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Warren

What a load of crap our Health Minister and the Labour Government are , instead of getting out and fixing the balls up that he and Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister have made its always the previous Government’s fault or something that was not his making.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/10/health-minister-andrew-little-doing-lots-as-new-figures-reveal-one-in-four-waiting-over-six-hours-to-be-treated-at-ed.html
How cans these idiots not be seen by the public as competent when people are dying and others are waiting a eternity to be seen in our Hospitals, what’s happening in New Zealand for our Health System to go from world class to what is now , god knows how this bumbling Health Minister has held his portfolio, its total incompetence.
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October 26, 2022 8:05am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Not much point in giving Ardern & Little & their mates another term at the helm then, is it?
  
  If after 5 years Little is still blaming National, then it proves he’s been incapable of effecting any transformational change.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:47am
  - peterwn
    
    Emergency Department waiting times were much better under National. Now why have they got worse in the last five years?
    
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    October 26, 2022 11:01am
    - Drone
      
      Covid, the Ukraine, Donald Trump, LABOUR..
      
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      October 26, 2022 11:42am
    - Close Hen Counters
      
      I see a large problem is the access to a GP/family doctor: people wait weeks for an appointment, the cost is high, quality not necessarily great, in large practices like ours, you don’t have the luxury of having just one GP… people got smart and it didn’t take long to compare this with arriving in ED. Until recently, almost guaranteed of being seen, investigated and treated within six hours, it’s free, you will be seen by a specialist or a junior training in the field, probably over investigated for free…. what’s not to like??? Covid destroyed primary care and this is the price we pay
      
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      October 26, 2022 12:15pm
      - kevn
        
        @Close… Add the inaccessibility of GP’s during covid and post covid. Also, people became too scared to visit in case they got covid. Stayed home and got sicker then became ED admissions.
        
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        October 26, 2022 4:38pm
      - TS Child
        
        @kevn
        Making doctors inaccessible during a pandemic was as sensible as sending soldiers home when was was declared. This generations opportunity to advocate for healthy living as a way to reduce risk from … pretty much most things. And instead we scared the living daylights out of everyone, and isolated them for good measure and mandated vaccines (don’t get me wrong: I’m ok with vaccines, just hate mandates with a passion). Oh and we shut down free speech and fired (effectively) some people for saying what they thought or having autonomy over their bodies. I’d say given the covid response, the health system is in surprisingly good nick – on the basis that doctors, nurses and allied staff still go to work most days.
        
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        October 26, 2022 7:03pm
      - Observer of Life
        
        Covid didn’t destroy our hospitals, the governments response did. Who in their right minds would completely shut down hospitals “waiting” for a rush, when they could have carried on until things picked up and ops etc needed to be cancelled/wards needed to be taken over for Covid cases. #ClownShow
        
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        October 27, 2022 7:32am
Benedict Yu

Car thefts in Chistchurch are out of control.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/130268364/thrillseeking-children-as-young-as-10-fuel-record-number-of-car-thefts

My partner’s son had his car stolen yesterday afternoon, in daylight, from a shopping mall carpark. This is 4 months after his previous car was written off after being extensively damaged in an attempted theft in the same carpark.

My partner spoke to one of her police contacts last night. He told her that police patrols regularly spot the stolen cars, but the kids take off at high speed and the police cannot pursue them.

This policy of no pursuit is just wrong. These kids know they are untouchable.
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October 26, 2022 8:05am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  I know 2 people who have had cars stolen over the weekend. If they are ” written off” as they cannot be repaired there is 20k of claims.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:16am
- cmm
  
  Even if they get caught there are no consequences.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:22am
  - john1234
    
    Oh, but there are consequences – they get “referred to youth aid”! I’m sure that has the little shits quaking in their boots.
    
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    October 26, 2022 8:29am
    - David Garrett
      
      John: I have had some experience with Youth Aid…in short, the cops bend over backwards – far more than they should – so the little scrotes don’t have a conviction.
      
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      October 26, 2022 10:18am
      - NZer In Exile
        
        I get the no conviction thing. That doesn’t mean there can’t be truly unpleasant consequences for criminal behaviour.
        
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        October 26, 2022 2:04pm
- cmm
  
  Since the major appeal seems to be achieving mana on Tiktok, maybe the solution is to get Tiktok to delete any accounts showing stolen vehicles.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:26am
  - john1234
    
    TikTok i.e. ByteDance, is part owned by the Chinese government. They couldn’t care less about NZ stolen vehicles.
    
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    October 26, 2022 8:34am
    - nathie
      
      True but our beloved PM is supposedly very truly gravely absolutely irrefutably concerned about social media impacts – so why isn’t she talking to her Chinese counterparts (like she does with Macron and her US/UN counterparts)?
      
      It’s not hard, she could even do it on Zoom!
      
      Or book the VIP 757 for a flying one day visit (with a 5 day ~~tourist~~ “business” stopover in various Asian countries before and after)! //
      
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      October 26, 2022 8:58am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        5 days? She needs something to escape the wrath of the bearpit
        ‘bearpit’ Jim Anderton.
        
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        October 26, 2022 9:18am
    - emmess
      
      Not just that
      China has a strategic interest in causing chaos in the West
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:09am
    - Jim
      
      Why would the CCP intervene? It’s clearly facilitating further decline of western society.
      
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      October 26, 2022 11:20am
    - AlphaWhiskey
      
      Ahhhh ByteDance! I could never work out why someone would call a website BikeDance: thank you, Sir!
      
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      October 26, 2022 2:57pm
- Black with a Vengeance
  
  Ever thought of a GPS tracker in the car to find it with a drone later on. Get some camera footage of the car, its whereabouts and the perps…
  
  Then decide how you want to play it out.
  
  Can’t rely on the police to do jack shit anymore except cruise around in their cars giving out tickets.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:35am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    The car has now been found. Broken window and (of course) ignition ripped out. We are going to pay half of the cost of an alarm and mobiliser. He has a Toyota Aqua, the top of the list for stolen cars.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:13am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      No factory installed alarm? My Landcruiser has one and it’s 2001. Bothe of my now gone Camrys had alarms 84 and 97
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:24am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Japanese imports are notorious for not having basic security features, because Japanese people are basically honest.
        Not so here, where NZ-new cars are right up with the play.
        
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        October 26, 2022 9:58am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        According to this 2018 UN data, New Zealand has the highest motor vehicle theft rate globally (apart from Bermuda which only has a population of 60,000 ). Seems incredible. And it will have worsened since 2018!
        
        https://dataunodc.un.org/data/crime/Car%20theft
        
        New Zealand car theft rate – 1,172 per 100,000 population 🙁
        
        For comparison:
        
        USA – 228.9
        Australia – 214.1
        Germany – 60.7
        Japan – 28.1
        
        This explains why it feels like it is out of control. The data proves it.
        
        Hell, this would be a great question for National to ask the Justice Minister in Parliament. “Is the Minister aware that New Zealand has the world’s highest motor vehicle theft rate? Is he intending to do anything about it?”
        
        (The data would need to be reviewed. I still find it incredible that the theft rate here is higher than places like Mexico.)
        
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        October 26, 2022 10:58am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    I’ve been saying for ages, that if the police cannot enforce the law, then citizens are going to start taking the law into their own hands.
    
    It will not be pretty.
    
    We have to let the police do their jobs, and stop hamstringing them.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:47am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Black with a Vengeance: “Ever thought of a GPS tracker in the car to find it with a drone later on. Get some camera footage of the car, its whereabouts and the perps…”
    
    The well off will do that.
    
    Can’t see the battlers in their barely legal dungers being able to afford those extras.
    
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    October 26, 2022 2:06pm
- RoboRob
  
  My son is looking at his first car. May I ask what type of cars were involved? What carpark?
  
  I know that some makes / models are much more likely to be stolen. If I recall correctly a Mazda Demio is particularly popular amoungst theives (for some reason).
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:58am
  - graham
    
    Yes, Mazda Demios are extremely popular.
    
    https://iag.co.nz/newsroom/news-releases/top-ten-stolen-cars
    
    Apparently they’re pretty simple to break into, but also I think from memory they have a relatively narrow wheelbase and can therefore fit through smaller gaps when making a getaway?
    
    Google “most stolen cars” for more info.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:14am
    - CBR600
      
      Just a point. You cannot have a narrow wheelbase. Wheelbase is the measurement between the front and rear axles. The measurement between wheels on the same axle is the “track”.
      
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      October 26, 2022 1:13pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Toyota Aqua – apparently top of the list for stolen cars.
    
    It was stolen from Barrington Mall. The young guy works night shift at the Warehouse.
    
    My suggestion would be to get your son to fit a good imobiliser and alarm. About $550 fitted.
    
    https://www.mongoose.co.nz/security/alarms-and-immobilisers/
    
    I have a 2002 Toyota Celica and the first thing I did was install one. It is not foolproof but will make it much more difficult for thieves.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:17am
    - RoboRob
      
      Interesting, thanks. Will definately look into that. Wouldn’t have guessed Barrington mall but I guess it can happen anywhere.
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:26am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Barrington Mall is a nightmare. Some kids walked into the Warehouse last week and walked out with bags of stuff. The staff called the police but the kids were long gone when they arrived. As they walked out of the shop they said to the staff and the security guard “You can’t touch us.”
        
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        October 26, 2022 9:42am
      - Tom Hunter
        
        According to John Minto the problem is poverty – and the government should be spending more money cracking down on tax fraud than benefit fraud.
        
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        October 26, 2022 10:21am
      - RoboRob
        
        @Tom
        
        The problem is that area (Barrington / Hoon hay / Cashmare) is a very middle class area. Some poorer areas and some richer areas.
        
        I grew up in that area 🙂
        
        Minto can blow it out his arse. The mans a professional protestor and knows nothing. The issue isn’t (just) poverty, its a societal issue. Evidenced by the responses from the kids.
        
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        October 26, 2022 12:13pm
    - James Stephenson
      
      Take it from me, an immobiliser doesn’t prevent the broken window, smashed ignition and associated insurance excess. I have the “good fortune” to have an older car with a good factory immobiliser…that the little scrotes apparently are unaware of.
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:27am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        I don’t take my car out anywhere at night any longer. I uber. I have secure parking at home. I would not even consider parking my car out on the street in Christchurch.
        
        This CAN be stopped. Tell the police to chase the stolen cars. If the kids kill themselves that is unfortunate, but it is not the fault of the police. And then lock them up for a minimum of 12 months. If they are younger than 14, charge the parents also. I think you would find that kids would stop stealing cars.
        
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        October 26, 2022 9:46am
      - David Garrett
        
        Bene: Some years ago a guy stabbed and killed a little scrote who had repeatedly tagged his garage door. On the night in question, there was two of them, and they ran down what they knew was a cul-de-sac. They were almost certainly planning to mug the guy when he followed them…Unfortunately for everyone concerned, the guy had a knife. He did time for manslaughter.
        
        Tagging of garage doors apparently ceased for some time after that.
        
        And before I get attacked, NO of course I do not condone the killing. But I also understand the killer’s massive frustration at having his garage tagged repeatedly. The scrote in question had a mother in Australia, Dad long gone.
        
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        October 26, 2022 11:14am
      - RoboRob
        
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        Sorry went to reply but clicked report.
        
        I had a wall that was constantly tagged. Had dreams of staking out the wall and getting the little shits. Police knew who was doing it but was no point as the parents didn’t care and the kids were too young.
        
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        October 26, 2022 12:15pm
    - rouppe
      
      I’m not sure a wee blinky light will deter thieves from smashing the window and ruining the ignition to get it started.
      
      By all means put the immobiliser in, but a good old steering lock bar is a highly visible signal that even if they do break in, they won’t get anywhere
      
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      October 26, 2022 10:14am
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      My Aqua was taken from my driveway, and I didn’t even know until the police called me in the morning to tell me (just out of bed) that my car was dumped a short distance from my house. Might have not had enough gas in the tank, is a theory, and they just steal another.
      
      No immobiliser, or alarm, and key start in these imports, so they smash the quarter glass and break the ignition.
      Seen footage from another person of their Aqua being stolen from their driveway, and timing it….30 seconds from first approaching the car and driving it away!!.
      
      We now using a steering wheel lock, and park inside the gate, well inside the property and lock the gate (i.e. changed our behaviour), and installed an alarm and immobiliser. Had to pay insurance for repairs as well too.
      
      Feeling sorry for the kids due to poverty and boredom, or blaming Covid even, is garbage.
      Like the food bank that was robbed, the food was being sold by the thieves.
      They are scum.
      This is purely selfish, destructive and awful behaviour that needs to have consequences.
      
      At the moment, the chances of getting caught seem low, and the impacts of being caught are negligible. Until both these things change, it won’t get much better.
      Even if you put up bollards, they just walk into the store in daylight with a hammer instead.
      Someone needs to die before perhaps Labour might awake from their slumber.
      
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      October 26, 2022 11:48am
  - Grizz
    
    Why not use a steering wheel lock. In a big carpark, it is easier to pinch another without one.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:25am
    - Ian Boag
      
      And it is visible.
      
      Can if course be removed but only with an angle grinder which is a moderately high bar.
      
      Shoppers likely (?) to move on to an easier vehicle.
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:42am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Yes he is getting a steering wheel lock.
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:47am
      - Tarquin North
        
        They used to make steering wheel locks that emitted a high pitched scream that would pretty much blow your ear drums if you tampered with it. Probably illegal now but the thought of making some obnoxious scrote go deaf for a while really appeals to me.
        
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        October 26, 2022 10:16am
- Raphael
  
  After I was hijacked in Jan 2002 (in South Africa) my replacement car was fitted with a gear lock (the previous one had one as well) and had a factory-fitted alarm, we also fitted it with an anti-hijacking switch (a switch in a hidden location the driver would have to press within a minute or so of the car starting or it would cut-out the engine).
  
  The idea was that if you were hijacked, and they made you drive the car, you could press the switch and still be able to drive (i.e. they would not shoot/torture you to reveal the location) but as soon as you were out of the car they could only go a shortish distance before the car would cut out.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:48am
krazykiwi

NYC vax mandate declared illegal and unconstitutional. Judge orders sacked workers reinstated with backpay. Great news, but I feel for those coerced into taking the experimental genetic injections. No justice for them.
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October 26, 2022 8:05am
- ClanMcleod
  
  I’ve been away for a few days so this may have been discussed? It looks like the wheels of justice may be slowly starting to move in the direction of some of those responsible for the monumental damage done by the Covidian cultists?
  
  and here is where the gig may be up for fauci and a great many others.
  
  the lawsuit missouri et al vs about the whole of US public health is progressing in its exploration of the explicit and deliberate role of the US government and many of its agents including fauci, murthy, biden, and jankowicz (amidst a cast of dozens and several agencies) in the systematic shaping, suppression, and censorship of information regarding covid. as those quaint few who still believe in things like “the 1st amendment” may recall, this is a bit of a constitutional no no.
  
  https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/fauci-et-al-fraud-finale?publication_id=323914&post_id=80004345&isFreemail=true
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:31am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    A downtick, I didn’t know Fauci was on KB. 😂😂😂😂😂
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:20am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      He is everywhere – such is the scaremongering by leftist Governments
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:35am
- ISeeRed
  
  That’s genuinely awesome. No constitution here, though. In Aotearoa, you have human rights. Until you don’t.
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:12am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You have human rights, until someone censors your free speech.
    Censoring is a weapon of war you know. Someone at UN told me.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:37am
Captain Mainwaring

When will the grumpy prick Angry Andy Little admit that the chaos in the hospital system is actually his responsibility and offer to resign for his incompetence?
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October 26, 2022 8:06am
- krazykiwi
  
  Take a look out the window, Capt’n. When a flock of pigs wafts gently by you will know that Angry’s contrition is imminent.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:10am
  - Opie
    
    At least the msm is starting to turn on them. 2 articles yesterday on newshub about ED and surgery wait times.
    
    It’s a start…
    
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    October 26, 2022 8:19am
    - cmm
      
      But it’s not Cindy’s fault. She tries so hard, even though she’s let down by the people around her.
      
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      October 26, 2022 8:39am
      - peterwn
        
        Yes she cannot soar like an eagle when she is surrounded by turkeys. Far better to soar to Scott Base for a few days.
        
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        October 26, 2022 11:09am
      - Paulus
        
        Is Scott Base to now have a Maori name now that Cindy is going to there – if the plane makes it and back !
        Two trips bloody expensive, but I know they are only training flights.
        
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        October 26, 2022 1:47pm
    - oldfella
      
      Opie, both 6pm TV bulletins last night led with the problems in the health system.
      
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      October 26, 2022 10:00am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Inflation is an equal opportunity toxin, even impacting the PIJF bribery fund.
      
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      October 26, 2022 11:16am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I can’t remember the last time an NZ politician resigned for policy failure reasons
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:11am
  - guardianista
    
    Denis Marshal over Cave Creek, although he had no knowledge of the substandard construction methods used.
    
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    October 26, 2022 11:20am
    - Ehlana
      
      So, 1995. 27 years ago. Outside the memory of anyone under 40 basically, since younger people would probably not be paying attention to such things.
      
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      October 26, 2022 11:39am
      - guardianista
        
        Even fewer would remember the famous sign on Harry Truman’s desk “the buck stops here” and it’s meaning. Jacinda must have missed that one in history class!
        
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        October 26, 2022 11:47am
- Simon
  
  In Little’s defense is there any govt department that is functioning properly? Wouldnt they all have to resign for incompetence?
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:24am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    There is zero defence of Little. Just because other government departments are shit has no bearing on the fact that his is utterly shit.
    
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    October 26, 2022 8:37am
  - I remember when
    
    Perhaps Inland Revenue is a shining light.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:21am
    - peterwn
      
      IRD has generally managed itself quite successfully. By and large its IT transformation (started under a National government) has been successful and has given it flexibility to deliver on Government policies such as during Covid. Similarly with WINZ IT operations. Failure of IRD and WINZ IT operations on the scale of the failure of the teachers payroll system would be a major disaster for New Zealanders.
      
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      October 26, 2022 11:16am
      - cjn
        
        If the IRD is functioning , where is my tax rebate and where is my refund for charities donations??? It’s the end of October and the return was put in in June!!
        
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        October 26, 2022 5:32pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    WINZ seems to be functioning
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:40am
    - rouppe
      
      Would be better just called INZ wouldn’t it?
      
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      October 26, 2022 10:16am
- pdm
  
  Labour cannot afford to have Angry Andy resign for incompetence because it would start an epidemic of ministerial resignations to the extent there will be no Ministers left.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:24am
  - Cassandra
    
    What, leave the best paid job they’ve ever had or ever likely to have? Never happen. But after the election at least there’ll be plenty of applicants for cleaners jobs. Not that they’ll be hired.
    
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    October 26, 2022 8:31am
    - Paulus
      
      Nah ! Angry will go back to the Unions as he is instrumental in changing the Law tonight to benefit the Unions primarily, and take more money from the lower paid workers.
      
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      October 26, 2022 1:50pm
  - Lee C
    
    Andy stepped down in favour of Jacinda. He has sacrificed himself for the good of ‘the Party’.
    
    Like Mallard, the torturer, he has a job for life for services to ‘the Cause’ …
    
    …. so F**k the taxpayer.
    
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    October 26, 2022 10:16am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Yes, but couldn’t Jacinda assign him to something innocuous such as arts funding, where Andy’s track record for stuff ups wouldn’t matter so much?
      
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      October 26, 2022 2:13pm
- Prince
  
  Couple the Health shambles with Pike River and the Justice car crash, has any minister ever wasted so many tax payer dollars for so Little effect ?
  And let’s not forget he and Peters gave us the worst PM in our history.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:30am
- john1234
  
  Never.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:35am
- G152
  
  Never. It would be (as he sees it) beneath him to admit the obvious failure is his.
  And what bunny is there who could repair the monumental damage?
  A&Es have triage in place but the numbers of equally injured and seriously ill just keep mounting up without the staff to handle them.
  And the bunnies have started another Health system to take more funding from the system that works.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:35am
- mandk
  
  Dr Do-Little’s defence is: “But the money is being spent.”
  
  You see, outputs and outcomes count for nothing. It’s only intent and inputs that matter.
  
  It’s always that way with Labour.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:42am
- RoboRob
  
  What a surprise that Labours ‘investigation’ team have come back and decided the issues are systematic and historical. Their recomendations to fix the issue are to merge the DHBs (not much of a recomendation if its already happened). You just cant make this shit up. Wonder how much we paid for this ‘research’.
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:01am
  - Lance
    
    They were also saying that follow up consultations are not needed FFS. That will free up more doctor time.
    So after MAJOR surgery you just have to wait for complications to be admitted again under emergency with far worse outcomes.
    IMBECILES
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:32am
  - nathie
    
    Wonder how much we paid for this ‘research’.
    
    You can bet (whatever) the cost is being added to the next “Labour has spent 40% more on health than National” press-release being prepared as we speak!
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:35am
- Its only I
  
  No chance.
  Remember “his” union boys went after non union mine workers publicly raising concerns about a certain mines safety. Then when the tragedy happened calmly announced on TV it was a well run mine. Just like Labour today: ,”oh, really?, bad you say, that’s news to me”
  Politising those families grief for personal gain says it all really.
  Winston was no better though.
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:17am
artemisia

The government is finally doing something to reduce the social housing waiting list.

Last couple of months the number of exits from the social housing waiting list has increased sharply. Surely more going into social housing. But no.

For example, in August, 531 from the waiting list were housed and 1161 were no longer on the waiting list, including those moved into social housing. That same month 1563 new households were added to the waiting list.

Anyone else think the Minister had a word with her department? Reminded them there’s an election next year and the stats are making her so sad.

The below link allows different months and time ranges to be entered, so easy to see what the figures for exits etc were 3 months ago for example.

https://www.hud.govt.nz/stats-and-insight/the-government-housing-dashboard/housing-register/
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October 26, 2022 8:07am
- RoboRob
  
  So just shuffling the stats then?
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:03am
Frank the tank

Can anyone explain why Clark Gayford was on the flight to Antarctica? What spousal duties and what dignitaries was he meeting?

Or was it just another holiday?
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October 26, 2022 8:08am
- Ghost
  
  Joan went with Jim Bolger to Antarctica. Bronagh went with John Key to Antartica. Peter went with Clark to Antartica. No one ever cared about them going
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:32am
  - cmm
    
    Married, married, married, current boyfriend.
    
    Of course he had to go. There’s a hole in the back fence at home.
    
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    October 26, 2022 8:41am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      Pretty cynical statement. Not “current boyfriend”, long term de facto partner of several years. Like a large percentage of the living arrangements of many younger people. You must have relatives in the same circumstances.
      
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      October 26, 2022 8:57am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Quite, I’ve been in a de facto relationship with my ‘current girlfriend’ for 23 years.
        And I’m a lucky man. She is a darling.
        
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        October 26, 2022 9:12am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      ‘Hole in the back fence’
      Very good!
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:48am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Doesn’t make it right though does it.
    
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    October 26, 2022 8:46am
    - Warren
      
      I want to know how I could get a television show on TV about fishing , house moving around NZ and maybe a show about the ice in Antarctica, I’m sure you would get paid pretty well.
      
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      October 26, 2022 10:35am
      - Ghost
        
        He’s been doing tv long before he got involved with jacinda
        
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        October 26, 2022 10:42am
  - I remember when
    
    Ghost:
    You were right until you got to the last sentence.
    There are always people who care about them going.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:32am
  - The Housekeeper
    
    Was the country falling apart?
    
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    October 26, 2022 1:14pm
    - Ghost
      
      And what do you think jacinda could be doing by not going down? Nothing is going to suffer by her not being here. she has left on the USA plane. She will be meeting with Americans when there. Country will still be in a mess next week, next month, next year.
      
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      October 26, 2022 1:28pm
      - Paulus
        
        She is staying as far away as she can as the Mahuta Scandal evolves as she can say I was away, and will do a review.
        
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        October 26, 2022 1:53pm
      - Ghost
        
        I’m sure the Maori Caucus will unstruct her that there is nothing to see here, move on
        
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        October 26, 2022 2:15pm
- john1234
  
  He heard the penguin fishing is good at this time of year.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:35am
  - kowtow
    
    Doing research on Polar Bears , and why there have been no sightings of the Antarctic species for an upcoming doco ……
    
    ……or a house building show on how Eskimos who’ll become climate refugees and will move there and could build climate resilient igloos in an era of increased temperatures …….
    
    ……or in a nod to his televisual beginnings a doco on hunting for the elusive polar scientist doing the walk of shame ……..
    
    I’ll get my coat.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:27am
    - Lee C
      
      You won’t be needing it where you are going, kowtow…
      
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      October 26, 2022 10:20am
    - Matt Long
      
      Obviously sightings of polar bears in Antarctica are rare because they are being starved to death by climate change.
      Kill more cows and save the polar bears of Antarctica!!!!!
      
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      October 26, 2022 11:51am
- artemisia
  
  Don’t have a problem with partners going along. The big job means they don’t see much of each other.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:36am
  - cmm
    
    Never before has there been one who has been so good at making the big job into a little job.
    
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    October 26, 2022 8:53am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  It’s cold there. She needs someone to keep her warm at night.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:38am
- RoboRob
  
  The real question is why the hell she is even going. All of these prime ministerial trips to Antarctica as just ‘perks’. We need to stop wasting money sending dignitaries to a scientific base.
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:06am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    We all know why she is going to Antarctica. Avoiding the bearpit, there are questions to be answered.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:55am
- Libertarians are right
  
  No problem with it as long as he isn’t doing any filming for a show. If he’s filming for personal benefit I have a big problem with it.
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:30am
  - cmm
    
    Filming for the #CinD4UN! show reel?
    
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    October 26, 2022 3:20pm
Tomtoddy

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/ideasroom/how-violent-forms-of-civil-disobedience-may-become-justified

Written by Dr David Jenkins who is a UK-based lecturer in political theory at the University of Otago. Another academic twit without a useful job.

Advocating breaking the law including such unbelievably dangerous actions as …. “For example, flying drones through major airports’ airspaces – which is illegal – will effectively shut down that airspace until those drones are cleared, thereby massively disrupting a major cause of emissions”. It could also crash a plane with a couple of hundred people on board, too.

Isn’t this ‘inciting criminal acts’…. ”But our institutions might be failing for other reasons, reasons that mean murderous state violence is unnecessary in certain jurisdictions because other means have been found to effectively neuter protest. In such circumstances, more radical – and violent – forms of action may become justified and necessary”.

He should be jailed.
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October 26, 2022 8:08am
- Benedict Yu
  
  It is all crap. Air travel is forecast to double through to 2040.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:17am
  - Colville
    
    and I will be doing my part to burn as much avgas as possible……I am 55 now and have a good 20 years to see a lot of places!
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:24am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      JET A1. “Av gas” is used in small planes with gasoline powered engines 🙂
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:49am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Clocking out in 20 years? I’m not. 70 now and full steam ahead.
      Third time to Alaska in 2 years. Then what?
      
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      October 26, 2022 10:01am
    - rouppe
      
      60. I was going retire, by selling a rental but current conditions screwed that.
      
      I’m doubling down on emissions though, early next year jetting to South East Asia and motorcycling through 2 countries
      
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      October 26, 2022 10:22am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Quite. I’m a Jet-A fan from way back having traveled to Europe more than 30 times. Two of those trips were in the same fortnight! Also lots of Asia, some North America, a little South America, but no Africa. Yet. Mrs kk and I love experiencing new cultures.
      
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      October 26, 2022 10:28am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        No need to leave NZ, KK, just head on down to Mt Roskill. All part of Helen Clark’s policy of bringing the world to NZ!
        
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        October 26, 2022 2:17pm
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Agreed, should be indeed.
  
  What is basically proposed is if you personally believe your cause is just, you have the ability to step outside of the bounds of the law.
  
  Take that to its natural and obvious next step.
  
  Protestors gluing themselves to motorways are causing massive economic damage and costing the average driver real money. Drive through them.
  
  The debate these days is all about rights – weve lost sight of responsibilities and accountability.
  
  Wasn’t that long ago that protestors were a river of filth anyway, according to this government. We should be able to mow them down – or does the cause make a difference?
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:19am
  - RoboRob
    
    This has always been the view of the left. It’s always ‘the ends justify the means’. Liberal Hollywood has been slamming this mantra down the worlds throat for decades, with movies showing heroes for the ‘right cause’ doing all sorts of nasty and illegal deeds.
    
    Black rights matter was a good cause, so riots were noble and justified. Assassinating world leaders in foreign country is good. But if some other country was to try that in the US that would be terrible.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:14am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The man/woman/trans/lgbtq made (doing my best to be “inclusive”) – climate change scam is challenging the covid scam for the title of greatest scam in the history of humanity. That is some award.
  The way some of these enviro lunatics are behaving they are looking like favourites for the trophy.
  In all seriousness though they are developing dangerous traits bordering on psychopathic.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:24am
  - mandk
    
    The correct term is Eco-fascist.
    
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    October 26, 2022 8:46am
- cmm
  
  This links back to what DPF was saying yesterday he hopes never happens in NZ.
  
  Whether it is crashing planes, spiking car tyres or smashing “Nazis” with bike locks, these deranged lefties feel they are entitled to inflict violence on those who disagree with their ideologies.
  
  From their point of view they are justified. They have been brought up believing that climate change is an existential threat etc.
  
  Somehow it is always some other that has to pay the bill for their derangement:
  * Flying is evil, unless it is Jimmy Shaw going to attend Yet Another Climate Meeting.
  * The world must stop burning coal (except it’s fine to do so in Europe right now).
  * …
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:47am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Europe has gone mad. They are clear felling ancient forests to produce wood pellets for heating, because wood is “renewable” an coal is evil.
    
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/07/world/europe/eu-logging-wood-pellets.html
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:53am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Shiploads of wood pellets going to the UK from the US
      
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      October 26, 2022 10:05am
      - cmm
        
        Yup, this has been going on for years…
        Chop down native forests in USA.
        Barge them down the Mississippi on diesel burning shipping.
        Chip them
        Load onto oil fired ships and ship to UK.
        Load onto diesel burning trucks
        Take to power plants where they are sustainably burned.
        
        Somehow that is sustainable but photosynthesis on farms is not.
        
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        October 26, 2022 11:32am
    - rouppe
      
      Yep, that is what they mean by “biomass”.
      
      Not waste product being burned, but virgin forest
      
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      October 26, 2022 10:25am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Gee. I hope they are recalculating Co2 targets //
      
      Sorry, I couldnt help myself.
      
      Maslows Hei…cy of needs is still valid.
      Food, shelter is still at the top.
      
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      October 26, 2022 12:18pm
- I remember when
  
  When it’s okay to break the law: David Jenkins.
  To be clear, throwing soup at paintings, trashing national monuments, blocking roads, and much more besides, are all absolutely justified given the scale of the problems being faced and the lack of action to address climate change. But only if they work.
  
  Has anyone noticed any improvements in the effects of climate change.
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:53am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Climate is changing every day. Roll on summer.
    
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    October 26, 2022 10:07am
- Tom Hunter
  
  Just a variation on Marcuse’s nasty little Repressive Tolerance article from 1965. The Left are increasingly running that playbook.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:35am
NeverMindTheBollocks

An interesting article; Rishi’s FiL is not your average billionaire or software mogul.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/25/rishi-sunak-father-in-law-narayana-murthy-billionaire-who-does-the-dishes
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October 26, 2022 8:08am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Well, incidentally, he is also co founder of the WEF but of course that has no bearing or relevance on the new PM’s support (or otherwise) for the “great” reset, Agenda 2030, or any of the other myriad of lunatic conspiracy theories doing the rounds. 😬🤔😂
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:42am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    And it goes without saying that Rishi himself is another WEF student, but nothing to see here….
    
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    October 26, 2022 8:48am
    - All_on_Red
      
      The test will be to see what he does about Fracking.
      If he agrees to cancel the ban then that’s good, hes doing the right vthing for the country, but…if we see there’s going to be a ‘review’ or a delay or not at all. Then yep, WEF and Establishment stooge.
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:04am
      - Master Mariner
        
        They have NO alternative but too Frack.
        Either that or no energy.
        Something that Truss understood.
        
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        October 26, 2022 12:21pm
- kowtow
  
  Creepy Joe can’t pronounce his name correctly , yet another major gaff .
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:35am
  - Its only I
    
    Creepy Joe seems to live rent free in your head.
    
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    October 26, 2022 3:15pm
    - kowtow
      
      Nah , just trying to provide some balance for the media not reporting him .
      
      In contrast to the truely strange obsession with all things Trump.
      
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      October 26, 2022 4:04pm
      - Its only I
        
        There has always been a strange obsession with the Trump Brand. Trump has traded on it for decades.
        
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        October 26, 2022 5:24pm
- cmm
  
  That “nice guy”, James Shaw has a billionaire brother in law.
  
  It is always odd to me how these people who dis the wealthy are often well connected themselves.
  
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  October 26, 2022 3:24pm
Tomtoddy

Some state paid writer, Tim Murphy writing about Labour’s chances at the next election manages to blame everything but their own incompetence. It takes some wilful blindness and writing gymnastics not to say they are to blame because they are totally useless.
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October 26, 2022 8:18am
Southern Raider

Our hundreds of millions of dollars national health authority yesterday stated that despite major issues in our hospitals that “targets are a distraction”

All hope is gone
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October 26, 2022 8:25am
- Prince
  
  On Morning Report today Labour’s Mani Dunlop found someone who agreed with her that suggested targets were unnecessary.
  Apparently they would be too hurtful to the professionals in the system.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:34am
  - nathie
    
    Eh, was it Labour’s Kiri Allan by chance? 😉
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:40am
    - Paulus
      
      Dunlops new Fiance, following Kiri Allen’s divorce, is now a new leading RNZ media commentater –
      Kiri will tell her, in Maori of course, what to say and do !
      Should be great for RNZ in the next Election year.
      
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      October 26, 2022 1:58pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Potential conflict of interest there. RNZ is hardly going to give Kiri a damn good interrogation, is it!
        
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        October 26, 2022 2:20pm
- cmm
  
  In some ways they are correct.
  Ask any nurse on the ward what the problems are and they will tell you they are overworked without having to make spreadsheets.
  But the real problem is that they are not measuring and nor are they listening to the people at the coalface.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:50am
  - nathie
    
    Woah … thanks, I hadn’t thought about that (doh me!).
    
    Soooo Labour removing “targets” is not so much about staff not needing to spend (precious) time filling in “spreadsheets” …. but instead so nothing is “measured” to gather stats so that nothing can be analysed to better understand what is and isn’t working (and what can be better targeted with precious taxpayer funding)?
    
    Wow where is the outrage from the MSM about this duplicity?
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:47am
- ClanMcleod
  
  So why are the government aiming for “net zero”, zero road deaths and had a zero covid policy (until reality gave them a swift reality check as it does) – aren’t they also “targets”?
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:52am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    I left out “10,000 new houses” because that is a moronic a policy as “covid elimination”.
    
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    October 26, 2022 8:53am
    - Trev
      
      It was 100000 not 10000 new houses but even decimating/reducing the target to one tenth of the original they have still failed miserably. Labour are just totally incompetent at everything except spin but the effect of that is wearing off.
      
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      October 26, 2022 10:13am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Not targets, CM – “aspirations”.
    
    That’s very different, dontcha know
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:04am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      I refude that….
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:22am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Zero this , zero that goes all the way back to WEF group think.
    If you want to do business with the so called ” partners” you have to change your policies to reflect this.
    As far as NZ goes , it helps to get a higher ESG score.
    Nothing more, nothing less.
    
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    October 26, 2022 11:20am
Captain Mainwaring

So NZ1 was going to divert to Fiji and then it wasn’t. And flight radar says it still is, even though it’s now on approach to Auckland.
What a bugger’s muddle.
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October 26, 2022 8:28am
- kowtow
  
  KIW293 currently on flightradar , on tarmac at Chch .
  
  How many more carbon indulgences required for this trip.
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:37am
- Master Mariner
  
  Zero this , zero that goes all the way back to WEF group think.
  If you want to do business with the so called ” partners” you have to change your policies to reflect this.
  As far as NZ goes , it helps to get a higher ESG score.
  Nothing more, nothing less.
  
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  October 26, 2022 11:21am
- Master Mariner
  
  Bordering on negligence.
  Questions,
  1. How much reserve fuel is too remain onboard upon arrival during “flight Routeing”.
  2. How accurate is the weather routeing ?
  3. If not satisfied why are is the Captain still accepting the Flight Route.
  4. Is CAA invesigating these incidents ?
  Real rime data regarding Jetstreams ( prevalent going East to West) is highly accurate as well with live forcasting.
  No excuses there.
  Plenty of questions that need to be answered though!
  
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  October 26, 2022 11:48am
  - Paulus
    
    Presumably a new RNZAF crew are waiting at McMurdo as the incoming crew will have done their hours on the incoming flight.
    Will the aircraft wait there, or return again, and return again, to retrieve the lovely honeymoon couple.
    
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    October 26, 2022 2:02pm
    - Ghost
      
      News reported she caught a ride with the usa
      
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/10/jacinda-ardern-en-route-to-antarctica-again-after-first-flight-turned-around.html
      
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      October 26, 2022 2:10pm
      - Paulus
        
        Yes, I thought it was an error as was named as a C17 aircraft of which we do not have.
        
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        October 26, 2022 2:14pm
      - Ghost
        
        Sadly, we sure could do with a few
        
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        October 26, 2022 2:24pm
    - Observer of Life
      
      Paulus: I’m pretty certain the RNZAF pilots aren’t flying hours limited.
      
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      October 27, 2022 8:26am
Opie

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/10/have-your-say-do-you-want-tax-cuts.html

What’s going on here?

Newshub survey on whether you want tax cuts – 82% said no. How is this possible? Surely every worker wants to pay less tax?

Is it a result of a fear campaign saying tax cuts will crash the economy like the UK? (Which was of course due to overspending not cutting taxes)

Was it just poor people thinking that tax cuts are for rich pricks? When tax cuts help the poor the most as they are anti inflationary compared to one off payments.

The other interesting going was that this survey attracted 55k votes. Normally they get around 5k. I suspect this is some kind of deliberate cyber attack to push a result as desirable to back up the current mismanagement by robberson but it all seems a bit strange.
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- Ghost
  
  Really? They have played with it, when I did it last night it was at 65% yes. Newshub have altered the results.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:41am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Quelle surprise. As has been pointed out many times, 1984 wasn’t a novel, it was an instruction manual.
    
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    October 26, 2022 8:55am
  - Opie
    
    Check the link, it would be interesting to see if the result is different on different devices?
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:46am
    - Ghost
      
      At 80% now for no
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:54am
  - Paulus
    
    The result was determined before the questions asked anyway, as usual.
    
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    October 26, 2022 2:03pm
- Taieri
  
  Tax cuts or threshold adjustments? This poll doesn’t specify which.
  
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  October 26, 2022 8:55am
  - Opie
    
    Does it matter? You either want to keep more of your hard earned money or give it to the government to piss away on virtue signalling and working groups.
    
    I’d pay more (or not take a cut) if I got more, but you already realistically need health insurance as the public system is so shit.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:49am
    - Taieri
      
      Yes it does. The threshold adjustment is not a tax cut.
      
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      October 26, 2022 9:59am
      - Opie
        
        Semantics much?
        
        Whether its a rate cut or a bracket adjustment the end result is you pay less tax.
        
        I don’t care what it’s called, I’m sick of giving my hard earned money to the government to waste.
        
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        October 26, 2022 11:00am
- ISeeRed
  
  All online polls are crap. For obvious reasons.
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:19am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Dominion vote counting machines, bought second hand from the Democrats.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:19am
- Lee C
  
  By God they will be in for a shock on the morning after thenext election, though.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:23am
RockyJ

Yesterday I commented on how an Auckland iwi were setting up an unlawful vigilante fisheries patrol and enforcement operation with their purchase of three patrol boats. For “the benefit of the whole community”. Aww.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/environment/130243979/auckland-iwi-take-the-helm-of-fisheries-enforcement

Later it occurred to me that the Department of Conservation is setting up 12 “High Protection Areas” in the gulf which will be subject to customary fishing rights- read a fish farm for the exclusive use by a chosen race. My thoughts were always that MPI does not have the resources to patrol these.
https://www.doc.govt.nz/haveyoursayonthegulf

Joining the dots it seems to me that the vigilantes have no interest in “the whole community” but have been set up to provide the muscle needed to enforce 12 customary rights zone.

More bullshit and lies
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October 26, 2022 8:30am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Whoops – fat fingered downtick – apologies
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:06am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  This morning Ngati Manuhiri spokeswoman confirmed that their patrol folk won’t be official Fishery Officers.
  
  Ngāti Manuhiri won’t become fishery officers, says acting CE Nicola McDonald.
  
  https://www.teaomaori.news/ngati-manuhiri-patrol-hauraki-gulf-christmas
  
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  October 26, 2022 4:13pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTnSExQW6BY
Everything is going right for the Republican’s ahead of midterms.

Former White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney spoke to Sky News presenter James Morrow about the upcoming midterm elections. He says there is a ‘shift to the republicans’ in states like New York which was formally a one party state. He also said Republicans could win some seats in California if ‘everything goes right.’ “There has to be a crime problem, there is, the economy has to be in shambles, which it is, the Democrat leadership has to be sort of in disarray, which is it is,” he said. He also revealed that the ‘national leaders are so unpopular’ so they can’t go out and campaign with the party members, so they are left to run ‘on their own.’ [6:02]
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October 26, 2022 8:31am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVJ4DKaMVf0
What is The Disinformation Project & why is it so secretive?

Sean Plunkett pulls Stalinda’s ‘Disinformation Project’ apart. [36:04]
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October 26, 2022 8:32am
Inandout

New Yorkers and Californians are leaving to settle in Florida in the main because those areas are becoming intolerable due to crime and taxes. This Rubin interview of an ex Hollywood Hills resident is revealing and it is scary to realise New Zealand could end up this lawless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYqbfvHm-z8
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October 26, 2022 8:57am
- ISeeRed
  
  Then they vote Democrat for the same ruinous policies. It defies belief.
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:22am
  - curry4me
    
    Not always. Some will be Republicans, or independants. Others will be Dems who have been red pilled.
    
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    October 26, 2022 4:12pm
- virtualmark
  
  And yet crime rates in FL are actually higher than in CA and NY.
  
  If you’re really worried about serious crime (ie serious assaults, gun violence, murder) don’t go to MS, LA, KY, AL, MO or SC. They top the tables for serious crime. And all are red states.
  
  Jacksonville is the city with the highest murder rate in the US (19.8 per 100,000 residents, equivalent to Auckland having 330 murders pa). Jacksonville is in Florida.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:34am
  - virtualmark
    
    Update: Other sources have St Louis (MO) as the city with the highest murder rate in the US. Followed by Baltimore (MD).
    
    Looks like each list is slightly different (prob using different definitions, years etc). But St Louis does seem to consistently be a place to avoid.
    
    So apologies to Jacksonville. Even 19.8 murders per 100,000 people isn’t enough to get a high ranking. Sheesh. ‘Murica!
    
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    October 26, 2022 10:42am
- Tom Hunter
  
  The Left’s Funny New Lie: It’s The ‘Red States’ With More Crime!. Just a quick sample of the fun they had with this BS that’s been pushed by Lefty group Third Way for some months now:
  
  The No. 1 state on Third Way’s list is Mississippi. Sure enough, the statewide vote in the 2020 election was for Trump. But within the state, Hinds County residents voted for Joe Biden, 3 to 1. Mississippi’s biggest city, Jackson, is in Hinds County. You know where this is going.
  
  Reporting on Jackson last year, CNN declared it “one of the deadliest U.S. cities.”
  
  The mayor of Jackson is Chokwe Antar Lumumba, a Democrat. The district attorney is Jody Owens, a Democrat.
  
  No. 2 on the list is Louisiana. Trump won that state, too. But on the more local level, he lost Orleans, the parish that contains New Orleans, the state’s most populous city. Residents there went for Biden almost 8 to 1.
  
  “New Orleans had the highest homicide rate of any major city so far this year, with about 41 homicides per 100,000 residents.”— The Wall Street Journal, Sep. 16, 2022
  
  The mayor of New Orleans is LaToya Cantrell, a Democrat. The district attorney is Jason Williams, also a Democrat…..
  
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  October 26, 2022 12:20pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Tom,
    
    My take is that the main drivers of serious crime in the US are social deprivation, substance abuse, and access to guns. Not which political party represents you.
    
    The red states tend to be poorer (for example see my earlier list of MS, LA, KY, AL, MO and SC) so that goes to social deprivation. But there’s plenty of social deprivation in rich states too (Detroit and parts of Chicago and LA being simple examples).
    
    I don’t believe that, to use the example you cite, that New Orleans changing from a Democrat mayor to a Republican mayor would make much difference to crime rates. Neither party appears to have a solution to social deprivation, or substance abuse, or would put a dent in criminal’s access to guns.
    
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    October 26, 2022 1:07pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Lol
      You are so in denial.
      Good fisking Tom
      
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      October 26, 2022 2:19pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Fisking? Nope.
        
        Go back to my original comment.
        
        First, the worst states in the USA for serious crime are MS, LA, KY, AL, MO and SC. AFAIK that is the case. I’m happy if someone has better information that can prove otherwise.
        
        Second, the first reference I saw said that Jacksonville was the worst *city* for murder in the USA. Then when I saw other references that said otherwise I corrected it, not Tom.
        
        And I agree with Tom that even within states and cities, there are some parts of states/cities that are worse than others.
        
        You see to be trying oh so very hard. But it seems to come out more a vapid shade of mauve rather than all Red.
        
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        October 26, 2022 2:36pm
  - curry4me
    
    Very interesting. I hadn’t suspected that the high crime spots in red states would be run by Dems.
    
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    October 26, 2022 4:20pm
    - Tom Hunter
      
      I see the usual suspects in Democrat partisanship, Dana Millbank and now Krugman, both picking this up and running with it in the MSM.
      
      The simple fact is that across the USA the Democrats are getting smashed over the issue of rapidly rising crime and their “ideas” that have contributed to it: bond changes and dropped charges that see arrestees back on the street in hours, early prisoner release and so forth. Hell, in my old home town of Chicago the new “Safe-T Act” has things like robbery and even 2nd degree murder as “non-detainable offenses” FFS.
      
      And just as with Third Way’s BS the rest of the state of Illinois is a hell of a lot safer than Chicago. The whole point of looking at this issue by state rather than by city or county is an effort to obscure what’s really happening and create a Democratic friendly talking point in the process.
      
      Remove those “Blue” cities and those “Red” states look even safer.
      
      The people leaving those places certainly are not fooled by such crap.
      
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      October 26, 2022 4:37pm
Scooter

I noticed that Grant Robertson is questioned harder than Jacinda in the post cabinet press conferences, one was what he thought were the shortfalls or failures after 5 yrs of Labour Govt. Which he managed to spin around into what he thought they had done well. Also why is it you can clearly hear the questions being asked by the media in Grant’s interview but in Jacinda they are always muted, afraid it will show she never answers the questions?
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October 26, 2022 8:57am
- Weinerpoop
  
  Great observation, I have often wondered why you can never hear the questions she is asked in those post cabinet interviews.
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:42am
  - kevn
    
    @Weiner… Media manipulation as instructed.
    
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    October 26, 2022 10:25am
Surely Knott

Premier of Alberta will cut ties with the World Economic Forum. Premier Smith. ” I guess I find it distasteful that billionaires brag about the control about how much control they have over political leaders. And that is offensive. The people who should be directing govt are the people who vote for them. And the people who vote for me and my colleagues are people who live in Alberta and who are affected by our decisions……. My focus is here in Alberta, solving problems for Albertans, with a mandate from Albertans.”
Boom! Imagine that. So no overseas photo ops for her, she’s staying home, doing the job and fixing problems. No interest in overseas billionaire lobby groups. Brilliant.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1584682197646454784
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October 26, 2022 9:00am
- Alex
  
  Surely Knott,
  Unlike the Dear Leader we have here, visiting Black Rock and others who run the financial affairs clandestinely.
  Sold out to them, Kiwis don’t matter, bring in UN edicts on health, our sovereignty gone!
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:19am
- krazykiwi
  
  Told mrs kk about Danielle Smith and confessed to being in love. With her politics, of course. Cue slightly wrinkled, wry smile from mrs kk.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:36am
  - mawm
    
    My current “love” is Kari Lake. Sharp as a whip, looks good as well.
    
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    October 26, 2022 7:04pm
- H. Upmann
  
  Calling Luxon……come in Luxon….
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:38am
Alex

Moscow is taking claim to UN about Kyiv’s dirty bomb attack which means it will be their false flag attack instead.
According to Telegraph Putins successor is bespectacled neat man confidant known as “Kinder Surprise” Sergei Kiriyenko.
Remember Sarin gas attack in Syria.
Nothing new to see here.
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October 26, 2022 9:10am
- Ghost
  
  This was interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw84nOmGLcw
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:19am
Surely Knott

And more from the great nations of the North. Sweden scraps it’s climate and environment ministry and will not be meeting it’s agenda 2030 targets. Pieced together from various smaller news media. It seems they will still have a “Minister of Climate and Environment but she will work under the Minister for Energy, Business and Industry. ” “Bloomberg reported that the nationalist Sweden Democrats do not support the country’s goal of net-zero emissions by 2045.”

““It is regrettable, but I’m not surprised, as the government’s plans indicate a dismantling of environmental policy,” Uppsala University researcher Mikael Karlsson told newspaper Dagens Nyheter, as Bloomberg News reported. “Their subsidies of high consumption of electricity and fossil fuels are at odds with the foundations of environmental policy that has been in place for the last 50 years.””

Hmmmm so we’ve dismantled our oil industry and are trashing the farming sector but Sweden protects their economy and way of life.

https://www.thelocal.se/20221019/today-in-sweden-a-roundup-of-the-latest-news-on-wednesday-70/

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202210/21/WS6351f5e8a310fd2b29e7dbe0.html
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October 26, 2022 9:15am
- krazykiwi
  
  Greta and her handlers will be in sack cloth and ashes. The wailing will be audible from space. Excellent.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:38am
- Tom Hunter
  
  Look for Sweden to be dumped into the same pot as Hungary and Poland, with the by-now-standard screaming about the Far Right in Europe increasing in power.
  
  Blackouts, freezing cold, and floods of illegal immigrants and “refugees” will tend to do that.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:43am
Ghost

So as it stands at the moment it appears he is being allowed to represent NZ overseas. Hmmm, wonder if he will come back

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/international-new-zealand-sportsman-accused-of-sex-offending-against-teen/QVKA2LDMH74TPOG43NX7GWB5CI/

An international Kiwi sportsman faces up to 10 years behind bars after being accused of having sexual contact with a 15-year-old girl and sending her crude photos.
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October 26, 2022 9:16am
Scooter

Maybe someone should set up a Facebook “Where is Jacinda Ardern” page (like the one for Clarke) what with the increasing number of overseas trips and recent diversions, it might help to know where our dear leader is.
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October 26, 2022 9:18am
- Ghost
  
  No, leave her alone to take her trips, getting in as many as she can before she steps down
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:22am
  - kevn
    
    @Ghost… 8 hours (and return) in the flying freight train… go for it.
    
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    October 26, 2022 9:58am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Kevn, if i had the time on my hands, I would of checked out the weather myself and pretty sure i would of figured out whether the flight was viable or not.
      Question, Was pressure put on Flight team to Fly?
      
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      October 26, 2022 12:00pm
  - Scooter
    
    And into obscurity.
    
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    October 26, 2022 10:07am
Maggie Pie

As you’ll all have probably realised, I was away for the long weekend.
One of the nicest we’ve had at Tindalls weather-wise for about a decade 😎

Just caught up with a bestie from tennis who resides out at St Heliers.
She was telling me they’ve had at least nine ramraids there in the last few months, and then completely unprovoked on Saturday night, some drunken lowlife stabbed a couple of people in the new 4Square Supermarket. One seriously!!

She blames the government for closing the local Police Station.

As I said to her, they have far more pressing priorities these days….

https://twitter.com/mikeall84403276/status/1584300372390481920
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October 26, 2022 9:21am
- Taieri
  
  some drunken lowlife stabbed a couple of people in the new 4Square Supermarket
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  4Square Supermarket in St Heliers? Do they have Pak’n’Slave there as well?
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:02am
- Tom Hunter
  
  Can confirm all of that. The gangs are increasing their presence as well via very loud motorbike rides along Tamaki Drive, and there are now hangers-on in the form of younger kids in their cars with loud speakers mounted on the roof and blasting rap music.
  
  They’re clearly doing it just to piss off the locals and show their power that they can’t be touched.
  
  And they can’t be.
  
  I’d like to use Lenin’s “The worse, the better”, but I suspect that this won’t work nowadays, having looked at San Francisco and LA.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:48am
  - Taieri
    
    And they can’t be.
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    Only because the State has abrogated its most essential functions.
    
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    October 26, 2022 1:09pm
- MCōs
  
  The St Heliers community police station wasn’t manned by police for years.
  https://www.facebook.com/SimonOConnorMP/videos/our-police-station-in-st-heliers-has-been-closed-and-going-up-for-sale/1032157564245148/
  
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  October 26, 2022 2:45pm
MCōs

One thing I found interesting about the new UK Pm.
He said he was going to sort out the terrible economic situation the country found itself in.
As I recall he was the chap responsible for the economy up until he resigned about four months ago over unrelated matters.
Imagine if Grant Robertson resigned now over some perceived scandal that brought down the PM and reappeared as PM at the end of February and said he was going to fix the economy?
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October 26, 2022 9:38am
- Nickc2
  
  Robertson’s not a good example. If he resigned, I wouldn’t believe it due to the number of lies he tells and if he tried to stand for PM, I think even he knows he could count his votes on the fingers of one hand.
  
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  October 26, 2022 9:48am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Imagine if Grant Robertson resigned now over some perceived scandal that brought down the PM and reappeared as PM at the end of February
  
  And I was starting to enjoy my morning… the sun’s out; I’ve hung out the washing; hubby’s brought me a nice latte…and then you inject a horror scenario into the mix.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:35am
I remember when

Increased Ozone Hole results in increased UV levels.
A possible reason suggested has been the Tonga eruption.
Volcanic eruptions release immense amounts of water into the stratosphere, where it can remain for a number of years.
No mention of any possible affects on temperatures or rainfall – climate change.?
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October 26, 2022 10:03am
- G152
  
  OMG water in the atmosphere
  How will we survive?
  Rain rain go away
  Come back as ozone or glowball warming
  Come back today
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:59am
- Master Mariner
  
  Yes , I was readind a science piece regarding this as well.
  Regarding the floods in Oz due to excess nuclei in the atmosphere.
  A perfect storm with the La Nina weather patterns.
  Interesting.
  
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  October 26, 2022 12:04pm
Scooter

There’s something about Rishi Sunak that reminds me of ALF, maybe it’s the eyes or ears?

https://images.app.goo.gl/YxY3ZCAZtDqUn32J6
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October 26, 2022 10:04am
ClanMcleod

Well, this is an interesting development.
New York Judge has ordered vax mandates overturned, those who lost their jobs to get them back with back pay. Starting tomorrow!

https://t.me/CoronvirusPlushie/5142

Breaking news so I’m doing a bit of checking, but looking legit.

In NZ……. crickets and continued jabbing adverts for younger and younger people. Madness.
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October 26, 2022 10:22am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Looks like it is legitimate.
  
  https://twitter.com/dchomecoming/status/1584677702568923136?s=20&t=bsc_VIjqn8XYFArEc0OgUg
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:27am
Maggie Pie

Just back from New World.
If inflation really is running at 7.2% ….how come most of their prices have gone up by 30% ?
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October 26, 2022 10:28am
- virtualmark
  
  I’ve long suspected that supermarkets (being a cosy oligopoly) take advantage of inflationary times to gently nudge their profit margins up. “Oh, prices are going up because of inflation …”
  
  I’d like to see the Commerce Commission seriously get into the supermarkets to track their profit margins over a long period of time.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:38am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    So don’t buy stuff from supermarkets except where there are no alternatives. Butchers, fruit and vegetables markets, fish supply shops, poultry outlets, European and Asian specialty food shops, etc etc.
    
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    October 26, 2022 11:03am
    - virtualmark
      
      Supermarkets have economies of scale that those other options don’t have. But I suspect a lot of the value from those economies of scale sticks with the supermarket owner, not the customer (and certainly not with the suppliers).
      
      I’m not against supermarkets. Clearly they provide a valuable service or we wouldn’t all be using them so much. But I do think there’s a lack of competition there that creates higher prices for us customers and higher returns for owners than might be the case in other countries.
      
      (Note: New Zealand markets do tend to be characterised by two dominant players who collectively have 75%-85% of the total revenue pool, then a few smaller fringe players who split the rest, provide the fig-leaf appearance of competition, but in truth are not able to exert commercial pressure on the two dominant players because they lack the economies of scale. Supermarkets is just one example of this.)
      
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      October 26, 2022 2:46pm
      - MCōs
        
        We often buy our vegetables from the Avondale Sunday Market.
        It’s somewhat cheaper than supermarkets because the market gardeners bring their stuff in from Pukekohe and cut out various middle men.
        Also because a lot of Asians shop there there’s ingredients for Asian cooking.
        Interestingly where I live in Mangere Bridge used to be a market garden area, but it’s all housing and cemeteries now except for strawberries.
        
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        October 26, 2022 4:45pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Dont forget Government meddling and the Labour maths of unintended consequences.
    Sure runs strong.
    
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    October 26, 2022 12:07pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Based on the number of downticks I’m surprised there’s so many supermarket owners who comment on Kiwiblog each day.
    
    Otherwise … why would you not want to see more competitive pressure on, and lower prices at, supermarkets?
    
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    October 26, 2022 2:49pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  What specifically has gone up 30% Maggie? And from when did it start going up?
  
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  October 26, 2022 12:32pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Maggie Refudes the premise of the question 🙂
    
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    October 26, 2022 2:08pm
- Its only I
  
  That doesn’t include shrinkflation.
  
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  October 26, 2022 5:46pm
dave_c_

Mmmm.
I wonder what that book Ardern was reading on her aborted trip to Antarctica ?
Perhaps jenning up on Marxist / Communist principles she would love to implement here !
Can anyone shed light on it ? – All I could see was a pic of someone – rather indeciferable.
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October 26, 2022 10:32am
- Ghost
  
  It was about Shackleton
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:35am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Shackleton’s story is genuinely amazing. Recommended reading.
    
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    October 26, 2022 10:42am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Nothing like reading from the original source:
      
      “The Heart of the Antarctic”
      https://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks12/1202361h.html
      
      “South!” is fantastic.
      https://www.coolantarctica.com/Antarctica%20fact%20file/History/south/south_shackleton_preface.php
      
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      October 26, 2022 11:00am
    - mawm
      
      kk – there are many books on “human endurance” that are amazing reads. A lot of them have something to do with the sea. “Survive the Savage Sea” by Douglas Robertson, “Once is Enough” by Miles Smeeton for example. Although Shackleton must rate as one of the best.
      
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      October 26, 2022 7:21pm
    - Observer of Life
      
      #virtuesignalling by Ardern.
      
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      October 27, 2022 8:50am
  - Master Mariner
    
    I wonder if she trying to draw any comparrissons //
    Shackleton was a true leader in any sense.
    
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    October 26, 2022 12:09pm
- kevn
  
  @dave… When you are an known Antarctic history buff (per Herald), one needs to ‘refresh’ and pretend to read in a dimly lit, vibrating flying freight train.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:42am
  - Nickc2
    
    One million revets flying in formation?
    
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    October 26, 2022 11:52am
    - Don Beckett
      
      That was the old Bristol Freighter, but they were a million RIVETS flying in formation. 😆
      
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      October 26, 2022 12:02pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It was Ranulph Fiennes biog of Shackleton
  
  https://www.penguin.co.nz/books/shackleton-9781405938020
  
  Clark Gayford was reading “Hooked: Pirates, Poaching and the Perfect fish” by G. Bruce Knecht.
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:49am
  - cas
    
    They were either borrowed or had been read before. Definitely not new books.
    
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    October 26, 2022 11:51am
  - Paulus
    
    My daughter recently gave me a copy of the Fiennes book on Shackleton.
    An excellent book – should be for Intermediate School’s Library – assuming the the pupils can read by that time.
    
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    October 26, 2022 2:10pm
- Hugh Jarse
  
  As a few options, Fabulous Five go to Dorset, Princess Tina Annual 1973, Nancy Drew Annual, Maui and the giant fish ?
  
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  October 26, 2022 3:29pm
- Its only I
  
  All you can see is the jacket not the guts of the book.
  
  no Rumour has it as, “How to display your sincerity via physical movement”…..for dummies. Written by the Geppetto school of wooden actors.
  
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  October 26, 2022 6:34pm
Maggie Pie

And how long will it be till UBER pulls the plug and fcuks off outta here?
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October 26, 2022 10:35am
- Ghost
  
  That was pathetic, the judge should have thrown it out
  
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  October 26, 2022 10:46am
  - MCōs
    
    I have a friend who deliveries Uber eats, which I expect is part of the same company.
    He told me he makes, as I recall, around 50k pa
    No sick leave, no annual leave, no nothing except commission & it’s a full time job. Why shouldn’t Uber treat him as an employee?
    They can pay whatever they like.
    
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    October 26, 2022 11:39am
    - Ghost
      
      They’ve agreed when signing up with uber, if they wanted to be employees then they dhouldnt of accepted the terms to being a driver
      
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      October 26, 2022 11:44am
      - MCōs
        
        No choice was there.
        The chap has few strings to his bow being Thai with less than flash English.
        He wasn’t complaining. He had steady income, but I knew it was a rip off.
        However
        There was no way he was going to rock the boat.
        About twenty years ago my wife was offered $5/hr to work in a Thai restaurant. She knew these people and they knew all her friends. They’d all get together at each other’s houses so there’s no question of going to the Labour Dept and complaining. She’d wind up with no mates.
        There’d be other people who’d work for that money.
        Every now and then there’s an item in the paper about someone who’s finally hauled before the courts for underpaying staff for years.
        
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        October 26, 2022 1:24pm
      - Ghost
        
        That crap, going by that hopefully this changes things for their drivers here then.
        
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        October 26, 2022 5:15pm
  - Nickc2
    
    I suspect it’s only going to get worse as Michael Wood works overtime to get compulsory unionism through Parliament before he and his like travelers are out on their shiny arses.
    
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    October 26, 2022 11:49am
  - Paulus
    
    The Judgement appears to be only for the Union’s backed four UBER drivers not all UBER drivers as a law change would be required.
    Three of them have left the Company now anyway.
    looks like a Union SNAFU.
    
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    October 26, 2022 2:18pm
CAKE FACE1

The fact that the idiot influencers’ predicament was covered up by the Team of $55 million is disturbing.

It also puts Cindy’s absurd ambulance chasing, after the terrorist attack, including her bizarre collaboration with the vile Iranian mad mullahs, in a new light.

Her virtue signalling of wearing the oppressive habib could come to bite her on her very scrawny posterior.

The wearing of the habib, to virtue signal her “kindness”, actually only showed her lack of education and awareness.

The rest of the world is protesting against the mad mullahs in Iran.

Cindy missed the memo, and ended up celebrating mad mullah oppressiveness.

Poor old Cindy can’t do anything right.

Even worse, what are the Team of $55 million doing in this case?
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October 26, 2022 10:36am
- MCōs
  
  I see those two are out of Iran now. One imagines if NZ had been vociferous in condemning Iran they would not be so lucky.
  The American basketball player who was caught with a microscopic amount of cannabis has been sentenced to 9yrs where normally she might have been released.
  I don’t know why what the two kiwis were doing in Iran, but I used to work with a guy who regularly went over there on business with no problems.
  
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  October 26, 2022 11:54am
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    They are ” influencers” whatever that is. Looks like they were stopped as they were driving an American Vehicle a Jeep!!!
    
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    October 26, 2022 12:49pm
    - Gravelroad
      
      Hope it was an electric one.
      Influencers seem to get their knickers in a knot about emissions. Are there any cows or sheep in Iran?
      
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      October 26, 2022 3:38pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Jaspinda is now buying votes with cash in Wellington?
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/luxon-says-he-supports-organisations-rather-than-giving-money-to-homeless-after-pm-spotted-giving-cash-to-person-in-need/ar-AA13mQGf?
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October 26, 2022 10:50am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Lol, PM “spotted” giving cash to someone in need. It couldn’t have been staged at all.
  
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  October 26, 2022 12:36pm
kevn

@SteveO… Key donated his whole PM salary to charity.
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October 26, 2022 11:16am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  So did Trump.
  Jaspinda is visibly buying votes
  
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  October 26, 2022 11:31am
  - cmm
    
    ” Jaspinda is visibly buying votes”
    Not with her money but with yours.
    
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    October 26, 2022 11:34am
    - MCōs
      
      An infinitesimal amount of her salary comes from my taxes.
      I don’t mind that she gave it to someone who’s fallen on hard times
      What about you? Do you need my money?
      
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      October 26, 2022 12:00pm
      - I remember when
        
        Giving money to people sitting on the footpath is a very poor way of deciding whether they need it.
        
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        October 26, 2022 2:12pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        So $2.75M to a desperately hungry Gang is OK?//
        
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        October 26, 2022 2:59pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @ I remember when.
        Give a man a fish and all that shit.
        Next day he is waiting for his fish.
        
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        October 26, 2022 3:01pm
      - MCōs
        
        I see a couple of guys regularly begging down at the local shops.
        They are clearly suffering from mental problems.
        Nobody sits around all day in one spot staring into space.
        Another guy I happen to know about suffers from low IQ due to FASD and can’t hold down a job. Not his fault he’s in that state of mind, but he’s a likable sort of chap in a slightly annoying way.
        
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        October 26, 2022 5:00pm
      - cmm
        
        Bullshit. She’s not handing out her own money for bribes.
        Did the gang payout come out of her pocket? Nope.
        
        When she said “It’s on me” and did the hand out to universities, it wasn’t really out of her 500k was it? It was out of the taxpayer’s pocket.
        
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        October 26, 2022 5:00pm
    - kevn
      
      @cmm… Relax, it would only have been annoying coins.
      
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      October 26, 2022 12:16pm
kevn

What did it cost David Richwhite, to expedite the release of his ‘social influencers’ global traveler son and partner, from 4 months detainment in Iran?
Donations to ‘a good cause’ ?
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October 26, 2022 11:20am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Steal the win in 2024.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6AzGiuar-4
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October 26, 2022 11:32am
- Frank the tank
  
  Geez – hasn’t aged well has she.
  
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  October 26, 2022 11:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    United Spot is satire
    
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    October 26, 2022 12:55pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Did you see Cindy’s flight to Antartica got delayed. Looks like a clear case of sabotage by the Penguins as they heard they were getting a Fart tax to pay and had to subsidise the indigenous Seals so they could buy electric snow mobiles to off set global warming of Bureaucrats flying in to visit. Don’t worry, the Indigenous seals will get a clean snow mobile rebate and the world will be fixed by the magical waving of the Cindy wand.
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October 26, 2022 11:38am
- cmm
  
  Second go…. taking off right now:
  
  https://www.flightradar24.com/KIW229/2dfa5b68
  
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  October 26, 2022 11:49am
  - alex Masterley
    
    900 + people tracking the flight!
    
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    October 26, 2022 12:02pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Just over 400 now
      
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      October 26, 2022 12:59pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Where the plane goes after Antarctica will be interesting. Australia?
    Next week Parliament is clear, sits again on Nov 8, 9, 10.
    
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    October 26, 2022 1:05pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Perhaps the last pilot was involved with the original ‘Turn Ardern’ campaign 😀
  
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  October 26, 2022 12:06pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    People still do that. My Daughter works in a bookstore.
    
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    October 26, 2022 1:06pm
skyblue

Air float 1 about to take off with Cinders.
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October 26, 2022 11:47am
Ghost

Twenty-one students at a girls’ school in Christchurch have been the victim of a sexual assault that ended in rape or near rape.

This was one of the findings of research carried out at Avonside Girls’ High School and Shirley Boys’ High School after staff and students were “concerned about levels of sexual harassment in their community”.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/130269757/survey-shows-21-students-at-a-christchurch-girls-school-have-been-the-victim-of-rape-or-near-rape
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October 26, 2022 12:05pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Hard to know what to make of such stats as headlines.
  As Milo pointed out, you would think Universities in the US have such a rate of rape that it was worse than in African unconventional wars were rape is used as in instrument of war.
  Stats for sexual assaults look horrible, until you learn that ‘unwanted attention’ counts these days. Kind of like how words are equated to physical violence.
  If you can’t be transgender, and you want attention, then being a victim works for many people too.
  
  And then in Parliament, we have folk who announce what turns out to be a hug as ‘pretty close to rape’ and say as much to the media……and taxpayers pay out when the slandered person reveals the facts.
  Like democracy in NZ, the meaning of ‘near rape’ has changed?.
  
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  October 26, 2022 1:36pm
  - Taieri
    
    And then in Parliament, we have folk who announce what turns out to be a hug as ‘pretty close to rape’ and say as much to the media……and taxpayers pay out when the slandered person reveals the facts
    —————
    
    That’s why they have no time to address such trivial matters as ram raids and hospital waiting times.
    
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    October 26, 2022 2:24pm
Maggie Pie

Sounds to me like ZB’s political reporter Jason Wallz might have a bit of a hard for Cindy.

Just told listeners… “how disappointed he was not to be on the flight to Antarctica after being told there was only room for one journalist”.

Then queried how ClarkE Gayford managed to get a seat when he would have rather been there.

LOL!!
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October 26, 2022 12:48pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Just like with the tours of the island nations previously, the media who are allowed to attend know what they stand to lose if they ask hard questions or gotchas.
  While access is important, they should not be too close to the subject of their stories, yet the threat of not being invited next time is just one of the ways they can be subdued in their role.
  
  I would rather hear from a journalist who was not invited, rather than those that aspire to be the toy dog in Cindy’s handbag.
  
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  October 26, 2022 1:44pm
- kowtow
  
  Who was The One .
  
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  October 26, 2022 3:59pm
CAKE FACE1

The Team of $55 million censoring the story of the arrest of the two idiot influencers by the mad mullahs in Iran is simply outrageous.

Presumably, the cover-up would be justified because it is somehow in the “public good”. Or maybe they say that the arrests shouldn’t be reported, because to do so would jeopardise the safety of these two clowns? Irrespectively, this censorship is simply unacceptable.

The clowns went there, of their own volition. The idea that the news of their arrest should be hidden for four months makes you wonder – what other information is the Team of $55 million hiding from us? For our own good, they would say, of course!

Our media is a disgrace. This is a terrible precedent.

What a country. Things are going from bad to worse, at an extreme rate of knots.
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October 26, 2022 1:05pm
- MCōs
  
  It’s not disgraceful at all.
  Why should the media put their lives at risk for a few clicks?
  Nurse Louisa Akavi was missing, believed captured by ISIS for 5-1/2 yrs before the government put out an appeal to find her against the advice of Red Cross.
  In both cases people worked behind the scenes to facilitate their releases.
  In the case of the two people in Iran the strategy worked.
  This sort of thing happens all the time, I’m sure.
  
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  October 26, 2022 1:40pm
  - Ghost
    
    I believe national and the media did the same with the Red Cross nurse? And rightfully so.
    
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    October 26, 2022 2:19pm
  - kevn
    
    @MCos…. Having Dad, one David Richwhite pulling a few strings would have been pivotal.
    
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    October 26, 2022 2:22pm
    - CAKE FACE1
      
      There is a difference between between being kidnapped by terrorists, to being arrested by a government.
      
      The two idiot influencers were arrested by the Iranian regime. The Iranian mullahs may be mad, but they are the official government of Iran, and as such this event should not be censored.
      
      I see the socialists love the censorship. It was always thus…
      
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      October 26, 2022 2:57pm
      - CAKE FACE1
        
        The point is this.
        
        The media has been very quiet about criticising the mad mullahs in Iran. Huge numbers of women have been arrested or killed for burning the hijab. Did our media collaborate with the mad mullahs to protect these two idiots?
        
        Yes, I think so.
        
        Of course, Cindy has previous on this issue. She wore the hijab for the ambulance chasing episode, after the terrorist attack.
        
        The media were too cowed to call out for her collaboration to oppressive middle eastern regimes on this occasion as well.
        
        Cue a bunch of socialists saying censorship is great again.
        
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        October 26, 2022 3:40pm
      - Ghost
        
        Nz media have been reporting the protests in Iran and the death of Mahsa Amini
        
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        October 26, 2022 3:47pm
    - MCōs
      
      I wouldn’t know about that, kevn. I don’t have your contacts.
      
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      October 26, 2022 5:04pm
      - kevn
        
        @MCos… Reported that the combo of his fathers very deep pockets and Five Eyes (really?).
        Plus a decent donation (IMO) got it happening.
        
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        October 26, 2022 6:08pm
Takere

Arderns trip to the Antarctic is no coincidence.

She’s prepping them for the US Military exercises that are about to commence there.

It’s reported here in the video from pbs, Pentagon.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-pentagon-holds-news-briefing-as-speculation-over-possible-russian-dirty-bomb-continues
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October 26, 2022 1:26pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  No matter if it is Republicans or Democrats, the Pentagon are War Hungry.
  More so when The Democrats are Governing. They are War Hungry. Trump stopped it, and now with sleepy Joe the Pentagon will do this discretely, so as to blame both Russia and Ukraine.
  Who messed with that pipeline? It was not Europe, it was not Russia, it was not any of the Nordic-Scandinavian Countries.
  The Pentagon are Warmongers.
  
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  October 26, 2022 3:55pm
- JJ56
  
  Sorry, what the report refers to is the regular role that the US military play in giving logistic support to the scientific effort in Antarctica. Just as the NZ defence forces do with our effort.
  
  Nothing to do with military exercises.
  
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  October 26, 2022 6:10pm
- Ghost
  
  Operation deep freeze is not military exercises. It is support for their researchers.
  
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  October 26, 2022 6:23pm
Maggie Pie

TWITTER TRENDING……

Rumors that influencers Topher Richwhite and his wife Bridget had stayed with the late Amou Haji while visiting Iran, have not been denied by the couple.

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1585059897686761472
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October 26, 2022 2:05pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Metered water will do that
  
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  October 26, 2022 2:30pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Poor Funeral Director and Mortician.
  Fuck, I can’t unthink that.
  
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  October 26, 2022 3:42pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    So bathing/washing shortens your life. 😆
    
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    October 26, 2022 5:12pm
Taieri

Our lives are going to become even more interesting if this goes ahead:

https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/10/25/the-madness-of-the-15-minute-city/

“(…)The council plans to cut car use and traffic congestion by placing strict rules on car journeys. Under the new proposals, if any of Oxford’s 150,000 residents drives outside of their designated district more than 100 days a year, he or she could be fined £70.(…)”

No doubt that this sort of ideas would fall on a very fertile ground in NZ as well…
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October 26, 2022 2:21pm
NZer In Exile

Labour know their Utopian pipe dreams require big money.

NZ doesn’t have that big money.

Labour have recently slipped in “growing the economy” into their rhetoric. Hahaha. First try not wrecking what we have built up!!!!
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October 26, 2022 2:23pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Ask Robberson. NZ has plenty of OPM. Other People’s Money
  
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  October 26, 2022 3:39pm
Inandout

If this has been mentioned before I apologise.
https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/25/ny-state-supreme-court-city-vaccine-mandate-covid-19-coronavirus/?pnespid=v7U3WHVcNKpHw_bHoDruA42VvwCxWIZyMuGn07ZhqB9m.FXj5Ofz.Xyx9ti2mcZ8ZdlsGOoEOA
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October 26, 2022 2:32pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Coming to a place near us soon. The Tyrant must get a shakeup for the harm she has caused. Lost jobs, loss of income, accommodation, food, the list goes on. All because of control mandates and forcer experimental medication.
  OWN IT JASPINDA!!!
  
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  October 26, 2022 3:38pm
Warren

I will probably get caned by many posters on here for this Statement but I personally think that Chris Bishop has gone about this the wrong way and left the National Party open for heaps of criticism over this in asking New Zealander’s to vote on this .
https://laboursbiggestfail.co.nz/
I personally get outraged when Labour continually slam National with 9 years of neglect and underfunding. It’s childish and the blame game.which I think we as a party are bigger than that so shouldn’t have to lower ourselves to Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister and Finance Minister Grant Robertson standards.
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October 26, 2022 2:44pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I got the email, opened the link.
  The biggest fail is Health was my vote
  
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  October 26, 2022 3:32pm
- CAKE FACE1
  
  In my opinion, Chris Bishop is the worst minister in the National Party, by a long way.
  
  His performance on Covid was simply embarrassing.
  
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  October 26, 2022 4:55pm
- Observer of Life
  
  Warren: I got the email and replied the biggest fail was all politicians buying into the Covid vax crap, including mandates and not one of them talking to the protesters in WLG … look at yourselves National!!!!
  
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  October 27, 2022 9:06am
kevn

@Warren… Yes, should be more ‘what we are planning to do’. But of course the media just grab and twist any policy so perhaps best left for closer to campaigning time.
Bishop could apologise for being such a jab fanatic.
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October 26, 2022 2:57pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Well Labour and Jaspinda. This is how you do it. Secure Election in 2023.

https://redrightvideos.com/dead-dog-receives-voter-registration-form-from-democratic-party-homeowners-response-is-epic/
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October 26, 2022 3:10pm
slightlyrighty

Today in Parliament.

Hon GRANT ROBERTSON ” We’ve increased the number of nurses by nearly 20 percent;”

13/06/2022 — According to the Nursing Council of New Zealand, the number of registered nurses rose from 55,000 in 2017 to 57,833.

This is 5.1%. If this is the math that Robertson is capable of, we’re fooked!
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October 26, 2022 3:19pm
- nathie
  
  Woah, no wonder why Robbo printed so much money …. wonder if he said to Orr “surely an extra zero or two at the end won’t make any difference – just do it man!” then quickly hung up the phone?? 😉
  
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  October 26, 2022 3:52pm
- cmm
  
  Robbo is a lying sack of shit (I think that is the technical term).
  
  The best lies come wrapped in the truth.
  
  Perhaps the actual number has nurses has increased, but that’s only part of the equation. What matters is how effective they are.
  
  The effective number of nurses has DECREASED because:
  * they are now also doing the low level jobs that others were doing (nurse aides making beds etc).
  * huge numbers of senior nurses have left, leaving a far less effective workforce of junior nurses.
  
  In some of the specialised wards, over half the nurses have a lot of experience and provide leadership. When a nurse of 10+ years leaves (and many have in the last year) then the nursing capability is damaged by far more than just losing a nurse.
  
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  October 26, 2022 4:54pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co Governance, Julian Batchelor.
When Maori Elite Are Cry Babies, And Politicians Are Fools (Part 2)
The link to Graham Adams is to his comment on Bassett, Brash and Hide.
Communications by the Maori Party leadership and the Maori elite are
literally marinating is lies, half truths, and historical error.
Everything they say / claim needs to be fact checked.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Maori-Party-Web-site-part-2-loss-of-Te-Reo.pdf
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October 26, 2022 3:30pm
nathie

Stuff headline earlier today: “Kiwi influencers who disappeared in protest-stricken Iran for four months ‘safe and well’ after being detained”.

Eh? I thought NZ had “relatively good” relations with Iran (we’ve had visits by the Iranian Foreign Minister in recent years and dialogue still occurs to this day), if so what a strange way for Iran to treat NZ citizens?

Anyway after some googling found this gem of a documentary, “Shah and Shahbanou of Iran state visit to New Zealand 1974”.

By crikey NZ laid on a stately welcome for the Shah and Shahbanou! Check out some of the well known people and sights of the time!

Admittedly I was young enough not to remember this visit but I still remember school bus visits to the “murder house” (just kidding) on Willis St at approx the 20 min mark!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e72RSnbBx9I
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October 26, 2022 3:42pm
- greybeard
  
  “Jacindah and Jacindahbanou of NZ visit Antarctica”…
  
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  October 26, 2022 4:19pm
kevn

‘Kiri Allen lashing NZ Rugby’…. yawn.
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October 26, 2022 4:05pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Any time now, when Jaspinda gets to the Podium of Truth, we will hear more lies. , post Pandemic.
Creating Jobs: Those jobs are directly related to people returning to the workforce, not newly created jobs.
Fuel prices: Do you remember NZ buying shit petrol from Singapore, I think. Older motors needed a squirt of a ‘booster’. This may happen again, seeing as the left hate cars so much.
Inflation will be blamed on the World. $22 for a 1kg block of cheese when we make the shit here.
Biggest one will be the shambles of the Health System. Oma Rapeti.
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October 26, 2022 4:28pm
cmm

How does a decent society deal with a “character” like William Mosen?

We think ourselves too nice for the death penalty.
We think ourselves too nice to impose the “harm” of preventative detention on a person.

But when we think these quaint thoughts we are deluding ourselves.

There really are people like William Mosen and, as a society, we have to have effective ways to deal with them.

Shutting our eyes does not make the William Mosens of the world go away.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/william-mosen-goes-to-court-of-appeal-to-get-eso-cancelled/2PSF5BDCXSYKI74KXV35LJWWTA/
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October 26, 2022 4:30pm
- nathie
  
  Perhaps he should be under his lawyer’s supervision (Michael Bott)?
  
  Otherwise fully agree with you, society can’t cope with this, and suspect his relationship (marriage) is highly dysfunctional at best if not violent at worst?
  
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  October 26, 2022 4:47pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  And to think they’ll even be allowed to breed 🙁
  
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  October 26, 2022 5:37pm
Yvette

In a statement today, the IPCA said the investigation found no evidence of criminal offending. However, the officer did breach the police Professional Distance Policy by engaging in sexual activity with one of his subordinates.
Pardon?

The IPCA said the officer received “an employment sanction” for the behaviour, without providing further detail.
1News has approached police for comment.
I do hope they kept their distance”
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October 26, 2022 4:39pm
CAKE FACE1

For me, the Covid hoax was the turning point.

In particular, when socialists decided that I was to be locked down under house arrest, and all my freedoms under the Bill of Rights were to be stolen from me for an indeterminate period of time, this was when The CAKE decided that enough was enough.

Mr Farrar advocated hugging a socialist in a recent post, because he thought that their intentions may be good.

Pol Pot argued that he had good intentions. He said that he never intended that one quarter of Cambodia’s population should starve or be murdered under his rule. Nonetheless, this happened.

It doesn’t matter if the socialists intend good things. What matters is what they actually do. Alas, what they do is almost 100% bad.

Every aspect of life is being vandalised by these socialist saboteurs. Education has been burnt to the ground. The health service is no longer fit for purpose. Crime is out of control. The economy is slowly sinking to the abyss. The New Zealand dollar should be renamed the peso.

It’s a train wreck. Cindy is responsible for this state of affairs. I hope she is hounded out of office, and better still out of the country.

New Zealand has enjoyed a great inheritance from out forbears, who strived for our prosperity and freedoms. These socialist vandals are burning this great legacy to the ground, in just a few short years.

Do not collaborate with the clowns. Their path leads to serfdom.

If Labour win the next election, all is lost.
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October 26, 2022 5:26pm
Maggie Pie

“Mum, how did aunty Brenda die?”

https://twitter.com/MrT4000/status/1583586401571905537
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October 26, 2022 5:33pm
CAKE FACE1

One more rant, while I’m on a roll.

I can almost understand the Covid circus. The zero covid nutjobs were irrational, but perhaps during a period of mass hysteria, this temporary insanity could be seen as understandable.

Now the dust has settled. In my view, it is no longer understandable to say that the insane actions taken were reasonable.

Zero covid nutjobs were a dime a dozen at one stage. Where did they all go? China?

If I had argued for such an idiotic position, I would like to think that I would be big enough to now apologise.

I haven’t seen one zero covid nutjob apologise yet. Not one!

The advocates for the period of mass insanity have gone quiet. For sure, this is better than bellowing out idiotic propaganda slogans, as they were for the best part of 2.5 years, but still it isn’t good enough.

Where are the mea cupla’s?
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October 26, 2022 5:52pm
kevn

@Maggie… Great they haven’t got children. Anymore.
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October 26, 2022 5:52pm
Ghost

Huh, reinstate. It never was Aotearoa

Petition to reinstate Aotearoa as official name of New Zealand accepted by select committee

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/petition-to-reinstate-aotearoa-as-official-name-of-new-zealand-accepted-by-select-committee/PZ2V2JZPHVH7DARMCFIVUGQVC4/
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October 26, 2022 6:19pm
kevn

@Ghost… Indeed. Sir George Grey would be impressed though, his landmass name choice has stayed around.
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October 26, 2022 6:43pm
Ghost

Awwww, I think we need a song from Elton John
Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word

‘Say sorry’: Act stonewalls unified message against Iran unless Green MP apologises

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/say-sorry-act-stonewalls-unified-message-against-iran-unless-green-mp-apologises/73ZOYBZXI4EQD2JSAJLWH4AQ2E/
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