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Chris Luxon is on the record that NZ is a much richer, more diverse place because of the Indian immigrants:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSlIbWxkncX/?igsh=MWNmNmlvMms4Mmh5dQ==

This is where I get frustrated with our leaders. Apparently NZ becomes a better place when there are more foreigners and less of us? This is where we find our leaders are all over social media celebrating Diwali but are conspicuous by their absence at Easter.

What if you liked NZ the way it was? What if you aren’t ashamed of being a white man? What if you don’t want to follow Europe and the UK and be replaced by thousands and thousands of foreigners? What if you are proud of your heritage and your history and the work of your ancestors?

This is why I’m not a liberal. Liberals will stand up for any culture and any peoples except their own.

I’d like a new breed of leaders to come through who believe in their country, who believe in their culture and are not ashamed of their ancestors. Globalism is a disaster in Europe and the UK. Do we have to repeat their mistakes? Surely not!?
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December 24, 2025 8:01am
- cmm
  
  “Do we have to repeat their mistakes?”
  Unfortunately we have. We are just not seeing all the symptoms yet.
  
  The foreigners I speak with (mainly various flavour of Indians and Afghanis) say that they have not left their tribalism behind and the ethno-religious tension is simmering: Sunni-vs-Shiite, Muslim vs Hindu vs Sikh. This adds an extra layer to all the Polynesian tensions we already have.
  
  That said, yes we do need foreigners. Go into any hospital and over 70% of the staff you encounter are foreigners.
  
  If you want goods delivered to your supermarket so you can eat, 70% of the drivers are foreigners (500-odd fraudulent Punjabi drivers included).
  
  However, that does not mean we need to just shut our eyes and open the floodgates.
  
  Disclaimer: I was a foreigner.
  
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  December 24, 2025 8:36am
  - Paulus
    
    Problems with such as staff at such as Hospitals and Drivers, it is hard work , and long hours, and New Zealanders do n0t like that even as we have one of the highest Minimum wages in the world.
    Remember the New Zealand Motto
    – She’ll be right !
    
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    December 24, 2025 8:44am
    - cmm
      
      Yup, the last two times I was in hospital (2022 and 2025) I had an interesting chat with the hospital porters wheeling me down to theatre.
      
      The first was a Filipino. It was his last week at the job. He had taken a hospital porter job in Australia for 50% more pay.
      
      In 2025 it was a Chinese bloke that has lived in NZ for 15 years. He wears a step counter and says he pushes beds for an average of 17 to 18km per day.
      
      Pushing beds is not brain surgery. There are hundreds of thousands of idle NZers that could easily do the job.
      
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      December 24, 2025 9:09am
      - zulumonster
        
        “Pushing beds is not brain surgery. There are hundreds of thousands of idle NZers that could easily do the job”
        Very true – and yet I suspect I would feel more comfortable being pushed by an immigrant from China or the Philippines than the majority of those idle NZ’ers
        
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        December 24, 2025 9:47am
      - CJames
        
        “There are hundreds of thousands of idle NZers that could easily do the job.” But you have to put in place a system that gets those NZers to do those jobs. That means getting them off welfare and into work. And half the voters don’t want a system that does that. The policy is no good if the party isn’t in government.
        So how do you get the soft left voters to realise that and change their vote to one of the coalition parties?
        
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        December 24, 2025 9:49am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        They are orderly’s, they do more than just push beds.
        
        Philippino nurses and doctors are possibly the best at the hospital, you can understand them better, Indians often are hard to understand
        
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        December 24, 2025 11:01am
      - [email protected]
        
        Over 400,000 working age people currently on the benefit/dole.
        
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        December 24, 2025 1:28pm
    - pdm
      
      `– She’ll be right !’
      
      Paulus I also remember the No8 wire philosophy.
      
      I am not sure either applies to New Zealand these days.
      
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      December 24, 2025 9:11am
      - R
        
        -she’ll be right!’, became the nation’s mantra when the No8 wire philosophy became to difficult and required a bit of practical knowledge.
        
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        December 24, 2025 10:39am
      - Quail
        
        No 8 wire philosophies are not wanted or allowed in this country today!
        
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        December 24, 2025 10:51am
      - Don Beckett
        
        No.8 wire mentalities are too “Bloke” for today’s Woke. 🙂
        
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        December 24, 2025 11:30am
    - James
      
      Well, she used to be right !
      
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      December 24, 2025 11:29am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Now she’s Left.
        
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        December 24, 2025 12:29pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    It’s for NZ to train its people to do the jobs that are needed. If the trucking companies need more drivers then they should train them. If that means paying drivers more then pay them more. If that means higher prices, so be it.
    
    The government can do its bit by making it tougher to get the unemployment benefit, long term.
    
    To be clear, I’m talking about low skill, low education jobs here.
    
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    December 24, 2025 9:03am
    - Ian Boag
      
      If the trucking companies need more drivers then they should train them
      
      FWIW it costs about $2k to do a truck driving course
      
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      December 24, 2025 9:22am
      - rouppe
        
        Not being in that industry, I’d hazard that $2000 is chicken feed for a company that has to fund diesel fuel, maintenance and vehicle plant.
        
        They’re also then in complete control of the standards and expectations set for their drivers.
        
        So why don’t they do it? Assuming they don’t…
        
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        December 24, 2025 10:03am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        It costs more than that, it’s upwards of 4 k, and once you have class 5 you can not drive on your own for 6 months, who pays for that driver to sit beside the new driver when you can’t get class 5 drivers?
        
        2 k course will be for class 4 which is not trailer which is not what companies need for freight.
        
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        December 24, 2025 11:16am
      - SoloView
        
        @ roupe
        
        Many freight forwarding firms use a high percentage of owner drivers.
        
        So driver training, maintaining a fleet, road user charges, fuel etc are not the firms problems.
        
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        December 24, 2025 12:53pm
    - R
      
      ‘making it tougher to get….unfortunately as we saw at the 2021 election, over half the people don’t want ‘TOUGHER’, and will vote the same way again if a responsible party proposes ‘WORKING FOR A LIFESTYLE’ as a political option.
      
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      December 24, 2025 10:44am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I pointed this out earlier in the week, it’s not just a matter of training someone, class 5 truck snd trailer drivers do not grow on trees and do not just get trained. It takes a long time to be experienced enough to drive in assisted as a class 5 driver.
      
      I also point out that Stright NZ needs more than 100 class 5 drivers on mass, you simply can not train that.
      
      All the drug and trailer crashes are caused by relief drivers and they are crashing because they are not experienced in steep terrain or places like the Lindy’s pass, young NZers refuse to do the 13-14 hour day, they refuse to o ok at the upward cost of 4 k to get the licence, even though if unemployed Winx will lend you the money to pay for the lessons and licence which is way over the 4 k.
      
      Intelligent people should put a bit more thought into what they post, because much of what I read on here is crap, and a small bit of homework would help people before posting crap. Just like the crap yesterday about immigrants with this great trade deal with India, where people weee saying open immigration for Indians, that has been stated by McClay to be absolute bullshit, and as he said the work visa is a 2 way ticket
      
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      December 24, 2025 11:13am
      - I remember when
        
        In the 2023 Census Indians were the 3rd largest ethnic group.
        The total being 292,092, being up from 155,00 in 2011.
        Projected population by 2048 is 772,000+ which presumably doesn’t include any impact from trade deals.
        When considering the outcomes from clashes of Hindu, Sikh, Christian and Muslim……
        do Protestant pupils still thrown stones at their Catholic school rivals?
        
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        December 24, 2025 12:25pm
- Nikola Donatello
  
  I am sure that there are excellent Indian migrants. However I simply do not understand how we have so many clearly low skilled Indian immigrants. The ones in petrol stations and liquor stores for example. One thing we do have in abundance is low skilled young people of our own. We don’t need to import more of them.
  
  Back to your question. Sadly New Zealand is not the way it was for two reasons. Firstly birth rates are way below replacement levels. We are not as low as many countries but low. Also the women who are having babies are disproportionately not white women. Secondly, and New Zealand is unusual here, ever increasing numbers of skilled people are leaving.
  
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  December 24, 2025 8:39am
  - cmm
    
    Perhaps the reason skilled people are leaving is because we have a policy of replacing quality with quantity.
    
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    December 24, 2025 8:42am
    - Nikola Donatello
      
      Perhaps, but we know that there are other drivers. Money and the economy.
      
      Also, it is not until I leave New Zealand that I realise how oppressive is the constant Treaty / Maori grievance / Te Reo troika. I am sure that is a factor driving people away. Not sure how it ranks. I would guess it ranks second next to better economic, financial and job opportunities.
      
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      December 24, 2025 8:52am
      - cmm
        
        I don’t think you can really parse out the Maori stuff vs economics vs job opportunities. They are all inextricably intertwined.
        
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        December 24, 2025 8:55am
      - kowtow
        
        Oddly enough , 20-30 odd years ago our media party were quite prepared to report that many Maoris migrated to Australia to escape the tribalism etc
        
        How things have changed , with our media , that is.
        
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        December 24, 2025 9:10am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    Edit. Why can’t we run a campaign in South Africa for skilled South Africans who want to escape the implosion there? Or are there none left?
    
    I went to a new optometrist last week. A South African woman. She was far and away the most pleasant and thorough optometrist I have ever seen. She was clearly highly trained. More immigrants like her please.
    
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    December 24, 2025 8:47am
    - cmm
      
      Are there none left?
      I think there are extremely few left that both want to leave and have the opportunity to do so (ie. are high value individuals).
      
      There are some competent people in South Africa, but those I know are completely committed to staying there. If you’re wealthy and can insulate yourself from the rest of society (private schools, private hospitals, high security living, etc etc) then SA can still be a very pleasant place to live.
      
      That is likely to change if/when South Africa goes through its second revolution.
      
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      December 24, 2025 9:02am
      - Nikola Donatello
        
        I was chatting to the optometrist. She has been here for ten years so well settled. She told me that her husband was a pilot in the air force. She said everything fell to pieces when the airforce was forced to employ aviation mechanics and other support staff who, let’s say, did not know what they were doing. Piloting a military airplane maintained by unqualified mechanics did not appeal so he left.
        
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        December 24, 2025 9:18am
      - wsk12345
        
        The woman who runs our local dementia centre is South African. She and her husband (engineer) and teens have been here ~5 years. Last year she confided that they may have to leave for Aussie – she desperately wanted to stay here where they had made a life but they could not meet the required residency or visa requirements despite going through the process over a period of several years. Husband had been offered a job in Aussie which gave them the residency they could not get here. And these are exactly the kind of people we should be bending over backwards for. Thankfully when we spoke recently she was delighted that they had got approved for whatever it was they needed and were staying.
        
        and this at a time when we are welcoming unskilled people from a culture that will not assimilate nor in many cases contribute anything that kiwis cannot.
        
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        December 24, 2025 10:23am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      We should prioritise people who come from countries that have a similar culture to our own – and when I say our own, I mean NZ and not Aotearoa. I mean people who believe in the rule of law, and queuing. I mean people who don’t see residency as a beachhead, to subsequently bring in extended family or fellow villagers. I mean people who will not exploit later immigrants from their country of origin. Who won’t cram vast numbers into houses never designed for that number. Who don’t drag NZ’s good name through the mud, internationally. Who come from countries where it’s understood that a high trust society is not to be rorted, just because it’s possible.
      
      All of these virtues describe people who will contribute to the common weal and not be a drain on us, the people who permitted them to live among us.
      
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      December 24, 2025 9:18am
      - R
        
        You are highlighting a MORAL COMPASS problem at immigrant, AND bureacracy level
        
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        December 24, 2025 11:00am
    - rouppe
      
      When my father emigrated from post war Netherlands in 1952 that is precisely the filter the NZ immigration department applied. White, educated, able bodied, able to speak English. Hired into a job they had skill requirements for.
      
      Having criteria like that is very out of fashion now.
      
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      December 24, 2025 10:08am
      - R
        
        YEP! DEI… is much more important than competence.
        
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        December 24, 2025 10:50am
      - slijmbal
        
        I only got in because of my qualifications, experience in a scarce industry, sufficient funds, proving I was healthy, under a certain age and a job offer here in NZ.
        
        FYI in 35 years paid huge amounts of tax , employed people and never claimed the dole.
        
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        December 24, 2025 5:25pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      They have done, there was a huge amount of truck drivers who came here from SA about 10 years ago, and also diesel mechanics, don’t say no, as we have had both at work in that 10 years
      
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      December 24, 2025 11:27am
    - Paulus
      
      My two hearing Aid professionals are one from and trained to MA level in Delhi and the other similarly in Mumbai.
      Lovely professional well dressed and spoken lovely young women.
      
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      December 24, 2025 1:55pm
  - MCōs
    
    When I had cancer a couple of years ago I saw maybe four different hematologists. A couple of Chinese an Indian and a pakeha, from memory. That was my observation, but it wasn’t important just as long as they knew their business.
    The doctors controlled the chemotherapy and the nurses who administered the medication were mainly Filipino.
    I wouldn’t have minded a few Indians. Invariably you can strike up an animated conversation about cricket with just about any Indian
    
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    December 24, 2025 9:16am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Medical specialists. Truck drivers.
      
      One of these things is not like the other.
      
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      December 24, 2025 9:19am
      - burt
        
        Medical specialists. Truck drivers.
        
        One of these things is not like the other.
        
        Correct, one of those groups needs to take responsibility and have insurance. If they mess up they need to compensate the people they negatively impact and their insurance will get more expensive and/or become unavailable forcing them out of work.
        
        The other, they can’t be sued, have no actual responsibility for any harm they cause as ACC just steps in to look after any people their actions negatively impact.
        
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        December 24, 2025 12:59pm
    - CJames
      
      That was my experience when I was treated for cancer – this included nearly a month in an isolation room. All of the staff were both competent and friendly. I did not mind where they came from, just that they could do their job. They did that.
      I did note that as I was the hematologist’s star patient, I saw a lot of training doctors with her on the rounds. Though they would all have been from NZ universities, many were not what could be described as white or Maori NZers.
      
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      December 24, 2025 9:56am
    - PurplePen
      
      it doesn’t matter where they’re from what matters is if we’re no longer able to be ourselves because they start putting demands on us or find something that we do offensive and want it changed. I don’t see that has happened here yet and I hope it never will. the other point that matters is that they have the same set of values that we have is someone else has pointed out earlier.
      
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      December 24, 2025 4:37pm
  - Wandering Star
    
    “Firstly birth rates are way below replacement levels ….. Also the women who are having babies are disproportionately not white women.”
    
    In other words, feminism and mass non-White immigration (where the non-White women are not feminists). In other words, “sexism” and “racism” are desperately needed – if only we didn’t give political words more power than they deserve and allow ourselves to be directed in demonstrably undesirable directions.
    
    Think about it: we are experiencing radical demographic change and attendant population replacement (i.e. destroying ourselves) just because we refuse to reject warm and fuzzy-sounding progressive ideologies.
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:26am
    - R
      
      One of your more accurate observations WS. Feminism has a lot to answer for in NZ, and western world in general. Brains not our bodies was the mantra; no one stopped to think how important educated brains are necessary for succesful child rearing Would also help an awful lot, if stable marriage before childbirth became a social norm again. Worked well, up into the liberated 1960’s
      
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      December 24, 2025 10:57am
      - Paulus
        
        In New Zealand remember Helen Clark’s mantra was Women can do anything, and she pushed the DES to where it is now.
        Will not be a pretty sight in a few years whe we are run by women.
        
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        December 24, 2025 1:58pm
    - Quail
      
      WS,
      Yes Demographics in NZ are the elephant in the room.
      As you say ,some NZ birth rates are well below replacement .
      That brings up a myriad of possibilities!
      
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      December 24, 2025 11:02am
    - MCōs
      
      My daughter is what you would call ‘white’ and a self described feminist, but that has nothing to do with why she had only one child.
      During childbirth she began to bleed profusely and a hysterectomy was necessary to save her life.
      Whether she would have had more kids is thus moot.
      Surely, however, in our society where individual rights supersede the priorities of the state or religion the latter doesn’t dictate how many children families should have.
      I was brought up in the Catholic Church and, as everyone knows, there some mighty large families back in the fifties and sixties. Seven, ten, fifteen kids
      
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      December 24, 2025 2:58pm
    - BananaLlama
      
      The birth rate argument is always an interesting one because the truth is that those who don’t bother procreating are trying to make their problem everyone elses problem.
      
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      December 24, 2025 7:51pm
  - pdm
    
    ND I buy petrol in Hastings only at Caltex Karamu Road which is entirely run by an all Indian staff not sure re ownership/lease holding.
    
    Almost always cheapest petrol in town and once they get to know you very friendly, but not fully schooled yet on NZ humour. Overall nice people – Hindu, Sikh and maybe Gujurati staff.
    
    By comparison I worked in BNZ Suva 1974 to 1977 with staff odf about 150. About 50% Indian some completely lacking in good manners etc. Having said that I still maintain contact, 50 years on, with one or two.
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:35am
    - MCōs
      
      I have been with my Thai wife for thirty plus years and she usually finds Kiwi humour not funny at all and why should see?
      We think we’re pretty hot stuff with out marvelous lakes and mountains and punching above our weight
      I love it here, it’s my country, I love the mountains and lakes and understand the humour, but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea
      
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      December 24, 2025 3:23pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    As I said the other day it was Helen Clark that made it easier for mass migration for Indians in early 2000’s people scoffed and tried to say it was Nat law in 2025, well, I have had a look and I can’t see where Nats passed a law to let mass Indian immigration into this country, Labour had 250000 immigrants come into the country each year inn2022 and 2023.
    
    Stanford has cut that back and only 70000 came into the country including 30000 returning nzers from Aussie.
    
    Isn’t it strange, we had an angry country hating on the Chinese 5 years ago, now you never hear the anger of Chinese anymore, Chinese are still coming into the country, but it’s let’s gate Indians, they have not come here over night, or the last 2 years, they have been coming here since 2001 when Clark opened the borders, I well remember the outrage then, and Peter’s then was raving on about it, but ever did he do? That’s right, went into government with Clark in 2005 and did absolutely nothing about it
    
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    December 24, 2025 11:25am
    - R
      
      Comrade Clark, knew from her Marxist indoctrination that a multi-cultural population is much easier to manipulate than an integrated society. Ethnicity to ethnicity.
      
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      December 24, 2025 12:09pm
  - I remember when
    
    In fairness to the Indian population –
    how many corner diaries would still exist without Indian ownership?
    How many school duxes are non-European?
    they prize education and their parental involvement in their children’s education is high
    they are inclined to lower the working age of our population
    
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    December 24, 2025 12:35pm
    - Paulus
      
      How many non Indian run Dairies are there now ?
      They have the money via their own nefarious sources to buy what they want – watch this space.
      
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      December 24, 2025 2:01pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      I can live without dairies, and every school will still have its Dux no matter who attends.
      
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      December 24, 2025 2:14pm
- Simon
  
  You can travel to any welfare basket case small town in the North Island and see Indians performing the low wage jobs that they locals refuse to do, preferring to collect welfare instead.
  
  Aside from anything else those low wage jobs will not pay enough in tax to cover the govt services they are entitled to use or benefit from. NZ is so cooked. The system will fail well before 2065.
  
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  December 24, 2025 8:52am
  - MCōs
    
    If climate change doesn’t get you the Asian hordes will, eh
    
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    December 24, 2025 9:22am
    - Simon
      
      “If climate change doesn’t get you the Asian hordes will, eh”
      
      You have got nothing.
      
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      December 24, 2025 9:50am
      - ISeeRed
        
        He got an Asian wife. Enuff said.
        
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        December 24, 2025 10:36am
    - Don Beckett
      
      😆
      
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      December 24, 2025 10:23am
    - Wandering Star
      
      If we truly believe in sovereign nations, then we must be able to control who does and doesn’t come here – if we don’t have a say, we aren’t sovereign.
      
      What could be more fundamental to any nation than the people who comprise it? Everything else is secondary and tertiary, including how immigrants can “make a better life for themselves” by coming here, as if this means we should not be able to keep them out if we wanted.
      
      I invite people to consider a time in the not too distant future when unchecked levels of immigration (and even increased levels) inevitably make Europeans a minority demographic. Why any European NZer, particularly 4th, 5th, 6th etc. generation ones, would welcome, or be indifferent to this, is hard to say.
      
      I used to take my race for granted, because almost everyone else shared my race. Even in the last 20 years things have radically changed. You’ll never feel more European until you’re surrounded by Indians, African, Asians etc. all speaking foreign languages (even if they are making better lives for themselves – but at what cost?).
      
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      December 24, 2025 10:38am
      - MCōs
        
        “If we truly believe in sovereign nations, then we must be able to control who does and doesn’t come here – if we don’t have a say, we aren’t sovereign.”
        
        We’re never likely to have that scenario are we!
        The closest we’ve probably come was around the time my great grandfather immigrated here from Ireland in 1881. He was an illiterate farmhand and was part of a large influx to develop NZ.
        Interestingly being Irish they were frowned upon by the poms and the Scots
        Timaru, had a lot of Irish immigrants back in those days, but I remember as a kid there was still a lingering prejudice. (Mind you it cut both ways)
        The wheels on the bus go round and round
        
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        December 24, 2025 3:53pm
  - Ghost
    
    You’re welcome to go back to your own country since you don’t like it here
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:30am
    - Wandering Star
      
      Where are people who have no other country to go to supposed to go when this one takes a bad turn? How about the people who do have somewhere else can leave when we don’t like it?
      
      I actually sympathise with Maori for the fact that Europeans came here and displaced them. We say it was all done legally and in the liberal contractarian manner, but really, Europeans were just stronger and had weight of numbers and Maori couldn’t resist the take over. I don’t apologise, but that’s what happened.
      
      If we, ourselves, lose our cultural and demographic dominance to foreigners, it will be out of weakness, inaction, and capitulation – it will not be laudable in any way.
      
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      December 24, 2025 10:47am
      - Ghost
        
        And that’s coming from the person who claimed he wanted to make NZ like Russia, feel free to move there
        
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        December 24, 2025 10:55am
      - Paulus
        
        Within a very short time people of Indian ethnicity will numerically out number the part Maori !
        Indians however also have ethnic Iwi but each to his or her own ethic Iwi.
        And they do clash so far, on the quiet !
        
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        December 24, 2025 2:05pm
      - leoj
        
        If NZ hadn’t been colonised, maori were well on the way to wiping themselves out due to tribal wars.
        
        The Poms saved their arses!
        
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        December 24, 2025 4:30pm
      - NothingLeft
        
        Europeans arriving has prevented somewhere between 500k and a million Maori (at typical yearly 2-3% homocide rates for a population of 200k over 2 centuries) from being brutally murdered and eaten in incessant intertribal warfare.
        
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        December 24, 2025 4:48pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They are businesses, Helen Clark’s open border to Indians in 2001 has lead to this, they are taking pubs, garages, petrol stations dairy’s
    
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    December 24, 2025 11:31am
- cmm
  
  Scott:
  
  Here is one of your low quality candidates.
  
  Now I personally think that “objectionable material” should be reserved for the most extreme exploitation material such as kiddy porn. I don’t think it should really apply to videos of historical events – even if those are used as Isis propaganda.
  
  I think it wrong to classify that as terrorism. I would prefer terrorism to be reserved for materially supporting, carrying out, or planning acts of terrorism. Mere possession of terrorist propaganda should not be enough on its own.
  
  “And it was submitted that a conviction would make it difficult for him to progress with an arranged marriage.”
  
  What! Is that really something that should sway the court?
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-man-caught-with-footage-of-isis-beheadings-murders-terror-group-promo-material/MMKZQREY7RFHVC62SLGM2PQN54/
  
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  December 24, 2025 8:53am
  - Sir Henry Morgan
    
    I thought the point of jail was to cause inconvenience to the person jailed?
    
    But why is having this material even criminal? There are sites online where people share all kinds of videos featuring violence and death. Random accidents (traffic, workplace, sports) are mixed with police activity, combat footage, and yes, also execution videos created by Islamic groups, Latin American drug cartels, etc. Not sure the people who share this stuff pose any particular threat to society.
    
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    December 24, 2025 2:08pm
- Dudley Quaffquaff
  
  What if you liked Aotearoa the way it was? What if you aren’t ashamed of being Maori? What if you don’t want to follow Australia and America and be replaced by thousands and thousands of Pakeha? What if you are proud of your heritage and your history and the work of your ancestors?
  
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  December 24, 2025 9:07am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    There are still a few societies living a Neolithic life – the Andaman Islands and deep jungle Amazonia spring to mind.
    
    A person such as you describe – not that I believe that there actually are any – could rock up there and go for it.
    
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    December 24, 2025 9:22am
  - Michael Johnston
    
    Historically there was no ‘Aotearoa.’ That country is a fiction dreamed up by latter-day, middle class public servants. In fact there was no concept of a country at all prior to British colonisation – just numerous tribal territories, with all of the war and strife that comes with tribalism.
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:34am
    - Wandering Star
      
      Irrelevant. You keep saying “but Aotearoa is a fiction!” as you become further and further marginalised. It doesn’t matter what is and what isn’t a fiction – you are being sidelined, and that is real.
      
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      December 24, 2025 10:50am
      - pdm
        
        Fiction or mythical?
        
        I prefer mythical but, same thing I guess.
        
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        December 24, 2025 12:41pm
      - Sir Henry Morgan
        
        Wandering Star is on the money.
        
        It’s basically a fact now that you can’t work in the NZ public service without swallowing the Aotearoa stuff – compulsory karaika (or whatever they’re called), enough Maori language to handle a bit of ceremonial stuff, and so on. So that’s a decent slice of economic opportunity removed. After all, the government spends nearly 50% of all the money earned in the economy.
        
        One thing to be aware of regarding demographic projections of European New Zealanders becoming a minority is that it will happen in the younger cohort decades before it happens in the population as a whole. No doubt there are large and growing areas where European New Zealanders are already a minority.
        
        To be honest, I care less about European New Zealanders becoming a minority in New Zealand than the same happening in Europe. In theory, European New Zealanders might have the option of returning to Europe should they no longer be welcome in New Zealand. However, once it happens in Europe (and it’s already happened in some of the biggest cities) then Europeans really will have nowhere to go.
        
        The education system and institutions have been teaching anti-white racism for decades now. To loathe white people and their history (whether that’s in the form of white self-loathing or the animus of non-whites towards a racial other) is practically the mark of being a well-educated person who can safely be allowed to rub shoulders with the elite managerial class who run things.
        
        All this is unlikely to end well for white people.
        
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        December 24, 2025 2:19pm
      - Jack5
        
        Sir Henry Morgan (the Kiwiblog poster) on demographic projections of European New Zealanders becoming a minority …
        
        Usually, intermarriage is overlooked. Maori, White, and other non-Maori are fusing through marriage and pseudo-marriage. Emerging is a New Zealand mestizo population, not dissimilar to those of Latin American countries north of Argentina and Uruguay.
        
        If you define a person as by genetics more than 50 per cent of a race, soon Maori, as well as White New Zealanders, will be minorities; Chinese New Zealanders and Indian New Zealanders will remain minorities.
        
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        December 24, 2025 4:06pm
      - Sir Henry Morgan
        
        Regarding Jack5’s point on intermarriage. That’s 100% true. A couple of further points about it though:
        
        First, maybe as a consequence of the general anti-white atmosphere (to be white is to be a ‘sinner’), people of mixed heritage tend to identify with the non-white part. You see this most obviously in New Zealand with the proud Maori types who have little actual Maori heritage. Nothing necessarily wrong with the Maori thing, except perhaps when state-funded goodies are on offer. After all, you have a similar dynamic with the Irish, where it sometimes seems half the world’s white people claim to be ‘Irish’. I think it’s important though that New Zealand start assigning more value to Britain’s massive contributions. The ironic(?) self-loathing has gone a bit far.
        
        Second, different groups intermarry at very different rates. The cultures from ‘chopsticks Asia’ are fairly open to intermarriage, at least with Europeans but also more generally. The Subcontinent is a completely different story. Indians barely marry outside their caste, much less outside their race. Anyway, the result is that the various cultures from the Subcontinent will tend to remain ethnic enclaves, and the enclaves will only grow with immigration.
        
        Third, even though racial intermarriage will gradually lead to some blurring of racial categories, racial intermarriage remains the exception rather than the norm even among those demographics most open to it. So any racial blending will happen only very slowly, and will lag far behind the current frantic pace of immigration.
        
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        December 24, 2025 5:06pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Then you are still free to live that life.
    
    Get some land, or live on a marae. Plant kumara, use customary rights to take seafood.
    
    No one is stopping Maori from living an authentically pre-1840 lifestyle, or living a tribal lifestyle with some modern accoutrements. But that lifestyle ends up looking like Papua New Guinea or the Solomon Islands … and I don’t see any rational Maori wanting or choosing to follow that path.
    
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    December 24, 2025 12:10pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    Anyone from our modern world would absolutely hate it. Good discussion of exactly this topic from Simone and Malcom Collins:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBTCflOXppg
    
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    December 24, 2025 4:51pm
- kowtow
  
  Front page of the Herald says otherwise.
  
  ISIS inspired nutter loses bid for discharge.Gets permanenet name suppression. Should be deported .
  
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  December 24, 2025 9:15am
- Crafty
  
  I partially agree, my view is immigration is good but it has to be controlled and at a level where integration can occur. Europe bought in too many people too fast and with not enough monitoring and now they have a huge problem with some extreme immigrants and immigrants who have not integrated into society. I worry we will go down the same route if the Greens have their way.
  
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  December 24, 2025 9:29am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    2 consecutive years of 250000 under Labour down to 70000 now and 30000 are returning NZers from Aussie, why are people talking on here as if this has started over night, I just do not understand so called intelligent people at times.
    
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    December 24, 2025 11:34am
- Groggy
  
  What if you are just a massive racist [Mod – deleted]
  
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  December 24, 2025 10:02am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Stating a preference is not being racist. Join the Mari Party to speak like that.
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:44am
    - leoj
      
      As long as we have a Maori Party, maori seats and maori wards, the country will remain inhernently racist.
      
      It’s what maori want.
      
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      December 24, 2025 4:36pm
- mogg
  
  In the UK two Muslims are on trial for planning to kill hundreds of Jews. They tried to buy 4 AK47s
  and were monitored touring Northern English cities looking at Synagogues, Jewish schools and Prestwich which is a Jewish area. An undercover cop bugged their vehicles and houses, MI5 has 40000 people on a terror watch list 80% of them Muslim, and Starmer only ever talks about the threat from the far right.
  
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  December 24, 2025 10:10am
  - Wandering Star
    
    Better clamp down on criticism of Israel by White people then.
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:51am
  - Sir Henry Morgan
    
    I’m amazed its only 80% Muslim.
    
    Bet the other 20% has been padded with all sorts of Tommy Robinson types who everyone must pretend are terribly threatening. Maybe also some ‘incels’ – they’re pretty scary.
    
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    December 24, 2025 2:22pm
- EssenX
  
  I don’t know where to start with your comment. First, you should be proud of your culture. You shouldn’t have to apologise for being a white male. But I have no idea what Indian immigration has anything to do with that. And I don’t think Luxon’s comment is a zero game that you must have either option – you can have both. NZ will be dysfunctional without immigrants, Indians probably make up 4% of the working population, and the EU problem is specific to a particular type of migrant, from particular places, at a particular time (not rocket science). Lastly, rather than looking at your politicians, you might want to look across the table at Christmas as it seems like this agenda is primarily pushed by white females (most Asian NZers are far more right wing than your wives and daughters).
  
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  December 24, 2025 10:37am
  - Paulus
    
    Look at what happened in Fiji whereby we inherited the Indians when they were forced to leave as they had British Passports,
    They as a race in Fiji did not own land but ran all the businesses and had a sort of Mafia to themselves which is current quiely here.
    They can get all the money for businesses they want from their own financial arrangements, and do.
    A non Indian Dairy comes up they buy immediately.
    
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    December 24, 2025 2:13pm
    - Sir Henry Morgan
      
      Indians do blatantly favor other Indians in business/work and exclude non-Indians.
      
      It eventually leads to non-Indians being shut out of certain companies, industries, government departments, etc.
      
      Travel through Heathrow airport and virtually all the staff are Indian. Closest I met to an ethnic English person on my last trip through was a Chinese woman who at least spoke exactly like an actual Londoner.
      
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      December 24, 2025 2:33pm
      - EssenX
        
        Not true.
        
        Here’s a large Indian investor in NZ have a look at their executive team in NZ: https://www.hindmanagement.com/our-team/
        
        A number of other large Asian businesses across hospitality, healthcare, and manufacturing are the same.
        
        You really need to understand that Indians and the Chinese play a much bigger role in the economy than your local dairy and their strategy is always to put locals into key positions (typically, white men). If you or someone you know is being overlooked by Asian-owned businesses, I’ll tell you something: it’s not the colour of your skin, it’s the quality of your CV!
        
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        December 24, 2025 3:08pm
    - EssenX
      
      Huh? You clearly have very little understanding about Fiji’s history. Fiji, like many African colonies, set itself backwards following indigenous nationalism (sound familiar because the same will happen here if Tamihere gets his way!) and has never recovered following the capital flight in 1987 and the latest (final) brain drain following Rabuka’s election.
      
      They can buy dairies because they go to the bank, get a loan, and then work hard. Just in the same way they’re buying houses, other much larger businesses, and land. The problem is that the average NZer doesn’t want to take risks or work hard, they want a quarter acre section in Westmere at 1975 prices while having a gold plated health system and someone else to deliver their goods, take care of their elderly parents, and look after their children.
      
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      December 24, 2025 2:34pm
- pb
  
  Yes. Globalism is a disaster for the human race. Some very old psyops still run peoples minds. Its the old protestant “there’s too many people” Malthusian birth control urge. VERSUS. The old money worship urge to make the stocks go up, by importing cheap labour. There’s no cost we shouldn’t be prepared to bear to make the stocks go up. The two fundamental residues duel it out. [Pareto – Concept of Residues].
  
  My kids struggled to find odd holiday jobs, yet there are tonnes of immigrants doing everything. The argument kiwi’s wont do it is bollocks. The tightwad companies want cheap labour. They want us weak and oikophobic (liberal self hating), so they can exploit us.
  
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  December 24, 2025 10:43am
  - EssenX
    
    Helpful me: Get your kids to try Student Job Search in future. There’s lots of employers looking specifically for young, students for temporary work.
    
    Unhelpful me: maybe your kids need to look in the mirror?
    
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    December 24, 2025 11:37am
    - Sir Henry Morgan
      
      I expect his kids probably did try Student Job Search.
      
      It can still be very difficult to find work.
      
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      December 24, 2025 2:37pm
      - EssenX
        
        In which case, I’d say follow point two: look in the mirror, work on your skills, and maybe do a side gig. I know two Pakeha high school boys in different parts of the country who couldn’t get normal holiday work so one started a web design business for tradies and another started a building wash lead service. 12 months later the holiday businesses are real businesses helping them fund their university study! Your attitude is reflective of the decay in Western countries: you make the same excuses as “woke” snowflakes rather than taking control of your destiny and making something of it. That’s what white men used to do and why they were innovative and successful. Now you need your own version of The View!
        
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        December 24, 2025 3:14pm
- Philview
  
  I am encountering Indians in various areas of my life and I like them. The younger females tend to be polite and respectful with a strong work ethic. My gripe is with the unspoken Government policies that have created mass migration.
  
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  December 24, 2025 12:04pm
- Wayne1749
  
  Immigration into New Zealand has been far more successfully managed than Western Europe and the US. Immigrants are generally well assimilated, with crime rates far lower on average than even European New Zealanders.
  
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  December 24, 2025 2:26pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  “Liberals” are mostly extinct. Now we have rabid woke airheads who are anything but “liberal”.
  
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  December 24, 2025 2:37pm
greybeard

Merry Christmas everyone.
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December 24, 2025 8:12am
- mandk
  
  God rest you merry, greybeard.
  
  I hope you might like listening to this version of my favourite Christmas song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMCnecRX8NM&list=RDVMCnecRX8NM&start_radio=1
  
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  December 24, 2025 8:21am
- Tricati
  
  Same to you greybeard & all the best for the New Year.
  
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  December 24, 2025 10:21am
- PeterTrentham
  
  Ho ho ho to you too. Merry Christmas everyone.
  
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  December 24, 2025 11:08am
KKNZ2025

It’s apparent that the NZ seasons have now shifted a month or two since my childhood in the 1950s / 60s. (Earth wobble…precession…?)

It’s therefore time to shift the statutory NZ summer school holiday break into February when there’s more likelihood of better weather.

We can then all celebrate Chinese New Year.
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December 24, 2025 8:22am
- Grumpy Silver Top
  
  I well remember that assertion from my schooldays, in the 1960s. We always spent our first month back at school looking out at the glorious February weather. Maybe my memory is different than yours.
  
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  December 24, 2025 9:26am
- zulumonster
  
  Bugger that idea – then my summer holidays would be infested with crowds of people holidaying with their school age children … won’t anyone think of the boomers???!
  
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  December 24, 2025 9:55am
- wsk12345
  
  No way – too many kids on holiday then! I like that the best weather is after they go back to school. They already get Xmas – don’t give them Feb as well!
  
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  December 24, 2025 10:27am
  - pdm
    
    wsk – agreed.
    
    When first married and before our kids started school we always took our holidays in February.
    
    Now April May seems the equivalent weather wise.
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:43am
- Paulus
  
  What about Diwali ?
  A new national Holiday.
  
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  December 24, 2025 2:14pm
Yvette

I have become what may be a racist
And like Scott – What if you liked NZ the way it was?

1 – In an article “Te Pāti Māori insists no left bloc without it, prepares to mobilise support again next year” [1] there is one line that strikes a chord:
The way it operated was lacking tikanga and fundamental ways of being Māori. after John Tamihere specifically invokes tikanga as a smoke cloak then utters remarks like “It is a beautiful thing” in response to questions about dictatorial behaviour.

2 – This insincerity, as I perceive it, meshs with the presentation of Maori phrases on television, the delivery of which have now become so automatic and glibly-said that as well as being shallow virtual signaling to those fluent in Maori – because the important stuff (the actual information) is in English. And such presentation is totally indecipherable to any learner, and some indeed seem to break the rule of Maori pronunciation: that no syllable ends in a consonant, and now on TVNZ several apparently do.

3 – Then there is the all invasive haka, used by sports team, intimidating Destiny Church-linked religious militia, and ill-timed politicians who can’t wait for a simple Parliamentary vote to be ended, just three words away as I understand it: “Motion agreed to” [2]

Then the overall pall of Maori exceptialism, raising an ethnicity and their religious entanglement with reality above all others, while the actual reality is that so many of their people reside at the bottom end of any number of social measurements. And, for example, display irony from being the only ethnicity that may present a case to the Waitangi Tribunal to “Māori Ethical considerations with Artificial Intelligence Systems; Māori ethics associated with AI systems architecture and: Māori cultural considerations with Artificial Intelligence and Robotics.”

“Helping distinguish between inner perceptions and outer realities” is referred to as Cognitive Behavioural Therapy – CBT. Specifically challenging distorted or irrational beliefs may be referred to as cognitive restructuring or cognitive reframing. But first you have to recognise the warped thinking.
And its relatively slow growth can help it hide: that the mind or subconscious is dis-eased by unworded lies, irony and twisted truth.

So of these points [1 – 3] made above, and many more, have contributed to a sense of negativity I feel now whenever I see yet another unending haka or hear or read Maori words or phrases – realising what has happened: I have become what may be a racist

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[1] https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/582519/te-pati-maori-insists-no-left-bloc-without-it-prepares-to-mobilise-support-again-next-year
[2] https://www3.parliament.nz/resource/en-NZ/HansD_20241114_20241114/109fee72a005ca9230dccaab7a5075a81edfd0d8 Hansard page 7432
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December 24, 2025 8:26am
James

Scott, I seem to remember Jacinda saying, at a citizenship ceremony that we (NZ) were the lucky ones to have such diversity added to our country. I remember thinking that that opinion was completely turned around, it’s not like the new citizens were doing us a favour, it was NZ providing then opportunities denied where they came from. Maybe I’m just an aging grinch
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December 24, 2025 8:34am
- kowtow
  
  All this “diversity” , “enrichment” , “multiculti” stuff is simply more cultural Marxism , dressed up in lovely sentimental emotionalism , to beguile the thickos , silence the dissenters and to advance the war on the west , on its values of individual freedom , nationhood and cohesion.
  
  Huge swathes of Europe , Australia and North America are not feeling it anymore .
  
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  December 24, 2025 9:45am
- ISeeRed
  
  More than a few immigrants I’ve met believe this, strutting around thinking they’re God’s gift to New Zealand and they own the place. It won’t end well.
  
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  December 24, 2025 9:53am
  - R
    
    strutting around…..pity they weren’t gainfully employed, to prove their claim of being ‘God’s Gift’.
    
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    December 24, 2025 11:16am
  - Quail
    
    ISR,
    Nothing new in that,
    UK used to be a major source of strutters who used to look down on Kiwis.
    Kiwis referred to them as “homeys “ as their constant refrain was how much better it was at home .(in Britain )!
    
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    December 24, 2025 4:17pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  The good news I have for James is that he is not the only ageing grinch.
  Moi aussi.
  
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  December 24, 2025 10:20am
- R
  
  grinch! Actually you are a realist, a rare beast on KB lately
  
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  December 24, 2025 11:13am
- pb
  
  Diversity is not a strength. It has been proven by the post war experiment in multi-cult. It is a complete failure. The new QED through decades of lived experience will be that Diversity is death.
  
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  December 24, 2025 11:38am
  - Taieri
    
    Diversity is not a strength.
    ————
    
    But it is. Everyone says so.
    
    The most diverse country in the world is Papua New Guinea. Anyone keen to go for an after dinner walk in Port Moresby?
    
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    December 24, 2025 11:57am
CJames

I see Geoffrey Palmer (one of the worst PMs NZ ever had) has got all upset that National is getting rid of his RMA. Another one of those law by lawyers for lawyers changes he pushed through. Just like principles of the Treaty that didn’t mean a thing – yeah right. Then were the things he wanted but could never implement – remember the written constitution?
Could it be that in his retirement village, being the curmudgeon there is just not enough audience. He wants to inflict his views on the rest of the country, reminding us how bad you were. Or do Labour still adhere to his views? The NGOs certainly do.
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December 24, 2025 8:50am
- Ipanema69
  
  The advice I would give to all former prime ministers ( yes I am looking at you Helen) is STFU. No one cares what you think.
  
  Strangely enough it is the lefties that have the biggest issue with following this advice.
  
  I cant recall the last time I have heard from John Key or Bill English.
  
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  December 24, 2025 9:48am
  - Ghost
    
    English was interviewed recently, Key is often in the media
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:41am
    - R
      
      Key and English are usually approached for a comment, NOT foist upon the public by a fawning media.
      
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      December 24, 2025 11:18am
    - kowtow
      
      Reviewing military parades in Peking .
      
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      December 24, 2025 11:35am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Being interviewed is different to pushing your arrogance from failure into our social media pages.
      
      I heard than bloody expert Goff whaling on about UN and the fact the US did not pay their 7% gdp to the UN why the hell should they pay that 7%
      
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      December 24, 2025 11:38am
- Paulus
  
  It should be alright as his son is a very senior Judge in New Zealand, and very highly qualified to.
  Future Top Dog in every respect too.
  
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  December 24, 2025 2:18pm
Ipanema69

In anticipation of our gracious hosts 2026 predictions I would like to make a few of my own (albeit some slightly longer range ones).

New Zealand First will hold the balance of power following the outcome of the 2026.

WRP will make the country wait at least six weeks prior to deciding who will be the government.

Labour will offer WRP the prime minister role for the first 18 months of the 2026 term. This will be accepted.

WRP will then leave parliament, be knighted and appointed ambassador to London or Washington.

New Zealand First will not return to Parliament in 29 under the leadership of Shane Jones.
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December 24, 2025 9:05am
- Grumpy Silver Top
  
  Doomsayer.
  
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  December 24, 2025 9:30am
- PeterTrentham
  
  Yep, about what I am thinking too.
  
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  December 24, 2025 9:34am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Winston is the only floater in parliament at the moment. The other parties are well & truly aligned either Left or Right. That gives him considerable power, and given the chance he’ll know how to use it.
  
  At this point in his career, I’d expect him to be wanting to secure his legacy. As you say, being PM is almost certainly highest on his wishlist.* The challenge for National and ACT would be to construct a mechanism that permitted Winston the PM-ship while simultaneously limiting his power to that proportional to the NZ First share of the vote. All part of our evolving MMP constitution.
  
  * As an aside, he would also be NZ’s first Maori PM. One thing I respect about Winston is that being Maori is part of him, but he doesn’t over emphasise it. Should this come to pass I would enjoy the chagrin emanating from the Left, in the same way that happened when Helen Clark failed in her life goal to be NZ’s first female PM.
  
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  December 24, 2025 9:38am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Are you aware of one of the definitions of a ‘floater’? 😆
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:47am
  - pdm
    
    `Winston is the only floater in parliament at the moment. ‘
    
    As Steve Hansen was want to say – IT IS TIME TO FLUSH THE DUNNY!!!
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:49am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Rabid lefties in Aus used to call former PM John Howard the “unflushable turd”.
      
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      December 24, 2025 2:39pm
- Mod88
  
  Yet Winston Peters is a vociferous advocate of retired Politicians not getting Diplomatic Posts like Ambassadorships. I do agree that NZ First will hold the balance of power but I do not agree that they will prosper under Shane Jones.
  
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  December 24, 2025 9:52am
  - Ipanema69
    
    I did say not return to parliament in 29.
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:39am
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    Agreed mod.
    
    The future of NZFirst rests with Casey Costello and Jamie Arbuckle I think.
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:51am
- mogg
  
  Winston still holds his grudge towards Hipkins, he will already be relishing rubbing Hipkins’ nose in it.
  After two losses it should end Hipkins career in parliament.
  
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  December 24, 2025 10:15am
  - Ipanema69
    
    My comment was a bit tongue in cheek. I hope to be wrong. However WRP always goes with the biggest baubles. My feeling is that Labour will offer more.
    
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    December 24, 2025 10:41am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      How could labour pull their pants down and offer a party they don’t like PM that right there should be a bribe that should not legally be able to happen
      
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      December 24, 2025 11:42am
- leoj
  
  By extension then, Hipkins will not be Labour’s leader, or, you are predicting that Winnie will break his vow.
  
  The latter is entirely possible.
  
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  December 24, 2025 10:24am
  - mogg
    
    I would say that getting even is just as important as baubles to Winston, and who in parliament is not there for the baubles.
    
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    December 24, 2025 12:03pm
  - Paulus
    
    Labour has to have a Women leader as they have shown how well they can only do with one.
    
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    December 24, 2025 2:23pm
- R
  
  For the future good of NZ, hopefully you prediction will be wrong.
  
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  December 24, 2025 11:20am
Yvette

Hamas, Islam
How is it that Hamas provoked Israel (who they knew would go many times further than a tooth for a tooth) so Hamas threw “their people” to the slaughter, but in New Zealand this year Islamic and Jewish entities have signed a Peace Accord in front of the Governor General, although some of the MPs in Parliament wear virtual signaling garb and have used the genocide invocation River to the sea

One point that was not really touched on yesterday –
The example of Muhammad is that Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on their side. Once they do, things change.

This is why Tarrant, as well as performing his heinous atrocities, also simply committed them in the wrong country, where tipping point has not be reached.

What if you liked NZ the way it was? What if you aren’t ashamed of being a white man? What if you don’t want to follow Europe and the UK and be replaced by thousands and thousands of foreigners? What if you are proud of your heritage and your history and the work of your ancestors?
What if you expressed that in a 78 page rant and called it THE GREAT REPLACEMENT ?

Would you be heading towards being a terrorist, as much as I think I may be a racist?
Sorry, despite tomorrow marking an anniversary for Christ
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December 24, 2025 9:33am
- pb
  
  Hamas since its inception was funded by Israel, as a foil against the influence of Yassar Arafat and the PLO. For they sow the wind and shall reap the whirlwind.
  
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  December 24, 2025 11:42am
wisteria

The election of NZ First as a viable option as “king maker” hopefully will not happen. Winston is not well. His hands shake, he slurs his words to the extent that he cannot be understood much of the time. He is pandering to a group of New Zealanders who have faulty memories of how good it used to be.
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December 24, 2025 9:42am
- JackRabbit
  
  His hands shake, he slurs his words to the extent that he cannot be understood much of the time.
  
  As contrasted to the lunatics in Labour, Greens, and Maori party whose fists shake, and whose words don’t make sense, slurred or un-slurred.
  
  I have no problem listening to Winston, he makes perfect sense and he speaks from his soul, and cultured words come out of his mouth.
  
  The proponents from the afore mentioned parties, seem to speak from the other end of their bodies. Especially TPM and Greens. At times I think they derive their speeches from recorded bowel motions using AI.
  
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  December 24, 2025 1:30pm
- Paulus
  
  Surely the Whisky is to settle his old man’s Nerves ?
  
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  December 24, 2025 2:24pm
sungsamning

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2025/12/23/trump-boom-u-s-economy-grows-4-3-smashing-expectations/
Trump Boom: U.S. Economy Grows 4.3%, Fastest in Two Years, Smashing Expectations.
The U.S. economy grew this summer at the fastest pace in two years, far outpacing economists’ forecasts.

The Commerce Department said U.S. gross domestic product—the government’s official economic scorecard—rose at a seasonally and inflation-adjusted 4.3 percent annual rate in the third quarter. The report on the July through September period was delayed due to the shutdown.

“Today’s blockbuster, expectation-smashing GDP report is the latest proof that President Trump’s America First trade and economic agenda continues to turn the page on the Biden economic disaster: American consumers are spending, and American exports are surging,” White House spokesman Kush Desai said. “President Trump built the greatest economy in the world in his first term, and he’s in the process of doing it all over again. Americans can count on benefitting from a historic economic boom in 2026.”
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December 24, 2025 9:50am
- virtualmark
  
  Careful. The July to September quarter was boosted by (a) forward buying of international goods before tariffs took effect, and (b) an uplift in the timing of US defence spending.
  
  The US economy is doing okay at the moment. But not consistently 4.3% pa okay. I suspect the long-term run rate for US GDP growth is currently about 2-2.5% pa. Not terrible, but basically no different from under Biden.
  
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  December 24, 2025 12:13pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Tariffs started in April and at higher rates than they are now. Your comment was being made in June.
    Inflation is dropping
    You really dont know do you.
    
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    December 24, 2025 3:34pm
    - virtualmark
      
      Shrug.
      
      It’s what I do for a living so yes I think I know a thing or two about it.
      
      Tariffs were announced earlier in the year but they were continually being postponed and so it was still possible to buy many items without tariffs in the July to September quarter. Basically there was front-loading of imports from March through to about late-August.
      
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      December 24, 2025 3:41pm
  - sungsamning
    
    With all the foreign investment coming in, I think it’ll do just fine. Much better than Biden could have acheived.
    
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    December 24, 2025 4:19pm
sungsamning

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2025/12/2020_ga_election_fraud_is_confirmed.html
2020 GA Election Fraud is Confirmed.
A few days ago, the Federalist reported that Fulton County, Georgia, had over 300,000 illegal early-vote ballots during the 2020 election. The votes were illegal because they were unsupported by poll worker signatures (contrary to Georgia law). In other words, the vote totals were miraculously born without a mother or father.
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December 24, 2025 9:51am
Groggy

And in the true spirit of Christmas Kiwiblog has gone full on Xenophobic racist today. Immigrants are OK as long as they look, speak and act like me. Anyone else will ruin the country. We will ignore the fact that over the past 50 years it has been overwhelmingly middle aged Pakeha men that are responsible for creating the society we now have and you all seem to hate.
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December 24, 2025 10:01am
- ISeeRed
  
  Hopefully your hangover wears off soon, Groggy.
  
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  December 24, 2025 10:40am
- EssenX
  
  There’s some truth in that. The decline in tone isn’t unique to KiwiBlog; it’s visible across a lot of Western commentary spaces. Imported culture-war politics, particularly US-style MAGA grievance framing, has normalised suspicion of outsiders and conspiratorial thinking.
  
  Much of the rhetoric reads less like policy critique and more like insecurity dressed up as principle.
  
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  December 24, 2025 10:41am
  - Wandering Star
    
    People are right to feel insecure in such cases of demographic replacement. What would be the “rational” and enlightened attitude you’d prefer people adopted in the face of mass immigration of culturally and racially discordant people?
    
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    December 24, 2025 11:07am
    - EssenX
      
      The premise matters. New Zealand is not experiencing “demographic replacement” in any legal or factual sense.
      
      A rational response is to debate numbers, skills, and integration standards without racial framing. It’s also worth noting that demographic replacement did occur here historically, and it I assume it didn’t trouble many of the same voices when Māori were on the receiving end. The sudden alarm now, in circumstances that are materially different and far more regulated, suggests the concern is just a little hypocritical.
      
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      December 24, 2025 11:41am
      - Wandering Star
        
        “New Zealand is not experiencing “demographic replacement” in any legal or factual sense.”
        
        If any demographic reduces relative to increases in others , that constitutes replacement of the former by the latter.
        
        AI overview disagrees with you:
        
        [Mod – just post links to the ai chat]
        
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        December 24, 2025 1:17pm
      - EssenX
        
        That’s a definitional sleight of hand. A relative change in population shares is not “replacement” in any legal, political, or policy sense. Replacement implies displacement or loss of rights. None is occurring.
        
        No group in NZ is being removed, stripped of citizenship, or subordinated by law due to immigration. Population composition changes happen in all societies over time. Calling that “replacement” is rhetoric, not analysis, and no “AI” summary alters that fact.
        
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        December 24, 2025 3:20pm
    - mandk
      
      It goes way beyond demographic replacement.
      
      The threat is Islam and the imposition of an alien and oppressive system of law.
      
      Muslims talk about this openly in Europe, North America and Australia. It will soon happen in New Zealand.
      
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      December 24, 2025 1:23pm
  - Sir Henry Morgan
    
    Maybe it’s a reaction to half a century of anti-white, anti-male, anti-heterosexual activism?
    
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    December 24, 2025 2:41pm
- Wandering Star
  
  That’s a strawman, and even includes the usual braindead buzzwords meant to stifle thought.
  
  It’s not this or that immigrant who doesn’t “look, speak and act like me” its the shear scale – the proliferation of Indian, “Asian” and even African immigrants walking around on any given day is quite staggering, certainly compared to even 15 years ago. When the basic differences become so apparent and the scale is significant, people start to get uncomfortable (as no doubt would Indians, “Asians” and Africans if White people started to flood those places en masse – in other words, its a universal instinct).
  
  It is true that “over the past 50 years it has been overwhelmingly middle aged Pakeha men that are responsible for creating the society we now have” – and they were 100% wrong on so many issues.
  
  But remember, too, we also had many many centuries of “middle aged Pakeha men” creating and sustaining European and European-derived societies, and yet they managed perfectly well for those centuries. Something started to go wrong post WW2 or thereabouts.
  
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  December 24, 2025 11:01am
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    Yep. And it has nothing to do with the “other” and everything to do with themselves.
    
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    December 24, 2025 12:07pm
- Ra Henare
  
  Well said Groggy.
  
  Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
  
  Having participated in KB for 20+ years. It has changed.
  Maybe it’s a reflection on changes in society.
  More division.
  More polarisation.
  
  The narrative seems to be everything. Any challenge to the narrative gets dumped on rather than debated.
  
  When was the last time a Maori positive thread was debated here, or a critical review of IDF actions, or or or or.
  
  It seems only polarised opinions keep swamping what used to be reasonable debate. Which by the way was self censored before the Government decided on having hate speech laws (which only stifles free speech)
  
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  December 24, 2025 1:51pm
  - EssenX
    
    I agree. I’ve been lurking since around 2007 and I posted elsewhere on this thread the quality of debate and variety of opinions is reducing. An amusing one, however, is watching some mouths froth predictably when David Garrett criticises Trump.
    
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    December 24, 2025 3:24pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Groggy I nominate yours as hyperbolic woke post of the day.
  
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  December 24, 2025 2:41pm
Christopher Thomson

Please supply examples of where ‘cultural enrichment’ has worked to the benefit of the host culture.

If they come to our country and change to fit in, it’s assimilation. If they come to our country and change us to fit them, it’s an invasion.
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December 24, 2025 10:59am
- Wandering Star
  
  Look at European culture (although granted, much of it is in the rearview mirror now): the music, the art, the architecture, the philosophy, the science and so on ….. imagine thinking that this needed any enrichment from without.
  
  This is not to say that European culture has not drawn on, adopted, and assimilated aspects of other cultures – this is undeniable. But the end result was something quite unique and distinct, and irreplicable and unsustainable by any other people.
  
  Which Europeans ever wandered the streets of Paris, Rome, even London or New York in the early 20th century and said to themselves “sure, very nice: but do you know what this really place needs?”
  
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  December 24, 2025 11:23am
  - Wayne1749
    
    That argument is absurd. If one insists on racialising the issue, it is Europeans who have migrated into—and dominated—the lands of other peoples more extensively than any other group. In the early twentieth century, the states centred on cities like Paris, London, New York, and Rome were occupying vast territories across the globe, often through invasion, dispossession, and mass violence. That Europeans now regularly encounter people of other races is hardly surprising, given that European powers once controlled much of the world and incorporated colonised peoples into their national and imperial narratives through conquest.
    
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    December 24, 2025 2:21pm
- Cassandra
  
  Our restaurants have benefited enormously from immigration. Starting in the 50s with the Dutch and including such gems as Karangahape Road’s Sri Pinang, sadly about to close because the chef and owner, with his wife Angie, is ill.
  
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  December 24, 2025 11:34am
  - Wandering Star
    
    The Dutch are European, though. The others can just email us the recipes.
    
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    December 24, 2025 11:56am
  - Jack5
    
    Cassandra, you’re surely not suggesting that NZ should go hell for leather in multiculturism to provide restaurant variety for Aucklanders?
    
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    December 24, 2025 1:26pm
- EssenX
  
  “Cultural enrichment” isn’t a policy lever, it’s an observed outcome. Clear examples include the US and Australia, where immigrant communities assimilated into core civic norms while materially improving science, medicine, food, business and culture. None of those societies were “invaded”; all remain recognisably themselves.
  
  The distinction that actually matters is not enrichment vs invasion, but whether the host state enforces assimilation to law, language and civic norms (this is where the UK and Europe are going wrong badly). Where it does, immigration tends to be additive. Where it doesn’t, problems arise. That’s a governance issue, not a racial one. And I would agree with you that many Western countries, including NZ, need to increase the expectations placed on immigrants (including white ones) not to bring their baggage with them on arrival.
  
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  December 24, 2025 12:18pm
  - Wandering Star
    
    “The distinction that actually matters is not enrichment vs invasion, but whether the host state enforces assimilation …”
    
    And there’s the problem. When assimilation must be enforced by law, it quite clearly follows that assimilation otherwise wouldn’t occur, particular in the context of mass immigration wherein the scale of it means immigrants don’t have to assimilate, because they just (quite naturally, by my hypothesis) join the various “communities” of their “like” co-ethnics. In fact, what are “diversity” and “multiculturalism” if they don’t logically entail non-assimilation?
    
    When various European nationalities emigrated to places like Australia, New Zealand, America or Canada in the 19th and 20th century for example, there was little assimilation even required (and it certainly didn’t have to be “enforced” by law), and that is simply because like people were emigrating to live among like people. Even the stereotypical “alien” Irish and Italians quickly fit in.
    
    Ultimately, you could drop any Germans, Swedes, French or Italians into New Zealand and they’d fit right in almost immediately, notwithstanding some cultural differences; drop a Somali, an Algerian or an Indian into the same place, and it’s a fish out of water scenario.
    
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    December 24, 2025 1:27pm
    - Sir Henry Morgan
      
      Not sure I’d go with the fish out of water analogy. Fish out of water flop around helplessly before eventually dying.
      
      A better analogy is probably more like a fox in a chicken coop, or a wolf among a flock of sheep. That last one is pretty good. Or could go even more New Zealand-themed and suggest they’re something like a cuckoo egg placed in the nest of a hapless kiwi. I think that’s pretty good, because it suggests a ticking time bomb.
      
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      December 24, 2025 2:53pm
  - Jack5
    
    The American “melting pot” philosophy, inculcated immigrants’ children with US beliefs and values, and educated them in English language.
    
    Sometimes you would hear a traveller returning to NZ being sceptical about the national flag everywhere in America and people taught pledges to the country.
    
    But it worked.
    
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    December 24, 2025 1:29pm
  - Wayne1749
    
    “I would agree with you that many Western countries, including NZ, need to increase the expectations placed on immigrants (including white ones) not to bring their baggage with them on arrival.”
    
    Many of the problems besetting Western European countries from immigration simply do not apply to the New Zealand context for various reasons. Perhaps you can provide some examples of immigrants ‘bringing their baggage’ with them
    
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    December 24, 2025 2:24pm
    - EssenX
      
      I agree that the problems besetting Europe aren’t applicable here. And there’s a lot of hysteria on this thread and other social media following the FTA with India. But there’s are some easy examples of people bringing their irrelevant conflicts to a country that doesn’t need them:
      
      1. South Africans in Browns Bay thinking they’d left brown people behind and that people of colour are beneath them.
      2. Indians from Punjab putting up yard signs for a referendum on Khalistan independence from India.
      3. The Sunni and Shiite divide. This is a dangerous one.
      4. Chinese in the construction industry undercutting labour costs and material costs illegally.
      
      This all needs to stop.
      
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      December 24, 2025 3:31pm
      - Sir Henry Morgan
        
        Also Chinese bringing the harassment of political dissidents, whether that’s on issues relating to Taiwan, Tibet, Tiananmen, or whatever else. All of the Chinese language media in New Zealand, both print and digital are highly politicized, mostly CCP mouthpieces, though I believe the Falungong still publish their newspapers.
        
        With Chinese language media there’s also some amazing double standards. On Sky Kiwi you cannot criticize the CCP, but they have zero problem with people breaking various New Zealand laws – e.g. selling black market paua, fake diplomas, etc.
        
        Then you have Muslims bringing their intolerance of everything that isn’t Islam, but focused particularly on Jews.
        
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        December 24, 2025 10:20pm
      - Wayne1749
        
        Again, these are simply assumptions with little evidence, and very minor. The Sunni Shiite divide? Where has that been an issue in NZ. Some yard signs – is that the most you can come up with. Undercutting material costs and labour costs – any evidence of this.
        
        Looking at the situation overall, crime among the type of immigrants we have in NZ is about one third to one quarter the white European rate, particularly when it comes to violent and sexual crimes. That’s more important than the concerns you have above.
        
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        December 25, 2025 1:17am
- NothingLeft
  
  Spain forcing out their Jews and other Merchant classes in the 16th Century so that the church and aristocracy could expropriate their wealth under cover of the Spanish Inquisition was hugely beneficial to the other European countries they shifted to, and marked the start of the decline of the Spanish as a European power.
  
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  December 24, 2025 5:02pm
OlderChas

Mr Hipkins is really in a quandary over the Indian Trade agreement isn’t he?
Winston has said plainly – he will not vote for it, meaning Luxon has to court Hipkins to support it.
Hipkins will need Winston if he is going to form a Government next year. If he votes against Winston on this – what chance of Winston supporting Hipkins into Government if it comes to that?
If Hipkins decides not to support it – and remains leader – Winston may well make Labour the Government anyway, because Luxon made a deal which Winston does not agree with.
India deciding who the Government is next year?
My oh my – the secret deals being made all round over this must be fascinating!
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December 24, 2025 11:30am
- Yvette
  
  OlderChas – Hipkins will need Winston if he is going to form a Government next year. If he votes against Winston on this – what chance of Winston supporting Hipkins into Government if it comes to that?
  
  It depends a bit too on whether Winston has got over He Puapua being with-held from him, and Willie Jackson saying he is glad it was, or Winston would have wiped the 2023 Election floor with Willie.
  
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  December 24, 2025 11:47am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  If Hipkins gives the 2 finger salute to level headed voters over this will see him lose the election, how could he tell centre voters, trust me we have changed and won’t do dumb things for him to not support the Indian deal, because of spite, I can’t think of any of my mates who would think this deal is bad
  
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  December 24, 2025 11:47am
  - Jack5
    
    The Indian FTA is a crap deal for NZ, and doesn’t compare with the China-NZ FTA.
    
    See, in yesterday’s General Debate thread, my post showing what Indian media are saying about it.
    
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    December 24, 2025 1:24pm
    - EssenX
      
      No one is claiming this compares to the China FTA in scale. China is NZ’s largest goods market; India isn’t, and wasn’t expected to be. Different partner, different structure, different objectives.
      
      India protecting sensitive agriculture is not unusual; NZ did the same in earlier FTAs. What matters is net access. This deal materially improves NZ access in meat, wool, horticulture and others while labour mobility provisions are temporary, capped, and governed by NZ law.
      
      FTAs are incremental. The China FTA looked modest at signing and proved very valuable over time. Judging this one solely by Indian domestic press spin misses how trade agreements actually function and I think in the fullness of time you’ll be proven to be very wrong (just like many were about the China FTA).
      
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      December 24, 2025 3:50pm
      - Jack5
        
        EssenX’s … labour mobility provisions are temporary, capped, and governed by NZ law.
        
        Young New Zealanders are having a hard time getting jobs.
        
        This is from and Indian financial sources report on the proposed FTA:
        
        “The FTA provides improved entry and stay provisions for Indian professionals, students and youth, including work opportunities during studies, post-study work pathways, dedicated visa arrangements and a Working Holiday visa framework. It also opens skilled employment pathways through a new Temporary Employment Entry Visa, with a quota of 5,000 visas at any given time and stays of up to three years.”
        
        The report linked to below says young New Zealanders face the hardest job market for years. Sixteen per cent of NZ 15 to 24-year-olds are unemployed,
        
        Today is exactly 360 days from the latest possible date for NZ’s next general election.
        
        Thousands of families have kids looking for work. That’s a big pool of voters: parents, big brothers and sisters, grandparents …
        
        Tough job market for NZ youth:
        
        https://www.thepress.co.nz/nz-news/360750295/young-and-shut-out-gen-z-face-harshest-job-market-years
        
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        December 24, 2025 6:25pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Utter rubbish, yes dairy is not the best, but 4 dairy products are in the deal, no other country has as much dairy in a deal with India, much of the tariff reductions and quota start immediately, including wool and lamb, the Chinese deal took 20 years to reduce the tariffs fully, and quota was dropped in blocks, and unlike Labours trade deal with China let Chinese live here, no where in this deal does the deal give a pathway to citizenship.
      
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      December 24, 2025 7:07pm
      - Jack5
        
        The National stronghold of Dunedin will triumph over Peters in the Indian FTA deal? 😃
        
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        December 24, 2025 8:37pm
Jack5

Peter Arnett’s death seems to have slipped quietly by in the media run-up to Christmas — or have I just missed solid coverage?

The reporter from Bluff won a Pulitzer prize in 1966 for his reporting in the Vietnam War.

In 1979 he interviewed Osama bin Laden.

In the Gulf War, he reported live to the world from Baghdad while it was bombed by American Planes, and he interviewed Saddam Hussein.

Ngai Tahu should have made more of this tribal member, who was of blended southern Maori and White descent.

Wikipedia has a detailed entry on Arnett:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Arnett
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December 24, 2025 11:44am
- MCōs
  
  Here’s a piece in the New York Times
  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/17/world/peter-arnett-dead.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
  
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  December 24, 2025 4:22pm
Ghost

Whoops, guess they screwed up their censoring

People examining documents released by the Department of Justice in the Jeffrey Epstein case discovered that some of the file redaction can be undone with Photoshop techniques, or by simply highlighting text to paste into a word processing file.

Article
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December 24, 2025 2:29pm
Chuck Bird

This over an hour but worth watching.

Is ISLAM a Religion of PEACE? Ayaan Hirsi Ali & Douglas Murray’s Most EXPLOSIVE Debate Ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmovtcMNoZ4
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December 24, 2025 2:55pm
Jack5

Claustraphobia …
Mr Claus🎅 X Claus🧑‍🎄 Mrs Claus🤶

About this time, we, the General Debate pack, should wish Merry Christmas to David Farrar, Kokila Patel, other Minders, and their families.

Thank you all for providing and maintaining the Kiwiblog freedom poster wall.

“Let her [Truth] and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse in a free and open encounter? Her confuting is the best and surest suppressing.” ― John Milton, in Areopagitica
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December 24, 2025 4:29pm
wairarapapaul

Merry Xmas and. Happy New Year to all.
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Highlights

Target achieved II
Good progress on attendance
Health Target 5 – elective treatments
Health Target 4 – Specialist appointments

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"The principal view of human laws is, or ought always to be, to explain, protect, and enforce such rights as are absolute, which in themselves are few and simple."
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The Accidental Engagement
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Making this movie might have been a mistake
Liam Hehir
Why I am retiring from political blogging
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