About
Contact
Advertise

Facebook
Twitter

June 4, 2022 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 04 June 2022

Like this:

Like Loading…

Email
Facebook
Twitter
Comment188

Uncategorized
General Debate

Comments (188)

Login to comment or vote

mikenmildagain

Eightieth anniversary today of the Battle of Midway, where the US navy’s destruction of the Japanese carrier fleet ended Japan’s ability to make major naval attacks in the Pacific.
43 8
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 8:02am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  That was when Japan lost the war.
  
  By 1944 the US had 100 carriers in the pacific.
  
  Mainly Woolworth carriers, a merchant hull with a flat top. The new Fleet carriers were still being built, the Essex and Midway classes.
  
  7 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:40am
- Thought Criminal
  
  Today is the anniversary Tiananmen Square massacre.
  
  Never forget the brave people who stood up to the Chinese Communist Party and gave their lives for freedom.
  
  51 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:34am
  - Lee C
    
    Amen.
    
    What a pity many can’t consider this with a clear conscience in NZ.
    
    11 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 1:10pm
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      It’s a fair bet that there are many self-righteous New Zealanders who would unironically identify themselves as a would-be “tank man” – if ever they were placed in a similar political position, unlikely though such a position would be – while at the same time tweeting about the “selfish unvaxxed,” the “rivers of filth” on the grounds of Parliament and the “threat to democracy” they and others like them represent. All while remaining clueless, safe in the knowledge that, after all, that was in China in 1989, and this is New Zealand in 2022.
      
      3 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 3:23pm
      - Bluegrass
        
        The phrase ‘slowly being boiled to death’ springs to mind, re the current zeitgeist.
        
        0 1
        Report
        June 4, 2022 10:53pm
- Tom Hunter
  
  And in honour of the Battle of Midway I’ve done a review of the 2019 movie version, Midway, which is a great movie:
  
  In fact the non-PC quality of the movie slaps you in the face right from the start when it does a pre-credits opening in Tokyo with a British Admiral, annoyed at the “bloody ridiculous” Japanese custom of catching ducks with nets, telling his American counterpart, Intelligence Officer Edwin T. Layton, that he won’t miss Japan and that “The next time I see the little buggers I hope it’ll be over the sights of a 14 inch gun”.
  
  11 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 12:17pm
Greenheart

What a disgusting cartoon in Stuff. Tom Scot and the rabble at Stuff should be ashamed
52 6
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 8:04am
- pdm
  
  Tom Scott won’t be – ever.
  
  28 3
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:26am
- Swifty
  
  Not one of his best efforts.
  
  But have you seen how his drawing has declined. Some of his relatively recent cartoons I wouldn’t even pick as his. And this is after decades of instantly recognising his work.
  
  9 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:34am
- Philview
  
  I just went and had a look. I would call it hate speech. Tom Scott is putting words into the mouth of the Queen put it is actually people he would like to see killed.
  
  12 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:49am
- Philview
  
  Sorry down ticked you by mistake.
  
  3 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:50am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Are you referring to his cartoon of Betty Windsor’s (probable) private thoughts?
  
  3 44
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:01am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Don’t judge us by your standards
    
    31 3
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:07am
- Gravelroad
  
  It is the role of the Tom Scott’s of this world to mock and trivialise the work and lives of well respected high achievers and leaders.
  Especially those who do not align themselves with leftist mantras.
  What has Tom Scott ever achieved that could compare to the contribution to world history made by Queen Elizabeth 11?
  
  47 3
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:06am
  - gump
    
    Queen Elizabeth II was literally born into her job. It wasn’t earned by merit or ability.
    
    Which is why I prefer this cartoon. It captures the true spirit of the day.
    
    https://ibb.co/wWM3VYc
    
    0 11
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:46am
    - cjn
      
      She has done her job every day for 70 years. That deserves respect and she is receiving it. Every day she has received a red box to go over with her secretaries. Every day she has got dressed up to receive the credentials of ambassadors to the Court of St James, to open a new road, underground or building. Every day she has had to shake hands, smile, and be the living symbol of the nation. Don’t knock it.
      
      8 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 5:40pm
      - gump
        
        >“That deserves respect and she is receiving it.”
        
        Not from me. The Queen is a parasitical leech and deserves neither respect or recognition. I wait for the day that the entirety of her disgusting family is dumped in the bin where it belongs.
        
        0 6
        Report
        June 4, 2022 8:36pm
- kowtow
  
  “A good newspaper, I suppose, is a nation talking to itself.”
  
  Arthur Miller.
  
  Today the legacy media is largely just a bunch of pinko wankers scanning social media and doing their best to tear everything down in a neo Cultural Revolution.
  
  10 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:08am
- David Garrett
  
  Green: Well, at least he can draw, and it’s clear what the cartoon is saying…neither can be said of that Sharon woman who can neither draw nor say anything coherent.
  
  25 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:27am
- Thought Criminal
  
  Why are you even wasting the click?
  
  11 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:35am
- Rich Prick
  
  Cartoons have become an expression of personal feelings. That, or some kind of expression therapy. They certainly aren’t funny anymore.
  
  20 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:41am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Please elaborate? Or is it the one i seen in the ODT yesterday with a sad tiers looking queen with a heavy crown weighing her down?
  
  3 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 12:18pm
- Jim
  
  Low rent artistic talent and humour.
  
  1 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 4:44pm
ClanMcleod

– Natural immunity outperforms vaccinated AND vaccinated and recovered –

It is now clear as per a study published in the NEJM:

“those who were unvaxxed and recovered had far better immunity than the vaccinated.”

Worth reading in full.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/natural-immunity-outperforms-vaccinated?s=r
46 7
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 8:15am
- virtualmark
  
  Have you read the original paper published in the NEJM?
  
  If so, did you miss this bit … “one recent study showed that messenger RNA (mRNA)–based vaccines confer a level of protection against hospitalization that is five times as high as that provided by previous infection.”?
  
  It appears this Israeli research shows that vaccines are more effective at stopping serious cases, but that the immunity provided by a vaccine wanes faster than that from an infection. I don’t find that at all surprising. The dose of “Covid” in a vaccine is way way smaller than you receive in an infection, so the kick your immune system receives is a lot less. Intentionally. That’s how vaccines are designed to work.
  
  I’d also point out that this Israeli study doesn’t normalise for age. So they must be assuming that the demographics of the 3 groups they considered are consistent. But the immune system weakens fast in people older than 60, and with vaccination programmes prioritising and targeting the elderly I think that’s a big call, and a flaw in the study.
  
  1 4
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 8:31am
  - NK
    
    It’s not a vaccine; it’s a prophylactic.
    
    7 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 3:39pm
    - virtualmark
      
      It’s a vaccine.
      
      The problem is with our immune systems. Our immune systems are unable to hold a long-term response to coronaviruses … which is why we all keep getting the common cold over and over again.
      
      You need to remember that we don’t really have *any* vaccines that confer permanent life-long immunity. All of their protections wane over time – our immune systems “forget” the lesson the vaccine gave them. With some viruses, say measles, the immune system remembers the lesson quite well and the protection wanes slowly. Other viruses, like coronaviruses, the immune system forgets the lesson quite quickly.
      
      And if you can figure out why that is you’d likely get a Nobel Prize in Medicine.
      
      3 3
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 4:38pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Spin it any way you like, the non sterilising “vaccines” do not do what they were supposed to do, they certainly don’t do what Ardern and co still claim they do, the evidence is piling up now that the more vaccinated you are the more chance of getting covid. Natural immunity is stronger and longer lasting than that given by the jab. The jab appears to give some short term protection at the expense of damaging the innate immune system.
    
    What part of all this worrying information would make you even attempt to defend this product and the people who inflicted it on us?
    
    0 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 5, 2022 8:08am
- mandk
  
  The vaxx: Unsafe and ineffective
  
  13 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 8:33am
- artemisia
  
  A huge amount of data has been and is being reported. Good or bad, relevant or not, as usual. Some sources are more trustworthy than others, as ever, and Britain’s Office of National Statistics would be one, though carefully not drawing certain inferences.
  
  I’m sure our ever vigilant MSM is checking out equivalent data here to keep the populace well informed.
  
  England and Wales have had 45,950 deaths in the most recent four weeks (through May 20), compared to the five-year average of 39,716, according to Britain’s Office of National Statistics. That’s more than 6,000 extra deaths, a 16 percent increase.
  
  alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-death-rates-are-soaring-again?s=r
  
  11 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 8:49am
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    The data demonstrates that, at an absolute maximum, vaccines only lessen symptoms, and do not at all prevent infection. Even this is a tenuous claim: whether one has lesser/greater symptoms would seem to be a subjective determination, in the same way that the “symptoms” of drinking a bottle of wine will differ between each person who consumes a standardised dose. Just as, in this analogy, each person drinks a qualitatively identical bottle, so too do infected people have a qualitatively identical viral infection. Yet in both scenarios, subjectively-experienced symptoms will vary from one person to another. The fact of infection is objective, while the nature of symptoms is subjective. Thus, “lessened symptoms” is not a scientific proposition, because it depends on the reports of a subject.
    
    Moreover, it would also seem to be an untestable proposition to claim that “person x had lesser symptoms because they were vaccinated” (i.e. lesser than if they were unvaccinated) because the control needed to provide the relevant comparison of person x’s symptoms pre-vaccination versus post vaccination would require a counterfactual wherein the same individual (person x) was infected whilst unvaccinated. The serial nature of events in time, and time’s intrinsic irreversibility, prevents any such comparison.
    
    However, at bottom, the data is actually fairly irrelevant: it is a breach of fundamental human rights to coerce a medical procedure, and a breach of civil rights to be punished for your choice, especially given the fact that one’s vaccination status is only relevant to oneself, despite the slogans that it is relevant to others. The vaccines could be 100% effective and have zero side effects, but the fundamental rights implications would remain.
    
    7 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 3:51pm
- surfing
  
  Clan the Cherry picker general who only reads titles is in the house.
  
  Here is some more detail in your link….
  messenger RNA (mRNA)–based vaccines confer a level of protection against hospitalization that is five times as high as that provided by previous in- fection
  
  This is funny though, anti vaxxers almost always get tripped up because they can’t read their own links.
  
  3 13
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:06am
  - Hebe123
    
    Who’s talking about hospitalisations? I don’t think Clan was.
    
    If you recall vaccines are meant to protect you against catching an illness. Even NZ data on RNZ shows that is far from the case.
    
    5 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 6:02pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Cheers, I wasn’t going to respond to the inane comment from Surfing. It’s a common thing.
      
      1 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 5, 2022 8:01am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Surfing, as usual you didn’t pay attention. The point is these “vaccines” not only do not stop anyone catching or spreading the virus, they make it worse. They don’t work. They were never going to work. A very large percentage of the population of NZ have been conned and/or coerced into taking part in probably the biggest medical scandal and fraud in history. We were lied to by our “experts” and politicians.
    As a result they have destroyed the economy, severly damaged the wellbeing and mental health of many, particularly a generation of kids, they have shredded the social fabric and they have done so for NO gain. As time passes it looks increasingly certain that longer term it is causing huge damage.
    
    “this policy has been a disaster. these vaccines appear to have, at one point, been somewhat useful at reducing severity, but they have never really suppressed spread and rapidly flipped to accelerate it. they now appear to be falling apart on severity, possibly worsening it especially in those with poor general immune response such as the old, driving antigenic fixation, and preventing development of functional herd immunity/resistance.
    
    the likelihood that they are doing far more harm than good appears quite high especially given the high side effect profiles and the lack of any evidence of reduction in all cause mortality even from the studies on which they were approved. (and those studies look increasingly dodgy and possibly outright fraudulent)”
    
    More and more data is showing increases in all cause mortality everywhere that is highly “vaccinated”. We know “correlation is not causation” but the numbers are there and they don’t lie.
    You use whichever confirmation bias you need to tell yourself that you made the right choice, that the “vaccines” work and that Ardern is a good leader. Nothing you say or do will make any of those statements true.
    
    0 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 5, 2022 8:29am
- Littletramp
  
  The problem we now face is that politicians have all spent so much political capital selling “the vaccines will save us” message when the reality is the vaccines are now the problem as they screw up natural immune function & masks do nothing as we knew all along, that they are prepared to destroy the country rather than admit they were wrong.
  Gonna be expensive for us all to get through this.
  
  15 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:42am
Master Mariner

An interesting piece on Electricity prices in Aus.

“The Labor government yesterday ruled out triggering an emergency mechanism to restrict gas exports, a mechanism many say would help ease household prices. In any case, we propose three additional ways it can start to ease the pressure on prices.”

https://theconversation.com/australias-energy-crisis-3-ways-the-albanese-government-can-ease-pressure-on-your-power-bills-184134
And,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ95x9hKPVQ

And what has NZ done to “Future Proof” energy in the future ? Ban oil and Gas.
Even worse, They have “strong armed” Gas from companies who had the foresight to secure forward contracts for Gas for Power Generation.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/443556/genesis-signs-deal-with-methanex-for-natural-gas-supply
“It said Methanex had shown flexibility in respect of its own business to make the gas available.” Hymm ok !

“Methanex will temporarily idle one of its Motunui facilities for close to three months and release gas to support the New Zealand electricity sector.”
And the result,
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/439680/75-jobs-to-go-as-taranaki-methanol-producer-methanex-plans-to-close-plant

So I wonder what the deal was to secure Gas for electricity generation from a highly profitable business?

Thoughts?
7 0
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 8:26am
Albert_Ross

What about those who were unvaxxed and didn’t recover, how is their immunity doing?
3 7
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 8:32am
Maggy Wassilieff

Max Rashbrooke seems to have a mote in his eye.

He rightfully identifies the failure of Ardern and her Government,

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/128851366/arderns-govt-has-failed-to-deliver-meaningful-gains-in-growing-trust

But fails to see that the initial Parliamentary Protesters just wanted to be part of the “debate and dialogue” process….or in Rashbrooke’s words, ” to become involved in shaping the political decisions that affect them.”
46 3
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:05am
- Swifty
  
  Max is frequently confused.
  
  Not only have Labour failed to deliver meaningful gains in trust they’ve actively promoted division, mistrust and suspicion by NZers of their representatives.
  
  Hidden agendas, frequent surprise legislation, ramming monumental changes through under urgency, using Covid funds for totally unrelated matters to win political support, wasteful spending, gross abuses of their obligations under the OIA, praising the moves to racial discrimination and the creation of an ethnostate, funding private media companies with political strings attached, smashing personal freedoms and shovelling money to their union mates with the FPAs – the list just goes on and on.
  
  Easily the most divisive and dangerous government in my lifetime.
  
  Max lives in a dreamland.
  
  14 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:19am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  I’m not sure that there is ever much point in politicians attempting ‘debate and dialogue’ with a miscellaneous rabble led up to parliament by the Mongrel Mob, even had said rabble had a coherent message to debate.
  
  5 53
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:04am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    That is a lie, even by your very low standards it is a disgusting accusation.
    You really are a pathetic and petty person.
    
    43 5
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:07am
    - NK
      
      Well said Clan, mike just shows how little he cares about those less fortunate than himself.
      
      30 3
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 10:13am
    - Observer of Life
      
      Clan: It goes to show he never made the effort to visit the Protest Village and engage with the people. He’s just following his leader(s).
      
      10 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 11:08am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    You mean coherent like this is: “had said rabble had”?
    
    18 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:09am
    - Bluegrass
      
      If you translate it into Latin – which often helps with English grammar – it should have been ‘had said rabble had had…’
      
      0 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 11:00pm
  - gravedodger
    
    Any doubts you are infected with the jaxinda virus are henceforth demonstrably demolished.
    As if there was any residual belief it was fake news?
    
    6 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:23am
  - John Pakes
    
    Spot on milenmildagain, There was never no identifiable leader or leaders to have a dialogue with.
    The only ‘leaders ‘ that turned up were two weasel politicians, David and Winston.
    
    3 20
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:23am
    - Observer of Life
      
      Why were they “weasels “?
      
      2 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 4:49pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      JP – Your powers of observation are astonishing.
      
      “There was never no identifiable leader or leaders to have a dialogue with.”
      
      It’s good to see you clearly pointing out what a cowardly, spineless, worthless Prime Minister Ardern is with her refusal to have a dialogue.
      
      And what does “never no” actually mean? It makes no sense in the English language.
      
      0 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 5, 2022 8:35am
  - Frank Hematuria
    
    You are wrong again Mike. I was at Parliament when the first of the convoy was arriving and for several hours after that. The only thing even close to the Mongrel Mob that I saw was two large chaps on noisy motorcycles, with not a patch to be seen. At that time the message was quite clear, opposition to and bad personal experiences from the vaccine mandates, via Government coercion. Had you listened to the speakers over the first few hours and mingled with the crowd you would have heard that for yourself. That was the time that some politicians could have shown some respect for the protestors – it was the continued disdain and refusal to listen to the reasons for the demonstration that led, in some measure at least, to others joining the protest who had different complaints and lower levels of tolerance for the arrogance of the politicians.
    
    18 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:59am
  - blue collar
    
    Hah ! I Knew all those upticks unsettled you Mikey boy …. Come out with a howler to get your daily dose of rejection … your self flagellation must be very cathartic , well done
    
    13 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 11:08am
  - KKKKatee
    
    My daughter was there. She’s far from rabble. She is a PhD student.
    
    20 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 11:24am
    - glowworm
      
      I was part of the “rabble”. I have a PhD in Engineering. I met many other well educated and very talented people there, including a doctor and others in the health system.
      
      17 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 2:59pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    As opposed to brave intellectual legends such as yourself Milky? 🤔😝😂
    
    14 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 12:25pm
  - I remember when
    
    “even had said rabble had a coherent message to date.”
    Sadly we will never know.
    
    8 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 2:23pm
Maggie Pie

My partner’s mum retweets…

“I love New Zealand. I’m ashamed of our Government”

(Worth noting she’s already had over 2k likes since 8am)
69 5
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:09am
- ClanMcleod
  
  That should be a tee shirt. I’d wear one.
  
  31 3
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:34am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  To get 2000+ likes in the space of 60 minutes to a tweet suggests that there is a big undercurrent of dislike in our community. Somehow I feel the professional pollsters are missing that ugly “feel”.
  
  56 3
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:36am
  - Bridgenag
    
    A white hate in my case
    
    7 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:00am
    - Bridgenag
      
      white hot hate
      
      7 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 12:01pm
  - Wayne Mapp
    
    Pollsters don’t measure the depth of support, they measure the level of support.
    From what I know from friends, etc the PM was moderately tolerated a while ago, but now many are highly antagonistic toward her and Labour. It is depth of dislike that has changed. Of course the level of support has also fallen with Labour going from over 50% support to somewhere in the 30s.
    So you can assume the polls are reasonably accurate, but those who want a change now feel more strongly about that than they did 12 months ago.
    
    48 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:29am
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      You sound positively revved-up and ready to overturn the entrenched ideological order today, at least in comparison to your typical “go along to get along” disposition.
      
      10 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 11:23am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Don’t forget the polls showing Nats far more capable of fixing the economic treason Created by these fools. It was slaw going to turn, who ever has been advising Luxon has done a great job, because he changed when he knew Labour were starting to struggle, it all started a few days after Key suggested the country had to open and we are a smug hermit kingdom, I suggest the knifing of Judith may actually had been an organised falling on the sword, I think Judith knew she was done. As they say and that you know, timing is everything in politics
      
      7 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 12:29pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, you only have to listen in the pub when people start, the outrage is widespread, 75 yearold life time Labour voters with links to the unions saying they will either not vote or maybe vote ACT says it all
    
    12 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 12:22pm
- KKKKatee
  
  Me too.
  
  9 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 11:24am
pdm

I see over at the BFD that the Maori Party want a `Maori’ Bank where there will be no security requiredfor people of Maori Descent wanting to borrow.

In my banking days many years ago (I left the industry in 1982) I worked in an East Coast Branch under a Manager whose mantra for any lending to anyone of any race or creed was:

GET THE SECURITY FIRST.

And a severe ear chwewing eventuated if you didn’t.

Maori Land was the most difficult to take security over because the many owners of even an acre of land were spread far and wide and if only one refused to sign – the project was buggered.
57 1
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:10am
- igm
  
  Today a quick credit check (Baycorp) and most are out the door. Collections, defaults, securities at risk . . . it goes on and on!
  
  9 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:15am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  You need to understand that capitalism has failed Maori, but cash makes fine koha
  
  9 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:21am
- Swifty
  
  The GFC was caused by this very thing.
  
  Another monumentally stupid utterance from Waititi. However, if Iwi wish to risk their money in this way that’s entirely a matter for them.
  
  12 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:31am
- 7kiwi11
  
  AKA = we would like a Maori only bank but would like someone else to pay for setting it up and pay for it when it financially fails.
  
  12 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:31am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Dept of Maori Affairs used to lend to Maori pdm. And having reviewed many of the loans before Affairs went to “Iwi Transition Agencies”, there weren’t too many that were being repaid. Some dated back to the 60’s and had interest rates less than 1% (closer to 0 than 1). Many from that decade had only made the first couple of payments, then stopped! And if you had pretty much any Maori in you, you could get a loan. Doctors, Lawyers, Accountants, the lot, and very cheap rates. It was a fucking debacle. We were told to let it go. None of the debt was being chased then, and I doubt any of the debt was chased later.
  
  13 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:38am
  - artemisia
    
    IVV, I worked there and mortgage arrears was my day job. When I started 80% of the loans were in arrears, and there were some serious issues with staff fingers in tills. New boss, me and hard work – in 2 years down to 40%. Stood me in good stead for similar job in Housing Corp.
    
    7 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 7:45pm
- jgw739
  
  Nothing wrong with a Maori bank.
  Tahoe, Waikato, Ngai Tahu, etc could set it up using settlement money already given.
  
  They could even send the Mongrel Mob around as debt collectors when the debt wasn’t repaid on time.
  
  Great idea Rawiri //
  
  15 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:50am
- Thought Criminal
  
  What is the problem here? The taxpayer has plenty more money.
  
  17 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:38am
  - pdm
    
    TC – The taxpayer has plenty more BORROWED money.
    
    Fixed it.
    
    19 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 11:01am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Not sure that’s how banking works, I think the Māori think it’s free money by tax payers
    
    10 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 12:32pm
- Nickc2
  
  Those who choose to be Maori want something for nothing? Remind me where I’ve heard that before.
  
  6 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:38am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They are welcome to start their own bank on those lines, good luck getting people to invest
  
  12 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 12:31pm
- virtualmark
  
  And I want a unicorn in my back yard that pees craft beer. But just because I want something doesn’t mean that it’s going to happen.
  
  You guys are easily triggered by people like the Maori Party. It’s far better for your mental health to just roll your eyes at the delusional, rather than get wound up by their ranting.
  
  10 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 1:41pm
  - Swifty
    
    Don’t spoil our fun.
    
    5 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 3:54pm
iMP

STUFF can’t spell. This Depp story continually says Johnny is about to “weave” Amber’s damages. “Weave” ???!! Even in the headline. As a teacher I despair the decline of literacy in Nz. A science student did a poster project on Albert Einstine.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/420449-johnny-depp-to-weave-amber-heards-damages
11 2
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:11am
- Jim
  
  I wouldn’t be surprised if it was:
  Johnny Depp 2 weave Amber Heard’s damages?
  
  1 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 4:57pm
jgw739

Ministry of Hellth says there were only a smidgen over 1000 doses given yesterday, 43 of which were the 1st shot.

The popup testing/vaccinating centres in my town have no customers so the staff have a pretty cruisy gig.

Haven’t figured out why they need multiple Rangers but I guess when someone else is paying, who cares ay?
12 0
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:22am
kowtow

Anniversary of Tiananmen Square massacre.
7 1
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:27am
Maggy Wassilieff

The Chinese Ambassador to NZ provides more information to journalists than our Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta did when she was queried about their joint meeting.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/06/chinese-ambassador-says-nz-us-statement-raised-in-nanaia-mahuta-meeting-after-minister-skirts-around-questions.html

Does this indicate that:
1. Minister Mahuta can’t remember what they spoke about
or
2. The Chinese Ambassador is more open than our Government minister?

What was the point of Mahuta’s relunctance to affirm that she and the Ambassador had discussed the NZ-USA joint declaration?
43 2
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:31am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Prob talked about the TOW.
  That is all she is interested in.
  
  24 5
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:38am
  - Nickc2
    
    Which version of it, the original or the woke?
    
    8 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 9:42am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Her version, the Mahuta Dynasty version. This is just the beginning of it.
      Ever watched Dallas, and J R Ewing?
      
      5 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 6:06pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    “We” were here first, we’re stronger and smarter than you lot, and “your” ancestors shafted ours so I’m pulling a stealth coup for “my people” appears to be the main game by all appearances. Hard to draw any other conclusions from the comms coming (or not) from this person.
    
    9 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 12:31pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  I see Maggy’s hatred of the labour party is so entrenched that she prefers the view of the Beijing dictatorship instead.
  
  3 53
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:06am
  - NK
    
    I do because it doesn’t pretend to be anything else. This government does, but we are still led by a dictator.
    
    28 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:17am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      Hmm, a dictator who has to subject themselves to free and fair elections every three years. Is she more dictatorial than Clark or Key both of whom dominated their parties?
      
      7 29
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 10:32am
      - Frank Hematuria
        
        You miss the point Wayne. It is us she’s dominating, not her party. In fact she doesn’t even do that, the Maori caucus does.
        
        9 1
        Report
        June 4, 2022 10:48am
      - pdm
        
        She is far less capable of doing what is best for New Zealand than Key and even Clark who had a rough idea what she was doing.
        
        I am convinced Jacinda has no idea of the damage she and her cohorts are doing to the country and doesn’t really care because her focus is on how she is viewed internationally.
        
        33 2
        Report
        June 4, 2022 11:09am
      - NK
        
        Not a dictator in form, but certainly in substance. Geez Wayne, anybody would think you’d want to marry her. She stood up at the World Youth Socialist forum and welcomed the Comrades about 27 times. She has MPs who have expressly said, in Parliament, they are proud socialists. She’s a communist, without question, and moreover she leads a government that holds firm on communist ideals. You may idolise her, I despise her.
        
        25 2
        Report
        June 4, 2022 11:41am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        The Māori caucus will have news for her soon
        
        9 1
        Report
        June 4, 2022 12:34pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Socialism. Communism.
        
        You keep using those words, I do not think it means what you think it means.
        
        Socialism is not “anything I don’t like”. Neither is communism.
        
        Socialism = state ownership of the means of production. Private ownership of anything larger than a car doesn’t really exist. All large businesses and resources are held by the government. The state nationalises all enterprises, and directs the economy as the major owner of all businesses and resources. Everyone works for the government.
        
        Socialism != taxes, a welfare state, Government participation in the economy, even via Government ownership of some businesses. If the government does something large on behalf of the whole society (like our public health system for example) that isn’t socialism.
        
        As for communism … if you’ve read your Marx and Engels, particularly The Communist Manifesto, then you would know that communism is the theoretical thing that replaces socialism. No one really knows what that looks like because it’s never existed. But it is also not “anything you don’t like”. Nor is it “anything to the left of Attila the Hun”.
        
        4 3
        Report
        June 4, 2022 12:46pm
      - [email protected]
        
        It’s far from “fair” when the government of the day is the media’s paymaster.
        
        8 1
        Report
        June 4, 2022 1:05pm
      - Hebe123
        
        So virtualmark….does socialism, historically, appear overnight or is it a process.
        
        What are the hallmarks of such a process?
        
        Yeah we are well on the way, property rights will no longer exist in the near future when 3 waters is rammed through, creating a dangerous precedent.
        
        5 0
        Report
        June 4, 2022 6:12pm
      - virtualmark
        
        hebe,
        
        You mean when the water assets pass from one form of public ownership to a different form of public ownership?
        
        Or do you think you’re free to go out tomorrow and sell your share of the water assets?
        
        If you think you can then I have a beachfront property in Taihape you might be interested in.
        
        0 0
        Report
        June 5, 2022 10:13am
      - Hebe123
        
        Virtualmark – no I can’t go sell the water assets or extort a return on them. But as drafted the Iwi certainly can.
        
        Maybe get informed aye?
        
        0 0
        Report
        June 7, 2022 4:24pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Instead of trying a slimy hit job on me once again, mma, how about offering an explanation as to why Naniaia Mahuta failed to be open and transparent about her meeting with the Chinese Ambassador.
    
    40 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:51am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Don’t worry Maggy, the milky maid is showing his hatred to others opinions as Robertson is showing his hatred to Luxon with his childish holding the opposition to account. The closer to the election the hatred of the filthy left will get louder
      
      15 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 12:40pm
    - Paulus
      
      Perhaps she forgot about the meeting as the Ambassador did not greet her in Maori or a nose bang !
      
      9 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 1:20pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Another bizzaro/straw man conclusion Milky. I suggest read up and understand the list of logical fallacies.
    
    6 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 12:34pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Oh I think you will find maggot’s hatred to the Labour Party is widespread, just look at the change in support in the Tauranga poll this morning, that’s with a popular candidate, and Nats having a new boy as opposed to what Bridges being well known in the next election would have been
    
    8 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 12:37pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Oh I think you will find maggot’s hatred to the Labour Party
      
      I haven’t been called maggots since my High School days ..
      
      Trouble was… My bestie was also named Margaret….
      and we sat together in most classes for 5 years…
      So, there was maggots1 and maggots2…and we never really figured out who was which.
      
      I imagine Teachers would now be referred to their Disciplinary Board if it was known that they called sensitive young females Maggots
      
      12 0
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 2:57pm
      - Hebe123
        
        Ouch. I think G makes enough typos that you might forgive this one 🤪
        
        2 0
        Report
        June 4, 2022 6:13pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        No worries..
        
        3 0
        Report
        June 4, 2022 9:50pm
- nathie
  
  From the article the Labour Party, the instigator and promoter of the so-called “independent foreign policy” ~~propaganda~~ phrase (which was gleefully parroted by the MSM during and since the ANZUS bustup), has been hoisted by its own petard as now the CCP is stating that NZ “must adhere” it’s own “independent foreign policy” stance.
  
  Thanks for nothing Helen Clark & Labour, another of your hare-brained propaganda schemes (like NZ being in a “benign strategic environment”) is shown up for the BS that it is!
  
  9 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 11:01am
- KKKKatee
  
  Mahuta isn’t doing the job. I’d suggest the Chinese Ambassador is doing his.
  
  10 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 11:26am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Nope, it’s more a pointer to Labours smug hermit kingdom, and keeping the dummies in the dark, they think we are mushrooms you know, kept in the dark, and fed shit all day
  
  8 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 12:33pm
Gravelroad

“Queen Elizabeth II to skip service of Thanksgiving after feeling ‘discomfort’ during Platinum Jubilee”
$tuff headline.
“Skip”.
The Queen would not have been physically able to walk up the steps of the Cathedral and then along the length of the aisle inside – and back again.
And neither would many journalists when they are aged 96.
Try to stay classy, $tuff. Surely you can manage it for a couple of days over the Queen’s jubilee?
If not, skip off.
59 0
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:33am
- Nickc2
  
  Stuff = talentless low-life journo wannabees.
  
  11 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:46am
Maggy Wassilieff

Ringo Starr awarded Honorary Doctorate

https://www.kshe95.com/real-rock-news/ringo-starr-accepts-honorary-doctorate-from-berklee-college-of-music-via-virtual-speech-im-a-doctor-at-last/
24 1
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:37am
- mandk
  
  Congratulations Ringo.
  
  I wonder if he ever imagined he would end up as Dr Sir Richard Starkey.
  
  11 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:11am
blue collar

THOUGHT FOR THE DAY

Tane Mahuta … giant revered specimen

Nanaia Mahuta …. Giant reviled specimen
14 1
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:43am
Rusty

Ringo looks 10-15 years younger than he is.

Question for Beatle fans.

“How many members of the Beatles are still alive?”
8 1
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:44am
Warren

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/lotto-new-zealand-plans-a-third-weekly-draw-why-some-agencies-are-concerned/QN5SG5MTIBNYPYI63EKRC24NXE/
How will this help this gutless, useless Government and there Celebrity Prime Minister solve Child Poverty, homeless and inequality.
8 0
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:46am
ClanMcleod

The Whoreald goto hitman, David Fisher does a piece in the rag today on “long covid”.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/long-covid-and-acc-the-appallingly-low-number-of-compensation-claims-accepted/I7VKZMDAQ5AB6TBUC2HW3BMQ4I/

“Long covid” is going to become the “bad back” of the 90s and noughties. It’s going to cost the country dearly, financially and in productivity. It’s going to be a boon to the parasite lawyers chasing easy dollars in representing the inevitable malingerers and con artists.
As for “long covid”, it is far more likely to be vaccine adverse effects. It would be good if someone was to do the breakdown of the numbers of jabbed v unjabbed who believe they have “long covid”.
This nonsense is going to open up a massive can of worms. All diseases and illnesses and injuries have some form of “long” repercussion.

This is a good read on the topic.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-long-and-short-of-long-covid?s=r
31 7
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:47am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  ‘I don’t feel very well this next 3 months Boss’
  Then fuck off to the beach and go fishing in your boat!
  
  33 4
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 9:52am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Steve – exactly!!
    
    20 4
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:09am
  - Nickc2
    
    The Chinese cultured Covid-19 for a reason Steve. It’s an easy way to send the West broke and the cost of Western exports down.
    
    9 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:18am
- NK
  
  I know, right. I thought Fisher was about to expose victims of long covid from the Vax. I live in hope.
  
  16 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:19am
- freemark
  
  Covid is a hypochondriac’s dream, “long Covid” the icing on top.
  
  10 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 12:20pm
I remember when

So how is Sweden doing after two years of covid.
Figures from Worldometer show that Cases per Million are –
Sweden 245,539
New Zealand 236,931
heritage.org>index>country>
Shows Government’s respose to crisis ranked Sweden 155th in world among ranked countries in terms of stringency.
New Zealand was ranked 7th.
Interesting in Sweden in 2021 they recorded 91,958 deaths (Statista) and 5344 covid deaths on Worldometer.
Yet deaths were in line with the 2015-2018 totals of 90,982-92,185 although in 2019 deaths dipped to 88,766.
13 0
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:48am
- cjn
  
  Sweden will be better when they get into NATO. The Americans are there already my friends tell me. They’ll bring masks.
  
  1 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 6:06pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Funny old world…..

https://www.reuters.com/world/amid-criticism-north-korea-takes-over-un-disarmament-president-2022-06-02/
21 0
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:48am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Inventions:
The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives. Once beer was discovered it required grain, and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminium can were invented yet, so our early human ancestors just stayed close to the brewery. That’s how villages were formed. Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as “the Conservative movement”. Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ’s and doing the sewing, weaving and hair dressing. This was the beginning of “the Liberal movement.” Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as ‘girlymen’. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the trade union, class action lawsuits, the invention of group therapy &group hugs and the concept of democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

And they still live off the conservatives
37 3
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 9:53am
- gravedodger
  
  That little tale is up there with the “Ant and the Grasshopper”.
  Trouble is it would need intensive study and additional explanations for the Ijits to grasp the central themes of both of those legends.
  
  8 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:31am
- iMP
  
  Which evolved gender was responsible for inventing raspberry flavoured cocoa cola? I hope a sabretooth river got them as they walked to the bbq.
  
  11 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 10:39am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Apparently liberals don’t taste very good – quite sour
    
    11 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 10:43am
- Hebe123
  
  Please don’t suggest that women are parasites and bludgers, unnecessary and unfair. Thanks.
  
  5 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 1:03pm
Surely Knott

Nz herald lead story by David fisher. Why are there so few long covid cases covered by ACC??….
Why would a lingering flu be covered by acc. What is the accident here?
13 0
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 10:35am
- kevn
  
  @SK… Not a peep about the vaccine damaged folk.
  
  9 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 4:25pm
- fernglas
  
  That’s absolutely right. Catching an illness is not an accident in terms of the ACC legislation, other than in a couple of narrow circumstances where it is work-related. It’s a bit like asking why so few oranges are found in a vegetable salad.
  
  6 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 4:28pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Fisher is only doing what he’s been paid to do, give him a break.//
  
  0 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 5, 2022 8:38am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Jordan Williams, Taxpayer’s Union, in Christchurch.
Make the current Marxist Govt take notice. If not now, do it at the ballot box!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128859423/antiwater-reform-campaigners-call-on-ministers-to-rethink-attack-on-democracy?
18 1
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 10:41am
- MCōs
  
  There’s a contradiction there.
  If we had a Marxist government there would be no ballot boxes.
  
  3 11
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 11:54am
  - Don Beckett
    
    No, there would be ballot boxes with only 1 option. 😉
    
    13 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 12:05pm
    - kowtow
      
      Yep , that’s how we can gauge the level of support for any Kim on a N Korean ballot , usually around 99 % , amazing !
      
      8 1
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 12:45pm
    - MCōs
      
      Seeing as that’s obviously not the case we don’t have a Marxist government, by your own reasoning.
      
      3 5
      Log in to Reply
      Report
      June 4, 2022 1:48pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Sssssh, don’t speak too soon
    
    4 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 12:42pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

What is a Woman?
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbdqn4eFyBf/?
13 2
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 10:50am
blue collar

Carn black caps !!!
Hammer them poofy , limp wristed , cack handed , club footed , cardigan wearing , cream puff , bunch of English amateur clowns that couldn’t bat or bowl their or way out of a paper bag despite doctoring the pitch at night with ghili suited ninjas !!
Get fucked poms , stokes is a wanker !! You’re going dooooown ….. to the world champs , get a big dog up yas !
2 5
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 11:17am
- greybeard
  
  Oh so true, Blue Collar!
  Our top order really gave those poms a lesson !
  In 2 innings !
  Those hundreds of T20 games really set you up for dedicated test batting don’t they !
  
  3 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 3:06pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

If this don’t work, just ignore it.
https://scontent.fakl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/285508443_1112859112919968_383421914762280922_n.jpg?
3 4
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 11:19am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Bad URL. Delete tab does not work.
  
  3 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 11:21am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Mods, can you delete please?
  
  2 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 11:48am
KKKKatee

Interesting observation in stupidity which appears to have infected a lot of people and doesn’t look like it’s going to vanish any time soon.
I went to my monthly dinner meeting with a bunch of ladies – around 100 of us. The woman sitting opposite me announced that she no longer goes anywhere without wearing a mask. Far too dangerous she says. I asked her if she intends on wearing for the rest of her days and she said she would. I then asked her if she considered the virus so deadly, then why did she not consider attending a dinner meeting with us not a threat? She replied ‘Oh, I know everyone here so I’m safe’. Honestly. Ardern’s done a good job on scaring the bejeezus out of her.
21 0
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 11:31am
Lance

Bloody hell
TV 3’s News Nation was so fucked up this morning, that Willie Jackson had to call out the interviewer as being far to extremist
11 0
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 11:37am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Candace Owens on her book “Blackout” She mentions the last Chapter ‘Slavery’ I have this book. Yes the Blacks are leaving the Democrat Plantation.
Blacks are now realising that the Democrats want one thing, their vote. Then they are once again treated like shit. A very clever Woman, strong in her convictions. Make a good Vice President. https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
19 3
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 11:48am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  People still have not worked out that Republicans were founded on anti the dems slavery. It’s disgusting how the Dems frame things, as bad as this vulgar disgusting Marxist Labour party
  
  9 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 12:43pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Good Book G. Money for Candace Owens sure, but a good book.
    
    3 1
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 6:24pm
- curry4me
  
  Yes I hope Candace is VP choice for thre DeSantis campaign in 2028.
  
  6 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 1:13pm
krazykiwi

Bjorn Lomborg tweets:

EU wants to radically change itself to reduce emissions 55% by 2030

Extra cost upwards of €10,000 per EU citizen (€5tr)

It will reduce global temps by 0.004°C (0.007°F)

Let’s not be surprised when the rest of the world doesn’t follow

It’s always been a scam, a slow-baked scheme to enrich the wealthy at the expense of the dutifully terrified hoi palloi.
21 4
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 11:51am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  10k Euro to save the planet? Good value!
  
  Pity the Wgtn ratepayers who have a similar sized debt to pay for the new library/ Civic building/ music centre/ repaired town hall. And that’s without the wretched cycleway costs.
  
  3 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 8:55pm
Maggie Pie

One of the Interns from work was telling us he’s heard rumors the government intends setting up a new ‘Drug Buying Agency- specifically for Maori.

To be headed by Gannin Omrsby, it will be known as…. ‘Pharmahuta’

When approached for comment, Gannin referred all enquires to…. The-Minister-for-Children, Kelvin Davis.

😀 😀 😀
34 3
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 11:57am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I think that was part of the pharmac review, definitely to do more for Māori, it’s disgusting, because I still can’t see how Māori are treated worse than everyone else.
  
  13 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 12:45pm
nathie

Would it be fair to say that many in the MSM have been critical of Minister Mahuta, regarding her role as Foreign Minister and her “absence” from the Pacific whilst both Chinese Foreign Minister Wang and new Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong has been touring?

Would it be fair to say that many in the MSM have NOT been critical of Minister Mahuta, regarding her central government role in leading the 3 Waters reforms and its proposed governing arrangements?

Would it be fair to say then that the Labour Government’s criteria for the Public Interest Journalism fund to include and agree to acceptance of (the newly invented) Te Tiriti co-governance/partnership aspects ARE actually compromising journalistic integrity (despite the push-back from Labour, NZ on Air and Stuffed senior management)?
9 0
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 12:13pm
- cjn
  
  I used to be appalled that the government had bought the media and that the media was peddling propaganda for the Labour/Maori government. Now I think we have got off rather lightly, having watched the production team (Elenski’s production team) creating videos to show how the Russians are committing war crimes in Ukraine. Just imagine if Ardern had been on Shortland Street and had brought into her cabinet the producer and the cameramen to give us a daily update on her loveliness. We don’t know how lucky we are.
  
  4 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 6:25pm
Don Beckett

This cartoon is brilliant. 😆 😆

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/cartoon-of-the-day-108
26 2
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 12:28pm
- David Garrett
  
  Don B: Yes indeed…one of Tremain’s best in recent times
  
  12 2
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 1:06pm
  - kevn
    
    @DG… Tremain always hits the mark.
    
    9 2
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 4:20pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Liz Wheeler unpacks Uvalde shooting. 20 min in she talks about the Police Training Manual. The Police did not follow this – the Commander held them back. The Commander needs to find a new job. A woke wanker. It is 51 minutes but more facts than you will ever get from the biases media.
https://rumble.com/v16y21s-how-did-they-miss-this-about-the-shooter-ep.-152.html?
11 3
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 12:59pm
- curry4me
  
  He also didn’t have a radio.
  
  4 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 1:15pm
- virtualmark
  
  Hard to believe that a Texas police chief is woke.
  
  Easy to believe they’re incompetent.
  
  9 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 1:39pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  To be fair, it’s usually the case in situations like these that dangerously naive and stupid politicians have tied the hands of police (think of a certain failing state in the south pacific).
  
  8 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 2:14pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Must be coz she is blonde with the neg comments
  
  2 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 6:28pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp13_8mmEH4

Mass Protests Erupt in China Over Covid Lockdowns.

Mass student protests erupt in China near a sensitive anniversary and in a very sensitive year for the Chinese Communist Party. Shanghai has re-opened, or…well…kinda, sorta re-opened. And the Chinese Communist Party knows what real democracy is, and it’s not that fake “rule by the people” democracy being practiced in the West. Watch this episode of China Uncensored for that and more of this week’s China news headlines. [17:08]
9 1
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 1:04pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcpab5JEFPQ
Three Waters.

The Tax Payers Union Three Waters roadshow visited Christchurch on Friday. [You can find the petition on their website. 1:55]
8 1
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 1:04pm
Ra Henare

How to go slowly mad!
I thought dealing with Ministry of Social development was insanity in action.

Nope
Singapore Airlines Customer service surpases MSD.

Had a flight booked from Auckland to Singapore on 2nd May.
The airline cancelled it with an email Mid February and advised someone would contact me.
Since then I have sent emails. Filled out online forms (8th April) requesting a mid July date.
They acknowledge that form.
Spent literally hours on hold trying to speak to someone in my local office(Auckland) as instructed on the website.

Even tracked down the singapore airlines facebook page and sent them the details. They said. We can see your request. Just wait. That was on 15th May

Finally the auckland office auto switches to the Contact Centre in Singapore.

They happily booked it but want to charge me $2000!!

That booking will be cancelled in 5 days if I dont pay.

I explain to the girl that it is to replace the cancelled flight….Um too hard..

Suggest I email the Contact centre. Which I do. giving every minute detail.

Auto response..We will get back to you within 15 working days!!!

aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
11 0
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 1:26pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Might be time to go direct to the top
  
  [email protected],
  
  10 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 3:09pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Thanks Maggie. Ontuit
    
    6 0
    Log in to Reply
    Report
    June 4, 2022 6:20pm
- [email protected]
  
  Thanks,
  
  Will scratch Singapore Airlines off my shortlist of airlines to use. This list is getting very short indeed.
  
  Used to fly Air New Zealand exclusively until they screwed my airpoints not once but twice.
  
  3 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 5:11pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

I remember the first time us girls went to Fiji with our parents was in the early 80’s.
Stayed at the ‘Regent Denarau’ and had the time of our lives.
The Fijians are such wonderful fab people.
We went in to Nadi for the ‘duty free’ shopping, but even then dad was wary about dealing with the Indian shopkeepers. Used to say to us, “be careful, they’d sell their own grandmother for a buck” …and other stuff like that 🙁

Harjit Singh from Christchurch…keeping the tradition alive.

https://twitter.com/blairensor/status/1532801442876379136
7 6
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 2:51pm
- greybeard
  
  Unlike “native” Fijians such as Bainimarama who is the absolute epitome of their friendly, honest and trustworthy race. Yes?
  
  4 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 3:02pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Be fair, Maggie. They’d only sell their own grandmother after they’d sold yours.
  
  7 1
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 5:57pm
NK

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/irreversible-damage-what-a-forensic-pathologist-sees-in-bodies-of-covid-patients/ACGWN36Y5ANWDZKZV2WUUIG6MI/

Firewalled, but here’s a quote from the esteemed pathologist:

It’s still unclear what the consequences of repeated infections will be. What does this mean to us at a time when global travel is set to reopen?

I don’t know — so I’m doing everything I can personally to limit repeated exposure to this virus. I am vaccinated and double boosted, and I have vaccinated my children. I’m masking up. I only use N95 masks and I haven’t eaten indoors with strangers in months, getting takeaway or patronising restaurants with outdoor seating, no matter how cold it gets. I avoid travel as much as possible and limit my interactions to a small bubble of family, friends, and work colleagues.

What a sad life she must lead.
18 2
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 3:02pm
- kevn
  
  @NK… The ‘vaccinated’ who caught covid and died?
  Or the ‘unvaxxed’ caught covid and died.
  Best there be an inconvenient true comparison.
  
  8 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 4:15pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Biden is a very sick man, yet the Dems continue with him, because that’s all they have, other than the crazy laughing hyena.
https://dailypatriotreport.com/omg-biden-talks-about-his-multiple-brain-aneurysms-on-live-tv-watch/
7 3
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 3:20pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Humour is Scripture? This is really there, painting done in 2005.
https://dailypol.com/people-stunned-to-find-this-secret-hidden-in-churchs-last-supper-painting/
7 2
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 3:24pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/stuff-to-watch/300605217/the-core-is-this-the-most-bonkers-blockbuster-disaster-movie-of-alltime

The biggest blockbuster disaster movie is yet to come.

Titled “From Here to Ardernity” it will trace the rise and fall of one of the worst ever unnatural disasters, the 2018 – 2023 NZ Labour Government.

( Note: it will be given a new censor’s rating of “U” , denoting Useless policies, Unspeakable stupidity, Unlimited spending and Unbelievably huge ministers ).
9 1
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 5:44pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Promise me that “From Here to Ardernity” will not have a Beach scene
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TlDNMc_hFk
  
  11 0
  Log in to Reply
  Report
  June 4, 2022 5:52pm
Maggie Pie

GOD give me f**ing strength!

Just in the kitchen prepping the Pork Belly.
Turned on the wireless to catch the ZBNews.
Wot do I hear – that woke moron Dim Roxblah talking about…. “his difficulty with potty-training 3 year-old Riley”

DILLIGAF?? Or anyone else for that matter 🙁
9 2
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 5:48pm
Alan Wilkinson

The US has the same problem as here. Charter schools get better results for poor kids than public and cost less money. So of course the unions want to close them.

https://news13now.com/2022/06/02/a-wake-up-call-for-public-education/
10 1
Log in to Reply
Report
June 4, 2022 5:55pm

Add a Comment Cancel reply

Login to comment or vote

« Dairy owners want arms

Labour goes negative »

Donations

You can now donate to Kiwiblog

Exclusive content from DPF on Patreon

Become a Patron!

Never miss a post

Email Address

Join 13K other subscribers

Highlights

Target achieved II
Good progress on attendance
Health Target 5 – elective treatments
Health Target 4 – Specialist appointments

Links

Alan Greenspan, 1926-2026: 'The Undertaker' passes away
Not PC
John Raine: Canary in a Climate World - When Political and Media Narratives Depart from Scientific Evidence
Breaking Views
Word of the day
Hompaddock
Free Speech is in Trouble in Europe
No Minister
The mistakes that sealed Keir Starmer’s fate
Point of Order
Keir Starmer’s fate vs Chippy’s Green Party refusal – a warning to Labour
The Daily Blog
Open Mike 24/06/2026
The Standard
NRL Predictions for Round 17
Stats Chat
The Partition: Ireland Divided 1885 to 1925 by Charles Townshend (2021)
Utopia
Time to tax the rich
No Right Turn
Media Link: “A View from Afar” on Systemic Change.
Kiwipolitico
Alex Berenson on Fatherhood Manifesto, Marijuana & Biden’s COVID
Bob McCoskrie's McBlog
People Power
NZCPR
Levies as end-runs around the Generic Tax Policy Process
Offsetting Behaviour
A central banker’s fiction
Croaking Cassandra
THE WORKING FROM HOME RACKET BY PUBLIC SERVANTS
No Punches Pulled (Bob Jones)
The Accidental Engagement
Imperator Fish
Legal Beagle: Election '23: The Special Votes
Public Address
Get Vaccinated Tomorrow Or Shut Your Pie Hole
Cactus Kate
Making this movie might have been a mistake
Liam Hehir
Why I am retiring from political blogging
Kiwi FireWalker

[email protected]

PO Box 12270, Thorndon, Wellington 6144

Facebook
Twitter
FourSquare
Instagram
LinkedIn
Google+

Archives
Disclosure Statement
Editorial Policy
Privacy Policy
Complaints Policy
Comments Policy

Design by cre8d

%d

Share this:

Like this: