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Tony Stuart

Matthew Hooton’s Herald column this week zones in on immigration. He comments on various parties’ attitudes, but reserves his best stinger for Te Pāti Māori:

National’s rising star Erica Stanford cites work by the Productivity Commission and Labour’s favourite economic consultancy Berl, which suggests migrants who initially make passive investments to get residency then put two to three times as much into active investments.

Stanford accuses the Government of ignoring the Berl work, despite it being commissioned by no less than Immigration New Zealand.

Meanwhile, Act’s James McDowall wants all occupations on Labour’s “Green List” to have a fast track to residency. In practice, all properly qualified doctors, nurses, plumbers, electricians and farm managers would join the more limited range of professionals eligible to be fast-tracked to live here permanently.

On the left, the Greens’ Ricardo Menéndez March accuses Labour of allowing the rich to continue buying their way into residency while leaving low-wage foreign workers on precarious and temporary visas.

He recommends investors be given a three-year provisional visa, with residency confirmed at the end of that period only if a government audit confirms their money has gone into projects meeting viability, sustainability, desirability and human-rights tests.

Te Pāti Māori’s overarching position is that there has been quite enough immigration since whalers, sealers and missionaries started arriving in the late 1700s.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/matthew-hooton-the-method-in-labours-migration-makeover/X4CQUJYNFWQNEC6NZTOFSGRWXQ/
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December 22, 2021 8:10am
- Frank the tank
  
  “Te Pāti Māori’s overarching position is that there has been quite enough immigration since whalers, sealers and missionaries started arriving in the late 1700s.”
  
  Clowns will be clowns.
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:20am
  - Media hater
    
    I actually enjoy the monumental stupidity of these people and the fact they are actually serious in their outbursts is all the more rewarding.
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:32am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Gosh…
  
  How do the Maori Party folk deny/decry the existence of their immigrant forebears?
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:42am
  - Flossie
    
    The female Maori Party MP would not have ever been born had her mother not immigrated, from I believe Ireland.
    
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    July 22, 2022 8:46am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Rawiri Waititi was celebrating his Irish ancestry after the rugby last Saturday night, noting that the Irish too had been “colonised”.
      
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      July 22, 2022 10:23am
      - Suze Wainwright
        
        I’m pretty sure Annette Sykes has Irish pedigree too (might be wrong, but it’s definitely someone similar to her, if not actually her).
        
        She revels in it too, because the Irish are also an ‘oppressed people.’
        
        I bet my victimhood background is way bigger than your victimhood background…
        
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        July 22, 2022 10:46am
      - MiddleclassTrash
        
        Didn’t the Scots, an Irish tribe, invade & settle Caledonia, which became Scotland? There was a period when Irish Kings regularly raided England.
        If you really want to upset some of these race grifters, look them in the eye and say:
        “Terrible news mate. We’re the same.”
        
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        July 22, 2022 11:24am
      - Flossie
        
        And didn’t the Romans invade Britain? Let’s make the Italians pay compensation to the Poms!
        
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        July 22, 2022 12:06pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        In 1821 Ireland had 6.8million, Scotland 2.1million, Wales 0.8 million, between them nearly equalling England’s 10.8million. 200 years later Ireland has only about 5 million.
        
        Irish potato famine was the best thing that ever happened to Irish genes – the millions who fled are the ancestors of 100’s of millions around the world today.
        
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        July 22, 2022 12:57pm
  - Matt Long
    
    It’s the Land of the Wrong White Crowd who ruined nirvana. The Moari settlers lived in harmony with nature and each other.
    
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    July 22, 2022 8:52am
    - Suze Wainwright
      
      Don’t stop there – they explored Antarctica in the 1400s/1500s!
      
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      July 22, 2022 9:56am
      - G152
        
        Those ice breaker waka and thermal flax undies
        
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        July 22, 2022 12:54pm
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      Surely “diversity” is a colonial import, is it not, along with liberalism itself, the latter being the broad scheme under which ideas like egalitarianism and indigenous rights stand.
      
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      July 22, 2022 12:46pm
  - Nickc2
    
    If they repeat the lie often enough . . . . . . . well, you get the message.
    My mate Wirimu from Ruatoria just said ya can’t deny it Nick, Moriori’s existence isn’t mentioned in the new Aotearoa scholastic history curriculum eh?
    
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    July 22, 2022 9:16am
  - Cinematic
    
    Maori separated from the ‘colonisers’ by not even a blink in time in evolutionary terms.
    
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    July 22, 2022 9:27am
  - pdm
    
    How would they field a Maori All Black team over the years – George Mahupuku, Christian Cullen and Brad Weber to name 3 over the years.
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:55am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Exactly Maggy. Those whalers & sealers, once described as the flotsam & jetsam of the Pacific, brought no women with them. Any descendants are by definition what are usually referred to these days as ‘Maori’.
    
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    July 22, 2022 9:16pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  I note the MSM here and everywhere isnt telling the truth about the collapse of the Sri Lankan economy because it doesnt fit their narrative.
  In 2019 the Government banned fertiliser to “fix Climate Change”.
  The crops failed and have kept on failing. This will happen to any agri economy like ours.
  But of course the Left particularly the Greens would rather have us all die of starvation than admit they are wrong and that humans have little impact on ‘Climate Change”.
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:41am
  - fernglas
    
    Sri Lanka stopped importing fertiliser because it had run out of foreign currency to buy it. They tried to cover up this failure by pretending it was a green initiative. Green policy was a useful scapegoat for corruption.
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:08am
    - grumpy
      
      Or….,they got sucked into the Green anti Nitrate scare (as is happening now in New Zealand), banned import of synthetic fertilisers, agricultural production fell, went broke?
      Chicken and egg stuff.
      
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      July 22, 2022 10:42am
    - alloytoo
      
      Either way, the “Green” policy failed.
      
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      July 22, 2022 2:04pm
  - Scott
    
    According to powerline it was the decision of the government to ban synthetic fertiliser at the behest of the green lobby. The government implemented totally organic farming. Organic farming is nice for those who can afford it but it doesn’t work to feed the actual population of the country.
    
    As a result there were severe food shortages, the people rose up and rioted, the government fell. There is a new government now that will hopefully have some common sense.
    
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/another-green-catastrophe.php
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:42am
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    No matter the particular means, “reducing emissions” necessarily entails a significant diminution in standards of living (for the vast majority of us, not those pushing climate change panic, of course). “Transitioning to green energy” is also a euphemism, meaning huge taxpayer-funded capital investment in order to create the required infrastructure, with a concomitant decline in the availability, efficiency and affordability of energy. In other words, a select few will become exceedingly richer, while everyone else sinks into poverty, all on the most spurious and fanciful of justifications. But they can’t tell the mindless climate-cultists this, because they would immediately renounce their cult membership.
    
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    July 22, 2022 1:01pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  Memo to Cindy and Grant.
  I run a Widget making company. Demand for my widgets is 1000 per day but I can only make 750. There is a chronic shortage of Widget makers. I eventually find some Widget makers but have to pay them $10 an hour more than my staff. Because I want to keep my existing staff I increase their pay by $10 an hour.
  Thats means my labour costs rise so in order to maintain my Gross Margin I have to increase the price of my Widgets. I can know make 1000 Widgets a day but my customers have to pay more for them. As I make good Widgets they are happy to pay as they pass the cost onto their customers who in turn pass their increased costs on to their customers.
  Its called inflation caused by demand exceeding supply resulting in rising prices.
  Now children I hope you understand what inflation is.
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:53am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Memo to lastmanstanding from Cindy & Chief Thief Robber(tson):
    
    Dear lastmanstanding,
    
    Since you are somehow maintaining your gross margin, we consider you as a rich prick and hence we expect you to pay more tax. Hope you will like our 45% tax on income over 220K to be imposed from the FY 24-25. Being a small business we can count on you vote Labour like you did in 2020 election. Paying a little more extra tax will get you world class healthcare for your family and education for your children and grandchildren. We have been fooling Kiwis with this statement since 1999 and they fall for it every time. Suckers!!! LoL.
    
    OK bye for now. Need to do lot of thinking about how to spend other people’s money.
    
    Cindy & Robber
    
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    July 22, 2022 12:45pm
CJames

I wonder how (or more likely, if) Dan Wootton’s conversation on Brendan O’Neill’s podcast will be reported: https://www.spiked-online.com/podcast-episode/jacinda-arderns-covid-tyranny/
Dan is definitely not seduced by Jacindamania – calling her a PM for Twitter is one of his nicer comments. Winston Peters is described as NZ’s Nigel Farage, which I think belittles the latter. He praised Ms Bellis and slags off at how the media don’t do any scrutiny on the PM but worship her. Both Dan and Brendan describe them as like the media in UK being addicted to fear. They are also of the opinion that it was the MSM that brought down Boris because he wouldn’t lock the country down, and that the Conservatives are by far the best of a very bad bunch. Harry & Meagan are called deeply unpleasant liars.
I don’t think there will be any wedding invite for Dan. And he won’t care.
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July 22, 2022 8:00am
- kowtow
  
  Bellis was/is a media darling as she is the media. She was a front for the Taliban at that press conference.
  Bojo brought himself down by abandoning conservative principles ( if he ever had any) and becoming a Green in all but name . I’m sick to death of people claiming he’s Churchillian , anything but.
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:32am
- Sacha
  
  Little Dan with the dual citizenship speaks with a lofty know-it-all and off-putting voice. I lasted about 2 minutes.
  Absolutely no-0ne I come across likes the PM. It’s surprising how often a casual encounter with a stranger spontaneously brings up the subject of her (and the government’s in general) adequacy in the role. She seems to be regarded as somewhat stupid, ignorant, malevolent, evasive – and so on. And the unspoken word is that she won’t get their vote next year. Haven’t heard about her going to the UN lately – I don’t think anyone cares, just get her gone!
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:32am
- Philview
  
  It would be interesting to get a subscription to read the comments underneath the podcast. Dan is spot on about the NZ media but doesn’t mention or isn’t aware that there are financial implications which Ardern is manipulating. I have read plenty of Dan’s commentary about NZ but I haven’t seen any discussion on the threat to democracy by the Ardern Government. Dan’s recent media spat with Mallard revealed that Mallard is or was some kind of family friend to the Woottons.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:28am
Warren

It was only a mater of time before Megan Woods the Housing Minister who had her wings clipped overthe Kainga Ora debt she has accumulated which experts believe will take 60 years to pay off for future generations is at it again by delving into the contestable $1 billion Excellaration Fund which was created by Finance Minister Grant Robertson by swiping it out of the Covid-19 fund.
This again is a bribe for votes at the 2023 Election by a Labour Party in Government and have their failed Kiwibuild program hit the headlines again with more promises for thousands of new houses to be built in the next decade.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/07/government-reveals-towns-receiving-new-infrastructure-funding-to-support-8000-homes-over-20-years.html
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July 22, 2022 8:00am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Firstly when you look at the area, it it’s deep in Māori electorates, I bet this is forged towards Māori. Secondly when you open up a subdivision you already pay through the consenting process for the infrastructure, is this yet another three water attempt to shaft councils? Is it the start without the words at giving Māori the land to charge for consents? Who knows, but it’s starting to stink to all high heavens as Andrew Little says.
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:29am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    I’m not sure what you mean by “deep in Maori electorates”. Every single house built in New Zealand is deep in a Maori electorate – they cover the entire country.
    
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    July 22, 2022 9:53am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Electorates where many Māori are on the Māori roll, not sure if you have noticed, but TM are gone well in polls, they have taken votes from Labour, a couple of these places are out snd out bribes in heaven populated Māori seats
      
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      July 22, 2022 11:10am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Word of advice G.
        Read your comments before you hit “post comment”.
        Many of you comments are almost unintelligible because of your spelling mistakes, or they give the opposite meaning to what you wish to say.
        
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        July 22, 2022 12:03pm
- Pavel
  
  I had a good chuckle when I read that article yesterday. Would make a great Tui billboard, “We’ll build 8000 houses in 20 years, yeah right”.
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:31am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    400 per year – just over one a day. Really? Seriously?
    Best have a pie while I think about that.
    
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    July 22, 2022 9:32am
    - tf78
      
      I think it was over about five different regions.
      
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      July 22, 2022 10:08am
      - Paulus
        
        Omokoroa, outside Tauraanga, was 2,450 houses of her expectations – over 20 years !
        
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        July 22, 2022 10:33am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Is that the new District Health Regions?
        That is a fucking lot of Govt funded pies
        
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        July 22, 2022 4:16pm
- Paulus
  
  Woods does not care about it – it is not her problem to fix it like all othr Labour “Expectations”.
  She will be gone to some well paid sinecure with her PhD.
  They do not care what they say –
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:31am
Simon

Prison population
2018 10,600,
2022 7,700

There is your crime wave. All National have to do is promise to scoop the shit off the streets. But they wont.
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July 22, 2022 8:05am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Maybe you need to listen to Mark Mitchell a bit more Simon…
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:15am
  - Frank the tank
    
    In fairness he has been better in the last 6 months but let’s be honest Tony, he started from a very, very low base.
    
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    July 22, 2022 8:22am
  - Matt Long
    
    Is National promising to reinstate 3 strikes.
    
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    July 22, 2022 8:22am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Yes, and so is Act.
      
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      July 22, 2022 8:28am
      - Nickc2
        
        Yes, reinstate it by all means, but how do we make its implementation compulsory, given our over compliment of limp-wristed Judges?
        
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        July 22, 2022 8:41am
      - Thought Criminal
        
        Retrospectively though. So all previous crimes count? So it’s like labour never cancelled it?
        
        And can it be upgraded to stop judges deliberately blocking it?
        
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        July 22, 2022 9:10am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Next govt can write laws any way they choose to, there are no limits on what laws they pass – so incorporating past offences accumulated under old legislation, but ‘cancelled’ by this govt would be entirely possible.
        
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        July 22, 2022 9:14am
      - Cassandra
        
        Are you sure, Tony? Act certainly – I’ve yet to hear from National. Do you have a link?
        
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        July 22, 2022 9:33am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      They will, and they may well count strikes that were done which are still being counted as a strike at present.
      
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      July 22, 2022 8:35am
      - leoj
        
        I have no confidence in your confidence.
        National’s history agrees with me.
        The ONLY way that National will move, kicking and screaming from their centre-left, mostly Labour-agreeing position, is if the country party votes ACT.
        And ACT aren’t perfect either.
        The entire government cowered behind the curtains during the protest. The Nats signed a paper agreeing with Labour re the protesters.
        That is YOUR National party for you.
        A bunch of miscreants.
        They are all a f***ing disgrace.
        
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        July 22, 2022 10:24am
    - peterwn
      
      That was Simon Bridge’s policy. Chris Luxon could decide that it is vote detrimental, although this seems unlikely with the high number of ram raids and West Auckland shootings.
      
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      July 22, 2022 8:37am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Not talking about Bridges st all, listen yo what the spokesman for police is saying FFS, they are going to be tough on crime
        
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        July 22, 2022 11:12am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      My comment below is in the wrong place, my error.
      How about a 3 strikes system for dudges?
      
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      July 22, 2022 9:40am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Dudges ? Do you mean Judges ?
        
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        July 22, 2022 11:15am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yes Gary, ‘Dudges
        
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        July 22, 2022 5:20pm
  - Simon
    
    This is National’s crime policy? Its policy to assist police. Nothing about sentencing. Is it another big secret? or simply not reported? Scoop the shit off the street. Get the scum back into prison. Where is that the explicit policy?
    
    If elected next year, there are four new tools we will provide police to better crack down on gangs:
    
    We will ban gang patches and insignia in public spaces, removing a key tactic commonly used to intimidate innocent people.
    We will provide police with the power to issue dispersal notices to anyone they reasonably suspect is associated with a gang, allowing them to break up gang gatherings more easily.
    
    We will also provide police with the ability to issue Consorting Prohibition Notices, preventing gang members from associating or communicating with other gang members.
    
    Finally, and most importantly, police will be given the tools they need to stop gang members from accessing firearms by issuing Firearm Prohibition Orders, something I attempted to introduce through a Members Bill last year only for the Government to vote it down.
    
    https://www.times.co.nz/uncategorized/a-national-government-will-tackle-gangs-and-crime/
    
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    July 22, 2022 9:00am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      You do realise sentencing is nothing to do with policing? You do understand that is the judiciary, snd comes in the justice portfolio? You do understand the Nats are not going to deliver final policy until the end of this year start of next? You go understand that Labour have never had policy?
      
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      July 22, 2022 11:17am
  - herb1
    
    Not sure why Labour haven’t noticed the policy of prison reduction wouldn’t be a fix for their failure with the health failures.
    By simply declaring certain illnesses as not being edible for hospital, such as cancer , Heart troubles, fat related etc.
    Hospital numbers would be dramatically lowered and the resulting surge in deaths could be declared COVID related, allowing the PM to preach from the pulpit about following her mask rules. Win win for Labour and the PM
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:48am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Don’t talk crap, they have bowed. To be tough on crime again, are you saying they will limp wristedly leave the empty the jails at all cost mentality? If so you are going dirty filthy work for small parties
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:31am
- I remember when
  
  Simple? Simon.
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:46am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Special K said they are all good boys
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:35am
Yvette

Had Ardern met the first few protesters to arrive outside Parliament, or a representative on her behalf, and said a delegation of ten would be received inside to express their views – when they had decided what those were – those already there would have had to tell the rest when they assembled and called for Ardern to come out, that ”She’s done that already!”

Now since – Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has confirmed that public consultation on co-governance with Māori will begin later in 2022
but – The closing date for submissions on the Water Services Entities Bill – including the clauses establishing co-governance [1] – close 11.59pm Friday, 22 July 2022 – like, today.
So when we ask about the public consultation on co-governance. we will be told –
”She’s done that already!”

Checkmate!
Do you want to play again, this time for General Elections?

Your only action left now may be to gather outside Parliament and protest.
Please re-read first paragraph above.

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[1]
45. Establishment and membership of regional advisory panels
(1) The constitution of a water services entity may establish 1 or more regional advisory panels.
(2) Each regional advisory panel must include an equal number of— (a) territorial authority panel members; and  (b) mana whenua panel members.
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July 22, 2022 8:06am
- pdm
  
  But but but Yvette – all of us who sent in submissions on 3Waters and said they wanted to present to the select committee will definitely be heard, perhaps, maybe!!!!
  
  Woohoo did anyone else see that pig and that elephant flying past their window?
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:23am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Did a pig have lipstick at the window? Asking for a plonker in douth Dunedin 😃
    
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    July 22, 2022 8:37am
  - Yvette
    
    As for some of the concerns councils had about the reforms – such as the lack of more direct control over their assets under the reform programme’s creation of four regional water entities and its co-governance model – Ardern said the Parliamentary submissions process would work through the finer details
    https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/07/20/three-waters-debates-need-to-be-based-on-fact-ardern/
    
    Pdf, the “submissions process would work through the finer details” –
    so rest in peace. Like, RIP
    
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    July 22, 2022 9:49am
- Nickc2
  
  WRT 45 above, that’s one way of reducing Maori unemployment to zero. They’ll all be on one or more taxpayer-funded Advisory Panels, with their newborns signed up for jobs for life.
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:53am
  - Yvette
    
    Nickc2 – these are positions for Maori elite, many already with many positions.
    It is nothing to do with “reducing Maori unemployment”
    
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    July 22, 2022 9:53am
    - Nickc2
      
      I was working on the new age premise that all Maori are elite, even if they’re not.
      
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      July 22, 2022 10:31am
Swifty

The currently suspended head of the Film Commission thinks it’s perfectly fine that he applies for and is awarded funding for his own personal film projects:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018850311/drama-behind-the-scenes-at-film-commission

Words fail me.
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July 22, 2022 8:06am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  You wait till he receives the funding before you are failed
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:38am
Simon

According to the National wing of Clown World immigration restrictions are causing inflation – as there are not the workers to produce causing a shortage of goods and services which feeds higher prices. National also claim government spending is causing inflation.

Obvious solution: Start closing down useless government departments – free up people, and cut regulation – freeing up people who just admin regulation. The resulting surplus labour can be used to meet the market demand for goods and services. For example RNZ employees could become pizza shop employees.

Problem: National are part of Clown World.
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July 22, 2022 8:07am
- Matt Long
  
  True enough, if the government wasn’t so intent on hiring most of the population to kill the productivity of the few remaining producers worker shortages would be considerably less.
  The Government hires people to make stupid compliance roadblocks, then the private sector either hires people or consultants to meet the compliance great for employment, not so good for building wealth and a sustainable economy.
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:28am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  So they are opposing this diabolical imagination policy, but they are too blame? And you wonder why Act are losing party votes
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:40am
- I remember when
  
  We are lucky to have you to look after Clown World.
  Just a question, has administration and public relations grown to fill the gap left by the middle management job losses.
  More importantly is administration now a part of the effort to reduce unemployment.
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:12am
- Opie
  
  As if a woke government employee on 100k plus a year is going make pizzas or take the money from ferals at a petrol station.
  
  I definitely agree on closing down realistically most government departments but 90% of these idiots will stay unemployed because they don’t want to do real work they deem beneath them. So you still end up with no one doing the work and the employment rate rises and we either go into full recession or the government pays them out with some sort of redundancy scheme, causing even more loss of productivity and costs to the rest.
  
  The cold hard reality is that for anyone with aspiration, entry level jobs here do not pay enough to allow a standard of living that meets our expectation, so you would be mad to stay here.
  
  Many immigrants have completely different standards (due to situation in their home country) and are happy with the income from an entry level job or to work 60 hours to put just enough food on the table for the week.
  
  At least they want to work. We have 100k on the jobseeker that can’t be fucked working.
  
  Regarding the “entry level” jobs, it’s either immigrants who want to work, or get the cousins of the couch who dont. Who would you rather talk to in a shop?
  
  In terms of let’s call them professional jobs, we simply don’t have enough qualified workers here in every sector.
  
  It’s simple – if you have a qualification and are coming here to a job in your field it’s automatic residency. Leave the field within 3 years and your gone.
  
  If you disagree, keep enjoying 12 hours in Ed to be sent home and 6 weeks to get your car serviced or a builder around and then complain how much they charge. I asked a guy if he wanted to do a $15k job yesterday which had about $6k profit in it. Na can’t be fucked. Wasn’t even a hard job.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:03am
- Stephen Russell
  
  I’m not sure how many of those civil servants have the skills to make pizza.
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:23am
Swifty

Several years ago Human Rights Commission staffer Taine Polkinghorne said:

“‘There is no valid reason to exclude trans women from competitive women’s sports. Laurel is a woman – not a man masquerading as a woman to gain medals or glory.”

https://expressdigest.com/nz-transgender-weightlifter-is-not-masquerading-as-woman/

I wondered then and I still wonder how the HRC arrived at this stance. What was the process that resulted in them taking this position?

Were, for example, the human rights of natural women taken into account – i.e. the right not to be forced to compete against biological men?

More so, given the massive pushback we’ve seen in the years since from people right across society – I wonder whether Taine Polkinghorne and the HRC still maintain this position?

Have they ever considered that they were and are wrong?
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July 22, 2022 8:14am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Is that the Laurel woman who busted a testicle while training?
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:45am
  - Swifty
    
    Can’t be – women don’t have testicles.
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:06am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Want a bet?
      
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      July 22, 2022 11:27am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Oh boy! That deserves 100 upticks!!
        
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        July 23, 2022 8:47am
- Loddenthinks
  
  The very best thing to do with regards to the Human Rights Commission is to ignore them completely. They are in irrelevance, an anachronism, a waste of time, space and money.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:40am
  - Swifty
    
    The Labour Party Policy Unit otherwise known as the Human Rights Commission should be disbanded.
    
    They have failed and continue to fail in understanding and championing one of the greatest human rights of all – the right of people to be free from state coercion in their private lives.
    
    Even worse, the Equal Opportunities Commissioner actively lauds and applauds state coercion and calls for more and more of it to force NZers to bend to her whim!
    
    If she really wanted to advance opportunities for Pacific and Maori as well as the rest of New Zealanders she should be lambasting the appalling education they receive at the hands of the state education monopoly where roughly half leave barely able to read, write or add up a shopping list.
    
    But instead we hear nothing about that and focussed on demonising employers and business owners. Easy targets.
    
    Defund them!
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:57am
G152

Building site next to me is a folly.
They took the earth away and replaced it.
Then they dug holes in that earth and laid pipes.
More earth nicely rolled and compacted.
Then they dug up parts and now theyve put in the services, gas, power and I presume fibre in newly dug trenches.
And in doing so dug up a newly laid waste water line.
I want to see them build a church there now since its ‘holey’ ground
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July 22, 2022 8:16am
Frank the tank

So as July dribbles to a close the overriding feeling out there in non-corporate business is that things are too tough.

Our small business of 20-odd employees for the first time in 50 years in likely to go on the block for sale as are many in our industry. The daily slog of sickness, absenteeism, lack of staff, increasing costs, increasing compliance and regulation coupled with expectation of staff for more income for no more output is too much – it is not worth the hassle, struggle or effort when there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

Don’t feel sorry for ourselves as we’ll get our cash out however it means that another NZ owned business will be swallowed up by (likely Australian) a consolidator and the end customer will lose. The negative cumulative effect on the New Zimbabwean economy of this activity can’t be discounted.

I can’t but be cynical and believe those in power are supportive of this trend to corporatize this country. More and more I can see the invisible hand of the WEF in local actions.
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July 22, 2022 8:18am
- Sacha
  
  So the WEF is now confident of showing its hand?
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:41am
  - Frank the tank
    
    I think we are fast approaching that although it appears they just lost their grip on Italy. Hopefully that will stem the tide for a while.
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:22am
- MCōs
  
  What causes the absenteeism?
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:34am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Where do I start Cosy….Let’s go then in no particular order:
    
    1). Kungflu
    2). Cold and seasonal illness
    3). Mental Health
    4). Family emergencies
    5). Just not turning up
    
    Since the sick leave has been doubled and provisions for mental issues put in place every wage earner has close to doubled their days away from work.
    
    This is not just us – this is country wide. Every employer we talk to has the same issues. Every employee is now taking the piss and if you go hard at them, they just leave due to A LOT of alternative jobs at the moment.
    
    This is not conducive to productivity yet the government and the bureaucracy seem hell bent on this ideological change currently being pushed through business.
    
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    July 22, 2022 2:02pm
    - cjn
      
      My hairdresser is complaining of this too. A 30 year old business clinging to life.
      
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      July 22, 2022 7:31pm
- RichardX
  
  “More and more I can see the invisible hand of the WEF in local actions.”
  
  Your problem may be that you are seeing something that you claim is invisible.
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:15am
  - kowtow
    
    Like Greta and CO2.
    
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    July 22, 2022 1:13pm
  - Frank the tank
    
    You’re like a stupid employee that you tell to find the corner in the round room and they come back 25 minutes later saying they can’t find it.
    
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    July 22, 2022 2:04pm
Matt Long

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/perinatal-suicide-tragedy-husband-speaks-out-after-wifes-devastating-death-following-battle-with-depression-anxiety/ZBMTZLJQRRI75MBUY734TDVZCM/
One of my worst regrets is I spent the last day of my best friend’s life listening to the morons of the Interim Climate Change Commission spouting such pearls to a farmer manipulation meeting as “the way to save the planet is to eat less meat.”
I made the decision to drive past his house to have a rest after a day of mind numbing bullshit, the next day all I could do was bury the pool of blood.
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July 22, 2022 8:19am
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

more S**t from stuff today https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/explained/129337251/covid19-nz-whats-going-on-with-the-current-omicron-wave
it was never likely to reach 20,000 cases per day, they never suggested that number. the stuffed “journalist” faithfully peddled the bulkshit from Baker & other experts who have been wrong ever single f**ken time. today when proven wrong do stuff question the impending doom they peddled? not likely, more public interest funding due. meanwhile schools implementing masks for kids next week, masks that don’t stop spread of covid. accountability no longer exists adern thinks that’s a town in Italy.
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July 22, 2022 8:21am
- Cinematic
  
  I literally don’t know anyone who gives a shit about omicron anymore. Apart from the inherently lazy that test and test and test for a week off.
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:33am
  - cjn
    
    Like Joe Biden?
    
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    July 22, 2022 7:33pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

We have been played, Fauci has been lying and covering up for 2 years. A Dr Birx said that it probably didn’t happen on purpose.
The Civid Virus did not come from nature, CAME OUT OF A BOX READY TO INFECT!
https://redrightvideos.com/dr-birx-confirms-covid-didnt-come-from-nature-came-out-of-a-box-ready-to-infect/
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July 22, 2022 8:25am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Those crooked RINOs are not going to stop, they are looking after their own arses. Anything to stop Trump.
https://redrightvideos.com/crooked-rinos-join-democrats-to-stop-anyone-from-challenging-election-results/
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July 22, 2022 8:28am
Benedict Yu

Oh no 🙁 This was funded by New Zealand On Air in 2020.

This is my favourite part of the promotion flyer:

“Wiles is clearly stressed that the virus could run rampant, but cries with happiness when Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced a full lockdown.”

So so revealing 🙁

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/taxpayers-fund-dr-siouxsie-wiles-documentary/OKSXI5YSCMDKQG2Z7QCL3GCBEM/

“Publicity material for the short film states:

‘Director Gwen Isaac intended to fly to Japan to make a film about a Kiwi mixed martial arts fighter in early 2020 — then Covid-19 hit. Instead, she shot a battle of another kind — scientist Dr Siouxsie Wiles trying to convince Kiwis the country should be locked down to keep out Covid-19.

‘Isaac interviewed the pink-haired microbiologist in late March 2020 for this short Loading Docs documentary. Wiles is clearly stressed that the virus could run rampant, but cries with happiness when Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced a full lockdown. The five-week lockdown initially kept NZ Covid-19 free for around 100 days. ‘”
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July 22, 2022 8:32am
- ClanMcleod
  
  A very large cab kicked down the road.
  Wiles is a pseudo intellectual with no relevant qualifications regarding covid. Her sense of self importance and lack of humility or ability to admit she was wrong is only bettered by Michael Baker.
  These so called experts are frauds who at the very least should lose their jobs. Baker in reality should be facing charges. He is a liar as we saw when he denied on live radio ever having said that masks are totally ineffective in stopping aerosol based viruses. There is video evidence proving that comment was a flagrant lie.
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:45am
  - Tomtoddy
    
    Hi CM.
    I recall seeing an item where Baker said twice masks were useless or not needed and then his now claim that they are critically important. Can you reference it please?
    
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    July 22, 2022 8:57am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Tomtoddy – this 2 minute video will tell you all you need to know. That Baker is a liar.
      
      https://rumble.com/v1cjmox-july-16-2022.html
      
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      July 22, 2022 9:15am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      I also posted a link in yesterday’s GD to a post from another blog that discussed this, and showed the clip.
      
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      July 22, 2022 10:45am
- Matt Long
  
  A Sioux warrior would have loved that pink hair.
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:48am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Only the gay ones//
    
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    July 22, 2022 9:27am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  100 days COVID free I say bullshit, when you think back we were told there was no COVID cases in the community, she did her vulgar little dance. After a 100 days magically we had 4 cases at the border, and from that day on there has been border cases every single day, are we supposed to vive magically I again that in that 100 days there was no COVID cases at the border. As I say it’s bullshit snd we were lied to again
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:58am
- kowtow
  
  Will it include the beach scene .
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:14am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Hopefully it’s not a naked beach scene !
    
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    July 22, 2022 11:56am
- patreon_36178434
  
  The Herald appear to have taken this article down !!!!
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    The 404 page has a subscribe tab at the top right
    
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    July 22, 2022 9:54am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Link is a dead end – unless I subscribe to the horrid
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:25am
Swifty

Equal Employment Opportunities commissioner Saunoamaali’i Karanina Sumeo demonstrates her unsoundness for her role.

I paraphrase her:

“The causes of the racial pay gap are unexplained by our research – but we are absolutely sure it is down to racism, bias and discrimination by and from NZ business owners.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/129303796/big-part-of-ethnic-pay-gap-unexplained-raises-questions-of-racism

International research and analysis provides many, many other reasons behind these blunt racial pay gap numbers – but these are airily waved away by those who have an agenda to demonise NZ business owners and then use state coercion to force upon businesses more and more regulation, compliance, complexity and cost – and all under the threat of fines or imprisonment.

But wait what’s this?

“She was also in favour of legislation for pay transparency so workplaces would be required to collect ethnicity data.

“To take the onus off Pacific people to stand up for themselves and put the duty on our businesses, our employers to do the right thing.”

With Auckland having the bulk of Pacific workers (71 percent) the city’s businesses should have managers who possessed “culture competence”.

She said one example was that a Pacific person found it intimidating to be interviewed by a panel of four people.”

Sumeo concedes that there are other factors at play here and mentions two – Pacific assertiveness when it comes to asking for more pay and feeling culturally uncomfortable in interview settings other New Zealanders find perfectly normal.

And her answer? New Zealanders should have to change to accommodate Pacific cultural norms and quirks!!!!

FFS. This is a major problem here – so-called community leaders treating Pacific people as victims, children and unable to look after themselves.

Chinese immigrants must be laughing their asses off.
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July 22, 2022 8:44am
- Hebe123
  
  I don’t know many people who don’t hate job interviews or asking for pay rises. It’s not the “kiwi way” to talk about money.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:05am
  - Swifty
    
    I don’t particularly like getting out of bed on these cold mornings – but I have to if I want to keep the cat fed.
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:27am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Chinese folk generally tune out from such things.
  
  An incoming government could draw up a list of appointments similiar to the “Equal Employment Opportunities Commissioner”, and simply put a line through them. You could easily find 100 or so folk like this, with at least another 500 – 1000 staffers.
  
  And the great thing is that you could abolish them all and nobody would notice. Literally.
  
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  July 22, 2022 12:36pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

CNN reporting…. “President Biden tests POSITIVE for Covid”.

WHOOPSIE! 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1550130370883964931
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July 22, 2022 8:47am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, he only got two boosters you see rather than one every 30 days. Good God why do world leaders bring out the covid card when things get tough…. Trudeau, Ardern, Johnson?
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:54am
  - leoj
    
    The vaccine is great, isn’t it.
    SO effective.
    Do world leaders even THINK before making such announcements?
    Double vaxxed, double boosted yet still catches the virus.
    The world is being governed by idiots and the same idiots are parroted by the lame-stream media.
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:44am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      That’s the thing. You could never get Jacinda to admit that the vaccine is ineffective. Even today. Because it would mean that the ‘vaccine passports’ were based on junk evidence.
      
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      July 22, 2022 12:38pm
- emmess
  
  Oh no and Joe Biden just announced that he has cancer as well
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lHuSLHhRZk
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:58am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He told us he had cancer , I wonder if he meant COVID, hope he doesn’t poop him self again
  
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  July 22, 2022 8:59am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    What was on the teleprompter?
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:04am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He doesn’t know
      
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      July 22, 2022 10:47am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Hopefully there is “I’m Ron Burgundy?” moment
      
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      July 22, 2022 11:00am
- krazykiwi
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:14am
- krazykiwi
  
  He is quad-vaxxed. And as fate would have it, his illness was announced on 21st July 2022 which was 12 months to the day from this pearl:
  
  The White House’s chief coordinator for the U.S. coronavirus response has a strong warning for unvaccinated Americans ahead of a projected surge in cases over the next few weeks.
  
  If you’re vaccinated, “we’ve done the right thing, and we will get through this,” White House COVID coordinator Jeff Zients said.
  
  “For the unvaccinated, you’re looking at a winter of severe illness and death for yourselves, your families and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm.”
  
  What shit advice. More vaccination = more infections, more illness, and more deaths
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:17am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yep yep, we know the vax does not work as a vax, more of a treatment if anything, I am triple vax, I still got it, I have had worse colds, it can’t have even been compared to a flu, it gave me hey fever like symptoms
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:50am
- Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
  
  I heard it was Cancer and Asthma, mind you that came from Joe himself so unlikely thats turse and more likely the dementia kicking in.
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:38am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Biden – teleprompter.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUCaIYJWQnA
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:12am
Inandout

Foot and mouth rampant in Indonesia, tourists can bring the virus back home especially those who hide food in their suitcases. The Aussies are ruthless with those who try to sneak food through but this country just says ‘naughty, naughty’ unless the amount of loot is massive. Vegans may cheer but F&M could completely destroy our economy.
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July 22, 2022 8:49am
- RightNow
  
  I just returned from Bali via Australia.
  In Australia they didn’t check anything.
  In NZ they put all my footwear through a cleaning process.
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:36am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    That cleaning process has only started, possibly this week, or maybe last, several people have been going to Bali, this roll decimate the country, snd what’s the bet it gets in, they say no farm activity for a year
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:52am
  - Bluegrass
    
    In transit air-side.
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:45pm
- Hebe123
  
  The government are going to destroy farming one way or another. Do they care how they do it?
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:07am
  - MCōs
    
    Get a grip
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:38am
    - leoj
      
      Greens have always been anti-farming.
      Get a grip yourself….
      
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      July 22, 2022 10:46am
      - MCōs
        
        Whatever current Greenthink is they are not the government.
        
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        July 22, 2022 12:20pm
      - leoj
        
        Dear MCos:
        
        Greens were in govt 2017 to 2020, if you recall.
        
        Labour and Greens are tarred with the same brush.
        
        Both are morons.
        
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        July 22, 2022 2:09pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      So you have not noticed farmers being booted snd booted hard?
      
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      July 22, 2022 10:54am
      - Matt Long
        
        The comrades don’t wish to destroy farming, it’s farmers they would like to wipe out.
        In the safe hands of the state the proletariat agriculture will grow to new heights, like Sri Lanka.
        You’ll note the Regressives talk about their water, their lands and resources.
        
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        July 22, 2022 12:44pm
    - than
      
      Sri Lanka is getting a good grip of green policies right now.
      
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      July 22, 2022 9:07pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They had better be careful how they tread, because people are on their case now saying as much, we are one knee jerk reaction away from oblivion
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:53am
  - Stephen Russell
    
    Hanlon’s Razor: Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity.
    
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    July 22, 2022 11:31am
    - Chris Nisbet
      
      When it comes to governments I think there are good-sized portions of both.
      
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      July 22, 2022 2:20pm
- Sacha
  
  I expect the Greens would quite like to see the dairy industry demolished, but they can expect retaliation if by any chance the disease gets over the border.
  
  https://www.mpi.govt.nz/biosecurity/plans-for-responding-to-serious-disease-outbreaks/foot-and-mouth-disease/about-foot-and-mouth-disease/
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:29am
I remember when

When the British fires were shown on the TV news they displayed the danger that fire presents.
With this in mind, it is something that needs to be front and centre whenever we attempt to rescue or reduce the extermination tide.
Or, save the world.
During a drought, or dry summer, what would happen if a ‘regenerating area’ caught on fire, deliberate or otherwise.
What actions are needed to prevent ‘wilding’ areas becoming fire hazards.
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July 22, 2022 9:01am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  What actions are needed to prevent ‘wilding’ areas becoming fire hazards.
  
  Keep humans with ignition sources well away from dry tinder/grass.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:12am
Maggy Wassilieff

An Australian Law Professor takes a look at the He Puapua report currently being enacted by our Labour Government.

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/professor-james-allan-report-on-he-puapua?postId=e7ea6a26-5a52-4402-97d9-8059ba2e3f4a&utm_campaign=495f3b00-9001-412b-8d7d-7726049dbaf9&utm_source=so&utm_medium=mail&utm_content=25750664-8d95-4860-b925-4d9b9e878892&cid=97dcfc5a-d72f-4e9e-8f08-4ade510cfdc2
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July 22, 2022 9:02am
mandk

DemocracyNZ will be registered with the Electoral Commission today.

Bottom lines:
1. Entrench the NZ Bill of Rights
2. Take race out of everything
3. Respect private property rights.

Get my vote.
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July 22, 2022 9:03am
- Surely Knott
  
  Mine also.
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:57am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Entrenchment means nothing in NZ – it’s nothing more than an generally agreed convention. REality is that govt can pass any law it likes with a simple majority.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:04am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Which will be Labour green if King takes 3% and no seat
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:57am
- leoj
  
  One thing is for sure…
  
  We cannot allow National to be the dominant party.
  
  They cannot be trusted.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:51am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    All that attitude will do is see Nats as the dominant force in the opposition, they is two choices, a Nat lead government, or a Labour Green MP shambles
    
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    July 22, 2022 12:05pm
    - leoj
      
      Of course they will be the dominant party of the next govt but they need a wake up from the right flank, otherwise, we get what we have now. More left-leaning crap because the Nats are gutless.
      
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      July 22, 2022 2:02pm
  - Paulus
    
    Don’t worry after today’s Judgement in favour of the NZ First Party (which was nothing to do with Winston) he will be back.
    
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    July 22, 2022 1:53pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  And when they get 3% and King does not win Northland, and you help usher in another term of damaging Cindy ? Pathetic, King has already stated he will not get 5% or even close
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:56am
  - mandk
    
    He certainly wasn’t saying that last night.
    
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    July 22, 2022 11:55am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I don’t bloody care what he said last night. He stated 5 or 6 weeks ago it will be impossible to get 5%, he was putting all his eggs in winning Northland which he has a slim chance of winning, if he loses, you’re vote is wasted and half goes to Cindy snd the lunatic greens and MP
      
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      July 22, 2022 2:04pm
- The Boss
  
  If National want to govern they must prevent the votes for Democracy NZ being wasted. The only solution is to allow Matt King to win Northland (Epsom type) and make Democracy NZ part of a coalition. That will also neutralise Te Pati Maori.
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:19am
  - mandk
    
    True.
    The Nats can’t rely on just one coalition/ confidence and supply partner.
    Labour can rely on two.
    
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    July 22, 2022 11:58am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Labour can not get in with two partners on current polls
      
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      July 22, 2022 2:08pm
      - mandk
        
        … on current polls.
        
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        July 22, 2022 3:41pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Agreed, but Key refused to do a deal with NC when that score 4%, I can’t see them doing a deal with this, if Nats King split the vote again, then Labour roll win the seat anyway
    
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    July 22, 2022 2:07pm
Thought Criminal

Resharing my fav joke.

How many Jacinda Ardern supporters does it take to change a light bulb?

None. She tells them it’s done, and they all clap in the dark
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July 22, 2022 9:15am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Can’t hear that one often enough.
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:52am
  - Thought Criminal
    
    Good. Because I’ll likely repost it again.
    
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    July 22, 2022 10:18am
Swifty

Silly, silly, silly young person sent out to work by modern-day Fagins, in the form of Debbie Ngarewa-Packer and Rawiri Waititi, are angry, angry, angry I tell you because the unstoppable force that was human migration reached these shores.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/129326845/youth-mps-prove-this-generation-deserves-to-be-heard

Interesting too that there was not one word of gratitude or even mention for the wonderful changes that this migration brought to a stone-age culture where invasion, warfare, land confiscation, butchery, early death, slavery and resource shortages were the norm.

Not a peep.

Ironic too that he claims anger for his loss while simultaneously looking very Pakeha and leading a quite privileged life which sees him, at a very early age, giving speeches in our House of Parliament and lauded in our news media.

Doesn’t sound to oppressed or victimised to me, but what do I know.

A cherry on the top in this article too is the young people calling for young people to be priced out of work opportunities through the elimination of the starting out wage. Talk about an own goal.

All in all this makes a very strong argument for the counter-argument for another item called for in the article – the lowering of the voting age to 16.

Seems to be that given the stupidity and silliness shown here that, if anything, the voting age should be raised – to prevent these silly ideas taking on any currency.
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July 22, 2022 9:29am
- Flossie
  
  I do not think any 16 year old should be allowed to vote.
  Our legal system says that anyone that young is to be tried in a Youth Court. And anyone under 18 cannot sign a legal contract. These laws are fair enough as 16 year olds have yet to fully mature. But they (some of them anyway) want to be able to vote?? Can’t have your cake and eat it!
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:17am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    16 year olds have to be able to vote. It’s the only way the f###ing Greens will be there in perpetuity.
    
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    July 22, 2022 11:33am
  - Sacha
    
    I wouldn’t mind them voting if the young were at all aware /educated on the responsibilities of being a voter, and choosing suitable people to govern.
    I have a distinct feeling that they would vote for the newest, starriest ‘personality’, without caring about the outcome.
    There was a reason that 21 was considered the age of adulthood: mostly completed education/work experience/life experience/ taxpayer and a critical interest in where their taxes were spent.
    
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    July 22, 2022 11:42am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  PM Ardern should have represented herself//
  
  End of the day, why don’t they all just go and get a job, instead of this childish rubbish?
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:22am
- MCōs
  
  “invasion, warfare, land confiscation, butchery, early death, slavery and resource shortages were the norm”
  My great grandfather left Ireland to get away from all that.
  I suspect a lot of other people left various other countries for the same reason & other people came here to exploit them and the Maori already here.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:47am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    What a bunch of garbage from the vanilla-faced ‘Maori’ in the youth parliament….that ‘his pepeha’ was STOLEN from him, and he only learnt it 5 years ago.
    Nobody stopped Maori from telling their children what their tribe was, what the tribal maunga or awa was. You can teach an eskimo a custom pepeha in 5 minutes.
    What utter crap. And here is this bozo worked up to vein bulging in forehead self-righteousness & applauded for it.
    We are just cultivating toxic grievance culture.
    The worst part is how a-historical and anti-intellectual and unhelpful all the heightened emotion is.
    
    MCos, NZ early history/contact is not so black and white. No need to make races into cardboard cut-outs.
    The reasons that land speculators, missionaries, whalers, settlers, explorers, bankers and such came here were varied.
    They all came her for aspirational reasons which could be purely selfish, or purely altruistic.
    The idea that white people are irredeemably a disaster for Maori is a poisonous myth making many people stupider.
    Again, Maori opinions were varied, even at the WORST of times in the mid-late 19th century. Take a look at the words of chiefs themselves written down (many were highly literate, due to missionary education, within missionary schools). Both before and at the time of the Treaty, read what they though of pakeha ways and pakeha living amonst them, or the Kohimarama conference of 1860, or the anthropological or philosophical works of Apirana Ngata or Te Rangihiroa/Peter Buck.
    You best not listen to 21st century bozo in youth parliament, or cowboy hat wearing clown. Anyone can learn to HATE, but I prefer to hear from the eloquent (and varied) words of their tupuna themselves.
    Maori never agreed on all things 200 years ago, any more than they can all agree today. And then you have hateful examples today who draw strength from blaming a white tribe for all their ills.
    The narrative these days is twisted and so fucking stupid. Goodie and baddies, Black and White.
    It is always great to have a scapegoat for everything though. Victimhood is an intoxicating drug.
    
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    July 22, 2022 11:24am
    - than
      
      An old WaveyDavey comment:
      
      It was overwhelmingly the choice of Maori society to do away with the language in schools
      
      But a much more significant omission is the fact that well-intentioned Pakeha and Māori alike during the late nineteenth century and early decades of the twentieth believed teaching Māori children English as a priority was the best way of helping them prosper. Banning any Māori being spoken in schools — and punishing those found speaking it — was an inevitable extension of such a policy.
      
      And it was, in fact, Maori leaders who pushed most energetically for English to be the only medium of instruction in Native Schools.
      
      In 1871, newly elected MP Karaitiana Takamoana pointed out in Parliament that missionaries had been teaching children “for many years, and the children are not educated. They have only taught them in the Māori language. The whole of the Māoris in this island request that the government should give instructions that the Māoris should be taught in English only.”
      
      A petition by Wi Te Hakiro and 336 others presented to the House of Representatives in 1876 recommended: ”There should not be a word of Māori allowed to be spoken in the school, and the master, his wife and children should be persons altogether ignorant of the Māori language.“
      
      There were more, including one by Renata Kawepo and 790 others. They asked that: “The government should use every endeavour to have schools established throughout the colony, so that the Maori children may learn the English language, for by this they will be on the same footing as the Europeans, and will become acquainted with the means by which the Europeans have become great.”
      
      Piri Ropata and 200 others also asked that Māori children be given the opportunity to be instructed only in English at school.
      
      The great Sir Apirana Ngata — who served as Minister of Native Affairs, was ranked third in Cabinet and whose image graces our $50 note — was positively evangelical in his campaign in the 1920s and 1930s to have English given priority in Māori primary schools. He argued that proficiency in the English language was “the key with which to open the door to the sciences, the mechanised world, and many other callings”.
      
      Furthermore, it was an approach endorsed by many Māori parents, who backed teachers disciplining their children for speaking te reo because they believed learning English was the path to success.
      
      https://democracyproject.nz/2021/09/24/graham-adams-going-where-the-media-wont/
      
      http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-BIM873TeHa-t1-g1-t2.html
      
      Those “Native schools” were also optional alternatives to regular state schools.
      
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      July 22, 2022 9:09pm
Handyman

Labour are certainly masters of spin.
The headline was they were building 3000 houses in Omokoroa but in reality they are upgrading a T intersection on the main road.
The roadworks would not have been necessary if Labour had not cancelled the expressway National promised.
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July 22, 2022 9:29am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That is why I call her “Ja spin da”
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:24am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Not masters of spin, you can see right through it, more like masters of bullshit
  
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  July 22, 2022 2:09pm
- Thought Criminal
  
  Clapping in the dark.
  
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  July 22, 2022 2:15pm
Maggie Pie

OMG! This would have to be the greatest TYPO ever….

https://twitter.com/Keggs719/status/1549755975263027201

LOL!! 😛
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July 22, 2022 9:35am
- Nickc2
  
  Is it a typo?????
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:39am
- Biscuit
  
  Greatest ever, Maggie?
  
  Even topping that ‘Thou shalt commit adultery’ entry in The Wicked Bible, a 1631 edition of the Bible published by the royal printers in London, and meant to be a reprint of the King James Bible?
  
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  July 22, 2022 9:56am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Reassuring that kiddies are safe, though.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Advertisement
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:29am
JimBobJoe

There is no Crime in Neeew Zeeeland,

There are no Gangs on our Streeeetsss

There is no crime in new Zealand, we can all stay
Perfectly Calm
Perfectly Calm
Perfectly Calm

(I am sure Don McGlashan who strikes as a real leftie type of guy, wouldn’t approve of me parodying the great Blam Blam Blam anthem of the early 80’s but…)

Dunedin style street violence… https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/man-dies-after-being-beaten-then-run-over-by-vehicle-in-dunedin/IEBDWHZCM5AQTEBBP25BPY7Z4A/
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July 22, 2022 9:59am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Don’t think they can play that song anymore as there’s plenty of depression in NZ. Although Ardern would argue Aotearoa is fine.
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:12am
ClanMcleod

Re the ridiculous “conspiracy theory” that there is some form of “new world order” aiming to supplant nations and democracy. How silly!

“One of the most revealing quotes on the agenda comes from Clinton Administration Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbot, who stated in Time magazine that:

In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority… National sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all.”

He adds in the same article a lesser-known quote:

…The free world formed multilateral financial institutions that depend on member states’ willingness to give up a degree of sovereignty. The International Monetary Fund can virtually dictate fiscal policies, even including how much tax a government should levy on its citizens. The General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade regulates how much duty a nation can charge on imports. These organizations can be seen as the protoministries of trade, finance and development for a united world.”

To understand how the agenda works, I offer a quote from globalist and Council on Foreign Relations member Richard Gardner in an article in Foreign Affairs Magazine in 1974 titled The Hard Road To World Order:

In short, the “house of world order” will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great “booming, buzzing confusion,” to use William James’ famous description of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault.”

The “NWO” has since changed names multiple times as the public grows increasingly wise to the conspiracy. It’s been called the Multilateral World Order, the 4th Industrial Revolution, the “Great Reset,” etc.

The names change but the meaning is always the same.

In the past two years in the face of extensive global crisis events the “new order” establishment globalists have been talking about has arrived, and with almost no fanfare or mention in the mainstream media. The beginnings of global government already exist, and it’s called the “Council For Inclusive Capitalism.”

Who the fuck are the “Council for Inclusive Capitalism”?
This is a fascinating read.

https://off-guardian.org/2022/07/20/what-is-the-council-for-inclusive-capitalism/
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July 22, 2022 10:02am
- Maggie Pie
  
  ‘Council-for-Inclusive-Capitalism’
  
  …..two wolves, including a lamb, voting on what to have for lunch.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:43am
- Thought Criminal
  
  Without clicking or reading is this council some socialist outfit who know how best to organise everything for everyone else?
  
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  July 22, 2022 2:19pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Extremely wealthy advocates for global governance. A weird form of socialism.
    
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    July 23, 2022 6:55am
Maggie Pie

Assume she’s being funded by Bill Gates, Pfizer, et al?

Kooky old Jane Goodall at the WEF suggesting all our problems could be solved if we were to reduce the earth’s population by 90%

https://twitter.com/ALilyBit/status/1549127159238852608

Maybe she can start with herself?
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July 22, 2022 10:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  She is quite mad. Who will provide the food for a start?
  These dumbarses can’t think outside their own bubble
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:33am
  - cmm
    
    Cut the food production and Europeans can still afford food.
    It is the poorer Africans who will starve first. As Africa is a machine that converts calories into babies, that means food production will turn into lots of starving brown babies.
    
    What Goodall is pining for is 1960s Biafra with lots of video of starving black kids.
    
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    July 22, 2022 11:06am
- Lucia Maria
  
  If the concept of population reduction by 90% was not already something most of those lovies at the WEF supported, then Jane would not feel comfortable even raising the concept. That’s some serious Soviet/Nazi level thinking there.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:36am
- virtualmark
  
  90% is a bit extreme.
  
  But the core argument that the world is over-populated is true. But the over-populated countries (India, China, Pakistan, Nigeria and much of Africa etc) aren’t listening.
  
  Given our population, climate, access to water and ability to grow food New Zealand is only going to be a more and more attractive place to live in coming years.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:44am
  - cmm
    
    Population is plummeting in China and is not at replacement levels. India is just a bit behind.
    
    Here’s a world map by fertility rate. Anything less than 2.1 is losing population (or trending that way). China and India are both on the way to losing population in the next 20 years.
    
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Total_Fertility_Rate_Map_by_Country.svg
    
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    July 22, 2022 11:27am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      China is worse than it looks too – they have been officially exaggerating birth rates for decades. In reality they have less than 1.3 billion, about 1/3rd as many 5 year olds as 50 year olds, birth rates that are still falling, a falling working age population and critically a plummeting number of fertile women (not helped by 10-20% excess men due to selective abortion).
      
      This is a US based chinese researcher who has been identifying lots of methods for figuring out reality of Chinese demographics using various real consumption data and other un-doctored sources. https://twitter.com/fuxianyi
      
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      July 22, 2022 11:45am
    - virtualmark
      
      Yep, China is in demographic trouble.
      
      Is one of the factors that heightens the risk they might invade Taiwan in the next few years. There’s a “now or never” element.
      
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      July 22, 2022 12:57pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Ukraine has demonstrated that non-nuclear wars of the future will be won by whoever can field the best/most semi-autonomous drones and so they will be won by the best electronics assembly and drone tech industry – which is Chinese at the moment.
        
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        July 22, 2022 2:06pm
      - Thought Criminal
        
        Probably waiting to see how Russia works out.
        
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        July 22, 2022 2:21pm
  - kowtow
    
    In coming years .
    
    The educated , middle classes of India , the Phillipines and China realise that a resident’s visa here is a ticket out of the third world and instant first world status .
    
    But with our rapidly expanding pop and non investment in all manner of infrastructure , be it physical or social means we are becoming the third world , in more ways than one.
    
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    July 22, 2022 11:28am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      And we are breeding (baby farmers) 3-5000 per year illiterate unemployables that will cost NZ 1-2 million a head during their lives. That’s something like +$150million being added to our welfare bill every year by these tragically abused children of govt ‘kindness’ – the reality is that easily accessed welfare fucks adults up and through indulgence of their shitty irresponsible life choices inevitably roots their ~~mealtickets~~ kids too.
      
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      July 22, 2022 3:32pm
- cmm
  
  Well population is already going down in Asia, Europe and USA. It is really only Africa that is booming. Even Europe is booming with Africans (but down overall).
  
  Any call for population reduction is a thus a call to kill Africans.
  
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  July 22, 2022 10:56am
  - skyblue
    
    I can live with that.
    
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    July 22, 2022 11:00am
- Frank the tank
  
  It’s all starting to come out in the open Mags.
  
  That is why they are doing all that is humanly possible to stop Trumpy getting up in 2024. He is not ‘one of them’.
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:06am
- Matt Long
  
  People who believe the world is overpopulated are always looking at someone else.
  
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  July 22, 2022 12:56pm
  - Thought Criminal
    
    People who know what’s best for everyone rarely follow their own advice.
    
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    July 22, 2022 2:22pm
mandk

@ Maggie Pie
I think these eco-nutters should be required to nominate which 9 of their nearest and dearest will be first into the gas chambers.
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July 22, 2022 10:31am
- [email protected]
  
  Don’t waste all that protein! Soylent Green.
  
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  July 22, 2022 5:02pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAYyuegyD8s

Help Please. Time Is Short. We Have A Small Window Of Opportunity.

Time is short; we have a window period of opportunity to get a Freedom Loving, Sovereignty Loving, Democracy Loving Mayor or Councillors into Christchurch Local Govt. Too late will be too late. Please, let’s go into action mode and help where we can. Aroha Nui Carl.
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July 22, 2022 10:40am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrhtwhR6cR0

Richard Prebble: Three Waters is a Government Coup.

Michael Laws speaks with Richard Prebble about his NZ Herald article: Three Waters is an attack on democracy. [13:11]
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July 22, 2022 10:40am
- Thought Criminal
  
  I wonder how that complies with the mandate to follow govt orders for their share of the 53 million.
  
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  July 22, 2022 2:24pm
  - curry4me
    
    The Platform didn’t take any money from the PIJF bribe fund.
    
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    July 22, 2022 7:47pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRit3Nb6z0Y

De-dollarization in full swing.

Joe accomplished an own goal! Worthless U.S. dollar. Well done Joe, and congratulations, Democrats. [4:40]
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July 22, 2022 10:40am
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

Its retard, whoops I mean retread Friday – Just when you think Michael Baker could not be more stupid, here he goes again …..https://rumble.com/v1cjmox-july-16-2022.html?mref=4pvd7&mrefc=2

Any chance a FB fact checker coudl take a look at Baker paid for commentary?
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July 22, 2022 10:41am
- mandk
  
  Matt King showed a video clip last night of Michael Baker saying masks don’t work.
  
  Baker was saying that the virus can cross mucous membranes, so that, even if you are earing a mask, you can get covid through your eyes and from there into your nose.
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:19am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    https://rumble.com/v1cjmox-july-16-2022.html
    
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    July 23, 2022 7:11am
MCōs

Steve Bannon is full of piss & vinegar until he has to testify under oath.
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July 22, 2022 10:56am
- Frank the tank
  
  Hunter Biden say hi Cosy.
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:07am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Have you ever read Kafka’s “The Trial”? I’m not a fan of Bannon, but he has a gun to his head and is being required to participate in what is effectively a soviet style show trial.
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:17am
  - MCōs
    
    There’s a contempt trial and there’s a hearing.
    Which one are you referring to?
    
    I could understand if he had to explain why he looks like a slob.
    
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    July 22, 2022 12:04pm
    - Bluegrass
      
      Of course you could…
      
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      July 22, 2022 10:55pm
oldfella

Who is this Maori fulla speaking so much sense? Maybe he should stand for National, eh? // (It’s behind a paywall, but I like this bit…)
… there is genuine frustration with Labour’s overreach on Treaty co-governance and clumsy attempts to expand the use of te reo. One such classic is the new name for the Auckland area health agency, Te Whatu Ora Te Toka Tumai Auckland.
How about Health Auckland?
Given this body has to serve all of us, its name is likely to cause cultural laryngitis before boosting healthy patient outcomes. Health users are diverse and families do not need tube-feeding te reo but to be treated and, hopefully, made well.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/shane-jones-inflation-runs-amok-while-mps-chase-their-tails/4W2R65AZ3I5TRUKXL7TI3UEKIY/
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July 22, 2022 11:13am
Benedict Yu

Why would someone spend 15 years building a boat – to live in – and moor it in Wellington at Eastborne, which every few years gets a major southerly storm, and not have it insured?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129349537/boat-owner-loses-life-dream-and-possessions-after-storm-sinks-his-home
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July 22, 2022 11:21am
- kowtow
  
  Under and non insurance , even for houses is a huge problem here.
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:25am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  It’s only been in Lowry Bay for about 4 weeks. Prior to that it was in Porirua harbour. Maybe he forgot to pay his mooring fees and had to move it.
  Hard not to have a bit of sympathy for the poor bugger but boat building on a shoestring is not for the faint hearted.
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:43am
- greybeard
  
  Why bother with insurance when you have Givealittle?
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:46am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Why would anyone want to live in Wellington? Shittest climate in NZ other than perhaps Invercargill. Doing it on a boat would be mark of a true masochist.
  
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  July 22, 2022 11:48am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Have you never been to PN?
    
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    July 22, 2022 9:51pm
Prince

Grant Robertson has been quiet lately, and I suspect he is mulling over his future.
His time as Finance Minister can be viewed as five years when the Government debt has more than doubled, up by $65B. His justification that people continue to lend us money is wearing thin, rather like a South Auckland family weighed down by ‘ready cash’ lenders believing they can spend their way out of the spiral.
And the results of all that borrowing are few and far between. So much wastage has been labelled as ‘Covid-related’ it is now a standing joke. There is no sign of the much vaunted ‘increased productivity’ which will return us to surplus, so he has fallen back on relying on inflation producing more tax to reduce the debt sometime in the future. Any suggestion of reining in the spend, or even examing it line by line is waved away as ‘slashing social services’. Labour are hoist by its own petard – they are committed to a ‘borrow and spend’ policy.
Amidst all this, Robertson will see his future is bleak. He needs to get out before the next election, regardless of the result. If defeated he will not be elected leader. If Labour win, he will bear the brunt of his part in the financial mess.

National/Act need to hammer home the lack of results from the spend up, and promise a full Commission of Enquiry into Government spending, including the role of one of the erstwhile guardians, the media, and Treasury. Revealing the advice Treasury has been giving would be very interesting, either way.
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July 22, 2022 11:27am
- Benedict Yu
  
  In response to OIA requests Treasury has stated that it conducted no cost benefit analysis on the COVID lockdowns and associated measures.
  
  https://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/oia-response/cost-benefit-analysis-covid-response-oia-20210436
  
  “The Government’s response to COVID-19 encompasses a wide range of policies and investments across a wide range of agencies. The Treasury does not hold a cost benefit analysis which captures the entire response programme. According I am refusing your request under section 18(e) of the OIA – the document alleged to contain the information requested does not exist or cannot be found”
  
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  July 22, 2022 12:04pm
  - Prince
    
    A change in Government could see some advice comes to light.
    
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    July 22, 2022 12:09pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  You may recall that on 20 April 2020, the PM extended the Level 4 lockdown by five days. Treasury did ask the Productivity Commission to undertake a cost-benefit analysis on that decision. They did a good job IMO. It is well written and worth a read.
  
  The conclusion is that the 5-days extension had costs exceeding benefits by $770 million.
  
  https://www.productivity.govt.nz/assets/Documents/cost-benefit-analysis-covid-alert-4/92193c37f4/A-cost-benefit-analysis-of-5-extra-days-at-COVID-19-at-alert-level-4.pdf
  
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  July 22, 2022 12:09pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I told everyone a couple of weeks ago, the Māori caucus has given Ardern and Robertson the ass card, they have been told to get out of the way, Ardern has been in parliament 2 days since March( makes a mockery of her being there maskless the other day when parliament is not sitting) And Robertson has not been seen since before he got COVID, and they were together in Aussie a few weeks ago, a very strange thing as they never send PM and dep PM away together
  
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  July 22, 2022 12:16pm
- Paulus
  
  Robertson cannot get out – nobody would employ a failed economist, but who understands creative accounting.
  And Jacinda need him to take the blame for her incompetence.
  Yes, he is done for as the new Labour take over.
  
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  July 22, 2022 2:00pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Economist?
    
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    July 22, 2022 2:12pm
- mogg
  
  For well over two years giving away vast sums of printed money (debt), was mistaken for economic brilliance. Robbo was being lauded as master of the universe, almost on a par with ‘lock-down and stamp it out Cindy’.
  
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  July 22, 2022 3:17pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Ivana and Donald Trump 1995.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZNbvnWEL48
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July 22, 2022 11:42am
Maggie Pie

Thought this was sooo worth sharing…

‘SAFE WAYS TO AVOID SEXUAL TENSION (Harassment)’
*Keep a safe distance from strangers.
* Speak up for yourself and be clear about your intentions.
* Don’t be afraid to call for help.
* Always be aware of your surroundings.
* Try not to go places alone.
* Always have a can of oven spray or cattle-prod handy.

– Steven Wood (Professional Matchmaker & Relationship Expert)
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July 22, 2022 11:53am
- Benedict Yu
  
  This must be an English language satire I don’t get. 🙁 What do you do with oven spray?
  
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  July 22, 2022 12:10pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Well it originally said…. ‘pepper spray’.
    But since that’s illegal in NZ, I suggested a legal alternative
    (Just need to work on the little hole in the knob with a needle until it gives you a constant stream when activated. You can get about a 3m distance)
    
    Your partner can thank me later 😀
    
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    July 22, 2022 12:39pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      She would not spray me with oven cleaner. 🙁
      
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      July 22, 2022 3:01pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        What about a strategically-timed jab on the bum with a cattle prod? 😛
        
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        July 22, 2022 3:26pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Not Guilty.

Justice Jagose contended in his final judgment on Friday that the two men had not received the payments directly, but rather as trustees of the foundation and previous fund-raising entities.

As a result, he didn’t see their actions as satisfying the charge of “retention of control of the money”.

He said there was “nothing inherently dishonest about [the fund-raising organisations] obtaining the money”

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/defendants-found-not-guilty-in-new-zealand-first-donations-trial
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July 22, 2022 1:17pm
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  If the trustees of a trust aren’t in control of the money or other trust property, then who is?
  
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  July 22, 2022 1:49pm
Maggie Pie

Honestly, is there other people like me who couldn’t give a flying f**k about the naming of the AllBlacks? SHEESH!!
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July 22, 2022 1:36pm
- JerJer
  
  Me. I don’t give a flying f*ck. But I am listening for the comedy value.
  
  NZR proving the defination of insanity on national media. Trying the same failures over and over an expecting a different outcome.
  
  Looking forward to more losses. Wondering what it will do the the national mood, since most people have nothing in their lives apart from Rugby.
  
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  July 22, 2022 2:11pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Crooked Rinos joining the Democrats to stop anyone challenging Election results.
They like “their gig” and these clowns often cheat, lie, and steal to keep it. They are saying it is to prevent what happened on Jan 6th again. Pig’s arse!
President Trump tried to warn the country that this was happening right under our noses. He was right.
https://redrightvideos.com/crooked-rinos-join-democrats-to-stop-anyone-from-challenging-election-results/
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July 22, 2022 2:07pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Joe gets welcomed in Massachusetts.
https://dailypoliticalnewswire.com/massachusetts-crowd-welcomes-joe-biden-with-his-favorite-chant/
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July 22, 2022 2:13pm
Maggie Pie

I vaguely remember from my History classes that the Maori-Land-Wars ended in 1872…..although I may be wrong by the look of this 🙁

https://twitter.com/DDog1970vintage/status/1550020830280957952
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July 22, 2022 3:19pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  At some point this is going to get violent.
  
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  July 22, 2022 5:19pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I think you’re right Alan. Things have become sooo ridiculous now.
    One of the girls from tennis was telling us their builders discovered a ‘cooking-pit’ just beside their fabulous new waterfront property in Russell…. full of old chicken bones and KFC packets.
    Their concern is, if word gets out, local Iwi may lay a claim.
    
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    July 22, 2022 6:31pm
mogg

Liz Truss has 62% support by Tory members. Big time jobs in the offing for Kemi and Boris. Because of her skin colour Kemi is untouchable, and she has debating skills which make ‘Jacind-the-great-communicator’ sound like a stumblebum.
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July 22, 2022 3:31pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Kemi has burger-flipping skills and can salt a scoop of chips….as well as acquiring an Engineering Masters degree, an LL.B. and years of Banking experience and 3 kids before she reached her mid 30s.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemi_Badenoch
  
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  July 22, 2022 4:27pm
  - Blog-aholic
    
    Waaay to over qualified to be an MP in NZ then.
    
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    July 22, 2022 4:28pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Jacinda IS a stumblebum
  
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  July 22, 2022 4:53pm
Surely Knott

From Amnesty International May 2019 (my comments in brackets):

“Iran: Abusive forced veiling laws police women’s lives

Imagine that you are a woman leading a relatively normal life. You take the metro or bus to work or university. You socialize with friends. You may be able to afford a smartphone and enjoy posting selfies on social media. You may sometimes be lucky enough to take walks on the beach and feel the sea air in your hair.

Now imagine that before you step foot outside your front door to do any of those things, you must stop and check that your hair is properly covered with a headscarf and that you have covered up your arms and legs.

This may seem extreme but failing to do so could carry serious consequences for you. You know that, as soon as you leave your home, your body and clothing will be assessed by strangers. You will face “morality checkpoints” where state agents will decide if you have failed to comply with the state’s strict dress code xx. If you “fail” their test, you may be arrested…xx

So, every day, before you leave your home, you must decide the level of risk you are willing to take. Do you want to exercise your freedom today and wear what you want, or will you play it safe to avoid arrest, assault and being denied entry to your work place or university?

This may sound like a fictional dystopia, but it is not. ”

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2019/05/iran-abusive-forced-veiling-laws-police-womens-lives/
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July 22, 2022 5:29pm
- gump
  
  This is the world that evangelical Republicans want to create in America.
  
  Sharia law and Christian theocratic law overlap. Which isn’t surprising when you consider they both developed from the same groups of desert tribesmen.
  
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