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Maggy Wassilieff

I’m losing track of all the Auckland drive-by shootings…
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/06/police-respond-to-drive-by-shooting-in-clover-park-auckland.html
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June 7, 2022 8:06am
- alloytoo
  
  Police Chopper has been hovering over the Half-Moon Bay – Pakuranga for days now.
  
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  June 7, 2022 8:09am
  - Simon
    
    “Police Chopper has been hovering over the Half-Moon Bay – Pakuranga for days now.”
    
    Yep if you have been driving 55km you can expect a ticket. Safer communities.
    
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    June 7, 2022 8:18am
- Tricati
  
  And no comment from Ardern, given her strong position on gun violence during her US visit, or from Chole Swarbrick being the central Auckland MP.
  Both missing in action so guess just to hard to front up, and at least, show some support for the Police.
  
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  June 7, 2022 8:15am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Let Central Aucklanders have this. They elected Cannabis Chloe as their MP.
    
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    June 7, 2022 10:00am
    - Nickc2
      
      For once I have to agree with you Sir.
      
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      June 7, 2022 10:52am
    - unaha-closp
      
      Clover Park is in Manurewa Electorate. The absent without caring MP you are looking for is Arena Williams.
      
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      June 7, 2022 1:26pm
      - Tricati
        
        The same Arena Williams involved in the KO shit storm & Labour candidate election shambles – Go figure
        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/11/kainga-ora-hid-the-fact-it-was-using-labour-candidate-arena-williams-in-taxpayer-funded-advertising.html
        
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        June 7, 2022 1:49pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Shop owners are looking at gun license, her answer, I would not like to see people armed , FFS the crims are
    
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    June 7, 2022 11:59am
    - NoFax
      
      Also her security detail are armed. But I guess she is more important than the shop owners who are facing serious threats to life and livelihood.
      
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      June 7, 2022 2:11pm
      - [email protected]
        
        I bet that when shop owners get guns and start using them to protect themselves (and their property) there will be a significant reduction in shops being robbed.
        
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        June 7, 2022 6:20pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  That can’t be right, Brenda took all the guns away to save us.
  
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  June 7, 2022 8:18am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Brenda has no clue. Best she make and pass a Law saying that “shooting someone is illegal”
    Then it will stop before lunchtime….
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:21am
    - Phronesis
      
      If you passed a law making homicide with a firearm a compulsory sentence of life without parole you would make gun crime disappear overnight. The little scrotes would go back to knifing each other, maybe crossbow’s or hand grenades. But the gun crime problem would be solved. It’s not how people commit crime that’s the problem.
      
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      June 7, 2022 10:02am
- kowtow
  
  Given how Coster is so keen on “policing by consent” which is actually the Peel Principles , perhaps the Police Minister needs to point out #9 to him.
  
  ‘The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with it.’
  
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  June 7, 2022 8:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Neither of those two are capable of understanding it
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:26am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    I hereby consent to Andrew Coster being replaced as Police Commissioner. How’s that for “policing by consent”?
    
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    June 7, 2022 10:42am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  I was in Auckland this weekend, and our host said that a friend of their had their house shot up in the wee hours, because in the past a gang associate had lived there but since moved on/changed occupiers.
  
  So much for the Labour theory that gang violence only impacts gangs.
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:07am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  A second shooting in CHCH yesterday in a week.
  Theee is a meme out with the princess getting off the plane saying oh a 21 gun salute for me, and some people aside saying whose gunna tell her is the result of gang violence, bwhahagagaga
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:13am
  - Thought Criminal
    
    Here it is https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/cartoon-of-the-day-108
    
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    June 7, 2022 10:51am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      That’s the one
      
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      June 7, 2022 4:01pm
  - curry4me
    
    I saw that meme. Its on my FB. I got it from another site.
    
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    June 7, 2022 1:54pm
- Lance
  
  We live in a fairly upmarket area as far as West Auckland goes, a house (circa $1.2 million) a few blocks away was severely damaged by a Molotov Cocktail.
  It didn’t even make it to the news.
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:57am
artemisia

Everything is hunky dory in Labour land. The Prime Minister tells us so.

“When it comes to law changes, we are always very focused on what works. We don’t need politics here. We don’t need tokenistic changes. We need things that work….”

Such a relief. Her comment was in the context of more gang shootups ironically, but is clearly intended to signal wider application to other law changes.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-shootings-violence-spurs-call-for-australian-gang-laws-in-nz/MG73TERGSH4IY6DUWQ5CIRWU2M/
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June 7, 2022 8:07am
- pdm
  
  `We don’t need tokenistic changes. ‘
  
  What bullshit.
  
  Tokenism is a core part of everything they do – add in ideology and everyone should be able to see the disaster this government is.
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:05am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Someone should probably ask her why, if that were true, they removed any measurement and accountability for their policies?
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:13am
  - kowtow
    
    They’re not doing “tokenism”.
    They’re fundamentally changing the constitution , by stealth.
    
    Devious , dangerous, radicalism.
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:18am
  - Surely Knott
    
    We don’t need tokenistic changes but our big decision this week was to fund a research and pr dept who will be focussed on releasing papers to the media on white supremacists and identity politics.
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:29am
    - mawm
      
      Don’t we get given a choice? I’m not sure whether I want to identify as a white supremacist, a misogynist or a deplorable. I’m only just getting used to stale pale male after all the boomer rhetoric.
      
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      June 7, 2022 12:10pm
  - artemisia
    
    Opposition MPs could usefully have a few palm sized cards with helpful quotes from the PM, ready to mention at suitable moments. Of which there will be plenty. This one qualifies.
    
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    June 7, 2022 11:40am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    I laughed when Bridges shut her down for playing politics when the questions were about her failures
    
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    June 7, 2022 12:04pm
alloytoo

National Chocolate Ice-Cream day today.
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June 7, 2022 8:07am
Stellaboxer

So are the police
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June 7, 2022 8:11am
Maggy Wassilieff

‘Peter Ellis did not abuse our child’

Thirty years on…..

How did we get so caught up in this travesty of justice? My husband and I are sensible people. We are both intelligent professionals. I look back now and see that I was captured by the hype. Xxxxx xxxx [Police detective] spent considerable time with us. He was adamant that xxxxxx had been abused “terribly, horrifically abused”. He insisted we get xxxxxx HIV-AIDS tested “because Peter Ellis abused her, and he has AIDS”. I will always remember the horror of holding my daughter down with two other people while her femoral artery was tapped for blood. She was HIV negative. That was abuse!

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/peter-ellis-did-not-abuse-our-child
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June 7, 2022 8:11am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Sorry to be picky, but an HIV test is just a regular, very simple, blood test through a vein in the arm. The kind of test I have every 2 weeks.
  
  The femoral artery is very rarely tapped for blood to test for oxygen levels in severely ill people. It seems staggering if this technique was used as an HIV test.
  
  https://www.medicinenet.com/what_is_an_arterial_blood_sample/article.htm
  
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  June 7, 2022 8:17am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Remember this was performed over 30 years ago on a small child.
    
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    June 7, 2022 8:27am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  ‘Captured by the hype’.
  
  You would think that intelligent professionals who are sensible would have a certain level of perspective.
  
  On the other hand, sounds a bit like covinda.
  
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  June 7, 2022 6:16pm
Maggie Pie

This is both interesting and concerning…

I see KLAUS SCHWAB follows Cindy on Twitter!

https://twitter.com/ProfKlausSchwab/following

(He started following me last year as well, but I got sooo scared I blocked him 🙁 )
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June 7, 2022 8:12am
- ClanMcleod
  
  No surprise there, she’s probably his best preforming pupil. You did the right thing blocking him, he’s a weirdo.
  
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  June 7, 2022 8:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Jaspinda is a disciple? Suppose she is – along with H1
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:36am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Steve, she has her very own page. They rate her highly. One of their very best.
      
      https://www.weforum.org/people/jacinda-ardern
      
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      June 7, 2022 10:06am
- MCōs
  
  She has 788k followers and her account is virtually inactive.
  She wouldn’t notice if Beelzebub followed her.
  
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  June 7, 2022 8:35am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I’m coming for your property. You will own nothing.
    
    https://twitter.com/versioney/status/1533797523822940160
    
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    June 7, 2022 8:40am
  - Yabster
    
    huh naive- Cindy would know if her mentor followed her – exactly the sort of shit she loves and is good at- social bloody media.
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:42am
  - kowtow
    
    No wonder Elon has his doubts about buying.
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:51am
  - KKKKatee
    
    She buys a lot of her followers.
    
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    June 7, 2022 2:23pm
- MCōs
  
  Almost half the Tory MPs have no confidence in their leader, and he doesn’t know who most of them are.
  Labour had a similar problem here with the string of leaders that preceded Ardern due to their internal election process. From what I understand they weren’t caucus favourites, but they were thrust upon them.
  So, how long will Johnson last before some other Eton old boy takes over the reins?
  At least Sir Keir Starmer graduated from Oxford.
  
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  June 7, 2022 8:59am
  - Paulus
    
    Didn’t Boris Graduate from Oxford with what is called Greats – that is PPE (Politics, Philosophy and Economics) same as my granddaughter.
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:34am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    211/148. Don’t see that as a no confidence vote
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:38am
    - MCōs
      
      Their cabinet has thirty members who must vote for him or resign.
      If ten backbenchers had voted differently he would have had a hostile backbench.
      As it is 148 didn’t vote for a change of leadership; they expressed no confidence in Boris Johnson.
      Nobody stood against him as an alternative.
      Both May & Thatcher were eventually obliged to resign although they won votes of confidence.
      
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      June 7, 2022 10:06am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I know very little about British Politics, I just saw the numbers. Boris combs his hair with a balloon, needs to tidy his act up.
        
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        June 7, 2022 10:24am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        Correct – surviving a vote of no confidence is the same as when the Chairman of Arsenal expresses “full confidence in the Manager”.
        
        You then know it’s a matter of weeks, not months before they go.
        
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        June 7, 2022 10:48am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Not Arsenal, old boy. We leave that sort of thing to the lesser clubs in North London.
        
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        June 7, 2022 6:20pm
  - mogg
    
    Boris is the man who ignored the science and opened up the country for business as usual, when everybody else was predicting catastrophe, death and destruction. Authoritarian Scotland an Wales kept their restrictions for as long as possible, like Ardern they enjoyed having complete control over peoples lives.
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:58am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Which goes to show how the whole idea of left/right balance is a sham. If you told Tony Benn the labour party would one day be headed by an Oxbridge Knight he would have called you insane.
    Mind you, NZ has a WEF globalist shill so not much better. We won’t talk about the fascist WEF student ruining (sic) Canada.
    
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    June 7, 2022 10:12am
    - mogg
      
      You mean the Wedgwood Benn who tried to hide his Private School education, before going on to graduate from Oxford.
      
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      June 7, 2022 10:28am
      - Stellaboxer
        
        I think you’ll find Mogg Benn actually renounced an hereditary lordship.
        
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        June 7, 2022 11:10am
    - Paulus
      
      Remember that Tony Benn was actually Lord Stansgate at one time.
      
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      June 7, 2022 1:34pm
ClanMcleod

Michael P Senger article discussing a piece published on the World Socialist Website titled:

“How Swedish authorities worked to export” herd immunity” to other countries”

It’s an excellent but disturbing revelation into how the minds of Ardern and her socialist buddies work.
These people aren’t stupid, they are irrational and dangerous. Most of all, they are wrong.

https://michaelpsenger.substack.com/p/world-socialist-web-site-accuses?s=r

I’m currently reading Senger’s book about Xi. It’s a very interesting read.
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June 7, 2022 8:16am
Maggy Wassilieff

I was unaware that some of our Secondary schools lack Science teachers

“In some places in New Zealand, which have high numbers of Māori and Pacific groups, there are high schools that don’t have science teachers. There isn’t even the option for students to take science subjects.”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/468612/covid-19-having-impact-on-already-high-rates-of-nursing-students-dropping-out

There is no way NZ will produce enough qualified nurses and medical technicians if our secondary pupils never encounter decent biology, chemistry and physics teachers.
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June 7, 2022 8:21am
- Ehlana
  
  How can you be a decent science teacher these days? If you are never allowed to say male, female, girl, boy, man or woman, how do you tell students about human reproduction and the health implications of our differing bodily systems?
  If you are required to tell them that Maori traditional knowledge has the same standing as peer reviewed science, why should they make the effort to engage with objectivity, verifiability and the risk of dispute?
  
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  June 7, 2022 8:41am
  - pdm
    
    Do they still dissect frogs?
    
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    June 7, 2022 8:50am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    If Mātauranga Māori (Maori science) offers insights that are not available through physics, chemistry and biology using the scientific methods, why is it not adopted by the education systems of other countries?
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:12am
  - kowtow
    
    Really when you put it like that you can see how cultural marxism is literally undermining the west and its values . Capture them young in school and the Red Guards will then graduate into the left dominated professions , unions , ngo’s etc and continue the war.
    
    And the rest of us stay silent for fear of losing livelihood etc
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:36am
  - MiddleclassTrash
    
    Great point.
    The aims of the people who promote these daft beliefs & methods are good.
    Everybody wants improved results for Maori, PIs, what have you. Everybody.
    Unfortunately, their dopey lefty approach makes the job impossible, and harms these groups terribly. I feel sorry for them.
    
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    June 7, 2022 3:53pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  40% of NZ kids aren’t going to school regularly. All of those future illiterate, innumerate, ignorant and undisciplined unemployables will turn NZ into Venezuela within 2-3 decades, a 3rd world vassal of China, and there is no longer any chance of averting it. Demographics is destiny. Be grateful if you are already retired and will be dead before you have to eat your pets.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/truancy-issues-more-children-taking-longer-to-get-back-to-school-as-attendance-continues-to-fall/7B2KE6ABBFY7SRB7Q4Q2ESR26A/
  
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  June 7, 2022 8:56am
  - mawm
    
    With the decreasing buying power of the dollar (inflation) I might have too.
    
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    June 7, 2022 12:29pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Why do they need them when they have the marvels of Maori sciences Mags. Remember their forefathers discovered Antarctica.
  
  They can learn about Taniwhas and mystical spirits and how their forefather caught the North Island. That is what constitutes science in New Zimbabwe now.
  
  Science is a colonial construct.
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:00am
- Master Mariner
  
  Unfortunately in the real world this is what is results in decent and stimulating work.
  
  Don’t forget Maths as well.
  I believe there should be an aptitude test in all subjects to teach, Sure you will be stronger in certain subjects but at least have the resources to teach other subjects if needed.
  
  It really seems to be a race to the bottom with the teacher profession.
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:01am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The teachers are prob getting trained up to teach science in Te Reo.
  What is going to happen when it comes to Biology teaching boys from girls? Will they also teach the other unknown genders?
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:42am
  - Nickc2
    
    They will use three taniwha to model the behaviour, a male, a female, and the other can be anything the teacher wants of the alphabet variety.
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:57am
- oldfella
  
  Maggy, as long as our Secondary schools have en0ugh people who can teach Te Reo, and Maori science, our kids will be just fine.
  Fit and ready for the big, wide, world. //
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:22am
- Hebe123
  
  The school my sister taught at is a sizeable large town/ small city school – about 1500 boys. Had Two senior maths teachers – both were fired last November. Still today all the senior math classes are “taught” by one primary school teacher with no maths qual. They can’t get anyone to replace those they fired who are not interested in returning after the way they were dismissed and treated by staff and students.
  
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  June 7, 2022 4:39pm
Opie

Is this racism? Literally saying its a sin to be white…

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/06/how-christopher-luxon-is-rebranding-the-national-party.html

“Yes, he’s white, male, rich, bald and Christian. He’s even middle aged. But despite those sins perhaps there is an after-life, or at least a successful political life for Luxon, after his corporate conquests.”
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June 7, 2022 8:27am
- Yabster
  
  Espiner- what else would you expect from him.
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:45am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Espinoza does not vote so to stay neutral, pity the scum didn’t
    
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    June 7, 2022 12:09pm
- Ehlana
  
  To sin is to miss the mark. (Apparently, the word actually has its origins in archery). In the Christian sense, sin is about “the wrong we have done, and the good we have not done”, it requires “thought, word or deed” and is acknowledged as occurring “in weakness, … in ignorance, and … deliberate fault”.
  
  Newshub’s writer has a different interpretation, from the modern progressive religion (MPR), in which a person is condemned for attributes largely or partially beyond their control (white, male, bald, rich, middle-aged). Actions, intentions, human fraility are not acknowledged.
  
  Christianity offers redemption from sin; does MPR?
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:02am
- kowtow
  
  I don’t know why they co operate with the Media pardy , the result will always be less than flattering to any pollie seen by the Media pardy to be “right of centre” ie a threat to their hegemony.
  
  The article was full of little nasty coded , loaded digs and dog whistles.
  
  ‘soon the business crowd pays increasing attention to the scrambled eggs…..
  ……Twenty minutes late and flustered after a last-minute briefing with his new chief press secretary Hamish Rutherford, he’s struggling with his lapel mic and can’t get comfortable in his suit…….
  ……No. He flunks it, attempting to duck the question……
  …….Why did his search for the meaning of life lead him to spend 18 years flogging ice cream and cosmetics and making sure millions of armpits were dry and fragrant?…….
  
  …… an inadvertent dig at his political mentor and friend John Key……..
  
  ……Luxon leads me through the long hallway to a kitchen and lounge area so large it is slightly disorientating.
  
  The cushions on the outdoor furniture flap in the ragged wind. The pool will not be used today.”
  
  Could someone point me to a similar Espiner story on Vaxcinda ?
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:55am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    She won’t do interviews, she is dear leader, how dear they
    
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    June 7, 2022 12:10pm
  - [email protected]
    
    Sorry for the downtick, meant to give you an uptick but missed the mark.
    
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    June 7, 2022 12:44pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      All good
      
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      June 7, 2022 4:03pm
- Jack5
  
  Christopher Luxon emerged from the Herald article as electable: from a similar modest background in Christchurch to John Key, and with a similar self-driven rise to successful international businessman.
  
  Luxon’s belief in global warming is probably and sadly necessary when you want votes from the heavily brainwashed.
  
  Guyon Espiner mentions a bookcase in the Luxon home jammed with political books, but there are surely more titles in it than those that caught Espiner’s Left eye.
  
  Espiner’s an enthusiast for Maori language, and gave a nod to Luxon’s interest, which is fine as long as Luxon would end the Ardern fanatics’ drive to replace New Zealand English, and would stop State TV and State radio blasting us with an NZ Pidgin blend.
  
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  June 7, 2022 11:48am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Also great themat he has spent some time today to declare the crap two people approached Labour on his behalf were another utter desperate lie
    
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    June 7, 2022 4:05pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Just loose use of language by Guyon. Sinning is an action or inaction, i.e. a choice. It’s not a state of being.
  
  Put another way, no one can be blamed for being white or middle aged; by definition, these statuses are not a matter of choice.
  
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  June 7, 2022 6:26pm
Maggie Pie

PACKIN’ HEAT 😛

A new ‘sex-tape’ has emerged showing Hunter Biden cavorting with a hooker…..waving around an illegal gun in one hand while gripping his genitalia with the other.

https://trib.al/oNSAotA

More problems for the BIG GUY to contend with?
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June 7, 2022 8:27am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  The “Big Guy” can barely remember who his son is without having it put on a teleprompter Maggie, so I doubt it’s concerning him too much. I read this morning that he’s “seething” about the way his Presidency is being viewed and that his popularity is below that of Trump when he was President. I said to my wife that when he starts “seething”, a staffer should offer him a coffee and a biscuit. All would be forgotten then.
  
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  June 7, 2022 8:42am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Perhaps HM The Queen should send over Paddington Bear with a marmalade sandwich to soothe him.
    Better than a biscuit.
    Where is Biscuit, by the way?
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:33am
- RoboRob
  
  Dear viewers / readers
  
  92 ‘the standard ‘ blog political experts have not investigated any of this but have signed a document identifying this as having all the signs of Russian disinformation. As such we will not be investigating or covering any stories related to this.
  
  Yours (in) sincerely
  CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, NY Times and Washington post.
  
  p.s. As this appears to be hacked, Facebook & Youtube will also be blocking any coverage of this story. As always posts around Donald Trumps ‘leaked’ tax returns will remain available.
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:00am
- Frank the tank
  
  Hunter Biden – the gift that keeps on giving.
  
  And everyone used to think Don Jr was a bid weird.
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:01am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    I wonder if he and Clarke Gayford connected, whilst Jacinda was having a yarn with Dad
    
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    June 7, 2022 10:58am
    - oldfella
      
      Tony, a Gayford/Hunter connection sounds just a bit… weird. But to each his own I guess. 😉
      
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      June 7, 2022 12:28pm
- Nickc2
  
  Cavorting with a hooker, waving a gun around, and clutching the family jewels is not a crime in any state of the USA AFIK.
  It’s well known that Hunter and his father have charges to face as a result of evidence relating to their dealings with Ukraine and China contained on Hunter’s Lap Top, but will they?
  I seriously doubt it whilst the Washington Swamp is still infected with Democrats and justice in America can be bought at a price.
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:01am
  - All_on_Red
    
    The gun was illegally purchased by Hunter.
    His ex wife also got rid of it by throwing it in a rubbish bin outside some shops which are opposite a High School. Pretty dumb thing to do.
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:41am
    - Nickc2
      
      So why weren’t they both charged and was the gun used in the cavorting the same one?
      
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      June 7, 2022 9:46am
      - All_on_Red
        
        “why weren’t they both charged…”
        Lol. Corrupt Democrats.
        
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        June 7, 2022 11:46am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, the BIG GUY is being undermined by his staff and the new WH press lady is lost for words. Even the once brown nosing MSM over there is breaking ranks and Hunter’s revelations just add fuel to the fire.
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Notice the excellent gun discipline by Hunter?
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:53am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Yet the big guy pooped his way to victory, and now he is hated by most, I am starting to think Trump is right and the election was rigged, how could this bumbling ole oaf have ever got the biggest vote in American history
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:25am
In Vino Veritas

Former Trump advisor Peter Navarro arrested and held in leg irons. Supposedly on contempt of Congress charges. The Democrats are doing nothing more than trying to intimidate potential witnesses, as the defence of privilege has not yet been determined by a court to be invalid. Will the Democrats stoop to literally anything?
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June 7, 2022 8:39am
- Inandout
  
  VV, this was the guy who was supposed to appear on the Huckeby show but Pelosi intervened and had his car stopped. Imagine the horrible trio of Pelosi/Schiff/Nadler having people arrested because they have papers amassed during the Trump term, and supposedly are private. Others who have similar papers have been ignored.
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:24am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Dems can go much much lower than that. They play dirty 24/7.
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:56am
  - mawm
    
    [deleted, too far. Mod]
    
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    June 7, 2022 12:38pm
    - mawm
      
      Batty – history is replete with socialists going “that far”.
      
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      June 7, 2022 4:46pm
      - Batman
        
        Sure but that’s not the conversation here, is it?
        
        We’re not talking communist revolution but radicalised individuals in 2022 who have been living in a reality bubble which tells them that they must take action against imagined evils.
        
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        June 7, 2022 6:20pm
      - mawm
        
        No we’re not. We are talking about the Democrats and their politicisation of law enforcement and using it against their political opposition. The Democratic Party has been taken over by their radical ultra left who are progressive/socialist/communist depending on how much lipstick you want to apply. Hence the comment I made.
        
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        June 7, 2022 8:23pm
  - Batman
    
    I don’t think it’s the Democrats who people should be concerned about. Rather the militias who have been pilled by conservative media and are now murdering people:
    
    “A retired Wisconsin judge was found zip-tied and shot to death in his home on Friday. The man who murdered the judge had Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, among others, on his “hit list.” WTMJ reports that the 56-year-old suspect is a part of a “militia.”
    
    https://t.co/qwnkCZ7nId
    
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    June 7, 2022 1:41pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      So you’re okay with BLM & Antifa – all funded by the Dems, and who have murdered & pillaged & burnt down major parts of several US cities ? You’re okay whith them, but OH NO – those terrible nazi militias.
      Spare us.
      Anyone who breaches the law IRT people & property should be arrested.
      – Jan 6th. DC Capital peaceful protest – some arrested.
      – BLM & Antifa in their hundreds, burning cities & killing people – let off the hook because funded by Soros & the Dems.
      
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      June 7, 2022 2:37pm
      - SoloView
        
        @ Don
        – BLM & Antifa in their hundreds, burning cities & killing people – let off the hook because funded by Soros & the Dems.
        Show me the proof.
        In return I’ll show you how we are ruled by lizards.//
        
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        June 7, 2022 3:49pm
      - Batman
        
        Don you’re going to need to provide some actual evidence of large parts of cities being burnt down before I take you seriously.
        
        Second, that’s a stupid whataboutism. Find a better argument or maybe just say nothing?
        
        Or, be less partisan and condemn crazed political violence?
        
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        June 7, 2022 6:18pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Hows this for just Mineapolis.
        https://sarahwestall.com/minneapolis-is-burning-soros-paid-antifa-gangs-involved/
        
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        June 7, 2022 7:41pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        ………..and this from Portland, Oregon.
        https://news.yahoo.com/rioters-set-fire-federal-courthouse-162333860.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN0WAGZTzMaek-YUUlGzt95dN2LpExrdQ2rpKqMtF6M_-0JxA0ZhY2BNIzFGynaSaNNyCrDmN6byOjjlDl1wwzW53j-XMGfCQy9rd9FswcokS7f32QoD6ZNLGlNmV_aoHaNrmPWorhOhaBz8JxP6a4NwrcIiUEXFn7HdOwpFyy-T
        
        This is just 2 of 6 or 7 areas of cities being burned.
        
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        June 7, 2022 7:44pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Batman.
        “Or, be less partisan and condemn crazed political violence?”
        That’s very much Pot. Kettle. Black
        
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        June 7, 2022 7:47pm
Frank the tank

Sooooo the scareporn is ramping up again.

Hendy and co are predicting a second wave (just another guess Gav?) while the Horrid was posting stories about catching covid twice from some fat councilor that is best friends with Harry Tam.

We are a pathetic little nation………..
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June 7, 2022 8:51am
- kowtow
  
  I got sucked into reading that story , in the belief that finally someone writing in the msm had a modicum of common sense . Alas . And that name rang a bell until now I look it up and lo and behold .
  
  Good God , how can they publish that stuff ,esp in the middle of a gang led gun crime wave.
  
  “Hawke’s Bay-based Mongrel Mob life member Harry Tam was granted an essential workers exemption to travel into locked down Auckland.”
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:25am
  - Inandout
    
    kowtow, you know ‘deals’ can rarely be done over mobiles, it is face to face…. hence.
    
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    June 7, 2022 10:07am
- alloytoo
  
  It’s likely you could catch Omicron if you’ve previously had Delta.
  
  The odd however of catching Omicron twice are 1 in 1.8 Million. Anybody who does is one of a lucky hand full and should take out a lotto ticket.
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:31am
  - Hebe123
    
    Not true. Look overseas.
    
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    June 7, 2022 8:35pm
- Matt Long
  
  Based on other countries a second wave is most likely. If it hits in winter, also likely, symptoms are likely to be more severe. Comes down to poor management by the Government.
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:42am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Comes down to 2 years of government directed over zealous hygiene and hiding under the bed. Then add in vaccines that increase the likelihood of getting covid and reduce the ability of your immune system to deal with other infections.
    Any increase in winter illness is directly attributable to Ardern and her”experts”.
    
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    June 8, 2022 9:10am
- Hebe123
  
  It’s quite likely. Very highly vaxxed Portugal is seeing multiple waves with lots of reinfections in the jabbed population.
  
  If you’re jabbed and have had it once, don’t think it’s over!
  
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  June 7, 2022 8:35pm
Frank the tank

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2022/06/nrl-warriors-coach-nathan-brown-reportedly-on-verge-of-quitting-can-t-commit-to-auckland-relocation.html

Who would blame him. Noooobody wants to come to the smug communist hermit kingdom.
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June 7, 2022 8:53am
- edhunter
  
  Realistically he stands a very slim chance of having his contract extended beyond next year, events over the last 3 seasons have not helped his cause at all & now the team looks like it’s falling apart at the seams. Good on him for falling on his sword, I say we throw the kitchen sink at getting Shane Flanagan here and hopefully JA doesn’t lock down the country ever again.
  
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  June 7, 2022 11:56am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Flanno won’t come – there is 1 (possibly) 2 Sydney-based gigs coming up. It will be Stacey Jones or some assistant coach that wants to step up
    
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    June 7, 2022 3:52pm
Master Mariner

The real truth about our high vaccination rate.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/des-gorman-auckland-university-emeritus-professor-says-the-actual-vaccine-rate-will-be-much-less-than-90-percent/

Seemed pretty obvious to me that the 96% was all smoke and mirrors at the time along with Covid deaths.
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June 7, 2022 8:54am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  NZ Herald running with a similar tale
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-omicron-ministry-of-health-accused-of-cooking-the-books-in-nzs-pandemic-response/IOSJVKE7UGIETDPNDHHDTD7JEQ/
  
  But Truth be told, nothing is as we were led to believe:
  https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01526-0
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:24am
  - kowtow
    
    “Truth be told”
    
    Amazing how this Media Pardy who from the outset of the batflu hypedupdemic were responsible for creating the fear conditions that politicians refused to stand against are now reporting that some stats were dubious .
    
    The cheek . The whole damn thing and especially the media role in it was dubious.
    
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    June 7, 2022 10:58am
    - mawm
      
      They are preparing to blame the “unvaccinated” again.
      
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      June 7, 2022 1:01pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        And I told you that all bloody viruses and jabs create a knock to the immunity, do some homework on basic biology ffs, and do not lecture me about your stupidity
        
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        June 7, 2022 4:10pm
      - mawm
        
        Obviously you did not read the scientific paper describing the specific effects of the mRNA vaccines on the immune system at a cellular and molecular level. The problem is that the spike proteins from these vaccines are produced in vast numbers (it varies a bit), for some time (shown to happen for up to 160 days but could be longer as that’s when the observational study ended) and exert their effects at a number of levels of the immune response for prolonged period of time. The mechanism by which they work is novel and there has never been any vaccine that acts in this manner so it is pointless comparing them to any other vaccine. Exposure to a virus results in immediate response by a person’s innate immunity.
        
        So you are wrong with everything you said. The difference between your “basic biology” and my knowledge of immunology is that you would not be able to understand the paper I referenced, but give it a try and you’ll see that I have done my homework.
        
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        June 7, 2022 5:10pm
- Nickc2
  
  Meanwhile Cindy’s office employed another fifty media consultants. Oh, the irony!
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:28am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    50 spinners
    
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    June 7, 2022 10:02am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Is she touring India?
      
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      June 7, 2022 7:38pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  It has been a catalogue of lies and deceit from the very beginning. That much is clear. Now why? National should be stating they will hold a high level investigation and that there will be consequences for those complicit. Hendy will be near the top of the list.
  I won’t hold my breath, there seems to be a lot of fear among NZ politicians.
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:19am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    They already have CM. Luxon has stated clearly that if Labour does not establish a Royal Commission of Inquiry to investigate the government response to COVID, they will do so within 100 days of coming to office.
    
    One thing you can be sure of is that the Terms of Reference for a Royal Commission set up by the current opposition would be far wider than for an inquiry set up by Labour!
    
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    June 7, 2022 11:07am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Doesn’t it annoy you when someone spouts on but does not go the basic of homework
      
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      June 7, 2022 12:14pm
      - mawm
        
        Pot/kettle much! Have you read the link I gave you about the effects of the mRNA vaccines on the immune system after you claimed they hadn’t affected the biology? No thought not. It’s called homework.
        
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        June 7, 2022 1:05pm
      - Observer of Life
        
        G in DUD: You should read your words carefully and let it sink in a bit.
        
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        June 7, 2022 9:16pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        I wasn’t “spouting”. I simply wasn’t aware of the National position. Like most people, I’m not aware of every single announcement out of every party in NZ.
        You come across as a very angry person. You should try and relax more.
        
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        June 8, 2022 9:19am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      TS – thanks for that, wasn’t aware that they had stated they would do so. That’s good news.
      
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      June 8, 2022 9:15am
- cmm
  
  Remember all that the 90%+ vaccination rate was really for one purpose only:
  It is a bullet point that Cindy can put on her CV to show how good she is at getting a population to comply.
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:20am
  - mawm
    
    It wasn’t only Jacinda, Boris did the same and I wouldn’t bet against Justin having done it either.
    
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    June 7, 2022 1:07pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    How do we know it’s 90%? Just ‘cos Cindy says it is, doesn’t mean it is. We know how she lies.
    
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    June 7, 2022 2:27pm
    - Observer of Life
      
      I’d still love to know if Cindy actually got any jabs.. I know she was on TV being jabbed, but what was in that syringe? I don’t trust she has had any of this shite injected into her body.
      (And yes, it is just my opinion).
      
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      June 7, 2022 9:19pm
Frank the tank

Remember at the height of the covid cult we had literally hundreds of wealthy individuals that wanted to come to New Zimbabwe and invest gazillions into our local economy creating thousands of high paying jobs and creating new industries.

Is it just me or did zero of these individuals arrive?
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June 7, 2022 8:55am
- Nickc2
  
  Some Russian Oligarchs were on their way, but turned back. They discovered midstream that the NZ Govt was too honest for their liking.//
  
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  June 7, 2022 12:50pm
Maggie Pie

And probably no surprise to a lot of us….

Elon is saying he will withdraw Twitter takeover bid…accuses the platform of “material breach” for withholding data.
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June 7, 2022 9:01am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Price is currently $40/share, he offered $54, seems market is judging the deal is dead, and if he does pursue purchase Elon can probably get control for a lot less than he offered, moreso if there is a market crash (pretty good chance in next year)
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:44am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The Bots and Twitter need to remember who they are dealing with. People like Musk and Trump know what they are doing. That is why they are billionaires and we are not!
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:04am
Frank the tank

Saw Top Gun on the weekend.

Best movie since Lord of the Rings.

-No woke shit
-Good guys blowing up shit and bad guys
-Hetrosexual relationships

And unsurprisingly a smash hit.
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June 7, 2022 9:04am
- Yabster
  
  yep good flick.
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:47am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Yep Frank, I thought it was awesome. Only a couple of flying parts that were stitched together by computer but overall, fantastic film. 10\10.
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:26am
- curry4me
  
  The new Top Gun would have been a hit because of those things. Netflix have told their woke employees to stow it. Several woke series have been cancelled.
  
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  June 7, 2022 2:16pm
- Batman
  
  Wait, that’s the stupid political takeaway from it?
  
  Maybe, just maybe, people like escapist fun movies with planes and explosions? And it is COOL.
  
  I saw it too and agree it is a fantastic film.
  
  But to claims it’s because there are straight people and no woke shit is dumb.
  
  Did you decide you liked it so much that you wouldn’t complain about the diversity characters? Don’t get me wrong, good on you for that because apparently the hardcore Star Wars fanbase can’t do that without being racist incels about it.
  
  One might call it woke that the quietly best pilot aside from Maverick was Phoenix, the female character who got shit done first time and was a strong feminist type (aka woke?)
  
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  June 7, 2022 6:02pm
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Nah Batman, the best pilot aside from Maverick was Hangman. So maybe there was a bit of woke on Mavericks part selecting Phoenix. Just for eg, pulling 9G or over is like feeling 1800 lb and would be crippling for her as she was so tiny. She would have struggled (to breathe as much as anything) with the pop to clear the last ridge after lighting the target. But then, it was only a movie! And equating feminism with wokeness is just taking the piss.
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:13pm
  - than
    
    I saw nothing ‘feminist’ about Phoenix that I could differentiate from the other pilots. In any case, it wasn’t in your face pandering nor was it shoehorned in for the sake of some quota.
    
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    June 7, 2022 9:17pm
Warren

Clare Trevett starts fawning over Jacinda Ardern’s popularity overseas and her radiant smiles and laughter the comes with it, but can’t understand why she has a different demeanor in New Zealand.
Well a good reason for that is she lives a life of lies and deciet and it is only a matter of time before the politically corrupt media that Clare Trevett is a part sees the writing on the wall that the majority of New Zealander’s want change and honesty in their Government not Journalists like yourself Clare that fawn over every word our dishonest Leader and Government say. We need the media to hold the Prime Minister and her Government to account for the mess Jacinda Ardern has made and our Prime Minister knows that day is not that far away and her kind and caring policy like her smiles and false demeanor have multiplied for New Zealand to see. Our Prime Minister can fool those that don’t know her but not those that gave their vote for a better New Zealand.
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June 7, 2022 9:09am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Savage, but true. Her day of reckoning will come, and she will go underground, hiding from everyone and everything.
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:10am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  She is wasting her time fawning, once you lose the people, you lose them forever
  
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  June 7, 2022 12:15pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep, Brand failure.
    
    Might be time for Labour to reset.
    
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    June 7, 2022 3:37pm
Lenticular

From RNZ today: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/468615/how-christopher-luxon-is-rebranding-the-national-party

The Left has captured the National Party.

“Luxon has spent decades studying political leaders. The white bookcase is crammed with politics – left, right and centre. The Kennedys, the Clintons, John Howard, Helen Clark, Barack Obama, Nelson Mandela.

His fanboying of Obama verges on embarrassing. He rates Obama’s 2008 Hope and Change Presidential election campaign as the most successful ever. Luxon has met Obama a few times. The first occasion sounds like a stalker’s tale. Luxon was in Chicago and found himself standing in line next to Obama, waiting for a shoe shine. Luxon struck up a conversation with Obama, who was in the Illinois Senate at the time, well before becoming President.

Then, in 2018, as CEO of the national carrier, Luxon helped bring Obama to New Zealand for a tourism promotion, which was widely criticised as a waste of money.”
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June 7, 2022 9:12am
- cmm
  
  ” The white bookcase is crammed with politics – left, right and centre”
  
  I don’t see any right in that, but I do see at least one commie. John Howard was centre right, not right.
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:24am
  - mawm
    
    You can’t possibly be referring to the one who was elected to the Central Committee of the SACP? He’s a saint.
    
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    June 7, 2022 1:13pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  This is another bullshit attempt to slow the diving popularity of the worst government in our history, as I remember, Luxon left his job as PM business advisor because the state of the country, he is totally opposed to the rotten way this country is run, they call him a centrist, why the hell then would he want to be involved with a rotten hard left Marxist regime
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:33am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Nothing more than you’d expect from Guyon Espiner…
    
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    June 7, 2022 11:13am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Sun Tzu. Know your enemy G. If you haven’t read books by leftists, you should. And reading them doesn’t make you involved with them. It makes you well read with the corresponding insights to be able to deal with issues.
    
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    June 7, 2022 1:03pm
- leoj
  
  Who knew that te reo Luxon is an Obama fanboy, as was key.
  Yet another reason to avoid National.
  They may right of Labour but still left of centre.
  
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  June 7, 2022 11:33am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I note the same Artois on more than one media shithole site, a clear sign it is an organised attack, 7th of June.’, I am pretty sure Morgan comes out on the 7th of the month, it could be TPU but Morgan usually comes first
  
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  June 7, 2022 12:19pm
- NoFax
  
  Obama’s “Hope and Change” campaign was one of the most successful I have ever seen. It’s just the 8 years in the White House was a failure. That should be the real lesson for any politician.
  
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  June 7, 2022 2:27pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He had today called this crap of going to labour to stand for parliament an utter lie, he steps he has been in the young Nats snd been a bat supporter since he left uni
  
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  June 7, 2022 4:12pm
Rusty

TV One and THREE have shown their true colours over the weekend by not showing the Queens Platinum celebrations live and in the case of TV One showing delayed coverage highlights and not telling their viewers what time it was on.

Probably not surprising considering the majority of our MSM are anti-monarchists and pro-republicans.

I see the new Labour govt in Aust has set up a republican discussion think tank headed by Peter Fitzsimmons who are anticipating the Queen will kick the bucket in the near future.
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June 7, 2022 9:12am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Interesting about Aussie’s Labor Party.
  I was reading where 1975 could have been defined as one of the most important years in Betty Windsor’s reign. It was the year her Aussie representative emphatically pointed out that politicians are there at the Monarch’s whim. The Governor General dissolved parliament and the Liberals metaphorically shit in by a huge margin. Labor Party apparatchiks have never ever forgotten that.
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:38am
  - Inandout
    
    TN, hence the famous quote:
    ‘Well may we say ‘God save the Queen’, because nothing will save the Governor-General’.
    Gough Whitlam
    
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    June 7, 2022 10:15am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  And Newshub promoting republican with a poll that kicked them in the slats
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:35am
- MCōs
  
  I watched some bits and on one of the Sky channels that seemed to broadcast everything live, including poor old Boris getting booed as he walked into St Paul’s.
  Having said that it’s a rare PM who doesn’t get heckled when they go somewhere where there’s a crowd these days.
  Its obvious that Australia will shortly become a republic and hopefully NZ will soon follow.
  It’s twenty years since our Head of State has been out here; understandably considering her age. Charles doesn’t seem to like us and vice versa.
  
  QEII has been Queen of NZ for 70yrs too plus a number of other countries. Does anyone over there care? They had Americans in their concert, but no Midnight Oil or Hamilton County Bluegrass Band.
  America tossed out the Poms on 4-July, 1776 and have coped remarkably well despite 46 Presidents.
  
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  June 7, 2022 5:37pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfjnF6wBlfs
Kiwi Voice interviews to Tom O’Connor.

Tom O’Connor is a bit of a Kiwi Legend. He is a Kiwi Historian with deep knowledge of NZ history both pre and post Treaty. He has written several historic novels, including “Our Darkest Day” in 2019 that documents the tragedy of the Christchurch Mosque shooting in March of that year. As a member of the NZ Order of Merit for services to Journalism, I was privileged to be able to have in-depth discussions with Tom around Co-Governance, Democracy and our treaty history. Part 1 of 2 Co-Governance and Democracy. [I guess he won’t get a ob offer from the team of 55 million. // 40:57]
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June 7, 2022 9:23am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KljuGVt2Acw
Indian Leader Crushes Fourth Reich Hypocrisy as New Political Order Rises!

We’re going to see how a major representative from India called out the utter hypocrisy of the liberal European Union and devastated every globalist in the room, and in doing so, he’s going to show all of us the new world that is rising right before our very eyes, where ancient civilizations are reawakening and remaking the global political order. [17:18]
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June 7, 2022 9:24am
Yvette

‘Peter Ellis did not abuse our child’

It is now nearly three decades since the girl’s retraction
and no one from New Zealand’s Justice department
has ever spoken to her or her family about it.

Peter Ellis died in September 2019
His appeal at the Supreme Court went ahead in 2021.
The Judgement is due in the coming months.

– video, end titles, about 18 minutes in
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/peter-ellis-did-not-abuse-our-child
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June 7, 2022 9:27am
- KKKKatee
  
  Quite frankly, the Drs were the sexual abusers, holding little kids down, poking measuring tools in their little vaginas to establish if penetration had taken place. If they hadn’t been penetrated by Ellis, then these poor kids were legally penetrated by Drs in white coats. My Dr friend agrees with me. It was disgusting. My understanding is that parents weren’t allowed in the examination room to comfort their kids. I may be wrong. I think that was touched on in the book.
  
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  June 7, 2022 2:38pm
Maggie Pie

My partner’s mum reckons they need to start giving this cheeky-little-shit a good clip around the ear…..before it’s too late 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1533478115112112131
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June 7, 2022 9:31am
- MCōs
  
  She can’t hit him. He’s fifth in line to the throne. She’s nothing.
  If you go down the list far enough at #31 is Senna Lewis of Ngati Ruapani.
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:30am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Imagine how much better the ginga might have turned out if Diana had administered a few sharp whacks around his arse.
    
    Didn’t do my partner any harm.
    
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    June 7, 2022 12:05pm
    - Frank the tank
      
      I blame the Obamas – it was all down hill from there….
      
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      June 7, 2022 3:54pm
    - rangitoto
      
      We don’t really want to know what you were doing last night.
      
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      June 7, 2022 3:59pm
- mogg
  
  I would like to see media reaction had she have given him a clip on the ear at the time.
  
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  June 7, 2022 1:21pm
Yvette

Gangs, drive-by shootings, sometimes the wrong house – so an uninvolved home

Front line officers seem to have been frustrated by Coster for a while.
They apparently call him ‘The Lantern’: very bright but needs carrying.
They roll their eyes when he starts banging on about policing by consent.
They didn’t want to babysit iwi-led checkpoints, they don’t want to be called racists and they don’t want to be stopped from cracking down on crime because he prefers a softer approach.
– Heather du Plessis-Allan
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/opinion/heather-du-plessis-allan-was-it-a-slip-of-the-tongue-from-andrew-coster-or-an-insight-into-his-thinking/?dicbo=v2-103d5f084f9a66124898f54529016217
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June 7, 2022 10:00am
tknorriss

I would like to nominate ANZ as my candidate for “woke organisation of the year”.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/128873512/anz-introduces-paid-gender-affirmation-leave-for-staff

For anyone who banks with ANZ, just so long as you know this is the sort of rubbish you are helping fund.
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June 7, 2022 10:11am
- tknorriss
  
  Sounds like a great way to get some extra holidays though…. “I just want to take some time off to confirm my gender is still the same….”
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:17am
- leoj
  
  Puts a whole new meaning on: Go woke, go broke.
  A bank going broke…
  Hope to see customers leaving in droves.
  
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  June 7, 2022 11:38am
Maggie Pie

MAGA!!

President Trump’s pick for VP in 2024.

https://twitter.com/Yolo304741/status/1532474602210877452
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June 7, 2022 10:29am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Holly shit
  
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  June 7, 2022 10:40am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    YUP ….that gals on FIRE!! 😀
    
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    June 7, 2022 11:16am
- Frank the tank
  
  Stop it – you’ll give Bat an aneurysm.
  
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  June 7, 2022 11:29am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Bugger the foolish bat 😃👍🏻
    
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    June 7, 2022 12:23pm
  - Batman
    
    The only thing Boebert gives me is a strengthened core from laughing at her stupidity.
    
    I’m sure you love to hear that, Frank 😉
    
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    June 7, 2022 12:57pm
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Yikes! Lauren Boebert. Not the sharpest tack in the box. I’m with you Batman. Could she be considered the AOC of the Republicans?
      Although, when it comes to IQ, if rapper Cardi-B ever makes good on her threat to run for office, she will, hand’s down, be the lowest IQ person to take office in American history. She really is that stupid.
      
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      June 7, 2022 1:10pm
      - Batman
        
        I think Ms B said that once on an Instagram story or something. I think we’re safe from that being inflicted on us 🤣
        
        I would suggest that Boebert is more stupid than AOC, academically speaking. That doesn’t mean I think that AOC has any good ideas!
        
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        June 7, 2022 1:35pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Judging by your gullibility its pot kettle black you calling them low IQ
        Russia Russia Russia!
        Lol
        
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        June 7, 2022 2:03pm
      - Jack5
        
        In🦇Batty’s 1.35 post: …I think Ms B said …
        
        So Batwoman is married to Batman, but retains the Ms honorific?
        
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        June 7, 2022 4:02pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        She was calling out corruption, why do you lot excuse leftie corruption
        
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        June 7, 2022 4:16pm
      - Batman
        
        Bugger me you’re a bunch of snowflakes looking to score a win. Why are you so obsessed with me??! 😉
        
        Red – move on man, it’s kinda sad.
        
        Jack – I was joking about Cardi B being classy. Don’t be a petty little jerk.
        
        G – was she? You’re paying more attention than me. Good on her if she was calling something out (if it was true and not the made up kind).
        
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        June 7, 2022 6:06pm
    - Frank the tank
      
      More of a fan of Kristi Noem myself.
      
      Good to see you are taking care of yourself Bat.
      
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      June 7, 2022 4:00pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      You do understand was stating facts ffs, why do you lefties have one blind eye
      
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      June 7, 2022 4:15pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        You mean a bit like Canterbury supporters ? 😆
        
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        June 7, 2022 5:22pm
- mogg
  
  A Jacinda with better grammar, fluency and brains.
  No tired old platitudes or cliche’ in that.
  
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  June 7, 2022 1:41pm
- curry4me
  
  Cool Candace can do HHS.
  
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  June 7, 2022 2:32pm
Captain Mainwaring

Does anyone in Lower Hutt know if the Hutt News is still a thing?
I haven’t seen one for months and the online contact details are at least a year old.
Too bad if they’re still selling advertising and nobody’s seeing it.
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June 7, 2022 11:25am
- Inandout
  
  CM, our local rag (NZ Herald owned) was hit and miss until the Jacinda bought their loyalty and then deliveries resumed more or less continually. Many full page ads for covid and feel good vaccine stories. The timing was so evident.
  
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  June 7, 2022 11:57am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  You don’t need news in the Hutt Captain, you know what it will be. Weather windy with cloud and probability of rain, petty crime here and there (woman has handbag stolen) stabbing at tinny house, Maori racially abused, Petone lose again, business closes down, staff out of work, misery. There, print that, and look at it each day and you won’t be far off.
  
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  June 7, 2022 1:14pm
  - MCōs
    
    I had a seven week contract job in the offices of the Hutt Valley Drainage Board about forty years ago.
    Hands down the most excruciatingly dull place I or anyone else involved in civil work ever endured.
    I also had a minor tutoring job for a couple of semesters at the CIT in Petone. That was pretty woeful, too, but that was because I was press ganged into doing the work against my will by my employers.
    A lot of the tutors walked around with vacant stares, but not the guy who’d managed to convince the institution to buy a big 3D modeler machine.
    
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    June 7, 2022 6:08pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      CIT was in Trentham. Hutt Valley Poly was in Petone.
      
      When Wellington Poly was ‘merged’ with Massey, HVP saw their chance & grabbed the WelTec name.
      
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      June 7, 2022 7:49pm
Maggie Pie

As I’ve opined on numerous occasions, under this government New Zealand has become nothing more than a ‘Free-Range-Asylum’

In fact I don’t think we’ve actually got a ‘gun problem’.
I honestly believe it’s more of a…. ‘crazy problem’.

Just saying.
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June 7, 2022 12:01pm
- alloytoo
  
  2 Billions dollars for no measurable results……
  
  Just saying.
  
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  June 7, 2022 12:51pm
cas

As I threw away the little plastic spoon which came inside my mee goreng noodles, I thought that we haven’t heard much lately about how the Govt has saved the country from plastics. Too embarrassed because of all the PPE stuff?
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June 7, 2022 12:09pm
Nookin

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128849384/man-who-spent-19-years-in-jail-for-murder-was-wrongfully-convicted-crown-admits

It is difficult to see how Mr. Hall found himself in this position without blatant criminal intervention from the police and/or others involved in the investigation and trial. Evidence was falsified and the correct (exculpatory) facts hidden. Heads need to roll. Somehow, though, I do not see it happening.
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June 7, 2022 12:44pm
Nookin

Some more about the Hall case.
Why has it taken so long to be sorted?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/arthur-easton-case-the-missing-Evidence/XZV5EFEB6UFWWK5SUU4EKL35AU/
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June 7, 2022 12:52pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Why has it taken so long to be sorted?
  Lower/working class family.
  
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  June 7, 2022 1:24pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

What an amazing coincidence!!

It was only last week one of the girls at tennis brought up the Ingham Twins.
At the time her heroes she reckoned.

https://twitter.com/1NewsNZ/status/1533974717878632450
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June 7, 2022 1:01pm
Nickc2

Honestly, you couldn’t make this shit up. It was reported earlier today that Cindy said her Govt had been working on a solution to gang violence and shootings for some time but it was too early to release their findings. She went on to say their solution will be ready for release in two or three weeks.
I say “pig’s arse” to that, more effin lies! She came home from her trip to the US and found the country just as she left it, a South Pacific shit hole where gangs run riot and kids steal cars and do ram raids while the Police do zip!
It’s only now that some of the MSM but mainly Blog Sites and Podcasts are publishing the truth that she’s decided to try and find a solution.
Well, good luck with that. I doubt she will adopt the Australian (Queensland) solution, just because that’s what National is asking for.
Then again, maybe she picked up a few tips from Biden with regard to how he’s dealing with mass shootings in schools eh?
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June 7, 2022 1:07pm
- Gravelroad
  
  Their only “solution” will be to give the gangs, their families and associates more money and status.
  The gangs have got the Labour Party right where they want them – ready to bribe them to behave.
  It won’t work.
  
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  June 7, 2022 3:05pm
- JerJer
  
  Her solution to the cost of living crisis was to give people in need a one off 350 bucks. Not that it would actually achieve anything.
  
  I have recently learned that even though my salary is likely more than Cindy, our family will get the damn payment.
  
  Turns out that it is done on individual taxpayer income rather than family income.
  
  So, all the rich pricks out there with wives that work a day a week whilst bringing up your kids, you are all entitled to Cindy’s cost of living crisis solution.
  
  Woohoo. That right there is a silly Cindy solution.
  
  Never underestimate Cindy and producing the most unbelievably stupid solution to a serious problem. Solution to the gang problem will probably be to pay the gangs oodles of cash to play nicer with the law abiding public……actually hasn’t she done that once already…
  
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  June 7, 2022 4:58pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Watch this and tell me if you see anything similar.
https://rumble.com/v177y5v-theres-a-fella-by-the-name-of-brandon….-gov.-desantis-torches-failing-bid.html?
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June 7, 2022 1:34pm
- Don Beckett
  
  Brandon ———-Brenda. Same action, Same result. The WEF hymn sheet.
  
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  June 7, 2022 2:51pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING ZBNews @1:00

‘Study shows attractive people spend less time interacting with those they consider to be unattractive’

Why they’d need to do a ‘study’ into that is beyond me…..
everyone we know could have told them that for free 😀
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June 7, 2022 1:45pm
- Don Beckett
  
  Yep, even the unattractive could tell you that. 😉
  
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  June 7, 2022 2:52pm
- cmm
  
  These “studies” are typically the bullshit that comes out of social studies degrees.
  
  The students have to find some subject to turn into a study and make a few pie charts for their PowerPoints, then get to use fancy terms like “mean” and “standard deviation”. It is quite common to use trite examples such as these.
  
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  June 7, 2022 3:03pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yeah, but what if you are unattractive and filthy rich?
  
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  June 7, 2022 3:31pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    It’s the width of the wallet that counts, not sure us looks. So ugly men can get chicks.
    
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    June 7, 2022 5:42pm
    - cjn
      
      Onasis got Jackie Kennedy.
      
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      June 7, 2022 9:00pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Don’t say short people got no reason to live Maggie? Did Randy Newman have it right all those years ago?
  
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  June 7, 2022 5:34pm
  - greybeard
    
    Short people get to become dictators ( Napoleon , Muldoon ),
    coach cricket teams ( McCullum ),
    are elected MPs ( Little, Peters ),
    become film stars ( Cruise , de Vito ).
    
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    June 7, 2022 8:03pm
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Muldoon a dictator greybeard. What colour is the sky on your planet pal?
      
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      June 7, 2022 9:26pm
Nickc2

How China views its South Pacific excursions in its own words.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2022/06/how-china-views-its-recent-south-pacific-excursions-in-its-own-words.html
Make of it what you will!
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June 7, 2022 2:00pm
krazykiwi

Some material for anyone who has been following Novavax: Some thoughts on the FDA’s briefing document for the Novavax EUA application

Disclosure: I’m long NVAX but currently considering quitting my position, down circa 20%
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June 7, 2022 2:10pm
- kevn
  
  @kk… Interesting, in a bad way.
  How do you go with a Valneva option?
  
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  June 7, 2022 4:03pm
- Hebe123
  
  Great article – thanks
  
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  June 7, 2022 9:14pm
Maggie Pie

One of the girls from tennis retweets….

“With his sparkling blue eyes, smooth skin and wry smile, Christopher Luxon brings a sexual-magnetism not common in recent National Party leaders”

😀
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June 7, 2022 2:54pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s all those sex hormones bald men have.
  
  https://www.imaware.health/blog/how-testosterone-affects-hair-loss-in-men
  
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  June 7, 2022 3:30pm
Maggie Pie

*BETTER-WORK-STORIES*

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1534001937603264512

😀 😀 😀
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June 7, 2022 3:18pm
Tauhei Notts

I read on Newshub that a Give A Little page raised $18000 for a recently murdered person. The funds would be used to pay off the deceased’s student loan, and pay funeral expenses.
I understood that Student Loans were erased at the time of death. Please tell me if I have got that wrong.
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June 7, 2022 3:31pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  They “may” be erased by Inland Revenue.
  
  If a borrower dies before they’ve paid off their Student Loan, any balance may be written off by Inland Revenue.
  https://www.studylink.govt.nz/about-studylink/services/death-of-a-student.html#:~:text=If%20a%20borrower%20dies%20before,be%20created%20for%20any%20overpayments.
  
  But it looks as if it is standard practice for Student Loan balance to be written off at death.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/119397157/new-zealanders-carrying-student-loans-until-they-die
  
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  June 7, 2022 3:47pm
Jack5

What the taxpayers’ tens of millions of dollars are buying in Ardern’s buy-off of the media.

This article is not regional news that the scheme is supposed to support. Nor is it news at all.

It is racial propaganda; it is Ardernist-paid, separationist twaddle.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/300604168/mori-rangatahi-you-are-more-than-a-statistic
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June 7, 2022 3:56pm
Maggie Pie

Things that make you go hmmm….

Sounds like Billary might be getting a wee bit sloppy?

https://twitter.com/AnOpenSecret/status/1534000351975813121
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June 7, 2022 4:08pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Yeech. I’m not sure I will be able to hold my dinner down. She’s a bit bloody old for that Maggie…….
  
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  June 7, 2022 5:38pm
fernglas

In a press release in mid-May, Stats NZ announced a provisional nett migration loss of 7,300 people in the year to 31 March 2022, the lowest nett migration figure since 2012. In a February paper to Immigration minister Kris Faafoi, MBIE estimated that somewhere around 50,000 New Zealanders would leave the country in the next year, with an “upper limit” of 125,000 people, or 2.5% of the population, of whom 100,000 would be of working age.

New Zealand already has one of the highest diasporas in the OECD, second only to Ireland, with 16% of people born in New Zealand living in another OECD country. The generally accepted figure is of about a million New Zealanders living overseas to five million in the country. The OECD figures relate only to those born in New Zealand, rather than citizens.

Covid, with its restrictions on travel and movement, has obviously created a pent-up demand for overseas travel and migration, and coupled with a high cost of living, unaffordable housing and poor wages, there is an obvious risk of the country losing a large number of its working population now that the borders are re-opening. But how many have gone and will go?

It is interesting to compare NZ Customs passenger arrival and departure figures with the figures from both Stats and MBIE. During the year to 31 March 2022, Stats showed a nett migration loss of 7300. But over the same period, Customs figures showed arrivals at 389,680, with departures at 473,580. The nett loss on Customs figures is 83,900, and this during a period when travel was heavily restricted because of MIQ and lockdowns.

Now that the border has opened, the number of people travelling internationally has grown. In April 2021, about 39,000 people left, compared to April 2022 when the number of departures was over 141,000. The increase in departures is about 375%, a figure which, if applied to the figures for the year ending in March 2022, would have resulted in a nett loss of close to 315,000 people.

Since the end of the March year, the figures for the nett loss have been 16,310 for April, 6500 for May and a further 6000 plus in the first six days of June. Extrapolated out, it seems clear that the nett loss to this country this year is likely to be around the MBIE top figure for departures alone.

It is trite to dismiss these figures, as the Prime Minister has sought to do, as young people doing their OE who will bring skills and experience back to New Zealand. Those losses are immediate, and will not be replaced by immigration, nor will the skills and ambition that are being taken overseas. Even if 16% of those people remain overseas, the loss to the country could be in the order of 50,000 per year. In a country that struggles with productivity, it is not enough to simply write emigration off as something that has always happened. New Zealand needs to retain its people, not, as has been observed, for them to be its greatest
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June 7, 2022 5:20pm
- fernglas
  
  “greatest export”
  
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  June 7, 2022 5:36pm
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  A close friend flew ex UK via Dubai & KL to NZ over the weekend. His observations:
  
  * plane only a third full ex LHR. Got three seats in a row to lie down
  * piles got on in Dubai, all got off in KL
  * busy-ish KL to Akld, most of them Indians
  
  Not much sign of Kiwis returning from their OE
  
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  June 7, 2022 7:56pm
Hugh Jarse

One person shot by Police in Wellington this afternoon, shortly after a body was found in a nearby reserve. A patched King Cobra gang member comes to the cordon for the Police shooting and abuses Police. Should we have a go at “joining the dots “ ?. Yesterday a shooting in Christchurch with one injured, on Saturday a shooting victim found critically injured in West Auckland and has since died, and an elderly woman found murdered in Onehunga. Have I missed any ?. The new Justice, prison early release and Policing policies are working a treat.
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June 7, 2022 5:56pm
Batman

Navarro was mentioned this morning but I just saw that the night before he was detained for contempt, he went on Ari Melber’s show on MSNBC (where he goes to confess crimes) and said he would gladly go to prison for his Jan 6 ‘Green Bay Sweep’ plan!

Talk about tempting fate 😂 I guess he fucked around and is now finding out, as they say in the US.
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June 7, 2022 6:12pm
ex-golfer

So “Maori” want answers from the Ministry of Health as to why their vaccination rates were incorrectly reported and are not as high as we’ve been told.

Well I want answers too:
1. What did you do with all the extra millions of dollars spent specifically on Maori vaccination?
2. Why are Maori refusing to be vaccinated, despite all the extra millions of dollars?
3. If you want answers, why don’t you ask your own people?
4. Does this prove, once again, that spending money specifically on targeted Maori activities is a waste of money?
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June 7, 2022 6:18pm
Inandout

Please can we make this man our Minister of Native Affairs (or whatever it is called now). NZ would save billions of dollars worth of grievances.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PW9rg-mqY0
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June 7, 2022 7:15pm
Maggie Pie

Is ‘buttcheeks’ one word or do you spread them apart?

Asking for a friend.
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