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Cassandra

Labour leader Chris Hipkins claims to be a democratic socialist. Modelled on the incoming NY mayor he’s going to set up a Labour Party supermarket in every borough (suburb) in NZ, free public transport throughout the country and a rent freeze. In his second month he will cure cancer, stop all wars and walk across Lake Taupo.

Apparently his six years as a Cabinet minister without doing any of these things was because Jacinda Ardern stopped him. “The water is very cold, Chris, be careful”.

Hipkins equates social democracy with democratic socialism. One is Blair and H Clark (and possibly J Bolger!) and the other is Marx. Hipkins talks a load of codswallop.

To be fair, Hipkins ruled out State-owned supermarkets. Labour is no more a socialist party than National. Hipkins is merely basking on the Mamdani afterglow, perhaps trying to attract lefties who don’t think or read.
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November 13, 2025 8:00am
- Anthony Melchett
  
  …”perhaps trying to attract lefties who don’t think or read”
  
  Which appears to be all of them.
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:08am
  - sirknz
    
    Some of the lefties I know are very well read and can quote verbatim what some French guy with a preference for ‘them to be very young’ said in the mid 1800s had to say about a particular thing that supports their current worldview.
    
    I’m just curious as to why most of their theorists seem to like them a little too young.
    
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    November 13, 2025 10:12am
- Spam
  
  Oh come on! There is no way he will do that!
  
  The Iwi won’t give him permission t walk across lake Taupo.
  
  Although I guess he could have the taxpayer stump up with the ~~facilitation payment~~ koha.
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:27am
  - Cassandra
    
    Maoris don’t own the water. As far as I’m concerned he’s very welcome to try.
    
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    November 13, 2025 8:34am
    - OTGO
      
      But they do own the lake bed and the boat ramps so there is that.
      
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      November 13, 2025 10:17am
    - [email protected]
      
      To be fair we should be letting him build up to a large lake like Taupo. Perhaps he should practice first on a smaller lake – like Champagne Lake at Waiotapu perhaps?
      
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      November 13, 2025 10:21am
    - Anthony Melchett
      
      That’s not what they are saying.
      
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      November 13, 2025 10:51am
- Nikola Donatello
  
  “Free” public transport will have a predictable effect. Most folk who do not use public transport will not switch. There is no public transport where I live. When I did live in a city I would not have used PT if I had been offered money.
  
  The folk who will switch to free public transport are those who currently use no, or little, transport. They walk. Or maybe ride a bike. These folk are primarily unemployed or not in the labour force, some due to criminality or mental health conditions.
  
  Next step in the process is that PT becomes over run with people who shout, talk to themselves, or harass passengers. The regular commuters switch back to their cars.
  
  End result is that “free” PT causes people to abandon PT for cars.
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:32am
  - Ra Henare
    
    New York City is not like small town NZ……
    16 million people do not use cars!!!!
    
    They use subway and buses (and taxis)
    So, I suggest your vision is not remotely going to happen.
    
    I have been to New York City on a number of occasions, getting around is based on discussions about which Subway lines to take or which buses.
    
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    November 13, 2025 8:36am
    - RoboRob
      
      Of course people use the subway in NY the question is, what does making it ‘free’ do?
      
      Will it attract the wealthy to start using it, unlikely.
      Will those at the bottom of society start using it, very likely.
      What will the impact of those people using it be on other ‘normal’ users?
      
      Sure it will be great initially, regular users getting it for free, but eventually it will become unsafe. One suggestion is that the homeless will ride the subway perpetually and live on the trains.
      
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      November 13, 2025 9:06am
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      Yes of course. There will be some cities where it is impossible many people to abandon PT. I have lived in London.
      
      Even in Wellington, the traffic congestion and the cost of inner city parking will mean that many folk will continue to use PT, even if it is degraded..
      
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      November 13, 2025 9:09am
      - David Garrett
        
        Nikola: When I last worked for a boss – 14 years ago now – I drove to the nearest park ‘n’ ride and bussed into Auckland. Things may have changed in that time, but I had none of the negative experiences you list in your earlier post – the odd young person braying into their cellphone was the only real negative.
        
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        November 13, 2025 10:11am
  - alphabeatrium
    
    I was in the habit of using PT a lot in the past, when I was a student. It was a significant item of weekly expenditure. It was already massively subsidisied, but if it would have been free, I would have simply saved more money. You know, those savings that I eventually used to purchase a *car* when I graduated.
    
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    November 13, 2025 9:31am
- Mike
  
  The good old fallacy of the excluded middle.
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:39am
  - David Garrett
    
    OK Mikey Boy…make my day…
    
    What exactly is “the fallacy of the excluded middle”?
    
    (Since simple words please; I am just an old lawyer)
    
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    November 13, 2025 10:17am
    - Media hater
      
      The principle that one (and one only) of two contradictory propositions must be true.
      
      I found the above after a two second google search, which I thoroughly recommend if you have any follow up questions.
      
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      November 13, 2025 12:06pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Media: Yes, Of course I could have Googled it…but I thought it was more fun to thoroughly confuse Mike [Mod – no one calls you childish names, and the few that do and never made it through moderation, perhaps you could show other members the same respect]
        Thank you.
        
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        November 13, 2025 1:05pm
    - rangitoto
      
      It usually refers to a false dichotomy. Ie the argument only considers two possibilities when there are three or more.
      
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      November 13, 2025 12:37pm
- slightlyrighty
  
  Left leaning leaders trying to align themselves with Mamdani may find that this backfires spectacularly.
  
  If you want to see how a Left Progressive mayor can screw up a city , you only need to look at Wellington. I don’t know if the voters have quite learned the lessons in Wellington, but I am somewhat encouraged that Whanau didn’t even get in via the Maori Ward.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:25am
- BarryB
  
  Hipkins wouldnt be the first to reference walking on Lake Taupo – it fails to impress the media !!!!
  
  Muldon once said “If I walked out to the middle of lake taupo and came back to shore the media headlines next day would be “PM fails to cross lake Taupo”
  
  Not only is the water cold, the media thinks even miracles are a bit unimpressive.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:25am
  - Individual Responsibility
    
    BarryB – I’m reminded of LBJ –
    
    If one morning I walked on top of the water across the Potomac River, the headline that afternoon would read: ‘President Can’t Swim.’ Lyndon B. Johnson.
    
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    November 14, 2025 3:34pm
- kowtow
  
  ‘Labour is no more a socialist party than National.’
  
  Oh they are , and extremely radical to boot.
  
  However as democratic socialists , they are gradualists , they know they have to bring the electorate along with them.
  
  Slowly slowly catch the monkey.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:45am
  - Media hater
    
    To be fair, it has been a thoroughly successful strategy over several decades with little pushback from National.
    
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    November 13, 2025 12:08pm
    - kowtow
      
      Couldn’t agree more.
      
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      November 13, 2025 1:39pm
Cassandra

The UK climate minister flew to COP30 in Brazil, along with their PM and the Prince of Wales. The minister then flew back to the UK but he’ll fly back to Brazil later in the week. He stated “We must tackle the threat of climate destruction, we’ve all got to do our bit” or words to that effect. He’s donating his air miles to Greenpeace.
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November 13, 2025 8:02am
- JackRabbit
  
  Flying in private jets to COP30 to limit fossil fuel use is about as believable and having the annual “Stop Sex Trafficking ad Exploitation” every year at Epstein’s Island.
  
  And the raping of the Amazon forest, a forest they swore to protect, by tearing down trees, to make a four lane highway to allow delegates to drive there, could be compared to seizing hundreds of under 15 year olds off the streets, and flown to Epstein’s Island to give the delegates a “nice relaxing time”.
  
  Hypocrisy is alive and well on planet earth.
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:19am
  - AitchW
    
    You sound surprised. The climate elite have been taking the piss forever. Who doesn’t love the opportunity to fly somewhere to eat, drink and be merry (or Mary if that’s your thing) the whole time rubbing shoulders with people with whom you can agree how virtuous you all are!
    
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    November 13, 2025 9:17am
    - JackRabbit
      
      I’m not surprised, as you say the (climate) fear machine has been running flat out for millennia.
      
      But with every new generation there are more an more snake oil salesmen, and the general populous get more and more numb.
      
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      November 13, 2025 1:19pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    The Aussies are budgeting for over $1 Billion to run COP31 next year.
    
    If these people are willing to spend over a billion dollars on their annual meeting you can imagine how much money is involved in this scam.
    
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    November 13, 2025 9:24am
- Nikola Donatello
  
  Rumour is that next year the meeting will be in Australia. At least 80 percent of the delegates are from the Northern hemisphere so that will be a couple of billion air miles. 😀
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:24am
  - Paulus
    
    Like this years COP 30 will Ardern be our Representative at the next conference where 50,000 people are expected, like this year ?
    
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    November 13, 2025 8:27am
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      She was not really our “representative”. Despite her title she had no authority to speak on behalf of New Zealand.
      
      The COP presidency appoints such folk for reasons. Invites them to lobster and champagne parties. I’m serious.
      
      Disclosure. I have attended three COP conferences.
      
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      November 13, 2025 8:38am
      - Master Mariner
        
        Is she still not involved with the Prince’s Earthshot prize? If so , Then surely this was who she was representing ?
        
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        November 13, 2025 9:09am
      - Nikola Donatello
        
        No.
        
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        November 13, 2025 11:46am
- G152
  
  So much for conservation…….. why dont they just use the Internet for their blather sessions?
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:03am
  - Paulus
    
    Look it is a known and accepted factor that many places worldwide will fight like hell to get such a conference like this of 50,000 people, and we are told from one having been there that many hundreds, if not thousands, of night girl “attendees” flying in from all over the world following most large conferences as many male attendees are on expenses too.
    Part of the big circle of social economics.
    
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    November 13, 2025 2:27pm
mandk

I’m not sure Hipkins thinks or reads either.
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November 13, 2025 8:03am
- pdm
  
  To give Hipkins a modicum of credit I think he does read.
  
  Understanding or comprehension or interpretation of what he reads is obviously lacking though from the things he says and does.
  
  Which confirms he is one of those University educated idiots who does not have a practical bone in his body.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:11am
  - I remember when
    
    Is it “undertanding or comprehension or interpretation” or just being selective in what he reads?
    
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    November 13, 2025 10:30am
Hugh Jarse

Watch the media now focus on what Mitchell and the PM did re Coster and McSkimming and ignore Nash, Williams, Hipkins, Anderson and Ardern appointment of Coster and promotion, twice of McSkimming.

They should be looking at all of Labours appointments to the Police executive team, there is at least one more who has been got rid of since Chambers was appointed that should be looked into.
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November 13, 2025 8:05am
- RoboRob
  
  The ‘quality’ of the Ardern governments appointments has been terrible. Coster was terrible at his job and now it turns out he may be a dodgy cop. Then there is Adrian Orr, enough said. Perhaps the coalition might want to give close attention to any remaining major appointments. Time for a clean out (should have happened two years ago).
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:17am
- peterwn
  
  Mark Mitchell’s biggest issue seems to be that the complainant’s emails passed through his office without his own staff knowing of their existence (the Police secondees in the Minister’s office had been directed to refer the emails straight to the Police. I doubt very much that Mark or his chief of staff would have thought for one moment that the secondees would act in such an underhand manner. Despite this, he is a bit politically vulnerable here. The Media would be harping on about these and other matters.
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:35am
  - Quail
    
    Peterwyn,
    Several questions.
    If that is the case ,those staff members who censored Mitchell’s emails. should be fired immediately.Has this happened ,or as a bare minimum ,the staff named and shamed?
    Media has claimed several similar E mails went to other MP’s
    Who were they?
    Why did they not inform the minister?
    Or did their staff censor the emails too?
    
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    November 13, 2025 11:37am
    - JackRabbit
      
      If that is the case ,those staff members who censored Mitchell’s emails…
      
      I agreed with my staff I didn’t read them, so plausible deniability, but I did take a peek at them.
      
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      November 13, 2025 1:29pm
  - Keith White
    
    Mark Mitchell is responsible for all staff in his office. His denials have zero credibility.
    
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    November 13, 2025 2:29pm
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  Also Mcskimmings appointment of his mistress to paid employment with police was during the Mike Bush leadership years, is there a reason he resigned when he did?
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:45am
- AitchW
  
  They should be looking at ALL of Labour’s senior public service appointments.
  If they appointed so many duds to the police, how many more unexploded time bombs are sitting there in other departments just waiting for the right time to explode?
  
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  November 13, 2025 12:20pm
  - Ghost
    
    McSkimming was promoted under both national and labour governments. As were all these other duds. They didn’t just turn up in high positions when labour came into office
    
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    November 13, 2025 12:49pm
- Paulus
  
  Media cannot find where to look for anything Labour !
  
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  November 13, 2025 2:28pm
Anthony Melchett

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/sir-brian-roche-public-service-commissioner-on-the-report-into-jevon-mcskimming-and-the-future-for-andrew-coster/

“Could cost Coster his job”

What do you mean could? The only question here is whether we can somehow get him jail time.

When the highest ranking policeman in the country runs cover for what his assistant did, they should be marching in the streets for his head.
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November 13, 2025 8:06am
- G152
  
  They cover for one another… been going on for years and will, sadly, continue
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:05am
- pdm
  
  AN – if Coster had any conscience at all he would have resigned yesterday.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:13am
  - Local Miller
    
    Coster has been put on Garden leave.
    
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    November 13, 2025 10:14am
    - David Garrett
      
      Local: Quite so…but that doesn’t stop him resigning.
      
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      November 13, 2025 10:36am
      - Local Miller
        
        Resigning is admitting guilt, I can’t see him doing that unless he’s got no other option.
        
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        November 13, 2025 2:17pm
    - peterwn
      
      But meanwhile he is still on the taxpayer’s tit which is extremely galling. This must be a big blow to Chris Luxon and Nicola Willis as they would see big benefit in the better targeting of welfare money and the agency would be moribund without a Chief Executive. If he did return to his duties he would be a lame duck.
      
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      November 13, 2025 10:44am
  - AitchW
    
    If he resigns he won’t get the golden handshake. On a 500k Salary that’s likely to be close to a million.
    Turkeys don’t vote for an early Christmas.
    
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    November 13, 2025 12:22pm
- Paulus
  
  On what grounds could he be legally prosecuted please !
  
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  November 13, 2025 2:29pm
kowtow

The McSkimming woman victim is still on a charge .

Does that make the 3 of them on the stage , AG , police minister and commissioner ,and their crocodile tears , just another set of performative players .
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November 13, 2025 8:12am
- Local Miller
  
  Her being on a charge has got nothing to do with the Minister of Police. The Commissioner of Police, yes and the the AG, possibly.
  The current CofP seems to be the real deal and I suspect he’ll work hard to get her charges dropped. He was blindsided by what Coster left behind as was the MofP. Coster, McSkimming, the rest of the Police Executive, and Liebour have a lot to answer for, particularly Hipkins, Ardern, Nash and Anderson.
  It’s been interesting that the MSM have in the main downplayed that the McSkimming coverup had nothing to do with the child P. issue and was only related the the fallout from his affair.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:23am
  - kowtow
    
    The fact that one charge has been dropped and another still stands speaks plenty.
    
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    November 13, 2025 9:26am
  - nova
    
    I don’t think the police commissioner should work hard to get her charges dropped. That sounds like corrupt behaviour. The police should follow the proper process when considering the emails made to a different detective and his wife in August, and drop the charges if appropriate. Personally I think the HDCA is bad law, but it is not for the police to selectively interpret the law.
    The MSM media has devoted countless hours on the IPCA report, without actually reporting much of the contents. And have mostly established victimhood based on the very different crime that Jevon has admitted to. Some of the detail in the report indicates that the complainant didn’t go about her complaint in a very good way. Some excerpts (which are not relevant to the current charges, as they pertain to different emails):
    
    From 27 December 2023 to January 2024, a large number of emails were sent from several
    different anonymous email accounts. Those emails went to a range of people and organisations,
    including Deputy Commissioner McSkimming, the Commissioner of Police, Deputy
    Commissioner Kura, the Minister of Police, the Prime Minister, the IPCA and various media
    outlets. The content of the emails was often graphic. A recurring theme was that Deputy
    Commissioner McSkimming is a sexual predator who targets young females.
    
    And:
    An email sent on 9 February 2024:
    “If you were lied to then does that mean you consent? Jevon perhaps before you
    try cover up your behaviour with legal threats you should disclose to Andrew
    Coster your behaviour and have a look at international legal precedents
    classifying sex by deception as rape.”
    It would be very interesting to know what the lie was. Did Jevon promise to leave his wife and then reneg? Or was it more sinister?
    
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    November 13, 2025 9:58am
  - I remember when
    
    The release of the report on the coverup by the Police Executive would appear to be a masterclass in timing.
    
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    November 13, 2025 10:39am
Chuck Bird

This is behand a paywall. The best way I can describe it is crap.

Our warming world is leaving children hungry. NZ can help change that – Olivia Yates

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/our-warming-world-is-leaving-children-hungry-nz-can-help-change-that-olivia-yates/premium/KHO3BIWPX5CJXLDSASNZWGCVS4/
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November 13, 2025 8:13am
- Dougal10
  
  A warming world is producing more food at cheaper prices , its the huge numbers of people and incompetence involved in supply and distribution that makes food scarce and expensive.
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:20am
- Nikola Donatello
  
  You are allowed by copyright law to provide a precis.
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:25am
  - Jethrod
    
    I can do it ….. “codswallop”
    
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    November 13, 2025 8:29am
  - kowtow
    
    It’s written by a World vision shiller .
    
    Pointless drivel.
    
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    November 13, 2025 8:35am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    I did. The whole thing does not make any sense.
    
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    November 13, 2025 8:36am
    - Miritu
      
      You must have a lot of time on your hands to read such content
      
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      November 13, 2025 11:38am
- Spam
  
  How? We’re being told that we need to stop farming (well, stop farming anything other than pine trees), and that we mustn’t make fertilizer.
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:29am
  - Mike
    
    Who told ‘us’ that?
    
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    November 13, 2025 8:52am
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      Russell Norman kind of said that. He said no cows and no fertiliser.
      
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      November 13, 2025 9:11am
    - RoboRob
      
      The entire Green movement. Where have your been?
      
      Remember the world is also overpopulated.
      
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      November 13, 2025 9:19am
      - OlderChas
        
        So – who decides which humans are ‘culled’ to get the overpopulation down?
        
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        November 13, 2025 12:57pm
      - RoboRob
        
        @OlderChas
        
        The green movement! As we make food and energy more and more expensive the poor of society either starve, freeze of simply choose not to have children. As such the green drive to depopulate is achieved.
        
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        November 13, 2025 1:19pm
- JackRabbit
  
  Our “warming world” with slightly elevate CO2 levels is causing an abundance of plant and vege growth, and by trickle down meat production.
  
  That however is offset by the war against farmers and especially stock farmers,,”investors” getting subsidies to convert farms to forests, and big tech billionaires buying up large amounts of farm land and banking it. And the EU/NATO war in the Ukraine had taken the Ukraine from bread basket of food production to basket case.
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:34am
- Paul
  
  Just as well it is paywalled, so that not too many people will see the untruth. The facts may be found, for example, at
  https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/distribution-of-population-between-different-poverty-thresholds-historical?country=~OWID_WRL
  This shows that the proportion of the world’s population living on below $1.90 per day (in today’s money) fell from 80% in 1820 to less than 10% in 2018. The proportion has been falling much faster in recent decades (this is not to say that recent warming has caused the fall, only that it is not inconsistent).
  Of course, if capitalism continues to be rolled back in much of the world, we may be confident that this trend will reverse and that more children will indeed become hungry as the world continues to warm.
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:34am
  - cmm
    
    How much of that is due to poverty alleviation by handouts etc from others?
    
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    November 13, 2025 10:27am
- kowtow
  
  Yesterday’s photo on Herald of Cop30 showed an “indigenous” guy , gaudy coloured feather hat and all ……but unlike the World vision scare story of starving wee bairns , this guy looks like he had to be carted there on a forklift outta some fast food joint.
  
  or as Billy C would have said ” more chins than the Shanghai phone book”.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:24am
- slightlyrighty
  
  But why is New Zealand’s response to Global Warming require our farmers to produce less food?
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:09am
  - kowtow
    
    Or big Eurotrash companies buying swathes of farm land producing good red meat protein to grow never to be harvested trees.
    
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    November 13, 2025 11:41am
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  A good yarn on Plunkets show the other day with Tim Grocer about the stupidity of the Cop30 meetings, at one of them there were 140 Palestinian delegates!
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:49am
  - keepcalmcarryon
    
    Tim Groser sorry, sp.
    
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    November 13, 2025 9:47pm
- peterwn
  
  Jesus Christ never put his speeches and parables behind a paywall. Surely the Herald would be wanting such an article to have wide readership and showcase the Herald.
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:51am
- I remember when
  
  World Vision have an article by Olivia Yates on their site which I presume to be the same as or similar to the Herald.
  Naturally, there is nothing in the way of statistics to back up the claims in the article.
  
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  November 13, 2025 11:32am
kowtow

Is it a coincidence that NZME ‘heavyweights’ HDPA, last night and Audrey Young today , singing from the same song sheet .

Coster , good man make mistake.

IMHO it doesn’t pass the sniff test .
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November 13, 2025 8:17am
- Philview
  
  I am sure he fits the description of a nice guy but unfortunately for him he always had that a whiff of an appointment that could be easily controlled. “Yes men” get into a lot of bother when they work with people with more sinister motivations.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:07am
- David George
  
  “Coster , good man make mistake.”
  
  “By their deeds you will know them.”
  Matthew 7:16
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:49am
  - Jake Dee
    
    Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much.
    Luke 16:10
    
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    November 13, 2025 5:17pm
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  It’s disgusting running interference -the guy showed corrupt behavior who TF gets to say he’s a good guy? Which adult children actually believe in goodies and baddies these days instead of the shades of grey in almost everyone?
  Audrey and Heather that’s who.
  Simpletons.
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:52am
- Ghost
  
  You might want to listen to the segment, she was actually saying he was bad at his job. Actually near the end she says “is there really much difference in the end between being a bad man and being someone who thinks they are doing the right thing but are doing bad things”
  
  You’ve twisted what she said to where your post doesn’t pass the sniff test
  
  It’s a few minutes long, suggest people listen to it
  
  https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/opinion/perspective-with-heather-du-plessis-allan-we-all-know-how-this-is-going-to-end-for-andrew-coster/
  
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  November 13, 2025 11:18am
  - Ghost
    
    Also the huddle with DPF is worth a listen
    
    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/the-huddle-is-a-wider-police-investigation-needed/
    
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    November 13, 2025 11:21am
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I have yet to hear anything about the MPs and the news organisations the woman in the McSkimming case contacted and who ignored her pleas for help. This is a coverup a good ole NZ coverup and arse protecting carried by pollies to protect each other and news organisations to protect each other. This is not just about the Police. It reflects on NZ society and NZ governance. As I have posted before NZ governance in all sectors and organisations is poor. A failure to adhere to good governance principles. A failure to be transparent. A failure to disclosure. A failure to deal appropriately with conflicts of interest. The list goes on. Until we get people with the capacity capability and will to govern well in all sectors we will continue to be a poor performer as a society.
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November 13, 2025 8:27am
- kowtow
  
  It’s more than a cover up.
  
  She’s still on a charge .
  
  It’s also a stitch up.
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:37am
  - Jethrod
    
    When you say she’s on a charge, does that mean she is still to face her time in court or what?
    
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    November 13, 2025 10:08am
  - David Garrett
    
    kowtow: There are two DIFFERENT women in this scenario: the one Chambers publicly apologized to yesterday had her charges dropped; another woman is also facing charges for similar offending as the first woman.
    
    The common factor is of course one Jevon McSkimming…the really scary thing for me is that this prick could very easily have become the Police Commissioner…the top cop in the country being a corrupt sex offender…lovely.
    
    At the very least this sorry saga must lead to a complete rethink of how cops applying for top jobs are vetted.
    
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    November 13, 2025 10:43am
    - peterwn
      
      It seems the selection committee saw some email by accident which ended his chance of being Commissioner. In thinking about it, I wonder if it was an accident!
      
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      November 13, 2025 11:11am
    - kowtow
      
      DG /Jethrod
      
      ‘A woman who accused former Deputy Commissioner Jevon McSkimming of sexual offending remains before the court on charges of harassing another police officer and his wife.’
      
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/578700/jevon-mcskimming-accuser-faces-charges-of-harassing-another-police-officer
      
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      November 13, 2025 11:50am
- Ehlana
  
  I noticed the bit about media and politicians too. I don’t know exactly who she sent the information to. It would be interesting to know if any of them did any follow up and if so, what the Police told them and who that information came from.
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:52am
  - Mike
    
    I think it’s safe to say that there is much more detail to come.
    I also think a formal inquiry is needed, although the modern trend is to suspect any such delay to all the implications becoming known part of a cover up.
    
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    November 13, 2025 8:57am
    - David Garrett
      
      Well well…the stars must be in a strange state of alignment – I agree with you.
      
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      November 13, 2025 11:01am
- R
  
  This coalition government, and in particular, Erica Stanford with her plan to improve education; are doing their best to alleviate the results of 45 years of Socialist mismanagement, much of it embedded in such a way that removal of the failed policies is politically difficult. We are well into the third generation of people who have been educated to ‘rights and entitlements’. Little emphasis on responsibility and personal effort.
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:53am
- Philview
  
  I noticed one headline expressing concern that New Zealand could lose it’s place as 4th least corrupt country on earth. Such a ranking always seems dubious to me as essentially it relates to the public sector and no doubt they have an incentive to make the ranking look good.
  
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  November 13, 2025 11:58am
imalwaysright

Its looking like there is a narrative being adopted by the mainstream media that the most severe consequence Coster should face is losing his job.
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November 13, 2025 8:27am
Notsofast

I heard Sean Plunket tell Bryce Edwards on the platform this morning that Jevon McSkimming allegedly received a 1.5 million dollar severance payout or similar term.
Can this be fact checked?
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November 13, 2025 8:34am
- greybeard
  
  There is an article on that very subject on Stuff
  
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  November 13, 2025 8:57am
- RoboRob
  
  When is the public sector going to start writing contracts where the ‘golden parachute’ is null and void where your are dismissed for poor performance, illegal activities or corruption?
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:21am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Yes, and especially for contracts worth half a million plus annual salary.
    
    That level of salary is more than enough compensation for their actual work, there is no reason to keep paying them when they’re gone for any reason.
    Orr is a prime example, that money should be paid back.
    
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    November 13, 2025 10:41am
  - R
    
    The public sector won’t write such contracts, because deep down, they know that they are holding appointments well beyond their ability level
    
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    November 13, 2025 10:56am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Waddya mean “deep”?
      
      No need to go that far.
      
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      November 13, 2025 6:25pm
  - Paulus
    
    Remember Labour are the experts in writing such conditions whether you are Governor of the Reserve Bank or not some 5 months before an election !
    
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    November 13, 2025 2:34pm
- sirknz
  
  It was a superannuation payment from what i gathered.
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:23am
Chris2

Today must be MP Oriini Kaipara’s turn to be expelled from the partly maori party.

She no longer appears on the party’s website as one of its MP’s:
https://www.maoriparty.org.nz/our-people
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November 13, 2025 8:36am
- Swifty
  
  Are you sure? Have you seen her there before?
  
  Wondering whether they just haven’t added her, it still being so soon after her win. Remember it takes them years to file their financials.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:23am
Swifty

Honestly, what a clown show.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360884066/just-two-party-te-pati-maori-questions-swirl-about-last-remaining-mps

Not only are the booted MPs not turning up to Parliament, but Kaipara and Maipi-Clarke aren’t either.

Dysfunction, truancy, no positions announced, antagonism and apparent threats of retribution.

Good grief.

The Maori Party purports to represent Maori – I wonder what their supporters think of this total circus.
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November 13, 2025 8:37am
- wsk12345
  
  They don’t think.
  
  And even if they did, they don’t have the information to think about bc they don’t/can’t read or otherwise get the info to think about.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:04am
- MCōs
  
  I would suggest after the next election there will be no TPM in parliament with all seven seats going to Labour – again. Plus some of their party vote
  As things stand that would leave 81yo Winston once again in a position to decide who will govern
  I wonder if PM Luxon is thinking about offering him a diplomatic post somewhere. With him gone his party voters will desert Shane Jones I’m guessing and they sure won’t go to the left.
  Mind you who knows what Winston’s thinking?
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:19am
  - Swifty
    
    Good points.
    
    Yeah, it’ll throw a lot of balls in the air if TPM continue to implode.
    
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    November 13, 2025 9:21am
  - I remember when
    
    If they get all the Maori seats it will make their Party List prospects more difficult.
    
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    November 13, 2025 11:58am
  - lifesgood
    
    Shane Jones is very popular so I don’t think you are correct about people desserting NF.
    
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    November 13, 2025 12:36pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    Winston will not take a diplomatic post. Might offer him the GG position???
    
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    November 13, 2025 3:15pm
- David Garrett
  
  Thank the good Lord that Maori have NEVER been able to work together as a coherent whole for long…that f
  Goes right back to pre colonial times
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:23am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    An uptick is inadequate acknowledgement of such a brilliantly salient and poignant comment by David G.
    
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    November 13, 2025 9:51am
- cmm
  
  The big question is whether this will actually impact on their voter base.
  
  They are not trying to impress you and I. Our impression of them is immaterial.
  
  What matters is only their standing amongst the most radical Maori nationalists.
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:25am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    TPM has run out of money
    TPM has snubbed the Iwi forum
    If Hana Rawhiti Maipi Clarke is keeping a low profile it suggests that TPM is losing Tainui support.
    
    The future looks bleak for the TPM
    
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    November 13, 2025 10:36am
    - AitchW
      
      The Maori economy is reportedly worth over 100 billion annually.
      If TPM speaks for all Maori and acts in good faith for all Maori would there not be hundreds of Maori businesses clamouring to support it?
      Or does its incestuous relationship with Tamihere Inc make it too tainted for respectable businesses to be associated with it?
      
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      November 13, 2025 12:26pm
  - I remember when
    
    While our opinions may be immaterial the view of the various iwi and hapu supporters will worry them.
    
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    November 13, 2025 12:01pm
- rouppe
  
  A vote was taken the other day. Not one TPM MP was present. So lazy that they gave their proxy vote to the Greens. Whoever was doing it for them was so stupid they didn’t realise they had to give three votes, one for TPM, and one each for the two new “Independents”.
  
  I believe those two proxy votes drop off TPM shortly which begs the question who will cast their votes?
  
  I reckon that political parties should show some integrity and tell other parties to make sure someone in their own party is present to cast their own party vote. Fat chance though
  
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  November 13, 2025 12:12pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  So, the only two MPs left are the co-leaders?
  
  “Right, chaps, on the count of three we’re going over the top”
  
  “Three, two, one ……. chaps? chaps! chaaaps!?”
  
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  November 13, 2025 6:30pm
Ra Henare

Interesting that FINALLY Israel is recognising the siege mentality suffered by the Palestinians, which could be argued was one of the triggers for the infamous October 6th invasion.

https://ground.news/article/israeli-president-convicted-of-violence-against-civilians-in-cis-jordan

Yes, I expect all the Zionist die hards to pooh pooh the article and attack me as an anti semite…blah blah blah
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November 13, 2025 8:42am
- Mike
  
  It was reported yesterday that the Knesset has passed the first reading of a bill ti impose the death penalty for Palestinians, but not for Jews.
  https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/radionational-breakfast/israel-takes-step-towards-death-penalty-for-terrorists/106003166
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:03am
- Scott
  
  Ra – the October 6th invasion of Gaza was a long held plot of Hamas to lull the Israelis into a false sense of security and then attack them and make war against them in the hope of killing as many Jews as possible. And rely on the Israeli counter-attack to gin up bad publicity around the world so that Israel would have to back down. And Hamas then wanted to attack again and slaughter as many Jews as possible.
  
  October 6th was not caused by anything Israel did. It was caused by the Hamas implacable hatred of the Jews. I can’t see why you can’t understand that? Hamas hates the Jews and wants to kill all the Jews. It’s not hard to understand?
  
  Nothing Israel did and is doing justifies October 6th. The Israelis are liberal people who have a lot in common with western liberals. Hamas has nothing in common. They just hate the Jews and want to kill them. It really is that simple.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:25am
  - Northshoredoc
    
    Saying Israelis are liberal people is as daft as saying kiwis are liberal people, they are not a hive mind – just read some of the Israel newspapers and you will find pretty diverse opinios.
    
    Try walking through certain parts of Jerusalem on the Jewish Sabbath or Islamic Jumu’ah and you will find some distincly illiberal israelis who are none to pleased with you.
    
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    November 13, 2025 12:42pm
    - Scott
      
      Northshore – Israel is a liberal democracy with equal rights for all, including Arabs. They want to live in peace with Gaza and left every square inch of Gaza so that the people of Gaza could elect their own govt. They elected Hamas who killed off the opposition and never held elections again.
      
      Israel allowed workers to leave Gaza and work in Israel. For their trouble those workers informed on them and participated in the October attack.
      
      So yes while every Israeli is not “liberal” it is nonetheless true to say Israel is liberal, it is a liberal democracy.
      
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      November 13, 2025 1:57pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        Scott. I undertsand your 100% support to defend any slight aimed at ISrael.
        
        But 20% of Israeli population (Arabs) are discriminated against.
        
        While they have the right to vote, they are discriminated against by a number of means.
        
        Type the following in to your AI.
        
        are there any laws in Israel that impose restrictions on arab israeli citizens
        
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        November 13, 2025 4:26pm
      - Taieri
        
        But 20% of Israeli population (Arabs) are discriminated against.
        ————–
        A few Israeli Arabs discriminated against:
        
        Salim Joubran, Israeli Supreme Court justice from 2004 to 2017
        Khaled Kabub, Israeli Supreme Court justice from 2022 to present
        George Karra, Israeli Supreme Court justice from 2017 to 2022, presiding judge finding Israeli President Moshe Katsav guilty of rape
        Elias Khoury, lawyer
        Abdel Rahman Zuabi, former Israeli Supreme Court justice, became first Arab-Israeli Supreme Court Justice in 1999
        Ghassan Alian, IDF Major General, first non-Jewish commander of the Golani Brigade
        Tarif Bader, IDF Brigadier General, doctor, Director of Kaplan Medical Center
        Imad Fares, IDF brigadier general, commander of the Givati Brigade
        Naim Araidi, academic, writer, and Israeli Ambassador to Norway
        Ishmael Khaldi, Israeli deputy consul in San Francisco
        Reda Mansour, poet, historian, and diplomat, Israeli Ambassador to Ecuador, Brazil, and Panama
        Ali Yahya, former Israeli ambassador to Finland
        
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        November 13, 2025 5:13pm
      - Jake Dee
        
        Calling Israel a “liberal democracy” is a retcon to get support for Tel Aviv from the West.
        Having essential functions such as determining citizenship done by traditional religious authority rather than by popular vote is a contradiction of both liberalism and democracy.
        Well funded political activism has twisted Washington’s definition of “liberal democracy” far past any rational breaking point.
        Make a list of the top 10 essential features of a liberal democracy, then see how many apply to Australia, New Zealand, Israel and Russia.
        
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        November 13, 2025 10:57pm
  - Jake Dee
    
    “October 6th was not caused by anything Israel did.”
    That’s the sort of absurd anti-historical mind bending motivated reasoning that is just making the Western Zionist position more and more untenable the more it’s repeated.
    We are expected to believe that in this phase of a 70+ year war there is NOTHING that one side did that provoked a reaction in the other. For the first time in human history we have thousands of people operating together, motivated by some sort of uncaused cause.
    “Nothing Israel did and is doing justifies October 6th”
    Now that’s a different claim and one that’s more defensible since it’s a moral claim and that would depend on what sort of ethics that you work by, but to claim that there wasn’t ANYTHING that Israel did that caused the attacks on 6-7th October and that it’s all the result of the inexplicable insanity of Hamas just ignores 70+ years of Israeli history but thousands of years of human history and literally millions of years of evolutionary history.
    Israel first conquered Gaza in 1956, then again in 1967. Israel was attacking Yasir Arrafat and the PLO in Gaza before Hamas even existed.
    I idea that NOTHING Israel has done has helped lead to this isn’t ignorance it’s deliberate ignorance, politically enforced mental retardation.
    
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    November 13, 2025 6:16pm
    - Scott
      
      Jake, well we can go on and on back in history to Genesis 21 where we find Isaac and Ishmael, half brothers. Isaac became the father of Israel while Ishmael is the father of the Arabs. The conflict between Israel and the Arabs is said to begin there. But we can’t relitigate the past for thousands and millions of years can we?
      
      But meanwhile in the present day and sticking with current facts there is Israel who withdrew from every inch of Gaza. Gaza could be a wonderful place. But they hate Israel and the Jews more than life itself so that’s why they declared war on October 6th.
      
      It was them and not the Israelis who started the war. It was them who declared they wanted to massacre the Jews again and again. Why people can’t see this is beyond me?
      
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      November 13, 2025 8:53pm
      - Jake Dee
        
        So Genesis 21 which maybe happened 5,ooo years ago if it ever happened at all is worth remembering and quoting, but Operation Cast Lead that killed at least 1000 Palestinians in 2008 has been totally forgotten and must never be referred to?
        This is the enforced mental retardation that keeps the war going generation after generation.
        Purely speculative myth must dominate and documented facts must be ignored.
        
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        November 14, 2025 1:07am
      - Scott
        
        Jake – gosh you do go on. My comments about the Old Testament were in response to YOUR comments about thousands of years of history and millions of years of evolutionary history. So you brought it up. The bible is true in every respect and you should respect it more than you do.
        
        Relating the incident in 2008 the Israeli attack was in response to the building of a cross border tunnel by Hamas. The tunnel was of course an attack tunnel to enable Hamas to attack Israelis.
        
        So your example is nonsense. Write this down. The Israelis are the good guys, Hamas are the bad guys. Hamas wants to kill all the Jews and that’s just a fact. Stop being a shill for Hamas.
        Thank you for your attention to this matter. 😎
        
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- Notsofast
  
  I’ll have a go then.
  On october 7 Hamas and civilian men went full genocide on Israelis close to the border, the very people who assisted Palestinians with jobs, and from whom the maps for the attacks were derived.
  
  An alternative would have been to attack the settlers. But I guess they didnt have suitable war tunnels for that.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:27am
  - Ian Boag
    
    Or a border with the West Bank ….
    
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    November 13, 2025 12:03pm
- Paul
  
  Weird – you apparently read the text in the link, but did not read the item itself. From the article linked to:
  “Israel’s president says ‘shocking’ settler violence against Palestinians must end”
  “President Isaac Herzog condemned the violence, calling it `shocking and serious`, after masked settlers attacked Beit Lid and Deir Sharaf, West Bank, on Tuesday.”
  “Israeli police arrested several settlers and four Palestinians were wounded, while IDF commander Major General Avi Bluth warned the violence diverts troops from security duties.”
  Presumably some staffer in ground.news (no, I never heard of this outfit either) amused themselves by creating a link containing text that bore no relation to the facts in the story, and Ra Henare fell for it.
  
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  November 13, 2025 9:45am
  - Ra Henare
    
    Paul, you need to extend your knowledge base,
    and stop jumping to conclusions. ie Ra fell for it.
    Personal insults do not help your case and just show your bias.
    
    The Ground summary is based on the Media reports that it lists. In this case
    
    115 referenced media articles.
    
    In this case, Some from left leaning media, some from right leaning media but the majority from centrist media.
    
    Read Ground news
    Then you can get a better range of views other than that pushed by NZ media.
    
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    November 13, 2025 4:37pm
  - Jake Dee
    
    Israel’s president says ‘shocking’ settler violence against Palestinians must end…
    While Scott says,
    “October 6th was not caused by anything Israel did. It was caused by the Hamas implacable hatred of the Jews.”
    
    Just do a little copy and paste from one comment to the next and you see how ridiculous the Kiwi Zionist position is.
    Try looking at the documented historical record and you see how illogical it is.
    Israel and the IDF were blowing up the secular Arab nationalists Yasser Arafat and the PLO in Gaza in the 70s and 80s, and Kiwi Zionist say the war was caused solely by Hamas, Islamic Jihadists from the 90s and 00’s.
    Either Hamas can travel backwards through time or you are all delusional.
    
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    November 14, 2025 1:35am
- David George
  
  The Islamic obsession with killing Jews goes back 1400 years to their “prophet”, founder and role model. A war criminal, mass murdering, rapist paedophile founds a religion; what do you think is going to happen?
  
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  November 13, 2025 11:02am
  - Paulus
    
    Does Islam actually g0 back 1400 years ?
    
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    November 13, 2025 2:38pm
    - Scott
      
      According to AI overview :
      “Muhammad and his followers fled to Yathrib (later renamed Medina) in 622 CE. This event, known as the Hijra, marks the beginning of the Islamic calendar.”
      
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      November 13, 2025 3:30pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        Of course, those emotionally involved in any argument/debate will not respond to logic or rational thinking.
        
        That is life and what drives many groups of people
        eg
        Maori Activists
        Irish on both sides of the borders
        Basques in Spain
        Many different political party true believers.
        Religious believers.
        
        Try logical arguments with the enthusiastic young Mormons who come knocking on your doors.
        
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        November 13, 2025 4:53pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Yes. Mohamed died in – I think – 630 AD.
      
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      November 13, 2025 3:43pm
  - MCōs
    
    I’m not familiar with the life of Muhammad and early Islam, which he founded around 610 because it wasn’t a high priority in catholic education system in my day.
    Neither was the Old Testament. I once, however, went to a service with my son’s school at St John’s | Presbyterian Church on Dixon St and during a lull in proceedings read through some of most blood curdling narratives I never knew about.
    All this predated Christianity, Islam . . . . .
    
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    November 13, 2025 3:51pm
Tauhei Notts

Yeah, I know, nostalgia is not what it used to be, but;
I am so old that I remember when a raffle seller, in an attempt to show how honest things were, would have printed on the raffle tickets;
“Drawn under police supervision.”
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November 13, 2025 9:47am
- cmm
  
  And…
  Cops didn’t have tattoos.
  Younger people would address a policeman (or a teacher) as “sir” etc.
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:22am
  - AitchW
    
    And cops had to be 6 feet tall!
    
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    November 13, 2025 12:28pm
    - Paulus
      
      and Male !
      
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      November 13, 2025 2:39pm
    - fightingtemeraire
      
      Also the Brigade of Guards, now look at the shorts ones.
      
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      November 13, 2025 3:12pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      I think 5’10” was the minimum height.
      
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      November 13, 2025 3:44pm
      - MCōs
        
        New Zealand Police Recruitment Booklet circa 1975. young men between the ages of 17 – 34 height 5ft 8 1/2 inches, weight 10st 7 lb, chest 36in normal, with expansion of not less than 2 1/2 inches. The background of each applicant is fully investigated for obvious reasons. His character must be unblemished or he will not be accepted.
        Meals are provided and toilet articles, chocolate, cigarettes, etc., may be purchased at the canteen.
        
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        November 13, 2025 5:41pm
NothingLeft

Siege mentality where Palestinians were the only ones attacking anyone? Lobbing missiles on a near daily basis from behind a high wall that Israel had created. That Gazans had made their home such a shithole under Hamas leadership – breeding their population up 10x to drive themselves into squalor and poverty is nobody else’s fault but theirs.

And that they had wrecked their home somehow justifies the horrors that Hamas perpetrated in their invasion?

Give me a break.
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November 13, 2025 9:50am
Maggy Wassilieff

A very clear, detailed exposition of why our education system has failed to uplift the long dragging tail of under achievement.

New Zealand’s education establishment is fighting because these reforms expose that their romantic ideology – the idea that kids learn naturally without explicit teaching – has systematically failed. And the ones who paid were the children who needed school most.

https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2025/11/roger-partridge-heretics-in-temple-of.html#more
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November 13, 2025 9:51am
- mogg
  
  The word ‘substance’ was everywhere in teaching around 2015. The older teachers were being sneered at for teaching basics, it was all about ‘the content and substance’. Classroom teaching was being turned on it’s head by novice teachers.
  
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  November 13, 2025 11:08am
- imalwaysright
  
  It could also be said that, rather than the children underachieving, it is the deliberate purpose of the NZ education system to stymie achievement.
  
  When the purpose is ideological indoctrination, what you don’t teach is probably more important than what you do teach. The damage done to our children over the last 40 years cannot be underestimated.
  
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  November 13, 2025 12:02pm
  - Notsofast
    
    So many sins of omission and commission.
    Fortunately self help with new methods such as youtube is available to these victims of labour party poison.
    
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    November 13, 2025 1:33pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  “ the idea that kids learn naturally without explicit teaching ”
  
  Well, this idea was prevalent amongst the PPTA until it was pointed out that such an idea meant teachers were unnecessary.
  
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  November 13, 2025 6:36pm
cmm

Last week I spent some time in hospital – some of that on a monitoring ECG (wirelesss EGC unit a bit bigger than a pack of cards that allows you to walk around etc while being monitored).

There is a shortage of these in the hospital and, after a while, I was deemed lower risk and had mine taken for another patient.

A short while later I saw a Maori language poster telling people to wash their hands. These are dotted around the hospital – generally close to English language posters. I would assume that these inform absolutely zero people and the only words that most Maori people would understand would be the names of various bugs (Staphylococcus, Campylobacter,…) which were the same as those on the English posters.

How many of these pointless posters does it take to pay for another wireless ECG monitor I wonder?

If there are resource shortages it is a pity that those don’t favour medical supplied over ideology.
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November 13, 2025 10:01am
- kowtow
  
  Yep , there must be a massive bro-ocracy out there producing all this tat .
  
  They must be part of the 17,000 public “servants” taken on by the Ardern regime and who this coalition ( Nat/NZF) keeps on.
  
  Their salaries would pay for a huge amount of health services and gear .
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:19am
- cmm
  
  There were also some signs in Chinese, Japanese or such. I am far less opposed to these as they quite likely do actually inform one or two people (though any Chinese person coming to live in NZ should have mastery of English at least to the level of understanding how to wash their hands).
  
  But a Maori poster? That informs nobody.
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:34am
- surfing
  
  The charge nurse on my partner’s hospital ward was trying to figure out how to stop patient’s families from stealing small medical devices.
  
  It was nigh on impossible, certain segments of society truly believe that hospital medical equipment belongs to them.
  
  Maybe expensive devices the size of a pack of cards is not such a great idea?
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:48am
  - cmm
    
    These are not just left lying around, but, yes, there is some possibility they are stolen.
    
    Here is an updated version (the one I had was the same as what I used in 2020, so getting a bit older now). About $US2500.
    
    https://www.usa.philips.com/healthcare/patient-monitoring/patient-monitors/patient-worn-monitors
    
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    November 13, 2025 12:04pm
- rouppe
  
  A few years ago I was getting some tests done. Some wires and stuff had to be taped to my body.
  
  The nurse pulls out a sealed bag with metal scissors inside. Opened the bag, used the scissors to cut several strips of tape from the roll, then threw the scissors in the waste bin.
  
  I asked her why they were being thrown out, because being steel they can’t be cheap. She said they can only be used once. Sure, I said but why aren’t they being sterilised in the good old autoclave and used again?
  
  Seems like they don’t have them anymore. Easier to go through single use items. I’m assuming single use is more expensive. There must be huge amounts of money on stuff like that.
  
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  November 13, 2025 12:02pm
  - OlderChas
    
    Many years back my father had to take a portering job in Rotorua hospital. He saw a bin full of discarded IV tubes, taps, drip controllers etc and ask if he could have some rather than throw it all away – as he could use it. He was given permission to take what he wanted. From that year on he had the flashests, most controllable individual plant watering system in his vege garden – fed from an old water tank on the property. God knows what the purchase price of all the gear was!
    
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    November 13, 2025 1:13pm
  - cmm
    
    Was that private or public?
    
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    November 13, 2025 1:21pm
    - rouppe
      
      It was at Bowen, and I think public.
      
      It was for a sleep test. I didn’t pay, and my insurance only covers surgery. So pretty sure it was publicly funded in a private facility.
      
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      November 13, 2025 4:28pm
  - Ghost
    
    Nurses in our ed don’t throw scissors out, they have a pair each attached to their pocket.
    
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    November 13, 2025 1:35pm
- AitchW
  
  I suspect that there is a small army of “cultural safety managers” who justify their existence by producing these sort of posters.
  
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  November 13, 2025 12:29pm
I remember when

Maori and Pacific Island.
How often are these groups used when mentioning some failing in the education, health or income?
This in fact often disguises the magnitude of the particular problem, as they will only represent 25-40% of those affected.
Is the fixation with these two areas affecting our ability to resolve some of the issues?
Why not concentrate on everyone?
Does mentioning Maori and Pacific Island allow the problem to be explained away as not the Government’s and Department’s fault?
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November 13, 2025 10:15am
- cmm
  
  It is a way of justifying the huge Maori/PI troughs that are filled from the taxpayers’ wallets.
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:36am
- surfing
  
  Many Maori students don’t seem to have any discipline at all in the school environment. They fool around, don’t listen to teacher’s instructions, and have this air of superiority about them that they are above the rules that everyone else follows.
  
  I couldn’t believe the teachers allowed this behaviour at first, but, what can the teachers do?
  
  It doesn’t matter though, they’ll be handed out taxpayer money, and handed special scholarships and special entry into university.
  
  So why bother?
  
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  November 13, 2025 10:44am
  - imalwaysright
    
    A good friend is a teacher aide at a high school.
    Her code of conduct is an extensive list of inviolable regulations, while the pupils are free to misbehave as you describe.
    Crap principal.
    Future high school reunions will get higher attendance if they are held at the local prison.
    
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    November 13, 2025 12:13pm
  - Paulus
    
    Whaddaya mean Maori boys are superior warriors as they are told byn their families, and I have noticed very recently young teenage girls strutting their stuff with painted faces.
    
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    November 13, 2025 2:43pm
kowtow

Michael Laws ;

‘Coster’s Last Stand”

Lol
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November 13, 2025 10:21am
Master Mariner

In the 1950’s , The LAPD gave every new entry a Psychometric test.
This weeded out any ill suited Candidates.
From AI,
Hell, I cant even belong in the Company I work for without one. I would love to see the results for the top Cops and the people who got them appointed etc.

“3. The Shift in Focus: From Aptitude to Personality
Prior to the 1950s, police testing often focused on intelligence and basic knowledge. The work around 1956 solidified the shift toward:

Weeding out Maladjustment: The core goal was to identify and screen out individuals who displayed signs of emotional or psychological instability that could negatively affect their judgment or performance under stress.

Identifying Job Suitability: Researchers and psychologists were increasingly attempting to link specific personality traits—such as impulse control, integrity, stress tolerance, and emotional regulation—to successful police performance.”
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November 13, 2025 10:26am
- Jack5
  
  Are psychometric tests over-rated, and given they are expensive, a consultants’ con?
  
  Perhaps businesses use them because it shifts blame for any mistaken hires or promotions.
  
  This “Financial Times” article should be outside the newspaper’s paywall:
  
  https://www.ft.com/content/8680e8e6-01e3-11e8-9650-9c0ad2d7c5b5
  
  A more scientific critique — highlighting the measurement problems:
  
  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2779444/
  
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  November 13, 2025 3:30pm
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    I heard of a shipping co that put all the Masters, Chief Officers and Chief and 2nd engineers through one of these tests and they all failed!!!
    
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    November 13, 2025 4:48pm
Chuck Bird

This is worth 30 minutes of your time.

Stephenson’s Euthanasia Amendment Bill Is Not What Kiwis Voted For Maxim Institute Podcast

https://maximinstitute.substack.com/p/stephensons-euthanasia-amendment?publication_id=2893315&post_id=178654271&r=1p69qr&triedRedirect=true
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November 13, 2025 10:43am
keepcalmcarryon

McKees “balanced” gun law further tightening makes the far left and anti gunners very happy, I’m sure ACT and their redundant coalition pals will be
tallying the hoplophobe votes they gain in exchange for the 230000 LFOs they’ve shafted, again.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2025/11/12/act-fail-to-give-their-gun-nut-supporters-machine-guns/
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November 13, 2025 11:00am
MCōs

I see some emails have emerged from the Epstein files showing President Trump in a poor light. Predictably they have been dismissed by the White House as fake.
Charles, formerly known as Prince, was similarly tarnished by a damming email, but nobody seems to have suggested that was fake. I guess Buckingham Palace missed a trick there.
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November 13, 2025 12:19pm
- Gravelroad
  
  Are you suggesting that Prince Charles, now King Charles, had some connections to Epstein?
  Evidence please.
  
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  November 13, 2025 1:21pm
  - MCōs
    
    No
    
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    November 13, 2025 1:57pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  3 emails out of 20,000. Not fake but deliberately used to create a fake narrative.
  
  #1 Epstein & Maxwell talking about Trump as the Dog that hasn’t barked. Doesn’t really make sense since by then Trump had already assisted the civil case against Epstein. The blacked out name was Giuffre who publicly stated that Trump had done nothing to her.
  
  #2 States that Trump knew about the girls as he tried to get Epstein kicked out and asked Maxwell to stop. Not sure how this hurts Trump? Surely this actually makes Trump look good other than the stupid lie that he didn’t know about the girls.
  
  #3 Trump lied about not using the plane and not visiting Epstein’s house. Not really a surprise as he lies about little stuff all the time. Two really big takeaways here though – no mention of the island which would have been in there if Trump had been there and Epstein’s literally talking to a journalist about how to use this information to blackmail Trump. Wolff needs to be subpoenaed and asked who else he helped Epstein blackmail. Seriously – that’s a massive scandal. Wolff said that this was just part of a discussion about Trump for one of his books but it’s serious enough to need to be looked into.
  
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  November 13, 2025 1:35pm
- kowtow
  
  If they were real they’d have surfaced long time ago .
  
  Fake news.
  
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  November 13, 2025 1:37pm
- Paulus
  
  Its all about getting Trump as hard as they can and of course as in the USA MONEY !
  I am waiting for the very many other Brothel workers employed by Epstein for big money to come forward.
  
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  November 13, 2025 2:46pm
- Ghost
  
  There was a rumour a month or so ago that there is more to come on Epstein that will focus on trump and that when some of it does, trump will make an announcement that will completely shift the attention of him
  
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  November 13, 2025 2:53pm
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  The current MSM blitz just accidentally forgot to mention Trump told Maxwell to stop exploiting girls and then kicked Epstein and co from Mar a lago.
  It’s almost as if the media have a long history of taking him out of context intentionally or something.
  https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1D6eHkTKoV/?mibextid=wwXIfr
  
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  November 13, 2025 3:50pm
- Christopher Thomson
  
  You have direct evidence of the information that shows Trump in a poor light?
  
  Or are you just chucking the slur out there without providing any actual prrof.
  
  As a counterpoint, here’s what Guiffre said about Trump; “repeatedly said President Trump was not involved in any wrongdoing whatsoever and ‘couldn’t have been friendlier’ to her in their limited interactions”.
  
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  November 13, 2025 5:08pm
MCōs

The police, not just in NZ, but in plenty of other jurisdictions, have a reputation for closing ranks when the reputation of one of their colleagues is threatened
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/victim-of-mt-maunganui-rape-calls-for-wally-haumaha-to-resign-as-deputy-police-commissioner-over-comments/WJBBU4U43A7ATRY6VL7TXFXHGU/
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November 13, 2025 12:59pm
- kowtow
  
  All organisations do that.
  
  I think it’s called human nature , or some such.
  
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  November 13, 2025 1:36pm
  - MCōs
    
    That’s no excuse
    
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    November 13, 2025 5:49pm
Ghost

In other news, police commissioner shows he doesn’t believe he is above the law.

After a week of bad news for police, Police Commissioner Richard Chambers has admitted he was “away with the fairies” when he was pulled over for speeding last week.

Chambers was delivering a speech to graduating police recruits in Porirua on Thursday when he told the new officers and their supporters he had been ticketed for going over the speed limit.

Article
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November 13, 2025 2:34pm
- jonno1
  
  Good on him for acknowledging this minor infraction. It’s hardly a hanging offence.
  
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  November 13, 2025 2:44pm
  - MCōs
    
    He’s hardly going to deny it happened
    Particularly if he pops up on Highway Cops
    
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    November 13, 2025 5:57pm
- MCōs
  
  You’re not in France now, Sunshine!
  
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  November 13, 2025 3:03pm
- Northshoredoc
  
  Good on him – that is a proper display of leadership.
  
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  November 13, 2025 3:17pm
Keith White

He just proved he’s not fit and proper, according to his own staff guidelines for FALs.
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November 13, 2025 2:53pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360883830/labour-most-popular-party-latest-poll-coalition-holds-power

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360885506/new-poll-shows-labour-pushing-40-and-likely-leading-government

So many polls, so many variations.

The results would be more believable if the same group of people answered questions from the polling company for each of the monthly polls during the year.

i.e. 2000 respondents are chosen by Curia at the start of the year and those 2000 take part in 12 x monthly polls : that way the performance of the individual M.Ps and parties could be compared over time, and the effect on the members of each polling group assessed.
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November 13, 2025 4:05pm
- Philview
  
  I don’t believe Labour own polling has credibility. I doubt the average person in the street could name more than a couple of Labour MPs
  
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  November 13, 2025 4:27pm
- NothingLeft
  
  repeated polling of same people alters their political perceptions and opinions away from average as they start paying more attention to it. As in particle physics the act of measurement alters the position of that which is being measured.
  
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  November 13, 2025 4:43pm
  - greybeard
    
    “repeated polling of same people alters their political perceptions and opinions away from average as they start paying more attention to it.”
    Exactly ! and that is what happens in real life – what the politicians do over (say) a 12-month period is assessed by the respondents, evaluated by them then published as poll responses.
    
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    November 13, 2025 5:30pm
- nathie
  
  Is anyone else getting sick of these two polls coming out twice a month? Talk about overload!
  
  Especially the “Labour” pollsters that always seems to be optimistically loose with their results (particularly when TV1 release their poll in contrast) or when compared to TPU sometimes it can be quite the opposite. Talk about who to believe!
  
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  November 13, 2025 4:55pm
NothingLeft

Long time internet commentator Lauren Southern (famous in NZ for her embarrassment of Paddy Gower when he tried to do a ‘hit’ interview) details the govt persecution she’s had to endure over the last year – basically a long creepy Kafkaesque effort of threats of arrest (for crimes never stated) and cajoling to entrap her or recruit her as an intelligence asset by Canadian govt after she unwittingly got ensnared in a Russian funding of influencers scheme (along with Tim Pool and Dave Reubin)

Interesting, appalling and enlightening by parts as she talks about how fucked up and corrupted political commentary world has become – she’s basically sworn off it now.

Canada seems to be now ruled by the kind of people that escapees from totalitarian countries recognize all too well.

https://youtu.be/SX4nCraO7Ys
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November 13, 2025 4:38pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360884674/kapa-kingi-claims-te-pati-maori-split-5050-after-expulsions

This article is the very definition of delusion and self-aggrandisement .
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November 13, 2025 5:24pm
Ghost

If the Supreme Court rules against the tariffs, trump is saying it will cost in excess of $2 trillion . Not sure the USA could survive a ruling against the tariffs now. Excess of $3 trillion
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November 13, 2025 5:30pm
Ian Boag

Overload? Wot? Is there someone with a gun at your head making you read them and agree with what they say. I’m pretty sure that all pollsters follow a basic set of rules … or you can just question their credibility because you don’t like the answer ….
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November 13, 2025 5:32pm
Scooter

Here’s an interesting read on Andrew Coster from 2020 when he started. Bells should have rung then.

Lots of little gems, like “he believes in tackling issues from within the force – sexual harassment”. He also believes that “it’s crucial that people (police he’s talking about) can bring themselves and their life experience to work” “we have to be careful not to squash that out of people”.

Maybe not so much in McSkimming’s case if you are a lying sexual deviant who likes watching kiddy/bestiality porn. But in a way maybe he has achieved those goals.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300003371/national-portrait-andrew-coster–top-cop
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November 13, 2025 6:22pm
Jack5

David Seymour speaking in Parliament today: NZ is one of the most sparsely populated countries in the world.

Fact: there are three dozen or so countries less densely populated than NZ, and that’s after excluding tiny spots like St Helena, Niue, and Pitcairn Island.

Obviously less densely populated countries than NZ include Australia, Canada, and Russia, but among others are Norway, Argentina, Finland, Algeria, and Mongolia.

We’re only a little less densely populated than Sweden and Brazil.

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-sparsely-populated-country
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November 13, 2025 7:32pm
Swifty

Martial arts wisdom:

https://x.com/jebrafaushay/status/1985844077494235167?s=46
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