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Chuck Bird

I wonder if the alarmists have a sense of humour.

The video is just 3 minutes.

I’m A Denier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F08dzQwO1LY
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November 22, 2025 8:02am
- David Garrett
  
  Very amusing Chuck
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:40am
- lastmanstanding
  
  The Hearld reports Labour and NZF are cosying up together. This is not surprising. It means Labour can cut the Maori Party lose regardless of the seats they may win although I suspect Labour will take most of them. I suspect the deal also includes Sir Winston being Prime Minister for at least half the term something he has always wanted.
  The good news is the Maori Party will be at best a noisy nothing and that Sir Winston will hopefully reign in the Greens and the Labour hard left from their extremist policies.
  Sadly the economy will go backwards with high inflation resulting from high Government borrowing and waste. Interest rates will rise. The poor ( Labours voters) will suffer the most with middle NZ struggling under the weight of interest rates and cost of living. The rich meantime will just keep in getting richers no matter what. And the dumb Left will scratch their arses and wonder why.
  
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  November 22, 2025 10:42am
  - Paulus
    
    If this happens will the Banks put up their Mortgage Rates and then my Term Deposits will rise again.
    
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    November 22, 2025 11:36am
  - keepcalmcarryon
    
    Here’s a thought:
    Winston the old liar would still be a better prime minister than insipid Luxon.
    Why don’t the Nats offer him 50% PM time to partner as well? Assuming the Nats are still the biggest party on the “right” which they may not be if course.
    Make a competition of it.
    
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    November 22, 2025 1:46pm
    - Quail
      
      KCC,
      No , never ever !
      Because no party could trust Peters !
      His political record is clear for all to see.
      MMP may allow these political charades but NZ wants and deserves much better, even principle’s and integrity!
      
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      November 22, 2025 6:11pm
    - wisteria
      
      The Prime Minister is far from insipid. What a pity more people don’t go and meet him before they make such silly statements.
      
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      November 22, 2025 6:47pm
PaulP

LOL, a journalist not doing their research. What a surprise!

How embarrassing. No convictions for 20 years. Yeah, because he was serving a 25 year sentence in USA.

And in that highly trusted Stuff platform too. Who would have thought.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360895459/man-who-applied-almost-8000-jobs-had-been-prison-us
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November 22, 2025 8:02am
- Swifty
  
  I think there were comments here that that story smelled off.
  
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  November 22, 2025 9:37am
- Ghost
  
  The reason you have that article is because stuff kept investigating him and his claims.
  
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  November 22, 2025 9:44am
  - Boy Geoff
    
    Possibly should have checked background first before publishing a headline such as applying for 8,000 jobs without success
    
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    November 22, 2025 9:50am
    - Ghost
      
      Perhaps they did, but then found out his crimes weren’t in NZ. The only reason this article exists is because they kept doing their job. It’s common for new information to come up after an article is published
      
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      November 22, 2025 9:54am
      - Boy Geoff
        
        I think we all know that over the coming year there will be many heartbreaking stories of unemployment, homelessness, racism, misogyny, poor health and other desolate misery. All will be laid at the present government’s feet.
        Some of these stories may have a grain of truth, others will be complete embellishments of the facts, others will be total fabrications… The fact checkers might not arrive until after the election date.
        
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        November 22, 2025 11:18am
  - Callum
    
    Not likely, that story reads like they were pulled up on publishing half a story and are trying to cover there asses. The update was dropped after 10pm on a Friday night, most likely to minimise views on it but so they can still claim they corrected it.
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:13am
  - rouppe
    
    How do you know this was because Stuff kept investigating, rather than someone else with more information, such as the FBI office here, having a quiet word with Stuff and providing more information.
    
    That is more likely given how rubbish Stuff are.
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:59am
    - Ghost
      
      Right, because the fbi office here would care about this, not. However they came about it, a tip or kept looking into it, they ran the article, corrected it. It was on the main page last night when it was published, but people will complain it isn’t today. Seriously some on here need to change their knickers and get a life
      
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      November 22, 2025 11:20am
      - Callum
        
        I mean they did dump it after 10pm on a Friday night and you cannot find it in the employment section it was tagged for while scrolling on a phone, even though older stories are right there. This is part of the reason for low trust in the media, 3 high profile stories run very prominently but the correction is virtually invisible by comparison.
        
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        November 22, 2025 11:57am
  - Swifty
    
    Or someone who knows him picked up the phone and rang Stuff.
    
    Or emailed them.
    
    Anyway, I’d reckon they were just handed this new info into their laps, no Woodward and Bernstein required.
    
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    November 22, 2025 11:00am
    - Colville
      
      Spot on.
      Someone who hates the guy dropped a dime.
      
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      November 22, 2025 1:06pm
- Callum
  
  Out of interest I tried to find this story on stuff, virtually impossible on a phone. Tagged as employment but go to that section and keep scrolling and it isn’t there. Website is the same, only place it is found is editors picks. Will be gone completely in a few hours I suspect. Why are these corrections not required to be published as widely as the original story?
  
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  November 22, 2025 10:37am
  - Mike
    
    Required by whom?
    
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    November 22, 2025 12:26pm
    - Callum
      
      I mean the appropriate authority would be the Media Council and you would expect corrections to follow the normal processes required due to a sucessful complaint when they fix a story that was this badly wrong.
      
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      November 22, 2025 1:15pm
      - Mike
        
        Do you think the Media Council should compel regulation of all NZ media?
        
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        November 22, 2025 2:41pm
      - Callum
        
        I think Stuff should follow the same process they would be required to for a sucessful complaint (which this would certainly have been if someone took it that far). The Media Council is the industry regulator and has been signed up to by Stuff to be bound by them.
        
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        November 22, 2025 3:01pm
      - Mike
        
        Stuff has a complaints process you could use if you wish. Other media outleta could do the same should they so wish.
        
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        November 22, 2025 4:22pm
Yvette

“Greed, avarice, and entitlement” – Te Pāti Māori president urges MPs to quit
Tamihere emphasised that Te Pāti Māori is a tikanga-based movement guided by ancestral wisdom.
• Te Pāti Māori president John Tamihere has told two MPs to “do the honourable thing” and quit Parliament … their conduct is not based on mana, is not based on integrity and honesty or on principle. Their conduct is based on greed, avarice and entitlement,” Tamihere wrote. 
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/577653/greed-avarice-and-entitlement-te-pati-maori-president-urges-mps-to-quit

Te Pāti Māori focuses on tikanga response after Kapa-Kingi allegations
• Tamihere: “Our ancestral intelligence gives us the opportunity to work through issues in a way that doesn’t look for heads on platters – that’s Pākehātanga.” 
https://waateanews.com/2025/10/13/te-pati-maori-focuses-on-tikanga-response-after-kapa-kingi-allegations/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

• [Te Pāti Māori] is not a political party with an affiliated social-services arm, but it is a vertically integrated political-business ecosystem. State funds flow into agencies Tamihere runs; staff circulate between the organisations; political operations piggyback off publicly funded structures; and governance lines blur to the point of invisibility.

The financials are striking. The Waipareira Trust’s most recent accounts show:
Net assets exceeding $104 million
Over $75 million in cash reserves
A 24% profit margin (higher than nearly all major commercial companies in the country)
Senior executive remuneration averaging $511,000 each, far above the Prime Minister’s salary
… The party is not funded by mass membership or grassroots fundraising. It is structurally dependent on the same state contracting architecture that funds the Waipareira empire.

That is the heart of the problem: TPM cannot attack a captured state when the captured state is its own operating model.
https://www.democracyproject.org.nz/p/democracy-briefing-why-te-pati-maori?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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Their conduct is based on greed, avarice and entitlement,” Tamihere wrote.
“What you despise in others is often what you yourself are best at”
It does no service to ‘tikanga’ for Tamihere to describe his actions as that.
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November 22, 2025 8:03am
- AitchW
  
  Oh the irony. The lack of self awareness is breathtaking.
  
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  November 22, 2025 10:36am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  The only reason that the Waipareira Trust can have a “profit” margin is that they have not delivered all the services that they were contracted for.
  
  MSD’s internal audit team should be all over them like a rash.
  
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  November 22, 2025 12:29pm
  - artemisia
    
    There would of course have been reasons quite a few longstanding community suppliers were fairly quietly dropped by the coalition government. For sure new contracts were tightened up, probably significantly wrt contracted outcomes and reporting against them.
    
    I recall seeing recent annual reports that looked fabulous, long lists of outcomes met. Until looking further many were reviews or consultations up and down the country – all achieved of course.
    
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    November 22, 2025 1:18pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

The lunatics at the Climate Change Commission want NZ to have net negative emissions. Thank God National have rejected this advice.

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/579625/government-quietly-rejects-advice-to-set-more-ambitious-net-negative-emissions-goal
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November 22, 2025 8:05am
- KKNZ2025
  
  New Zealand is a net carbon sink if everything that is not allowed to be included in the climate emissions calculations is included.
  “Within Australasia, Australia was a net source of 38.2 ± 75.8 TgC yr−1, and New Zealand was a net CO2 sink of −38.6 ± 13.4 TgC yr−1.”
  
  https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2023GB007845
  
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  November 22, 2025 9:48am
  - Paulus
    
    Oops !
    I am an ignoramus too.
    
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    November 22, 2025 1:47pm
- Southern Raider
  
  I’m not a scientist so have no way of verifying this myself
  
  But watched a video by an international scientist who claimed all the main models used to support climate change only include carbon sinks from land, but that the ocean is actually the biggest carbon sink due to plankton and isn’t counted. His view was net emissions are already at the targets.
  
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  November 22, 2025 11:14am
artemisia

‘Expression of kotahitanga’: More than 1000 schools reaffirm commitment to Te Tiriti o Waitangi

As of 21 November, 1007 schools have been added to Te Rārangi Rangatira, a growing list of public commitments made by boards, kura and principals’ associations across the motu.

Making the list public is a good thing. It will encourage public reporting of the academic achievement levels of those schools and how they rank against others. Parents who care about how their kids are doing will be very interested.

And succinctly from Hobson’s Pledge – Their message to the government is clear: “We’ll take your money, but not your rules.”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/579646/expression-of-kotahitanga-more-than-1000-schools-reaffirm-commitment-to-te-tiriti-o-waitangi
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November 22, 2025 8:06am
- Yvette
  
  Artemisia, it seems odd in this article that a fundamental point is apparently not addressed: like, 1000 schools out of a total of how many that could qualify to be in the list?
  
  According to Figure.NZ as of July 2024, there are 1,930 primary schools, 193 composite schools, 374 secondary schools, and 36 specialist schools in New Zealand.
  So 2,533 schools plus the 36 specialist schools — roughly 2,569 schools all told (though exact totals may vary with definitions).
  Other sources say “over 2,500 primary and secondary schools” in New Zealand.
  
  If “more than 1,000” schools have reaffirmed their commitment, that may be around 40% or more of all schools – depending on which schools are eligible or counted.
  So the move is significant but not universal.
  
  So alternate headlines could be –
  • No a sweeping national mandate
  • Well less than half of New Zealand Schools support Treaty
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:12am
  - CJames
    
    Yvette
    Do your numbers include Kura and Kohanga Reo? I suspect they would have signed.
    
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    November 22, 2025 11:16am
    - Flossie
      
      Which school is NOT a kura? Every single one I drive past has a sign with “Kura” first, and “School” underneath.
      
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      November 22, 2025 11:58am
      - Dougal10
        
        Mainly council signs telling you its a school around here , and I always thought kura was up the waitaki valley as I have mates that say they are from kura.
        
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        November 22, 2025 6:48pm
  - Paulus
    
    How many are now just pure Kura as they appear to be changing names in all signs on the property all the time to a Maori named Kura and not Primary Schools.
    I know of two near us who are fighting to stay what they have always been.
    
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    November 22, 2025 1:50pm
    - Jack5
      
      The drive to change “school” signs to “kura” has been driven by the NZ Transport Agency.
      
      Under the Coalition Agreement between NZ First and National, The Government ordered State departments to give priority to its English-language name, New Zealand Transport Agency.
      
      However, the agency still seems to be pushing the “kura” name.
      
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      November 22, 2025 2:39pm
- Cassandra
  
  Which just confirms that more than a thousand schools are run by racist idiots.
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:15am
  - Mike
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    No, it just confirms that many schools are governed by boards of trustees more responsive to their communities, exactly as intended by the ‘Tomorrow’s Schools’ reforms.
    
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    November 22, 2025 8:29am
    - Cassandra
      
      How could these schools have consulted their communities so quickly? It’s absolutely clear that they are, mostly, allies of ne or more of the left wing parties.
      
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      November 22, 2025 8:49am
      - Paulus
        
        They did not consult anybody but themselves.
        
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        November 22, 2025 1:53pm
    - Simon
      
      “just confirms that many schools are governed by boards of trustees more responsive to their communities,”
      
      Lol – the treaty garbage is to mask the appalling decline in educational achievement. Hide behind political slogans pushed by Ministry of Education and others who should all be out of a job.
      
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      November 22, 2025 8:55am
    - R
      
      ‘Tomorrow’s Schools ‘…another failed socialist labour policy. Look at the illiteracy and inumeracy within our communities now.
      
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      November 22, 2025 9:12am
      - Mike
        
        Yès, it is a failed policy. We should bring back the regional education boards and the small departnent of education
        
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        November 22, 2025 9:41am
    - Fender
      
      gee Mike you obviously haven’t met many school boards, a few people offer to help, with usually no experience and are overpowered by a couple, usually the principal and chair and a few activists.
      I think its a great list though because I would constantly refer to it when looking at funding new classrooms etc. It should be filed publicly so all parents can judge accordingly and move their children to where they feel fits. Hastings gets a bit difficult with only 2 Intermediates but still better to know who your school is run by. Funnily another Girls High school which lost massive support and roll over the last 7 years board has suddenly come out quietly and told marketing staff to focus on the white students suddenly to try and reverse the rumors and perception. Obviously this would be denied in public but I can assure you it is definitely being applied.At least schools are outed now with flags stuck in the ground. We can start to target our approach. It may even affect house prices with in school zones. Unintended consequences aye, what a bitch.
      
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      November 22, 2025 9:13am
    - peterwn
      
      It could be that the Boards do not want to take on their principals over this.
      
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      November 22, 2025 9:27am
      - Paulus
        
        Or the children’s Mothers.
        
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        November 22, 2025 1:54pm
  - Paulus
    
    Dare I ask of these kura which ones, and how may are lady Principals ?
    
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    November 22, 2025 8:34am
  - Ra Henare
    
    More correctly, Schools are run by politicians. ie School board trustees are elected.
    
    So they continue the National Political stance. ie wet liberals who want to be seen as inclusive (ie get more votes).
    
    The Government of the day via Ministry of Education could mandate the Government stance.
    
    Ie no play no pay.
    
    So at the moment, the whole schools “”decided”” PR campaign could wither on the vine when money(or lack of money) talks.
    
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    November 22, 2025 6:39pm
  - AitchW
    
    Or perhaps their boards can’t be bothered taking on the unions on a pointless argument.
    
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    November 22, 2025 6:43pm
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  Two things about this article amaze me. Firstly, it amazes me that “1000 schools” are unhappy that they can now choose whether or not they want to be “treaty-centric”, whereas before they were legally compelled to be. What is wrong with these people?
  
  Second, it amazes me that taxpayers are subsidizing Glenn McConnell to tell porkies. He states that Hobson’s Pledge “campaigns against indigenous rights”. No Glenn, HP campaigns against indigenous privilege and compulsory Maorification for all.
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:19am
- Hugh Jarse
  
  More union bullying anti government activity. Is it too much to expect the school boards would just focus on having their employees teach their children properly ?.
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:22am
- Scott
  
  This is what the govt is facing when dealing with Treaty and racial issues. There is quite a large group of people who are all in on Te Reo and want to see the Maorification of NZ. For many this is an ideology somewhat akin to a religion. When you use Maori words and show concern for Maori people this demonstrates “I am a good person”. “I am enlightened and tolerant and care for the marginalised and oppressed”.
  
  Now I don’t feel like that, but many people do and the National party has to be a home for those people too. That’s just the reality of National being a broad church party that has to gather 30% support. So Luxon is going to be like every other National Prime minister and not take on directly those issues.
  
  Lastly I would like someone in the Coalition to run on selling off Radio NZ and TVNZ. If you look at the link you’ll find fawning coverage of this issue. They reflect the worldview of the trendy lefty and never once stand up for traditional NZ. They should be sold in my opinion, while they are still worth something.
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:23am
  - R
    
    Perhaps the reason that the coalition isn’t selling these media, is because with their current ideology, THEY AREN’T WORTH ANYTHING on the commercial market!
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:27am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      No way of telling, without putting it to the test.
      
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      November 22, 2025 12:32pm
  - Cassandra
    
    Maorification and National should be incompatible.
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:41am
- Dudley Quaffquaff
  
  That’s actually a bit disappointing from Hobson’s Pledge, because it goes along with the media narrative that these schools are somehow being heroic and daring in standing up against an oppressive, tyrannical Government rule.
  
  All the Government has said is that schools don’t have to. That is completely different from “must not”. “Must not” would indeed be oppressive and tyrannical and I’d like to think, though without much expectation, that we would oppose a Government that tried to say that schools must not observe the principles of the Treaty.
  
  The most effective response to the news that “schools reaffirm their commitment to te tiriti” is “well, they can if they want. Next?”
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:24am
- pdm
  
  What is more arty.
  
  From the Teachers.
  
  `We want you to pay us much more than anyone else is getting but, we will still not obey your your rules.’
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:26am
- imalwaysright
  
  Sedition
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:39am
  - Mike
    
    I doubt you know the meaning of that word any more than Donald Trump does.
    
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    November 22, 2025 9:45am
    - Conservatarian
      
      Trump? I’ve heard of him via the day to day dumps and leaks of the Epstein files. He seems to be the only guy whom Jeffrey Epstein hates. Seems to be the guy against whom Epstein began funding and plotting with Democrats, for example, in 2019 by texting with his local Democrat Party congresswoman? Or when he was funding Hakeem Jeffries? You know, well after Epstein’s various convictions were widely known.
      
      I’m enjoying the Epstein files. Are you?
      
      Is that why Democrats have diverted to suggesting members of US military start disobeying illegal orders, but never actually saying what those illegal orders are or will be?
      
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      November 22, 2025 3:39pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    “Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech or organization, that tends toward rebellion against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent toward, or insurrection against, established authority.”
    
    What I know or don’t know is irrelevant, the definition is the definition.
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:37am
    - Dudley Quaffquaff
      
      Yes, but that is not what these schools are doing. They would be seditioning if that Government had said schools must not observe the Treaty. But the Government has not said that. They have said only that schools don’t have to. They can if they like, but they don’t have to. There’s no “established order” or “authority” in that.
      
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      November 22, 2025 12:11pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Good point Dudley. Thanks
        
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        November 22, 2025 12:47pm
      - keepcalmcarryon
        
        The sedition is the deliberate misrepresentation of the original treaty as a “partnership” and pushes for co governance.
        
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        November 22, 2025 2:06pm
      - Mike
        
        Also not sedition, that is, if you believe words have specific meanings.
        
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        November 22, 2025 2:45pm
      - kowtow
        
        And by any standards it’s not a ‘treaty’.
        
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        November 22, 2025 2:54pm
      - Mike
        
        Perhaps the Colonial Office was unaware of the definition of ‘treaty’.
        
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        November 22, 2025 4:26pm
- Mod88
  
  Is the list of these 1007 Schools not available. I can’t seem to find it. ???
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:41am
  - artemisia
    
    Tania Waikato’s Facebook page.
    
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    November 22, 2025 9:46am
    - JerJer
      
      This is mostly a lie (her Facebook page). There are a lot of useless Maori schools in this list so it is not surprising. But there are also a bunch of private schools on this list, even in Christchurch where Maori BS has never been a thing. They certainly won’t be supporting this now. So the list is about as true as all Māori supporting racist TPM when the real figure for TPM is about 40k radical Maori and about 40K stupid female 20 somethings that think bad people are cool. My kids high school starting next year is not on her list so at least she is not sullying the good name or all good schools.
      
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      November 22, 2025 3:01pm
- David Garrett
  
  Art: A minor point, but.do you find references to “the motu” annoying? It means Island FFS not the whole country
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:43am
  - Mike
    
    Please let us know the te reo word for islands.
    
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    November 22, 2025 8:49am
    - H. Upmann
      
      That word has not been invented yet. Have been too busy getting Motoka sorted.
      
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      November 22, 2025 9:37am
      - artemisia
        
        And waka topatopa.
        
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        November 22, 2025 10:39am
      - pdm
        
        We have all known since we were kids that `Meals on Wheels’ is kaitaia.
        
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        November 22, 2025 11:01am
      - Don Beckett
        
        The Islands = Nga motu.
        
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        November 22, 2025 11:25am
      - Gary Benner
        
        And car aerial = kotanga
        
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        November 22, 2025 1:10pm
    - David Garrett
      
      Kia ora…You have a point there I suppose
      
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      November 22, 2025 9:42am
  - artemisia
    
    Heh, I agree but it does serve a useful purpose as a red flag indicating a virtue signaller.
    
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    November 22, 2025 8:57am
    - David Garrett
      
      Yes, I guess there is that…
      
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      November 22, 2025 9:04am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    I appreciate that you were not asking me, but yes I find it annoying. It is an expression that seems to have arisen formerly being unknown to the English speaking world.
    
    Why do I find it annoying?
    
    Because mixing two languages causes stress and misunderstanding in readers who only understand one of the languages. For example I recently received an email from a colleague asking me how she could seek “pūtea” for her project. I literally thought to myself WTF. Then clicked on my Maori dictionary to translate her email.
    
    Of course the advocates for this practice are trying to force folk to learn the Maori language by progressively mixing it with English in larger quantities. I’m not sure that works.
    
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    November 22, 2025 9:15am
    - MCōs
      
      “mixing two languages causes stress and misunderstanding”
      One learns to live with it
      
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      November 22, 2025 9:19am
      - R
        
        One quickly learns to ignore the whole article!
        
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        November 22, 2025 10:29am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Mixing Maori words in English sentences bastardises both languages.
        
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        November 22, 2025 11:27am
      - MCōs
        
        English is fundamentally a bastardized language with many words derived from other parts of Europe.
        Around this house it is also mixed with Thai and a smattering of Maori when the family comes round.
        Fortunately we’re all open minded about these things.
        
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        November 22, 2025 1:57pm
      - Paulus
        
        But to be able to speak any language, even English you must be able to both speak it properly, and read and write same first.
        No wonder we have an educational and parentage problem.
        
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        November 22, 2025 1:58pm
      - Jake Dee
        
        That’s not the point.
        The point is “What’s the purpose of all this effort?”
        What’s going on here is the creation of a new dialect for the New Zealand Professional Managerial Class.
        It’s status signaling.
        It’s not new either, it’s a basic human desire to appear higher in the pecking order than you really are, particularly for people with status anxiety, which is never a nice thing to have.
        This has been going on all around the world all through out history.
        European scholars and intellectuals would learn Latin and Greek and drop it into local speech, the Nobility did the same with French. Then the middle class and peasantry would imitate them.
        But at least the scholars and nobility had a reasonable excuse, if you wanted a job in politics or the Church you needed to learn politics philosophy science and history so you learnt Latin, Greek and French.
        What passes for an intellectual in New Zealand today has no such excuse. There are no seriously important concepts that the English learnt from the Maori.
        
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        November 22, 2025 4:12pm
      - AitchW
        
        Mcos the problem I have is that while English is indisputably littered with words borrowed from other languages those borrowings occurred organically where there was no English word for the item or concept being described. For instance look at anorak, bungalow, or schadenfraud for instance.
        Here Maori words are being swapped in for words which already exactly describe the item or concept.
        Mahi for work, whanau for family, aroha for love.
        It’s simple virtue signalling and pointless.
        
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        November 22, 2025 4:56pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        Reminds me of days gone by when English literature was liberally sprinkled with latin or French phrases/words.
        
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        November 22, 2025 6:43pm
      - Christopher Thomson
        
        “Reminds me of days gone by when English literature was liberally sprinkled with latin or French phrases/words.”
        
        It still is, globally.
        
        Tell me, how many english speakers in the USA, Europe, or the subcontinent will understand the pidgin english that New Zealand is sinking into?
        
        Still, it’s appropriate we have pidign english, puts us on the same footing as all those other primitive, pacific island cultures that we are rapidly joining.
        
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        November 22, 2025 7:58pm
    - Ehlana
      
      You could tell your colleague you don’t know. Which is true – since you don’t know what putea is, you don’t know how she can get some. Google can probably tell her.
      
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      November 22, 2025 10:50am
      - Nikola Donatello
        
        If you are a public servant and did that, your career would be over.
        
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        November 22, 2025 11:30am
      - Handyman
        
        The word Putea is on every denomination of New Zealand currency.
        
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        November 22, 2025 3:44pm
    - rouppe
      
      For example I recently received an email from a colleague asking me how she could seek “pūtea” for her project. I literally thought to myself WTF. Then clicked on my Maori dictionary to translate her email.
      
      Hit reply. Type: “I do not understand what you are asking for. Since you are asking me for something can you please resubmit your enquiry in a language I understand, in order to avoid mistakes from misunderstanding”.
      
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      November 22, 2025 11:14am
      - Nikola Donatello
        
        To repeat, that would be career ending. Seriously.
        
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        November 22, 2025 1:01pm
      - Fender
        
        that would give them cause to find a stand against you, It would be better to actually reply with a whole lot of nonsense on a different topic, its not like they can complain as you were mistaking the meaning of the word which is quite likely or purely an accident. include a whole lot of slogan maori words that don’t really belong together and make any sense ie word soup. That would leave the author of the question none the wiser, slightly confused and would waste her time because she would have to go and find the answer herself but she couldn’t complain because you were doing the best that you can. They can complain if your English emails are nonsense but they can’t if you add so much maori that its all basically undecipherable because you were trying, bless bless.
        I would have great fun pretending I was actually trying to fit in with their ways but it would help pass the day to be silently sabotaging the whole thing.
        
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        November 22, 2025 1:06pm
    - kowtow
      
      It’s annoying , particularly , because it was part of the Ardernist Covid Scam theatrette daily party political showtime , popularised by her Covid Clowns propaganda drive .
      
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      November 22, 2025 12:42pm
      - Fender
        
        actually for someone like Nikola it would be a great game to pass the time,
        Find another workmate that thinks similar, have bets , say add one new obscure maori word a day to an email that no one has likely heard of, make them have to look it up, find a word and slightly mispell it so they have to look in dictionarys and try to work out whether it was a mistake or it has multiple meanings,they would soon get sick of it. copy stuff into chatgpt and just fire it off completely unchecked, oh sorry the translator must have got it wrong, I would use the uncertainty of the language to mess with people, misuse a few words out of context and double down till they start to doubt whether you are in fact correct. Work is supposed to be fun so have at it, anything as ambiguous as Maori is fair game for some mockery in my book. None of them will have the authority to know if your right or wrong. Putea comes up as a woven bag so take it literally, Be like Gliding On 2025.
        
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        November 22, 2025 7:26pm
    - Philview
      
      It is noticeable that English nouns are slowly being replaced with Maori nouns. It is a deliberate agenda to remove the English language.
      
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      November 22, 2025 1:35pm
      - Paulus
        
        Yes !
        
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        November 22, 2025 1:59pm
      - kowtow
        
        Ikea have an ad on the radio , I think it’s meant to be pretending to be a Swede female , but actually sounds AI. Anyway point is they refer to this country solely as ‘Aotearoa” .
        
        That’s damned rude. Besides there’s no such place. Legally .
        
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        November 22, 2025 2:57pm
      - Jake Dee
        
        No, it’s a deliberate agenda to create a new high status dialect.
        Nobody is trying to inject Maori into physics, biology and math etc. because nobody is going to get a higher status from it.
        
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        November 22, 2025 4:15pm
    - Jake Dee
      
      “I’m not sure that works.”
      I’m sure that it can’t possibly work, and I don’t even see the benefit of it if it could.
      But that’s not what’s really going on here.
      Many people who have adopted the current fashion of dropping Maori into there writings say that’s the reason, Lucy Rogers has said it explicitly, but that’s not their motivation, that’s a post-hoc rationalization.
      Their real motivation is status signaling. They show that they’re of a high caste than you.
      If it was a serious intellectual linguistic program to encourage bilingualism then they would have a serious intellectual linguistic explanation about how it works and how long it’s going to take.
      Are we supposed to increase Maori terms by 5% every 10 years, starting with nouns, then verbs, then adjectives and conjunctives until in 100 years or so the whole nation flips into being 100% fluent in both Maori and English?
      That’s Nuts.
      There’s a reason why nobody has laid out a detailed plan like that, it’s that nobody is serious about doing something like that because it’s so obviously nuts.
      The program of dropping in Maori terms works well for these people right now, they enjoy feeling and being seen as highly enlightened and very important people.
      
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      November 22, 2025 3:58pm
    - lifesgood
      
      You should have returned the email and asked for an English version. We’ve got to stop these virtue signaling clowns.
      
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      November 22, 2025 4:03pm
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    If you’re going “across the motu”, you’d better have excellent river crossing technique. That awa has claimed many lives.
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:42am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Until you get to ‘te awa mutu’ 🙂
      
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      November 22, 2025 11:28am
- Inandout
  
  art, Luxon folded over Seymour’s member’s bill and once the Maori faction sensed weakness they struck. Expect more of the same next year.
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:49am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    What was Seymour’s members bill? I don’t recall one.
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:25am
- Simon
  
  The genesis of this political nonsense in state schools was the Key National govt. January 2012
  
  “The New Zealand Curriculum (NZC) (which underpins most state schools) formally included the Treaty of Waitangi as one of its foundation principles. By January 2012 it was reaffirmed in curriculum guidance that schools should “give effect” to the Treaty principle, including partnership, protection, and participation.”
  
  Given the appalling decline in educational standards all those responsible should be driving buses or cleaning. Instead National sits back and lets them call the shots including accusing National of being racists.
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:49am
  - Wandering Star
    
    There’s a tendency on KB to reflexively blame “the left” or Labour governments for policies or ideas that were either implemented by “the right” or National governments or, if not so implemented, then never rolled-back, repudiated or repealed when the opportunity presented itself.
    
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    November 22, 2025 12:14pm
    - Pope Punctilious II
      
      Too true. A core responsibility of a right-wing government is to repeal the impractical rubbish brought in by the previous left-wing administration, and to bed in or refine the occasional good idea that they had.
      
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      November 22, 2025 1:30pm
- Philview
  
  The Government said it should be a voluntary commitment to the Treaty from schools so the media are misrepresenting the facts by calling this some kind of push back.
  
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  November 22, 2025 9:00am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    “be a voluntary commitment to the Treaty”
    
    The government is saying no such thing.
    
    The Minister has clearly said that school boards are not required to uphold the Treaty. Such a notion is a nonsense.
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:27am
- sirknz
  
  Not sure what the schools are trying to prove here, they are still allowed to teach the treaty, it is just that there is no requirement for them to make it front and center here.
  
  They are supposed to prioritise kids achievement over everything else, the sort of thing I would expect a school to be doing as a matter of course.
  
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  November 22, 2025 9:09am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    You are misunderstanding the change.
    
    Schools are REQUIRED to teach children about the Treaty. It is part of the curriculum.
    
    That is quite different to requiring schools to give effect to the Treaty as a treaty partner. The Minister has said that is the role of the government.
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:30am
- Nikola Donatello
  
  My question, which the article does not answer.
  
  How does removing the obligation on boards to uphold the Treaty change the operations of the school? Do they have actual, detailed examples of how teaching and learning will be adversely affected? By “examples” I don’t mean slogans or word salad.
  
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  November 22, 2025 9:20am
  - Swifty
    
    I’d love to know, in practical terms, exactly what ‘giving effect’ to the Treaty means for the average school.
    
    What exactly will that involve, what effort, what resourcing, what costs, what measurable outcomes, what cheques will be written to the local hapu etc etc.
    
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    November 22, 2025 11:07am
    - artemisia
      
      Swifty, they are good questions for parents and other interested parties to ask the Board.
      
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      November 23, 2025 6:32am
- AitchW
  
  Wow, the teacher unions have been busy.
  
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  November 22, 2025 10:37am
  - kowtow
    
    Pity they’re not busy doing their duty to teach pupils .
    
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    November 22, 2025 12:47pm
    - AitchW
      
      They see their duty as removing the current government.
      Students come a long, long way behind that.
      
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      November 22, 2025 4:59pm
- Yvette
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/579646/expression-of-kotahitanga-more-than-1000-schools-reaffirm-commitment-to-te-tiriti-o-waitangi
  No one seems to have commented on Lawyer Tania Waikato, who is the driving force behind this whole deal.
  She is the one quoted at considerable length, and Trojan Hoses the entire RNZ article.
  
  Lawyer Tania Waikato, who is collating the statements and publicly sharing the list, said the surge of support from kura sends a clear message.
  “Everything this government is doing to try and remove Te Tiriti from that conversation is being resisted.”
  She said the response shows a “grassroots backlash” to the change.
  “It’s totally organic. It’s not being led by any particular person or movement. It is a wonderful expression of kotahitanga.”
  
  Tania Waikato
  • A prominent Māori lawyer (Ngāti Awa, Tūhoe, Ngāti Tūwharetoa, etc) with over 20 years’ experience.
  • Actively involved in Māori rights and Treaty (Te Tiriti) advocacy.
  • She’s helped mobilise public submissions on legislation (eg the Regulatory Standards Bill) via social media.
  • She has also worked in significant political-legal moments: for example, she was counsel alongside Chris Finlayson for Te Pāti Māori MPs when they performed a haka in Parliament in protest – interrupting a vote, after Chloe Swarbick had already interrupted it three times
  
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  November 22, 2025 10:43am
  - Mike
    
    Are Trojan Hoses extra long Trojans?
    
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    November 22, 2025 12:29pm
  - Paulus
    
    Who is paying her ?
    
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    November 22, 2025 2:02pm
- pb
  
  Forgetful Fabians have put themselves on a list. Screaming banzai in their rush to victory is not how it works. Dumb.
  
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  November 22, 2025 12:56pm
  - artemisia
    
    Exactly. Smart prospective parents will be checking The List for academic achievement. Used to be called white flight, nowadays not such a good fit with demographic changes.
    
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    November 22, 2025 4:24pm
Chuck Bird

It appears there are more dodgy senior cops than Jevon McSkimming

Senior Auckland detective under investigation over alleged objectionable material

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/senior-auckland-detective-under-investigation-over-alleged-objectionable-material/premium/OHVU6PUKNFAQ7LVZ52HVN656M4/
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November 22, 2025 8:18am
- Observer of Life
  
  Paywalled.
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:34am
- Paulus
  
  Why at their pay rates do they not but their own laptops ?
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:35am
  - sirknz
    
    Two reasons I can think of are;
    
    1. They aren’t that bright. I have always told people when giving them IT equipment at work that it is a work device, don’t do dodgy stuff on it.
    
    2. I suspect that the Police network is accessing objectionable material all the time and there isn’t really any easy way for the people monitoring this sort of thing to identify what is legit and what is someone getting their jollies.
    
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    November 22, 2025 9:00am
    - R
      
      Your point 2 is probably correct. We don’t know how many police are in the section researching Offensive Material. Can’t be several hundred surely?
      
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      November 22, 2025 10:35am
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      How many police monitor objectionable material?surely it is tiny.
      
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      November 22, 2025 11:47am
  - Philview
    
    At their pay rates how do they have time to watch porn at work! It used to be the case that high pay rates were related to hard work.
    
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    November 22, 2025 9:11am
  - MCōs
    
    You mean oogle at the photos on his personal device while nobody is looking?
    
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    November 22, 2025 9:25am
- Souvlaki
  
  How long do the police retain the hard drives of previous employees…….?
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:39am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    I hope they are thoroughly wiped before being returned to the leasor or on sold.
    
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    November 22, 2025 9:06am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    Few if any agencies store data on “hard drives” these days. It is all cloud based.
    
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    November 22, 2025 9:50am
- Burtland
  
  can they be trusted to use a gun without self injury ?
  
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  November 22, 2025 9:02am
  - Christopher Thomson
    
    No, there is evidence in support of that answer.
    
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    November 22, 2025 12:32pm
- Ghost
  
  An important part of this article
  
  “Some of the staff being investigated may have had legitimate purposes for accessing material, which we will verify through our enquiries.”
  
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  November 22, 2025 9:30am
- Nikola Donatello
  
  It is pay walled.
  
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  November 22, 2025 10:30am
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRF1fjMjVD4
Is Winston getting ready for Labour?
I hope not. It’d be a major deal breaker. Meanwhile Labour love them some LGBGTWTF, and puberty blockers.
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November 22, 2025 8:25am
- MCōs
  
  Maybe National is gearing up to dump Act. This commentary from the always interesting Richard Harman is worth a listen
  He also has some interesting views on a Nat leadership change
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday/audio/2019013809/rising-tensions-nz-first-vs-act
  
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  November 22, 2025 10:20am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    Personally I think that Chris Bishop would be a better Prime Minister.
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:32am
    - rouppe
      
      Why?
      
      My view is you should have very effective people doing the change work. Chris Bishop and Erica Stanford for example.
      
      If you made one of them prime minister, the work they do in infrastructure or education respectively gets dropped because the next person isn’t as effective.
      
      A good leader trusts and empowers their team leaders to do good work. Luxon is doing that reasonably well. What he’s not doing well is setting out the vision, and he’s not getting less effective ministers more productive.
      
      Dragging out the climate nonsense when it won’t achieve anything measurable, and race relations are two examples.
      
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      November 22, 2025 11:24am
    - Philview
      
      I like Chris Bishop but the role of being PM is also representing New Zealand on the international stage. To my mind Chris Luxon has done a good job in that capacity. He has also managed the Coalition Government well. There are a lot of skills Chris Bishop is untested on. How would he cope with the NZ media trying to undermine and destroy him. Chris Luxon needs to stay on as leader for this election.
      
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      November 22, 2025 12:02pm
      - Nikola Donatello
        
        Yes perhaps you are correct. I agree about his effectiveness globally. Compare him in that role to Hipkins. 😩
        
        I am disappointed on two fronts.
        
        His refusal to drive more radical economic reform.
        
        His refusal to support the Treaty Principles Bill.
        
        … But maybe I am asking the impossible. It is now quite possible that the current government will be the best I see for the remainder of my life. Here is what I am sure of. I will see a much, much, worse government in the rest of my life.
        
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        November 22, 2025 12:51pm
      - Sponge
        
        “I like Chris Bishop but the role of being PM is also representing New Zealand on the international stage.”
        
        My problem with Bishop representing NZ on the world stage is that he usually looks like he’s been sleeping rough.
        
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        November 22, 2025 12:53pm
      - Flossie
        
        If there is any serious consideration being given to Chris Bishop as National’s leader then someone should employ a stylist to improve his image. That someone could be a family member, his office staff, or maybe the National party has the appropriate person.
        We shouldn’t judge on looks, but we do.
        
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        November 22, 2025 1:32pm
      - MCōs
        
        Just not the people, if any, the Argentinian bloke uses.
        
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        November 22, 2025 1:39pm
    - Hugh Jarse
      
      Why ? – Bishop and Stanford are effective Ministers but neither have the experience at this stage to be PMs. The media will hook into whoever is appointed just as they have with Luxon, especially with Bishops texting issue of a few years ago. The only winners out of a destabilisation of National with a change of leadership at this stage will be the left wing. Muller all over again and kiss goodbye to the 2026 election, you can see the game plan.
      
      You could hear the glee in HDPAs voice yesterday when she was building up for the interview with Hooten but I think she got such a shit response from the listeners on Hooten’s credibility and standing she was very quiet when she did the interview.
      
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      November 22, 2025 4:37pm
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    And who would Nats go with if they dumped ACT?
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:48am
  - David Garrett
    
    MCos: That is an utterly stupid suggestion: ACT and the Nats are natural partners – as witnessed by the Nats throwing ACT the Epsom lifeline for years. While they can work with NZF – as they have been – those two parties are not natural partners, especially while The Great Charlatan continues to draw breath.
    
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    November 22, 2025 1:27pm
    - MCōs
      
      Drop a note to Richard Harman . . . .
      
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      November 22, 2025 1:42pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkpirSd19s0
The Secretary Of Education Stuns A Room Full Of Reporters.
People were’nt sure how returning education funding to the states would work. So, the Secretary turned up to explain it.
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November 22, 2025 8:25am
- Ra Henare
  
  This is USA NOT NZ
  
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  November 22, 2025 6:50pm
sirknz

This popped up just after 10pm on Stuff last night.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360895459/man-who-applied-almost-8000-jobs-had-been-prison-us

Turns out the sob story about redemption and forgiveness for the guy who had applied for 8k jobs without getting one, which many at the time thought was a bit fishy, was being a little bit loose with the truth. While technically true that he hadn’t been in prison in NZ for nearly 30 years, he was in prison in the USA for 20 years of that time.

Stuff and fact checking seem to go together like milk and orange juice.
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November 22, 2025 9:04am
- JackRabbit
  
  If Stuff were unbiased, they would have been dragging up Ardern’s background which was far more recent than this guy’s. That she was a militant Marxist. It should have been all over the news prior to the 2017 election.
  
  Stuff and unbiased fact checking seem to go together like milk and orange juice.
  
  Stuff and biased fact checking seem to go together like back-hardens and pocket pissing.
  
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  November 22, 2025 11:10am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Finally, Radio NZ admits that the boarding school pupils kidnapped in Nigeria by gunmen are Christians.

They can’t yet bring themselves to acknowledge that the gunmen are likely Boko Haram.

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/579667/gunmen-kidnap-catholic-school-students-in-nigeria-s-latest-attack
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November 22, 2025 9:13am
MCōs

I watched the first day of the Ashes yesterday and so far it hasn’t been an awful lot different than the corresponding game Oz v India at Perth last year, which the latter won, but lost the series 3-1.
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November 22, 2025 9:49am
- Raphael
  
  England 172 v Australia 123/9
  
  I wouldn’t be overly excited with those scores in a T20i, but for day 1 of a Test Match, they are awful.
  
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  November 22, 2025 10:14am
  - Northshoredoc
    
    Too much hit and giggle chasing money being played, the batsmen have forgotten how to play longer form cricket.
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:31am
    - pdm
      
      I agree 100% doc.
      
      Those players yesterday in both teams had no idea how to leave a ball or how to bat time.
      
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      November 22, 2025 11:08am
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      Northshoredoc, I love your use of the term “batsmen”. Batter is what I have around my fish.
      
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      November 22, 2025 11:46am
      - Nikola Donatello
        
        Fun fact. Female cricketers for a long time were called “batsmen”. Then woke happened 😕
        
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        November 22, 2025 11:51am
      - Aquarius
        
        And shouldn’t managers now be called personagers ?
        
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        November 22, 2025 3:26pm
      - AitchW
        
        The ICC succumbed to woke a couple of years back and officially changed the gender neutral term “batsman” to the dreadful “batter” a couple of years ago.
        Cricket, in my opinion, is the poorer for it.
        
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        November 22, 2025 5:22pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        Of course there should be a personbate(Mandate), personliness(Manliness).
        Perhaps manager can only be used when gering men. Otherwise we revert to personger.
        
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        November 22, 2025 6:55pm
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      I did not watch any of the match. However the pitch at Perth does have a reputation for being somewhat unique.
      
      Both teams have players who are quite capable of batting for a long time and making high scores.
      
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      November 22, 2025 11:53am
    - AitchW
      
      Bazball is very entertaining when it works. When it doesn’t and wickets fall quickly and cheaply it’s awful.
      
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      November 22, 2025 5:19pm
  - MCōs
    
    Last year first day was worse 150 & 67-7
    At least yesterday England scored at a good clip.
    Btw
    Their last few wickets went down with such a clatter that Kwawaja, who had been off the field for a period of time, couldn’t open thereby upsetting the batting order.
    
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    November 22, 2025 10:32am
    - Prince
      
      Brilliant tactics from Stokes ?
      
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      November 22, 2025 11:51am
  - Prince
    
    Turns out England’s ODI prep for the Ashes was great preparation.
    They batted around 30-35 overs each game scoring 170-230.
    Not enough to beat us but good enough for the aging, injured, under-prepared Aussies.
    
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    November 22, 2025 11:49am
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      I predict that the aged under prepared Australians will comfortably win the series. The bookmakers agree.
      
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      November 22, 2025 1:04pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        The Aussies are already down two of their aging quicks. If the innings stay short, the five Pommie seamers can limit their workloads, reducing their chances of stress injury.
        
        Having said that, not all pitches will be as bouncy as Perth, and in Nathan Lyon the Aussies have the only decent spinner in either team.
        
        A terrific Test series is underway; hopefully at least some of them reach the fifth day.
        
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        November 22, 2025 1:57pm
    - Christopher Thomson
      
      At the rate the game is going it will be over today.
      
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      November 22, 2025 8:01pm
Southern Raider

Siouxie Wiles is on social media asking for funding support because apparently it’s Nationals fault all her research grants have dried up.

Maybe people just worked out she had nothing useful to contribute and taking her employer to court wasn’t the smartest move for a professional student?

FAFO
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November 22, 2025 11:09am
- Nikola Donatello
  
  Isn’t she a lecturer at Auckland university? Not a student.
  
  BTW as of this morning she has donations of $181,000 and still going up. 😕
  
  https://www.pledgeme.co.nz/projects/8521-support-dr-siouxsie-after-she-supported-us
  
  Clearly the wealthy elite love her still. 🤑🤡
  
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  November 22, 2025 11:58am
  - David Garrett
    
    Niko: I am literally speechless at the amount people are prepared to pay her.
    
    I do not know her lawyer, but I would 95% certain she would have explained the costs at every step to Dr Pink Hair, and the very real likelihood that whatever damages she was awarded could well be swallowed by costs – that is always a very real danger in employment matters (of which I have done literally hundreds when I was practising in New Zealand)
    
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    November 22, 2025 12:58pm
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      There are many folk who literally think that she saved thousands of lives. I’m not surprised.
      
      Despite personally choosing to be well vaccinated, and believing the vaccine to be both safer and effective, I vehemently opposed to mandates of any kind.
      
      Also remember that on election night 2020, she rejoiced at the Labour victory. The wealthy left elite are looking out now for one of their own.
      
      So no I am not surprised at the size of the donations. I doubt she will reach a million but high hundreds of thousands is looking quite possible.
      
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      November 22, 2025 1:10pm
      - wsk12345
        
        “Well vaccinated” is a strange term. Surely you are either vaccinated or you are not?
        
        Or is that different now they have changed the definition of vaccine?
        
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        November 22, 2025 6:04pm
  - lifesgood
    
    That will pretty much cover her hair dye, I suppose.
    
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    November 22, 2025 4:11pm
  - Dougal10
    
    Do people actually follow through on these pledge thingys.
    
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    November 22, 2025 8:00pm
- mandk
  
  That woman is utterly despicable, not least because she tried to cancel colleagues who don’t believe that matauranga Māori (i.e. folk wisdom) is science.
  
  It was interesting to read the other post today about how women are less tolerant than men.
  
  Wiles exemplifies intolerance.
  
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  November 22, 2025 12:20pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    The most poisonous animals advertise it with brightest colours. Humans too.
    
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    November 22, 2025 12:57pm
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    Yes I agree. Imagine bringing Rutherford back from the dead. What would he think of these “scientists”?
    
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    November 22, 2025 1:11pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      If Maori science could bring Rutherford back from the dead then it would get my attention
      
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      November 22, 2025 1:52pm
      - Mike
        
        Most Christian scientists believe in reincarnation.
        
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        November 22, 2025 4:58pm
      - AitchW
        
        Mike, no they don’t. Christian Scientists believe that man is made in God’s image and is, by definition, perfect. Sin is caused by the lack of belief in man’s perfection which allows Satan to make man less than perfect leading to sin, ill health and misfortune. The Christian Scientist that I knew was so sure in his belief that he never wore a seatbelt because his faith meant that Satan would never enter his life and allow him to be in a car crash.
        There is no tradition of reincarnation in Christian Science.
        
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        November 22, 2025 10:08pm
mogg

Poll after poll is showing that UK Tories will be obliterated at their next election, the latest showing that they will be reduced to having just 14 seats. Reform will have an outright majority of 46 seats.
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November 22, 2025 11:27am
- Wandering Star
  
  Then what will happen when Reform turn out to be just a superficial release valve for unignorable popular discontent, which they obviously are, who achieve no substantive “reform” and continue to advance the agenda entrenched interests?
  
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  November 22, 2025 11:47am
  - mandk
    
    At minimum, Reform’s achievement will be to teach Labour and the Tories that they can’t ride roughshod over the interests of ordinary people.
    
    Ordinary Brits have had a vast social experiment imposed upon them and, quite understandably, they have had enough.
    
    You can tell how rotten the state of British politics are when the ‘rights’ of trans people, sex criminals and illegal migrants are effectively superior to the rights of ordinary folk.
    
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    November 22, 2025 12:15pm
    - kowtow
      
      Reform have already achieved , with only a few MP’s , potentially more than any UK govt has in the last many decades .
      
      They have scared the current Labour govt into doing what could be very meaningful asylum reform.
      
      I’m amazed that te media haven’t dubbed this Labour govt “far right” , off the back of it.
      
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      November 22, 2025 12:59pm
    - Wandering Star
      
      Liberal democracy is the name for a particular set of ideological principles. It is not a process, or a neutral framework where significantly different ideas get a chance to hold sway if enough votes can be accumulated. Significantly different ideas tend to get suppressed filtered out long before they are presented to voters. That is how “consistency” is maintained.
      
      A feature of all liberal democracies is that political parties don’t set and drive the agenda – they just implement it. Money Power does. Anywhere and at any time, an elite rules a society. Previously it has been the warrior class, or the priest class; right now it is the merchants. “Democracy” is characteristic of rule by the monied class.
      
      When the public tire of one party, another gets substituted in. Repeat ad nauseum. But liberal democracy is always in power. To get true change transcending this cycle, liberal democracy has to go.
      
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      November 22, 2025 1:13pm
      - Mike
        
        Illiberal autocracy rulz ok?
        
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        November 22, 2025 2:05pm
- Philview
  
  The UK Tories delivered the biggest mass migration of people into the UK in the country’s many thousand years of history. They did it to manipulate an extra 1% or so of GDP.
  
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  November 22, 2025 11:50am
  - Paulus
    
    I thought that Tony Blair and QC wife kicked the immigration ball into the UK Net ?
    
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    November 22, 2025 2:08pm
- pb
  
  This a problem seen in ALL western countries during Covid, but it has bubbled away for decades. Banks demanded of the politicians that the line must go up. Small lizard brain only sees the line go up with more debt issuance. Hence they demanded more immigration. Human quantitative easing. Same in US. Same in UK. Same in Canada. Same in OZ. Same in NZ. Same in Europe. The people can burn as the line must go up.
  
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  November 22, 2025 1:41pm
mandk

The next election in NZ is likely to be about choosing between a good manager, with reasonable policies, but lacking in political skills, or a poor manager, with damaging policies, but political cunning.

The latter will be supported by the MSM, but NZ will be fucked if he wins.
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November 22, 2025 12:28pm
- Philview
  
  This Government’s biggest mistake has been to allow a subversive cabal of journalists to operate on behalf of an ideological agenda that isn’t in the best interests of New Zealand’s future.
  
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  November 22, 2025 1:24pm
  - AitchW
    
    The government has no control over who the media hire. And neither should it. Otherwise we’d only have Pravda….
    
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    November 22, 2025 5:15pm
Conservatarian

My favourite new item of Maorification is the apparent change in spelling of the name for the lower North Island province for which Palmerston North is the primary city.

It used to be called “Manawatu”, but of late Newstalk ZB seems to have added a macron to the “u” at the end of the name.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/211-heather-du-plessis-allan-d-24837940/episode/pete-chandler-midland-community-pharmacy-ceo-308347633/

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/search/?term=manawatu

I know how to spell the word, and yet some newly empowered Year Zero top down language extremist comes along and tells me and everyone else that we don’t know what we always knew.

I demand an inquiry.

Newstalk ZB is the only MSM I consume. I imagine $1tuff and RNZ, for example, caved into this long ago.
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November 22, 2025 1:00pm
- Aquarius
  
  Always amuses me that people who didn’t even have a written language can now tell me where a macron should go
  
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  November 22, 2025 3:22pm
Jethrod

What is the Herald up to today?
Ahhhh… the Horrid!
In the Harvey Norman section of the Herald (the wraparound portion of the Herald) there is a prominent headline saying “Strange Harmony – The growing links between NZFIRST and Labour” Placed on page 5 of the Harvey Herald, doesnt appear to be on the online Herald. Just more biased reporting by a Jamie Ensor, political editor, which goes with Thomas Coughlin, “The week the coup rumour went into overdrive”
The Herald really seems to want a change of government. It must want the pay for reporting deal that Liebour presented last time.
10, yes, ten pages of solid Harvey Norman ads in the first section of the Herald today, out of 30 pages. There is also some other advertising too, but not to that extent.
Is it a standby source of revenue until Liebour returns?
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November 22, 2025 1:17pm
- Paulus
  
  The BOP Times baby of NZME ia almost all Harvey Norman again and again
  – I suppose that HN get free advertising as the BOP Times would cease very quickly to exist outside Deaths and Marriages, and many people bitching all the time mostly the same people.
  
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  November 22, 2025 2:13pm
  - Jack5
    
    NZME’s Bay of Plenty Times could print a Maori-language edition in parallel to its English-language version, but instead pidginises English for the local Woke.
    
    If it’s to use Maori-language alphabet for place names in its English-language editions, logically it should also print “Moscow” as “Москва,” Beijing as “北京”, and “Nukuʻalofa” with the Tongan glottal stop sign.
    
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    November 22, 2025 2:53pm
    - Mike
      
      Perhaps you should campaign to make Russian, Chinese and Tongan official languages here. That might influence the editorial policies of the newspapers that upset you so much.
      
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      November 22, 2025 5:03pm
Swifty

Just what’s the world coming to when a judge can’t play Elvis songs in court, or don his favourite Elvis wig?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yq3g7lqgqo

Hell, we’ve got cowboy hat-wearing MPs in our Parliament who routinely break out into songs and even war dances and nobody bats an eye.
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November 22, 2025 1:54pm
- David Garrett
  
  Swifty: We could very much do with a similar body tasked with disipline and removal of Judges here.
  
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  November 22, 2025 6:37pm
  - Mike
    
    And some Kiwibloggers would be happy to elect judges here on the same basis as this Missouri larrikin.
    
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    November 22, 2025 6:46pm
Nikola Donatello

I had a slightly annoying police experience yesterday. I was pulled over for speeding. I was doing exactly 109 kmh on State Highway 1. Speed limit 100. Fine weather. Light traffic. The police officer was coming from the opposite direction so he did a U Turn to stop me.

Of course I broke the law. However I was a little surprised at how zealous he was. I was told “no tolerance stay at 100 or less”. Yeah sure.

So does that mean that I would have been stopped at 101 kmh? We know that 109 is a no. What about 107? Who knows?

Yes I have no defence in law. However, police need the goodwill of the public. Not sure this helps.

I live in the very far north of New Zealand. Some of the driving I see every day is shocking. This morning I was overtaken by someone at high speed on double yellow lines. I have to wonder what more the police could be doing to get such maniacs off the road.
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November 22, 2025 2:09pm
- muzled
  
  Some years back they bought in 104 as the ‘ticket’ limit over the holidays.
  
  After a few years that became the default ticket speed as far as I’m aware.
  
  104kmh is my open road speed now.
  
  Unless of course I’m driving to work on the South Western motorway at 6am where everyone does 110 minimum, and you’ll often find yourself being under and overtaken at speeds well above that.
  
  Very rarely a copper in sight of course.
  
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  November 22, 2025 3:22pm
- Steve Otto N Shore
  
  Police go where the money fines are – not the never paid fines.
  
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  November 22, 2025 5:56pm
- rouppe
  
  Two words.
  
  Cruise control.
  
  It’s saved me several times from inadvertently ending up speeding.
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:06pm
- Ghost
  
  Speed limit is 100, it’s not 105, it’s not 109. You are annoyed that the officer was doing his job and that you were breaking the speed limit, agree with rockape, suck it up. There is no goodwill needed by the police to let you speed.
  
  Perhaps instead of having a bitch that you got pulled over for getting a speeding, you can think of the people who died in car crashes this week. Perhaps you can think of the cops who have to go and tell some one that their loved one is dead. The ambulance officers who have to deal with the mess, the firemen that have to deal with the mess, the doctors and nurses that have to deal with the mess
  
  You got a ticket for speeding, grow up, and if you cannot follow the speed limit take a bus
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:28pm
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    You are being sanctimoniously aggressive.
    
    [ Mod – lighten up – we don’t need these chidish spats ]
    
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    November 22, 2025 9:09pm
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      You are still missing the point. Have you even read the omnibus reference I provided?
      
      To quote the OECD Secretariat..
      
      “However, the organization recognizes that enforcement practices must balance accuracy with public acceptance…..arbitrarily low speed limits with strict enforcement can produce noncompliance and public antagonism toward law enforcement.”
      
      You are showing yourself to be both aggressive and incapable of reasoned debate.
      
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      November 22, 2025 9:29pm
      - Ghost
        
        [ Mod – lighten up – you are not his mother ]
        
        There is nothing to debate. The speed limit is 100. You broke the speed limit.
        
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        November 22, 2025 10:03pm
      - Ghost
        
        Thank god for that, mod. But I am the person whose life was destroyed by a wanker who thought he had the right to speed. You know that knock on the door, you never forget it.
        
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        November 22, 2025 10:44pm
    - rouppe
      
      I wonder why it is that in such “spats” it is never Ghost who is admonished, as he is the main protagonist…
      
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      November 23, 2025 8:19am
rockape

So what. About 115, 120, 130? The limit is 100 and you were probably at 115 indicated. Suck it up sweetie.
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November 22, 2025 2:14pm
- Nikola Donatello
  
  WTF? I was doing exactly 109 kmh. I glanced at my GPS unit when I saw the flashing blue lights. It said 109. The police officer then said 109.
  
  You seem to have a written comprehension problem. I was not moving at “115, 120, 130”. Or 200. Or any other speed. 109.
  
  I am not disputing the illegality of the offence. I am engendering a debate about the zealousness of the policing.
  
  Thanks for your thoughtful contribution to the debate. 🙄
  
  Also you failed to nest your comment.
  
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  November 22, 2025 2:38pm
  - Mike
    
    What tolerance should apply to speed limits? What about other traffic rules or criminal offences?
    
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    November 22, 2025 2:50pm
    - Albie
      
      “What tolerances should apply”- Well, we could start with the discounts frequently applied to custodial sentences for starters.
      
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      November 22, 2025 3:21pm
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      “What tolerance should apply to speed limits?”
      
      That is my question. I submit that fining people for driving at 101 kmh is likely to cause the erosion of goodwill. People travelling at 114 kmh are asking for trouble. So it is somewhere in between those two numbers. That is my opinion.
      
      The law already recognises that not all speeding offences are of equal cause for concern.
      
      My speedometer is GPS based It is perfectly accurate. For most drivers with an analogue speedometer they cannot know if they are driving at 95, 100 or 105.
      
      Back in the real world, if the police tomorrow announced that anyone driving at 1 kmh over the speed limit were to be tracked relentlessly, there would be outrage. That tells me that 101 kmh is acceptable. I know that 109 is not acceptable. So what is the limit?
      
      The answer of course is that 100 is the limit. The question is whether it is in the interests of all of us to track down people marginally above 100. Doing so consumes police resources. In my view, those resources could be used to stop maniacally dangerous drivers. Where I live, I encounter these people frequently. One this morning.
      
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      November 22, 2025 3:29pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Every non-GPS speedo I have checked – admittedly maybe only 20-odd) read 5% high. So 105 on the clock is 100 on the road.
        
        As for a “formal tolerance” – that would just become the new limit with the same urge to be reasonable and put a tolerance on top. Basically the present system comes down to the cop’s discretion. We would probably all agree that 0.5 kph is a bit harsh and 20 kph is a bit OTT.
        
        Go figure
        
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        November 22, 2025 3:58pm
      - Mike
        
        I trust you note the registrations of such offenders and notify the police.
        
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        November 22, 2025 4:31pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        I have not heard of a car with a GPS speedo. What sort of car do you have?
        
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        November 22, 2025 8:06pm
      - Nikola Donatello
        
        “I trust you note the registrations of such offenders and notify the police.”
        
        No. That would be the job of a front seat passenger. But I don’t have one. I am busy driving the car and keeping my eyes on the road.
        
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        November 22, 2025 8:15pm
    - Steve Otto N Shore
      
      [Mod – debate the topic]
      
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      November 22, 2025 5:58pm
  - rockape
    
    And I was asking you what tolerance you think is acceptable or do you want me to do your thinking for you?
    
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    November 22, 2025 8:09pm
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      No you alleged that I was driving at 115 kmh. I therefore added you to my list of commenters to permanently ignore.
      
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      November 22, 2025 8:17pm
Sparrow

I have no idea how I came across this Facebook postings about an interview that Jacinda had with CNN. I thought bloggers here were a bit one eyed I offer my profuse apologies you are not in the same league as these Jacinda luvies. Utterly unbelievable the comments. I expect Jacinda must now walk on water and has solved world poverty. Next step must be Secretary General of the UN. Nothing can stop her doing all the rounds of the talk shows.
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November 22, 2025 4:02pm
Swifty

I do wonder at times just how long it’s going to be before great masses of New Zealanders wake up to the absolute lies they’ve been told of late.

You know, that Aotearoa is the Maori name for NZ, that trans-women are women, that the state setting pay rates without one party’s consent and calling it ‘fair pay’ or that Maori are indigenous to New Zealand – especially when they can hop on a plane and visit the place they emigrated from.

https://x.com/kiwilivesmatter/status/1992028224218665263?s=46
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November 22, 2025 4:39pm
- Nikola Donatello
  
  That makes no sense. The UN defines the meaning “indigenous”. Of course Maori are indigenous to New Zealand.
  
  https://www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/documents/5session_factsheet1.pdf?utm_source=perplexity
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:23pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

The COP30 climate activists can’t agree amongst themselves as to the wording of their final communique, to the point of whether even to mention the term “fossil fuels”. Reportedly, “there’s a lot of fighting”. Apparently, it’s about money. Twas ever thus.

So, the conference is going into overtime. However, many delegates are staying on cruise ships, which will up anchor on Saturday & set off down the Amazon. Uh-oh.

Will the climate warriors stand by their principles, to the point of joining the homeless on the mean streets of downtown Belem? Will the greedy you-owe-us crew trim their demands?

Tune in tomorrow, for the next exciting instalment of Fight Climate Change While Travelling The World (TM).

http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0q5ewew4geo
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November 22, 2025 4:42pm
- Nikola Donatello
  
  The people who can’t agree are not “activists”. I think you mean “the delegations representing governments cannot agree”. The delegations are simply expressing the views as instructed by governments.
  
  “Activists” are something else entirely.
  
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  November 22, 2025 8:32pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    No, Nikola, do not be deceived. Anyone attending COP30 is a climate activist. They vary only by whether they are self appointed or whether you & I pay their salary.
    
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    November 22, 2025 8:50pm
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      Sorry but true. I have attended three COP conferences. I am hardly a climate activist.
      
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      November 22, 2025 8:57pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360895702/don-mackinnon-lifts-lid-more-details-proposed-nz20-t20-cricket-league
I think that this is no more than a quick money-making exercise for a few cricket has-beens and sharks. Probably because the Super Smash will lose TV coverage next year and those involved are starting to panic.
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November 22, 2025 5:26pm
Quail

NZ cricket today.; Was watching until it became clear Maorification had taken that over too.
Sadly switched to the ashes test!
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November 22, 2025 6:30pm
Nikola Donatello

Just a note for cricket fans. I do not subscribe to Sky. However I discovered that the Ashes cricket series is broadcast free to air in Australia on the 7 network. It can be steamed. I created an account and I have the cricket to watch. Free.

Apologies if I am the last to discover this. 😃
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