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peterwn

Got a phone call to do a survey. Asked if the Wellington City Council is going in the right direction I said ‘no’. I then asked the woman if the survey was for Paul Eagle and to my surprise she said ‘yes’ (those doing surveys do not usually indicate the client). I asked if Paul was standing for Labour and she said he was standing as an independent. I asked if he was still a member of the Labour Party and she said no. So I asked if he was now an independent MP for Rongotai and she said he was still its Labour MP. I then said that if he was standing for Mayor as an independent then he was no longer a member of the Labour Party under its rules, so how could he still be the Labour MP for Rongotai. I chose not to complicate matters by asking whether Jacinda was going to eject him under the Waka Hopper rules. As it was the poor woman was totally confused. So Labour is presumably quite happy not to enforce its rules against a Labour MP who chooses to stand as an independent candidate for the Mayoralty. After all, it seems that Paul is the Labour mayoral candidate in all but name. Perhaps Robbo has someone else in mind for Rongotai.
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July 7, 2022 8:03am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Firstly I have been polled 3 times, the pollsters usually always say who they are polling for, it is possibly part of the rules that the people must know. Secondly, if he is not in the Labour Party, then he is not a Labour Mp meaning he must force a by-election, you must be a party member to be an mp
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:07am
  - pdm
    
    `you must be a party member to be an mp.’
    
    Especially a Labour party member.
    
    Then again most Labour MPs are skilled verbal contortionists.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:40am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I am sure you can only stand for parliament if you are a party member, I seem to remember Brash having to quickly join ACT to be able to stand at an election
      
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      July 7, 2022 11:04am
      - MaxG
        
        Anyone can stand for Parliament in an electorate (as long as you are enrolled to vote and also a New Zealand citizen; and you can get two voters in the electorate to nominate you. You must be on a (registered) party list to become a list MP. Info is here: https://elections.nz/guidance-and-rules/for-candidates/becoming-a-candidate-in-a-general-election/.
        
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        July 7, 2022 2:31pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Good term, “verbal contortionists”
      Who do you think is the best/worst (same)
      
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      July 7, 2022 3:56pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Honestly I don’t think there is anything wrong with a council candidate being a member of a political party. Phil Goff did exactly the same. If you run as a Labour candidate you are bound to follow Labour policy. If you run as an independent you are not bound to do anything, but everyone understands you are more likely to support the kinds of policies that Labour supports. There is nothing sneaky or dishonest about that.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:15am
  - Gordon Shumway
    
    We saw the consequences of a Labour-aligned Mayor of Auckland during COVID. Goff has consistently been timid advocating for Auckland’s interests when they conflict with central government’s overall programme.
    
    Scope creep at local body level and the Labour-alignment of some office-holders are TERRIBLE for the future of NZ.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:29am
  - RoboRob
    
    No. In a normal world if you run as an independant you are saying that you have no party affiliation and that your policies are based on your views. These could be left or right or anywhere inbetween.
    
    The Labour / Left politicians have ruined this with their continued lies around independance. So many of the so called independants are still paid up Labour party members who strictly follow the lead of the Labour party. Phil goff, independant mayor of Auckland, is essentially the labour party minister for Auckland. If these people are not labour candidates why is the labour party spending so much time and money supporting them?
    
    Nothing wrong with being the member of a party. The issue is the labour party members ‘lie’ that you are independant. Part of the agreement to be a party member is to always support Labour policy.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:29am
  - Caine9
    
    I don’t agree that there is nothing dishonest or sneaky about it.
    As part of the inner circle, the likes of Goff are expected to incorporate Labour Party ideas and upcoming strategies whether or not they are declared policy.
    Policy is public, and the behind the scenes stuff is where the damage is done, out of view of the public.
    Aligned local government is about national government controling local government and using it to prepare the Great Unwashed for upcoming central government policy.
    The great global warming con, the declared “Climate Emergency” is a case in point.
    Idiotic Labour policy, both declared and undeclared strategies being adopted by aligned local governments.
    The idea that it does no harm simply isn’t true.
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:13am
  - Hebe123
    
    I think there is a problem. Wasn’t until recently that many people became aware that labour ticket means they MUST follow labour policy rather than working for the ratepayers.
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:21am
  - leoj
    
    So, you are a great believer in having one’s cake and eating it too.
    
    You must be a Labour voter.
    
    Go to the back of the class (wearing the fools cap).
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:53am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    But I bet Goff is still a member of Labour, the problem is he is a Labour Mp and not a member of the party
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:05am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Goff – sneaky – dishonest. Yeah they sort of fit together
    
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    July 7, 2022 3:58pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Goff – Independent my left tit.
    
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    July 7, 2022 4:00pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  peterwn bro – Here are some factors of life.
  
  1. Soaring Eagle will win the mayoralty of Wellington very easily
  2. Whoever Chief Robber(tson) stands in Rongotai will win with twice the majority
  3. Nobody, I mean nobody in NZ cares whether Labour follows its own rules or not
  4. Time to accept these universal facts and move on
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:57am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    “Nobody, I mean nobody in NZ cares whether Labour follows its own lies or not”
    Fixed it for you.
    
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    July 7, 2022 4:02pm
artemisia

COVID conspiracy theorist Alex Berenson banned from Twitter after posting anti-vaccine rant

Or maybe not as Twitter has acknowledged that the tweets should not have led to suspension and he has now been reinstated. Twitter said the ban was under its Covid-19 misinformation policy. That policy will be watched with interest ….

Alex Berenson is the author of Pandemia: How Coronavirus Hysteria Took Over Our Government, Rights, and Lives

OK then.

https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/covid-conspiracy-theorist-alex-berenson-banned-from-twitter-after-posting-anti-vaccine-rant/articleshow/85740475.cms
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July 7, 2022 8:05am
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  The word “rant” is generally used when the “ranter” cannot be refuted on the basis of their argument. The idea is that the reader sees the word “rant” in the headline, and is thus psychologically predisposed towards taking a negative view of the content, regardless of its merit.
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:36am
Benedict Yu

Yesterday I heard Jacinda and the new COVID Minister answer questions about the growing case numbers. They were asked whether we would go to the red setting. They both gave the same answers.

The red setting would mean limiting numbers in gatherings and hospitality. To my astonishment this is what Jacinda said.

“”Would gathering limits right now make a marked difference to the case rates that we have? There is a real question mark over that particularly given that we are seeing those rates in some of our older New Zealanders. We know the biggest thing we can do to make a difference right now is mask use and vaccines, so that is what we are asking New Zealanders to do.”

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/07/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-says-no-expectation-nz-will-move-to-red-questions-whether-gathering-limits-would-make-marked-difference-anyway.html

Let’s break this down.

If gathering limits don’t work why did we have them for several months, destroying hospitality businesses and depriving people from attending funerals of their loved ones?

Then she says “masks and vaccines” are the things we will use to stop transmission.

The evidence on masks is mixed, at best. They may prevent transmission in some limited circumstances.

On vaccines, she is just plain lying. Those of us who are vaccinated got our last shots months ago. We now have no protection against infection compared to someone who is unvaccinated.

It is astonishing. Does she know that what she is saying are lies? Or is she just ignorant? And I am not splitting hairs here. She said that the “biggest thing” we can do to stop transmission is vaccines. We were all vaccinated months ago. They now don’t work. And those who are unvaccinated are not going to go get vaccinated now. 🤡

Jacinda knows that going to the red setting would be political death. And yesterday she tied herself in knots, admitting that capacity limits in hospitality don’t work. Despite having destroyed who knows how many restaurants and bars, and wiping billions off the economy.

Oh and I see now she is in Australia she is back to wearing K Mart clothes and that god awful coat. ☹️
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July 7, 2022 8:05am
- Nickc2
  
  That coat covers a lot of sins.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:16am
  - pdm
    
    Nick – the coat must have a lot of pockets from which she can extract the `Lie of the Day’.
    
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    July 7, 2022 8:42am
- Ruawai
  
  Spot on B Yu. And furthermore, if there is no difference between a boosted person and an unvaccinated persons immunity due to the vaccine wearing off and the 4th booster not being mandated for employment then the government should remove vaccine mandates for employment today. That will lead to more available staff.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:17am
  - pdm
    
    Rua- mrspdm and I had the first three jabs and have not had cviddespite those all around us having it.
    
    Luck I think, not the vaccine and we will not be having any further jabs.
    
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    July 7, 2022 8:44am
    - alex Masterley
      
      It’s luck purely and simply. I have had three jabs and have just had covid.
      I am not going to bother with any further jabs as well.
      
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      July 7, 2022 9:00am
      - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
        
        Why suddenly you are refusing to be a member of the team of 5 million? Cindy will be disappointed with your attitude Alex masterley….
        
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        July 7, 2022 9:59am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        SCS, many have ‘unsubscribed’ from the team of 5 million.
        It’s a bit like junkmail – bin it!
        
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        July 7, 2022 4:05pm
    - Hebe123
      
      I’ve had no jabs, just had covid and its been the mildest of anyone i know. I’m just on 50.
      One night (last night) of legs aching like i’d biked 150km. occasional stomach ache and occasional cough (but no sore throat). That’s IT.
      
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      July 7, 2022 10:35am
      - alloytoo
        
        The entire family is suffering from the Flu.
        
        Much worse than covid.
        
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        July 7, 2022 11:57am
      - MCōs
        
        Should’ve got flu jabs, Al
        
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        July 7, 2022 5:46pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Ruawai – a slight correction. There is a difference between boosted and unvaccinated immunity. Those who didn’t get the clot shot still have their natural immunity. As BY noted:
    
    “We now have no protection against infection compared to someone who is unvaccinated.”
    
    Those who got the shot have potentially got impaired innate immunity. At this stage I have no idea if that is permanent or not. I hope our bodies have the ability to repair the damage that has been done. But never forget who is responsible for cajoling, bribing, conning and bullying people into this experiment.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:54am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      “bullying”
      Those who opt out will not be punished!
      That lie is going to stick with her forever, like shit on a blanket
      
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      July 7, 2022 4:09pm
  - greybeard
    
    You should not use the word “immunity” when discussing CV19 vaccinations.
    Some radio ads use the words “immunity” and “immunise” and they are simply wrong.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:06am
- kevn
  
  Everyone I know who succumbed to the jab(s) have had covid.
  Time to ask for ‘our’ money back from fizzer.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:30am
  - Simon
    
    The jaxxed are getting reinfections. Someone told me the other day the got the covid for the second time and this time it really hit them. Yes they were boosted.
    
    Pandemic of the jaxxed.
    
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    July 7, 2022 8:45am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      “vaccination” – (has a word ever been so bastardised?) – is a path to constant reinfection of the latest strain of “covid” and calls for repeated “vaccinations”.
      It’s an even better business model than the one when you buy a $45 printer from Noel Leemings and then when you need to replace the cartridge 2 weeks later the refill costs $50. Epic.
      
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      July 7, 2022 9:58am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Printers! I was one of those who refilled cartridges or put in continuous ink supply. Then the bastards chipped them. Best buy a printer with it’s own tanks. Canon was about $500. Been there 2 years now.
        
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        July 7, 2022 4:15pm
  - Stellaboxer
    
    The only person in my sons house of 4 lodgers who hasn’t had Covid is himself and he is unvaccinated. Fact. They are bs. Biggest transfer of wealth from the public purse to the private sector in history and championed by the so called left. Any opposition made you a granny killer.
    
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    July 7, 2022 8:47am
  - Inandout
    
    kev, my wife and I got jabs in stereo to get the pox pass. Despite being approached in several places by a professional jabber imploring us to get a 4th booster (we haven’t had no.3) we are reasonably winter healthy. I am so glad we have been raised in times when diet was very important.
    
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    July 7, 2022 8:50am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    I succumbed very reluctantly to the jabs (I had an exceptionally well-paid temporary gig that would have made it very difficult to operate otherwise) and haven’t had it, that I know of anyway.
    
    My sweetheart, who almost as reluctantly was jabbed and boosted – also for work reasons – did get the Rona. She’d really rather not have to take the 2nd booster. We’ll see.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:52am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Don’t do it. There is zero gain.
      
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      July 7, 2022 10:02am
      - MCōs
        
        You’re the last person I’d take advice from, but that’s just me.
        No skin off your nose if it’s wrong.
        One thing I’ve found over the years is it’s best to take advice on anything from someone who has skin in the game.
        
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        July 7, 2022 5:59pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        She has a part-time gig which involves teaching cycle safety to children, and loves it. Loves working with the kids, and even though I pooh-poohed it when she started, on the basis that “we never had anyone teach us how to ride a bike when we were kids, what’s the world coming to etc” it really is very fulfilling and rewarding. So there’s that.
        
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        July 7, 2022 6:26pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        MCōs – Thanks for bringing up “skin in the game” – I hadn’t thought of pointing out that aspect.
        
        Surely I have the most “skin in the game”, my health and well being and that of my family is on the line? If Brenda and her experts Baker, Wiles et al are right and I am wrong then we’ll all die a horrible death? Isn’t that having “skin in the game”?
        
        Maybe you’re referring to Pfizer? They have plenty of “skin in the game”. Record profits for the most fraudulent and corrupt company in human history.
        
        Then there is the funding from the Bill an Melinda Gates Foundation and GAVI for our educational institutes, particularly the Infection Group at Otago University. You know, the one that’s home to Michael Baker and a couple of the other “experts” who keep popping up in our mainstream media to tell us how terrified we should be and how we all need to get more and more jabs of the Pfizer juice?
        Gates famously declared that vaccines were his greatest investment returning 20 dollars to every one he put in. No wonder he also funds GAVI! I suppose that’s “skin in the game”?
        
        Auckland University have a couple of vocal experts also. Wiles, Hendy, Jackson, Plank. Auckland University also receive funding The Gates Foundation as well as from the Wellcome Trust. An interesting organisation with a history of pursuance of eugenics policies. I suppose that’s “skin in the game”?
        
        Te Punaha Matatini, 6 million dollars from Ardern to produce “models” to confirm that this really, really is a scary, deadly, 80,000 bodies dropping in the street pandemic. Helps Ardern in her mission to do the will of the UN and WHO.
        When you start to look into it there really are an awful lot of people with “skin in the game”. Glad you pointed it out.
        
        You do what you want, that’s what free will is. But of course Ardern and her dwindling army of delusional followers don’t believe in free will do they? Thugs and bullies never do.
        
        Good luck with your 5th shot!
        
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        July 8, 2022 8:55am
  - stewmar
    
    Kevn, you don’t know me but I’ve had all three hands and still haven’t had Covid, nor has partner. Was your survey a scientific one?
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:48am
    - Don Beckett
      
      OTH, I have had no jabs, never wear a mask, mix with people all the time who have had covid – or they contract it the day or 2 after I have seen them, including family members – see people one day, and they tell me the next day they’ve got covid.
      I can only boil it down to the possibility that the covid virus really really hates me and doesn’t want a bar of me.
      After all, it’s a really really tricky little virus, doncha know. 🙂
      
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      July 7, 2022 2:02pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Either that or I’m a carrier. 😆
        
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        July 7, 2022 2:02pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yes Don. I used to tell my boss that. He has never had the flu he says. Told him he was the carrier – reason being, why would a virus want to get a person who is at home sick? Best infect a really healthy person who goes everywhere.
        The logic is there.
        
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        July 7, 2022 4:22pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Covid Don!
        
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        July 7, 2022 6:59pm
- Ross Campbell
  
  “Would gathering limits right now make a marked difference to the case numbers we have”.
  Obviously gathering limits were introduced when case numbers were low to try and slow the spread but now Covid is widespread the PM is probably right that the benefit now is negligible.
  However you extrapolate this situation to come to the conclusion that “gathering limits don’t work”.
  I agree, astonishing.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:30am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Er, no. We were kept at red for yonks due to high case numbers IIRC.
    
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    July 7, 2022 8:47am
  - Opie
    
    By that logic then, covid has become widespread with the use of masks and vaccines. Do we not need those now either?
    
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    July 7, 2022 8:52am
    - Ross Campbell
      
      For better or worst the government makes those decisions on our behalf and then we have to live with them but from a personal point of view I think the benefits of vaccination and masks are coming to the end of their shelf life as well and probably need to be put up for review.
      
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      July 7, 2022 9:44am
      - Zero Kindness
        
        Actually Ross, “…we have to live or die with them..”
        Unfortunately bad decisions i.e. vaccine coercion can be fatal, for many in this case.
        This government will be held responsible in due course.
        
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        July 7, 2022 11:01am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yes Mike
        
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        July 7, 2022 11:21am
      - Opie
        
        Your assuming they ever had any benefit but great you are starting to see the light.
        
        The sooner people stop hiding under the bed from this and not waiting for the next government instruction the better.
        
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        July 7, 2022 11:47am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        There was zero benefit of masks and vaccines and lockdown. Just despair, destruction and a massive erosion of civil liberties.
        
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        July 7, 2022 4:11pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      We don’t need them now. We’ve never needed them, well not for medical reasons anyway.
      
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      July 7, 2022 9:53am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes Mike
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:15am
- David Garrett
  
  Bene: You say “the evidence on masks is mixed”…to my mind the fact that we are seeing thousands of cases a day – over 10,000 yesterday – indicates they are totally or at least largely ineffective
  I believe a number of studies overseas indicate that at best i.e. with top quality masks worn properly- they might perhaps be 30% effective
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:35am
  - NK
    
    CDC has accepted they don’t work. The same CDC that our government follows slavishly re the *cough cough* vaccine.
    
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    July 7, 2022 8:57am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    There is way more than 10000 cases daily. They are just the folk who can be bothered logging into the covid portal and reporting their positive test result.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:07am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Masks are the same as putting up a wire mesh fence to keep out mosquitos
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:22am
    - David Garrett
      
      Steve: Yes…the comparison I have seen is “you might as well wear a dust mask made out of chicken wire”. Exactly the same point: the pores in the mask are 200 time bigger than the virus.
      
      Some people have argued that the droplets containing the virus are much larger; while that is obviously true, the case numbers surely speak for themselves.
      
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      July 7, 2022 10:24am
      - leoj
        
        50,000 times bigger……….
        
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        July 7, 2022 10:58am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I forget the numbers of N95 mask and Covid, but it is downright stupidity
        
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        July 7, 2022 11:23am
      - mawm
        
        David – the covid virus is aerosolised so the “droplet” size is infinitesimally small. The surgical masks that the government says we must wear were designed for surgeons leaning over an open operation and to prevent them spreading mainly bacteria in droplets from the nose and mouth.
        
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        July 7, 2022 2:35pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    DG – masks are ineffective enough that it is a fair comment to say they are completely useless. That in fact, they cause far more harm than any potential good. Face acne, rebreathing stale air, psychological damage etc etc.
    Anyone interested in very good analysis on the topic should look at this link. It is unbiased and references studies from the CDC and WHO among many others.
    
    “So far, most studies found little to no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks in the general population, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control.”
    
    https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
    
    Face masks are either a virtue signaling exercise, a badge of support for Brenda, or the clear evidence of a person traumatised by 2 years or more of brainwashing. Take your pick.
    
    I have never worn one. EVER. Nor has any of my family. We never will. When enough people take this position it ends.
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:08am
    - David Garrett
      
      Clan: Just out of interest, how does your family handle grocery shopping? Both supermarkets I shop at have mask wearing as a condition of entry. It is the only place I wear one.
      
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      July 7, 2022 10:26am
      - Hebe123
        
        you just walk in. Smile at the security guy and walk on. I have never been asked if i have an exemption at the supermarket.
        You just gotta man up. The first time it feels a bit subversive. I don’t even notice anymore, after 7 months of non-compliance.
        
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        July 7, 2022 10:42am
      - Ehlana
        
        I have noticed that despite having the signs up, the stores I go into are generally happy for me to be mask free. Unless someone is at the door enforcing it, I suspect you can use your local supermarket mask free if you want to.
        
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        July 7, 2022 10:44am
      - leoj
        
        Say you are exempt.
        
        That is the end of it. The security person is out of questions and the ONLY proof you need to provide is to the law (which they aren’t) or the MoH (which they aren’t).
        
        Bowl in, get your shopping done and walk out.
        
        Develop a spine.
        
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        July 7, 2022 11:01am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        DG – in the beginning when fear was at the peak we simply shopped online. Cost extra for freight but so be it. Then we would just walk in to any business unmasked. If anyone liked or said anything we simply say we’re exempt. If they make a fuss we politely say thank you and leave and try another place. It hasn’t been easy but we will never bow to this tyrant.
        In the last 6 months or so we have found nobody challenges us, even with all the signs up.
        It is very liberating once you get over the initial nerves.
        
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        July 7, 2022 4:15pm
  - Paulus
    
    And over 10,000 again today – Thursday.
    
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    July 7, 2022 1:44pm
- Matt Long
  
  According to Michael Wood Labour use common sense and logic rather than any particular evidence for decision making. (See DPF’s previous post.)
  This explains their evolving covid policy, it also shows common sense is really only a combination of intelligence and experience and where both intelligence and experience are absent common sense is a worthless concept.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:43am
  - Littletramp
    
    Common sense is in the eyes of the beholder.
    When have these fools proposed or shown common sense that made any sense at all?
    Truth is – their actions are all driven by politics.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:02am
    - stewmar
      
      Truth is – their actions are all driven by politics.
      
      Or vanity
      
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      July 7, 2022 11:00am
  - 103PapPap
    
    As American comedian Will Rogers once said: “The problem with common sense is that it is not all that common”.
    
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    July 7, 2022 1:42pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Ben – this is what the WEF want. The same lines are trotted out by the likes of Trudeau and Macron.
  
  It just shows our collective (non)intelligence that a good portion of the population believes this. BF Skinner, behaviorism and the associated concept of superstitious behavior to go far in explaining what has gone on in this country as does the strategies Goebbels used in Nazi Germany.
  
  This is social democracy in practice.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:55am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  It appears Michael Baker is blaming the fact he couldn’t get a fourth booster on the fact that he now has COVID…
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:59am
  - wgtn_dude
    
    Have a closer look at his Twitter feed … comedy gold!
    
    To quote the great one Baker: “I stand with triple vaccinated Ukrainian transsexuals”
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:59am
    - Lucia Maria
      
      There is a parody account that so closely follows what you’d expect the real guy to say, that it’s hard to tell. But the word “faker” in his account handle clues you in. He had the most brilliant conversation with some US people a while back wanting to debate him!
      
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      July 7, 2022 6:43pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The guy? is an oxygen thief sucking on Govt tit
    
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    July 7, 2022 4:37pm
- R
  
  Let’s face it, the PM isn’t going to say there is nothing more we can do to fight COVID. That would make the Government look weak and impotent. So they’re going to continue to say that we need to use masks and get vaccinated. But that ignores the fact that the vast majority of people are vaccinated.
  
  Looking at the Health Ministry’s numbers, more than 1.36 million NZers have caught the virus. Of these, 1.1 million had two or more doses of the vaccine. In fact, of those eligible for the vaccine, some 94.5% of those with the virus were fully vaccinated (2 or more shots). The rate of hospitalisation among the fully vaccinated is similar. The vaccine has been a dud. But since the Government invested so much in the vaccine being our saviour, don’t expect them to change course.
  
  https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-case-demographics#aug-2021
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:06am
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    Ardern is increasingly looking like Ceausescu standing on the balcony assuring the Romanian people that black is white and white is black, while the crowd knows the real situation and thus jeers and whistles at him. I cannot conceive how or why anyone takes anything her and her government say on Covid seriously. She and they are not acquainted with reality, and this disconnect cannot plausibly be due to ignorance, it can only be due to malice at this point.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:50am
    - mawm
      
      “The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they’re lying, they know we know they’re lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.” _ Attributed to A Solzhenitsyn and/or Elena Gorokhova
      
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      July 7, 2022 2:47pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      We are NOT going to whistle at Jaspinda.
      She is vain. Picked a song with lyrics for those who don’t know the words.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oyjnzBpe9I
      
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      July 7, 2022 4:43pm
- amospicton
  
  100% Benedict – and yet not a single journalist questions this. Could it be that they’re all bought and paid for sycophants?
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:13am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Very easy to tie someone like her in knots when the questions and answers are not scripted!
  Jaspinda is hiding out in Australia because she doesn’t want to face the music here. Question Time in the House would be a total shambles, but I would lie to watch it. Funny as fuck. She knows that we know that she is lying 80% of the time.
  Deep down she is planning how to fuck NZ over even more, but blame someone else.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:14am
- Lucia Maria
  
  Not lying as such – Jacinda Ardern would have to know what the truth was in order to lie. Instead, she is telling the story that is the most palatable to the most number of people, that also helps advance the fundamental goals: masking & more jabs. Everything else is wrap around in order to keep us masking & jabbing.
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:07am
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  While the traffic light system is utter garbage and a mere political tool for social manipulation, whenever the rules are tweaked (e.g. orange or red criteria are altered), it shows that it is all arbitrary and not based on any objective science or evidence-based reasoning. If they are tweaked, this means that the initial settings were incorrect (and thus we cannot “trust the science” that purportedly underlied the settings). If the gold standard are the statements and reasoning coming from the podium of truth, then whenever they change, the basis of the One Source of Truth is removed. If you paint yourself as infallible, then any fallibility at once negates this self-characterisation.
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:43am
- krazykiwi
  
  I have a working theory on what is going to happen here. Just as they have across the developed world, ‘leaders’ have painted themselves into a corner. The slavishly curated Narrative™ is rapidly coming apart, threatening the ascendancy of the hubris-filled trainee tyrants like Arden.
  
  The BA.5 variant is tearing into the vaccinated, but less so the unvaccinated who have already seen off an earlier Omicron variant, so blaming the ‘unvaccinated’ won’t cut it any more. There are too few, and the evidence of the strength of naturally-derived immunity is both well established in the general consciousness, and well supported by research.
  
  These hubris-filled trainee tyrants need a group to throw under the bus so they can show us their pleading hands, “We tried! But ‘this lot’ are to blame”.
  
  Who will ‘this lot’ be?
  
  Anyone game to guess?
  
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  July 7, 2022 1:10pm
  - Zero Kindness
    
    They will blame Trump (Operation Warp Speed), CDC, FDA, NIH, China, Twitter, Gates, Fauci, Health Ministry’s and bureaucrats.
    All of the above and anyone but themselves is my guess.
    
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    July 7, 2022 1:19pm
Tricati

So, the queen of mis-information strikes again. Taking a cheap shot at Scott Morrison and pissing into Albanese’s pocket over the rights of New Zealanders in OZ, only to find out she was wrong and it was actually Morrison’s government that implemented the changes back in February. Surely there must be an apology coming (sarc).
This after she lectures America on its constitution and gun control, pisses off the Chinese (our major trading partner), throws Beef & Lamb under the bus to get a Trade Deal with the EU for a photo opportunity.
She hides from a meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky, most likely to avoid having to commit to actual military assistance, but meets with British Royals to give them a Childs book for goodness’ sake.
The woman is an absolute embarrassment, but you wouldn’t guess it, given the current headlines in our MSM – Not sure who’s worse, Ardern or the MSM.
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July 7, 2022 8:06am
- NK
  
  “Not sure who’s worse – Ardern or the MSM”?
  
  Michael Baker is by far the worst.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:37am
  - Frank the tank
    
    I’ll raise you a Gav Hendy and his pink haired mate.
    
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    July 7, 2022 8:56am
    - Raphael
      
      They have been a bit quiet (I think their attack on other scientists went down like a lead balloon). Baker is the current goto advocate for extreme lockdowns
      
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      July 7, 2022 9:28am
    - pdm
      
      Plus a Jackson and a Plank.
      
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      July 7, 2022 9:44am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I don’t see how it any of our business how Australia runs its citizenship policies. New Zealanders shift there knowing the rules.
    
    The irony is that if Jacinda convinces the Australian government to make it easier for New Zealanders to become Australian citizens, there will be an avalanche of the best and brightest to Australia, never to return.
    
    She seems incapable of thinking things through.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:12am
    - septic skeptic
      
      It’s already easy for the best and brightest.
      
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      July 7, 2022 9:33am
    - [email protected]
      
      Maybe she doesn’t want the best and brightest around. They cause too much trouble.
      
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      July 7, 2022 12:49pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  What is it with the vulgar left? She smears anyone who can’t answer back, she knows damn well that Morrison personally stepped in to give NZers support, she is just a lying toadie
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:23am
- septic skeptic
  
  The Chinese are pretty pissed at Ardern’s comments at NATO. WTF was that all about? It’s not like she was pledging 10 billion in developmental aid around the pacific and looking for Oz, US and Japan to match that. And if she wanted to take a cheap shot to look relevant in front of NATO, why not just have a crack at Russia?
  Chinese news sources say that John Key and David Carter have been trying to smooth things over.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:32am
All_on_Red

Labour really are the worst Government I have ever seen. Their Ministers are all completely shit and incompetent.
Time was we could rely on the Public Service to help carry the can.
Unfortunately they seem just as crap.
Over 100,000 of them and they cant achieve anything.
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July 7, 2022 8:06am
- hullkiwi
  
  While I cannot disagree with you about the current government being bad, four others stand out as also being bad. Those being:
  1. The Palmer government 1988 to 1990; and
  2. The Bolger/Shipley/Peters farce 1996 to 1999
  3. The Kirk/Rowling government 1972 to 1975; and
  4. The Muldoon government 1981 to 1984.
  
  However, the above are small beer by comparison to the UK when they do bad. With that there is:
  1. The Major govt 1992 to 1997;
  2. The May government 2016 to 2019; and
  3. 2019 to now – the current shambles of Boris Johnson.
  
  Each one of the above governments (NZ & UK) plus the Ardern farce suffer or suffered the same problem, poor leadership, lacking honesty & integrity or any sense of why they were in govt, other than to keep the other lot out.
  
  In essence, none of these governments ever had anything to offer a country.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:24am
  - Cassandra
    
    At least all the other governments you list had some competent members. The Ardern government has none – everything it touches turns to dross. Bad governance, bad executive action and, staggeringly, bad politics.
    
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    July 7, 2022 8:42am
    - hullkiwi
      
      I concur that those governments I listed had some talent, but the Ardern government is serverly lacking in qualified and experienced people.
      
      However, all the government’s I listed failed because of a lack of good leadership. Each one of those governments were led by people who should never have got the top job.
      
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      July 7, 2022 8:55am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Good leadership. This is where National could fail. Luxon is a good manager, but not necessarily a good leader. National winning the next Election comes down to how much we want our worst ever Govt removed
        
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        July 7, 2022 9:34am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Scrolling through the comments and the word ‘dross’ I saw.
      In the engineering field ‘dross’ is something floating on top of molten metal. Galvanising – molten zinc (+other stuff) The dross is scraped to the end of the vat before the product is lifted out. At night (or when not operating) the dross is spread over the molten zinc as insulation to keep things warm.
      So back to your comment about “dross” What is Jaspinda keeping warm?????
      
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      July 7, 2022 4:56pm
  - pdm
    
    Yet Boris is making May look pretty good and she did draw the poinsened Brexit Straw after Cameron bailied.
    
    Actually I thought the Cameron/Osborne combination were initially very good.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:46am
    - pdm
      
      poisoned and bailed.
      
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      July 7, 2022 9:47am
  - Tom Hunter
    
    I have no recollection of the Kirk government but it seemed to be accepted even by more than a few Labour voters that they were pretty shit. I learned to hate Muldoon’s guts and when you’re a teenager even three years can be a loooonnnnngggg time.
    
    For a laugh I wrote up my voting history in The 80/20 purity rule so although I’m right-wing ideologically I’ll vote against my own interests if I think “my side” is shit useless.
    
    So having said that, and having voted for the Clark/Cullen team in ’99 because Shipley and co were so hopeless, I think I can fairly say that this Ardern-led government is the worst of my lifetime; the most useless, incompetent bunch of fucking cretins I have ever seen in power in NZ.
    
    Perhaps it’s some sort of end-stage thing with the Left (and perhaps The West), a result of there being no more worlds to conquer and only nonsense left to push? I say that on the basis that the Biden administration, Labor in Australia and Britain and the Euro-left in general, don’t seem to be faring much better.
    
    And that’s before we get to talking about the GOP, National, Boris and company. 🙂
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:25am
    - septic skeptic
      
      I can recall all of the Muldoon years, Kirk not so much. The current lot is way worse than any mentioned above. Shit management and zero delivery is one thing, but the promotion of racial division and race based “co-governance” is on a whole other level.
      
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      July 7, 2022 12:49pm
- amospicton
  
  Yes, it’s no great surprise how utterly hopeless the govt are although it never ceases to amaze, but the burgeoning bureaucracy’s ineptitude is almost as bad. Despite growth in numbers the output is terrible. Too much ideology.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:18am
smttc

I see our Prime Minister thought nothing of telling lies about and besmirching the previous Liberal government in Australia over NZ residents access to flood relief payments.

And when pulled up about it, refuses to apologise or correct the error.
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July 7, 2022 8:11am
- Nickc2
  
  There has been no retraction of this massive self-serving lie from the PM since it was revealed on both sides of the Tasman.
  I wonder if the Aust Govt will deport her back here under a 501 Order?
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:40am
- Ruawai
  
  Just like the KFC worker non apology.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:01am
  - Nickc2
    
    Living with her would be a nightmare.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:54am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Especially when Jethro likes staying at home
      
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      July 7, 2022 4:59pm
- pdm
  
  She is just doing what comes naturally smttc.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:11am
Maggie Pie

And my partners calling bullshit on this as well….

https://twitter.com/NewshubNZ/status/1544554521757511680
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July 7, 2022 8:12am
- All_on_Red
  
  Morons like NRT are echoing this narrative too.
  http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2022/07/the-real-cost-of-cars.html
  These people are insane with their constant clamouring about impending disasters.
  
  The ‘climate CRISIS’ – lol
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:20am
  - The Scunner Campbell
    
    Probably included suicides in the figures!
    
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    July 7, 2022 8:51am
- Nickc2
  
  He’s right. I heard some chickey babe on ZB this morning venting the evils of motor vehicle’s atmospheric pollution and at the end of her tirade, she was promoting a move to EVs. What’s the bet she’s a Govt paid shill from Otago University?
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:26am
  - Inandout
    
    Nick, the waiting list for EVs is akin to ICEs. They are ‘unavailable at present’.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:00am
    - Nickc2
      
      I wouldn’t have an EV in a fit!!!! With my cars’ ICE engines, I can hitch-hike to a Petrol Station and get a can of petrol if I run out of fuel. Try that with an EV eh?
      
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      July 7, 2022 9:59am
  - Ehlana
    
    Do those electric vehicles she advocates have tires and brake pads which wear over time, shedding pollutants onto the road (to be washed into the water ways) or as tiny particles into the air and her lungs?
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:47am
    - leoj
      
      What about mining for lithium?
      
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      July 7, 2022 11:05am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        What about mining for coal, shit coal, from Indonesia?
        
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        July 7, 2022 5:05pm
    - Nickc2
      
      Don’t stand in the way of truth when ‘Progressives’ are on a mission Ehlana. You could be canceled.
      
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      July 7, 2022 11:42am
    - alloytoo
      
      They have lithium-Ion batteries which will require replacement between 10-14 years after manufacture.
      
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      July 7, 2022 12:04pm
    - Paulus
      
      What about battery replacements.
      An EV has its batteries built into the chassis and the body put on top at manufacture.
      As many second hand EVs are being imported who is going to complain when they require new batteries – expected about 8 years old.
      The car has to be taken to pieces to replace the batteries.
      Um – very expensive – could be more than the cost of the car in the first place.
      
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      July 7, 2022 1:51pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Batteries, or whole cars can be dumped.
        All came out of the ground so it can go back in the ground.
        So can your gold wedding rings…..
        
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        July 7, 2022 5:07pm
- Raphael
  
  There were just over 32,000 deaths in 2021. Are they really claiming 10% of all deaths in NZ are from car pollution?
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:26am
  - I remember when
    
    Raphael:
    So if the average age of deaths has been rising over the years – does this mean car pollution is extending lives?
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:36am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  How about 3300 died with car pollution, but not because of car pollution?
  Lies by omission are same as Covid lies – and this Govt can tell some whoppers.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:42am
  - Yvette
    
    Steve
    New statistics show Invercargill is the deadliest place in New Zealand when it comes to air pollution – more dangerous than larger cities.
    It shows air pollution kills about 3300 people each year – with vehicle emissions responsible for two thirds of those, nearly 10 times the road death toll.
    Check out this map to see which areas have the highest air pollution
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/07/invercargill-the-deadliest-city-for-air-population-in-new-zealand.html
    
    But check “Check out this map” reveals –
    
    Invercargill City 74
    Auckland 939
    https://dashboards.instantatlas.com/viewer/report?appid=aa8464a2c1854b489f3f2a60a939e99f
    
    So something is up the wop – if you are still allowed to say that
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:30am
- Tomtoddy
  
  These are serious stats. I read that a high percentage of people who stopped breathing have also died. The government needs to do something about this.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:54am
  - Raphael
    
    And 100% of people who died had consumed Dihydrogen Monoxide within days of their death.
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:40am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Must check with Sue Kedgley on that
      
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      July 7, 2022 11:30am
Tony Stuart

Another lengthy but must-read Twitter thread with regard to the funding of a “suicide prevention programme” run by a company owned by William Gannin Ormsby, husband of Minister Nanaia Mahuta:

https://twitter.com/Record_Factory/status/1544722939270012930

The level of probity with public money by Te Puni Kokiri is nothing short of appalling. Firstly, they decided there was “no severe conflict of interest” in TPK giving money to the husband of a senior Minister in the Ardern government. If a minister’s own husband applying for tens of thousands of dollars of public monies in one of their own portfolios doesn’t qualify as a severe conflict, what does?

Secondly, the fund from which monies were paid is intended for “rangitahi aged 10 to 24 years”. The Ka Awatea proposal was targeted at those aged 18 to 35 years old. and thirdly, the funding application does not even mention suicide prevention; it was essentially an environmental programme.

The level of detail in the thread and the supporting documentation, obtained under the OIA, is impressive. Towards the end of the thread, the author writes:

I cannot think of any satisfactory option other than the Auditor-General investigating how public monies were given to the minister’s own family without TPK giving any consideration whatsoever to the serious conflict that was staring them in the face. It is appalling governance.

It is hard to disagree with that assessment. This matter should be investigated by the Auditor-General forthwith.
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July 7, 2022 8:17am
- JimBobJoe
  
  This is just how the Rangatira economy works Tony.
  
  Given National suck up to Maori Elites almost as much as Labour how is National going to put in place measures to stop this type of thing?
  
  Co-Governance is being pushed hard by Elite Maori in the Tribal Authorities – it will give them unprecedented power in NZ and from the power will flow Tonga like graft and corruption.
  
  And Co-Governance seems t be perfectly fine with National – oh sure they make noise about 3 Waters, but when someone like C Finlayson, one of Nationals former shining lights, comes out in favour of Co-Governance how can any voter trust National wont continue the trend?
  
  Obviously the trend would be managed in a more professional way by National – it is after all what they do, manage more professionally. But the trend will continue as all the trends towards a more fractured society, more centralised government control and more over hyped Maori cultural position in society promoted by the Left have continued for a few decades now.
  
  National needs to commit to and SELL a real platform of opportunity for all New Zealanders regardless of race or any other demographic divisive factor.
  
  And when in power move rapidly and forcibly to implement that platform:
  
  >One Rule of Law for all – get rid of thee stupid cultural reports that allow partner beating Gang members to get discounts because … because of their race
  >Smaller, much smaller, Government at the Central and Local Level
  >Local Government stripped of general competence and refocused on core functions – the waters and roads plus parks and reserves.
  >Radical reform of the RMA to allow business to actually get stuff done in reasonable timeframes. It is scandalous how long it takes to open up land for new house when the new housing area has any scale
  >Refocus the Human Rights Commission – nah get rid of the damn thing. It is a seat for haters of Europeans and European Culture. It promotes more division than harmony. If you need something in this area – redefine and limit to essential arbiters for genuine issues
  >Get rid of all the various Language weeks. they are not needed – just spaffing money for no reason
  >Reform and clean out senior government bureaucracy including the Public Service commission. Get rid of all the woke bs that pollutes the public service – it slows stuff down, wastes tax dollars and slows down essential functions of central government.
  
  Anyway Tony: I know National wont do any of this. They will just navigate us more efficiently into the third world back water Labour and the Greens want to make of us.
  
  National has lost its purpose of opposing Communism and that is what the current agenda of Labour and The Greens is all about just with some new wrinkles. The big wrinkle is not having to directly own the means of production, you just have to tie in regulatory knots, have more and more central government directives and tax the hell out of it.. Controlling the cash flow flowing from the means of production is every bit as good as controlling the actual assets/properties that make up the means of production. National is lost in middle manager complacency
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:42am
  - Scott
    
    JimBobJoe-great post. Couldn’t agree more.
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:25am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    At the recent Northern Regional Conference, Luxon said in his keynote speech that National is opposed to co-governance of public services. Whilst there has been no detailed policy released yet on what National plans to do as an alternative, I can assure you there will be well before the 2023 election.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:17am
    - Clownworld
      
      National and Labour are simply doing this at the United Nations whims for indigeneous rights. They are simply puppets or muppets doing the globalists bidding.
      
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      July 7, 2022 2:46pm
- I remember when
  
  TS:
  Looking at the Tao Taua Taiao flyers – surely there must be some DOC money available for their three day excursions.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:29am
- Paulus
  
  See Mahuta has now been designated to go to Fiji for the Pacific Island Forum Conference, as our Cindy is too busy to attend.
  
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  July 7, 2022 10:20am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    No, Mahuta has Covid, so Aupito William Su’a is going. I think the PM is calling in after her Australian visit ends.
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:45am
    - greybeard
      
      My interpretation is that Mahuta has been told not to go, probably at Helen Clark’s insistence.
      Jacinda is incapable of such decisions.
      
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      July 7, 2022 11:16am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Little song – kindy version so Jaspinda will understand.
      The team of 5 million must have a terrible disease.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX85gFIG9XA
      
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      July 7, 2022 5:20pm
  - Nookin
    
    The PM is calling in? Where?
    Not NZ, surely?
    
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    July 7, 2022 2:20pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  I can’t wait to see the scams and lack of accountability in the handing out of $$ by the new Maori Health authority en-mass.
  For Maori, by Maori, and scammed by Maori.
  Ancient Maori massage, goat sacrifice clinics, moon phase analysis….and all for only $300 per hour!
  
  New Mahuta-Ormsby business entities will pop up like mushrooms to hoover up that cash.
  And challenging efficacy, accounting or outcomes of Maori health contractors will be Waaaaaacist!
  
  In 10 years time Maori will be fatter and angrier and unhealthier, because the root causes of their over-representation in the worst statistics will not have been addressed.
  i.e. It is diabetes, not racism, which kills.
  But many other Maori will be laughing all the way to the bank, while media voices cry out for new solutions, great funding, and faster pace of power and wealth transfer.
  
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  July 7, 2022 12:14pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Recall the father of the year from yesterday’s conversation. Just bashed his pregnant partner, 16 kids & counting. He’s Maori, so they’re Maori.
    
    Doubtlessly they will grow up disadvantaged. Who will they blame? Dad? Or the Govt/ pakeha?
    
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    July 7, 2022 7:08pm
citychic

I see our PM is lying yet again during her tour of Australia.
She lauded the kind Labour government for enabling Kiwis living in Australia to access the flood assistance payment, and slammed the nasty ScoMo led government for not having this policy in the past.
Funny how my daughter and her partner were able to access this payment for the OLD floods in March. Neither of them are permanent residents yet.
I’m waiting for NZ journos to question and correct the PM on this “error”. Just saw the pink pigs flying past my window.
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July 7, 2022 8:17am
- zulumonster
  
  The justification I have seen from our MSM on this lie is that Albanese’s government have made the policy more explicit! As if that makes the BS statement from Ardern OK.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:11am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  See? Lies by omission again. It is an Art!
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:48am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Please citychic learn to use correct terms. There is no NZ journos in NZ. They are called “Bribe Partners”.
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:32am
- Paulus
  
  As usual she lies !
  
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  July 7, 2022 1:53pm
G152

Just a reminder/
If its a ‘news’ item in our media you can garantee its fake news
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July 7, 2022 8:20am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “Fake News” is copyrighted by Donald Trump, we need another term. How about “Fucking Lies?”
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:50am
  - dh
    
    Haha got to love Donald Trump. Wish he could become prime Minister of NZ. Cut through the bullshit and make nz great again. I get depressed how people in NZ keep voting for the most incompetent and weak people alive.
    
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    July 7, 2022 6:13pm
Tomtoddy

The attacks on Luxon continue unabated. The ninth floor comms are in overdrive. A few media, hand out for another “save-me-we-are-too-hopeless-to-be-profitable” grant must be spewing at having to go it alone without help from the taxpayers.

The hits on Luxon are up there with being attacked by a wet sheep but a constant dripping will wear away part of the stone.

It is so apparent that he gets 10 hits to JS’s 1 or 2. Power mongers fighting with their backs to the wall and going down big time.
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July 7, 2022 8:20am
- hullkiwi
  
  Have you also noted that the attacks ratchet up when PriNZess is abroad?
  
  It just goes to show the government don’t know how to govern, and the only way they stay relevant is by attacking Luxon. A formula that will really help the country, not!
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:28am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Is special K still running the shit show? If so, the attacks will be instigated by him.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:52am
- Matt Long
  
  Quite frankly if someone wants to be leader of the country they have to be able to overcome the yapping of the socialist dogs. Fairness doesn’t really come into it.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:33am
  - I remember when
    
    Better remove the advantage National have with party donations – that’s not fair.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:10am
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    If Luxon still gets attacked by the media even though he is a wet, limp-wristed centrist whose politics are fairly indistinct from those attacking him, he may as well go balls to the wall and adopt a positive right wing approach in line with what the silent majority actually want, instead of being someone who is slightly less-worse than those he nominal opponents. The problem with this is though, as I said above, he is a wet, limp-wristed centrist whose politics are fairly indistinct from those attacking him
    
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    July 7, 2022 12:01pm
    - mawm
      
      He’s a colourless blob. He has all the ammunition he needs to attack Labour – they just can’t help themselves, but all I hear is he’s keeping his powder dry, he’s saving it for the election campaign.
      
      FFS he is the leader of the opposition; his job is to hold the government to account. This government is destroying our country, dividing our society and racking up un-repayable amounts of debt…. and he has barely raised any criticism.
      
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      July 7, 2022 3:28pm
- NK
  
  Did you see the one on SpewsHub yesterday where they were complaining about him congratulating a school in his electorate, Tangaroa College?
  
  Perhaps the biggest non-story I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen a few.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:40am
  - Bridgenag
    
    Spewshub [like that] had a piece about an open letter from surgeons Tuesday night. Just flicking past and saw a bit. “Bet that is not on onewes” ………… Narda
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:13am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    If that is the dirt they have on Luxon, he can sleep easy.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:33am
kevn

Everyone I know who succumbed to the jab(s) have had covid.
Time to ask for ‘our’ money back from fizzer.
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July 7, 2022 8:31am
Tony Stuart

Jacinda Ardern made a major blunder yesterday when she praised the new Australian PM Albo for making flood relief payments to Kiwis living in Australia. She also took a swing at Scott Morrison, saying it was “pretty much the opposite” to what Scott Morrison would’ve done.

Oops. In February, Scott Morrison put in place a flood relief package, to which New Zealanders living in Australia were welcome to apply. Kudos to Jason Walls from Newstalk ZB for calling her out on this late yesterday when he chatted with HDPA.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/jason-walls-newstalk-zb-deputy-political-editor-on-australias-flood-assistance-for-kiwis/

The PM’s office has been advised of this error, but to date there has been no retraction or apology for this embarrassing gaffe. At the very least, she should be offering ScoMo an apology for getting it wrong. I won’t however hold my breath waiting for it.
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July 7, 2022 8:31am
- Swifty
  
  Labour are losing it.
  
  Badly.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:37am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    But it won’t make an iota of difference to the NZ sheila who votes Cindy and Cannabis Chloe.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:34am
- NK
  
  More misinformation/disinformation from our Prime Liar.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:41am
  - david
    
    That is why (at least until she marries) she should be known as Miss Information.
    
    Come to think of it Helen Clarke retained the title of Miss throughout her political career and beyond.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:38am
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      Her husband has a beard, or is that he IS a beard?
      
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      July 7, 2022 12:22pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    And she wants to push through “hate speech” laws and others governing “misinformation”. It’s the missing chapter from 1984 just after we were introduced to Minitru. The Ministry of Truth. It’s almost unbelievable how much of a liar and fraud this woman is.
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:31am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Maybe we should be referring her false claims to the Disinformation Unit which is based in the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet…
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:51am
- Ruahine
  
  I do not believe Ardern made a genuine mistake concerning flood relief for NZers living in OZ. She just wanted to have a swipe at Scott Morrison and hoped that the lazy lying NZ Media would not pickup on it.
  Yes, kudos to Jason Walls.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:46am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Why didn’t the Oz media pick it up and blast her? May be they were star struck by the white sheet she wore to meet BoJo??
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:37am
- zulumonster
  
  Jason Walls is as wet as they come – and a Jacinda fanboy all the way. He did call out the “lie” on ZB last night but excused it by suggesting the Albanese approach was more explicit! That somehow makes it better and the Scomo policy terrible!
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:15am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Jason Walls is as Labour as one can get and a prominent bribe partner sorry NZ Journalist.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:38am
- Libertarians are right
  
  To be fair, it sounds like her position is that Albanese made a big theatrical announcement about it and ScoMo wouldn’t have which is why Albanese is better. Remember, Jacinda does love announcements.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:18am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Even so, it is still a very stupid thing to do. See my comment below.
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:03am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Yes, and she loves the photo opportunities that go with the announcements. But Morrison didn’t make a song and dance about the relief funding as Ardern did, so in her mind, it never happened.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:26am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “She said it was significant and bodes well for her upcoming meeting with Anthony Albanese, while also saying it was “pretty much the opposite” to what Scott Morrison would’ve done.”
  
  That is very poor form. My observation of New Zealand and Australia politics is that PMs do not play politics when there is a change of government. Jacinda is openly saying that she prefers the new Australian PM to the previous one. What happens when a future New Zealand Labour PM needs to work with a conservative Australian PM?
  
  If you look at recent history, Helen Clark worked with John Howard for seven years, despite the two having little in common politically. When Howard was voted out of office, she would not have been so stupid as to say ‘good riddance’.
  
  Honestly there seems to be no end to Jacinda’s lack of judgement.
  
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  July 7, 2022 10:02am
  - Nickc2
    
    You can take the girl out of Morrinsville but you can’t take Morrinsville out of the girl eh?
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:13am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Make that – “the fish’n’chip shop” outa the girl.
      
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      July 7, 2022 10:55am
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      Hey, go easy on Morrinsville. It’s just down the road from Tauhei.
      
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      July 7, 2022 11:43am
      - Nickc2
        
        You can have her back anytime you like!!!
        
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        July 7, 2022 11:47am
      - Tauhei Notts
        
        And the word at the local farmers and businessmen’s club is that the recent European Union deal is the worst Free Trade agreement outcome New Zealand has ever negotiated.
        And just last month Damien O’Connor was regarded as the most astute, by far, cabinet minister in our current regime. Now you know what the rest are like.
        
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        July 7, 2022 4:06pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Ever since Chris Hipkins openly and deliberately interferred in Aus politics re Barnaby Joyce, Labour haven’t cared at all about pretending to be neutral.
    
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    July 7, 2022 2:49pm
- Paulus
  
  She is never wrong so why should she apologies.
  
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  July 7, 2022 10:22am
kiwikidsnz

Willie Jackson is the subject matter expert
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-07/australia-begins-bilateral-treaty-talks-with-nz/101213612
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July 7, 2022 8:35am
- Nickc2
  
  And I thought Aboriginals were making progress? Obviously not, when they reach out to the likes of Willie Jackson and Co. Reaching out to the likes of Jackson’ll set em back in the Stone Ages for sure.
  When I was living in Aust, Hone Harawira came to Aust and tried to stir up trouble on an Aboriginal Reservation, and geez, didn’t the Aust MSM (with the exception of the ABC) give him a roasting. I would say he went home with his tail between his legs but for Hone, that’s not possible, he doesn’t give up as we noted with Covid Maori Malitia Road Blocks.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:52am
Tricati

Saw this headline on the ‘Horrid’, and thankfully behind the paywall, but headline say’s it all.
Another cheap shot by Shane Te Pou suggesting I believe Luxon’s leadership is in question. Questioning a man’s leadership, that has run major businesses and organizations, compared to the rabble currently reportedly running the country is just laughable. Labour and is ‘blinkered’ supporters are really pushing it up hill know in an attempt to discredit Luxon, who was decisive on, his and Nationals, position on abortion. No amount of bought spin will change at.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/shane-te-pou-christopher-luxon-has-shown-what-kind-of-prime-minister-he-would-be/KSCCG6P3VJF24FCW4AYZU3MDIY/
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July 7, 2022 8:35am
- Cassandra
  
  Extraordinary that this awful rag would run an article by a Labour hack. They’ll have one soon by Rodney Hide on Ardern. Won’t they?
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:48am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Former Labour hack. If my memory serves me correctly, Te Pou/Phillips was kicked out of the Labour Party a few years ago after an “indiscretion”.
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:53am
    - Swifty
      
      And booted from his union job Tony.
      
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      July 7, 2022 4:54pm
    - Swifty
      
      ….and it was multiple indiscretions.
      
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      July 7, 2022 4:54pm
- Paulus
  
  Coming from Shane Te Poo that’s remarkable as his backgtound leaves much to be reviewed.
  Hyppocrite
  
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  July 7, 2022 10:29am
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION…

Other than Narcissists and Psychopaths, who else quotes themselves?

https://twitter.com/tukakimatt/status/1544262334293905408

(And the comments 😀 😀 😀 )
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July 7, 2022 8:36am
- Swifty
  
  Good grief.
  
  He’s now Nelson Mandela.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:53am
- Frank the tank
  
  LOL – turning into a real life Walter Mitty.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:14am
  - KH
    
    Editor in chief Willie Jackson has decided his media will not mention anything negative about Matthew Tukaki
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:42am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Did he write that when he was working for the United Nations, having been appointed by Ban Ki-Moon? Or was it when he was leading Drake International through the Global Financial Crisis?
  
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  July 7, 2022 10:55am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    I am disappointed he was not appointed by God.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:41am
Simon

They have put David Clark in charge of food distribution. Even Steve Jobs couldnt organize planning around food for the entire country instead they have this epic fuckup calling the shots.

Clown show are trying to control and pressure the supermarkets. There will be food rationing to lower supermarket profits. Profits are evil and a bunch of clowns who have never generated a profit in their entire lives are now in charge.
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July 7, 2022 8:37am
- NK
  
  FMCG means precisely that. A decent sized supermarket can add 5c to every item and increase revenue by $50k per week, and not one customer would complain or even know.
  
  This is utterly hilarious, but sad at the same time.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:45am
  - gump
    
    Your maths is wrong. There are no supermarkets in New Zealand that sell a million individual SKUs per week.
    
    $50,000 /$0.05 = 1,000,000
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:22am
    - Swifty
      
      My PaknSave would come close if not exceed that.
      
      It’s only 1500 customers buying 100 items every day for seven days.
      
      Hell, every time I go in there there would be several hundred people all with loaded trollies and they’re open 14/7.
      
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      July 7, 2022 11:08am
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      gump – I am writing a business proposal on the request of Wily Willy as how to set up and run “Kiwi Supermarket”. An initiative by the next Labour gummit where a litre of milk will cost only 10 cents.
      
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      July 7, 2022 11:43am
      - peterwn
        
        And milk consumption will skyrocket when pig breeders breed many more pigs fed on 10c milk.
        
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        July 7, 2022 2:30pm
    - Tom Hunter
      
      Fine. As an ACT voter, do you support this Labour government policy or not?
      
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      July 7, 2022 12:20pm
    - O C Smith
      
      Some by multiple individual SKU’s per week.
      
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      July 8, 2022 7:20am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “There will be food rationing to lower supermarket profits.”
  
  It shows how far we have descended. Six months ago that would have been satire. While unlikely, it can no longer be ruled out. I could see Golriz Ghahraman and that Mexican MP being fine with it. “It is not fair that the rich people get to buy more food.”
  
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  July 7, 2022 10:08am
  - Swifty
    
    Lefty Politics 101:
    
    Rule Number One – create an enemy.
    
    Rule Number Two – create fear of the enemy and widespread alarm.
    
    Rule Number Three – convince the rabble only you can save them from the enemy.
    
    Rule Number Four – go back to rule number one.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:13am
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Six months ago, Willie Jackson did bring up taking control of the supermarkets. Either twit or FB – saw it on twitter. The profit aspect is cover for the real reason, which I’m not sure of – but it can be inferred from what is happening world-wide.
    
    * distribution problems are coming due to fuel prices, etc
    * growing problems due to fuel prices, etc (vege growers shutting off heaters)
    * clamp down on beef (& other meat) & dairy coming due to “climate change”
    
    It’s time for people to put in vege gardens & have chickens. DH has always wanted chickens, but I have resisted. Still resisting because am in denial, even though logically I believe it will be important.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:42am
- leoj
  
  Total of all NZ supermarkets making a$1 million per day – BAD.
  
  Individual commercial banks (ANZ, BNZ, Westpac and ASB) each making $1 billion and more per year – that’s quite okay.
  
  Banks getting a pass.
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:13am
  - Swifty
    
    Lefties taking billions from the pockets of NZ families in salaries annually in government jobs delivering little or no value to NZers lives – and many in fact detracting from our ability to get on and pay our way in the world.
    
    The beast that will spell our doom is government not the local grocer.
    
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    July 7, 2022 2:08pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Nice diversion. We are freehold, and the supermarket price is the same.
    But uptick sonny
    
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    July 7, 2022 5:47pm
- RightNow
  
  Smart people know the real cause of food inflation is increased regulation and bureaucracy.
  The diversion is to blame supermarkets for apparently making a million dollars a day in excess profits.
  Assuming that million was axed immediately (without increasing the cost of bureaucracy) that would save each of 5 million kiwis how much?
  Answer is 20 cents per day, $1.40 per week. Less than a packet of chewing gum.
  
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  July 7, 2022 2:46pm
hullkiwi

Johnson will be gone burger by the UK parliamentary summer recess. A Chairman of the Party, two cabinet resignations and the sacking of a third (Michael Gove) this morning. Johnson’s ship is sinking, and sinking fast. This is 1990 all over again!

A man who has had every opportunity, a style and whit of a Tory toff, but still endearing, even to cloth cap Labour supporters. But like so many before him, he has squandered the opportunities and flushed them down the drain. He has done this by being contemptuous of those who supported him and who he sought to lead. Instead of honesty and integrity, British citizens have been witness to an on going shambles and saga comprising deceit and lies (much like the govt of our own dear PriNZess). It has been a govt that once it had achieved its primary aim (that being Brexit and even that was done by lying to people), it didn’t have a clue as to why they were in government, or what to do next!

So, what next for Tory Britain…..?
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July 7, 2022 8:43am
- rockape
  
  Boris only became PM to usher in Brexit. Now that’s done he should go !
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:04am
- Philview
  
  The NZ media often complain about the lies of Boris Johnson but have nothing to say about the great deceit of the Ardern Labour Government.
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:34am
- krazykiwi
  
  Here is a list of the 41 resignations, most in the last two days:
  
  Cabinet ministers who have resigned from Boris Johnson’s government:
  1. Rishi Sunak, chancellor (6.10 p.m. 5 July)
  2. Sajid Javid, health secretary (6.02 p.m. 5 July)
  3. Oliver Dowden, party chairman (5.35 a.m. 24 June)
  4. Simon Hart, Wales Secretary (10.30 p.m. 6 July)
  
  Junior ministers, trade envoys and party officials who have resigned from Boris Johnson’s government:
  1. Andrew Murrison, trade envoy to Tunisia and Morocco (7 p.m. 5 July)
  2. Bim Afolami, party vice chairman (7.33 p.m. 5 July)
  3. Theo Clarke, trade envoy to Kenya (10.02 p.m. 5 July)
  4. Alex Chalk, solicitor general (10.47 p.m. 5 July)
  5. Will Quince, children and families minister (8.25 a.m. 6 July)
  6. Robin Walker, education minister (9.43 a.m. 6 July)
  7. John Glen, city minister and economic secretary for the Treasury (11.06 a.m. 6 July)
  8. Victoria Atkins, prisons minister (11.34 a.m. 6 July)
  9. Jo Churchill, agri-innovation and climate adaptation minister (12.01 p.m. 6 July)
  10. Stuart Andrew, housing minister (12.41 p.m. 6 July)
  11. Lee Rowley, industry minister (2.24 p.m. 6 July)
  12. Alex Burghart, education minister (2.24 p.m. 6 July)
  13. Julie Lopez, culture minister (2.24 p.m. 6 July)
  14. Kemi Badenoch, equalities minister (2.25 p.m. 6 July)
  15. Neil O’Brien, levelling up minister (6 July)
  16. Mims Davies, employment minister (2.26 p.m. 6 July)
  17. Rachel Maclean, safeguarding minister (3.38 p.m. 6 July)
  18. Mike Freer, exports minister (4.09 p.m. 6 July)
  19. David Duguid, fisheries envoy and trade envoy for Angola and Zambia (6.09 p.m. 6 July)
  20. Ed Argar, health minister (11.04 p.m. 6 July)
  
  Parliamentary private secretaries and others who have resigned from Boris Johnson’s government:
  1. Jonathan Gullis, PPS to the Northern Ireland secretary (7.48 p.m. 5 July)
  2. Saqib Bhatti, PPS to the Department for Health and Social Care (7.51 p.m. 5 July)
  3. Nicola Richards, PPS to the Department for Transport (8.27 p.m. 5 July)
  4. Virginia Crosbie, PPS to the Wales Office (9.02 p.m. 5 July)
  5. Laura Trott, PPS to the Department for Transport (8.11 a.m. 6 July)
  6. Felicity Buchan, PPS to the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (11.05 a.m. 6 July)
  7. David Johnston, PPS to the Department for Education (1.30 p.m. 6 July)
  8. Claire Coutinho, PPS to the Treasury (1.30 p.m. 6 July)
  9. Selaine Saxby, PPS to the Treasury (1.30 p.m. 6 July)
  10. Duncan Baker, PPS to the Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities (3.10 p.m. 6 July)
  11. Craig Williams, PPS to the Chancellor (3.22 p.m. 6 July)
  12. Mark Logan, PPS to the Northern Ireland Office (3.32 p.m. 6 July)
  13. James Sunderland, PPS to the Department for Education (4.40 p.m. 6 July)
  14. Sara Britcliffe, PPS to the Department for Education (4.49 p.m. 6 July)
  15. Peter Gibson, PPS to the Department for International Trade (5.14 p.m. 6 July)
  16. Ruth Edwards, PPS to the Scotland Office (4.52 p.m. 6 July)
  17. Jacob Young, PPS in the Ministry of Housing (8.40 p.m. 6 July)
  
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  July 7, 2022 3:47pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Seems the name Boris Johnson is mud
    
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    July 7, 2022 5:51pm
pdm

A major conundrum for David Clark.

Which Cabinet Ministers husband/wife, son/daughter, cousin, niece or nephew to appoint as the `Supermarket Commissioner.
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July 7, 2022 8:47am
- Swifty
  
  A Mr Ormsby has the inside running I am told.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:52am
- hullkiwi
  
  The ultimate non job.
  
  Question, isn’t this role meant to be part of the remit of the Commerce Commission?
  
  So, isn’t it a case of creating a non role, and making out you are doing something, when you are in fact doing absolutely nothing at all?
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:00am
- Frank the tank
  
  It’s easy just outsource the recruitment to Mahutacorp.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:14am
  - Bridgenag
    
    There will have to have a big consultancy group and administrators to control all the new bureaucrats and don’t forget they will have to swear on the TOW, speak TeR and have a few drops of Maori blood
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:20am
    - Paulus
      
      First of all the food in the Supermarkets have to have their names changed to a Maori name – like everything else now.
      
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      July 7, 2022 1:59pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  When in history did a government ‘Supermarket Commissioner’ result in lower food prices and superior supply and quality of food?
  
  Countdown is owned by the Woolworths Group. It has annual revenue of more than $A 60 billion. What happens if it decides that all this fuckery from the New Zealand Government is not worth the trouble and walks away from New Zealand?
  
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  July 7, 2022 10:14am
  - Nickc2
    
    You are correct Benedict. Perhaps this Govt has intentions of getting into the Supermarket business. If so, what sort of ‘ism’ does that remind you of: Socialism or Communism?
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:24am
    - cmm
      
      Well we already have the government involved in many other commercial ventures from Air NZ to farming.
      
      For the government to get involved in a state-run supermarket chain would just be common sense and logical (I think that’s the buzzword of the day).
      
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      July 7, 2022 11:31am
  - Taieri
    
    Nga Taonga Hokohoko Tangata o Aotearoa – a new, wonderful, customer friendly supermarket chain, which will overcome the legacy of post-colonial, white-supremacist enterprises currently robbing every whanau across the motu.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:35am
  - Harry Knuts
    
    One of the most successful ways of getting costs down is bringing in bigger competition like the likes of Costco. The Commission/commissioner will be toothless.
    
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    July 7, 2022 4:59pm
- Ruawai
  
  Matthew Tukaki is looking for a new gig!
  
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  July 7, 2022 2:43pm
I remember when

“Hawkes Bay mental health services delivered ‘by Maori for Maori’: HB Today, 5 July 2022:
A trio of new local Kaupapa Maori health services by Maori for Maori were announced at a powhiri in Hastings.
“We know that for many whanau it has been too difficult to get help for too long. That is why this Government is building a whole new mental health system,” Henare said.
“Now for the first time, there are real services opening up across Aotearoa for Maori, delivered by Maori, like here in Hawke’s Bay.”

A sort of Domino’s with Maori drivers?
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July 7, 2022 9:02am
- Cassandra
  
  Good luck with their search for Maori psychiatrists. Have to be the right tribe of course. Plus specialist nurses. They’ll find plenty of traditional healers but they’ve always been available and have never succeeded. It’s a far cry from the Supression of Tohungas Act.
  
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  July 7, 2022 9:26am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Why do people care about the ethnicity of their doctors? When I needed heart valve replacement surgery, the surgeon was a grumpy old white guy. A little bit of research revealed that he was one of the top cardiac surgeons in the country.
  
  Are these folk really saying that they do not want to be treated by a white or Chinese doctor regardless of their competence? What next? Are we going to have medical practices run by Maori that refuse to provide treatment for people of other ethnicities?
  
  So much for all those speeches after the Treaty was signed that celebrated “We are now one people”.
  
  http://onenzfoundation.co.nz/articles/treaty-of-waitangi/2867-2/
  
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  July 7, 2022 10:21am
  - Swifty
    
    My GP is part-Maori and incidentally is the best GP I’ve ever had.
    
    Just imagine the way I would be viewed if I rejected seeing him and said “I want a European doctor thanks….”
    
    The best societies have based themselves on merit – the worst have chosen to divide themselves based on race, class, religion, creed etc.
    
    We’re playing with fire and no-one, even the so-called ‘experts’, can say with any confidence whatsoever where this will all end up.
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:48am
    - Swifty
      
      Here’s one possible future:
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Civil_War
      
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      July 7, 2022 10:49am
  - Hebe123
    
    Without being racist BY, I don’t want to be treated by a Maori doctor as i don’t know whether he got through med school with special treatment or whether he actually met the grade. Given the choice, who would risk substandard care?
    They can have their own doctors, i’ll be sticking to the white/Asian ones. Further limited by which ones showed some independent thought around the vax rollout.
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:01am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Don’t they just get ‘special treatment’ just to get in to medical school? I thought that once they are in, they need to pass the same exams as the other folk. And then after they graduate they need to do internships in hospitals and do all the things needed to become registered.
      
      Are you saying that Maori medical students do not need to pass the same standards to graduate from medical school? That would be alarming.
      
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      July 7, 2022 1:00pm
      - peterwn
        
        The selection is in the first year. Those who got preferential selection probaby got A’s or A-‘s for their first year instead of A+ in all subjects. It is stretching things to say that a student who only got A- in the first year is an inferior doctor to one who got A+. In the 1960’s or so, B grades were sufficient to get into medical school. This is what a former Otago Vice Chancellor told me when we were on a bus together.
        
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        July 7, 2022 2:24pm
      - Hebe123
        
        My understanding is that maori (and other special groups) get:
        1. Special entry quota. Two years ago my friends lad didn’t get into med with a 94% average, while Maori students with a 70% average got in. I think this was from the intermediate year. (There is also special criteria for Pacifica, kids from low decile and rural schools as well as deprived kids. My brothers foster child got in on this last one as she had no parental support, but she dropped into physio after the intermediate year as she just couldn’t keep up.)
        2. Special treatment to get them through such as being able to redo assessments and reset exams.
        
        I have only heard about the second point annecdotally so if someone can clarify that would be great.
        
        Does it make them a worse doctor? I don’t know but I’d rather have one that knows their stuff without having to have several goes to remember – or who has to go look it up in the real world situation.
        
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        July 7, 2022 4:27pm
- Ehlana
  
  By Maori for Maori mental health care was tried in Auckland a long time ago. It resulted in this: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/titewhai-harawira-nana-or-bully/4NOMI44CMZM6AQAKTIXFJSOKJU/
  
  What steps are being taken to prevent a repeat?
  
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  July 7, 2022 1:49pm
Maggie Pie

And I see the ‘Megaupload’ founder is advertising for staff again…..

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1544505198680621057
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July 7, 2022 9:21am
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It turns out that Brexit is turning into a spectacular clusterfuck that is devastating the British economy. Are the British people who voted for Brexit called Little Englanders because of their little brains?

>The Office for Budget Responsibility says Brexit will have a long-term effect of cutting UK GDP by a hefty 4%, an estimate unchanged since early 2020. The Financial Times says such a decline amounts to £100bn in lost output, and £40bn less revenue to the Treasury a year. The UK is now behind all the other G7 nations in the pace of its recovery from the pandemic, with exports by UK small businesses to the EU down significantly.
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July 7, 2022 9:35am
- Swifty
  
  Assuming this is true – a price worth paying to escape the slow and ignominious death that is the British future under the boots of their unelected French and German masters.
  
  I Vow to Thee My Country: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Xkr8z3lEo
  
  Fantasia on a Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U6sWqfrnTs
  
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  July 7, 2022 10:42am
- Paulus
  
  Don’t fret Sir Keir Sturmer has prevaricated over taking the UK back into the EU.
  Known as man of the fence when as a Civil Servant, and easily swayed.
  Anything for votes
  
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  July 7, 2022 10:44am
- Libertarians are right
  
  My favourite is the attitude that “Europe wouldn’t have been so nasty if the UK had just stayed”.
  
  Talk about victim blaming. Europe is the bad guy here and the UK is well shod of that abusive relationship.
  
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  July 7, 2022 10:57am
- All_on_Red
  
  Seems the OBR has as much a record for accuracy as your own dumb comments.
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/11/24/four-times-obr-has-wrong/
  
  ‘The government’s fiscal watchdog admitted on Tuesday that the deterioration it forecast in the public finances after the EU referendum has not materialised, but laid the blame for the error on data revisions and other factors beyond its control.’
  
  https://www.ft.com/content/d140f26e-f7b9-11e8-af46-2022a0b02a6c
  And;
  https://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/oct/16/obr-poor-forecasting-record-office-budget-responsibility
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:57am
Prince

Interesting that this bloke doesn’t feel ‘“huge whakamā, shock and hurt” sending his partner down to pick up food parcels for himself, his kids and his dogs.
Time to look in the mirror, buddy. Get off your backside and get a job.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/bay-of-plenty/300630725/you-could-sell-your-dogs-family-in-need-shocked-at-foodbanks-advice
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July 7, 2022 9:40am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Get rid of the dogs.
  
  It’s called “priorities”.
  
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  July 7, 2022 12:09pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Meh, run to the media.
  It was given as an option and not as a condition for the person seeking assistance.
  Obviously the family is struggling. If it is not for them to part with their beloved kuri, fine, but no need to cry about an observation.
  Moral of the story I guess: Obviously that volunteer at the food bank deserves to be shot.
  
  Some thin skins these days.
  A mate of mine had trouble finding a rental, because he had 5 or 6 dogs (chihuahua). “You could gas them” was my helpful advice.\
  I also remind him that Chihuahua were considered an eating dog by Mesoamercians, and would presumably look much like a roast chicken once skinned and dressed.
  Funny thing is, like the poor guy in the story, the purchase of puppies were a way to get through times of crisis by his partner (more than one crisis evidently) and I pointed out that the dogs become a crisis of their own sort at a later date.
  LOL….people.
  
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  July 7, 2022 1:37pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

Looks like the Socialist Party of Aotearoa aka Labour is really rattled by Luxon. So they are still trying to keep the abortion issue alive with the help of their bribe partner NZ Herald. One of the Labour attack dogs Shane Te Pou has written a nasty piece about why Luxon is not fit to be a PM. This s**t piece is labelled as premium content so the peasants cannot read it without paying $1.20.
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July 7, 2022 10:06am
- hullkiwi
  
  SCS, it is a follow from the hit job done at the weekend by the Face most suited for Radio (Paddy Gower).
  
  He made exactly the same comments on Saturday/Sunday on the Nation. This was then written up by NewsHub as a hit piece and put on their website.
  
  Sorry, but when does second rate opinion become news and fact?
  
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  July 7, 2022 12:35pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Comments on the article suggest Te Poo hasn’t fooled many people though.
  
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  July 7, 2022 1:48pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING 😎

Nice work if you can get it…

https://twitter.com/kehetauhauaga/status/1544540126620987392
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July 7, 2022 10:16am
MCōs

Happy birthday, Ringo Starr
82yo

Eighty bloody two
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July 7, 2022 10:24am
- Tony Stuart
  
  It’s a bit more than 64!
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:04am
- leoj
  
  ……and the beat goes on.
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:18am
- Philview
  
  I watched a bit of Paul McCartney at Glastonbury online. Fantastic that he can still pull off a major show at 80. Crowded House played earlier in the day and also looked in good form.
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:37am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  The second best drummer in the Beatles (which, now I check, John Lennon didn’t actually say).
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:40am
Maggie Pie

Research ‘EVENT 201’

or you can just rely on our own…. “single-source-of-truth”

https://centerforhealthsecurity.org//our-work/exercises/event201/about
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July 7, 2022 10:36am
Surely Knott

Have the police found the arsonist of the Pride Building in Tauranga? Is their an investigation into the cause of the fire. What were the findings?

Any word on Pauline Hanna’s Remuera death April 2021? Her husband was a suspect. Is there a formal police investigation underway? Is it a murder investigation? Any autopsy or coroner results?

Any word on the Muriwai Teen that the coroner was investigating the headline read ” coroner says death not linked to the vaccine” but hadn’t yet investigated. When can we expect to hear the cause of death? It would be good to shut all those antivaxx conspiracies down. What was the medication that did cause her death?
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July 7, 2022 10:50am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  I don’t know about any of that stuff, but I do see on the top of the NZ Herald stories that Johnny Depp is making public digs at Amber Heard. 😉
  
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  July 7, 2022 1:51pm
- Ross Campbell
  
  Any word on the verdict from your psychiatrist yet?.
  
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  July 7, 2022 2:25pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
    Didn’t think so.
    
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    July 7, 2022 2:37pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes Mike
    
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    July 7, 2022 3:48pm
  - Surely Knott
    
    Perfectly normal to enquire about a couple of deaths early last year in our community, and to follow up on the outcomes. It’s very unusual we haven’t heard. I think a psychiatrist would ask why this makes you so uncomfortable, or “triggered” as per the modern parlance.
    
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    July 7, 2022 9:54pm
Swifty

The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies are headed together on a collision course – with impact predicted in four or five billion years:

https://twitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1544637280593203200

I wonder what God had in mind designing things this way?
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July 7, 2022 11:00am
Tony Stuart

Oh dear. Nanaia Mahuta isn’t the only Labour Minister facing accusations of nepotism. Check out this thread from Thomas Cranmer about a PR company called Tātou, set up by the partner of Minister Peeni Henare:

https://twitter.com/kehetauhauaga/status/1544540126620987392

In his closing comment, Cranmer notes:

Government rules and policies around conflicts and procurement are clearly being routinely ignored. There needs to be a full independent investigation into all of these matters.

Once again, it’s hard to disagree with that conclusion.
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July 7, 2022 11:04am
- Jack5
  
  Never has New Zealand been in such need of an independent news media.
  
  This at a time when the media not owned by the Leftist State have been bribed into near-silence by the Ardernist Government.
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:09am
- Swifty
  
  It’s a feeding frenzy on the taxpayer carcass.
  
  BTW – Tatou isn’t a very diverse organisation:
  
  https://tatou.nz/
  
  Very monocultural. They’ll need to work on that.
  
  Racists.//
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:22am
  - cas
    
    A firm with 2 daughters of the Ceo by the looks of it and also two people with their last name Henare. Relis of Pene by any chance?
    
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    July 7, 2022 3:31pm
Jack5

Chris Trotter, the veteran Left commentator, is interesting today on a Wily-Willie Jackson statement on Tuesday. Wily’s words:

The face of New Zealand and democracy has changed dramatically in the past few years and we need to reflect New Zealand’s new identity and democracy in our main media entities.

Trotter comments at his blog:

https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2022/07/how-new-is-our-democracy.html
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July 7, 2022 11:14am
Jack5

Debate continues on what is the National Party’s silent position (if there is any) on the Reserve Bank governor, Orr. If ACT has had anything to say as well, I’ve missed it.

The country’s No. 1 commentator on the Reserve Bank, Michael Reddell, today probes for a National response:

Most RB-watchers treat the reappointment of Orr as pretty much a foregone conclusion (assuming the Governor has not found greener pastures in which to labour). At present, I agree. But that is partly because of the silence where one might have hoped there was an effective political Opposition. If National is content to resign itself to another five years of Orr – using his platform as head of a technocratic non-partisan institution to champion personal left-wing causes, operating with his bullying and divisive style, presiding over a sharp downgrading of the Bank’s research and analysis capability, losing billions of dollars for the taxpayer and then (together with the surge in core inflation) brushing it all off with a “I have no regrets” – they should just keep right on as they are.

It has seemed as though Luxon was holding fire to keep National’s guns trained for next election on inflation, though Orr has a part in that issue.

However, as has been pointed out earlier, Luxon more or less humiliated his then Finance spokesman, Bridges, when Bridges indicated a National Government would fire Orr.

Riddell talks sense on Orr and the Reserve Bank at:

https://croakingcassandra.com/2022/07/06/what-might-be-done-about-the-reserve-bank/
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July 7, 2022 11:24am
MCōs

I had a fourth covid jab this morning.
Taking into account all the dire warnings on this forum I covered my bases by going to a vaccination centre located across the road to an undertaker.
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July 7, 2022 11:25am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The undertaker is watching you now//
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:32am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Good for you. I do not know your personal circumstances. It may have been a wise choice. Regular readers will recall that I was an early ardent supported of vaccination. I am not in the ‘anti vaccination’ camp. I have had three shots.
  
  However following the evidence closely, I am contemptuous that Governments have spent billions on such ineffective ‘vaccines’ and forced people to take them. The negative fall out is too extensive for me to summarise here. Just one example – many parents, especially Maori parents have stop listening when the word ‘vaccine’ is used. So they have stopped vaccinating their kids against measles and other childhood infections – you know vaccines that actually work and which have a 50 year safety record.
  
  I will not be getting a 4th shot. Not unless there is some massive outbreak of a new deadly strain. Which seems unlikely.
  
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  July 7, 2022 11:37am
  - David Garrett
    
    BY: I am entirely with you – three shots but no more. It is simply nonsense to try and claim that this is a vaccine in the usual sense of the word. It is an experimental treatment – and a not very effective one – which has been rushed into widespread use because of scare mongering by people who ought to have known better
    
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    July 7, 2022 11:43am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Yes exactly. My partner’s father is getting a 4th shot today. At my urging. Because he is 85 and has terminal cancer. He might be with us for another 6 months. We don’t want Covid killing him next week – which is quite possible if he gets it.
      
      I still hear radio ads telling people who have HAD covid to get boosted because ‘the vaccine provides better protection than natural immunity’. Lies. Which matters. Because I can now not trust anything any Minister in this government tells us about anything.
      
      And to think that in the 2017 election campaign, Jacinda said she ‘never lies’.
      
      BTW as of today I am ‘between jobs’ so I have plenty of time to annoy people on Kiwiblog. 🙂
      
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      July 7, 2022 11:57am
      - David Garrett
        
        Your contributions are always most welcome BY – except of course when you disagree with me!
        
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        July 7, 2022 12:00pm
      - Taieri
        
        And to think that in the 2017 election campaign, Jacinda said she ‘never lies’
        ————
        
        It was her first one, so in a way she’s truthful.
        
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        July 7, 2022 12:03pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        85 with terminal cancer. I don’t wish to be unsympathetic, but something will carry him off. In the past it would have been “flu” – in reality, a minor infection that his body was no longer able to fight off. That’s the way it goes.
        
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        July 7, 2022 12:13pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Enjoy the between time. Like DG, I look forward to your always thoughtful comments.
        
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        July 7, 2022 12:26pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        “I don’t wish to be unsympathetic, but something will carry him off.”
        
        I am aware. But on balance, it seemed prudent to get him a 4th COVID shot. And a flu shot.
        
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        July 7, 2022 1:03pm
    - wilderbeast
      
      I understand. I drew the line a bit earlier at two shots. I’m not anti vaccine but I’ve always been a reluctant vaccinator. Don’t know why, it was “feel” more than anything. I thought vaccination was my ticket to freedom and wanted to do my bit, so I got my two done quick smart. Then I realised it was a false promise when they changed the rules on my “passport” and they were abusing our trust. The third shot was a close run thing for me, at one point it looked like not taking it might affect my ability to do my job. Fortunately the protest happened and lost trust was widespread, and I never had to get it.
      
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      July 7, 2022 1:25pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    At the time I thought vaccination was sensible for most adults, but with more recent information and with low risk Omicron variants dominating I don’t think I would get it unless I was high risk
    eg over 80 yrs old or chronically ill.
    
    During the 2021 vaccination program in NZ about 1 in 500 more over 65’s (2000 out of 1 million total) died than in 2020, with respiratory diseases largely absent in both years. Maybe there is an alternative explanation for that, other than vaccination, but I haven’t heard one yet (and I’ve been asking/looking) the temporal correlation is strong. Unless your risk from omicron is higher than that it doesn’t seem like a good bet to me.
    
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    July 7, 2022 12:01pm
    - septic skeptic
      
      Latest variants of omicron apparently may cause more severe illness as they are more prone to infect the lungs rather than upper respiratory tracts. The current vax is pretty much useless against the latest variants, which makes sense given that it targets the spike protein on the original Wuhan strain – now long passed. Hopefully recent early strain Omicron infections hold up for protection against serious disease from these new variants.
      
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      July 7, 2022 1:04pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    BY, I assume you would also need to see a new vax formula even in the face of a new deadly strain? I’ll bet a $100 to a servo pie that the postulated new strain won’t have also re-developed the original spike protein for the Wuhan strain – so the old vax will be (completely) useless!
    I just hope the Omicron infection I am now recovering from is good enough for a decent immunity.
    
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    July 7, 2022 2:00pm
Maggie Pie

If you do nothing else today….watch this 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/andre_mihaescu/status/1544782995189600260
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July 7, 2022 11:30am
Taieri

All people caring about saving the planet will be happy to learn that the proposed Lake Onslow energy storage scheme is very likely to go ahead.

“(…)MBIE said in its project update that the Cabinet had confirmed a pumped hydro scheme at Lake Onslow “appears technically feasible at this stage”, although it said more work was needed to confirm that.(…)”

As the area around Lake Onslow is culturally significant, the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment will work with mana whenua in progressing this project.

Hopefully, the green hydrogen production will also commence at Tiwai Point as soon as possible.

And the pig farmers will start making wings for their wards…
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July 7, 2022 12:01pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  ‘As the area around Lake Onslow is culturally significant …’
  
  When did that happen?
  
  Ooo, ooo, I know! Pick me sir, pick me!
  
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  July 7, 2022 7:20pm
Nickc2

Fuckin Hell!!
The Housing Minister has just announced on ZB that contracts with Motels in Rotorua that contain the so-called homeless will be extended for another five years. How can she commit a new Govt to that sort of crap?
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July 7, 2022 12:08pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  You don’t think a National Government will keep up the motels? They started it.
  
  Why don’t we just get the Chinese to come in and build giant prefabricated housing estates? Sure they will be unpleasant but what is the alternative? Kainga Ora is building topnotch homes for the poor. I have been in the new ones. I would live in one. Except for the neighbours.
  
  They will run out of money way before they run out of homeless people. Is anyone thinking 20 years ahead? Or even five years.?
  
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  July 7, 2022 1:35pm
  - Nickc2
    
    I doubt that National envisaged the size of the problem when/if they instigated housing homeless people in motels. Anyhow, in mitigation, I seriously doubt they would have pursued such a solution for this long, let alone extend it.
    Your solution may well work wrt Chinese building pre-fab housing but I don’t think NZers, in general would support it, especially if it’s anywhere near where they reside.
    My solution would be to compell/coax Maori tribes who have received massive taxpayer handouts via ToW determinations, to build suitable accommodation, house and be responsible for their own people.
    
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    July 7, 2022 2:26pm
    - septic skeptic
      
      The NIMBYs win the argument as far as I am concerned. We should build bullet proof units away from civilization for the ferals. If/when they demonstrate that they are ready to:
      1. Pay the rent
      2. Take reasonable care of the place and
      3. Not terrorize the neighbors
      Then they should be allowed another crack at normal social housing with civilians for neighbors.
      
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      July 7, 2022 7:04pm
krazykiwi

Some new, educational reading for the children: Hairy Maclary Ram Raids a Diary
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July 7, 2022 12:21pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBoaS3pok18
Embrace of NATO in China’s Back Yard Stokes Xi’s Worst Fears/ Beijing falls into the encirclement.

Beijing has been worried about the idea of a U.S.-Japan-South Korea security alliance, but what it fears is what is coming. Yoon Suk-yeol not only expressed his willingness to participate in Quad, but also attended the NATO leader’s summit for the first time. The NATO summit was held in Madrid, Spain from June 29 to 30. In addition to the 30 member countries, the meeting invited leaders from Pacific countries such as Japan, Korea, New Zealand and Australia to participate. We have observed a series of somewhat unusual phenomena since April 2022. More and more events have resulted that red China faces its worst isolation in the world in more than 30 years. For Chinese President Xi Jinping, dispatching his special envoy to Europe for a three-week charm tour was just one of many acts of high-stakes damage control ahead of the Twentieth Chinese Communist Party Congress this autumn. [17:41]
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July 7, 2022 12:34pm
- MCōs
  
  “Stoke’s XI’s Worst Fears”
  Bring in Lockie Ferguson & drop Southee.
  
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  July 7, 2022 1:31pm
  - Prince
    
    Very good.
    
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    July 7, 2022 2:38pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

What’s up in Remmers, Mags? The blue tent doesn’t look good.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300631454/emergency-services-in-remuera-pavement-cordoned-off
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July 7, 2022 12:35pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  It’s over the south side….not a lot of concern TBH.
  
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  July 7, 2022 12:50pm
  - MCōs
    
    Practically Mt Wellington
    
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    July 7, 2022 1:25pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

For all the pro nuclear folk – I see EDF has had to dial back on the power generation due to low river (cooling) levels.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Frances-Nuclear-Woes-Will-Worsen-Europes-Power-Crisis.html
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July 7, 2022 12:39pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Jacinda meets the Queen.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kuf2nhfty8oao85/JA%20Queen.png?dl=0
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July 7, 2022 12:50pm
Benedict Yu

My partner witnessed an incident yesterday that shows it is best to mind your own business while driving. Stopped at traffic lights. Suddenly two guys got out of a car with weapons and steel bars and starting smashing the car next to them. Breaking the windows, headlights, the whole show. They were trying to pull the driver out of the car. They gave up and quickly drove off.

My partner and other folk went to check on the driver. Called the police.

It turns out that while stopped at the lights, this guy noticed the two gangsters passing a bottle spirits and the driver drinking from the bottle. The guy ‘wagged his finger’ at them, showing that he disapproved. Bad move. 🙁
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July 7, 2022 12:55pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  I hope someone got a licence plate at least.
  Just about need to carry a baseball bat in the car in NZ today, if not something even better at stopping people.
  
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  July 7, 2022 2:16pm
  - Taieri
    
    I hope someone got a licence plate at least
    ————
    
    Doesn’t do much good. A couple of months ago I was hit by another car. Gave the police their plate number and the names of witnesses. Never heard anything from the “protect and serve”.
    
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    July 7, 2022 2:30pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Yes the police arrived fairly quickly. They had the licence plate number. My partner said that the police did not seem too interested because the guy was not injured. Never mind that he may have been traumatised. He was pretty dumb engaging with gangsters, but still…
      
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      July 7, 2022 3:03pm
      - kowtow
        
        And therein lies the problem.
        
        The police should be using everything in their legal arsenal to put gangs down. A sort of broke windows thing .
        
        Looks like they only want to hug ’em and sing Kumbaya.
        
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        July 7, 2022 3:43pm
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      A workmate of mine had an unprovoked assault on him when out shopping at a supermarket (a drunk polynesian who swore at him, threw a bottle, knocked him down and punched him when he got out of his car). Got the plate number from the car the man fled in, and he told me about this experience which he said really did traumatise him.
      When I asked about the outcome, he said it was months ago, and he never heard from the police after that.
      The police actually told him to stay away from the area~! (i.e. a supermarket) and gave advice how to protect himself when being beaten on the ground.
      They guy was telling me wanting some advice on martial arts/self defence worth learning, but I also made sure to tell him to chase up with the police and insist on an outcome, as likely CCTV and such.
      Well, he did, but the belated Police answer was just ‘plate was a stolen car’.
      From my personal experience it seems that NZ is becoming a more unhinged and randomly violent place over recent years. Not that this never happened, but you can cross paths or witness multiple feral people in the space of a few weeks now.
      And Police don’t seem to care or else can’t do much and are resigned to the fact.
      
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      July 7, 2022 3:59pm
      - Inthe09
        
        But god forbid you defend yourself and the other person ends up in hospital. They’ll drag you through the courts for years.
        
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        July 7, 2022 7:55pm
- Inandout
  
  Sometimes a working car cam can be handy if the incident was within view. I realise most company vehicles aren’t equiped with them.
  
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  July 7, 2022 3:48pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

100 year old give his own SOTN speech.
If only the young bastards is America could be forced to watch this. And not just America, even here in NZ.
https://thepatriotnation.net/what-this-100-year-old-veteran-just-confessed-is-totally-heartbreaking/
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July 7, 2022 1:06pm
Maggie Pie

Am I the only one who thinks Jason Walls has the ‘hots’ for Cindy? 😛

https://twitter.com/JasonWalls92/status/1544850220630286336
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July 7, 2022 1:19pm
- Inandout
  
  He had the hots for the Herald but is now Newstalk. I look at his photo and see a much younger John Campbell.
  
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  July 7, 2022 3:00pm
Nickc2

You probably won’t see this via our MSM.
Police in The Netherlands fired gunshots at Dutch farmers who were protesting the implementation of EU-based climate rules on the emissions of nitrogen that threaten the livelihoods of thousands.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/07/06/watch-police-open-fire-on-threatening-dutch-farmer-protest/
Is this a wake-up call to our primary producers, the ones that are valiantly attempting to keep our economy ticking over whilst Cindy’s mob does their best to shut them down at all costs?
Coming to a farming district near you!
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July 7, 2022 2:09pm
mandk

Released today, the latest Roy Morgan poll has Nats/ACT on 50% and Lab/Greens on 43%.
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July 7, 2022 2:44pm
- The Boss
  
  I think you are referring to the May poll
  
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  July 7, 2022 6:40pm
- rockape
  
  Sharpen up! That was last months, it’s July now !
  
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  July 7, 2022 7:22pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  June one due in the nest few days.
  
  If Labour is in the 20’s then we could have a Night of the Long Knives.
  
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  July 7, 2022 8:10pm
herb1

Steven Colbert interviewing Nz Prime minister Ardern

“Colbert” Prime Minister Ardern , what is your favourite lie you’ve ever told

“Arden” excuse me I’ve never told a lie in my political career

“ Colbert” haha , that’s my favourite one too
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July 7, 2022 2:52pm
Maggie Pie

WATCH….

This guy is SUCH A MESS!!
Hunter Biden filmed himself taking drugs during detox after dad Joe gave him $75k to blow 🙁

https://twitter.com/TheSunUS/status/1544753799264456707
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July 7, 2022 2:57pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, HB is destined to be the cause of his father’s removal from office. The old boy has served his purpose by getting the Dems elected.
  
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  July 7, 2022 3:04pm
Aunty

I see a meteor zoomed over Wellington today. My first reaction on hearing the news was what a shame it missed.

https://twitter.com/scorpion4x/status/1544896379264196608
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July 7, 2022 4:54pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  What makes you think it missed?
  
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  July 7, 2022 7:23pm
Maggie Pie

Not sure if I’ve got this right?

But some dirty old perv by the name of ‘Pincher’, is likely to bring down the entire British Parliament, because he went around sticking his hands down other men’s trousers 🙁

SHEESH!!
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July 7, 2022 5:33pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Maggie P
  
  Did he go to an English Boarding School??? That is where he learnt it.
  
  I believe that Les Dames et Les Monsieurs du Nuit make a good living around Parliament. Es[ecia;;y if you have certain proclivities.
  
  Cast your mind back to the Liberal Party Leader Jeremy someone or Profumo. These were just the tip of the iceberg
  
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  July 7, 2022 5:47pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Not at Waihi beach is it? I would not know
  
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  July 7, 2022 6:01pm
Maggie Pie

Kerry was saying ZB is moving into new premises tomorrow.
Unisex-Toilets apparently.
Not sure I could cope with that to be honest.
The last thing I could do is go #2’s knowing there’s some guy sitting in the next cubicle.

Just saying.
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July 7, 2022 6:33pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  I suspect most adults who’ve had kids lose all pretensions and care about shit.
  
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  July 7, 2022 7:23pm
  - MCōs
    
    My first wife had an uncle who refused to get a hip replacement because he didn’t want nurses etc looking at his bits.
    Having had a hip replacement myself I can confirm that nurses etc would have seen it all before.
    Then there’s colonoscopies, fingers up the bum to check the prostate gland . . . .
    
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    July 7, 2022 10:09pm
septic skeptic

The latest BA5 omicron has evolved significantly:

“Next week, BA.5 will be the dominant variant and by August it’ll be 90 percent of cases – and that’s because it’s sneaky, ESR said.” Quote from the newshub site.

So that’s a major problem – the tricky virus has now evolved to become sneaky!

You won’t believe me, but ESR actually stands for Environmental Science and Research! Maybe those saying Maori knowledge should have equal standing with science have a point after all? This is doing me head in!!
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July 7, 2022 7:33pm
hullkiwi

BREAKING NEWS!
Johnson is gone. BBC news flash that Johnson is to announce his resignation in the coming hour!
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July 7, 2022 8:17pm
Bobba Fret

Breaking news….Boris resigning tonight?
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July 7, 2022 8:55pm
septic skeptic

Have to say, BJ has done a much better job for Britain than JA has for New Zealand. They may or may not be matched in hypocrisy, but BJ hasn’t been attempting to convert their democracy into an ethno-state.
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