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peterwn

Came across ‘Newsroom’ item “The mocking of Luxon –
NZ’s literary elite make the PM feel as welcome as the plague” written gleefully by jumped up ex Herald hack Steve Braunias. It seemed that the organisers of the Ockham national book awards invited Chris Luxon with the whole idea of humiliation him. He was figuratively treated to Whakapohane (21 bum salute). To invite a political enemy to a function with the aim of trashing and humiliating him is extreme bad manners. But presumably as far as the left is concerned good manners can go out of the window when a National Minister is involved. I hope Chris Luxon will give the awards a wide berth next year, there are plenty of other organisations and groups that would appreciate his presence if only Chris could find time for them. Braunias also noted that Chris took off immediately after the event, I am not surprised Chris did, he would not want to be harangued by those idiots or risk having a glass of wine splashed in his face. Braunias also criticised Chris for not attending the Prime Ministers Book Awards (inaugurated in Helen Clark’s time) late last December saying it was a snub. He would have said that if say Helen Clark could not attend because of a pressing engagement. I hope Chris passes word down that he is withdrawing his ‘patronage’ of these awards.
https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/05/20/the-mocking-of-luxon/
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May 21, 2024 8:01am
- G152
  
  Remove their funding.
  Shut down the buildings where they are based.
  And report each move so the nutters know they are vulnerable
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:12am
- Souvlaki
  
  Is Braunias turning to the ‘ dark side’ with his objectivity?…the luvies will not be impressed with this traiterous exposé of their ‘ depth’🤣
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:12am
  - alex Masterley
    
    Braunias and objectivity are mutally contradictory.
    
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    May 21, 2024 8:20am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Saw this and loved the reference to “literary elite”.
  
  Whwheninthewhat now? Really?
  
  So far up their own fundament they dont realise how lacking in class they really look.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:13am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  We don’t have a ‘literary elite’, apart from Lynley Dodd of course. We have a bunch of writers producing stuff hardly anyone reads. One of the big reasons is those writers don’t understand human beings, and this is further evidence of that.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:16am
  - imalwaysright
    
    ‘Literary elite’ !
    
    Most of them are barely literate.
    
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    May 21, 2024 8:36am
  - Jake Dee
    
    ‘We don’t have a ‘literary elite”….We have a bunch of writers producing stuff hardly anyone reads.”
    
    Oh good lord Nigel! don’t you realize that is exactly what “Elite” means? if everyone is into it it’s common, therefore not elite.
    That is why J.K. Rowling, Agatha Christine, Stephen King will never be considered literrary elite, they are too popular.
    
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    May 21, 2024 5:31pm
- peterwn
  
  It reminds me of the ritual snubbing of National Education Ministers at the PPTA and NZEI Conferences. I do hope that the Education Minister has a last minute ‘prior engagement’ and sends David Seymour to talk about Charter Schools.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:16am
- Lara
  
  What a disgrace. The left are so rude. The MSM have one goal and that is to bring down the government. They are not journalists as they should be reporting news, not making biased comments. I don’t know why they don’t form a political party – they could call it the Media Pardy!
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:23am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    “No matter what we say, no matter what we do, the pols are not changing.” or something.
    Who said it?
    
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    May 21, 2024 11:39am
- Inandout
  
  peter, you start here with funding.
  https://ccs.creativenz.govt.nz/help/how-the-funding-for-the-scheme-works
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:27am
  - peterwn
    
    Exactly. And these people need to remember The Golden Rule – He who has the gold makes the rules.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:31am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Ah, that would be the Net Taxpayer in the end.
      The Govt has no money except ours.
      
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      May 21, 2024 11:40am
- nathie
  
  Meh, defund the Elitist Arts.
  
  Did you see the Musicians on the news a couple of nights ago? They are joining forces with the Greenies to start protesting against mining (expect further sympathetic media coverage in due course, demonising the Coalition Govt).
  
  Of course no acknowledgement from the Musicians that the likes of Australia is wealthy because of their mineral extraction.
  
  Whereas in NZ we are the poorer cousin with our “best and brightest” heading across the ditch to make a better life.
  
  Meanwhile the “Elitist” Arts and Muso’s get taxpayer funding (Creative NZ etc) and sneer against the Working Classes trying to make a buck and feed their families (those that work in the mining industry and supporting service industries as an example).
  
  Well stuff ’em! Take away their taxpayer largess and make them busk to earn their way to stardom and riches!
  
  Just the like the Musicians of previous generations did.
  
  Ditto the artists and authors – after all NZ’s literary greats of the past had to eg from Katherine Mansfield to Witi Ihimaera and they achieved fame!
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:30am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Aren’t NZ music performers a boring lot.
    So are the so called comedians. The most unfunny bunch of people you would have the misfortune to meet.
    
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    May 21, 2024 10:02am
  - AitchW
    
    Screw the lot of them. We have huge resources of coal on land and gas under the sea. Aussie gets wealthy on their mineral resources while we have ‘Captain’s calls’ to leave the really valuable stuff in the ground.
    Let’s exploit our mineral resources while they’re still valuable!
    
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    May 21, 2024 8:08pm
- Damocles11
  
  As far as I know Braunias is still on the leftist Herald’s payroll, they still publish his very weak and very long running ‘The Secret Diary of…’ c-rap.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:51am
  - cas
    
    No the Herald canned that about a month or so ago. He now writes it for Newsroom on a Friday I think.
    
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    May 21, 2024 11:52am
  - AitchW
    
    Damocles11 my god they’re talentless, boring , and predictable aren’t they? Left good, right bad. The man is a dope!
    
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    May 21, 2024 8:10pm
- Tom Hunter
  
  It’s also a sad reflection on Luxon’s awareness of the Left that he didn’t see this coming. I guess nobody has learned from the treatment meted out to Don Brash two decades ago at some similar “awards” BS.
  
  Oh well, hopefully he’s learned his lesson – and so has every other National MP.
  
  These people are not just your political opponents or even just ideological ones.
  
  They are your enemies; that’s how they regard you and you need to understand that in your bones.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:58am
  - thirteenstars
    
    Then I look forward to many more such events because Luxon and many of his fellows don’t quite seem to have got the message yet.
    
    Frankly, I never considered this method of bringing Luxon to an understanding of the culture war which is to be complicit in his own humiliation.
    
    Get angry; in the right circumstances it’s a virtue.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:28am
- wsk12345
  
  Our media and left wing parties are mere apprentices compared to the way the media and left Polly’s treat the AfD in Germany. A friend there said that her German education involved a lot of “you are to blame for the holocaust” and what democracy is all about etc meant to ensure it never happened again.
  
  Yet here we are
  https://open.substack.com/pub/eugyppius/p/german-interior-minister-places-responsibility?r=z5cij&utm_medium=ios
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:31am
- MCōs
  
  You forgot to mention Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage, Paul Goldsmith who would have been a much better person to speak than the PM and who was in element on this occasion and did hang around afterwards
  Also while Steve Braunias described the PMs speech as dreadful he said it was no worse than the various Labour speakers at previous Ockham awards
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:49am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Very simple – the budget should, but wont because the Nats are cowards, include:
  
  > the removal of all Arts funding – NZOA, NZFC, Creative NZ. Can them
  > the removal of Film subsidies
  > removal of all Arts awards financial input, if any – I would look inside Ministry of Heritage and Culture
  
  When the inevitable hue and cry arises simple say: The funds are need for Education and Health services. We love the Arts but our priority is quality education and health services to ensure we have a population fit and educate enough to appreciate the Arts
  
  Then start going through the NGO’s out there funded by tax payers and weed out all the ones that are just cover for Left wing politics and defund them as well.
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:53am
- Sacha
  
  The Ockham barbarians should beware the assassins smile . . . . . . . . .
  The cast of the New Zealand Literary Scene lives off grants and bequests and Trusts. It’s time that it had a reset of attitude towards those of us who are not in the group, but who either directly or indirectly contribute to their efforts.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:01am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    They might discover that Ockham’s Razor is not just a metaphor.
    
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    May 21, 2024 8:35pm
- rouppe
  
  What most of these people seem to have forgotten is the distinction between their work – literature – and politics.
  
  The government of the day is still funding literary pursuit. Whether that is good spending is another matter.
  
  The audience not liking his politics is one thing, but being rude at a literary event that is only there because of taxpayer funding is quite another.
  
  The biggest problem I have with successive governments is that arts funding never reduces. Here we have funding cuts for a number of ministries, but for some reason arts and cultural events seem exempt from scrutiny over value for taxpayer money.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:18am
  - Quail
    
    It is also hard to understand why the “ possibilly “publicly funded Sky Arts channel (20 is subscription only.
    Double dipping? Certainly entitled!
    Or am I wrong?
    
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    May 21, 2024 11:26am
    - peterwn
      
      What public funding do they directly receive? As far as know it is financially profitable and they would buy their programming on the open market. Admittedly some of the programmes and performances could receive public funding from the governments of the originating nations but very little of this would be from NZ.
      
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      May 21, 2024 11:46am
artemisia

Retail crime, 3 people arrested last weekend in South Auckland had nearly 50 outstanding arrest warrants between them. At least 2 are women. Good work by police. But there’s a but. That’s a lot of outstanding arrest warrants.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/crime/south-auckland-shoplifting-burglary-and-assault-five-people-arrested-over-three-incidents-at-weekend/
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May 21, 2024 8:02am
- cmm
  
  Once you get past two or three outstanding warrants it is more of an indictment on the cops than the character of the offender.
  
  HFT can there be people with 50 arrest warrants brazenly walking around without the cops trying to arrest them?
  
  Are the cops really that overworked?
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:41am
  - imalwaysright
    
    It also begs the question- How many arrest warrants does one get to accumulate before the cops come looking?
    
    I thought it was one.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:00am
  - sirknz
    
    Speeding tickets for 7 over the limit are easier and are less risky for the cops involved.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:13am
    - peterwn
      
      Different staff and vehicles, different budgets is why there are dedicated road safety staff. Anyway a portion of traffic stops will throw up the existence of a warrant and the officer can either arrest on the spot or call for assistance.
      Rest assured if it involves a major crime, public safety issue, escaped prisoner etc the Police will move heaven and earth to track down the offender. Warrants for minor matters such as failure to turn up for court hearing etc have to wait their turn but then such offenders are likely to keep their heads down ie a voluntary limitation of their liberties.
      
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      May 21, 2024 10:13am
      - cmm
        
        “Warrants for minor matters such as failure to turn up for court hearing…”
        
        Thin end of the wedge.
        
        We’re now at the point where shoplifting a trolley full of groceries is “minor offending” and cops are not showing up for assaults.
        
        Unless there is a rabid reversal we’re on a march to a place where most decent people really don’t want to be.
        
        One way to improve things is to enforce all warrants. Immediately. That should improve respect for the law which, in turn, should reduce offending.
        
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        May 21, 2024 11:24am
      - peterwn
        
        CMM – Enforce minor warrants immediately or catch burglars? Take your pick there is not an infinite number of cops.
        
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        May 21, 2024 11:49am
      - Ra Henare
        
        Also, traffic cops/stops are funded by payments from Ministry of Transport to the tune of some tens of millions of dollars $80 mill springs to mind
        
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        May 21, 2024 2:06pm
      - cmm
        
        “or catch burglars”
        
        Good luck getting them worried about burglars.
        
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        May 21, 2024 2:13pm
      - JimBobJoe
        
        “CMM – Enforce minor warrants immediately or catch burglars? Take your pick there is not an infinite number of cops.”
        
        Oh my dear giddy Aunt. Or Catch Burglars!!!!! HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
        
        you have to be kidding. Plod dont turn up for a burg… let alone catch the miscreants until its a special operation in the leafy suburbs cause Trisha and Tarquin and friends have been done over to often…. and complain to their mate who is high up at Police HQ or a Judge who has a chat with the Police Prosecutor.
        
        Sorry Peter – you are a smart bloke, but the Coppers dont take burglary seriously out in the working class burbs…
        
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        May 21, 2024 2:16pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    If the offender is a gorilla with no neck the Cops probably look the other way.
    
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    May 21, 2024 12:42pm
- kowtow
  
  And then also the case of the stolen 50 bars of choc from a supermarket ending up in a dairy .
  Dairy worker on charges of receiving stolen goods.
  
  This crime wave is not as te legacy media would have us believe the starving masses stealing to feed themsleves.
  
  It’s organised crime .
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:00am
  - ISeeRed
    
    Yep. A lot of stuff stolen at my supermarket ends up on FB Marketplace. Still waiting for this government to give retailers and security more powers and support.
    
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    May 21, 2024 6:16pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350283288/men-shortage-theresa-gattungs-6k-year-dating-biz

May I suggest that the shortage of men is entirely due to the probability that the women involved will all look like Theresa Gattung !

$6k per year ! Good grief.

And this article actually leads the front page on Stuff………..
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May 21, 2024 8:04am
- alex Masterley
  
  That was the first thing that occured to me when I read the piece.
  If the options were monastic orders with a vow of poverty and silence or Ms Gatung I think my choice would be clear.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:25am
- cmm
  
  It would take a bit more than $6k to move my needle.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:42am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Hell, who would pay $6,000 for a man?
    
    You could buy a couple of quality dogs or a horse for that price….or a small Hermès bag.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:12am
    - john1234
      
      Good investment if the man’s got solid earning potential and still has low maintenance cost
      
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      May 21, 2024 9:16am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Risky, though.
        Whereas the resale value of a Birkin is a sure thing.
        https://fortune.com/2024/03/27/birkin-hermes-better-investment-than-gold/
        
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        May 21, 2024 9:35am
      - rouppe
        
        And you’ve just reinforced that a man’s “worth” as a potential match is his NAV in the bank.
        
        Which is the worst possible reason for me to dip my toe in that acid bath.
        
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        May 21, 2024 10:26am
    - Flossie
      
      Quite right Maggy. And they take so long to train.
      
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      May 21, 2024 10:09am
    - peterwn
      
      Sensible people dream about Hermès bags, BMW’s etc but do not bother buying them.
      
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      May 21, 2024 10:16am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Now that’s the sort of comment I’d expect from Maggie, not Maggy.
      
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      May 21, 2024 8:38pm
- Scott
  
  greybeard – that’s a bit harsh. I remember Theresa Gattung when she worked for an insurance company many years ago. She was a warm pleasant woman, quite fun, good sense of humour. I say good on here for starting her own business.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:51am
  - Jack5
    
    After that, from 1999 to 2007 Gattung chaired Telecom. She succeeded Rod Deane, and had been his protege.
    
    Gattung was a founding shareholder of My Food Bag Group, and sold shares into the float of the company. Its shares have been selling around 12.8c, after being floated at $1.85 three years ago.
    
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    May 21, 2024 10:17am
    - imalwaysright
      
      I think the cook, Narnia, may have done the same.
      Good payday for themselves, but not too good for the ordinary shareholders who saw their investment tank.
      
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      May 21, 2024 11:15am
  - Philview
    
    Yes, we should stick to discussing the effects of decisions on a political site.
    
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    May 21, 2024 11:26am
  - pdm
    
    Scott I met her when she was with National Mutual – probably late 80’s or early 90’s.
    
    Seemed a nice enough young lady to me.
    
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    May 21, 2024 12:13pm
    - Scott
      
      pdm – exactly right. 😊
      
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      May 21, 2024 3:04pm
- sirknz
  
  The manosphere videos on YouTube will tell you exactly why this business model is doomed to fail.
  
  The simple version is that the ladies who are paying $6k are expecting Hugh Jackman to turn up and instead they’re going to be lucky getting someone closer to Mr Bean walking through the door.
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:18am
  - julesnzuk
    
    100%! Every woman I know is aware of this hence they know to avoid these gimmicky scams like the plague.
    
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    May 22, 2024 1:17am
- stewmar
  
  Greybeard, what a disgusting thing to say about Theresa Gattung.
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:22am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Why? She isnt an attractive women and drove her long term partner out the door a number of years ago….
    
    She also destroyed oodles of share holders capital in her tenure as CEO of Telecom – AAPT, Ferret, not sorting broadband when Cunliffe was pushing hard for it and thereby triggering the Operation Separation legislation that prove a disaster for Telecom (it cost huge amounts of money for little gain)
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:57am
    - greybeard
      
      I see that the article on Stuff has been changed: the original photo of her standing in a pool, beckoning with one hand and showing a leg has now been removed. Must have been deemed too upsetting.
      
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      May 21, 2024 10:27am
    - Flossie
      
      How do you know she “drove her long term partner out the door”? Nobody knows what goes on in a relationship and there’s going to be two sides to the story.
      
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      May 21, 2024 11:07am
      - JimBobJoe
        
        Corporate gossip Flossie, Corporate gossip
        
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        May 21, 2024 2:17pm
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Presumably this means that Ms Gattung is preparing to float her latest sure-fire winner investment opportunity!
  
  Wonder what all the little people who invested in My Food Bag will think of this wonderful business opportunity?
  
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  May 21, 2024 11:06am
- Jake Dee
  
  It’s an interesting piece but probably not for the reasons that Stuff thinks. The lack of self-awareness in these women is amazing. This is a group of high-powered elite women who are looking for men who are higher powered and more elite than themselves but are probably about the same age.
  That is always going to be a very small pool which gets smaller the higher you go up the ladder. As Jordan Peterson aptly put it, males mate across and down the social hierarchy, women mate across and up. The word they are looking for here, which most feminists would rather die than utter, is Hypergamy.
  It’s a term that has been filtering out of the Manosphere over the last few years but was first coined in anthropology and sociology and it’s been the way humans have done business for literally hundreds of thousands of years.
  Name a society where it’s the ambition of the young women to marry a low-class guy? And before you mention it here are several ways you can be high class, rich and powerful is one, famous is another, war hero is another.
  Are there exceptions? Sure, there are, there are always exceptions. Children get born with three legs or no legs all the time, but not enough to disturb the general rules of how to walk.
  “There’s nothing been done like this before,” she said.”
  More self-delusion. Women matchmaking amongst members of their tribe is probably the second oldest female profession, just after the most obvious one.
  
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  May 21, 2024 6:03pm
  - ISeeRed
    
    Yep. Modern women don’t want to “date down”. Honey, human males have had to do that since before we became homo sapiens. You wanted equality? You got it.
    
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    May 21, 2024 6:19pm
  - julesnzuk
    
    100% agree with this, Jake – but I don’t know where you get the idea that “most feminists would rather die than admit it” (whatever “feminist” means these days). Perhaps you’re spending too much time in the manopshere – which as we all know takes a derisive view of women and promotes the idea that we’re all thick/shallow/delusional. I’m a high earning, very emancipated woman and I’m very well aware of the hypergamy phenomenon – and make no bones about following it myself. Most women I know also freely acknowledge it and wouldn’t never be misguided enough to fall for one of these dating scams (which are blatantly never going to work because the sort of men these women are looking for don’t join dating agencies). By far the best chance they have of meeting the bloke they want is “out in the wild”, ie networking events, work, through friends etc.
    
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    May 22, 2024 1:04am
  - Red
    
    Women Marry Up. As Peterson says, Women bring nothing other than their currency. By 30, that is mostly all gone.
    If you look around, it all clicks into place. And of course, with weak Men, the Woman senses that and pulls on the pants. From then on she treats every man around her just like she treats her partner, never listens and does what she wants.
    
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    May 22, 2024 2:34am
- Sir Henry Morgan
  
  Has Theresa Gattung ever made a real success of a business? She obviously has a talent* for climbing over others to stick her snout in the trough, but has she ever delivered for investors?
  
  Also, for how many more years must we hear her annual whine to media about the non-existent ‘gender pay gap’ – actually an earnings gap between the sexes rooted in biology.
  
  * Debatable how exceptional she really is even in this, given the corporate mania for promoting less deserving women over more deserving men will have given her a nice tailwind over her career.
  
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  May 21, 2024 6:48pm
kiwikidsnz

The University degree business model has a few problems. It would be interesting to know if / how NZ is different.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-21/wiley-hindawi-articles-scandal-broader-crisis-trust-universities/103868662
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May 21, 2024 8:04am
- peterwn
  
  Read Bob Jones’ ‘Degrees for Everyone’ to get a better understanding of the issues.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:19am
  - Positan
    
    Then try and uncover how Grant Robertson’s “thesis” was accepted as a thesis.
    
    The only possible conclusion: The Left look after their incompetent selves – and the fortunes of other inepts.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:38am
- Tomtoddy
  
  I expect the situation here is worse as its overlain with all the politically correct stuff about Māori, colonialism, gender etc.
  
  Once truth and personal integrity were derated the nation began an irretrievable slide into chaos. We know longer know what is factual and truthful and we have no way of distinguishing between what is right and what is wrong.
  
  Worse still is that few care. What was once a bit of harmless bullshitting down at the pub is now misinformation and deliberate lying at the highest levels and in all disciplines. It is difficult to see how we can ever return from this dangerous state.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:26am
  - cmm
    
    ” It is difficult to see how we can ever return from this dangerous state.”
    
    No, it is easy to see how, but it is not a pleasant process.
    
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    May 21, 2024 8:43am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Employers are not behaving rationally either. When I was at high school back in the 1980s, IBM wanted to hire me from the age of 16. I finished school and University and just worked for them in the holidays, but it was tempting to not bother. Now employers wait until graduates come to them. They have to pay more and the degree adds makes very little difference to the value someone produces in the workplace. If employers went back to recruiting for white collar jobs directly from high school, the whole University system would get a real shock.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:59am
  - cmm
    
    It’s self perpetuating.
    
    When you had the experience you are talking about, many of the managers (both blue and white collar) had never been to university. They looked at the people in front of them as they look at themselves and can see who they think will be good hires.
    
    Back in the 1980s it was common for many programmers to be filing clerks who were put through a 3 to 6 month COBOL course and had never been anywhere near a university.
    
    All the white collar managers today will have been through university. They see value and importance in a degree (above what true value there is), so they expect their employees to have degrees too.
    
    They are unlikely to go back to hiring directly from school (except for office junior jobs) because their egos are invested in the degree system.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:12am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Exactly.
      There are many extremely capable people who don’t have degrees and are excluded from jobs they would be very good at.
      
      The London Met police hired a lot of recruits with degrees and many failed at the job. They didn’t have the type of interpersonal skills to relate to yoofs that the recruits from the rough neighborhoods had.
      
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      May 21, 2024 10:11am
    - Ra Henare
      
      1972 Transferred from Aircrew, COBOL course then programming at Ministry of Defense. After 3 years Computer(IT) Manager NZ and overseas.
      
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      May 21, 2024 2:18pm
      - julesnzuk
        
        Defence. Have we not imported enough American crap?
        
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        May 22, 2024 1:14am
  - artemisia
    
    Also went to work straight from school, think the only one in my 7th form year not to go to uni (smart but poor). Educated myself, including how to make money. Which I did.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:12am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Why would NZ be any different?
  
  It’s not as if our Universities are shining examples of independent thought, free speech or diversity of opinion.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:49pm
BarryB

Ive decided that its time to make a prediction.
It is ‘That things are going to get a lot, lot worse’

1. The state of societies all around the world have degraded to such an extent that the easiest way to describe them is that they are totally screwed.
There are not enough negative adjectives to describe the various idiot factions. When we see such things as ‘Gays for Palestine’ one wonders about the mental capacity of people.

2. Governments seem to be incapable of doing anything useful – both central and local. Governments in all western countries have given up on leadership.

3.The war in Ukraine has shown up a lot of weaknesses. The US and Europe have arsenals that are pretty much empty. Military development has been such that this war is pretty much a replay of WW1. The Ukraine fighting force has an average age of 43 – that means that they will soon be conscripting 60 year olds.

4. The Chinese navy is now bigger than the US navy – and growing while the US navy is shrinking. The recent Red sea action showed up the limits
of so called smart ships. The US army cannot fill its annual requirement of manpower.

4. The action in Israel has highlighted the problem. In several sectors of the munition requirements of Israel and Ukraine the fact is that there are not enough munitions available.

5. The trigger will be something like NATO troops entering the Ukraine to shore up the Ukraine forces, or one of Israel or Iran deciding that now is the time to act or something as relatively minor as a helicopter crash in eastern Iran………
NATO troops in Ukraine will lead to Russia using battlefield (ie: small) nuclear weapons and the Iran/Israel conflict will be about nuclear weapons. If either of these two get going then China might decide that its time to ‘welcome’ Taiwan back into the fold while the US etc are otherwise occupied and/or N.Korea might be crazy enough
to feel that now is the opportunity to lash out at their great enemy – the US.
It wont take much to set things off and the way things are at the moment its more likely to happen than not.

But then again there is that famous saying “The act of prediction is very difficult, especially when it concerns the future”
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May 21, 2024 8:10am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  None of that stuff is important.
  We’re all going to die from global boiling and sea level rise.
  Experts say.
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:36am
- Jack5
  
  BarryB’s …the Chinese navy is now bigger than the US navy…
  
  But the Chinese strength is mainly in small vessels from frigates to corvettes to patrol boats.
  
  America has 11 aircraft carriers to China’s two; nine helicopter carriers to China’s three; 64 submarines to China’s 61; 75 destroyers to China’s 49.
  
  More or less alongside the US are Taiwan’s 22 frigates and 43 patrol boats.
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:39am
  - Master Mariner
    
    The real difference though is one is trying to secure maritime supply chains and the other is unwittingly destroying them.
    
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    May 21, 2024 10:07am
  - Cantabrian
    
    But often overlooked in the debate is the parallel with the Royal Navy in the 19th and early 20th century. At the time the RN had commitments right across the globe. And during both wars it had to contend with much more than just the ‘localised’ threat from Germany and Italy.
    The USN is in a somewhat similar situation today – it has commitments in several parts of the world, like the Gulf, the Med, the North Atlantic, as well as south east Asia. China on the other hand can concentrate its forces within the ‘9 dash line’. So comparing the size of the two fleets is’t necessarily valid.
    
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    May 21, 2024 10:28am
    - Phronesis
      
      In the event of a conflict China could replace its entire fleet in 5-10 years. There simply isn’t the shipbuilding capacity in the US to replace their fleet.
      
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      May 21, 2024 11:17am
      - Quail
        
        Some old history.
        Britain needed 70 cruisers to maintain its world influence according to their is Lord of the Amiralty Bobby Fisher prior to 1939. They never got there before and definitely not since!
        
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        May 21, 2024 11:47am
      - Jack5
        
        In World War 2, the United States built more than 120 escort aircraft carriers plus 29 big fleet carriers. Escort carriers were designed to carry 25 to 30 combat planes (perhaps more if they were delivering them to fleet carriers). They were part of the American World War 2 programme that produced 6,000 ships – mostly “Liberty” cargo ships.
        
        The de-industrialisation of America and the West surely means that any war now between China and the United States and its allies will have to be a short one. That surely means atomic weapons.
        
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        May 21, 2024 1:36pm
      - Phronesis
        
        Indeed Jack5. The West has painted itself into a corner where it is we that can’t win a conventional war. But would we be willing to use nukes first? Unlikely.
        
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        May 21, 2024 2:23pm
      - cmm
        
        jack5: Yes, that was then – this is now.
        
        Most of USA’s manufacturing is outsourced overseas – be that iphones in China or cars and electronics in Mexico.
        
        When it comes to military manufacturing, USA can no longer even make the basic fodder of the battlefield – 155mm artillery shells – in sufficient quantities to address even a 10th of their current needs and less than 3% of their needs in a “hot” war.
        
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        May 21, 2024 2:26pm
  - CJames
    
    Aren’t the Chinese navy plagued by poor construction of their vessels? Big cracks in their aircraft carrier and sinking submarines.
    
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    May 21, 2024 12:29pm
- Inandout
  
  BB, it defies belief that this country’s government is deliberately causing chaos.
  https://www.dw.com/en/ireland-tensions-over-refugee-crisis-and-dublin-tent-cities/a-69122611
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:20am
- Grunter
  
  BarryB
  IMO – I tend to agree with all your predictions above
  
  The art of prediction is always difficult, sometimes taking the counterfactual arguments gives clarity…
  
  Counterfactuals to your arguments:
  1. All the various ‘idiot factions’ around the world will suddenly grow up, take responsibility for their lives and start thinking logically.
  
  2. Central and Local Govts will suddenly be run by true leaders who will act fiscally responsible, stop printing money, reduce spending and reduce taxes.
  
  3. The war in Ukraine will be settled either peacefully as Putin agrees that he has made a mistake, or, the West will suddenly manufacture enough ammo, drones and missiles to blow away the Ruskies (and Putin won’t then respond with Nukes).
  
  4. The Gaza war – ditto…. peace? (yeah right)
  
  5. China will announce that their ‘One China’ policy has now ended and that Taiwan is a free and independent nation…
  
  Yip – I think thing’s a pretty pharked up!
  
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  May 21, 2024 11:59am
- Jake Dee
  
  Disagree with the nuke stuff (not enough NATO forces would or could be deployed to make it worthwhile for Russia)
  And the Taiwan stuff, (Beijing can wait long enough to pull and not push Taipei away from Washington) but pretty much agree with the rest
  
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  May 21, 2024 6:09pm
Ehlana

TV3 this morning reports the ICC is considering arrest warrants for 2 Israeli and 1 Palestinian leader. But only shows the prosecutor talking about the Israelis.

Yet the actual statement of the prosecutor begins by talking about 3 Palestinian leaders, then goes on to talk about 2 Israeli leaders.

Surely Journalism 101 should be to report 3 Palestinian and 2 Israeli leaders, not 1 & 2, and to show the prosecutor talking about both?

https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-icc-prosecutor-karim-aa-khan-kc-applications-arrest-warrants-situation-state
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May 21, 2024 8:11am
- sirknz
  
  My take is the prosecutor is just trying to make a name for themselves.
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:26am
hmmokrightitis

Never ever promise something that you know you will not deliver, and end up looking like a complete fucktard when you don’t.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2024/05/former-shortland-street-star-begins-hunger-strike-over-israel-gaza-war.html

I may insist he follows through -or is that a micro aggression?
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May 21, 2024 8:12am
- wsk12345
  
  Wow he has a massively over inflated ego. Who cares if he starves to death by choice, that is up to him. Plenty of people eat or drink themselves to death but for some reason he is special?????
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:45am
  - Damocles11
    
    But, but, but….he is a ‘star’. 😂
    
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    May 21, 2024 11:15am
- Ehlana
  
  He apparently objects to NZ support for US & UK lead strikes on military facilities of Houthi rebels in Yemen who are attacking Red Sea shipping.
  
  The sort of international shipping, often crewed by Malaysians or Indonesians (and probably registered in Panama), which ensures that, for example, medical equipment we don’t make in NZ gets delivered to us.
  
  The kind of medical equipment he might need if he keeps us his hunger strike for long enough.
  
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  May 21, 2024 11:48am
- Ghost
  
  His imbd profile shows he was on shorty for just over a month, so a not a star. Looks like a washed up actor who failed to get anywhere
  
  https://m.imdb.com/name/nm7018517/#knownFor
  
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  May 21, 2024 12:29pm
- JackRabbit
  
  Zero Calories, or very close to:
  Cucumber, Cabbage, Spinach, Cauliflower, Strawberries, Celery, Kale
  
  And of Course Diet Coke.
  
  He is not committed.
  
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  May 21, 2024 1:16pm
  - Beach Haven expat
    
    Reminds me of the husband of the UK woman held in Iran for years who held a hunger strike outside the Iranian embassy.
    That lasted until about Thursday lunchtime.
    I’d certainly not wish the world of entertainment to lose such a glittering star but you either go full Bobby Sands or it is virtue signalling.
    A hunger strike is not a strike until you’re hungry.
    
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    May 21, 2024 5:20pm
- Beach Haven expat
  
  Does this bloke think Shortland Street is a real hospital and the programme a reality show so that he’ll be wheeled in to ED in front of the cameras to give both his SJW credentials and acting career a publicity boost?
  
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  May 21, 2024 5:15pm
Matt Long

It’s called the Diversity Dividend, ultra woke corporations scammed by their chief DEI Officer.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/former-facebook-nike-dei-manager-sentenced-to-5-years-prison-for-fraud-scheme
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May 21, 2024 8:18am
- Matt Long
  
  Speaking of woke, World Vision’s 40 Hour Famine this year has ditched boring old projects like poverty stricken kids for the new critical Climate Justice.
  Big kudos for moving with the times, but don’t bother asking me for sponsorship.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:21am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    WTF is ‘climate justice’ sounds like a construct to me….has the climate been a victim of crime and has the perp been found guitly and has a judge passed a sentence (will it have a cultural discount?)
    
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    May 21, 2024 8:50am
    - JackRabbit
      
      “Climate Justice”, is all part of the “Social Justice” bandwagon, that Ardern and Co hitched to.
      
      “Social Justice” is the bandwagon Hitler rose to power on.
      
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      May 21, 2024 1:18pm
  - Beach Haven expat
    
    This explains a lot. Has the Shortland St star on hunger strike got confused and thinks the 40 hour famine is for Gaza this year so has signed up too early?
    
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    May 21, 2024 5:22pm
artemisia

The KO Board members, on the face of it, look like a decent experience mix of governance and housing.

According to the KO website – “The Board has wide-ranging responsibilities, including setting the organisation’s strategic direction and annual performance expectations (in conjunction with the Minister), managing risk and ensuring compliance, and maintaining appropriate relationships with key stakeholders.”

So with all that experience and expertise, how come the Board oversaw such a mess. No doubt there were instructions from Labour Housing Ministers – Phil Twyford, Megan Woods, Kris Faafoi. (Light dawns.)

But the big question about the Board remains. The financial mismanagement bombshell detailed in the English report – how did that happen under their watch?
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May 21, 2024 8:21am
- plc
  
  John Duncan is a very astute guy.
  
  He headed up Southpac (and then National Bank’s) Wholesale Banking activities in the 80s/90s.
  
  I can only believe that they were hamstrung by Ministers’ “Letters of Expectations”.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:28am
  - artemisia
    
    Maybe the Board members told Ministers – if you don’t like our principles, well we have others.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:36am
- artemisia
  
  The Kainga Ora report is available on the Beehive website. The case study for the Elm Street Avondale development, now paused, is worth a look.
  
  Carbon Neutral ideology added $55k cost per unit. And that was by no means the end of the financial non-viability of nightmare on Elm Street.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:28am
  - Flossie
    
    That sort of things like carbon neutrality and double glazing etc etc is what makes homes so much more expensive compared to annual income these days. Forty years ago so much of this stuff was up to the wanna be home owner to decide the value of, and ergo homes were relatively cheaper to build. Those of us who bought houses in the sixties and seventies would know there was maybe an open fire but otherwise no heating, no exhaust fans anywhere and probably no insulation.
    I’m not suggesting for a moment we go back to those days but people comparing how many years’ annual salary are now needed to buy a home should compare apples with apples.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:16am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      “That sort of things like carbon neutrality and double glazing etc etc is what makes homes so much more expensive compared to annual income these days” ”
      
      No the primary driver has been the price of residential land.
      
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      May 21, 2024 9:33am
      - JimBobJoe
        
        Correct Ben – Auckland urban/rural boundary has escalated land values in Auckland region massively.
        
        That applies cost pressure outside the region as well indirectly and other territorial authorities also limit land supply via zoning codes
        
        Look at how cheaply housing could be built post CHC earthqauke when new residences where built on land outside the CCC zone (Christchurch City Councill, though Christchurch Communist Commune might describe the Council’s mindset better)
        
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        May 21, 2024 10:05am
      - Taieri
        
        No the primary driver has been the price of residential land.
        ————
        
        Which keeps increasing because of an uncontrolled increase in population. Supply vs demand…
        
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        May 21, 2024 10:08am
      - Flossie
        
        You’re not wrong BY – I should have said it adds to the extra costs.
        
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        May 21, 2024 10:13am
      - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
        
        Indeed. Councils because of their addiction to “planning” have deliberately induced scarcity. How’s that working out?
        
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        May 21, 2024 11:12am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        The increase in the population is not the problem. We have a crashing birth rate and we are losing citizens.
        
        We have a tiny population and plenty of land. Houses are expensive in New Zealand because of idiotic policies.
        
        There are cities in the USA with high population growth and affordable housing. Hell even housing in Germany is affordable in most cities.
        
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        May 21, 2024 1:50pm
    - Paulus
      
      Surely it is the knowledge of those building houses that irrespective of anything, it is the fact that automatically, irrespective of costs, it is the Taxpayer who is paying – so on you go !
      
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      May 21, 2024 1:43pm
- Paulus
  
  In the outskirts of Tauranga KO bought a huge areas of land for subdivision, and in doing so substantially outbid all the local developers.
  Just shows what wankers they are on taxpayers money !
  I expect this land will be onsold now locally.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:37am
  - artemisia
    
    There is another elephant in the social housing room. Why has the social housing waiting list skyrocketed – more than quadrupled – since 2017. What changed? And are the changes made still relevant?
    
    It is obvious what changed.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:30am
  - imalwaysright
    
    They were also buying at public auctions , outbidding first home buyers and raising prices artificially with their publically funded blank cheques .
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:40am
    - artemisia
      
      Someone panicked when social housing demand went through the roof . Labour Ministers – looking at you. Did you look at the root cause. (Yep still looking at you.)
      
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      May 21, 2024 9:53am
    - Damocles11
      
      So another nail in the coffin of the Property Ponzi Scheme then, KO and their previously unlimited billions now sidelined. I can hear the real estate agents weeping already.
      
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      May 21, 2024 11:17am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I’ll read the report when I get time this week.
  
  A big problem was that the previous government signalled to the board that it would have endless access to debt. In turn that debt was serviced by the government because the government pays 80 percent or so of the rents. The government also gave instructions that all new houses were to be of high standard. KO also needed to meet climate change objectives and to partner with iwi. And on and on.
  
  See the problem?
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:04am
  - Spring Bank Westie
    
    No rush, Benedict.
    
    Political intellectual Katie Bradford mentioned on OneNewsyesterday that she had read it .
    
    Her only take away was, the next next meeting of the review committee will be in July.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:14am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    Yes. This is not something that can be fixed with better management. When providing high quality housing at far below cost to a very large number of eligible people, the numbers will never add up. Simon Moutter is a smart guy, but I think he should have been smarter than to risk his reputation trying to get Housing NZ to a state that will be regarded as a success.
    
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    May 21, 2024 10:57am
Anthony Melchett

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/crime/mongrel-mob-murder-quayde-hulbert-and-billy-rielly-get-extra-time-for-killing-nark-eli-johnson/

Yay, a judge finally imposes a decent sentence.

This should be the minimum for murder, not an outlier. Short of providing a couple of bullets, im more than happy for my taxes to be spent housing these guys for 17 years.

But alas, turn the page and yet another rapist goes basically unpunished.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/crime/albert-park-rapist-s-identity-revealed-as-peter-kosetatino-five-months-after-auckland-sentencing/

Kosetatino was sentenced in Auckland District Court by Judge Claire Ryan in December to two years, two months and one week in prison for what the judge described as “despicable and disgusting” behaviour.

2 years for ruining someone’s life. What an absolute disgrace you are Claire Ryan.

Judge Ryan had begun with a starting point of nine years imprisonment for the rape before uplifting the sentence to 11 years and one month to account for the robberies that Kosetatino also pleaded guilty to. She then applied 77 per cent in discounts – the highest she has ever considered, she noted – for a range of discounts including his guilty pleas, his youth, the fact he had no prior convictions and his “exemplary” efforts at rehabilitation in the months leading up to the hearing.

This judge would be better off working at Briscoes.

It’s being appealed but he is due for a parole hearing next month and will probably get let out because reasons.

She had the chance to make a reasonable punishment here and chose not to. Why?

Here is another judge Ryan classic. She really hates woman doesnt she:

The 19-year-old was arrested after multiple women made rape and sexual assault complaints in 2020.

“The teenager pled guilty to charges of rape, unlawful sexual connection with a child, indecent assault and sexual conduct with a child. The charges related to offending between 2017 and 2020 when he was 14 to 17 years old.”

Nasty boy. Judge Ryan sentenced him to 12 months of home detention. Discounted from 7.5 years jail. If she isn’t going to jail rapists can we put her in jail?

I think straightforward rape cases like these should be treated like murder. Many of the victims wish they had been murdered and never recover. 8 months in prison is hardly a deterrent.
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May 21, 2024 8:21am
- julesnzuk
  
  What on earth is it with NZ and piss weak sentencing? People complain about the UK but at least the UK isn’t reticent about banging people up, and for a decent length of time too.
  
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  May 22, 2024 1:19am
- Red
  
  Interesting headline, a ‘Nark’ is from the Crims side, an ‘Informant’ would be on the the Media side, or it used to be. Are the Media now totally compromised?
  
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  May 22, 2024 3:04am
slightlyrighty

https://www.thejc.com/news/world/french-tv-channel-mistakenly-reports-mossad-agent-eli-copter-behind-iran-president-crash-un4r2sch

A joke on Twitter which is being reported as fact has got Palestinians even angrier!
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May 21, 2024 8:31am
Matt Long

Still I’m more upset about him banning effective cold medication than any trading hanky panky he may have gotten up to. https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/05/20/sir-john-key-named-in-us-insider-trading-case/
Kudos to Luxon for reversing the ban.
https://x.com/chrisluxonmp/status/1792391061786222896
And to the lying medical “experts” who stated there was an effective alternative in phenylephrine, i just can’t understand why many people don’t trust you.
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May 21, 2024 8:32am
- pdm
  
  Matt I think it was David Seymour who drove the reintroduction of pseudoephedrine to Pharmacy shelves.
  
  Luxon went along with it as part of the ACT?National coalition agreement.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:48am
  - Matt Long
    
    Yes, I agree and have previously stated that Seymour deserves credit, there will be numerous other who actually did the heavy lifting , but yesterday Luxon made the announcement and as leader of the government, he deserves credit for their pushing the law change through.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:32am
- Chuck Bird
  
  “Kudos to Luxon for reversing the ban.”
  
  Kudos to Seymour for reversing the ban.
  
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  May 21, 2024 8:51am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Phenylephrine is a scam. It literally does not work at all.
  
  https://www.vox.com/science/2023/9/15/23873766/phenylephrine-fda-sudafed-nyquil-dayquil-pharmacy-ineffective
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:14am
  - Greenheart
    
    But pseudoephedrine does work.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:33am
  - Chris Nisbet
    
    I knew that the first time I used it.
    Bloody chemist told me it was just as effective as the real thing. Total todge.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:39am
    - Matt Long
      
      Did he say “safe and effective.”
      
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      May 21, 2024 11:25am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes it does work. Not so much now. Before it was banned Sudafer capsules contained 5mg of phenylephrine, but before that was reduced sudafed capsules contained 120mg.
    That is when it worked, but the druggie cooks got into it.
    I have always had sinus issues even after 2 surgeries. (air drill into the nose ti mahe the sinus duct to the gland bigger)
    In the days of 120mg it did work. No more holding the face as I walk down stairs – that’s how bad the sinus used to be.
    
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    May 21, 2024 12:54pm
    - wsk12345
      
      A hot wheat pack helps. Doesn’t help you see but helps with the inflammation.
      
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      May 21, 2024 6:45pm
- peterwn
  
  John Key does not seem to be too bothered by the ‘insider trading’ claim. He said he strictly complied with the company’s insider trading policy when he sold his shares. Such policies forbid directors and officers buying and selling shares except for a limited period after reports/announcements to the market. Would be just an opportunistic lawyer trying to make some money out of a far fetched situation. Lawyer asking for a jury trial, again typical in initial sparring in such cases.
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:20am
  - Matt Long
    
    I hope they never try that kind of thing with Trump.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:33am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Exactly Peter.
    
    If you look at
    
    1/ Key was not remunerated as a director Except by shares
    2/ the small quantities he sold compared to his total holdings in the company
    
    Then, you can easily see he was simply generating cash by small sales not dumping stock as he knew the company was tanking or about to miss sales targets
    
    If the trades occurred in allowed trading periods then this is a big nothing.
    
    Still great opportunity for bearded left wing gits to scream ‘Keys is a Cheater’ on twitter (used Keys cause leftie morons dont know his real name)
    
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    May 21, 2024 10:11am
  - MCōs
    
    “John Key does not seem to be too bothered by the ‘insider trading’ claim.”
    
    He may or may not have reason to be concerned, but there will be plenty of people around who have already decided he is guilty
    Just the same as there’s plenty of people around who have already decided Doc Bloomfield, all sorts of other doctors, Jacinda Ardern, Winston Peters and everyone else who were in favour of covid vaccine mandates at one time are guilty of murder . . . . .
    
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    May 21, 2024 10:16am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      More manslaughter than murder for pushing for no good reason vaccine mandates on a population not at risk of COVID infection causing serous illness.
      
      Never forget Medsafe DECLINED to approve Pfizer mRNA as they believed it had insufficient safety data from trials for Medsafe to feel comfortable approve the Pfizer product.
      
      The politicians and Bloomfield said safe and effective over, over and over again without a real fact base to back that claim up.
      
      The Pfizer treatment was approved by the anonymously staffed MAAC escalation committee, who made an approval decision for who knows what reason, but it suspiciously seems to have been political…
      
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      May 21, 2024 2:22pm
      - wsk12345
        
        Bumped into someone the other day who was being pressured – at the time of the mandates- to get the vax. She was pregnant and her and hubby did not want it so to keep the fam inside they phoned Pfizer in the US and asked should she have the vaccine while pregnant. They were told that it was not tested on pregnant women so they couldn’t be sure it was safe. Bit different to what pregnant women were told by our govt.
        
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        May 21, 2024 6:49pm
  - Paulus
    
    Remember it is the USA where all goes for one thing Money, and Judges interpretation of Laws, for a price and fame, and they get changed to suit the price that the Lawyers can get for themselves, say of 40% of the award they get.
    
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    May 21, 2024 1:49pm
imalwaysright

I’m making a movie starring Will Alexander.

Its called
“Hunger Games: Escape from Obscurity”
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May 21, 2024 8:43am
- kowtow
  
  Fron rnz
  
  “I think this is a cause worth dying for. I don’t want to die but I’m in a safe place and I have a lot of support from people and this matters a huge deal to me”.
  
  “They’re much more hungry than I am.”
  
  It can’t be that bad there as they’re literally bringing in pallet loads of evil , settler colonial Coca Cola.
  
  Meanwhile wee Will won’t be on “hunger strike” for long , and how will te legacy media cover him coming off this publicity stunt , which is being conducted in favour of extremist ultra conservative ayatollahs who conduct public hangings by strangulation and beating women to death.
  
  ”said he would not start eating again until the government stopped participating in the bombing in Yemen and withdrew New Zealand troops from the Red Sea.”
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:47am
  - Omni Consumer Products
    
    And nothing of value was lost?
    
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    May 21, 2024 1:00pm
  - Beach Haven expat
    
    Will will end his crash diet when his family/friends/Shortland Street fan club make an emotional appeal that his passing would devastate them too much.
    He can’t inflict such damage on them but he would have starved himself to death. Promise.
    
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    May 21, 2024 5:28pm
- Beach Haven expat
  
  From the breakfast to my tea, my diet will be calorie free.
  He should start chanting that.
  
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  May 21, 2024 5:30pm
Blog-aholic

Looks about the right time for the government to install some forensic accountants into Housing New Zealand to reveal where all the money went, where and to who…….
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May 21, 2024 8:52am
- imalwaysright
  
  I would like to know where the $950,000,000 went that Adern gave to “maori” for their “covid response” when she kicked off the NZ covid scam ?
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:21am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    You don’t mean the $750,000,000 she gave to the mongrel mob?
    
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    May 21, 2024 12:58pm
Damocles11

More incompetence by incompetent public servants, the taxpayers again getting screwed over – it’s almost as if it is deliberately done.

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‘An old RSA site bought for S11 million by the Ministry of Justice two years ago, remains empty with no immediate plans for that to change.

The Ministry was hoping the old RSA building could be used temporarily to host Papakura court staff and operations, however, that option is now off the table after a subsequent investigation into the state of the building revealed that it was not fit for purpose.’
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May 21, 2024 8:54am
- MCōs
  
  What was it initially bought for?
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:18am
  - MCōs
    
    The answer is to relocate the existing court which is in need of extensive restoration
    BTW
    The RSA had vacated the site because they couldn’t afford to stay there
    
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    May 21, 2024 1:05pm
    - MCōs
      
      At the last council valuation the site was worth $9.9mill
      There’s another valuation this year I believe
      
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      May 21, 2024 1:12pm
slightlyrighty

So workers at the Dept of Stats in Auckland on Greys Road are now permitted to work from home because they no longer feel safe entering or leaving the building…

I wonder if the recent Kainga Ora construction of a 279 unit apartment block where 200 of these units are for Kainga Ora tenants, situated right across the road has had some impact there??
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May 21, 2024 8:55am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Greys Avenue (not Road) has always been a bit dodgy, but mainly at night. proximity to Myers Park and a bit out of the way means deros have always been in the vicinity.
  
  Sounds like it has got a lot worse if harassment has started taking place during the middle of the day
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:14am
- Sacha
  
  – and Stats are not going to renew their lease in September according to ZB radio.
  Now I wonder why that could be?
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:26am
  - marcw
    
    Attention Police Minister Mark Mitchell:
    A landlord with a high risk, unlikely to find new tenants situation has a building in central Auckland available from January 2025. Coupled with calls from Auckland CC and Auckland businesses to reopen a Police Station in the downtown precinct, let me introduce you to a once-in-an-electoral cycle perfect opportunity.
    
    – Central location (Greys Ave)✅
    – On the Beat through park and residential areas currently considered high risk✅
    – Economically, a bargain in a buyers market✅
    – 10 minutes to Quay / Fort Street areas on foot✅
    – bus stop and parking buildings adjacent✅
    – heaps of public approval guaranteed✅
    
    Minister, do the right thing.
    
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    May 21, 2024 11:44am
- Sacha
  
  Jeez. I wonder who the remaining 79 tenants will be?
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:28am
- kowtow
  
  Funny innit .
  
  One lot of state bennies ( HNZ residents) upsetting another lot of state bennies ( stats nz employees) .
  
  Meanwhile the productive classes of NZ keep working very hard and in most instances w/o the luxury of working from home (like the civil servants or the never worked but can stay at home HNZ bennies) to pay the huge taxes these groups of bennies suck out of us.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:44am
kowtow

Front page Ferald .

Public servants can “work” from home cos feel unsafe in Central Auckland office ( Stats NZ HQ) .

But no one has actually been the victim of crime , just “anti social behaviour …….. such as intoxication and calling out to staff ”

Oh dear .

The Ardern regime ( and other wokesters ) carries a huge responsibilty for helping to turn our city centres into anti social dumps . But then the public service unions wouldn’t see it that way , would they.
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May 21, 2024 9:10am
Sponge

I am seeing a few articles from various lefties suggesting that Willie Jackson could be the one to lead them back into power. I wonder if he is seeding this to test the waters.

God let it be true!
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May 21, 2024 9:18am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Free Roasts for everyone shouts Wee Willie as he takes the leadership!
  
  (Social media team have panic attack as link to Roast Busters scandal re-emerges)
  
  Willie Jackson is exactly who NZ Labour need as their next Leader – its time for a Maori leader Labour!!
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:16am
- Damocles11
  
  I’m upticking and hearting any on-line comment suggesting Willie Jackson as leader of Labour. Flakey swing voters who idiotically see the radical left ‘Labour Party’ as a viable option will be saying “no, no, no, not Willie”, but I think it is high time Labour put a Maori face to their agenda of racial separatism & ‘delivering for Maori’. The mistake flakey swing voters make is that somehow Labour is a reputable political party representing all New Zealanders. It isn’t. It was born out of the labour (union) movement and is dependent on Maori support: it is the political party of the CTU and Maori separatism. Having the leader as always a ‘whitey’ is a fig leaf over what the Labour Party is really all about.
  
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  May 21, 2024 11:24am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Willie Jackson is a blatant racist. Very dangerous if he becomes leader
  
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  May 21, 2024 1:02pm
  - MCōs
    
    He lives around here and for a ‘blatant racist’ he’s remarkably tolerant of us whiteys whenever I’ve said hello.
    
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    May 21, 2024 1:26pm
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Yeah well, Labour specialises in pleasant people in one to one interactions (Mallard was like this) but complete arsehats when talking about others politically
      
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      May 21, 2024 2:11pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      But of course MCos. Willie would be quiet in public if he wasn’t —— hi how are you lovely to see you – to people ha has never met.
      MCos, he can be a nasty person without him being racist!!
      
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      May 21, 2024 6:05pm
Maggie Pie

X TRENDING

President Raisi finds things not quite as they were cracked up to be…..

https://x.com/ImtiazMadmood/status/1792308488594428361
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May 21, 2024 9:26am
- Blog-aholic
  
  I thought you only got the 72 virgins if you died a martyr.
  Dropping out of the sky and catching fire is hardly a martyrs death….maybe he only got 36?
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:38am
  - cmm
    
    It is not 72 virgins. It is far more chilling than that.
    
    The actual text is, loosely:
    * 2 doe-eyed maidens (aka virgins) who will willingly do your bidding
    * 70 wives and concubines of the vanquished enemy to be raped at your pleasure.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:51am
    - kevn
      
      cmm… I wonder what the female martyrs get?
      
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      May 21, 2024 10:11am
      - cmm
        
        Remember women are chattels.
        A woman can’t be a hero any more than a goat.
        
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        May 21, 2024 10:25am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        One husband.
        
        https://islamqa.info/en/answers/11419/the-female-martyr-and-the-male-martyrs-reward-of-seventy-two-hoor-al-iyn
        
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        May 21, 2024 10:54am
      - MCōs
        
        There’s plenty of Christian religion which see women as chattels, too.
        
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        May 21, 2024 12:13pm
      - MCōs
        
        My sister is a nun and her order has to get approval from a man for anything of subsequence
        In the Catholic Church all the power is held by men and they ain’t going to change that. The anglicans may be scoundrels, but at least they have female priests and bishops
        
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        May 21, 2024 1:34pm
      - cmm
        
        Maggy “One husband.”
        You mean the guidance and protection of a husband.
        
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        May 21, 2024 2:29pm
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        A talk, dark (or fair if that’s your preference, apparently middle Easterners like red heads), handsome multimillionaire?
        
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        May 22, 2024 1:27am
    - Ra Henare
      
      CMM how loose do you want to be to generate such mis information.
      The Koran does not mention 72 virgins or any such.
      
      72 Virgins myth
      
      The basis of this particular reward, with the number 72, is a hadith narrated in the Sunan of Imam Tirmidhi, in which the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have said:
      
      “The martyr has six unique traits: he is forgiven immediately; he sees his seat in Paradise and he is saved from the punishment of the grave; he is granted safety from the great terror [of the Day of Judgment]; a crown of honor is placed upon his head, a ruby of which is better than this life and all it contains; he is married to 72 maidens of Paradise; and he is allowed to intercede for 70 relatives
      
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      May 21, 2024 2:57pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    If its accidental death you get “72 year old virgins, subject to availability”
    Its in the koran appendix.
    
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    May 21, 2024 9:51am
  - NothingLeft
    
    A common misconception. Its actually 72 raisins
    
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    May 21, 2024 11:12am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    72, and they are all blokes.
    
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    May 21, 2024 1:03pm
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
It’s good that Luxon has finally stood down David Macleod, but it does speak to a wider, endemic corruption within the National Party.
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May 21, 2024 9:59am
- Libertarians are right
  
  No it doesn’t.
  The guy misreported and fixed it when he found out.
  There was nothing dodgy going on – he just didn’t file the right forms.
  AND he was punished for his mistake.
  
  There is ZERO evidence of a “wider, endemic corruption within the National Party” – your assumption is just bigoted wishful thinking.
  
  In fact, National found the issue last week while reviewing all the returns. The issue was fixed and he was stood down within a week. That’s pretty impressive really – no hiding, no time consuming “reviews”, no excuses, no blaming others. Imagine a political party holding its MPs accountable? It’s almost like the adults are in charge now.
  
  Do Labour and the Greens review their returns to ensure there’s no issues?
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:39am
- imalwaysright
  
  “…but it does speak to a wider, endemic corruption within the National Party.”
  
  What do you mean?
  Do you know of any undiscovered corruption or are you assuming that if there is one case then there must be more?
  Genuine questions.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:44am
- Damocles11
  
  The disingenuous Left know full well what happened in this instance, but trying to destroy a mans life over a mistake, and dark allegations of ‘deep corruption’….it’s all part and parcel of Leftist tactics: lying is just ‘the ends justifying the means’.
  
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  May 21, 2024 11:28am
- plc
  
  Obvious troll is obvious
  
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  May 21, 2024 12:17pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  If only the Greens leadership could be as decisive as Luxon and take action like he has.
  
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  May 21, 2024 3:20pm
bennerg

“THE BUCK STOPS HERE”
This is a phrase that was popularized by U.S. President Harry S. Truman, who kept a sign with that phrase on his desk in the Oval Office. The phrase refers to the notion that the President has to make the decisions and accept the ultimate responsibility for those decisions.

Reported in media today ..

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/517304/rory-nairn-pharmacist-faulted-for-not-warning-of-myocarditis-risk-from-covid-19-vaccine

“I find that Rory James Nairn, aged 26, died on 17 November 2021 at … Dunedin. The cause of his death was myocarditis, due to vaccination with the Comirnaty TM Pfizer/BioN Tech Covid-19 vaccine,” coroner Sue Johnson said.

Nairn’s partner said she did no blame the pharmacy or pharmacist who administered the vaccine.

But Ashleigh Wilson said there was a profound grief and a lot of anger towards a system that had failed its people.

“The decision brings a small amount of closure, however it is disappointing that no one will be held accountable for such a needless death,” she said.”

What a weird world we live in, where the leaders who promoted this novel, trial gene therapy drug as a “vaccine”, telling us it was “safe and effective, “would stop transmission”, and save our grannies, get the top “gongs”.

They told us lies. They made agreements that withheld the terms of the contract to purchase them. And people have died. Any other drug would have been instantly withdrawn. All for a virus that turned out to have a CFR / IFR (https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid) not much more than regular flu.

All from a government that touted itself as the most open and transparent.

Time for some accountability I say.
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May 21, 2024 10:07am
- Don Beckett
  
  But those of us who did the research when it was first promoted knew this from the get-go.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:48am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It was Ardern who was at fault. She never ever pushed for any testing, just spouted “Safe and Effective” every time there was a camera.
  When it all went pear shaped, she ran away.
  
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  May 21, 2024 1:07pm
- Ghost
  
  Have you ever read the side effects to medication? A couple I’ve taken over the years have listed as a side effect ‘sudden death’
  
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  May 21, 2024 1:13pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Suxamethonium Ghost. I wear a Medic Alert tag.
    Anaphylaxis nearly killed me.
    
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    May 21, 2024 1:15pm
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ponsonby-petrol-station-bashing-off-duty-paramedic-comes-to-rescue-police-fail-to-show/NQH7OC7QLJBKRDIARRC4QECS7A/

While I’m sure this has already been discussed, I’ve just seen it. The video is brutal.

Police couldn’t even be bothered showing up to this violent attack on a person who isn’t even fighting back. The station attendant was a literal punching bag for this man.

Will this violent thug see prison time? If it were 30 years ago, no question. Today? Who knows? Cultural report, colonisation victim, his youth, feigned remorse from his lawyer… defence will ask for 110% discount on sentence. Even better, if he can score the rangatira court he could be let off with a tongue lashing from an elder.

I wonder if media will name the cretin alongside his tribal affiliations?
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May 21, 2024 10:09am
- Blog-aholic
  
  I wonder if media will name the cretin alongside his tribal affiliations?
  
  LOL!
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:17am
- peterwn
  
  He is lucky he did not do it in Singapore.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:21am
- cmm
  
  “Police couldn’t even be bothered showing up.”
  
  In NZ we have a “social contract” that we decent citizens are unarmed because we have handed this function over to the police.
  
  If the police are no longer able, or willing, to hold up their side of the bargain then the “social contract” is broken and it is time for decent people to be allowed to arm themselves.
  
  Asking for firearms is a bit too much of a step up (yet), but decent people should be allowed lower-tier tools such as pepper spray.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:21am
  - peterwn
    
    Police acknowledged they goofed and should have turned up – seems Comms staff accidentally closed the matter.
    
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    May 21, 2024 11:52am
- PeeJay
  
  When you read stories like this and the absolutely pathetic police “statement” then it really does make you wonder if this country is broken beyond repair.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:26am
- Inandout
  
  surf, I heard Luxon on Hosking this morning explaining away why these things still occur. Look it is the old story that the victims aren’t influential people so it continues unabated. In a real world situation the police boss would be asked to please explain and if not satisfactory then he would have his first warning.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:28am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Yet about a dozen police officers can be on site when a rainbow road crossing is threatened with losing its rainbow status.
    
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    May 21, 2024 10:58am
    - kowtow
      
      Prioridies .
      
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      May 21, 2024 12:20pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  The off duty paramedic who came to his aid… Well done to that woman.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:32am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    She did not seem to be scared. Part of her training to not freak out.
    Fight or flight.
    
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    May 21, 2024 1:20pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Still impressive. Guy could have had a knife. She had nothing.
      
      Maybe it is just me but I think that I appreciate and trust paramedics over just about any occupational group.
      
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      May 21, 2024 1:55pm
      - Jake Dee
        
        Paramedics have the highest rated levels of public trust, next I think are nurses.
        Journalists hover around the bottom, alongside real estate agents
        
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        May 21, 2024 9:04pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Mind you, Oct 7 Rape Denying Jew Haters are the lowest of the low with their photos or it didnt happen.
        
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        May 21, 2024 10:13pm
- Scott
  
  To me this cannot be allowed to happen anymore. A man is being bashed and the police don’t turn up. Either we have a situation where the police do turn up or the citizens of NZ are empowered to arm themselves and defend themselves. What’s happening right now is totally unacceptable. The coalition was elected to stop this sort of incident. They must get the police to do better.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:36am
  - Ghost
    
    police are understaffed, already attending another incident. The criminal has left the scene, they have been given his license plate, they should have checked up on him. The only solution is we need more police. We need to keep our police, we need to pay them better. Labour really screwed over the police force, left moral low, cops leaving because they couldn’t do their job, better money overseas. I don’t see a quick fix for this.
    
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    May 21, 2024 10:43am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Na..
      
      It was just because the Chap getting bashed was of Asian descent. Clearly low priority.
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/retail-crime-off-the-rails-six-workers-a-day-physically-sexually-assaulted-on-the-job/ZRYPH6WCYFHWJPOPTPIPDT3EFY/
      
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      May 21, 2024 11:04am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Agree.
        It would be interesting to see the police response priority list.
        
        Number 1 would be rainbow crossings.
        Number 99 would be Indian shopkeepers.
        
        All shopkeepers should arm themselves. If it goes tits up then request a jury trial. There’s a good chance a kiwi jury will still have at least 3 sensible people on it.
        
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        May 21, 2024 11:41am
    - kowtow
      
      The ones we do have spend a huge amount of time on “domestics” as that has been given a very high priority as well as bail checks ( easily fixed by more remand custodial places) .
      
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      May 21, 2024 12:19pm
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        I’m sure a lot of time will be freed up with the new plans for mental health call outs too. But it would be interesting to have a date with the story, it occurred two weeks ago, I think the murder outside the nightclub was 2 weeks ago?
        
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        May 21, 2024 12:24pm
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  Yep, can’t control temper, entitled, angry.
  And no baby or small child handy.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:37am
- David Garrett
  
  surfing: Yes…interesting isn’t it, that even the most minor achievment by some Maori is accompanied by e.g. (Tuhoe-Ngati Porou) after the name, but we never get to learn about the whakapapa of vicious criminals.
  
  My knowledge of te ao Maori is limited, but as far as I am aware, the concept of mana works two ways: you can earn it or lose it…I stand to be corrected by someone with greater knowledge.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:52am
- JimBobJoe
  
  Why is that arseholes face blanked? The victims isn’t!!!
  
  And the chicks face as well – she pulled him away but if you want to catch this guy quick then plaster his face on the interweb ffs!
  
  His tough guy pimp roll walk as well – what a wannabe Yank Gangster idiot
  
  I can see that Indian shopkeeper self protection ready reaction force being geared up now. If the Police wont sort the issue then citizens will
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:58am
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    Because he’s been arrested and before the courts
    
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    May 21, 2024 11:02am
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      That’s not the reason and you know it.
      
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      May 21, 2024 2:36pm
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        Actually it is the reason. It’s done to prevent prejudicing court process
        
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        May 21, 2024 3:21pm
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    He is a good boy you know.
    
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    May 21, 2024 1:18pm
- NothingLeft
  
  If we lack police to respond to crimes of all sorts then we need to lock up crims for longer to protect citizenry and reduce police workload.
  
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  May 21, 2024 11:09am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Why didn’t he fight back? I can see a few things that can be used as weapons.
  Having said that, a person on meth can be extreemly strong and unpredictable.
  
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  May 21, 2024 1:17pm
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    “Why didn’t he fight back?”
    
    With some people the passive approach is better.
    
    But what you might or might not do in a situation is hard to predict. People often say one thing and end up acting entirely differently.
    
    You might like to think of yourself as a fighter, but turn passive when a push comes to a shove – or the other way around.
    
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    May 21, 2024 2:40pm
- Ghost
  
  An interesting side note that wasn’t mentioned in the herald article, the woman who helped was also helped by an off duty police member
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2024/05/brutally-attacked-petrol-station-worker-says-police-didn-t-respond-to-calls-for-assistance.html
  
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  May 21, 2024 3:03pm
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    I thought that she was a paramedic.
    
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    May 21, 2024 3:11pm
    - Bobba Fret
      
      There was the paramedic lady, but also an off duty police member it seems.
      “An off-duty police member, as well as an off-duty paramedic, were at the station and provided immediate assistance to the attendant who had been assaulted.”
      
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      May 21, 2024 3:16pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  I am hoping that soon, one of these scum picks on the wrong person, and the dairy or gas station attendant gives them a real hiding and hurt them real bad.
  I think the public support when the idiotic law decides to try and charge the shop keeper (even though it was self defence) would send a message to police and government.
  
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  May 21, 2024 3:12pm
Maggie Pie

Despite everything else happening in the world yesterday, from the death of President Raisi in a firey plane crash, to the billions wasted by KO….what did 1EWES lead with last nite?
The totally unmerited allegations of insider-trading against JK.
My partner has been across this, and agrees JK’s alleged involvement is sooo minor anyway, it’s laughable.
Of the total amount alleged in the court filings, (which is in excess of US$260 million),
the figure linked to JK for the sale of 2297 PAN shares, is only US$709,175.
Why would you even bother?
As JK himself said… “there is no merit to any of the unproven claims”

https://1news.co.nz/2024/05/20/sir-john-key-named-in-us-insider-trading-case/
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May 21, 2024 10:28am
- David Garrett
  
  My partner has been across this
  
  I have seen this very odd usage a number of times… “across this”…what does that mean exactly? “Knows about”? “Is familar with” perhaps?
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:47am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    It is not a formal use of the preposition “across”. However the phrase “to be across” a topic is listed in Oxford Dictionary of Idioms.
    
    “fully understand the details or complexity of an issue or situation”
    
    Origin: Australian.
    
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    May 21, 2024 11:11am
    - David Garrett
      
      Bene: Origin Australian you say? I always assumed it was yet another Americanism.
      
      As a “new New Zealander” these names won’t be familiar to you, but it is impossible to imagine Philip Sherry, Dougal Stevenson or Bill Toft saying”
      
      “And now we go live to Wikitoria Keenan who is across this story…”
      
      AAARGGGHHH!!!
      
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      May 21, 2024 12:09pm
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        I don’t know toft, must be before my time.
        
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        May 21, 2024 12:18pm
Ghost

I’d be very surprised if the Poseidon was sent to rescue anyone. I would think it is just doing surveillance

New Zealanders trapped amid rioting in New Caledonia have been told to get ready to leave on a New Zealand Defence Force aircraft.

The New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT) have told Newshub no aircraft has left for New Caledonia.

However, flight radar shows a Royal New Zealand Airforce Boeing P-8A Poseidon airborne and heading for the capital, Nouméa.

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- Ghost
  
  Air Force now in route to pick the people up. Newshub are a bunch of morons to think a Poseidon would be used for this
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-caledonia-riots-flight-to-rescue-stranded-kiwis-to-leave-nz-in-an-hour/Z5WR4Y7ZVNGCHOQCZEE6LB4ZTU/
  
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  May 21, 2024 1:53pm
- Paulus
  
  Poseidon has no passenger seats beyond the crew, who are Air Force specialist personnel.
  Whereas the C130 can carry passengers (uncomfortably, however, but better than nothing).
  
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  May 21, 2024 1:57pm
  - cmm
    
    C130 is a wonderful aircraft to fly in. I’ll fly in one any time.
    
    The 757s would carry more, but need a very clean runway etc and a completely secured airfield and approach. C130s on the other hand are more suited to rougher landings and are good at near vertical approaches (as some people here would have experienced on the Angolan border).
    
    If these rioters/freedom fighters have RPGs then that could compromise aircraft, but I doubt they do.
    
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    May 21, 2024 2:49pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      At 16:48 the RNZAF Hercules is about 1 hour out from landing in Noumea.
      
      An Australian Hercules is landing at about the same time.
      
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      May 21, 2024 4:50pm
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  One would hope they will use the 757s or are those just reserved to carry Cindy’s titties?
  
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  May 21, 2024 2:42pm
Inandout

Hardly worth mentioning now I know, but yet another attack on a store keeper.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2024/05/woman-injured-in-violent-robbery-involving-screwdriver-wielding-men-in-papakura-auckland.html
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slightlyrighty

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-mp-david-macleod-stood-down-after-failing-to-declare-19-donations/

Oh please ask Chloe and Marama to comment!!
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May 21, 2024 10:42am
Maggie Pie

*PRIDE MONTH* 1 – 30 JUNE

And this is the sort of sick sh*t deviants will be introducing to our school kids 🙁

Even Elon Musk has tagged it…. “DEMENTED”

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1791578477017084103
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- graham
  
  *PRIDE MONTH* 1 – 30 JUNE
  
  Ah crap, I thought it had already been and gone. Didn’t we go through this nonsense back in April or something?
  
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  May 21, 2024 11:37am
- MCōs
  
  Shouldn’t you still be bathing in the afterglow of Pentecost Sunday instead of worrying about stuff that doesn’t concern you?
  
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  May 21, 2024 6:41pm
imalwaysright

Number 5
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May 21, 2024 11:47am
Benedict Yu

The Kainga Ora review report is here:

https://www.hud.govt.nz/news/government-releases-the-independent-review-of-kainga-ora

I have browsed through it in 20 minutes. I recommend it. It is highly readable. The recommendations would transform the organisation.

To cheer you up. On current settings, debt will more than double to $26 billion by 2026/27. Cash flow will be negative driven by debt servicing costs and rising costs across the business. Without change, KO would need to borrow more just to meet interest costs.

The Review recommends that KO becomes a Crown owned company, with the Government purchasing housing from it in well designed contracts. The wide ranging powers that allow KO to act as an urban developer would be constrained or go.

Some good stats on the needs of tenants. Nearly half have low needs and are comparable to private tenants. So contract out the management of those.

Social investment approach – expensive state houses go to those who most need them. Now it is a lottery – you win the lottery of a house and you get it for life.

There is a bunch of other stuff. You can read for yourself.

Such a pleasure to read this. A report of this quality would have been unthinkable under the last government.

It will be fascinating to see how the Opposition responds. What a legacy to leave. 🙁
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May 21, 2024 11:52am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

Potaka, the Waitangi Tribunal, the Coup, and The National Party’s Loss Of Control (part 2)
There is a lot of money being pais in Treaty Settlements. NZ is going to go bankrupt. Payout will equal 3/4 og the NZ GDP!!!

https://stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/potaka-the-waitangi-tribunal-the-coup-and-the-national-partys-loss-of-control-part-2/

I am sure I posted the Stop Co-governace daily post yesterday’s General Debate, but I can’t find it.
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May 21, 2024 12:16pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The Waitangi Tribunal masu be closed down.
  This will not be reported buy the NZ Media. Thay are also corrupt.
  Julian Batchelor is circumventing the Media, NZ needs to list to what is happening behind our backs. It is a huge racket.
  
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  May 21, 2024 12:23pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The relaying of the Stop Co-Governace that I do every day is not in yesterday’s GD.
  I checked other posts I may have commented on – nothing.
  Do the Moderators know what happened? Or did I just screw up? I do screw up sometimes.
  
  [Mod – I have looked, nothing in spam or trash. Nothing in any of your posts yesterday. So i guess you forgot]
  
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  May 21, 2024 12:39pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Thanks Mod. I must have screwed up.
    I wish I knew what I did. It must have gone somewhere. Maybe I put it on FB lol.
    It is published on FB.
    
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    May 21, 2024 1:24pm
softail 1450

I wouldn’t worry about the “21 bum salute” if I was Chris Luxon as 21 is an insignificant number, drive up past KawaKawa and you’ll see 21,000 of them all sitting on their couches stoned.
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May 21, 2024 12:47pm
cmm

As a man married now for 37 years, I think I am starting to figure out some of the quirks of the female brain, but there are still a few things I don’t understand,

Why did this woman put up with being thumped and fearing for her death again and again, for two years, until eventually being proved right and being killed?

I have never laid a finger on my wife, and never intend to, but I would certainly not get a second chance.

But here we have a woman submitting to violence for 2 years. At some stage you have to wonder whether she actually liked it.

A message to cousin in July that she was worried her boyfriend would kill her.
In August she tells her doctor that the boyfriend is violent to her.
On Boxing Day she’s dead.

Surely a bloke can’t provide drugs that good, or be that good in bed? What’s the attraction?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350268145/woman-thrown-car-after-fearing-her-life-crown-says
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May 21, 2024 3:10pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  There is a whole literature on this. Some women get brain washed into thinking that they deserve it. Or that there will never be anyone better. Or that he really will change this time.
  
  Or he threatens to kill her if she leaves.
  
  Frequently the police will charge a guy for assaulting his wife / girlfriend. Trial comes and the victim refuses to give evidence.
  
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  May 21, 2024 3:38pm
- MCōs
  
  “there are still a few things I don’t understand”
  For a start there’s more than two and a half million women in NZ and a total of around five and a half people in NZ and everyone is different
  Too many people want to do other people’s thinking for them
  There’s a hundred reasons why women don’t leave abusive relationships
  
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  May 21, 2024 5:39pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Have you stopped beating your wife yet, cossie? 😀
    
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    May 21, 2024 6:30pm
- Ghost
  
  My little brother was like this. Didn’t think he was good enough, so he put up with an abusive girlfriend. I tried so hard to shift that attitude and show him he could do far better. Sadly I didn’t know until after he passed that she was also physically abusive, I had thought she was just emotional abusive, which was bad enough,
  
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  May 21, 2024 5:52pm
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    Poor bugger.
    
    Sorry Ghost.
    
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    May 21, 2024 7:16pm
- Red
  
  “Why did this woman put up with being thumped and fearing for her death again and again, for two years…”.
  That was the Woman’s software put in as a child, she was beaten and that became normal.
  
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  May 22, 2024 1:13pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING 🙁

‘Labour Party’s proposal to simplify changing gender
would make transitioning as easy as getting a prescription’

– H. Joyce

https://mol.im/a/13440269
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May 21, 2024 5:06pm
Ghost

Must be time for another Green Party issue

The Green Party has alerted the Electoral Commission to an advertisement placed by MP Darleen Tana after finding it might not have complied with electoral laws.

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May 21, 2024 5:42pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Why don’t they just get RID of the silly cow then we can all get some sleep 😀
  
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  May 21, 2024 6:03pm
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    Maybe they keep her distract the public from their other mp’s…..
    
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    May 21, 2024 6:06pm
greybeard

These New Caledonian riots have been going now for a week ! Why has NZ not sent a navy ship to international waters near New Caledonia with the intention of uplifting New Zealanders who were stranded there ? They could have done this a week ago, even it it wasn’t eventually needed.
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May 21, 2024 6:40pm
- Geri Sjovik
  
  Do we have any navy ships that could go that far and return?
  
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  May 21, 2024 6:56pm
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    Canterbury
    
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    May 21, 2024 7:51pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Biodynamic wankery exposed

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/350285647/blenheim-grapevine-smuggler-fined-15000
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- Swifty
  
  What an arsehole.
  
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  May 21, 2024 7:13pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  More detail in the Herald article:
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/prominent-nz-wine-grower-james-millton-smuggled-aussie-vine-cuttings-into-nz-in-a-suitcase/2KNIIJRGPFHGNOBIQWIXXJ3K44/
  
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  May 21, 2024 7:25pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/350285647/blenheim-grapevine-smuggler-fined-15000
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May 21, 2024 7:00pm
Tauhei Notts

Drinks with a couple of lawyer mates and the subject of Darleen Tana came up.
Many newspaper columns have mentioned that Darleen is NOT a director of her husband’s company.
My mates pulled up section 126 (1) of the Companies Act. Then they looked at (b), (c) and (d) of S126(1).
They explained to me; imagine if Janet and her henpecked husband John were the two shareholders of a company and John was the sole director. Janet nags the hell out of John about the company’s affairs and John does as she says, merely to preserve the peace. The subsections (b), (c) and (d) mentioned above would make Janet a director.
Possibly my post here is too long for the attention span of any Green Party voter. Darleen Tana’s work with their company puts her in the situation of a director.
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May 21, 2024 8:55pm
- Ghost
  
  Let me help you by making it short enough for a greenie
  
  Darleen is stuffed
  
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  May 21, 2024 9:19pm
Jack5

A dating site for Maori.

Harmless enough, and likely useful, but what would people say if there was a dating site for Whites?

Probably acceptable would be dating site for Chinese or Indians, for various types of Europeans, for Africans or for some ethnicities of the Middle East. But “for Whites”?

https://www.maorisingles.co.nz/search.py?
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May 21, 2024 10:05pm
- Ghost
  
  Google says there is one for asians as well
  
  https://www.asiandating.com/en/women/dating/new-zealand
  
  Good on them for finding a market and starting it up.
  
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  May 21, 2024 10:09pm
  - Jack5
    
    Agreed. No problem with ethnic dating sites.
    
    But would current society accept one for, say, “Whites” or for some synonymous phrase such as “for Europeans” or “for Caucasians”?
    
    I guess one could require each ethnic dating site to be open to all, but with a proviso that ethnicity of users would be part of published information. This might counter comparisons with TV documentaries about places (probably including historic Pukekohe) where it is alleged in the past there was open discrimination against Maori.
    
    Perhaps applies to other classifications. Sites for, say, gays or Lesbians okay, but would Woke and liberals allow a dating site targeted just at “heterosexuals”?
    
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    May 21, 2024 10:59pm
    - Ghost
      
      Some would, some would not. Just as some would accept ethnic dating sites and some wouldn’t.
      
      I sometimes think people make issues out of nothing. You see it on this blog a lot. Sometimes it’s out of their fear and own prejudice. So e have been brainwashed by their belief systems. There is such a push to create division amongst us all. People haven’t woken up to it, they think they have and think they are standing against it but in truth they are just playing along and creating their own division.
      
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      May 21, 2024 11:35pm
      - Jack5
        
        “Issues” and conflict are the life blood of news – and of blogs.
        
        But separate dating sites for different, say, religions, races, languages, surely create enduring divisions.
        
        The old American ideal, or strategy, of a “melting pot,” with blending of races, ethnicities, customs, languages into a unified type is surely preferable to the plurality of multiculturism. Think of the mess of post-Communist Yugoslavia, of Rwanda, of Sudan, of Ethiopia, of Somalia.
        
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        May 22, 2024 12:28am
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        Ghost, for once I agree with you!
        
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  We’re not “whites” (a reductive Americanism, or something out of South Africa). We’re ethnic Europeans. And if it’s privately funded people are free to set up whatever dating agency they wish. Given that Europeans are (for now) the majority in NZ there’s probably not the demand for it.
  
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