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NeverMindTheBollocks

Hey Nanaia! You tell us that Maori want control over water. Well, control the water in Nelson. Because you can’t have it both ways.
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August 22, 2022 8:04am
- Master Mariner
  
  They have already annonced most updates about a bloody Rahui on gathering seafood. Ffs.
  NCC Taking up most of the bloody page.
  
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  August 22, 2022 2:02pm
Warren

Government to round back on Supermarkets, launch an economic offensive in the wake of Gaurav Sharma scandal.
Labour hits the panic button with the help of Senior Editors like Luke Malpass on policy and stupidity by trying to rush through Supermarkets Reform to combat the bad press our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is getting over crooked rules and bullying of Gaurav Sharma and other Junior Labour MP’s.
This shows the arrogance of our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern thinking she can expel a MP that hi- lights her poor Judgement and bullying by herself and Senior MP’s
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/129641656/govt-to-round-back-on-supermarkets-launch-economic-offensive-in-wake-of-gaurav-sharma-scandal
This is just another example of a por Government that will rush laws through Parliament without thinking or looking at the consequences they will have on others just to save face and hope the public will stay loyal to the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.
Labour have form in bad law and you only have to look at what Geoffrey Palmer pushed through Parliament to realize they can’t be trusted.
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August 22, 2022 8:04am
- Thought Criminal
  
  A bunch of people who have never run a business telling big successful businesses how to do their jobs based on the teachings of Karl Marx (who also never had real jobs).
  
  What could possibly go wrong?
  
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  August 22, 2022 6:43pm
- ecco
  
  She and Clarke have had a go at destroying the banks’ business model.
  Just like Cunliffe breaking up Telecom to try and win votes.
  
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  August 22, 2022 7:55pm
dave_c_

So, I wonder which kindy our part time PM will be visiting, as she heads for Nelson today ?

Perhaps there will be an opportunity or two for a photo shoot in front of long suffering and devastated residents.
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August 22, 2022 8:05am
- Harry Knuts
  
  lots of hugs involved is my bet.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:27am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    As long as she remembers to wear a mask because otherwise she risks killing 80,000,000 people. //
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:08am
    - Ross Campbell
      
      Previously the figure was 80,000 people.
      Now it’s 80,000,000 people.
      She definitely will be busy..
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:28am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Oh dear, did you miss the sarc there Rossie? Keep up!
        
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        August 22, 2022 11:19am
- RoboRob
  
  Plenty of head nodding and faux sympathy mixed in with ‘Climate change’ comments. Sad electioneering, great for JA though.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:34am
  - Ruawai
    
    On RNZ sounded like she wanted to take control of civil defence telling the people what is happening. She loves a disaster to exert control over the people.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:57am
    - rouppe
      
      Another totalitarian leader in history did that too, didn’t work out for him. Putin allegedly is changing generals regularly, look how that’s going for him
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:29am
      - Ra Henare
        
        or Look at the USA. Not changing Generals and see how that has worked out, he says, thinking of Iraq and Afghanistan,
        
        Side note: Check how many senior staff The Ukrainian Comedian has fired.
        Putin is the epitome of stability in contrast.
        haha
        
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        August 22, 2022 1:23pm
      - cjn
        
        How is it going for him? Do tell.
        
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        August 22, 2022 3:55pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      And 2 bags of chocolates to show how kind she is.
      
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      August 22, 2022 3:10pm
  - Biscuit
    
    Prime Ministerial Schedule
    Today – August 22 2022
    Morning – Visit to flooding-affected Nelson citizenry
    Playtime – Local Kindy
    Lunch – Zoom Meeting with nearly all of the Caucus to discuss who will say what and when we toss that uppity guy from Hamilton out on his rear end tomorrow
    Afternoon – Tour of local Fish ‘N Chippery.
    Evening – Fly to Wellington but, natch, avoiding any interaction with the Bishop’s protest meeting
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:01am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      That playtime at local kindy – that’s a private thing isn’t it, rather than an official visit?
      
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      August 22, 2022 12:33pm
- mawm
  
  Dave_c_ – In light of the admissions coming from the CDC Neil Oliver has some harsh words for “our leaders” and the devastation they have inflicted on us. It’s time for them to apologise and go away. I couldn’t agree with him more.
  
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/aR0Ii05hw0oi/
  
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  August 22, 2022 12:42pm
- KKKKatee
  
  Yep. She’s dispensing hugs. Gets in far too close imo. Boobs & knees right in there.
  
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  August 22, 2022 3:08pm
Gravelroad

Does anyone think that now might be the time to peg back the $B demands of the cycling activists and maybe spend some of that money on state highways?
Not everyone lives in cities.
Not everyone wants to ride a bike to work.
The flooding in the top of the South Island has shut down two state highways. It will take weeks to open one of them and the other won’t be much better.
I realise this government is not interested in rural residents or businesses, but surely there must now be some appetite for addressing the financial neglect of provincial roads – large and small.
On both SH6 and SH63 there are still one-lane bridges – one with an accompanying river ford to cater for trucks.
Waka Kotahi is doing its best here to manage and repair the highways (and other roads) with diminishing financial resources.
Some of the $B’s being set aside for flash cycle bridges and lanes for a few could go a long way towards changing this situation for the many.
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August 22, 2022 8:05am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “… but surely there must now be some appetite for addressing the financial neglect of provincial roads – large and small.”
  
  If you mean appetite by the government, then the answer is No.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:13am
- gorse
  
  I would suspect Land Transport NZ are spending millions of Dollars throttling our highway speeds as well. New signage, painting roads, a mega team in offices, teams out looking, deciding what road to kill next. I want our roads back.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:17am
  - thirteenstars
    
    “I want our roads back.”
    
    Soon you won’t need those roads because the endgame is to get you out of your car. Fewer cars, fewer roads. You can cycle, walk, public transport, and with the new ultra-crowded cities it’ll be easier with everything much closer like noise, smells, crime.
    
    That nice stretch of cruising road in the countryside will soon be nothing more than a horrible relic of the nasty individualistic past.
    
    That’s what the kids are being taught so it must be true.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:30am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      It all stems back to the UN SDGs. Sustainable Development Goals. A crock of ideological garbage. Read them, complete word salad, like everything that comes out of Ardern’s mouth.
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:14am
      - thirteenstars
        
        But it’s way beyond that now and and has bugger all to do with any particular leader, even one as creepy as Ardern.
        
        It’s all been taught in schools for a couple of decades and was well underway long before then. What appears to be a sudden explosion of this ideology is in fact the result of a lot of work by politically-smart people, much smarter than those now wondering, how the hell did this happen?
        
        Well, it’s a tidal wave and the huge swell is only now apparent. Tidal waves don’t get held back. Too much momentum.
        
        Here’s a great little project: try to get rid of the Blue-Greens in National who are as devoted to Net Zero, the fake market of emissions trading, green subsidies and environmental indoctrination, as much as any member of the Green Party.
        
        Good luck.
        
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        August 22, 2022 10:26am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Must be getting close to time to start investing in horses & stables. We could breed the common nag for commuting to town for shopping, work etc. A racing stable for those who have to go to another town or city at a fast pace. Then the reliable old drysdales to horsepower our farms & agriculture. 😆
        
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        August 22, 2022 10:32am
      - Don Beckett
        
        All that prime horse dung would be great for organic gardeners as well.
        
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        August 22, 2022 10:33am
      - mawm
        
        Clan – the agenda is to impoverish us and reduce our numbers. They are well on their way with the excessive spending during covid and now the mismanagement of the resultant inflation. “You will have nothing and be happy!” – not even an electric car because there will be nowhere to park it with developers not being required to plan for adequate off-street parking and with cycleways taking away on-street parking, and nowhere to charge it overnight even if we actually have any electricity with the shortages being planned as coal and diesel get phased out and unreliable and costly “renewables” take over.
        
        Remember that Ardern does not work for us no matter what she says which is garbage anyway.
        
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        August 22, 2022 12:59pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Buggy whips making a come back
        
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        August 22, 2022 6:48pm
    - Ruawai
      
      Probably with 30km per hour speed limits on every road.
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:17am
  - Master Mariner
    
    I think it advisable to ask NZTA how much ashfelt is actually in the country first.
    
    On another note. How much diesel is in NZ ?
    
    Buggered if i can find out.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:35am
    - mawm
      
      “How much diesel is in NZ ?” – make sure you keep your tanks topped up.
      
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      August 22, 2022 1:00pm
  - oldfella
    
    gorse, as long as our roads have signage in English and Te Reo, everything will be ka pai.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:41am
- surfing
  
  The state highway network around our area is in the worst condition that I can recall.
  
  I just drove from Tauranga to Taupo and it was an exercise in dodging potholes. To be fair, it has also been an extremely wet winter.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:02am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It might be time to totally forget cyclists altogether. Make them learn to pay their own way like We do. Cyclists want a bridge? Fine, make a group and do some fundraising – or build the fucker yourself.
  For too long the Govt and Councils have given in to their freeloading demands.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:12am
  - [email protected]
    
    Or the bridge should be built with local council funds. That way the locals can decide whether it is worthwhile building. Rural citizens should not have to support city dwellers.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:26am
    - Bullion
      
      Generally its urban areas supporting rural areas, I don’t think rural areas have the population base to cover the costs of roads and possibly other services. (I know plenty don’t to cover costs of meeting water standards)
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:32am
      - Gravelroad
        
        @bullion
        We pay rates here (quite considerable) to the local council. For that we get a shared road. Sometimes it is improved and maintained. Sometimes not.
        It could be argued (so I was told by a previous mayor) that we can use the road to go to town and, once there, we can access “assets” such as the library, theatre and sports facilities.
        Some people who have changed their land use to plant grapes for wine contribute many thousands of $dollars in rates for a road. One family we know pays $40,000 pa.
        Which, incidentally, is why so much land is now in the hands of overseas investment companies.
        Same with trees – although they get their money from carbon credits not wine.
        
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        August 22, 2022 11:15am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    A couple of cake stalls should cover the cyclists’ contribution
    
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    August 22, 2022 1:46pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Once you understand that Labour and the Greens don’t want cars on the roads, the rest of their policies make perfect sense. It is incompetence, it’s willful destruction and neglect, as all their policies have been since Ardern got to be in charge. She’s a one woman wrecking ball masquerading as “kind and caring.” Nothing could be further from the truth.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:12am
- Loddenthinks
  
  I’m a keen cyclist – I own a road bike, a hybrid commuter and a carbon fibre hardtail MTB. I think it’s well past time to peg back the demands of the cycling lobby and to put that money into maintaining, improving and extending our roading network.
  
  I’ve also advocated for some time to register all bicycles that ride on the road, regardless of the age of the rider, or who’s riding it at the time. We tolerate speed camera fines being paid by the registered owner unless they can prove (or swear an affidavit) that it wasn’t them and to name the driver, so why wouldn’t the same apply to bikes?
  
  The reality is that too many of my fellow cyclists ignore the rules of the road with impunity, and infuriate both car drivers and responsible cyclists.
  
  It’s true that some drivers are menaces and let the red mist descend, and I loathe a particular blog that refers to all cyclists as road maggots which is lazy and potentially dangerous. It’s a very uneven contest, car vs bike and the cyclist is only ever going to be the loser. Take a breath, count to 5 and give us some room. We’re people too.
  
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  August 22, 2022 12:41pm
  - mawm
    
    There is a small vocal and influential cycling lobby but I’m not sure that they are the ones pushing for most of the expensive expansion of cycling infrastructure. I think it is part of the plan to get rid of cars and they are drawn into it when asked for their advice.
    
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    August 22, 2022 1:05pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      There’s some truth to that, but many of them are also rabid lefties hoping to kill two birds with one stone.
      
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      August 22, 2022 2:05pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Good points. Cyclists who are not licenced drivers should have to sit some sort of driving test. If they’re in charge of a vehicle on the public road then they need to prove that they know the rules.
    
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    August 22, 2022 1:48pm
Mike

Happy International Day Commemorating the Victims of Acts of Violence Basel on Religion or Belief!
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August 22, 2022 8:06am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Mike – that’s nice of you, thinking about the protesters in Wellington who got abused and battered for their belief that bullying and forcing people to inject experimental drugs into their bodies wasn’t something they wanted to be part of.
  
  There was me thinking you were just a vapid troll but this is a “kind and caring” side (in an Ardern sort of way) that I haven’t seen before. Did you have a Damascene moment?
  (Though I’m not sure what a city in Switzerland was meant to be referencing.)
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:19am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Do you mean “Damascene” is a city in Switzerland?
    If so you are wrong. It refers to Damascus, the capital of Syria – and the “Damascene moment” refers to the conversion of St. Paul to Christianity back about the year 38 AD when he was on his way to Damascus to persecute Christians living there.
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:38am
    - Steve Todd
      
      You may want to read Mike’s comment again, Don.
      
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      August 22, 2022 11:01am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Thanks Steve – was looking at ClanM’s comment.
        silly me.
        
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        August 22, 2022 2:22pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Don – no I was referring to Mike having “Basel” in his comment. I know it was a typo. And I do know what a Damascene moment is thank you. It was written as intended, sorry if it didn’t make sense to you.
      
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      August 22, 2022 11:22am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Easy to miss …
        
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        August 22, 2022 1:49pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        All good. I saw Steve’s comment first. 🙂
        
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        August 22, 2022 2:23pm
Yabster

Taxpayers union interview- good listen

https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/casey-costello-from-hobson-s-pledge-on-one-law-for-all
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August 22, 2022 8:07am
- Yabster
  
  sorry Hobson Pledge.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:12am
Maggy Wassilieff

Winston Peter’s long speech on co-governance,
delivered yesterday.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2208/S00183/co-governance-is-not-democracy.htm
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August 22, 2022 8:08am
- Scott
  
  It is well worth reading Winston’s speech. Love him or hate him, he is one of the very few politicians speaking against co-governance. He is totally correct in saying that the Treaty of Waitangi did not establish a partnership between Maori and the Crown. In 1840 the Maori people signed the treaty and became subjects of the Crown. They did not become partners of the Crown. There is not two standards of citizenship. We are all, black white or brown, subjects of the Crown.
  
  Can someone please tell Jacinda?? And all the other woke elite’s that parrot this nonsense.
  We need democracy restored. One person one vote. And we need to think carefully about how we vote next year. Because a vote for labour, a vote for Greens, a vote for the Maori party, is a vote for co-governance and treaty partnership. And please don’t think we will get equality at the end of this. Radicals don’t believe in equality and never stop at equality. The aim is to run the show. I’m sorry but I believe the aim is Maori ascendancy. Three waters is a good example. The new health system is a good example. The 15% of the population that identify as Maori get veto rights over the other 85% as regards to water and as regards to health.
  
  That is not right. That is establishing a Maori elite with more rights than anybody else. Unfortunately our current trial of socialism has shown that socialism always works the same way. We are all equal. But some people are more equal than others.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:18am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    That’s pretty much what Luxon has been saying all year. National stands for equal citizenship for every New Zealander, and opposes any co-governance of government services:
    
    A country that emphasizes what unites us, instead of what divides us. A country that says absolutely, explicitly, that there is one standard of democracy, equal voting rights and no co-governance of public services.
    
    That’s the New Zealand I want to live in.
    
    https://www.national.org.nz/speech_christopher_luxon_speech_to_the_2022_national_party_annual_conference
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:34am
    - oldfella
      
      Tony: unfortunately, when Luxon say that’s the country he want to live in, that’s aspirational. And that’s Cindy’s thing. Aspire, but never quite arrive.
      How about Luxon says, ‘that’s the country National promises to deliver. No ifs, no buts. One standard of democracy, equal voting rights and no co-governance of public services’.
      I’m concerned that if Luxon doesn’t toughen up his language, he’ll find Winston has syphoned off a bunch of votes that should be going to National. And may cost National/Act the next election.
      
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      August 22, 2022 9:50am
      - jon
        
        Spot on Old Fella. Luxon needs to milk this nonsense for all its worth and do a Rob Muldoon and stampede the country from North Cape to the Bluff with the message of total rejection of co governance!
        
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        August 22, 2022 11:54am
      - Tricati
        
        Well said oldfella. You have articulated what many of us are feeling.
        It appears Luxon is getting sucked into the ‘woke’ environment of not wanting to upset anybody.
        We know he will get crap from the MSM, but he needs to spell out strongly that there is going to one democracy under National, and that means all are equal – no ifs or buts.
        
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        August 22, 2022 12:06pm
    - thirteenstars
      
      Words are cheap.
      
      Let’s replay this after the next election when likely Maori will hold the balance of power and Te Reo Luxon finds he just can’t stand the thought of not being PM.
      
      Then all the Nat stalwarts will be chanting in chorus, he had to compromise! He had to give them something! The new Ministry of Equity ain’t such a bad idea! At least we’re in government and we can get things done! No. no, not *those* things, but other things.
      
      Vote ACT so they can hold National’s baubles of office in a tight grip.
      
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      August 22, 2022 9:59am
      - yobi
        
        I don’t think the maori party will hold the balance of power, it will more likely be NZ first if Act and National don’t get enough numbers. Next year you will see the campaigning start on a vote for labour, greens or maori party is a vote for co governance.
        Let the games begin!
        
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        August 22, 2022 10:29am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Bigger Peters, he created this mess, he can die by the mess, he is also getting shorty about the media corruption as well, but loved it when the media were treating the Nats like leppers, get rid of this lizard breath
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:25am
- Frank the tank
  
  Can’t see how that is going to live with 2023 Labour. Setting himself up to be Te Reo’s handbrake.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:30am
  - RoboRob
    
    Lol people said that 5yrs ago too. Winston was going to ‘pull National back to the right’, ‘Winston would never go with Labour’.
    
    Cameron Slator and his mates worked hard for NZF money.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:08am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Unless he tules out working with the dictator, then stuff him
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:48am
      - septic skeptic
        
        Why, oh why, would you (a) believe anything Peters said in the year coming up to an election, or (b) not say “stuff him” regardless of whether he rules out working with Cindy again?
        
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        August 22, 2022 12:08pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That is even a better reason to vote ACT. I am seriously thinking of giving my candidate Vote to ACT as well as the Party Vote.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:14am
    - RoboRob
      
      Big Jerry Brownles is not standing in the Ilam electorate next election. The Ilam electorate could be another Epsom. I for one would party vote National and candidate vote ‘other’.
      
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      August 22, 2022 9:40am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        There will not be a second seat set aside for ACT ever, it is possible that Matt King could be left Northland, but that is it
        
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        August 22, 2022 10:50am
      - septic skeptic
        
        Not sure you guys have a handle on MMP. A second electorate seat “set aside” or otherwise won by ACT is irrelevant. It would just mean we bring in one less list MP. And by the way Epsom is also irrelevant in 2023 unless ACT drop below the 5% threshold.
        The only way to rort the system next year would be to run a MASSIVE campaign to get the vast majority of CR voters to vote National list and ACT electorate (or vice versa) so that ACT won all the blue electorate and these were an overhang as they got 0% party vote.
        I suspect doing this would not go down well.
        
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        August 22, 2022 12:18pm
      - RoboRob
        
        @skeptic
        
        I was atually thinking an Independant or another small non Act party that would work with National & Act.
        
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        August 22, 2022 2:21pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Right there is where you split yo vote, what possible point is your electorate vote going to Act, they will never win an electorate seat outside Epsom, your comment is music to Cindy’s ears
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:49am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        With a bit of luck she will head for the hills before the Election. Labour Elite are unpredictable.
        
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        August 22, 2022 12:56pm
- Luke Piewalker
  
  Zero interest in anything Winston says.
  
  You 100% created this mess Winston.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:39am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    So you’ll bite your nose off to spite your face? That’ll show Winston, in your mind at least, but the rest of the country be buggered!
    
    Yes he’s the Great Charlatan but he did restrict some of the worst of Labour’s madness last term, and he might just be a key player in returning democracy to New Zealand.
    
    I’ll still be party voting ACT as I have the last 2 elections, after a lifetime of voting for National and a brief time as a member, but NZ First could yet have a part to play. If it were a choice of forming a government with the Maori Party lunatics or Winston, I know which I’d prefer.
    
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    August 22, 2022 2:04pm
- Yabster
  
  Good speech- he is ruling out working with any party that is pushing co- governance- will get him some votes- find it hard to trust what he says though.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:49am
  - pdm
    
    Yabby – he is going to be up `that creek’ without a paddle then if Luxon says he will not work with Winston First.
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:02am
    - Yabster
      
      he could always sit on the cross benches- not Winnies style though- making it clear I am not a fan – content of the speech was good though- taking it with a grain of salt – Winnie can’t really fall back on the immagration theme this campaign so he has found something that will reasonate.
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:13am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      That’s hypothetical, zLuxon has not even mentioned he would rule any party out sort from Rotten Labour
      
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      August 22, 2022 11:16am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    What like he said he will have a referendum on Māori seats? Don’t be fooled by this arsehole, he has shafted us before, read what Luxon said at the Māori hoo polloi the other day, he said Nats rule out having co governance
    
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    August 22, 2022 11:14am
    - leoj
      
      Do you have te reo’ Luxon’s autographed picture yet?
      
      I hope he signed his name in te reo.
      
      Luxon is a sucker. So are those who have been sucked in by his wokeism.
      
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      August 22, 2022 4:21pm
  - Ehlana
    
    Is this like when he said he wouldn’t go into coalition with (I think it was) National some time back – and then did exactly that?
    
    Or is this a different of “ruling out”?
    
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    August 22, 2022 1:48pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Unless he rules out handing Cindy the dictator another term then stuff him
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:34pm
- Flossie
  
  It’s hard to disagree with any of what he said!
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:54am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He is working you, don’t forget what he is
    
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    August 22, 2022 11:16am
    - Flossie
      
      I didn’t say I was convinced he was sincere!
      
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      August 22, 2022 12:15pm
- surfing
  
  Winston always says the right things when an election is closing in.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:05am
- RoboRob
  
  Dont believe Winston. He may or may not believe what he says. He only needs 5%, once in power he wont do anything.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:06am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, and in 2017 they did not break 5% in the polls till the start of election year, I can see the very same fools falling for this crap he is spouting now
    
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    August 22, 2022 11:18am
Maggie Pie

My partner was wondering if Dr Sharma is the wrong sort of brown to have his grievances heard?
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August 22, 2022 8:08am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Well he doesn’t fit into the Maori caucus so he isn’t protected there.
  the fact he’s openly disagreed with Cindy makes him a marked man now. How dear he…! (sarc)
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:20am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They will see him as yella
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:31am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes. Indian is Asian. I wish him all the best. If only others would make a stand.
    Break the elite Establishment.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:17am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Drain the swamp
      
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      August 22, 2022 11:19am
      - leoj
        
        The Nats could set an example of ridding themselves of wokesters within, starting with the leader.
        
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        August 22, 2022 4:23pm
- mandk
  
  I was also wondering if Dr Sharma is from a lower caste than the PM’s chief of staff, Raj Nahna.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:36am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I don’t think so going by their surnames.
    
    Sharma is associated with the Brahmins – the priestly caste of Hindus
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I know nothing of the Caste system, but it would be interesting to know
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:21am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharma#:~:text=Sharma%20is%20a%20Brahmin%20Hindu,Some%20Assamese%20Brahmins%20use%20Sarmah.
      
      At the top were the Brahmins(priests), then the Kshatriyas(warriors), then the vaishya(the merchant class which only in India had a place of honor in Asia), next were the sudras(farmers), and finally the pariah(untouchables), or those who did the dirty defiling work.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmin#:~:text=Brahmin%20(%2F%CB%88br%C9%91%CB%90,teachers%20(guru%20or%20acharya).
      
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      August 22, 2022 9:38am
      - rangitoto
        
        Interesting. In Japan it was something like
        
        Nobility, samurai, peasants, artisans, merchants, eta.
        
        eta being roughly equivalent to pariah. “Filthy merchants” just a small step above.
        
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        August 22, 2022 9:49am
      - Jack5
        
        The bottom-social layer in India, the Untouchables, are now called Dalits.
        
        Many, perhaps most, of India’s 27 million Christians are Dalits, though they are under-represented in clergy.
        
        The proportion of Christians in the population seems highest in the tribes of Nagaland, most of whom seem to resemble Tibeto-Burman people.
        
        Here’s an upper-class Indian’s story of his family’s reaction when he married a Dalit:
        
        https://www.arre.co.in/social-commentary/what-my-marriage-to-a-dalit-woman-taught-me-about-my-upper-caste-privilege/
        
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        August 22, 2022 11:00am
    - Biscuit
      
      Steve, the Caste System in Chez Biscuit runs like:
      
      1 She Who Must Be Obeyed
      
      2 The cat
      
      3 Anyone not mentioned under 1 or 2…
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:21am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yup, that’s what I say about watching play school TV 1 Breakfast. The speaker of the house insists.
        Keep the Queen Bee happy and the whole hive is happy. I am of a much lower Caste.
        
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        August 22, 2022 10:25am
- alloytoo
  
  Dr Sharma left the plantation without permission, he is, in the eyes of the labour party, “Uppity” and needs to be symbolically flogged.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:38am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That is a good term (leaving the plantation)
    Candace Owens is the first to use it politically, in her book ‘Blackout’
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:23am
    - alloytoo
      
      It serves to remind Democrats as their Party’s proud history that they’re gone to so much trouble to hide.
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:46am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Dems even hide the fact that it was them who owned slaves, not the Republicans.
        
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        August 22, 2022 12:58pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Steve Otto @12:58
        The leader of the Klu Klux Klan was also a Democrat and allegedly a close friend of Joe Biden.
        https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-byrd-eulogy-biden-kkk-grand-idUSKBN26S2EE
        
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        August 22, 2022 1:14pm
Paulus

And possibly the wrong sort of Indian to Ardern’s powerful Chief of Staff, Raj Nahna.
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August 22, 2022 8:11am
Maggy Wassilieff

Looks like “Stuff” is dumping some of its opinion writers..

How sad///

https://www.stuff.co.nz/science/300665253/ask-yourself-is-it-your-truth-or-the-whole-truth

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/129614184/that-nagging-need-to-know-how-the-story-ends
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August 22, 2022 8:12am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Good job. Opinions in MSM is not news. reporting facts as they happen is news. Opinions should be for women’s weekly mags and tabloids only.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:18am
- Gravelroad
  
  @MW-
  Followed hopefully with a review of the people employed to contribute “cartoons”.
  The effort on $tuff today is just plain insulting – on several levels.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:19am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    I actually thought it was funny in a totally ironic way.
    Obviously, they mean the anti-mandate people are anti-Democracy but it’s far more accurate to point out that any candidate running under the flag of Labour or the Greens will do what the Party tells them, not their constituents. They are most definitely defecating all over democracy.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:15am
  - Spoff
    
    Quality cartoons you will not see on Stuffed:
    https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/friday-funnies-d4e
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:29am
- Souvlaki
  
  Yes….but interestingly, when free of shackles of Stockholm syndrome ,some of their former colleagues begin to see the light !
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/20/jacinda-arderns-iron-grip-on-new-zealands-labour-party-is-slipping-and-that-means-trouble
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:56am
- Prince
  
  Good to see Bowron is going. Could this be some indication that Stuff is finally realising their ‘opinions’ lack diversity ? Or a new broom, replacing editor Crewdson, is sweeping up the trash ?
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:10am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Bowron can only be read for a terrible example of brainless commentary.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:41am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Na,
    
    I imagine it’s easier to just employ one person who will recirculate crap being formulated in some “thinktank” closely allied to our Government.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:44am
    - Jack5
      
      It’s surprising to see posters on a Right-leaning blog praising Bowron and her trivia. Still, she says in today’s Stuff that the column is her last.
      
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      August 22, 2022 11:07am
      - Jack5
        
        Whoops! I misread Prince’s 9.10 post: “Good to see Bowron is going.”
        
        I hastily took “going” as meaning appearing, not as meaning ending.
        
        Sorry, Prince.
        
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        August 22, 2022 12:55pm
  - Spoff
    
    Positioning for a change of government?
    
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    August 22, 2022 11:13am
- Inandout
  
  MW, this may be the ‘Brian Stelter’ effect that CNN has put into place as it struggles to extract itself from the woke hole it has dug. Our MSM is different of course in that it is a directly funded by the taxpayer and need not worry too much about financial losses….yet.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:35am
- graham
  
  At the end of Jane Bowron’s column, there was little pop-up in that box where Stuff runs their begging-for-a-handout advertisements:
  
  New Zealand would be a boring place if we all agreed on everything, right? We’re better off when a diverse range of perspectives are given equal footing.
  
  I had to check it wasn’t April Fools Day …
  
  I mean, it’s a wonderful idea, Stuff – it’s just a shame that the evidence over-whelmingly shows that you obviously don’t believe what you’ve just written. Seriously, the above statement from Stuff is about as believable as Megan Wood’s “most open and transparent Government ever” or George W. Bush’s claim of WMD in Iraq.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:11am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Excellent. Don’t let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:29am
- Tom Hunter
  
  Haha. Schadenfreude is best served cold:
  
  Gannett recorded a dismal second quarter financially, the company reported Thursday – important revenues sources down, costs up and a loss of $54 million on revenues of $749 million. Strong cost reduction moves are on the way.
  
  “Strong cost reduction” = firing a lot of useless bastards – not that it will save them.
  
  Same with Mr Potato Head Stelter getting fired at CNN:
  
  “We’re barely five minutes into the final Reliable Sources and the arrogance and hatred for conservatives that “the truth is not neutral” with Stelter and Carl Bernstein is flowing. They’ve already shown why it’s being canceled.”
  
  “Second segment for Brian Stelter’s final show — the risk to the lives of journalists and how dangerous it is to be one in America because of the far-right. Ah, yes. Being a journalist in America is JUST like reporting in China, Myanmar, North Korea, and Russia!”
  
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  August 22, 2022 11:00am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  to quote a great man, who you will never see again in this role on the Telly:
  
  “Oh Dear, how Sad, Never Mind!”
  
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  August 22, 2022 4:53pm
jp_1983

Sigh… Govt just brought Kiwibank today a cool $2.1bn – what appropriation did this come out of?
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August 22, 2022 8:13am
- Ghost
  
  Govt always owned it, just a rearranging of which govt agency own it now.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:28am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Came from your children’s Tax.
  Robertson is eyeing the Kiwisaver Account??
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:35am
  - Ghost
    
    Kiwi bank have sold their kiwi saver account to Fisher Funds for $310 million
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:50am
    - marcw
      
      KiwiBank sold KiwiSaver years ago (KiwiWealth i think). FisherFunds have bought this private fund.
      
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      August 22, 2022 9:58am
      - Ghost
        
        Kiwi wealth was brought by kiwi bank in 2012 from Gareth Morgan, put into Kiwi Group Holdings, which is owned by the same three govt agencies that sold kiwi bank, they sold kiwi wealth a few days ago
        
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        August 22, 2022 10:05am
      - marcw
        
        Thanks, I mistakenly thought Kiwiwealth was at arms length from KB financially.
        
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        August 22, 2022 10:09am
      - pdm
        
        mw – that should improve returns forthose KiwiSavers.
        
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        August 22, 2022 10:11am
      - Master Mariner
        
        Look who owns Fisher funds majority?
        Follow the money.
        
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        August 22, 2022 11:35am
      - mawm
        
        MM – ?TSB
        
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        August 22, 2022 1:19pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        @Mawn.
        TSB sold out to Toi.
        Fisher funds bought Kiwi Wealth super for there Default kiwi saver.
        Fisher wasnt a Default provider.
        US Equity firm own 30 percent and Toi 70.
        
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        August 22, 2022 2:20pm
  - Raphael
    
    It was a while ago, pre 2020, but I am fairly sure I recall the Greens making noises that the Government should be able to use Kiwisaver funds for whatever they want.
    
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    August 22, 2022 11:53am
- RoboRob
  
  I think this is an outcome of the new govt debt system. When crown entity debt didn’t count as govt debt, they sold KB off to government agencies for a cash injection and to reduce debt (on paper only). Now that this debt counts as the governments anyway they buy them back so they have direct control.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:45am
- Paulus
  
  Your pocket is to pay for it.
  Sadly for KiwiBank it will be a disaster.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:29am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Who sold it to the super and ACC
  
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  August 22, 2022 12:22pm
G152

Stopped watching all TV weather programs as they are in a language I do not understand or even wish to.
Fortunately there are weather forecasts on radio not yet smitten with the double speak !
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August 22, 2022 8:15am
- Benedict Yu
  
  There is also the very helpful Metservice website. It is still (mostly) in English language.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:24am
  - Sideoiler
    
    BY have as look for a site called YRNO very accurate.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:31am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      yes am familiar.
      
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      August 22, 2022 11:28am
- Harry Knuts
  
  Metvuw – all english language.
  Metservice is SOE hence you will get te reo on there.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:34am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Just go to any place that shows you an isobar map, and make your own forecast. Boaties know this.
  Even Metservice Marine forecasting is sometimes very wrong. I can get dangerous out in the Hauraki Gulf.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:38am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Steve. Use Windy mate.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:44am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I do, as well
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:28am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      I use Metvuw and Windy. We live coastal and enjoy getting the boat out. Like Steve said, the gulf can change quickly. Those 2 sites serve me very well.
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:42am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Need to be alert to tide changing and wind change.
        I learnt the hard way. Nice and calm, Takapuna to the Noises. Lovely trip, say 40 minutes, caught a few, and then it happened. Tide started out and NE wind came up. Over 2 hours to get back. 15 foot with 50 HP.
        Bit different now. Old Haines V17, 140 Suzuki 4
        stroke. No sweat from Gulf Harbour to the Mokihinaus and back.
        Just be careful out there guys, and girls.
        
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        August 22, 2022 1:11pm
- Master Mariner
  
  They really need to understand Nz lives and lively hood rely on clear conscise weather forcasts .
  Think seafarers, farmers and anyone venturing outdoors.
  Absolute disgrace.
  Confusing the hell out of people with word soup in the top of south from civil defense etc.
  Bordering on negligence.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:44am
- Phronesis
  
  They seem to be really into Brian Tamaki though. They always tell us what the weather is at the Tamaki’s. Or at least as far as I can tell from down here in the South.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:18am
- alex Masterley
  
  I use a combination of:
  Met Service,
  Predictwind,
  Windy,
  Weather watch, and then I look out the window.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:32am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Look out window. Exactly.
    Well said.
    I have a barograph corrected for altitude synchronised with airport.
    Old habbits rarely go out of fashion.
    Always looking at the clouds.
    Never wrong.
    
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    August 22, 2022 11:39am
    - lemuzz
      
      Lick your pointing finger and hold it out the window. Works every time
      
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      August 22, 2022 12:32pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yep, look out the window.
      If you can see Rangitoto, it is going to rain.
      If you can’t see Rangitoto, it is raining.
      
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      August 22, 2022 1:14pm
      - Ehlana
        
        Or check the cat. If the cat is wet, it’s raining outside. The wetter the cat, the more rain is falling.
        
        If the cat won’t go outside, it’s too cold out there.
        
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        August 22, 2022 2:14pm
      - leoj
        
        At Snohomish Golf Course in Washington State, they have a good sized rock hanging just outside the pro-shop.
        
        Sign reads:
        If rock is dry – it’s fine.
        If rock is wet – it’s raining.
        If rock is moving – it’s windy.
        If rock is white – it’s snowing.
        
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        August 22, 2022 4:31pm
Suze Wainwright

The only takeout I get from award winning, Alison Mau-endorsed journalist, Kirstie Johnston’s outrage at who funds The Platform, is that it is making an impact in sectors that the Govt and competing journalists find uncomfortable.

This can also be measured by the number of cheap hitshot tweets directed at Sean Plunket every time he comments, by Labour’s Twitterati.
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August 22, 2022 8:17am
- oldfella
  
  This article about The Platform is surprising fair and balanced. Despite being on The Spinoff.
  https://thespinoff.co.nz/business/20-08-2022/two-hours-with-the-secretive-rich-lister-bankrolling-sean-plunkets-the-platform
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:58am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    Oldfella, thank you for bringing that to our attention.
    Media outfits that bludge off the mug taxpayer are becoming somewhat concerned about “The Platform.” I think that what concerns them is that it is NOT a radio station so it it is not covered by the Broadcasting Standards Authority.
    Go for it! Sean. The 7 – 9 morning show is not contaminated by 28 minutes of advertising each hour.
    
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    August 22, 2022 3:27pm
- Philview
  
  Whereas Government funded media is impartial, I don’t think so.
  
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  August 22, 2022 11:16am
Littletramp

Re Dr Sharma: “When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” Edward Snowden.
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August 22, 2022 8:20am
Benedict Yu

This story is getting a run internationally, including in the Wall Street Journal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/19/world/australia/new-zealand-name-change.html

What would happen if Luxon simply pledged “We are not changing New Zealand’s name.”?
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August 22, 2022 8:23am
- Nickc2
  
  Maori will probably revolt if they can find the time.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:29am
- Frank the tank
  
  Te Reo won’t. Him, Beltway and the Tobacco salesperson is too worried about upsetting < 30 white collar females.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:31am
- Surely Knott
  
  Winston Peters has delivered a banger of a state of the nation speech criticising just that. That they never campaigned on any of this. That on the election trail they never campaigned on changing the name or co-governance.
  
  We are consistently told Labour can’t deliver. But they deliver all right. Just not on what they campaigned on.
  
  https://www.facebook.com/winstonpeters/videos/504738484693822/
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:36am
  - RoboRob
    
    Just over 1yr out to the election. If Winston really believed this stuff he would have talking about it years ago roght?
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:10am
- Gravelroad
  
  Rhodesia had its name changed to Zimbabwe.
  What societal and/or economic benefits have resulted from that?
  It is alleged that a few of the people in high places have had their lives enhanced mightily.
  But for most, conditions in that country seem to have gone backwards not forwards.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:40am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Backwards is the Socialist way. Keeping people dependent means ‘control’
    And yes, all of the other Socialist Countries are doing it wrong.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:42am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Actually a few similar simularities to Ukraine.
    Ex bread basket and communists on the border.
    China there now in both N.Rhodesia and Rhodesia.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:49am
- gorse
  
  Announce binding referendum on a name change at least.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:42am
  - Paulus
    
    Will not be binding as that cannot be accepted as a conclusion.
    Need to get Postal Voting for it which can be suborned.
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:33am
- PHC
  
  I am confused about the translation.
  Ao tea roa translates as “long pale world”
  Land of the long white cloud translates as
  “whenua o te kapua ma roa”
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:50am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Please don’t encourage them.
    Tarmucky Muckaround is bad enough.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:44am
- lemuzz
  
  There was more outrage about John Key wanting to change our flag than about changing the name of our country. Where are all those flag protesters now?
  
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  August 22, 2022 12:41pm
Yvette

Report paints grim picture for NZ children from low-income families
… “When it comes to [Sudden Infant Death Syndrome], Māori are nine times, and Pasifika are six times more likely, to die from [Sudden Infant Death Syndrome] than non-Māori and non-Pasifika infants.
“Sadly, the report reveals a bleak picture of upholding children’s rights in Aotearoa with poverty directly affecting the health outcomes of our youngest citizens, who are often forgotten about in terms of rights.
“The report finds that the leading causes of ill health and mortality of New Zealand’s under-fives are largely preventable and are attributable to poverty.”
https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/08/22/report-paints-grim-picture-for-nz-children-from-low-income-families/

Cycleways …
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August 22, 2022 8:24am
- Ehlana
  
  It’s not clear from the article whether the SUDI stats quoted are for all income households, or just low income ones. If they are comparing like households, then the problem would not appear to be poverty. So what are Maori and Pacific parents doing differently? Is the same disparity seen in higher income households?
  
  And I think “a bleak picture of upholding children’s rights” should read “a bleak picture of lack of parental responsibility”. Parents choose to have children – no-one else is forcing them too and I understand abortion is pretty much on demand these days, so that is not the reason.
  
  I wonder how much support there would be for improved sex education, access to contraception and access to vasectomies?
  
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  August 22, 2022 2:33pm
Maggie Pie

“Rajesh Nahna Gaurav Sharma”

If you sing this in an Indian-sounding voice it sounds just like a Hari Krishna chant 😀 😀 😀
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August 22, 2022 8:24am
- Harry Knuts
  
  OMG maggie – you’re outta control 😉
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:52am
- Biscuit
  
  Been AGES since I heard that chant, Maggie, and even longer since I saw one of the group in question.
  
  Time was – yeah, yeah, I’m getting old – when you couldn’t go for a walk along Lambton Quay without running into same and having your ears assaulted by their inane patter.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:16am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    There’s a HK school out near where my partner plays a bit of golf. Reckons they always start that silly bloody chant just as he’s lining up his putt on the ninth 😀
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:48am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Oh boy, how long before the teetotalers complain about this? Men having fun – it must be stopped. Also they have no masks on!
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/auckland-whiskey-group-helping-combat-loneliness-and-isolation-among-older-men/ar-AA10Tk49?
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August 22, 2022 8:25am
- Frank the tank
  
  12 weeks and counting without wearing a face nappy Steve. We are winning……slowly.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:44am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I don’t wear one, don’t know how long – say over 2 months.
    I even walk into the Pharmacy without one. They don’t seem to mind. Get some bad looks from the sheep though.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:47am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Yeah did my first pharmacy last week. Only frontiers left – doctors and airports!
      
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      August 22, 2022 11:23am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        At the Medical Center I will wear a mask, but once I am in the room with the Doc I take it off, so does he.
        We both agree, we are all over this psychotic bullshit.
        Said it from the start – let it run rampant so we get natural antibodies. I only got vaccinated to comply, to have a nosebag or a beer.
        
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        August 22, 2022 1:21pm
  - Opie
    
    Starting to notice a few more people in shops without one on. Slowly slowly, they start to wake up.
    
    Still waiting for someone to ask me to put one on, I suspect the mask zealots look for easy targets
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:52am
  - leoj
    
    It’s empowering, isn’t it.
    
    The first go is the worst. I don’t give it a second thought now.
    
    Easy to spot Labour voters too. Morons.
    
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    August 22, 2022 4:37pm
Maggie's partner

If you really want to show your displeasure with this government, what better way than to nominate Dr Gaurav Sharma as New Zealander of the Year! https://nzawards.org.nz/
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August 22, 2022 8:26am
- RoboRob
  
  I know that everyone is into the whole ‘enemy of my enemy is my friend’ thing, but just no.
  
  The dude is a back lister LABOUR MP. He supports their BS policies and likely has sat around doing very little for his pay. Just becuase he is having a spat with his boss doesn’t make him a saint.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:13am
  - leoj
    
    Love your perspective.
    
    Yep, the guy went with Labour so he is obviously a loser.
    
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    August 22, 2022 4:38pm
- H. Upmann
  
  Done.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:23am
- Ross Campbell
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Yes he is very popular on KB at the moment because he is saying things that people want to hear.
  Prior to that if he had been nominated for New Zealander of the year he would have been run down on here as not a real New Zealander or just a fill in for the diversity quota.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:24am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    It would have been who is he?
    
    But now we know he has pissed off the right people it’s time to piss them off some more.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:48am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    not a real New Zealander.
    
    I’ve been reading KB for years now..and I can’t recall any commenter on here writing that a NZ citizen was not a real NZer.
    
    I have heard some of our politicians labelling fellow citizens as manuhiri. (i.e. guests in NZ – not Tangata whenua)
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:50am
    - oldfella
      
      Maggy: manuhiri? I thought that was a power station?
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:01am
  - Yabster
    
    Ross/Mike well done on the generalisation of what all KBer’s think- keep up the trolling, it obviously gives you a sense of worth and unlike the labour party, KBers have a concern with regard to mental health…
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:52am
  - RoboRob
    
    Thank you Ross. I am stunned by the love fest for Sharma. Sure I enjoy the damage to Labour, that doesn’t make him a good guy.
    
    Same as Ukraine. I don’t like what Putin has done and support the Ukraine against the Russians but the Ukraine is still an extremely corrupt country. Russia apparently ranks #1 for corruption but Ukraine is second.
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:53am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That award will go to a dark skinned transistor with all 53 genders, wearing a tin foil hat.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:48am
- Warren
  
  The public is fickle and stupid in many instances concerning politics so it wouldn’t surprise me to see many do this ,but not for me.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:34am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Great idea. Done.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:49am
iMP

“The Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care has been told competence in te reo and culture will eventually be mandatory for teachers.” You won’t be able to get a teaching proficiency certificate without it.

Will it be mandatory for the 95% of Maori who haven’t adopted Te reo?

So abuse of Maori in state care is because not enough teachers know Te Reo.
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August 22, 2022 8:27am
- Benedict Yu
  
  If so, it would accelerate the decline of New Zealand education achievement.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:36am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Clever idea though. It will mean some people won’t be prepared to undergo this cultural training and will shift to other careers. Most of those that choose to teach will self-select as woke. The kids might not be literate or numerate when they leave school, but they will have had plenty of exposure to the politically correct ideas.
    
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    August 22, 2022 8:56am
    - Jack5
      
      Would folk without a “teaching proficiency certificate” also be shut out from non-State schools?
      
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      August 22, 2022 11:27am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Who are these people who profess to know how we will be controlled? Sack them.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:50am
Frank the tank

So did Neale Jones threaten to Sue FakeNewsHub concerning his role in Sharmagate?

And we all know where there is a Jones there is always a Smith (Clint)……
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August 22, 2022 8:34am
- Ruawai
  
  We don’t know what was withheld other than it was about Neale Jones. Maybe Nicky Hager will pick this story up and write a book “Dirty Politics part 2”.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:28am
  - Frank the tank
    
    LOL little Nicky wouldn’t have a go at his team.
    
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    August 22, 2022 11:24am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Two scared to open a can of worms, Jones was using weasel words trying to say he spoke about something else. Clint has gone to ground
  
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  August 22, 2022 12:27pm
Nickc2

Thought for today.
Back on January 9th, a group of HELLS ANGELS, South Carolina bikers were riding east on 378 when they saw a girl about to jump off the Pee Dee River Bridge. So they stopped.
George, their leader, a big burly man of 53, gets off his Harley, walks through a group of gawkers, past the State Trooper who was trying to talk her down off the railing, and says,
“Hey Baby . . . whatcha doin’ up there on that railin’?”
She says tearfully, “I’m going to commit suicide!!”
While he didn’t want to appear “sensitive,” George also didn’t want to miss this “be-a-legend” opportunity either so he asked . . . “Well, before you jump, Honey-Babe . . . why don’t you give ol’ George here your best last kiss?”
So, with no hesitation at all, she leaned back over the railing and did just that . . . and it was a long, deep, lingering kiss followed immediately by another even better one.
After they breathlessly finished, George gets a big thumbs-up approval from his biker-buddies, the onlookers, and even the State Trooper, and then says, “Wow! That was the best kiss I have ever had! That’s a real talent you’re wasting there, Sugar Shorts. You could be famous if you rode with me. Why are you committing suicide?”
“My parents don’t like me dressing up like a girl.”
It’s still unclear whether she jumped or was pushed.
Anon.
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August 22, 2022 8:39am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  That’s terrible. Would make even Maggie blush.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:51am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Well done you
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:52am
BeaB

A relief to hear Jacinda Ardern refuting all Sharma’s claims. We can now relax while they boot him out.
No room for whistleblowers in Labour.
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August 22, 2022 8:41am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  She has now said all is good over OIA, well if he has recoded the training then she is done
  
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  August 22, 2022 12:30pm
- lemuzz
  
  Yep. Talking to Ryan Bridges she said “We shouldn’t be discussing Sharma. Our attention should be on the flooding in Nelson”
  Nothing to see here
  
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  August 22, 2022 12:58pm
Maggie Pie

Anyone else see a trend here?

UK’s most popular Baby-Boy’s name….
2022: Muhammad
2021: Muhammad
2020: Muhammad
2019: Muhammad
2018: Muhammad
2017: Muhammad

So goes the Empire, so goes the world.
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August 22, 2022 8:41am
- Frank the tank
  
  LOL it was going that way in 2000 when I was over there. The empire went a LONG, LONG time ago.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:43am
- Inandout
  
  MP, err no.
  https://www.ukbabynames.com/
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:45am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Since when has ‘Mothercare’ become your only source of truth?
    
    LOL!!
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:49am
- Ross Campbell
  
  Not sure where you are getting that information from but I checked official stats for 2021 just as a sample and the most popular name was Oliver not Muhammad.
  Not really important right as it ruins the narrative of a Muslim takeover.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:03am
- Harro104
  
  I was genuinely interested so I checked the UK census. Maggie, seems like your post is made up. Maggie, please don’t make stuff up.
  
  “Oliver and Olivia remained the most popular names for boys and girls in England and Wales in 2020 for the fifth consecutive year.”
  https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/babynamesenglandandwales/2020
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:06am
  - Ross Campbell
    
    Things work in funny ways here.
    The more untruths you put in your post should equal more downticks but mostly it is the opposite.
    Go figure…
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:43am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      RC you would certainly know when it comes to untruths. I did a quick search and it looks like Maggie is correct, and just to make you even more excited, this is from the BBC so it must be true!!
      
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/62094313
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:53am
      - Ross Campbell
        
        See my reply to Biscuit below.
        Seems you have comprehension issues as well.
        
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        August 22, 2022 11:02am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Difference is hon, is that I tend to use up to date and reliable sources…..
    
    https://gbnews.uk/news/muhammed-revealed-as-the-most-popular-uk-baby-boy-name-2022/331678
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:45am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      They must have an old computer
      
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      August 22, 2022 9:59am
      - oldfella
        
        Steve: must still be running DOS.
        
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        August 22, 2022 10:06am
    - Biscuit
      
      Score Update:
      
      Maggie 1
      Maggie’s Naysayers 0
      
      So far as I am aware, naysayers, Jacinda hasn’t yet banned access to the Internet.
      
      Did none of you think ‘Oooh, I will be bold and go investigate for myself!’
      
      Tip:
      
      When you do do your bold Internet seaching, throw 2022 into your Search Header so that, um, you get up-to-date figures…
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:11am
      - Ross Campbell
        
        Nice deflection but no.
        What happened to 2017,2018,2019,2020 and 2021 which Maggie also claimed were top Muhammad years?
        Oh that’s right they didn’t show Muhammad as the top boys name so I will just ignore those years as they don’t fit the picture.
        
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        August 22, 2022 10:41am
      - Ghost
        
        https://www.babycentre.co.uk/a25024456/babycentre-unveils-top-100-uk-baby-names-of-2017
        
        https://www.babycentre.co.uk/top-baby-boy-names-2018
        
        https://www.babycentre.co.uk/top-baby-boy-names-2019
        
        https://www.babycentre.co.uk/most-popular-baby-names-of-2020
        
        https://www.babycentre.co.uk/top-baby-names
        
        https://www.wikihow.com/Use-Google
        
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        August 22, 2022 2:05pm
      - Biscuit
        
        Talking of deflections, Ross, allow Maggie to use the Prime Ministerial deflection:
        The claims for the years you cite were ‘aspirational’…
        
        [But, mea culpa, I didn’t go back further than this year, Ross. So I will amend the score to 1-1, heh!]
        
        I see, too, the Brits are getting boringly-predictable re names for their sprogs – no just Mohammad (or its various spellings) but also, good grief, Archie; that one presumably because a certain semi-retired Royal sired a kid with that moniker…
        
        Why are there never INTERESTINGLY-named youngsters. Why not Rumpelstiltskin, e.g.?
        
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        August 22, 2022 3:08pm
  - plc
    
    There is only one Mohammad…and he is Salah
    
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    August 22, 2022 1:29pm
    - Biscuit
      
      J’approve, plc!
      
      A hat-trick for him from 8am tomorrow would be timely…
      
      He can even get a fourth in the second half if he’s not too tired..
      
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      August 22, 2022 3:14pm
- Ghost
  
  Muhammad Sleeps around and gets woman pregnant then names the child after him?
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:42am
- Master Mariner
  
  I think if you changed it to the most popular food would give you a better indication.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:56am
- Jack5
  
  How do British Muslim families get on for naming when they have more than one son?
  
  At least it helps anti-Muslim employers sort through job applications.
  
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  August 22, 2022 11:31am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Interesting enough it can be spelled about 5 different ways.
    Having worked with all Muslim crews . The crew list can be confusing.
    
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    August 22, 2022 2:34pm
Frank the tank

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/129642187/government-to-take-full-ownership-of-kiwibank

What brainfart from the Bullshit factory is poor man’s Gordon Brown going to enact now…..
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August 22, 2022 8:42am
- ClanMcleod
  
  FtT – keep your eyes and ears out for CBDC. Central Bank Digital Currency. I imagine Ardern pees her pants at the thought of having the ability to control people via what and where they spend their money. She must have rang her buddy Trudeau in breathless excitement when he shut down the accounts of anyone supporting the trucker convoy.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:56am
Chris Nisbet

According to some story on Newshub, we now know that the RBNZ made some mistakes, but at the time we apparently had no idea what would happen if we chucked billions of dollars into a shut down country.
Good lord.
But if that was actually true that we had no idea what would happen (it isn’t), shouldn’t we have taken a minute or two to ponder what might happen, and/or been a bit more cautious before throwing billions of dollars about?
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August 22, 2022 8:57am
- Master Mariner
  
  Yes indeed. The Great cash Splash has been an absolute disatster.
  The cash in circulation went from 15B to 60B..
  
  However the real issue is how it was circulated and not directed. Ie into infratstructure etc. Roads, ports, hospitals etc.
  Then denying inflation as transitory.
  Following the script for a race to the bottom.
  On another note. Due to NZ geographical location Nz inflation is here for a lot longer than other OECD countries.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:25am
  - Nickc2
    
    Inflation – Labour’s gift to NZ that keeps on giving!
    
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    August 22, 2022 9:51am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Some people just could not live without inflation. They are loving it.
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:01am
Harry Knuts

Watching Cindy on AM show today. She got all shitty at Ryan for talking about the Sharma Drama and pretty much told him off for even raising it as a topic as the Nelson floods were her priority.
I would have thought being the PM – you would have many priorities including the Sharma Drama and it’s your job to multi-task drama’s/events.
Ryan seems to be the only journo at the moment holding the PM to task and doesn’t give into her word soup and tanties.
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August 22, 2022 8:57am
- Yabster
  
  Ryan obviously didn’t get the memo- divert all attention from Sharma – lets revisit the supermarket issue and send Cindy on a walkabout looking a the floods in Nelson- the MSM will lap up that photo op….
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:21am
- patreon_36178434
  
  And she was in full spasm, arms going everywhere
  What a hasbin
  
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  August 22, 2022 11:28am
Maggy Wassilieff

Wow..
Our Government launches a campaign to get 75% of our school children regularly attending school by 2026.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2208/S00185/campaign-launched-to-support-school-attendance-every-school-day-is-a-big-day.htm

Hard to believe that elsewhere in the World there are places where young girls will risk their lives to attend school.
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/girls-education-risks-poverty-crisis/
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August 22, 2022 8:58am
- Its only I
  
  You would think the news would be about the need for the campaign, in fact if it was any other Party in power this would have been a token gesture by a party under extreme pressure from the media and polls.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:13am
- RoboRob
  
  Not even a real policy. Labour know that they will be attacked on this next year so they are front footing it. Now they can say, we have a comprehensive policy already in action to improve school attendance. If they really cared this would have happened years ago.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:17am
- mandk
  
  This is nothing less than shameful.
  
  If the campaign succeeds, we could still have one quarter of school age kids not attending 9 days a fortnight.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:24am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  75%? That’s a really inspirational target.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:26am
  - oldfella
    
    70: I think you mean ‘aspirational’. Labour only aspires, never quite gets there.
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:09am
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      Good spotting ol… – ” making you feel full of hope or encouraged” was not the sentiment I intended to express ……
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:56am
    - Trev
      
      Never even gets close! e.g. Kiwi Build etc.
      
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      August 22, 2022 11:31am
- Benedict Yu
  
  According to this data (link below), New Zealand absences were 27 percent of students in 2018, above the OECD average of 21 percent. According to the linked article that number is now 40 percent!
  
  In contrast, the number in Taiwan is 4 percent and in South Korea it is 2 percent.
  
  https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/d72b946c-en/index.html?itemId=/content/component/d72b946c-en
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:43am
- Paulus
  
  They would surelyb go only if they could speak and write in Maori.
  There,
  QED
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:37am
- tknorriss
  
  They have set a target of zero road deaths, so why not a target for 100% attendance?
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:50am
Benedict Yu

“”We will continue to deport people when appropriate. But we will have some common sense apply here.

“Where you have a circumstance where someone has lived their entire life, effectively, in Australia with no connection whatsoever to New Zealand, common sense should apply and we will act friends and we will work through those issues in a common sense way.” [Anthony Albanese. Press Conference with Jacinda Ardern – July 2022]

“On Friday, Ms Ardern said she happy with Mr Albanese’s “common sense” approach that will take into account the amount of time a New Zealand citizen has spent in Australia.”

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/anthony-albanese-says-australia-will-take-a-common-sense-approach-to-deporting-new-zealand-criminals-under-section-501/news-story/cf6474f82f1a429d36742dd916f65f1e

I was prompted to revisit the issue of the ‘deportees’ by this news:

“A dangerous Comancheros bikie will be deported to New Zealand after losing his appeal in Australia’s high court.

Former sergeant-at-arms of the Canberra chapter of the Comancheros Sosefo Tu’uta Katoa, 28, will be expelled from Australia after former Home Affairs minister David Coleman cancelled his visa on character grounds in 2019.

Tu’uta Katoa had been remanded and exiled on Christmas Island over charges including bomb possession and blackmail at the time.

He had also previously been convicted of multiple other offences including a serious assault charge.
In 2019, a court heard that police suspected him of being involved in as many as 28 gang shootings and 33 cases of arson.”

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/former-australian-comancheros-bikie-boss-to-be-deported-to-new-zealand-after-appeal-fails/V4HAFYC4L4XRARAW5M7MPVWLTM/

The media report does not say how long this guy has lived in Australia, but it must have been for a considerable period if he has been involved in “28 gang shootings and 33 cases of arson”. He is exactly the type of criminal about which Jacinda has been so agitated when they are deported to New Zealand.

Yet Jacinda is silent on this maniac about to land on our shores. Indeed she has been silent since she claimed ‘peace in out time’ a few weeks ago.

Here is my prediction. The new Australian Government will continue the policy of the last Australian Government. There will be the odd case where a New Zealand criminal has lived their “entire life” in Australia (Albanese chose those words deliberately IMO!) who will be allowed to stay – e.g. they have lived in Australia for 40 years since infancy, and their crimes are at the lower end of the seriousness scale – e.g. a repeat burglar rather than a murderer. This will be the odd bone thrown to Jacinda. It might amount to one or two cases per year.

My second prediction is that Jacinda will never campaign on this issue again. She will never again criticise the Australian Government for deporting “their’ crimninals. That is because she wants voters to remember the ‘win’ she had over that nice Mr Albanese in July 2022. It was a win because she said it was a win. That is all that matters.

The criminals will keep flowing here as they have for the last few years and Jacinda will be silent. If challenged she will simply ‘refude’ the question, referring the questioner back to her conversation with that nice Mr Albanese in July 2022.
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August 22, 2022 9:29am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The only thing Jaspinda cares about is ‘does he vote Labour?’
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:06am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Here is another one.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/129525507/kiwi-dad-faces-deportation-after-years-of-criminal-offending
  
  Lived in Australia 30 years since childhood. It is clear that despite Jacinda’s celebration in July, there has been no change to the policy.
  
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  August 22, 2022 12:46pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Albanese’s just one man in that Govt. He’s as weak as …… piss. For one, he’s a Union Glove Puppet and for another, the Greens and Teals have him over a barrel. He can’t even wipe his own arse without their approval.
    I seriously doubt his Govt will go the distance. Then again, I have been wrong before, but I can’t remember when.
    
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    August 22, 2022 1:07pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Baja California 2020, daytime video by a party of people who saw and videod a hovering/slow moving cluster of tic-tac ufo’s that accelerate away vertically at impossible speeds, videos from two phones.
https://twitter.com/OMApproach/status/1561164985648160768

This is close to the test range where the US Navy tic-tac ufo encounters and videos came from.

If not fake (and looks pretty convincing) then they are shitting all over what we know of physics and engineering and it is therefore pretty definite proof of Aliens. Suggests the Zoo hypothesis is the answer to the Fermi Paradox.

Original video:
https://youtu.be/dhmp0QT3Dos?t=238
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August 22, 2022 9:45am
curry4me

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=2870443339916164

Q+A Covers Some Minor Party Candidates.

TVNZ’s Q + A this morning covered a few of the minor political parties that have been critical of the performance of the current government and the parliamentary opposition.
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August 22, 2022 9:46am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-3WrzmaBOA

Corrupt Media, Corrupt Elections, Corrupt Government?

Govt Paid STUFF Media (STUFFED Media) – is doubling down on demeaning, slandering, defaming, those decent people exercising their once free right to stand in a democracy in their country. How can people not see that when the media who is paid for by the Govt behaves this way to sway public opinion and vote that the media, elections and Govt that endorses this is not corrupt and totalitarian? [7:35]
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August 22, 2022 9:46am
Tony Stuart

Grant Robertson must have found a spare $2.1 billion down the back of the couch, because he has just splashed out and bought Kiwibank back from its private owners:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/government-to-buy-kiwibank-for-21-billion/DKZGAUXZPDJU3QFMAJLDKUIH4Q/

But wait; there’s more; ha’s also prepared to put further capital into Kiwibank if required!

Remember when Michael Cullen bought Kiwirail back from Toll just before the 2008 election, committing the incoming National government to ongoing investment. The deal was so bad for the taxpayer and so good for Toll, that one Toll executive was reported to have said “You only get one Helen Clark in your business lifetime”. It seems that Robertson is going to follow Cullen’s lead, and leave the cupboard bare next year.
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August 22, 2022 9:46am
- Ghost
  
  Just rearranging the deck chairs from a govt owned bank and making it a govt owned bank, wonder if he borrowed the money from kiwi bank, lol
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:48am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Anyone willing to place odds on Tipa Mahuta being the new CEO of the newly acquired Kiwibank?
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:58am
  - Biscuit
    
    Remember Dick Emery, Maggy?
    
    ‘Oooh you are AWFUL … but I like you!’
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:03am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Or one of the Ormsby whanau…
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:06am
    - Yabster
      
      will be renamed to Iwibank…
      
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      August 22, 2022 10:23am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Word on the Viaduct is…. Pene.
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:39am
  - Harry Knuts
    
    More like the appointment for new CEO will be made purely based on diversity and a quota – not actual education and experience and right fit for the job.
    time to cancel your Kiwibank accounts and move your money elsewhere.
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:39am
- barnacle bill
  
  He will have to deal with the situation as Labour will be returned to power.
  So no problems there.
  
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  August 22, 2022 9:59am
  - barnacle bill
    
    The alternatives aren’t that great are they Steve.
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:39am
- Master Mariner
  
  Another potential treaty settlement in disguise?
  
  Fully agree with kiwirail comments.
  Nothing has changed as ferries are buggered still and nearly another potential Wahine incident recently.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:07am
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    Tell us more about another Wahine
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:57am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Ferry recently lost propulsion exiting Wgtn . Had too turn around.
      Looks like CPP issues.
      Read on nz herald but couldnt read full statement as bad internet.
      Look forward to MNZ incident report🙄 of they complete it.
      
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      August 22, 2022 2:44pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  This will be the sixth time Labour have done this.
  If it happens next year I will have seen it 4 times.
  Why don’t people research before voting?
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:14am
- Paulus
  
  New Zealand’s cupboard is disasterously bare before next year anyway, like the stupid Cullen did.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:40am
- septic skeptic
  
  I said a while back that Robertson and the rest were in “poisoning the well” mode. Once he can see with certainty that 2023 is truly lost I expect they will spend, borrow and leverage like there is no tomorrow – to make life as difficult as possible for the next government.
  
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  August 22, 2022 2:41pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Borrowed, but he was done in Dunedin yo open the Labour Party council hopefuls in the weekend, flew down, stated in the expensive Southern Cross , was sighted drinking in the bar with Alf, and I bet the tax payer was paying
  
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  August 22, 2022 2:48pm
- IndividualResponsibility
  
  Tony – that was Toll CEO Paul Little – not someone to be toyed with.
  
  Cullen & Clark attended that meeting.
  
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  August 22, 2022 4:13pm
Benedict Yu

This is just a classic ploy from a state funded propaganda arm:

“But anti-vaccine misinformation does hurt people. Climate denial hurts people, by prolonging action on the biggest issue facing humanity. We are all entitled to our opinions, but we are not entitled to create our own truth – and push it on other people.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/science/300665253/ask-yourself-is-it-your-truth-or-the-whole-truth

I ground my views in science and data analysis. I am no conspiracy theorist. Let’s just pick apart what this guy is saying.

The worst purveyor of ‘misinformation’ on the vaccines is Jacinda. The day she said that she would use the vaccine ‘to stamp out COVID like measles’ was the day I switched off permanently. She clearly understood nothing about the efficacy of the vaccine and what protection it could provide (very little as it turned out).

On climate change, the Government’s emissions reduction policies are an incoherent mess and its targets unachievable without wrecking the country. Again, Jacinda is the chief culprit in misinformation.
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August 22, 2022 9:53am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  She may be the chief culprit but who is to blame?//
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:17am
  - Paulus
    
    Those stupid enough to admit are to blame – they voted overwhelming for her at the last election.
    Can’t find any anywhere.
    
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    August 22, 2022 3:29pm
- graham
  
  How, exactly, is this so-called “anti-vaccine misinformation” being pushed on people?
  
  I don’t recall anybody forcing me to watch a documentary about how harmful the vaccine is. Nobody has come to my house and delivered a sermon on the dangers of vaccines. And nobody has mandated that I must not get the vaccine.
  
  Peter Griffin’s argument seems to go back to the fact that some people are daring to exercise their democratic right and stand for local body elections, and he disagrees with their opinions. I suppose the implication is that these people, if elected will … what? Ram through bylaws stating that all vaccination programs in their council are now on hold? Give me a break. If he believes that, I’m afraid I have to call Mr Griffin out as a – CONSPIRACY THEORIST.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:25am
  - Ross Campbell
    
    “How exactly is this vaccine misinformation being pushed on people”
    If you follow VFF, Hatchard Report or watch Counterspin Media its consumption is purely voluntary.
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:51am
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      Correct. Thank you for corroborating my point. 🙂
      
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      August 22, 2022 1:37pm
- Prince
  
  Socialism also hurts people, as demonstrated many times in many places, but I don’t see Stuff, or any other media, mounting a crusade against it, or even suggesting it may be slightly flawed.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:49am
- ClanMcleod
  
  BY – indeed, Ardern is demonstrably a fake and a fraud and a liar.
  But have a read of the nonsensical stuff the Germans are coming up with to deal with the imminent energy crisis this coming Autumn and Winter.
  
  Workspaces where hard physical labour is performed are not to be heated above 12 C, under the new rules. Those involving moderate labour while standing will have their temperatures capped at 16 C, and moderate labour while sitting at 17 C. Places where light labour is performed standing, will be permitted temperatures as high as 18 C, while white-collar office spaces where everybody sits and types will be permitted nothing warmer than 19 C. The heating of hallways and other common spaces will be outlawed, as will certain kinds of restroom water heaters.
  
  It’s a Monty Python script!
  
  The author, the always excellent Eugyppius does tie it into the covid narrative in a very plausible manner.
  
  One of my core themes here has been the deepening demobilisation of western states, as power is diffused downwards from the political apex into the bureaucratic institutions, the press and major corporate enterprises. The great advantage of this power-sharing is a near-total uniformity of political views that it has inspired across the socio-cultural elite, but it comes at the cost of initiative, coordination and strategy.
  
  The whole article is excellent. Use getpocket to read if it is behind the paywall. Not sure, but I’m a subscriber. Best $100 a year I’ve spent in a while.
  
  https://www.eugyppius.com/p/crisis-government-excess-deaths-in?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
  
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  August 22, 2022 11:18am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Im picking 95% doing hard labour are not of German extraction.
    Leopards dont change their spots.
    
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    August 22, 2022 2:48pm
surfing

Go listen to Leslie Hoskin on Newstalk ZB, around 7:40am this morning. She is on the teachers council.

NZ education is toast. Until women (and men) like this are gone, students are screwed! She is an absolute nutter, and has clearly lost the plot on education. Many of the things she says are incomprehensible.

She denies that education is in decline, blaming ‘the environment’ instead. Her solution is to take a maori centric and holistic approach… maths doesn’t matter.

Why do we pay people like this to destroy our education system? God help us!
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August 22, 2022 9:59am
- alex Masterley
  
  If youhave a look at her back-ground from Link’d In you will see absolutley no reference to teaching in a class room.
  Instead there is a steady progression through the ranks of the civil service.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:08am
  - mandk
    
    That’s correct.
    
    Lesley Hoskin is a career bureaucrat, and has never taught.
    
    The Teaching Council also has three Deputy CEOs. One of them claims to have been a teacher at some stage.
    
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    August 22, 2022 10:24am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Same with Michael Baker, a career trougher in the civil service who never practiced anything actually medical in his life.
      
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      August 22, 2022 11:02am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        But he is a Doctor, just like Jaspinda is a Doctor
        
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        August 22, 2022 1:36pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  “She denies that education is in decline, blaming ‘the environment’ instead. ”
  
  The Ministry of Education is FULL of folk like her. We are talking 3,000+ public servants all talking like that. I’ll say it again – it is an organisation that needs to be burned to the ground. It is the worst performing government department IMO.
  
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  August 22, 2022 10:18am
  - Nickc2
    
    Yea, I heard her as well. Pitiful. She reminded me of one of those old boiler chooks who’s always sitting on the bottom perch in the henhouse with her head cocked towards the resident Rooster and clucking away “pick me” “pick me”.
    She had all the words, but they were wrong.
    
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    August 22, 2022 1:35pm
- Waipuk
  
  Education is not about students competence in math, reading/writing, and science.
  
  It is about being fully rounded and reaching their potential which obviously does not including being employable.
  
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  August 22, 2022 12:07pm
Maggie Pie

My partner’s mum reckons, that requesting the Chief-Ombudsman Peter Boshier to investigate Labor’s attempts to foil OIA requests….would he akin to asking Race-Relations-Commissioner Meng Foon, to examine the detrimental impact Pokie Machines have on underprivileged Maori communities living on the East Coast of New Zealand.

https://stuff.co.nz/national/125432465/race-relations-commissioner-meng-foon-rejects-allegations-of-pokie-grant-kickback-in-historical-investigation
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August 22, 2022 10:37am
- Ross Campbell
  
  Yes well given Meng Foon used to run a pokie bar himself I can see this could be a conflict of interest but what exactly is your problem with Peter Boshier?.
  Are you alleging he is in the governments pocket or that he is corrupt or useless or what?.
  Might as well put it out there instead of anonymous digs…
  
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  August 22, 2022 11:11am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Most of the girls from tennis luv following me on KB.
    
    My doubles-partner just txt…. “That guy Ross must sit around with his hand on his dick all day waiting for you post something. LOL!!”
    
    Lonely Internet Man.
    
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    August 22, 2022 12:45pm
    - Ross Campbell
      
      “Most of the girls from tennis luv following me on KB”
      Yes well that speaks volumes about the quality of people who belong to your tennis club.
      Do they all claim to live in Remuera and not use the bus as well?.
      
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      August 22, 2022 1:34pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Bwhahahahahaha, the girls friend m tennis have vivid imaginations 😃👍🏻🍷
      
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      August 22, 2022 2:52pm
    - wilderbeast
      
      😂 pure gold Maggie! And probably true!
      
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      August 22, 2022 7:37pm
  - Harry Knuts
    
    Maggie’s got a point there Ross.
    Chief-Ombudsman – who’s his boss technically. NZ Govt.
    It would be akin to you investigating your boss and expecting you to keep independent. Unlikely. By association it’s a conflict of interest.
    
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    August 22, 2022 1:52pm
    - Ross Campbell
      
      Well given the Ombudsman spends virtually all his time investigating issues involving the NZ Govt and its servants by definition all of his investigations are not impartial and involve a conflict of interest if I understand what you are suggesting correctly.
      On this basis the office is redundant and should be abolished then…
      
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      August 22, 2022 3:30pm
ClanMcleod

This is an excellent review of the current state of play in the covid narrative around the planet. In my opinion. It’s a very interesting read either way.

As rather too confidently anticipated by US medical administrator Anthony Fauci on the eve of Trump’s inauguration, there was ‘no doubt’ the incoming president would be confronted with a ‘surprise’ infectious disease outbreak.

Looking back, there are strong indications that certain people knew what was coming, whatever the plausible deniability. A pandemic would enable a giant stride towards a highly regulated society, with the traditional social structures of faith, flag and family obliterated, and citizens neutered. A ‘new normal’ would be instilled, disingenuously justified by a public health emergency. Mortal fear would have more immediate impact than the other contrived crisis of climate change.

And so it came to pass. With remarkable speed World Economic Forum leader Klaus Schwab wrote a book on how to ‘build back better’ from the contagion. In The Great Reset, published in June 2020, he enthused that ‘the pandemic represents a rare but narrow opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world’.

Remember Ardern parroting the mantra “build back better”?

Full article at this link.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/memo-to-globalist-central-agent-covid-mission-accomplished/
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August 22, 2022 11:06am
- Jim
  
  Clan, I remember a radio interview of Robertson by Peter Williams.
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/02/the-great-reset-grant-robertson-pulls-out-of-weekly-slot-on-magic-talk-with-peter-williams-after-shooting-down-conspiracy-theory.html
  
  That interview touched a nerve, but the interviewer shouldn’t have let Robbo go so easily…….to say the DPM didn’t believe the reality of the well publicised WEF agenda is only likely to support a counter that he was formally establishing plausible deniability.
  
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  August 22, 2022 4:32pm
ClanMcleod

And another excellent blog post noting that some in the overseas mainstream media are noting the non covid, excess deaths everywhere. But as is pointed out, they are looking at the implications of lockdowns on these deaths while conveniently avoiding the mammoth in the room – the jabs.

But the final and most important point to highlight is that whilst the slightly curious Telegraph and other almost curious media organisations are undoubtedly correct to make the connection between some excess deaths having occurred because of the cancellation of appointments, treatments and operations, it seems they are once again up to their old trick of diverting attention from the elephant in the room. Or rather I should say the whole herd of elephants in the room bellowing for attention, by which I mean the Injections-Masquerading-as-Vaccines and the whole host of mechanisms they have for causing deteriorating health and even death.

https://www.theblogmire.com/a-herd-of-elephants-in-the-room-bellowing-for-attention/
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August 22, 2022 11:10am
- mawm
  
  I posted this above but it is just too good to miss – Neil Oliver – Our leaders have destroyed lives.
  
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/aR0Ii05hw0oi/
  
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  August 22, 2022 1:45pm
Jack5

Stuff says the Government is to take full ownership of Kiwibank.

Why would the State be stepping into beef up ownership of a bank? “Beef up”, because it already owned controlling stakes in the bank.

The ownership it is taking over is held by Kiwi Group Holdings. This is owned by NZ Post (53%), ACC (25%) and the NZ Super Fund (22%) – all State owned.

Stuff says the Government transaction puts a total value on Kiwibank of $2.1 billion.

Kiwibank is 74.67 per cent owned by Kiwi Group Holdings , with the minority balance moderately diversely held.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/129642187/government-to-take-full-ownership-of-kiwibank
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August 22, 2022 11:24am
- Jack5
  
  Stuff says: “Robertson signalled the Government was prepared to pump in further investment to help it grow”.
  
  That would have to be by Robertson and his mad mate at the Reserve Bank “printing” more money, at a time we are suffering high inflation because of earlier “money printing”.
  
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  August 22, 2022 11:36am
  - Nickc2
    
    I would strongly advise anyone with money in Kiwi Bank to withdraw it and put it somewhere else. It’s common knowledge what happens to everything this Govt touches eh?
    They’ll probably make Phil Twyford Minister for Govt Banking Services just to add to their Finance Management success rate.
    
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    August 22, 2022 11:59am
    - Ghost
      
      Why? Nothing has changed, the government owned the bank before this purchase and continue to own it, it’s just shifting around what part of the government own it.
      
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      August 22, 2022 1:58pm
      - Nickc2
        
        That’s the problem.
        
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        August 22, 2022 7:21pm
- Ghost
  
  On Zb news before Robertson claims they did it to stop a foreign take over, bullshit
  
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  August 22, 2022 12:50pm
  - Paulus
    
    Robertson sweety
    Actually no Foreign Bank would touch KiwiBank – it is not solvent enough to any purchaser and the capital injection would be unacceptable.
    
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    August 22, 2022 3:33pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  “NZ Post would pay a special dividend to the Crown which would help offset the cost, although the size and timing would be decided by the NZ Post board, he said.
  Asked about the benefit to taxpayers, Robertson said New Zealanders wanted a locally owned bank where the profits remained in New Zealand.”
  Ummm! Presume Robbo will be the nominal “shareholder” as MoF. Guess he’s not getting enough “dividend” out of his Air NZ shares so figures “government” is better at using the wind fall from rocketing “lending” rates rather than the “taxpayer” depositors.
  
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  August 22, 2022 1:18pm
  - virtualmark
    
    The Crown has always been the ultimate owner of Kiwibank. And the ultimate funder of Kiwibank. But it’s never actually had the ability to directly influence or control Kiwibank’s investment and growth.
    
    ACC and NZ Post, in particular, have been poor owners of Kiwibank, with no appetite to invest to grow the business. The Crown does have that appetite. I suspect the board and staff of Kiwibank will be very happy about this move.
    
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    August 22, 2022 4:49pm
- virtualmark
  
  Kiwibank is 100% owned by Kiwi Group Holdings.
  
  Kiwi Group Holdings was owned 53% by NZ Post, 25% by NZ Super and 22% by ACC. The Crown is “buying” all of Kiwi Group Holdings from these three current owners.
  
  I say “buying” because although cash will change hands it is all within the Crown’s broader balance sheet. So it ultimately is a question of who now controls the direction of Kiwibank, more than who “owns” it.
  
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  August 22, 2022 4:46pm
- greybeard
  
  I think that Kiwibank was a “back of an envelope” idea conjured up by Anderton to get into government.
  Exactly the same model as Jacinda’s “100,0000 new homes in 10 years”.
  
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  August 22, 2022 5:27pm
oldfella

Quick. Lock up your pets. And carefully vet all Aussie tourists plus deported 501s. //
Festival stands by professor who calls sex with animals ‘society’s last taboo’ as the bizarre event fights back amid calls to cancel the ‘zoosexuality’ talk
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11130959/Festival-Dangerous-Ideas-defends-Joanna-Bourke-sex-animals-taboo-comment.html
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August 22, 2022 12:35pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  We know they are out there. Disgusting.
  
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  August 22, 2022 2:53pm
Philview

This is a sensitive topic but per Stuff, Efesco Collins is encountering racism on the campaign trail. Stuff referenced the word ‘coconut’. This word used to have a connotation that someone was brown on the outside but white on the inside and was a slur used by blacks against each other. I am wondering if this insult against Efesco is coming from his own community.
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August 22, 2022 12:50pm
Ghost

This is great, I hope the school firmly get behind this student and feed them live mice and rats, raw fish, and build a litter box they can use

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/year-8-girl-identifying-as-cat-at-school-in-melbourne/7P32HKJLU6KI4RKYAX2JSSCYUU/

A Melbourne private school is reportedly supporting a year 8, non-verbal student in identifying as a cat.

The Herald Sun reports the “phenomenally bright” child has been allowed to assume the identity, with the behaviour linked to the ‘furries’ subculture that has been adopted by some teen circles.
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August 22, 2022 1:04pm
- Harry Knuts
  
  And yet they want to mainstream the girl who is non-verbal and thinks she’s a cat. huuhh got figure.
  
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  August 22, 2022 1:54pm
- Swifty
  
  I trust the authorities are preparing the girl for claw and fang-implant surgery.
  
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  August 22, 2022 2:18pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  There will be a mentally ill person or group behind this. What do the kids do on the weekend? Go to special school classes to get educated?
  
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  August 22, 2022 2:44pm
rangitoto

“SH59 Paekākāriki to Pukerua Bay will remain CLOSED until further notice”.

Is transmission gully open?
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August 22, 2022 1:14pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Yes, thanks to National for building it.
  
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  August 22, 2022 3:31pm
Maggie Pie

Goodness…..lucky this was a white person 🙁

https://twitter.com/MitchellMcCoy/status/1561474959347970048
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August 22, 2022 1:23pm
- Ghost
  
  https://www.myarklamiss.com/news/three-arkansas-officers-suspended-and-under-investigation-after-video-shows-alleged-beating/
  
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  August 22, 2022 1:39pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Although he got was coming by the sounds of it.
    
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    August 22, 2022 3:15pm
- Harry Knuts
  
  shit there’s some fucked up coppers out there. Hope their not in my hood. Don’t fancy myself a brain injury due to copper beating.
  
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  August 22, 2022 1:56pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Down the road boys. DCM. You are the ones giving the rest a bad image.
  
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  August 22, 2022 2:39pm
mogg

I consider my own political views to be slightly to the right of Atilla the Hun or even Ghenghis Khan, but I have to agree with many of the views in Trotters latest column. https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/117269/we-are-living-political-culture-unmoored-anything-more-edifying-petty.
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August 22, 2022 1:39pm
Ruawai

Looks like a 3 way hug with Jacinda Ardern in the Newshub photo of JA with Nelson residents today. Wonder if they will paint this image on the Nelson clock tower??
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August 22, 2022 1:59pm
Maggie Pie

Just replied to Judith….

‘Imagine if Fa’anana became Mayor.
The present NO-GO area would extend to Newton Rd’.

https://twitter.com/JudithCollinsMP/status/1561532622349955072

Auckland’s GOLDEN-MILE…..lol
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August 22, 2022 2:19pm
Harry Knuts

Did Cindy ask each person she hugged in Nelson today if they were vaxxed? If not why not?
Or did she pre-empt the hug process by asking for their vax passport first before engaging?
Asking for a friend…
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August 22, 2022 2:23pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Dr Birx on Vaccine.
Dr. Birx knew all along that the vaccine would not prevent infection.
https://dailypatriotreport.com/dr-birx-makes-shocking-admission-about-vaccine/
What say you Jaspinda, Baker, Hendy, Plank, Little, Hipkins, the Pink Terror, and all the other liars?
Overplayed? Really? Something we knew all the time? Control was the name of the game?
Grow a pair and admit you got it wrong!
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August 22, 2022 2:37pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING…..

NZ Lotteries Commission mulls proposal to make ‘IQ-Tests’ compulsory before allowing players to participate in Lotto Powerball.

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1561429741940490240
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August 22, 2022 3:01pm
- Ross Campbell
  
  Are you trying to create panic at the tennis club?.
  
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  August 22, 2022 3:34pm
Maggie Pie

LABOR NOW TOTALLY OFF-IT’S-FACE!!

Australian journalist denied entry to New Zealand to cover tomorrows ‘anti-government’ protest…

https://twitter.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1561547610523332608
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August 22, 2022 4:21pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  I read the link to the Whoreald article that the immigration officer used to make the decision not to let him in. The Herald has lost the plot completely. Look at the language. Can it be anymore smearing and character assassination???
  More to the point, where are the links to the “misinformation” or “conspiracy theories” they refer to?
  
  “An infamous Australian far-right misinformation superspreader”
  
  “Kiwi conspiracy influencer Chantelle Baker”
  
  “The pair are known to spread misinformation and falsehoods on social media in Australia.”
  
  “Baker, one of the public faces of the anti-vaccine and conspiracy movement in New Zealand”
  
  “She said she would be attending Tuesday’s protest because she wanted to bring awareness to Tokelau residents, who she claimed “are still being held under house arrest”.
  
  It isn’t a “claim”, it’s a fact. And it was done under the direction of Ardern’s father who left the role only recently.
  
  “Rukshan has also been listed as among the top 100 misinformation superspreaders by the Daily Telegraph and Herald Sun.”
  
  The stench of desperation is astonishing.
  
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  August 22, 2022 4:56pm
  - Paul Marsden
    
    Don’t forget the cancelled ferry sailing tomorrow
    
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    August 22, 2022 5:40pm
  - NK
    
    Clan, you and I know that the Herald, Stuffed and the likes of Paula Penfold are the worst Misinformation and Disinformation superspreaders in this country. There’s a war on at the moment between those who seek the truth (Voices for Freedom, Chantelle Baker et al) and those who seek to hide it and feed us bullshit (Governments and the Media).
    
    It’s little wonder trust in the MSM is at an all time low and their business are suffering huge losses and are worthless: https://nominister.wordpress.com/2022/08/22/schadenfreude-is-best-served-cold/.
    
    The war is slowly being won, but it’s a long slog. I’m up for it though and I know you are.
    
    Kia kaha mate.
    
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    August 22, 2022 5:58pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Thank you. Yes, I’m in for the long haul. I refuse to bow to bullies, thugs and narcissists. Ardern is the worst politician I have come across in my lifetime. But we will be here long after she is gone.
      
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      August 22, 2022 7:02pm
- wilderbeast
  
  Good spotting Maggie, this is a new low, and hot on the heels of the OIA tricks that Sharma is exposing and the Stuff sponsored banning of Chantelle Baker, aided and abetted by the ironically named “Public Interest Journalism” fund. For the first time in my life I’m feeling a little embarrassed and scared to be a Kiwi. The question reverberating around my head is “if the actions of the government is currently taking to suppress freedoms would have been in unconscionable only a year ago, what will they be doing in another year?”
  
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  August 22, 2022 7:43pm
- MCōs
  
  That chap has a 2018 conviction for assaulting his ex wife.
  He was detained at LAX at refused entry into the US.
  
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  August 22, 2022 8:14pm
Ra Henare

and the winners of the Keyboard warriors in todays most comments competition.
as at 4pm(at least 4 comments to enter the comp)

Steve Otto(North Shore) 30
ClanMcleod 15
G the giant from Dunedin 15
Maggie Pie 15
Master Mariner 14
Biscuit 12
Ghost 12
Harry Knuts 11
RoboRob 10
Benedict Yu 10
oldfella 9
Maggy Wassilieff 8
Frank the tank 8
Yabster 7
Jack5 7
Paulus 7
Don Beckett 5
NeverMindTheBollocks 4
septic skeptic 4
Loddenthinks 4
Alan Wilkinson 4
Gravelroad 4
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August 22, 2022 4:21pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  My excuse for only being average today is that:
  
  I had ducks to feed
  Breakfast to make
  Washing to hang out
  Kids reading to listen to
  Shopping to do
  Lunch to make
  Ducks to feed
  Gardening to do
  Neighbourhood gossip to spread
  Ducks to feed
  Washing to collect in
  Dinner to prepare…
  
  I will endeavour to do better tomorrow.
  
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  August 22, 2022 4:55pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Thats the spirit! 🙂
    Bloody ducks eh
    
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    August 22, 2022 5:14pm
  - greybeard
    
    Eat the ducks.
    Get a housekeeper .
    Hire a nanny.
    
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    August 22, 2022 5:19pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Eat the ducks.
      
      Noooooooooooo
      
      Get a housekeeper .
      Hire a nanny.
      
      I told hubby years ago to get a #2, #3 & #4 wife, but would the bugga listen?
      
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      August 22, 2022 5:43pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        Hang on – if #2 and #3 are housekeeper and nanny, what does he need #4 for?
        
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        August 23, 2022 1:12am
  - Biscuit
    
    There will be Caucus meeting of Kiwibloggers at 7.05 am tomorrow – before I sit down to watch Man Yoo-Liverpool – with the following sole topic up for discussion:
    
    That Steve Otto be fisbarred – disbarred, I say – from making any further comments here until far more deserving souls – that chap running 6th-equal whose name ISN’T Ghost springs to mind – move past him.
    
    Note: The aforementioned Steve Otto, clearly a rogue, will not be given any notice of this meeting.
    Oh, wait, I see a flaw in my logic…
    
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    August 22, 2022 5:57pm
    - Biscuit
      
      Ratsh*t typing, Biscuit.
      
      Disbarred doesn’t USUALLY come with an f as its first letter.
      
      I’ll blame that Steve Otto!
      
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      August 22, 2022 5:58pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Everything is my fault. Retired and waiting for surgery – nothing better to do. Aiming for 40 tomorrow (today)
        
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        August 23, 2022 9:28am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Bring on the Liverpool game, Salah for a hat trick!
      
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      August 22, 2022 7:04pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  I’ve been busy building a tiny home on the section, in my defence I did all my posts within about an hour. Do I get any extra points?
  
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  August 22, 2022 5:11pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  What about the combined total for Ross, Milkey & Mike? 😀
  
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  August 22, 2022 5:12pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    When I have some spare time. ie when not sitting in the sun, in the pool or checking the bars in SE Asia
    wink wink nod nod.
    Will write a script to scrape all those numbers out OF KN so you tortured souls can measure your addiction to being political tragics 🙂
    
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    August 22, 2022 5:16pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      I remember when I first joined as a contributor, there used to be like a ‘running total’ display of everyone’s posts.
      Reckon I’d be something like half-a-mil by now?
      
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      August 22, 2022 7:15pm
  - Mike
    
    Apart from one
    comment this morning, I’ve only had time to read (and laugh at) the usual parade of ignorance and ill will represented by most of those contributions.
    I’ll do better tomorrow.
    
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    August 22, 2022 5:48pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Bring examples this time. With evidence to support your claims. Your protestations and claims are always empty substance. You’re like one of those wind chimes. Occasional, annoying whistling noise but zero substance.
      
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      August 22, 2022 7:07pm
    - wilderbeast
      
      Serious question Mike: if you really believe that Kiwibloggers are best characterised as ignorant and acting in bad faith why do you come on here?
      
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      August 22, 2022 9:05pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Trolls don’t count
    
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    August 23, 2022 9:29am
- [email protected]
  
  Love it! Please do this more occasionally. I realize that this is probably a fair amount of work but maybe keep a weekly score in place of a daily score.
  
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  August 22, 2022 6:33pm
greybeard

Emma Cook’s “cartoon” in today’s Stuff is surely proof that some people don’t understand the meaning of words !

Cook ridicules someone else’s definition of democracy while at the same time demonstrating a total lack of any democratic principles as well as her own bias against those whose ideas do not coincide with hers !
What a turkey !
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August 22, 2022 5:40pm
- Ghost
  
  Hmmm, well looking at the cartoon, it looks a bit like jacinda that disagrees with democracy
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/109548012/emma-cook-cartoons
  
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  August 22, 2022 6:05pm
  - mandk
    
    It is Ardern, surely.
    
    She likes the idea of the 17% having the same say as the 83%.
    
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    August 22, 2022 6:41pm
Ghost

New screen shot from Sharma

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/pm-jacinda-ardern-faces-questions-on-upcoming-protests-gaurav-sharma-nelson-and-kiwibank-buy-out/P2PUNG5XP5ZLDSOO4NCOFLC6EY/
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August 22, 2022 6:07pm
- surfing
  
  This one looks like labour , the most transparent government ever, are trying to hide information when requested.
  
  National need to quote the prime minister’s words, then ask her why she is trying to obstruct OIA requests. She won’t answer it of course, but will refute the premise of the question.
  
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  August 22, 2022 6:26pm
- mandk
  
  It’s what you would expect from the most open and transparent government ever //
  
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  August 22, 2022 6:38pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Loved this part. Ardern really isn’t very bright.
  
  “I cannot reconcile the way these individuals have been described by Gaurav Sharma and I find it very hard to see them being attacked. When it comes to me I rely on the fact that I hope that over time people have gotten to know me.”
  
  Indeed, we have gotten to know you, it’s not very pleasant but it has been very revealing.
  
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  August 22, 2022 7:13pm
igm

How long are we, as New Zealanders, expected to be starved of these goings on?
https://thebfd.co.nz/2022/08/22/no-welcome-mat-for-avi-yemini/
There needs to be total exposure of Ardern and her communist politburo before they become completely tyrannical thanks to the bribery of MSM.
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August 22, 2022 6:38pm
Maggie Pie

My partner’s mum was wondering if Michael Fay and David Richwhite are still acting as Consultants to THIS Labor Government?

I told her I’d run it by the group…..
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August 22, 2022 6:46pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Goodness,
  are those chaps still alive?
  
  They must be 100 by now.
  
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  August 22, 2022 6:49pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Ma knew Sir Michael even before he was knighted. Fab parties apparently. She was just saying he resigned last week from the Auckland Yacht Squadron… threw his toys out of the cot over the way the next AmCup is being organised.
    
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    August 22, 2022 7:09pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      I remember visiting my sister at her flat one Saturday morning in about 1971 when a very exhausted looking Michael Fay emerged from her voluptuous flatmate’s bedroom.
      Haven’t seen him since except on TV.
      
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      August 22, 2022 7:26pm
      - MCōs
        
        So what?
        He would have been 22 at the time.
        
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        August 22, 2022 8:02pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Looking at him now Cap, you’d have to say age hasn’t been kind to him.
        Ma was horrified when she saw him on telly the other night 🙁
        
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        August 22, 2022 8:21pm
Master Mariner

Just in from Australia.

https://www.malcolmrobertsqld.com.au/barrister-releases-bombshell-legal-opinion-on-alleged-illegal-control-of-doctors-conduct/
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August 22, 2022 8:51pm
Hugh Jarse

Now that Hon. G Robertson has his hands on kiwibank, looking at his track record so far, it’s probably time for all sensible people to pull their money out of it.
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