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Cassandra

Immigration is a big issue in Europe. Hundreds of thousands of Africans and Arabs pouring across borders and the Channel to take advantage of Europe’s generous benefits.

Most countries have significant parts of their population opposed to unmanaged immigration. Entire political parties are frequently focused almost solely on the topic. But one European country seems to have cracked the issue and that is Spain.

Most of its immigrants come from South America. Spanish-speaking Catholics who fit right in and can now apply for “regularisation “ after two years. It’s a bit like NZers going to Australia. Or Filipinos coming to NZ. It’s how it should be done – bring in people who will fit in, similar culture and English-speaking. Misogynist Arabic-speakers is precisely the immigration we do NOT want.
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November 11, 2025 8:01am
- artemisia
  
  Generous benefits. Pics seem to show a preponderance of young men. Perhaps those ‘benefits’ include more well turned ankles than a man ever dreamed of.
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:24am
- imalwaysright
  
  The Greeks give them 14 days to leave or else go to jail for 2 years.
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:34am
  - kowtow
    
    Do they . I thought ,like the Italians, the Greeks just shuffle them along to the next border , they end up in France and then it’s a small boat to Blighty .
    
    Where the Establishment welcome them with open arms.
    
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    November 11, 2025 9:56am
    - imalwaysright
      
      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/02/world/europe/greece-asylum-seekers.html
      
      Yeah nah…
      
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      November 11, 2025 2:07pm
    - Beach Haven expat
      
      Yup. They just literally point westwards and say keep on going…
      
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      November 12, 2025 2:11am
- Mike
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Plenty of misogynists here already, many of them whining in comments threads aabout ‘feminization’.
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:40am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Feminism is the most misogynistic concept in existence.
    
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    November 11, 2025 9:53am
  - Don Beckett
    
    What a weird comment – what does it relate to ?
    
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    November 11, 2025 10:43am
    - Mike
      
      Cassandra specifically mentioned misogynists.
      
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      November 11, 2025 12:03pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        ……..and the statement was correct.
        
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        November 11, 2025 4:43pm
    - Pope Punctilious II
      
      You know your problem Don? You expect progressives to make sense.
      
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      November 11, 2025 8:40pm
  - Jake Dee
    
    The feminization of society is a real issue worth looking into. Western societies are doing a massive experiment with women in leaderships roles, an experiment that has never been done at any time in human history.
    Are we just to assume that the effects will always and everywhere be positive?
    
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    November 11, 2025 1:46pm
  - Mike
    
    It doesn’t really matter which version of the sky fairy a misogynist professes to follow.
    
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    November 11, 2025 5:18pm
- Gussy Fink-Nottle
  
  10 years ago, Angela Merkel pointed out that, at 7% of its population and 25% of its GDP, Europe incurs half the world’s welfare spending.
  
  Mutti didn’t do much about it, though.
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:43am
- Swifty
  
  1300 more crossed the channel in only the last 48 hours.
  
  Almost all young men, supposedly fleeing war or persecution but leaving their woman and children to face the supposed horrors alone.
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:00am
  - Flossie
    
    It has always hit me that the majority of these “refugees” are young men. Groups of young single men would seem to spell trouble.
    
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    November 11, 2025 9:29am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      We used to call them “armies”.
      
      Being enlightened, now we call them “migrants”.
      
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      November 11, 2025 10:34am
    - Im Right
      
      Once the men gain refugee status Flossie, they can then (legally) apply for their wife and kids to come into the country under family allowance or some legal wording.
      Make no mistake, the men only arriving has an end goal/result.
      For every one of them that gains refugee status, times it by at least 3…
      
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      November 11, 2025 11:10am
    - Blog-aholic
      
      Men fleeing war take the women and children with them. Men invading leave them behind.
      
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      November 11, 2025 11:27am
    - Jack5
      
      The longer Labour allows the gatecrashers to pour in, the more intense will be the ultimate reaction of the British.
      
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      November 11, 2025 11:33am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Hard to take them seriously when they say they are fleeing war and persecution when they have just left France…
    
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    November 11, 2025 9:32am
  - Beach Haven expat
    
    In the past week one of them joyfully revealed how, as he strolled up to claim his hotel room, how he’d just been released after five years in a French jail. Tell me how these people are fleeing wars and persecution and how that stopping in the first safe country works?-
    
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    November 12, 2025 2:14am
- Ghost
  
  Are they? How about the muslims who actually do fit into NZ and give a lot back. How about the orthopaedic surgeon here who was general secretary of orthopaedics society in his country, the head of the unit for his area, or the Irish Muslim eye specialists.
  
  Perhaps instead, we should look at immigrants for what they can bring to the country, because both those people I mentioned above have become a part of our society, they aren’t Misogynist. Not all muslims are bad, not all Chinese stick to Chinese only groups when moving here, of all Africans kill their children.
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:09am
  - Cassandra
    
    Those who are happy to be Kiwis are very welcome but don’t bring any views inimical to the NZ way.
    
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    November 11, 2025 9:30am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Yes, bring your luggage not your baggage.
      
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      November 11, 2025 9:55am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    Statistics dear fellow, statistics.
    
    For every orthopedic surgeon there seem to be several hundred low IQ. low impulse control scumbags with bad attitudes and open disrespect of the culture and values they have chosen to invade for the cash benefits.
    
    Look at the epidemic of rape and organised crime that has broken out in most European countries, and look at the nationalities of the perpetrators.
    
    Native Swedes didn’t suddenly come over all Rapey, nor was solving issues with hand grenades and machetes a normal part of their cultural milieu (at least not for the last 600 years).
    
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    November 11, 2025 9:39am
  - David Garrett
    
    Ghost: As I have pointed our here a number of times, it is not so much Muslim immigrants which pose a potential threat, but their children.
    
    European experience of Islamist terrorism is that 90% of the terrorist attacks are by young Muslims – mostly young men – born in the host country. There is absolutely no way of telling if the children of Muslim immigrants – no matter how carefully they are selected – will become radicalized as young men. And those young men, born in the host country, cannot be deported.
    
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    November 11, 2025 10:05am
    - NothingLeft
      
      Muslim middle eastern society, has practiced polygamy for millenia and made most male kids dead-ends from a genetic standpoint.
      
      This results in evolution selecting for a higher behavioral propensity for jackal like anti-social violence and risk-taking revolutionary behavior to give them a chance of coming out on top of a social order whos rules were stacked against them. (for boys born down inheritance pecking order) to give some chance at the genetic payoff of having kids.
      
      And their society evolved in a way that made it easy for them to rid themselves of excess males – with more violence, constant inter-tribal and interstate warfare (as you can see in the frequently violent life of the prophet Muhammed).
      
      Similar is true of much of Africa.
      
      These genetically selected-for behavior patterns are in stark contrast to genetically coded behaviors of boys from regions with a long history of monogamy and general freedom from violence, where competition for genetic ‘fitness’ was more intellectual + diligence + economic in nature. Producing more pro-social behavioral norms.
      
      As much as such propensity differences are hard-coded into genomes of people from these regions (and such propensities are highly genetically heritable), they are maladapted for contributing to modern peaceful technologic civilization. Best to find immigrants from regions with long stable low-violence cultures where genetic success was mostly mediated by effectiveness in productive work. Asia, Europe.
      
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      November 11, 2025 10:58am
    - Conservatarian
      
      I’m also concerned about the MASSIVE SPIKE IN RAPE that has occurred in every Western culture that imports Muslims.
      
      For example, in the UK, reported rapes have increased 14 times since 1996 (the year before the Blairites embarked on a policy of mass uncontrolled migration from the third world, primarily Islamic countries).
      
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      November 11, 2025 11:07am
    - Ghost
      
      We aren’t europe and we can better target the immigrants we allow in. There is nothing wrong with bringing in Muslim specalists, doctors, nurses. There children aren’t going to be an issue.
      
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      November 11, 2025 11:30am
      - David Garrett
        
        Ghost: What an incredibly naive comment! How on earth can you know that “there (sic.) children aren’t going to be an issue”??
        
        Do you not think there are many well educated moderate Muslim parents in the European countries which offered them refuge who are utterly bewildered by – and ashamed of – what their radicalized sons have done?
        
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        November 11, 2025 11:35am
      - NothingLeft
        
        The problem is regression to the mean.
        
        Kids of high achieving immigrants with intellectual talents or behavior exceptional within their culture will on average be far closer to the average for their genetic heritage. 1 in 1000 mum and dad will have kids that average around 1 in 10 above their population average. (math is approx 0.25*(MumIQ+DadIQ)+ 0.5*Mum&Dads population avg IQ). Sucks for immigrant African geniuses who’s kids will average far below 100IQ due to their pop average ~70IQ, similar though not quite as bad for middle east with pop average ~85.
        
        But it is a bad economic choice to bring in any immigrants from countries with IQ lower than your countries average as they will bring down your population average and on average be less productive than smarter citizens (ie below average). Contributions in tax paid are highly correlated with IQ. For NZ that means East Asians and Europeans only
        
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        November 11, 2025 12:53pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        Thanks to Kiwiblog commenters for some “”interesting”” comments on all manner of subjects.
        
        Makes my day interesting as I do my research for any facts amongst the opinions. (Indeed, if there are any)
        
        On the subject of Muslim Radicals (Information best obtained re UK)
        
        I found the following…
        Radicalisation among Muslim youth (ie under 30 yo) is predominantly a phenomenon amongst second- and third-generation British-born or raised individuals from middle-class backgrounds
        
        Professional occupations (e.g., skilled or white-collar roles like engineers, doctors, or IT specialists) make up only about 12% of jihadist profiles in broader European samples including the UK.
        
        Thinking back to waves of Postwar immigrants to NZ (Polish, Dutch, etc etc – ie Not english speaking)
        
        Brought their culture with them.
        BUT, they integrated in to the then NZ Society.
        
        I am obviously no expert. But maybe its the intergration that is the key to Harmony.. When in Rome do as the Romans do.?????
        
        I would keep an eye on Migrants from Southern Asia as they are flooding New Zealand and, IMHO, not integrating well in a lot of cases.
        
        I am reminded that Today is the 11th Day of the 11th Month and on the 11th hour(local). I am reflecting on how modern society is compared to 1918. IS it better or not?
        
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        November 11, 2025 4:17pm
  - igm
    
    I had a muslim cardiologist in another town we lived, he was wonderful, and got things done. Also had a muslim dentist in the same town, he was wonderful also. He loved cricket.
    
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    November 11, 2025 10:12am
    - David Garrett
      
      igm: My Uncle Harry smoked 40 cigs a day and lived to be 90….which proves what exactly?
      
      You remind me of the extremely stupid and unlamented Stephie Boy whose answer to any thread regarding the threats Muslims pose to western societies was by saying that the 47 (or whatever) Muslims then in Dunedin were lovely. So what?
      
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      November 11, 2025 2:40pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        DG.
        You of course could apply the same thinking to your anti Muslim opinions.
        
        One Muslim did xxxxxx, so all Muslims are therefore tagged.
        
        So what?
        
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        November 11, 2025 4:21pm
      - igm
        
        Don’t call me stupid David, I was merely stating a fact that I had personally encountered.
        So far as I am concerned, muslims should not be here unless they renounce their religion, their customs, and integrate, accepting our way of life.
        
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        November 11, 2025 4:31pm
  - Swifty
    
    Muslims bring absolutely nothing to NZ that can’t be brought by or obtained from other migrants.
    
    Nothing.
    
    But their risk of trouble downstream is exponentially higher – as Europe is seeing to their horror.
    
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    November 11, 2025 10:34am
    - Ghost
      
      Nope, we actually do need these professionals, 2 years to fill the eye specialist at our hospital, and they guy is damp good, so is the orthopedic surgeon
      
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      November 11, 2025 11:41am
      - Swifty
        
        Unless you can demonstrate that it is physically impossible to fill those roles other than by Muslims your argument doesn’t stack up.
        
        And you won’t be able to.
        
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        November 11, 2025 11:47am
      - Ghost
        
        It took the hospital 2 years to fill the eye specialist because they couldn’t get anyone else for the job. They advertised globally for entire time. The orthopaedic surgeon, you’d be a dickhead to turn him down with his experience. Could be worse, we could be flooding the country with Indians who open up vape and alcohol shops, instead of highly qualified professionals who people crap themself over if they are Muslim.
        
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        November 11, 2025 12:05pm
      - Swifty
        
        This is exactly the thinking that has got Europe in the situation it is in.
        
        Suicidal empathy.
        
        “Oh but some Muslims turn out fine.” Yes, they certainly do but the big bloody problem is that you cannot tell the difference at the border who will turn out ok and who will not. And the second and third generations are another matter completely.
        
        50-odd thousand on terror watch lists.
        
        Tens and tens of terrorist attacks in the UK alone over the last 25 years. Hundreds killed, thousands wounded.
        
        It’s insanity to let more in.
        
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        November 11, 2025 12:44pm
      - Swifty
        
        And we should be training our own bloody surgeons.
        
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        November 11, 2025 12:45pm
      - Jack5
        
        It would be pretty hard for NZ to base its immigration on religion.
        
        Even the Philippines, mentioned in this thread, has about 7.5 million Muslim citizens, and Singapore has 950,000. How would you lock out Muslim Filipinos and Muslim Singaporeans?
        
        As NZ slides down the list of international wealth as measured by GDP per capita we won’t recruit from anywhere many, if any, of the top medical specialists Ghost speaks of.
        
        It’s not just salaries. In North America, Europe, Singapore, Japan, the specialists will have access to better and more expensive equipment and to medical drugs that NZ can’t afford. There are better economic prospects for their kids, too.
        
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        November 11, 2025 2:56pm
      - AitchW
        
        Swifty, we do train our own surgeons. Many disappear overseas once qualified to earn better money.
        Many also return when they have a family for the quality of life offered here. They also bring a wealth of experience gained overseas.
        
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        November 11, 2025 4:09pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      Not just Europe but Oz as well.
      
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      November 11, 2025 12:19pm
    - igm
      
      Many of the parents are reasonable, it is the subsequent children who are problems, and they breed like rabbits. Therefore they are not worth the trouble they create. Very noticeable how they cosy up to maori gangs; in fact, I am told one gang have them prospecting.
      
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      November 11, 2025 4:46pm
  - Tom Hunter
    
    94% of members of organized crime groups in Sweden are immigrants or children of immigrants. They have imported an entire criminal class and structure.
    
    Here in NZ we’ve been smarter than the Swedes and the Euros in general – but it pays to be watchful of any demands for immigration.
    
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    November 11, 2025 11:08am
    - Ghost
      
      So. As I’ve said before we need targeted immigration, not to let everyone in.
      
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      November 11, 2025 11:27am
  - NoFax
    
    Ghost still hasn’t figured out per capita yet and pretending not to understand what people talk about. It is all very tiresome.
    
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    November 11, 2025 11:13am
    - Ghost
      
      No, i just think we need more targeted immigration that focuses on bringing in the people we need, and yes some of them may be Muslim. Highly educated, highly skilled Muslims.
      
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      November 11, 2025 11:25am
      - David Garrett
        
        Oh dear…I give up.
        
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        November 11, 2025 11:35am
      - NothingLeft
        
        I dunno, there are a lot of smart Persians (Iranians), with a strong intellectual heritage going back several thousand years and most of them have had a guts-full of Islam at this point (secretly irreligious).
        
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        November 11, 2025 1:10pm
  - Taieri
    
    How about the muslims who actually do fit into NZ and give a lot back.
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    Like this one?:
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360488581/highly-careless-southland-farmer-and-company-fined-71k
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350182112/dairy-company-sought-mislead-authorities-era
    
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    November 11, 2025 11:44am
    - Ghost
      
      Ive given you two good examples of people that do fit in. You are always going to have people that don’t. Perhaps you could also tell us about the Indians who have committed crimes here, the Chinese, the Australian, the Brit’s, the South Africans, etc etc.
      
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      November 11, 2025 12:08pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        Something is wrong with people who worship a pedophile prophet.
        
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        November 11, 2025 12:22pm
      - Swifty
        
        Islam is a civilisational threat.
        
        Aussies, Chinese and Saffas are not.
        
        It is complete and utter learned helplessness to believe we have to live like this and that nothing can be done.
        
        Look at the Poles.
        
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        November 11, 2025 12:52pm
      - Taieri
        
        Look at the Poles.
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        They have a small native Muslim population, Polish Tatars, the descendants of XVII century mercenary soldiers, who cause no problems at all. On the contrary, apart from different religion they are very patriotic Poles. More recent Muslim arrivals also generally behave as expected, perhaps because they don’t live in ghettos.
        
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        November 11, 2025 2:17pm
      - GJM
        
        Many of those “Indians” causing problems are actually from Pakistan.. Which is an Islamic hole, as opposed to a Hindu one.
        
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        November 11, 2025 5:41pm
      - Jack5
        
        Re Taieri at 2.17 on Polish Muslims …
        
        Poland’s Lipka Tatars. These people were in Lithuania, too. Film actor Charles Bronson was a descendant of Lithuanian Lipkas.
        
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        November 11, 2025 9:51pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Being in the EU means giving up direct control of immigration. That’s a big part of why the UK left. Immigrants (legal or not) go to where they speak the language or where the welfare benefits are most generous.
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:15am
  - Beach Haven expat
    
    You are correct it is a big part of why the UK left but unfortunately weak-kneed politicians have done nothing to shore up the border or get tough with the French who take millions in payment from the Brits for various schemes to stop the boats leaving their shores and then remarkably don’t do anything.
    
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    November 12, 2025 2:23am
- Taieri
  
  Or Filipinos coming to NZ. It’s how it should be done – bring in people who will fit in, similar culture and English-speaking.
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  Filipinos are hardly from a similar culture. The ones I know reasonably well (my next door neighbours) are very nice and friendly people but their culture is very different from ours.
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:23am
- RichardF
  
  Who would downvote that? One of my sons friend’s is a kiwi of Nigerian descent. His dad is a university tutor in NZ. He came to NZ in 2014 to do his PHD in construction design, fell in love with NZ and migrated here. They are Christians. Hard working family, great people. We discussed the situation in Nigeria. He said unless you have lived with the ‘jihadis’ you’ll never understand what they’re like. We need more people like him and not the unemployed illiterate savages the UK is getting inundated with. Thankfully we have a huge ocean to keep us safe.
  
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  November 11, 2025 11:31am
- Scooter
  
  And immigrants have a higher birth rate than the locals so just immagine what Europe will look like after another 1 or 2 generations.
  
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  November 11, 2025 6:48pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

440 commercial driving licences have been fraudulently obtained by immigrants who provided doctored overseas credentials.

Anyone who spends time on the roads will have noticed the growing preponderance of truck drivers hailing from the Indian sub continent – the article skirts the question, but Blind Freddy knows who’s doing this.

It would be easy to blame NZTA for being naive, but the fault lies with cultures that are more than prepared to exploit our trusting culture. And NZTA is not alone in this – there are any number of similar stories involving overcrowded rental properties, fake job wages, worker and visa exploitation, overstaying, public servant bribery & corruption – the list goes on.

Import the Third World, become the Third World.

http://www.1news.co.nz/2025/11/10/more-than-four-hundred-fraudulent-commercial-driver-licences-revoked/
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November 11, 2025 8:02am
- kowtow
  
  This is a Bigly deal in the US too.
  
  We won’t hear too much of it from our te legacy media, but MAGA is trying to sort it.
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:59am
- David Garrett
  
  Nevermind: Several years ago, while sitting in a car outside a bank on Lincoln Road while my friend attended to business inside, I watched a Chinese woman make 13 (THIRTEEN) attempts to execute a parallel park – and those 13 attempts were only after I started counting.
  
  I approached her and asked if she had a driving licence. She said she did. I asked if her tester was Chinese, or a native born New Zealander. She replied “None you business” and wound up the window.
  
  I wrote to NZTA relating this experience, and asking what systems and practices they had to ensure that immigrants were not tested by a member of their own ethnic group. I got a hectoring letter from some young Karen deriding my “racist and outdated beliefs” etc.
  
  About two months later, it was revealed that some 50 – IIRC – Indian testers had been suspended for handing out truck licences to their Indian mates without troubling them with an actual test. I wrote back to NZTA asking what steps they were taking to avoid a repetition of that scam. This time there was no answer.
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:12am
  - wilderbeast
    
    David – it used to be the case that Chinese nationals who arrived in NZ to live could drive on their Chinese drivers license for a year before being required to sit a NZ license. I know this because I was told by a guy who provided pastoral care to overseas students at the old CIT. He said many of the male Chinese students turned up in NZ, bought a high performance sports car (eg V6) and drove abysmally around the place, some causing serious accidents. Getting to know these lads he gleaned that, at the time, a drivers license was easily obtained in China if you had about $NZ200 (ie no test). So basically some were turning up in NZ with no driving experience. Judging by the serious accidents still being caused by Chinese tourists, especially in Queenstown, one wonder if anything has changed.
    
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    November 11, 2025 8:46pm
- R
  
  The standard of driving and basic road courtesy, was a lot higher in NZ when we had dedicated traffic police conducting the testing.
  
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  November 11, 2025 12:13pm
Gussy Fink-Nottle

Trump threatens to sue the BBC. Fake news? Perhaps ‘BBC Verify’ will let us know:
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt?post=asset%3Ab565cb4e-f63a-449f-ab0d-88b8d0d72a62
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November 11, 2025 8:02am
- David George
  
  Trump might want to have a look at our Bee Bee Cee mini-mees TVNZ and RNZ.
  https://x.com/i/status/1987766668072984784
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:52am
  - keepcalmcarryon
    
    Someone send him the TVNZ clip of the morons shooting a Trump doll with the toy gun.
    
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    November 11, 2025 10:30am
  - MCōs
    
    What’s the issue?
    That’s entirely different to the Panorama programme that spliced two parts of Trump’s speech together
    
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    November 11, 2025 12:40pm
    - keepcalmcarryon
      
      Anti trump nonsense that shows blatant double standards and complete bias?
      I see no connection.
      
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      November 11, 2025 2:09pm
- Scooter
  
  Trump could bring down the BBC and he has every right to given the blatant defamation towards him. Whether he does sue or just ends up with a big fat pay off to make it go away, it probably has given a wake up call to most media. It’s ironic that in an attempt at a hit job on Trump the BBC are now in deep shit.
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:55am
  - Lance
    
    I would be hugely surprised if Trump went ahead with that.
    Threatening to sue gave him quick cave in rewards in the US, but undertaking that in British courts would expose this personal honesty and general truthfulness to full scrutiny. Yea, we will see.
    
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    November 11, 2025 4:35pm
  - Beach Haven expat
    
    Bizarrely BBC veteran John Simpson – as one of the many staffers who “spontaneously” scuttled out to defend the Beeb from this “terrible right-wing coup” – inadvertently demonstrated why Trump needs to take action.
    He said 77 million US citizens watch the BBC there, so such an egregious failure of journalistic standards could have had real-world influence on the election. It wasn’t just some foreign broadcaster playing loose and fast with some anti-Trump content that voters would never see.
    What these BBC titans also are turning what can only be a dishonest eye from as well is that splicing together quotes so they read/sound as though said in conjunction with each other should never, ever happen.
    It is the second thing cadet reporters are taught after spelling names correctly.
    A quote is a verbatim account of what someone said. If they didn’t say it in a way that works for your story you use reported speech (as long as it does not misrepresent the sentiment) or possibly split the quote and indicate with a … for text that there is a break (but again 54 minutes is a little too long to claim that sort of break).
    The two top dogs may have gone but I don’t know how any journalist involved in that story has not also been sacked. It is either gross misconduct or total journalistic incompetence.
    
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    November 12, 2025 2:33am
NeverMindTheBollocks

A Stuff article sings the praises of Avtar Singh. He’s a former overstayer who was deported but made it back to NZ through the recommendation of his former employer. He certainly seems to have worked hard, and has subsequently started several businesses.

But, he’s closed those businesses. What’s made him a multimillionaire is, wait for it, buying property – he owns 75 of them. Well and good for him, but I’m struggling to see how this is a good thing for NZ. His wealth comes not from creating and exporting back to India or anywhere else. There’s no suggestion that he creates anything that substitutes for imports. The report does not suggest that he’s responsible for any new builds. No, he just adds to the property bubble.

For NZ, what’s the point?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/money/360874896/one-mans-journey-overstaying-his-visa-multimillionaire-property-mogul
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November 11, 2025 8:03am
- sirknz
  
  He’s the right sort of landlord?
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:26am
- Jack5
  
  Avtar Singh’s rapid gains are an argument for stronger capital gains tax in NZ.
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:20am
- kowtow
  
  Funny how with the left wing te legacy media , certain “rich” folk are all good , including their ‘business” practises while for the rest of the capitalists , well , not so much.
  
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  November 11, 2025 11:14am
NeverMindTheBollocks

More poor reporting from the media, in this case RNZ.

“Fenella” is now on Super but still has a $58,000 student loan from a business degree she took two decades ago.

Repayments are being docked from her pension. Previously, her partner helped her repay the loan but the 44 year relationship ended.

The obvious unasked questions are:

* did she not think about the cost before she matriculated (she was in her 40s, after all);
* what use did she make of her degree to earn enough to repay its cost;
* Can she not still work?
* Did she not get some sort of payout from her partner when the relationship ended?
* Has she (and he) been so feckless as to not saved anything across their adult lives?

I might have some sympathy for her if she had been paying interest on her student loan, but assuming she’s remained in NZ (another question not asked by RNZ) then that’s unlikely – from 2001, all full-time students were made exempt from interest while studying, and from 2006 all borrowers resident in New Zealand have been exempted from interest. (Wiki)

No answers, of course. We’re just supposed to feel sorry for her, and swallow the $58k unpaid debt.

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/578436/dinner-or-debt-pensions-cut-to-cover-student-loan-payments
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November 11, 2025 8:03am
- greybeard
  
  “* what use did she make of her degree to earn enough to repay its cost;:.
  To me this is the most important point you raise. Take out a loan to get a degree to make more money in the future, and to help achieve other goals.
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:59am
  - Swifty
    
    If a plumber, baker or electrician takes out a bank loan to get his/her business off the ground but which fails a few years down the track, should the bank just forgive the loan balance? Should the taxpayer step in and clear the loan balance?
    
    What makes students so special? They took a loan to study with the belief that it would improve their future earning potential, just the same as the baker or plumber.
    
    It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if student loan forgiveness comes up soon as Labour Party policy. Another nice fat vote-buying bribe at taxpayers expense.
    
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    November 11, 2025 9:10am
    - Paulus
      
      Heard the other day from my morning dog walker Union leader that they are putting forward the remit to the Labour Party potentiaal Government that they will cancel and reinstate all Local Government Maori electorate Councillors.
      He believes it will get Labour many traditional Labour women voters back.
      ps
      His Maori wife is sister to a leading Labour man.
      
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      November 11, 2025 2:12pm
      - Swifty
        
        You mean make Maori wards compulsory, or something?
        
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        November 11, 2025 2:53pm
  - Skippytony
    
    Actually, I think the reasons for taking the degree are irrelevant. If they want to master Himalayan Basket Weaving or whatever – thats their choice.
    The fact is they executed a contract. That contract was explained in detail and the obligations are there in black and white.
    This person (and many, many others) have prioritised other things over paying down a debt.
    Perhaps hoping that at some future point a generous government will wipe the debt.
    
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    November 11, 2025 10:38am
    - greybeard
      
      I agree with your comments re contracts and the obligation to repay, but in this particular case it was a business degree: that implies a specific future aim of financial betterment.
      
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      November 11, 2025 2:06pm
- sirknz
  
  They are building up the groundwork for a future Labour policy to cancel all student loan debt for anybody who isn’t a straight white male.
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:28am
- Ian
  
  At present, people are required to make payments of 12 percent of every dollar earned over $24,128 a year. A single person living alone would receive a pension of just over $31,500 a year. So she would be paying $884.64 per annum, or $17.01 weekly. At that rate, it would take 65 and half year to repay that amount – she’ll be dead by then – in which case, any balance is wiped…
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:06am
- Taieri
  
  a $58,000 student loan from a business degree
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  $58K loan…surely not just for the fees?
  
  My son graduated with a double honours science degree about 15 years ago and his debt on graduation was $32K. Paid off long time ago,
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:28am
  - Quail
    
    What are the interest rates ,if any ,on Student loans?
    I seem to recall many years back that Student loans had low incentive rates which meant some were diverted to personal use!
    
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    November 11, 2025 4:20pm
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  There is another consideration, that as Universities are essentially in high demand, the dependence on fees has leveraged up costs to students, which has feathered the nests of staff. Just look at the ridiculous payments made to Robertson to be Otago Uni chancellor.
  
  This hasn’t been to the benefit of the education being delivered but to the benefit of those with their snouts in the trough. Funded by interest free loans.
  
  While I have little sympathy for people taking on debt without any consideration to repay it, for those comparing this with lending from a bank … would a bank lend money without a business plan or some form of security? The government is reckless in the manner that it makes this money so readily available. I am encouraging my children to stay debt free as much as possible, unless they are in a course with a guaranteed income i.e. health sciences etc.
  
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  November 11, 2025 7:37pm
Simon

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/578428/nzta-discovers-440-fake-commercial-driver-licences

Will they be deported?

More than 300 people will have to re-sit their driving tests after Vehicle Testing New Zealand (VTNZ) officers allegedly took money in return for passing applications.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/575236/hundreds-of-people-to-re-sit-driving-test-after-auckland-vtnz-officers-allegedly-took-cash-bribes

Will they be deported?

Third world mass immigration isn’t working.
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November 11, 2025 8:10am
- sirknz
  
  Will they be deported?
  
  Of course not, think of all that GDP they have created…
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:29am
- Raphael
  
  So California isn’t the only place handing out CDL’s to people who should not be on the road.
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:56am
- R
  
  For the ‘third world’ immigrant politically motivated promoters, it’s working very well; in administration and ethics we are well on the way to the political goal. Third world society status.
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:05am
- David Garrett
  
  Simon: See my comment on this upthread. Corruption in driving testing is not a new thing.
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:17am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Will they be deported?
  ———————-
  
  The testers? Those doing the bribing?
  
  I’d say both.
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:36am
- NothingLeft
  
  There’s real danger in allowing people from cultures with endemic corruption into roles that afford opportunity for it (ie govt and regulatory) in our country.
  
  And when you find it yo need to punish it really hard. Like they murdered someone, or like Singapore would, to stop it getting any sort of foothold.
  
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  November 11, 2025 2:22pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Who is fibbing?

Rawiri Waititi said Te Pāti Māori had begun “serious and constructive” conversations with Labour and the Greens.

But Labour leader Chris Hipkins denied that was the case, saying there had been no meetings since September’s Tāmaki Makaurau by-election.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/578450/te-pati-maori-mps-expulsions-questioned-by-law-expert-former-co-leader
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November 11, 2025 8:10am
- PeterTrentham
  
  Probably speaking to wee Willie Jackson.
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:23am
  - keepcalmcarryon
    
    The real PM in waiting. God forbid.
    
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    November 11, 2025 10:33am
- rouppe
  
  Yeah, they “began” in September. Haven’t had any others, but the talks have begun… //
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:26am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  It’s all a matter of interpretation, Maggy.
  
  Or maybe Chippy hasn’t been reading his emails.
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:34am
  - pdm
    
    Maybe those emails went to Willow-Jean Prime.
    
    We all know she does not read emails from Ministers so other parties would likely be treated the same.
    
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    November 11, 2025 8:56am
    - Paulus
      
      Are you suggesting the Willow whatever has been taught to read – isn’t she a teacher from up North ?
      
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      November 11, 2025 2:14pm
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    LOL. Hipkins lies like a flatfish at the best of times, but he probably hasn’t had any meetings. But that wasn’t what Waititi said. He said “serious and constructive conversations”. If he’d been asked about what waititi said, he still would have denied, as they weren’t either serious or constructive.
    
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    November 11, 2025 12:14pm
- Im Right
  
  Ohhh Maggy, any conversations and political tactics between Labour and maori party will be conducted via Willie Jackson!
  Chippy (just like Jacinda) will have no clue what the Labour maori caucus get up to until Willie tells them what’s happening.
  It maybe just my ‘reckons’, but my goodness I do believe I’m not far from the facts….
  Willie Jackson is basically a maori party plant in Labour, he would not be out of place as maori party leader (watch this space….)
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:42am
  - Ruahine
    
    Jackson is the Rangatira of the Labour Party. The Labour Party is run by him along with the other elected members who class themselves Maori. Hipkins is merely the TV face of Labour to fool all the useful idiots. Mainly those whose who watch the Maori approved news each night on TVNZ.
    
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    November 11, 2025 9:06am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Many white kiwis fear Maori.
      
      Its understandable when it becomes obvious that maori at all levels of society seem to be accorded a very loose interpretation of our laws and the enforcement thereof.
      
      This has the effect of neutering non maori from publically opposing or criticising the Maori ideology.
      
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      November 11, 2025 10:12am
    - Graeme Hall
      
      Irony about race and the Labour party is Labour’s Maori Leader (Rangatira) Willie Jackson has DNA proving he is vastly more Welsh, or Jewish or Pakistani than Maori. MP Jackson gave up being a Unionist after Roger Douglas made that untenable and instead became a professional race grifter. In this country it quickly made him a multi-millionaire.
      
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      November 11, 2025 11:28am
  - Swifty
    
    Willie Jackson is The Manchurian Candidate.
    
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    November 11, 2025 9:14am
  - Clyde
    
    Spot on. Hipkins hasn’t a clue what little Willie Jackson is up to, but one thing is for sure, is that we will never ever learn the truth from Jackson, Tamahere, ANY of the lot lurking in the Racist Party or the Watermelons. The policy driving this insane lot on the left is He Puapua. That is the policy of Liemore – no matter what Hipkins says.
    
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    November 11, 2025 9:48am
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Two equally uncredible people but in this case looking at who has more to gain by gaslighting the public I think I would believe “Idi” Waititi rather than Chris Hipkins.
  
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  November 11, 2025 2:45pm
Gravelroad

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360881677/auditor-general-considering-investigation-over-pscs-anti-mega-strike-facebook-ads
So this strike the other day of medics and teachers.
What did it realistically achieve for the unions and their members?
Anything apart from annoying patients and parents?
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November 11, 2025 8:13am
- kowtow
  
  Lots of headlines and more free anti coalition publicity.
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:38am
- Paulus
  
  Trouble may be that so many parents, mothers particulalrly, favour whatever the Teachers may do, irrespective of the inconvenience, as they see themselves as Teachers.
  Neither of which appears apparent.
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:47am
- MCōs
  
  A few days later Minister Brown announced the government were fast tracking 140 new hospitals beds across the country
  Surely not a coincidence
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/577547/government-announces-140-new-hospital-beds-to-boost-capacity
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:38am
  - R
    
    Obviously the unions, via Pub Service staff, leaked the intended policy to allow the union to gain publicity for their cause; and embarrase the coalition
    
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    November 11, 2025 10:12am
kowtow

The two expelled Maori party MP’s are crying “unconstitutional” , which is hilarious given they don’t recognise this country’s constitution.
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November 11, 2025 8:16am
- MCōs
  
  NZ doesn’t have a written constitution
  The Maori Party does.
  Whether their expulsion from the party is unconstitutional, I don’t know and it doesn’t really matter.
  Unless they collectively get their shit together, which seems unlikely, nobody is going to want their destabilizing influence as part of any sort of partnership to form a government.
  By this time next year it will be Nats/Act on one side and Lab/Greens the other with NZF floating around looking for the best deal and TPM irrelevant, in my opinion
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:54am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘NZ doesn’t have a written constitution’
    
    Did I say we did ?
    
    We do have a constitution nonetheless.
    
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    November 11, 2025 10:00am
Maggy Wassilieff

I wonder why our (previous) Chief Scientist couldn’t have provided such a clear explanation as to why Matauranga Maori and Science shouldn’t be mixed together in our education and science research systems.

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/zoran-rakovic-why-m%C4%81tauranga-m%C4%81ori-is-not-science-and-why-that-s-perfectly-okay
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November 11, 2025 8:16am
- Yvette
  
  With “such a clear explanation as to why Matauranga Maori and Science shouldn’t be mixed together”, does the same apply to mixing ‘tikanga’ with law, or the proceedings of Parliament?
  
  On Bassett Brash and Hide –
  Précis:
  Zoran Rakovic argues that mātauranga Māori and science are both valuable but fundamentally different. Science, born from open criticism and universality, allows anyone to challenge any claim—nothing is sacred. Mātauranga Māori, as a treasured, culturally governed body of knowledge, is sacred, contextual, and protected by tikanga. Calling it science confuses categories and risks colonising it anew. True respect, Rakovic contends, lies in letting each flourish on its own terms—science as universal inquiry, mātauranga as ancestral wisdom—without forcing false equivalence.
  https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/zoran-rakovic-why-mātauranga-māori-is-not-science-and-why-that-s-perfectly-okay
  
  • Surely the same can be argued regarding ‘tikanga’ in the context of law: so a “treasured, culturally governed body of knowledge, is sacred, contextual, and protected by Maori usage” – protected while ‘law’ is not.
  “Calling ‘tikanga’ law confuses categories and risks colonising it anew. True respect lies in letting each flourish on its own terms — law as a universal application, tikanga as ancestral wisdom—without forcing false equality.
  ________
  
  The law can be called an ass – can tikanga be said to be the same, if its use is questioned?
  Witness what John Tamihere currently doing in besmirching ‘tikanga’ –
  Tamihere emphasised that Te Pāti Māori is a tikanga-based movement guided by ancestral wisdom. “There is a tikanga-based solution to every problem in the Māori world”
  Tamihere: “[Tikanga] Our ancestral intelligence gives us the opportunity to work through issues in a way that doesn’t look for heads on platters – that’s Pākehātanga.”
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:28am
  - keepcalmcarryon
    
    Far, far too intelligent, simple and factual an explanation to ever be useful to the bureaucrat elite social engineers of Wellington.
    
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    November 11, 2025 10:36am
Cassandra

There’s a long article in the Herald about a large solar energy project which is to be built on land near Marsden Point which will impact on the cultural values,of the sub tribe which occupied the land 150 years ago. Then comes the real cultural value:

“Tribal leader Mere Kepa pointed to the Waitaki Hydro Power Scheme in the South Island, where Meridian and Genesis Energy reportedly paid $180 million to Ngāi Tahu hapū, and other stakeholders as part of a reconsenting process. She questioned why similar recognition had not been extended to Te Parawhau.”

It seems that the cultural gods could be appeased if a dollop of pakeha money was handed over. Don Corleone now living in Aotearoa?
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November 11, 2025 8:16am
- Tarquin North
  
  The solar farm is on private land that Meridian bought of Pete Batten who has farmed it for years. The land is also flood prone and can never be built on. In other words ideal for a solar farm and nothing else. Mere Kepa is nothing but a career grifter looking for another easy ride.
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:26am
  - Swifty
    
    Mere Kepa needs to pay more attention in grifting school.
    
    It’s obvious she has become aware of Meredian’s payments to Ngai Tahu and now wants a second bite at the cherry.
    
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    November 11, 2025 9:20am
- rouppe
  
  I remember talk of the “Taniwha Tax” last century. Are people honestly surprised today that free money is the motivation of iwi “consultation”?
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:30am
- kowtow
  
  Kipling should be part of the curriculum.
  
  Once you have paid him the Dane geld ( waitaki)
  You never get rid of the Dane.( Marsden)
  
  And so on and so on.
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:36am
- Yvette
  
  Ihumātao
  The land was purchased in December 2020
  By October 2024, media reports were saying “little progress made… after four years… nothing of substance happened” and that the Minister was considering dissolving the steering committee if it is found “not fit for purpose”.
  
  Cassandra, a solar farm could be put on this land, which the tax payers have already paid for, and by the time the farm has depreciated enough that it needs dismantling, maybe the steering committee will have decided what else may be done with it.
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:15am
- sirknz
  
  Wait till they expand the port and put in a spur line for rail to transport the goods back to Auckland.
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:33am
- muzled
  
  One word – Koharuption
  
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  November 11, 2025 1:44pm
kowtow

What’s going on.

Hundreds of fraudulent commercial driver’s licences and last month hundreds of corruptly passed driver tests .
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November 11, 2025 8:19am
- greybeard
  
  Oh Golly Gosh ! Goodness gracious me !
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:02am
- BananaLlama
  
  Heavens forbid they pay a Taniwha tax to drive on the roads that they paid for.
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:48am
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  The cultural diversity dividend.
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:37am
artemisia

‘Dinner or debt’: Pensions cut to cover student loan payments

Seems that Fenella, the main person interviewed, receives the pension and the Accommodation Supplement but has to pay back her student loan at what appears to be about $20 pw. She used the student loan for a business degree. Not sure that was a good ‘business’ decision.

To the rescue.

Former prosecutor for the IRD and tax barrister Dave Ananth has been helping people with student loans to negotiate repaying their debt.”Taking a loan is a responsibility, it’s tax-payer funded so it’s got to be paid back.”

Personal responsibility. So far so good. But. He goes on to say it’s the system that needs to be examined.

” … do you really need to give out this loan, can you avoid it or is there another way?”

Not personal responsibility then.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/578436/dinner-or-debt-pensions-cut-to-cover-student-loan-payments
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November 11, 2025 8:20am
- rouppe
  
  One Taupō woman says she is still facing a $58,000 student loan from a business degree she took two decades ago.
  
  She took a student loan twenty years ago, and in the intervening time didn’t pay (by the looks) a cent back.
  
  Which means she didn’t have a job over those twenty years.
  
  From 2007, her partner was helping her pay off her loan, but the relationship ended. One day she noticed $40 missing from her pension.
  
  The relationship ended when? How much was the loan if her partner paid off pay off the interest free loan?
  
  From the end of June this year, more than 23,000 people aged 65 and older had student loans. Of these, almost 6000 were based overseas.
  
  Holy cow. That’s a shit show.
  
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  November 11, 2025 8:40am
  - sirknz
    
    $56 a week over 20 years would’ve paid this off.
    
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    November 11, 2025 11:24am
    - MCōs
      
      Kinda slips off the tongue doesn’t it
      
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      November 11, 2025 1:19pm
Sparrow

Is the BBC the guilty party or the suckers with regard to the edited documentary about Trump. The doco was not made by the BBC but by an independent company called October Films Ltd. Who would have done the editing. So would the bosses at the BBC have been aware of this editing ?
I thought this was a strange name for a film company October?
Got me thinking I know dangerous.
The October Revolution of 1917 the communists takeover in Russia. Surely not?
Just a few thoughts
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November 11, 2025 8:23am
- Local Miller
  
  BBC had an executive editor involved in making the doco and it was essentially commissioned by the BBC. The buck still stops with the BBC.
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:02am
  - gravedodger
    
    Matters little who created the fake images, The BBC aired it in the week leading to the US Election, what a coincidence in timing.
    So Davie and Turness allowed to resign with their lives intact so now about the nobs and knockers heading Panorama?
    I hope Trump does take it to court then the bleeding can also be aired.
    
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    November 11, 2025 9:21am
    - mogg
      
      In all this furore over their ridiculous claims of ‘impartiality’, it has come to light that the BBC has an LBGT department, were they spend their time filtering out negative news items about LGBT and concentrate only on the good news. It’s not only what they are doing but why does a news organisation need an LGBT department at all .
      
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      November 11, 2025 1:25pm
  - Jack5
    
    Time TVNZ stopped broadcasting so much from the BBC.
    
    Not just Gaza-biased stuff, but the near-weekly science bits from puzzled, very mature BBC staff dazzled by scientific or engineering developments.
    
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    November 11, 2025 10:35am
- Raphael
  
  The fact that the top people at the BBC have resigned because of it suggests that the BBC knew of the edits.
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:59am
  - Christopher Thomson
    
    They knew about the edit.
    
    The whole thing has blown up because they were warned, in writing, before it aired that it was ‘problematic’ but they aired it anyway.
    
    It came to light because a whistleblower released the document.
    
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    November 11, 2025 6:17pm
- Inandout
  
  Spar, October Films flows off the tongue unlike September or February. I guess a name can make or break a company e.g. when you can shorten a name to Maccas and Coke everyone knows what you are talking about.
  
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  November 11, 2025 12:21pm
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘October strange name’
  Well Panorama showed the documentary in the October just before the US Election in November.
  And we have this’
  ‘An “October surprise” refers to a significant news event that occurs in October and has the potential to influence the outcome of an upcoming November election, particularly in the United States. This term was popularized during the 1980 presidential campaign and can involve scandals, major announcements, or unexpected developments that may sway voters’ decisions.’
  
  Maybe thats why.
  There is an allegation that the BBC by showing the doc interfered in the US Election
  
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  November 11, 2025 2:49pm
  - gravedodger
    
    It wold be a rare beast, a US voter being influenced by anything the BBC aired, firstly that the influence could happen if the voter heard the Panorama doco, and second how many US people especially a voter ever accessing it.
    I continually wonder at the intellect of any Media Peron here believing they can have such influence, the volume of such content might indicate they do believe their biassed tripe.
    Too bloody lazy to create accurate news coverage, so much easier to just play such tripe from overseas uncut.
    Can someone more understanding than self, indicate if President Trump can take legal action, I would pay money to watch.
    
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    November 11, 2025 5:17pm
  - Sparrow
    
    Your blog makes sense with the naming of October Films Ltd. They were formed in the late 1980s and have a LA office. So if it was a term used by influencers at that time it makes sense to use it.
    
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    November 11, 2025 5:51pm
artemisia

Praise as government launches plan to combat methamphetamine

An additional $30 million over four years from the mental health and addiction budget will go to front-line services. Hopefully outcomes will be monitored closely.

There is it seems a particular problem in Northland and there has been talk about locals dobbing in locals in the supply chain. Is that working? There was also talk at that time that many families would not dob in their own members. Even if they are harming, even killing, themselves or others? Loyalty, really?

Rehab is not cheap, and addiction is intransigent. Reckon one rehab chance and only one. Darwin’s Law. There are the drug courts, said to reduce reoffending but indications that about half do reoffend. Sounds like a revolving court door.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/578343/praise-as-government-launches-plan-to-combat-methamphetamine
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November 11, 2025 8:37am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Shell Lane (The Terrace) bike rack report:

At 8.39am, four bikes today. The public service is coming out to play.

A cool, calm, dry morning in the Capital, ideal for cycling.
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November 11, 2025 8:39am
- Swifty
  
  A record-equaling day?
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:22am
- wsk12345
  
  Remind us how many spaces there are for bikes?
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:39am
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    Just another 20 slots to fill
    
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    November 11, 2025 6:32pm
Paulus

Lest we forget that today at the Eleventh Hour of the Eleventh Day part of Robert Binyans
poem
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

Sad that so many New Zealanaders will even want to remember as it means nothing to them.
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November 11, 2025 8:43am
- Quail
  
  Paulus,
  My father died on 11 – 11. some years ago.
  A 2nd WW veteran who gave me three given names – all of whom fought in WW11. He was the only one who returned.My wife also lost two uncles and myself one.
  This family has contributed in blood to NZ but am now told we do not have the same rights as those with Maori ancestry.
  So yes ,I do remember the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month !
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:16am
- MCōs
  
  Anzac Day has taken over in this part of the world.
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:06am
  - MCōs
    
    My father was off overseas with the NZ Army from go to whoa, half the time as a POW on farms in Austria near Graz
    He went over there with my very hesitant Mum about 18yrs after the war, she was glad she did because it was a very emotional reunion between Dad and a farming family he’d worked for with the tension of their previous circumstances long gone
    My father didn’t care much for parades. He preferred to have lunch occasionally at the local RSA with some blokes he knew from their time together in North Africa and they’d talk about salmon fishing at the Rangitata
    
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    November 11, 2025 1:57pm
  - Paulus
    
    I am not sure of taken over, as there is no reason that both should not be remembered.
    They are also many months apart so no conflict of interest.
    
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    November 11, 2025 2:20pm
- David Garrett
  
  Paulus: Many thanks for that timely reminder. I religiously attend ANZAC day services, either up here in Tonga – Tongans served in both World Wars – or in NZ.
  
  WW I was a truly dreadful conflict on a scale and with weapons never seen before. It was only surpassed in horror by the next one, twenty years later.
  
  Lest we forget.
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:23am
- R
  
  Had we still had a responsibly managed and lead education system that taught real time NZ History, the majority would pause and reflect upon the sacrifices that were made. Such that now NZ activists can impose Marxist theory and practices into ill-informed minds, all in the guise of ‘freedom of speech and thinking’
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:28am
- wisteria
  
  How can anyone forget. At 11.00 am there is usually a pause on the radio to mark this event.
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:43am
- Jack5
  
  Maybe we can incorporate a fly-over by the visiting Luftwaffe.
  
  In the same spirit as the German soldiers among the pallbearers at the funeral in 2009 of Harry Patch, Britain’s last surviving World War 1 veteran.
  
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/8186578.stm
  
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  November 11, 2025 10:47am
- OlderChas
  
  Paulus this was always known as Armistice Day but I see several posts (in New Zealand and by New Zealanders) referring to it as Remembrance Day (which it has always been in the UK I think?) Has the name been officially changed in NZ does anyone know?
  
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  November 11, 2025 12:09pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Older: I don’t know the answer to your question, but a reminder that it is/was “armistice day” gives rise to a point – pedantic is may seem, but correct nonetheless.
    
    It is this: WW I did NOT end on 11.11.18 but a year later, after the Treaty of Versailles was signed. Interestingly, the old war memorial in Kaukapakapa near Rancho Garrett gives the dates of WW I as 1914-19 – which is strictly correct. I have never seen that anywhere else.
    
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    November 11, 2025 2:50pm
    - Colville
      
      DG I would have happily bet and sadly lost a good bottle of scotch on the 18/19 question!
      
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      November 11, 2025 2:58pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      DG, it’s not widely remembered now that the war continued into 1919, specifically in respect of the battles between the Reds and the Whites in Russia. The Royal Navy in particular picked up White refugees from Black Sea ports and were shelled for their trouble. IIRC there were British troops fighting around Murmansk also.
      
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      November 11, 2025 6:38pm
Swifty

The Australian Labor Party uses state coercion to force the production of local content:

https://x.com/albomp/status/1987766266170663301?s=46

Crony-capitalism Labor-style.

Just what the NZ Labour Party will do here as a nice fat bribe to the local industry for their electoral support.
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November 11, 2025 8:45am
Swifty

Aussie is going down the native title plug hole too:

https://x.com/nobodystakee/status/1987727990051258580?s=46

Payola for the Gimmimunni People.
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November 11, 2025 9:45am
Swifty

On the subject of possible asset sales – while the economy is yet to recover from Labour’s mismanagement, I would rule out asset sales.

Their value will be relatively small, and it plays into the oppositions hands that National tanked the economy deliberately in order to flog assets to their mates.

Just don’t do it, it’s not worth the grief, certainly in the second term.

Third term maybe, I’d there is a third term, and if the economy is going along swimmingly.
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November 11, 2025 10:39am
Jack5

Phillip John Smith, prison escaper to Brazil, is seemingly irrepressible when it comes to entrepreneurship.

Smith has again just been declined parole.

His latest behind-bars venture? He’s been into crypto currency.

Eleven years ago this month, we learned in court that he financed his then recent escape to Brazil by running an electronics importing company from his cell.

Since then, Smith’s been in trouble over using a Covid business support loan.

Originally, in 1996, he was imprisoned for life for murdering a man in Wellington. He was also sentenced for sexually abusing the man’s son.

Latest:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/murderer-prison-escapee-phillip-john-smith-pleads-for-parole-at-his-18th-hearing/IHOP6HLKTFD7TM2LG56GOE5NBA/

Earlier:
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/smith-earned-funds-flee-jail
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November 11, 2025 11:27am
bythesea

Sports news – IOC (International Olympic Committee) looking to ban all biological males from a lot more (or all?) female events.

About time.

Irony of ironies, a lot of photos associated with this article by international commentators feature NZ’s own L. Hubbard, a biological male who participated in the female weightlifting in 2020, as well as the recent boxing from 2024.

I would like to see NZOC apologize to the female athlete that missed out on a place due to Hubbard’s selection.

And for NZ to apply this blindingly obvious ruling all the way down the sports levels as far as secondary schools
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November 11, 2025 11:56am
Swifty

Roger gave me my first tattoo in 1984 at the tender age of 18!

I finished nightshift at 7am, went up to the Waterloo for a few after work, and pre-tattoo, beverages and then shot up to Roger’s in Cuba St.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/life/lifestyle/a-legacy-at-least-as-great-as-mccahon-tattoo-icon-roger-ingerton-s-designs-live-on

A hell of a nice bloke.
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November 11, 2025 12:06pm
- David Garrett
  
  Swifty: A “hell of a nice bloke” he may have been, but in tattooing you after you had been drinking, he broke one of the fundamental “codes” of traditionalist tattooists. The other was “no tattoos on hands” but that too is now long gone.
  
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  November 11, 2025 2:54pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Hands? Necks and faces!
    
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    November 11, 2025 6:40pm
MCōs

Mr Luxon in the middle of rebuffing Winston’s comments on Morning Report this morning said he knows the government can turn the economy round
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360882264/luxon-dismisses-peters-critique-hes-been-here-50-years-goodness-sake
This cartoon explains the upswing
https://x.com/kiffineileen/status/1987766021768581361?s=61
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November 11, 2025 12:07pm
- David Garrett
  
  MCos: So here we go…the beginning of the inevitable unraveling of any coalition the Great Charlatan is involved in…I’m betting it will implode within six months – leaving Peters to lambast the Nats for their supposed failings in the run up to the election.
  
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  November 11, 2025 12:31pm
  - MCōs
    
    Peters is caught in a bind.
    Whenever he’s been part of a government his party has failed to win any seats at the next election.
    Furthermore
    I think there’s a pretty good chance chance he’ll be too old next time (again)
    It’s starting to look like The Ancient Politician and Thesaurus Man
    
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    November 11, 2025 2:16pm
    - Conservatarian
      
      You think that NZ First won’t get 5% of the party vote?
      
      They’re generally at 7-10% of every poll in the last six months and above 5% in all polls this current term, except one single poll in April 2024.
      
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      November 11, 2025 4:25pm
Swifty

The Gimmimunni People have their hands out:

https://x.com/theconservati19/status/1987726268092260563?s=46
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November 11, 2025 12:15pm
Spam

The ~~New Zealand School Boards Association~~ Te Whakarōpūtanga Kaitiaki Kura o Aotearoa are upset that the Education Minister has removed the requirements for Boards to “give effect to to Te Tiriti o Waitangi”. The president has met with Te Riu Roa, NZPF, PPTA Te Wehengarua, Te Akatea Māori Principals Association, SPANZ, Ngā Kura ā Iwi o Aotearoa, and Te Rūnanga Nui o ngā Kura Kaupapa Māori o Aotearoa and the National Iwi Chairs forum. They have agreed to support a petition, and are encouraging Boards to write letters to the Minister. They have even provided talking points.

What they have NOT done, is asked what their members think. Because all the members (must) think the same. Or else.
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November 11, 2025 12:21pm
- artemisia
  
  Not likely to be a wide range of views from those groups. Which was the point. And underlying reporting being upset, follow the money. Or even the logic, if any.
  
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  November 11, 2025 12:43pm
  - Swifty
    
    They represent their interests and those of their political masters.
    
    They do not represent the interests of New Zealand parents or their children.
    
    Far from it.
    
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    November 11, 2025 1:06pm
  - Swifty
    
    “Removing Te Tiriti from the one place every child in Aotearoa passes through – our education system – deprives our tamariki of the opportunity to learn about identity, belonging, and partnership in a culturally responsive environment, and we will not sit idly by while this happens.”
    
    And there you have it. The open admission that our schools will be used as vehicles of indoctrination, and forced by the state.
    
    That’s right – it won’t be New Zealand parents who decide what their children are to be taught, it’ll be the Iwi leaders and the education unions.
    
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/578492/iwi-petition-against-government-s-removal-of-treaty-of-waitangi-requirement-in-schools
    
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    November 11, 2025 2:24pm
  - Phronesis
    
    The money comes from us, the taxpayers, because the cretins we elected are still funding these outfits without preventing them from actively lobbying against the government. https://www.education.govt.nz/news/contract-school-board-support-awarded
    
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    November 11, 2025 2:37pm
- Swifty
  
  Those organisations are irredeemably politicised.
  
  To paraphrase one veteran Kiwiblogger “they are nothing but astroturf outfits for the NZ Labour Party.”
  
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  November 11, 2025 1:04pm
- Paulus
  
  Members will do as they are bloody well told as they pay the players even if they do not realise it.
  
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  November 11, 2025 2:23pm
- Phronesis
  
  They are funded by taxpayers through the ministry of education. The contract was just renewed a few months ago. How retarded is this government that they are still funding lobby groups to lobby against their own policies.
  
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  November 11, 2025 2:33pm
- Conservatarian
  
  The National Iwi Chairs forum has been quite busy recently on another issue.
  
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  November 11, 2025 4:26pm
Swifty

“Two men who didn’t defend borders honouring men who did defend borders.”

https://x.com/evilarthurfleck/status/1987666931407814934?s=46
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November 11, 2025 1:02pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Ouch!
  
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  November 11, 2025 6:41pm
Swifty

Yep, this is who was very recently voted into our Parliament.

What’s worse, is the numbers of our countryfolk who will believe her.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/tongariro-fire-a-message-from-deceased-paramount-iwi-chief-te-pati-maori-mp/FLDVBMH2TNA7PGBQWRGGFZ7SYE/

It’s no wonder Maori of old called on the government to suppress the tohunga. This superstitious nonsense leads us into dark places.
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November 11, 2025 1:44pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360880756/horticultural-contractor-jailed-rape-and-exploitation-two-workers
And still it continues – same names, same corrupt practices.
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November 11, 2025 1:54pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  TV1 headlines the criminal as “Hastings Man” and starts the story “A Hastings businessman …”.
  
  Media scum! There was zero comment beyond a bare statement that the criminal is a Singh; they made no connections to other similar cases and made no attempt to report his immigration status.
  
  If you didn’t know better, apart from his name you’d think that this was a dreadful case of a real New Zealander exploiting a vulnerable young woman.
  
  But, it isn’t. I’m past fed up with having the good name of my country being dragged through the mud by sh*t like this. We simply have to retain the right to strip citizenship (if he has it), perhaps on the grounds that he clearly lied on application when he claimed to be a person of good character.
  
  http://www.1news.co.nz/2025/11/11/hastings-man-jailed-for-over-14-years-for-raping-two-migrant-workers/
  
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  November 11, 2025 6:53pm
keepcalmcarryon

NZ first and Nats scuttle real change in gun law tidy up.
Register remains , cops keep FSA, windows are dressed.
ACT will bleed votes.
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November 11, 2025 2:14pm
- Swifty
  
  Bleed to where?
  
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  November 11, 2025 9:26pm
Hugh Jarse

Yes and also good to see that the Judge only bartered his sentence down two years. However in other cases, offenders of another group would be discounted down to Home D for this type of offending.
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November 11, 2025 2:35pm
Swifty

Boy, if Michael King was alive he would be getting cancelled big time right about now:

https://x.com/kiwilivesmatter/status/1988108195114689007?s=46
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November 11, 2025 8:49pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Michael King got cancelled in his life-time.
  
  King produced a series of books about Māori history between the mid-1970s and the mid-1980s, hoping to educate the non-Māori public and to expand the scholarship on Māori subjects. He withdrew from the field following complaints by some Māori that Pākehā should be leaving Māori to tell their own stories.
  
  https://teara.govt.nz/en/speech/47710/writing-maori-history
  
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