46pm
    - Hebe123
      
      Seen it in action. Very few of the maori that got in were academically anywhere near the level at which non maori/Pacifica were cut.
      
      You get special treatment on race, the decile school you attended, being from a poor family (or having to live independently of family as in the case of my brothers foster kid) and if you come from a rural area. 120 of the ~200 places at Otago med go to these minorities.
      
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      May 6, 2022 2:08pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Majority to the minorities – no joking matter
        
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        May 6, 2022 7:42pm
    - curry4me
      
      Why not, unless one can ask; or there is a list?
      
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      May 6, 2022 2:55pm
- 7kiwi11
  
  Yes, the little to no Maori surgeons doesn’t really work for the “by maori, for maori” ethos they keep peddling out does it? Funding maori is unlikely to be “by maori, for maori “either come to think of it.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:23am
  - surfing
    
    The issue is that academic standards need to be dropped or lowered for Māoris wanting to specialise in surgery.
    
    Are there any Māoris surgeons or anaesthetists? If not, why? Given that 120 out of 200 places are reserved for Māoris at Otago med school each year.
    
    I smell racism at the upper levels of medicine. They’re happy to let Māoris become gp’s but not surgeons.
    
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    May 6, 2022 1:44pm
Stellaboxer

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/16/fortress-new-zealand-no-country-set-reopen-borders-two-years/. The piece is a little old but wow read the comments. I’ve been saying for a while that I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for the tourists influx .
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May 6, 2022 8:11am
Andrew Worth

In the Depp – Heard case I saw almost no coverage on NZ TV while Depp’s case was being presented, but plenty of coverage now that the actress gets to do her thing.
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May 6, 2022 8:14am
- thetiedarch
  
  I suspect that if Depp wins the case, the media and usual suspects will scream about the sexism and misogyny of the courts.
  
  This case is a lose-lose for Depp and men who are victims of domestic abuse.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:25am
  - Andrew Worth
    
    Given the intransigent divide in US ideology I expect several on the jury will vote according to their ideology rather than the weight evidence, so a split decision is most likely, resulting in Depp losing.
    
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    May 6, 2022 8:57am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      On the other hand, Johnny D is a major star whereas Amber is C-List at best. That counts for something in the Land of the Free.
      
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      May 6, 2022 7:45pm
- MCōs
  
  Should’ve turned your television on.
  There was plenty of footage of his testimony.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:37am
- Raphael
  
  The media is still stuck in the “believe all women” mode.
  
  The fact is both men and women can be the abuser, and everything I’ve heard in this case so far (and I have been listening to the full court streams via Rekeita Law on Youtube) is that Heard was the abuser and Depp the victim in this case. Listening to her testimony, there is no supporting testimony from witnesses who are meant to have seen all this that support her. (in fact the witnesses testified so far the opposite)
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:40am
  - Nickc2
    
    Don’t forget abuse doesn’t have to be physical. There’s also verbal, silent, and emotional abuse I believe.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:57am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  I’ve been stupid enough to watch a few of the clips of this. I guess the big question is, what bloke, in their right mind, would ever go near Amber Heard?
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:31am
  - Biscuit
    
    That said, IVV, I’d not want to find myself too close to Johnny Depp either!
    
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    May 6, 2022 2:49pm
- blue collar
  
  Misandry alive and well 😁
  
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  May 6, 2022 5:41pm
Simon

Spike protein illnesses emerging: cardiac, neuro, immunologic, and hematologic are likely due to cumulative loading. For example, mandated #1, 2, get C-URI, #3, these are progressively loading the body with Wuhan wild-type Spike protein driving disease VTE, CVD, MYO, CA etc.

https://twitter.com/P_McCulloughMD/status/1520731761818415104?cxt=HHwWgMC53d3e3JoqAAAA

Look up the vaccination injury prevention protocols. Keep safe.
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May 6, 2022 8:15am
Maggie Pie

Reminds me of something Nelson Mandela made reference to in his book….

‘The Group Areas Act’ – only in reverse 🙁

https://twitter.com/OneRedCents/status/1521841747806277633
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May 6, 2022 8:18am
krazykiwi

Remember the Gregorian chant-like intonement of Safe and Effective™?

For anyone with their eyes open this evidence-defying claim is unwinding faster than a kitten with ball of wool.

This today: German Study with around 40,000 participants: (needs Google translate)

The number of serious complications after vaccinations against Sars-CoV-2 is 40 times higher than previously recorded by the Paul Ehrlich Institute (PEI) [kk: Germany’s official body]. This is one of the results of a long-term observational study by the Berlin Charité. Study director Professor Harald Matthes is now calling for more contact points for those affected.

The study “Safety Profile of Covid-19 Vaccines” (“ImpfSurv” for short), which focuses on the effects and side effects of the various vaccines, has been running for a year. Around 40,000 vaccinated people are interviewed at regular intervals throughout Germany. Participation in the study is voluntary and independent of how the vaccines work in the subjects.

One result: eight out of 1,000 vaccinated people struggle with serious side effects. “The number is not surprising,” explains Prof. Dr. Harald Matthes, head of the study: “It corresponds to what is known from other countries such as Sweden, Israel or Canada. Incidentally, even the manufacturers of the vaccines had already determined similar values in their studies.” With conventional vaccines, such as against polio or measles, the number of serious side effects is significantly lower.

The bottom line: We were lied to by Ardern’s government so that today tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of New Zealanders are carrying some from of known or latent injury from these genetic treatments.

Who will be held to account? When will this happen?
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May 6, 2022 8:19am
- Andrew Worth
  
  “Participation in the study is voluntary and independent of how the vaccines work in the subjects.”
  
  Does that mean or not mean that the participants are self selecting?
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:25am
  - krazykiwi
    
    I don’t know as I’m still to locate the raw study data. I’d note that voluntary and self-selecting are not necessarily the same thing.
    
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    May 6, 2022 8:44am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Here is the study design: https://epidemiologie.charite.de/fileadmin/user_upload/microsites/m_cc01/epidemiologie/Projekte_en_andere/ImpfSurv_en.pdf
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:10am
    - Andrew Worth
      
      Looks like there would be the opportunity for plenty of self selecting by those with symptoms to report.
      
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      May 6, 2022 9:15am
- Pavel
  
  She will claim she was lied to and pass the buck.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:32am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  You must be crapping yourself KK. Whoops, you already were. Doesn’t matter how many times you try to climb the hill your “herd immunity” BS always sees you fail. Eaves dropping outside bedroom doors these days?
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:49am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    WTF are you actually talking about? You post nothing but bitterness and bile, you have no ability to discuss or debate.
    Covid is and always was a circus. We were lied to about pretty much everything from the very beginning. Ardern has destroyed the economy, destroyed family and friend relationships, wrecked the mental health of a generation, indebted the country for decades and physically damaged people via coercing people to take an experimental drug.
    Herd immunity from infection is clearly proven to be far superior to any short lived “vaccine” induced protection. It has the added advantage of working on other variants of respiratory illness and best of all, doesn’t do irreparable harm to your heart or your innate immunes system. End of story.
    
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    May 6, 2022 10:31am
    - blue collar
      
      I’m not sure if B Mac is dumb … or just thick ?
      
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      May 6, 2022 5:43pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Nobody can be held to account. You can not sue, the Govt (or any Ministry), the manufacturer, the importers, or even ACC.
  This is safe, but take it at your own peril.
  “Nobody will be forced to take the vaccine, and those who choose to opt out will not be penalised” or something. Jaspinda Ardern
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:50am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Well if future governments follow Ardern’s example, it will be possible to retrospectively introduce legislation to make sure those responsible are held to account. She certainly did it effortlessly and without batting an eyelid. Must be kosher.
    
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    May 6, 2022 10:33am
  - mawm
    
    She might not be held to account but a thorough review by a reputable panel with open terms AND full public disclosure and discourse might result in enough condemnation that she will never again be able to hold public office.
    
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    May 6, 2022 1:43pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  In the first year we were fighting an impossible task because we were fighting against “experts” and their “models”. It was totally nonsensical as they could make up whatever shit they wanted by changing one or more variables, and they did – repeatedly. All to support a preordained narrative as directed by Brenda and her Ministry of “the single source of truth”. It’s still to be determined who she is serving but it isn’t the people of NZ.
  
  In turn, this “trust the science” garbage was backed up by hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars thrown at mainstream media via special “funds” and an advertising dollars lolly scramble that is still ongoing. All to ensure we were subjected to repeated “sustained propaganda” as directed by Brenda. We were lied to, we were propagandised, we were conned.
  
  it was always going to take time for the real world data to emerge to show up this dangerous, idiotic narrative for what it is. That data is coming in torrents now.
  There needs to be accountability. There need to be criminal charges, particularly aimed at the higher profile “experts” who so many trusted. These people are totally culpable, either for willfully lying or gross negligence and malfeasance. There was no excuse.
  The media will duck for cover, but their reputation is already deep in the gutter and will stay there long after the funding is removed.
  But ultimately, no matter how many she throws under the bus in a desperate attempt to save herself and her shredded reputation, it is Brenda who is primarily responsible for this shit show circus. She was the director. She was the one who shut down any opposing voices, maliciously and viciously. From lowly burger joint, minimum wage plebs, all the way up to renowned and qualified people who were dismissed and derided.
  I really hope there will be justice. For those maligned, physically, mentally and financially – but especially for those responsible. It has been the most disgusting and sad couple of years of my life.
  
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  May 6, 2022 10:01am
  - mawm
    
    Those at Medsafe who had the responsibility for evaluating and approving the mRNA vaccines have failed in their job which is primarily to ensure the safety of New Zealanders. They need to be severely censured. Perhaps withdrawal of their registration with their respective statutory bodies as has happened with doctors who have quite correctly criticised the therapeutic product.
    
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    May 6, 2022 1:57pm
  - Lee C
    
    Amen. to that Mcleod
    I’ve been around a while, including the darkest days of Thatcherism.
    
    I’ve distrusted Governments before, have never actually feared one.
    
    Ardern’s Government was the single exception – I both distrusted and feared it.
    
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    May 6, 2022 2:27pm
Tomtoddy

Orr at the Res Bank being his typically loud, bully-boy self failing to accept an ounce of blame despite his gross mishandling of his one very focused job.

Did any MP tackle him from a position of strength, knowledge and integrity?

What he should have said yesterday was “because we and the Government have mishandled monetary and fiscal policy over the last 12 months or so, your mortgage may well become unmanageable. If interest rates go to where they were 6 or 7 years ago you may not be able to survive. Take what ever action you can now to limit your possible exposure”.

Every percentage point of rise on a $750,000 loan costs another $150 a week and a rise of 4 or 5 points is possible.
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May 6, 2022 8:20am
- Nickc2
  
  Agree. There will be Mortgagee Sales and lost deposits aplenty. We know who to blame, but will we, come the next election?
  
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  May 6, 2022 10:11am
G152

Anything happening with or to Mallard?
Been a few days and nothing in the media
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May 6, 2022 8:24am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Media have been told not to report anything, or no more spongy pudding.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:52am
- nathie
  
  Heard on the radio yesterday (ZB) that he hasn’t been available for media interviews for the previous 3 days (so is he the latest MP to go into Labour’s Witless Protection Scheme to avoid MSM scrutiny then? If so fancy that, a bully going into hiding, what a wuss)!
  
  But apparently (according to the same radio report) he did actually appear in a social media post to do with the US Ambassador … goodness knows what for (and hopefully not for a slap-up freebie lunch) … perhaps he was inquiring about the latest developments in the US regarding sprinkler and loudspeaker systems?
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:17am
  - Nickc2
    
    Is he the next NZ Ambassador to the US or is there a position becoming available in Ireland next week?
    
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    May 6, 2022 10:17am
Maggy Wassilieff

Were the Pupils sitting NCEA last year fairly and equally treated across the Country?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/unexpected-event-grades-nzqa-confident-marks-were-fair-despite-auckland-students-better-grades/YPCDC2H6IMDUPPV2EKB467BVDE/

The NZQA says yes… but there really is no way to prove this.
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May 6, 2022 8:24am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  When was the last time you heard a public agency admitting to a recent mistake?
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:28am
- surfing
  
  No they weren’t fair. To say they were fair, would be to admit that we don’t really need students to attend school.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:31am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  “…. NCEA attainment data released this week shows 25 per cent of year 13s who sat Level 3 got an excellence endorsement, up from 16 per cent in 2019 and 20 per cent in 2020.”
  
  Maybe ALK’ders are just getting “brighter”??
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:37am
  - surfing
    
    I predict that Auckland students will fall back to normal levels this year, because they will not receive the special gradings they were given last year.
    
    But, we won’t find out until this time next year!! This is a huge scandal if this happens, because it would be definitive proof that they advantaged Auckland / Northland / Waikato students.
    
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    May 6, 2022 8:45am
- cjn
  
  At least these results seem to prove that you don’t need to attend school to pass an exam. That should save the taxpayer a lot of money.
  
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  May 6, 2022 3:32pm
curry4me

PM Jacinda Ardern will be at the Region 5 Conference of the Labour Party at 8 am on Saturday. The venue is Christchurch Boys High School, 71 Straven Road, Fendalton.
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May 6, 2022 8:29am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  No kindies on Saturdays?
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:59am
  - curry4me
    
    No, just the ‘team of 55 million, and conference attendees. Hopefully, a peaceful demonstrator or three.
    
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    May 6, 2022 3:01pm
- iMP
  
  Ironically Don Brash, Chris Luxon’s old high school (and Max Bradford et al).
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:07am
  - MCōs
    
    Not to mention Rewi Alley and Chris Martin.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:29am
  - curry4me
    
    Oh, I didn’t know that. In the 80s, and 90s it was the source of all the best black humour. I guess if today’s students heard any of them; they’d need a trip to the ‘safe space’.
    
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    May 6, 2022 3:04pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Lordy, there was a day when CBHS wouldn’t have had a bar of the Labour Party. I’ve heard the muppet they have as Headmaster isn’t up to much (not a patch on McIntyre), so no surprises I guess.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:37am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCfWbfZ4fbY

How Hunter’s $30M Chinese Deals “Enriched the Entire Family”: Peter Schweizer | Facts Matter.

Business deals in China have been very good for the Biden family. [13:41]
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May 6, 2022 8:29am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Both Hunter and Joe also have unfinished business in Ukraine. They are shitting themselves that someone will spill the beans and expose both of them. They need to be silenced (my opinion).
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdHWU5jDQ2w
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:10am
Maggy Wassilieff

A few days ago someone was commenting about children having free visits to the local GP.

Looks like that’s not the case for 9 GP practices in the Hawkes Bay
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/128521324/free-gp-visits-for-1417-year-olds-canned-at-several-hawkes-bay-health-clinics

The contracts for Free Health care has gone to a Maori Foundation.
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May 6, 2022 8:30am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Off the topic, but I was amused by this in the linked article:
  
  “Health Minister Andrew Little has announced a ‘high power taskforce’ tasked with clearing the long hospital backlogs.”
  
  Won’t they just report back and say “You broke the health system.”?
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:36am
  - RoboRob
    
    No. They will report back that there are system failures. But their job isn’t to identify anything or fix anything. Their job is to just ‘exist’, so that little can say ‘I have done something…. blah blah blah … Taskfore’.
    
    if Labour really wanted to do something they wouldn’t have removed the performance targets, reporting and goals from the health system.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:02am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      So many get to almost the top of the waiting list, then wham, the list has gone. Got to start the whole process again right from the GP.
      
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      May 6, 2022 9:13am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    They could have told him that over the phone and saved millions. But then, that’s how they maintain these “jobs”.
    
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    May 6, 2022 10:38am
  - Hugh Jarse
    
    Agree Benedict. Maybe the Minister of Health at the time of the first lock down (or second or third) should have tasked the DHB’s with planning and reporting back to him how to back capture the treatments and operations they were clearly going to cancel rather than as usual leave it until 2 years after the event when people have died or got worse as a result of that negligence. However that’s what an effective leader would do but instead we had one more focussed on mountain biking and one more focussed on throwing NZ health system into an ill timed restructure.
    
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    May 6, 2022 3:26pm
- surfing
  
  Everything goes to maori these days. Our water, our democracy, and our education.
  
  So , not surprised.
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:38am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Our money, lots of our money.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:10am
- pdm
  
  Maggy that is what prompted my question.
  
  I got a heads up from my medical center before it became public.
  
  Probably my first ever scoop.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:05am
curry4me

Australia Cuts Trade Deal With India.

“For economic reasons, we’re gonna have to replace China in supply chains and frankly, there is no better substitute for China and so many of their supply chains than India, given India’s very sophisticated manufacturing base,” Abbott told WION in remarks published on Monday.
“That’s why China is not a trustworthy partner at the moment. China has been weaponizing trade against us, China has been either bribing or bullying other countries right around the region, including quite close to India, and this is just not right,” he added. “Relationships have got to be on a fair, honorable and transparent basis and that hasn’t always been the case with China.”
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May 6, 2022 8:30am
- RoboRob
  
  Love Aussie politicians. They are really straight shooters with this sort of stuff. None of the weasel word soup salad we get here.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:05am
  - curry4me
    
    Well the Liberal and National ones are anyhow.
    
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    May 6, 2022 3:06pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Play school TV1 this morning, David Shanks is moving on from Chief Censor. Looks like he has had a gutsful of the whining snowflake bitchy petals that are offended at everything.
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May 6, 2022 8:34am
- pdm
  
  Not so sure Steve.
  
  I know David Shanks – maybe a high Labour list seat comining up – his sister was Electorate Secretary for Rick Barker during his term so David will have good Labour contacts.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:07am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I am just thinking that he does not want the responsibility that goes with being Chief Censor, so a list MP will be an easy job with no strings attached.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:19am
- curry4me
  
  What a waste of space that role is. Anyone would think it was 1922.
  
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  May 6, 2022 3:07pm
kowtow

Can’t help but contrast the Media Pardy / Offenderatti response to the guy talking about how not to do a share launch ( there was a context afterall) and their non chalance about wot an MP and Minister of the Crown had to say about the Freedom Folk at Wellington.
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May 6, 2022 8:39am
I remember when

Is the danger, with the overwhelming criticism received by Simon Henry, that his message gets overlooked.
Nadia Lim is a ‘celebrity chef’ who since her cooking success has appeared in endless ‘fluff’ pieces.
This is not an essential part of the recipe, for financial success, when getting advice for investing in a sharemarket startup.
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May 6, 2022 8:45am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It looks very much like a publicity stunt as the share-selling restrictions (Escrows) for My Food Bag end next week.
  
  https://businessdesk.co.nz/article/opinion/rocket-lab-v-my-food-bag-a-tale-of-two-ipos
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:07am
  - Biscuit
    
    You’re as cynical as I am, Maggy!
    
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    May 6, 2022 2:53pm
- RoboRob
  
  Whilst I do think his comments could have been worded a lot better, this is being taken totally out of context.
  
  My understanding is that he was commenting on how his ‘ugly board’ had done very well with their IPO vs the glossy IPO from Nadia and co. His company is up massively since launch, Nadias is apparently down.
  
  Nadia (and all celebs) has traded on her fame and looks. I think the point (to a business mag) was substance over style. In that respect he has a good point.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:18am
  - MCōs
    
    Except she’s not on the board of My Food Bag or the senior leadership team.
    Mr H seems to suggest it’s all about Ms Lim, a Kiwi woman whose parents happen to be Malaysian.
    Furthermore
    By referring to her as ‘fluff’ he infers she’s some sort of bimbo.
    
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    May 6, 2022 10:20am
    - RoboRob
      
      The comments are inappropriate and ruin his argument. The point isn’t if she is on the board or senior leadership team, its that she used her celebrity status and looks to sell the prospectus.
      
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      May 6, 2022 1:14pm
      - MCōs
        
        Except he said she was on the board.
        
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        May 6, 2022 4:29pm
Maggie Pie

We were discussing the furore over the comments made by DGL’s ceo Simon Henry about Nadia Lim’s titties 😀

My partner reckons it was unfortunate that the Press focused on what was meant as nothing more than a JOKE….when the ‘real message’ about the dismal performance of My-Food-Bag shares was completely overlooked.

He reminded me of what happened to Bendon after I’d appeared as a lingerie model in THEIR Prospectus.
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May 6, 2022 8:46am
- RoboRob
  
  Style vs substance. People should’t buy into companies due to the personalities involved (No I am not buying Doge coin crypto no matter how much Elon Musk craps on about it) or the attractiveness of the people involved.
  
  His otherwise good point was ruined by the ‘Eurasion fluff’ comment.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:27am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    My partner’s mum reckoned it wasn’t that much different to how Bob Jones used to describe ‘Wide-Boy-Property-Developers’ in her day. With their Porsches, white shoes, Rolex watches, blonde girlfriends and cell phones.
    
    He warned investors not to go near them. Turned out to be 100% correct apparently.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:52am
    - RoboRob
      
      Yup. Still see that with real-estate agents too.
      
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      May 6, 2022 1:16pm
- Cinematic
  
  Dreams are free Maggie.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:46am
My

Should have put Damien in charge of Covid elimination. And stacked the Ministry of Health with MPI staff.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/05/budget-2022-mycoplasma-bovis-eradication-hits-significant-milestone-as-government-confirms-100m-investment-in-biosecurity.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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May 6, 2022 8:48am
- I remember when
  
  My: They would have had to cull a very large number of co-morbidity and venerable people in the process.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:04am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  So nice of the Dear PM to turn up to a “Good news announcement”…. even if it was about saving dreadful methane- burping money-earners.
  
  If the news was bad, we imagine it would have been left to Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor to do the announcing and he may well have stalled until Friday, when journalists and commentators are packing up for the weekend. But the news in this case is good and – hey – guess who shared the platform with the Minister to announce it?
  
  Why, none other than the PM.
  
  https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2022/05/05/buzz-from-the-beehive-good-news-about-the-war-on-mycoplasma-bovis-and-the-pm-pops-up-with-oconnor-to-announce-it/
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:12am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Re that announcement, this was from Mr Robot on Twitter. He picked up on this gem of Ardern proving that her whole covid circus response is nothing more than a sham.
    
    “If I want to define SCIENCE in the last 2 years i can well explain it in less than 30 sec from this clip …..”
    
    https://twitter.com/EllioT_MR___/status/1522284299134939136?s=20&t=wMF5n4SFfn-pHVuw9eQJgA
    
    Masks are theatre, pure and simple. Look at Damien O’Connor rolling over like the poodle he and all the other Labour MPs are. “Shall I boss? What do you want me to do? On? Off? Whatever you say Brenda……”
    
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    May 6, 2022 10:50am
- westernScientist
  
  Interesting at the bottom of the article, a seldom observed mild msm criticism:
  
  A study released by the University of Otago last year found the eradication programme had been “traumatic” for farmers. The researchers found farmers’ local knowledge was largely ignored in favour of “inefficient bureaucratic processes”.
  
  The start of the rollout of the plan didn’t go down well with some farmers, with a Newshub investigation in 2019 finding major shortcomings and the Director-General of the Ministry of Primary Industries apologising to farmers for how the programme was handled. An independent review last year found improvements had been made.
  
  It has been a royal F up, the entire thing. Down to 1 property by no means it is gone either. I have seen the count down to 3, but dont check it weekly, then it goes back up. Its mainly just been a government bashing tool to hate on farmers.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:34am
  - westernScientist
    
    For example, July 2020 gvt patting themselves on the back about how wonderful they are
    
    https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/mbovis-eradication-makes-gains-three-years-detection
    
    Down to 4 properties, since then there has been another 20 odd properties added to the list.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:41am
    - Matt Long
      
      As an example this time last year I had a farmer ring because MPI had locked his farm down last thing on a Friday, taken their phone off the hook and uncontactable.
      He’d just had a torrential rainfall, needed to get cows off his farm down the road to a grazing block and 80 to the works and couldn’t do a thing.
      MPI treats farmers very poorly and lacks competency in a lot of areas.
      
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      May 6, 2022 2:42pm
- rangitoto
  
  Shoot everyone who got sick? That was the Kim Jong Un method IIRC.
  
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  May 6, 2022 10:29am
- oldfella
  
  My, pleased to hear that we’ve almost crushed mycoplasma bovis.
  [Deleted, sexism – Mod]
  
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  May 6, 2022 11:09am
I remember when

Watts Up With That:
My Testimony On New York’s “Scoping Plan” To Achieve Net Zero Carbon Emmissions: Francis Menton:

A very good identification of the depth of much of the CO2 knowledge in the population.
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May 6, 2022 8:48am
Si334

Well ‘advantaged’ in terms of final grades, sure. I would also argue significantly disadvantaged in terms of being locked down and forgotten for the second half of the year ….. As a parent of 2 x 16 year olds, that hasnt been without consequence.
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May 6, 2022 9:13am
Benedict Yu

This is predictable but worrying.

This is an ad seeking people in New Zealand and Australia to participate in a clinical trial to test the simultaneous application of the COVID vaccine and the flu vaccine.

https://trials.evrima.com.au/covid19-flu-medical-study?utm_campaign=Pfizer%20COVID-19&utm_source=website&utm_medium=website%20%28stuff%29

Looks like they are gearing up to give people the COVID vaccine annually at the same time folk get the flu vaccine.

20 years ago I became very sick with influenza. Ever since I have been vaccinated annually. I don’t like the idea of having a COVID vaccine yearly.
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May 6, 2022 9:20am
- westernScientist
  
  So, a lot less people will get the flu vaccine voluntarily….. I can sense some new mandates coming…..
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:36am
- ClanMcleod
  
  BY – Then don’t do it.
  
  “You comply because you want it to end. But it never ends because you comply.”
  
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  May 6, 2022 10:52am
mandk

I share you concerns.

I had real flu in my mid-30s and it was the sickest I have ever been. I felt so bad that I thought I might die, but I felt so terrible that I didn’t care.

Ever since then, I had had an annual flu jab. But, if it was available only with the covid Vax I would pass.
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May 6, 2022 9:31am
Maggie Pie

Would come as no surprise to most that Justice Minister Chris Faafoi, has been kind enough to ‘grant a reprieve’ to extradite a murder-suspect back to China so he can face trial.
Far better he stays here costing taxpayers and the health system a fortune.
Watch it fall from the radar.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/128559520/extradition-case-faafoi-signals-reprieve-for-now-for-ill-murder-suspect-who-fears-being-sent-to-china

My partner headed away to the maimai earlier.
I was intrigued to read in the story that China has people employed as full-time….. ‘Sparrow Hunters’
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May 6, 2022 9:39am
- Pavel
  
  I’ve always found this case a bit weird. The guy is being accused of murder. Now call me old school but murder is a pretty damn serious charge. How is it even possible that they are covering for a murderer because he might not be treated too nice when he gets there. Is the minister convinced beyond reasonable doubt that he is innocent or something? How would the government feel if a foreign tourist came here, murdered someone, went home and then couldn’t be extradited back? So many questions.
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:47am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It seems this Korean citizen was less than honest with our authorities when he fled back to NZ 12 years ago.
  
  From China Kim went to Korea, and, despite the “red notice” that was supposed to flag his wanted status to immigration authorities, he was able to return to New Zealand in 2010.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/75150239/kyung-yup-kim-fights-decision-to-send-him-to-china-to-face-murder-charges?rm=m
  
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  May 6, 2022 9:51am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    NZ has become a soft touch for the worlds human Flotsam & Jetsam.
    
    People will wake up one day. Too late.
    
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    May 6, 2022 9:59am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Speaking of human Flotsam & Jetsam – any update of Behrouz Boochani?
      
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      May 6, 2022 10:08am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        He was of course granted refugee-status a couple of years ago.
        Haven’t heard anything from him for a few months.
        Gone a bit quiet for some reason.
        
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        May 6, 2022 12:16pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        He’s the subject of a Doco due for release in Christchurch next month
        
        https://newsline.ccc.govt.nz/news/story/christchurch-to-host-world-premiere-of-behrouz-doco
        
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        May 6, 2022 12:59pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        And even though he spent half his life evading Iranian authorities…. Golriz is rumored to have a part in it as well.
        
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        May 6, 2022 1:51pm
      - Jack5
        
        The Sydney university UNSW in a plug for an earlier documentary,Stop the Boats, described Boochani as an ” Adjunct Associate Professor”.
        
        I wonder whether this is a very early indication that the border-crashers accepted as refugees to New Zealand will eventually, as New Zealand citizens, be able to settle in Australia?
        
        https://www.events.unsw.edu.au/event/stop-boats-screening-and-qa
        
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        May 6, 2022 2:35pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        He was on the telly the other night, advocating for asylum seeker rights
        
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        May 6, 2022 7:59pm
- G152
  
  I see the lump of lard is still here rather than suitably celled up in the US.
  Does not compute
  
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  May 6, 2022 10:03am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  That was a Mao policy. THey basically eradicated the sparrows then had a locust plague.
  
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  May 6, 2022 10:30am
westernScientist

Countdown announce massive price hikes on over 500 goods on the 8th of May and again at the end of winter:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018840748/countdown-to-freeze-prices-on-essential-items-over-winter
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May 6, 2022 10:04am
103PapPap

Ryan Bridges interviewing Jacinda:
Bridges “What’s your favourite lie PM?”
Jacinda “I don’t tell lies Ryan”
Bridges “Yes, I like that one too”.
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May 6, 2022 10:12am
krazykiwi

Most of us know that Ardern is a WEF acolyte. But I’ve only just learned that Golriz Ghahraman attended that same globalist indoctrination camp in 2020.

Here are the NZ ‘graduates’ :
– David Skilling
– Privahini Bradoo
-Rachel Carrell
-Mark Weldon
-Victoria Ransom
-Charles Rutstein
-Marquis Morgan Boire
-John A. Hood
-Clayton Cosgrove
-Simon Power
-Simon Bridges
-Jacinda Ardern
-Golriz Ghahraman
-Whaimutu K. Dewes
-David Rodin
-Mitchell Pham
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May 6, 2022 10:14am
- ClanMcleod
  
  A handy list when perusing government appointments in future.
  
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  May 6, 2022 10:53am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Here’s the full global list, painstakingly researched as WEF have edited their published graduate data.
    
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    May 6, 2022 11:08am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Grief..
  
  is Marquis Morgan Boire the same person as DJ/hacker
  Morgan Marquis-Boire?
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Marquis-Boire
  
  https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/29/16715018/morgan-marquis-boire-sexual-assault-citizen-lab-toronto-cybersecurity
  
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  May 6, 2022 11:01am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Simon Bridges would appear to be keeping strange company
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:03pm
Maggie Pie

I posted the link to Pfizers latest doc drop on GD yesterday afternoon.
For those who may have missed it….here it is again

https://phmpt.org/pfizers-documents/

You have to sort of feel a bit sorry for Pfizer. Every time they release data on their vaccine injuries and studies, a major news story overshadows it.
Must be sooo frustrating for them. They just can’t seem to get proper media coverage.

Just saying.
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May 6, 2022 10:36am
- ClanMcleod
  
  That’s the data release that proves that the vaccine should never have been given to pregnant women. Unequivocally. Yet Medsafe and the MoH went out of their way to push it onto pregnant women. How can they justify this? The information was available. It is obvious now that the whole “tested and approved” was a straight out rubber stamp exercise. These people didn’t read a single page of the data presented to them or it would be impossible for them to authorise it’s use.
  
  Gross malfeasance.
  
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  May 6, 2022 10:56am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    From what we understand, their own data shows the efficacy rate is only 12% !
    Which means the 95% being thrown around was false.
    
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    May 6, 2022 11:29am
Maggy Wassilieff

What the Media bribe is paying for:

https://theplatform.kiwi/opinions/brand-destruction-hits-the-mainstream-media
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May 6, 2022 10:54am
ClanMcleod

Ardern yet again proving to all those paying attention that “The Science” is settled, especially when it comes to masks.

https://twitter.com/EllioT_MR___/status/1522284299134939136?s=20&t=NiDyD2NnTi3lV17H_2PFfg

This woman is a serial liar and a fraud.
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May 6, 2022 10:59am
- MCōs
  
  ‘Once you assume everything is a lie it’s very hard to discern the truth.’
  Michael Cullen (although anyone could have figured that out)
  
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  May 6, 2022 4:26pm
oldfella

Cactus Kate has some harsh words for NZ’s centre/right.
When National goes soft, Winston gets their vote, ACT gets their vote but more dangerously centre right voters “punish” their team and run off and spread their vote elsewhere. They make batshit crazy decisions for example like the housewives of Auckland when they voted Labour last election because Cindy “saved” them. They even vote for the bloody Greens.
https://asianinvasion2019.blogspot.com/2022/05/why-scomo-and-libs-are-best-learnings.html
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May 6, 2022 11:03am
- Batman
  
  That would be Cathy who has never won an election.
  
  Unlike the National Party.
  
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  May 6, 2022 11:12am
  - oldfella
    
    you don’t need to have played the game to be a competent side-line critic.
    
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    May 6, 2022 11:28am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Somewhere I read that 15 million people have died from Covid Worldwide.
Wonder how many people Worldwide died from Influenza?
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May 6, 2022 11:31am
- westernScientist
  
  apples and oranges because they seem to be counted differently, but for the small amount its worth WHO claims 290 000 to 650 000 deaths and 3 to 5 million cases of severe illness (per year).
  
  https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/influenza-%28seasonal%29
  
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  May 6, 2022 11:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That is just an estimate (290K to 650K) is a wide gap.
    I was meaning did the 15M include flu deaths to get the fear porn number up?
    
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    May 6, 2022 2:32pm
slightlyrighty

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/128549372/27-an-hour-for-housekeeping-jobs-wage-war-looming-in-queenstown

A great article which highlights the inflationary outcome of immigration policy regarding wages for foreign staff.

Another example of a government that hasn’t got a f&#king clue!
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May 6, 2022 11:54am
Opie

https://i.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/300581561/regional-councillor-racially-abused-for-wearing-t-moko

To be fair, it is a pretty ugly tattoo.

But…. it’s his right to have it administered permanently onto his face, and it’s my right to not like it and not take him seriously or employ him or vote for him as a result.

These radicals are all about freedom of expression, as long as it’s theirs not anyone else’s.
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May 6, 2022 11:57am
- MCōs
  
  Whatever his appearance it’s still his right not to be abused.
  It’s a funny thing.
  I see the occasional guy down at the Mangere Bridge shops with all sorts of tattoos and built like AB props. Nobody’s scared of them.
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:54pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION

Would you take someone with a Ta Moko home to meet your mum & dad?

https://twitter.com/RNZTeAoMaori/status/1522362846809849857
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May 6, 2022 12:02pm
- graham
  
  RANDOM IMPERTINENT FOLLOWUP QUESTION:
  
  Would you take someone who was a different race home to meet your mum & dad? Probably not, if you’re Hone Harawira’s daughter.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/harawiras-views-on-dating-widely-shared-says-sharples/ETPVSNDXB3LOUSX6NU3ATW7Y7A/
  
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  May 6, 2022 1:01pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    WOW…have you ever read anything sooo racist?
    
    “He (Hone) seems to have a problem with Pakeha people in general”
    
    – MP Tau Henare
    
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    May 6, 2022 1:39pm
    - greybeard
      
      Me, I have a real problem with the word “pakeha”.
      
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      May 6, 2022 3:53pm
- MCōs
  
  Home is the Timaru cemetery for my parents.
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:08pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Dead are they Cossie?
    
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    May 6, 2022 2:44pm
    - MCōs
      
      Pretty much.
      
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      May 6, 2022 2:55pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Sorry to hear that. I had no idea.
        
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        May 6, 2022 3:27pm
      - MCōs
        
        Dad died 26yrs ago. He was an affable sort of bloke and being a committed Catholic his impending death didn’t really bother him too much.
        He met Mum at the end of WWII and they were married, happily ever after, just a few weeks later.
        Mum died nine years ago.
        
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        May 6, 2022 4:06pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  His body, his choice
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:44pm
gump

The Bank of England is now forecasting that inflation in the UK will rise above 10% before the end of 2022.

Remind me again why Conservative Governments are better for managing the economy?
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May 6, 2022 12:21pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Abnormal circumstances surely transitioning from Covid to a proxy war with Russia?
  
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  May 6, 2022 12:58pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Exhibit A – New Zealand under Ardern.
  
  I rest my case your honor.
  
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  May 6, 2022 1:20pm
- cmm
  
  The moving Overton Window
  
  What now call themselves conservatives are no longer that.
  
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  May 6, 2022 1:28pm
Frank the tank

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/05/mitt-romney-concedes-2024-donald-trump-already/

To Bat

Enjoy

Frank
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May 6, 2022 12:48pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Hope he still has that list of MAGA people here on KB
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:47pm
  - curry4me
    
    Me too. I’ll be ‘offended’ if I’m not at the top. Can Trump supporters be ‘offended’? Or is it only Dems, and the rest of the wokerati?
    
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    May 6, 2022 3:30pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      It is the later
      
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      May 6, 2022 5:31pm
  - Frank the tank
    
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/05/nolte-rematch-poll-shows-trump-defeating-biden-by-14-points/
    
    bahahahahahahaha
    
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    May 6, 2022 3:56pm
- curry4me
  
  Mitt Romney has a pseudonym. Its Pierre Delecto.
  
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  May 6, 2022 3:28pm
Frank the tank

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/128564835/city-rail-link-proposes-four-te-reo-mori-names-for-auckland-train-stations

It’s like whitey doesn’t exist anymore. Rock on New Zimbabwe.
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May 6, 2022 1:19pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  How the fuck will tourists deal with that? Crash course in tereomoari as going through Customs?
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:49pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    should read ‘crash coarse’
    
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    May 6, 2022 2:50pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Our Dear PM is going to remove coal boilers from schools.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/128564763/prime-minister-announces-coal-boilers-to-be-removed-from-schools-by-2025

I wonder if that will have kids flocking back to the classroom.

“Worse still, 40 per cent of children are not even going to school regularly, while the number chronically absent students from school has surged by 50 per cent under Labour. That’s not just a social failure – it’s a future economic crisis.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2205/S00053/literacy-and-numeracy-are-still-declining.htm
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May 6, 2022 1:42pm
- Nickc2
  
  Are these schools being adequately heated now? Obviously yes, or teachers would be on strike and there’d be a national call for it to be done.
  What’s she going to replace Coal-Fired Boilers with? If it’s electricity, how much is that going to cost and what effect will that have on electricity production and distribution whilst trying to electrify the country for those effin EVs?
  Can we afford it? Obviously not, we’re up to our eyeballs in debt FFS! So why do it?
  Virtue signaling of course!
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:01pm
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Look on EECA’s website and you will probably find out. Electric and wood pellet burners depending on where the school is and existing infrastructure constraints I understand
    
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    May 6, 2022 6:55pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Can’t burn wood (no trees to be felled, guess they will import wood pellets/chips) Heat pump in every classroom. Which manufacturer will get the kickback?
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:54pm
cmm

I see the Herald is running an article on how the health system ignores the needs of female patients.

Quite right. About time someone spoke out about it.

When I was in hospital in 2020, I noticed the nursing staff always gravitated to the male patients for the merest of whims, while female patients were being ignored.

On one occasion, typical of what happened every day, in the bed next to me, a woman’s drip stand had fallen over. She was frantically pressing her button for 15 minutes before someone helped her. During that 15 minutes, three nurses came to fluff up my pillow and check there was still ice in my water even though I had not asked for help – completely ignoring the female patient except to yell at her for disturbing the nice male patients.

Of course that is bullshit. It never happened.

How can they really say female patients needs are ignored when there are Women’s Hospitals that cater to special female needs?

Just more divisive identity politics crap from Herald.
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May 6, 2022 1:59pm
- MCōs
  
  My daughter went to Auckland Women’s Hospital in 2017 to give birth to her daughter.
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:26pm
  - cmm
    
    You must be making that up.
    Women’s needs are not met. She really gave birth in the back of an Uber.
    
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    May 6, 2022 7:33pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Women are far & away the bigger users of the health system if your average GP’s waiting room is anything to go by
  
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  May 6, 2022 8:12pm
Maggie Pie

$TUFFED TRENDING

Britomart to be given new name….’Te Wai Horotiu’

Mayor Phil Goof said, “It will tell us, as Aucklanders, about what once happened on these sites and how they once looked.
For visitors, it will make their experience in Tamaki Makarau memorable”

How much more of this shite are Ratepayers expected to put up with?

SHEESH!!

Please God……Wayne Brown for Mayor
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May 6, 2022 2:20pm
- graham
  
  “For visitors, it will make their experience in Tamaki Makarau memorable”
  
  Only when they ask someone how to find “Te Wai Horotiu” and get a confused stare in return …
  
  “Sorry mate, never heard of that. What on earth is it, an exhibition or something?”
  “Um … it’s the train station.”
  “OHH! You mean Britomart …”
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:28pm
- H. Upmann
  
  You usually are fully up with the play on most things Maggie and you call the shots well out from whenever the time of reckoning is. But Wayne Brown……..?
  Come on now girl, You are 100% right on the rest of it.
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:30pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    My partner’s had a few dealings with WB….said he’s a real ‘hard b*stard’ business-wise.
    Reckoned he’s just what Auckland needs to sort all this woke crap out.
    
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    May 6, 2022 3:35pm
- MCōs
  
  I thought you were in Leo Molloy‘s pocket?
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:31pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Wouldn’t have put it quite like that Cossie….
    but he’s closing ‘Headquarters’ at the end of the month. Where else am I going to get free drinks?
    
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    May 6, 2022 3:45pm
cmm

More bloody lies from Stuff: “24 further deaths”.

They’ve been recycling the reporting of those 24 deaths since the beginning of the week. They are not “further deaths”.

“The 24 deaths reported on Friday – 12 of whom died over the past three days, and a further 12 who died since April 6 ”

So they’ve really been recycling the same deaths for the last month to keep the fear factor going. This is disingenuous. This is destructive. It is fraudulent.

The fear mongering is ridiculous. 24 deaths in a month, almost all are WITH – not FROM – CV19. Likely less than 5 are FROM CV19. That is not a health concern.

Meantime during that period there have been far worse health issues to count.

Take just obesity. During the same month:
* 24 people died WITH CV19, over 900 died WITH obesity.
* Less than 5 died FROM CV19, over 250 died FROM obesity.

So CV19 is around 2% as serious as being obese!

The Herald is running the same trash.

I urge people to stop supporting these destructive people:
* If you have a Herald subscription, cancel it.
* If you visit their websites, install an ad blocker.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300581830/covid19-7347-new-community-cases-24-further-deaths-reported
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- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It’s that common core math that they love – with the odd roving decimal point
  
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  May 6, 2022 2:57pm
Maggie Pie

Did you know the ‘morning after’ pill costs $50 bucks from the chemist….and you may need two depending on your weight?
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May 6, 2022 2:57pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  You mean painkillers for dealing all that weight?
  
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  May 6, 2022 3:20pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    One of the girls from tennis call them…. ‘post-sex-smarties
    
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    May 6, 2022 3:51pm
    - cmm
      
      The real smarties don’t get knocked up in the first place.
      
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      May 6, 2022 7:34pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Mainly the brown ones 😀
        
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        May 6, 2022 10:11pm
- MCōs
  
  One imagine the gentleman involved will settle the account with chemist.
  Alternatively if he’s no longer interested in the consequences of his actions.
  If the woman chooses she can see her GP and add it to whatever other ailments are troubling her & get a prescription.
  Our clinic is $19 plus $5 at the chemist.
  
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  May 6, 2022 4:18pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You could get a 20pk of Durex-Intense for less than that Cossie.
    Might even be less if you flash your CSC ?
    
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    May 6, 2022 5:19pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Old yes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UoQ87O21Rw
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May 6, 2022 5:41pm
alloytoo

anybody else being spammed by [email protected]?

Kia ora ,

We would like to warmly invite you to the Coordinators Event event on Saturday 7th May at the Velodrome Manukau from 9am – 3:00pm Get your 1st and 2nd vaccination or your booster. Vaccination is now available for children ages 5-11 year olds Call 0800 21 12 21 for more information.

You can get a free flu vaccination at the same time if you meet eligibility criteria – talk to our staff on site to find out more.

If you’re currently isolating in your home, keep isolating, and don’t worry, we’ll see you another time soon. For those who have had COVID-19, you’ll need to wait 3 months before coming to be vaccinated.

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May 6, 2022 6:54pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh Grief…

Dr Michael Baker reckons NZ might be OVERCOUNTING its Covid Deaths!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/05/new-zealand-may-be-overcounting-covid-19-deaths-as-the-world-undercounts-them-michael-baker.html
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May 6, 2022 7:06pm
- cmm
  
  Baker’s a flu man through and through. He doesn’t like the fact that CV19 has taken the limelight off his darling.
  
  Baker’s the guy that told us in 2019 that a a third of all deaths in NZ are down to flu (10,000 a year) and a quarter of all NZers get flu every year.
  
  If you counted flu the way they count CV19 he’d probably be right.
  
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  May 6, 2022 7:37pm

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