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mike

Trump and his cronies get ready to ‘protect’ the elections.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/17/trump-speech-midterm-election-voting
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July 18, 2026 8:03am
- Cassandra
  
  That’s the Guardian’s view. The Telegraph has a different take. Chinese dark arts are apparently very active.
  
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  July 18, 2026 8:07am
  - mike
    
    It must be nice to pretend ravings in the Torygraph are actual journalism.
    
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    July 18, 2026 8:11am
    - Nukuleka
      
      Cheer up mike. Whatever it is that prevents you from sleeping at night might just never happen.
      
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      July 18, 2026 8:17am
      - mike
        
        While the USA’s descent into authoritarianism doesn’t keep me awake, it should be of concern to those who believe democracy still has a future.
        
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        July 18, 2026 8:33am
    - Cassandra
      
      And the Guardian is not biased? Somewhere between the two lies the truth. The Times, for example.
      
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      July 18, 2026 8:42am
      - mike
        
        Sure. From The Times:
        
        Trump’s speech on ‘catastrophic election fraud’: five key claims
        The president made a slew of claims about election interference and voter fraud in a live address. His declassified files fell short of evidence to support them
        
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        July 18, 2026 8:53am
      - Cassandra
        
        And read the whole article. It’s quite clear that China and Russia are active, as you’d expect.
        
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        July 18, 2026 8:59am
    - Gary Benner
      
      Mike, I fail to see how VoterID is “authoritarian”. You may wish to elucidate your point of view beyond a typical one-liner. Some background logic as to your thinking and viewpoint would be appreciated, even if not agreed.
      
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      July 18, 2026 8:54am
Cassandra

A Gazan mother of three, who had arrived in the UK as a refugee, was refused permission to bring her extended family by the Home Office.
However, an immigration tribunal has overturned that decision and ruled that the woman can bring her relatives to Britain, claiming that refusing to do so would breach her rights to a family life under the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR).

The woman’s extended family includes her parents, her brother, his wife and four children, her sister and her four children, and another sister, her husband and three children.

There are two million people in Gaza. The UK could keep Trump happy (his son in law can develop it into a Riviera) and recruit a lot of new Labour voters by allowing them all in.
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July 18, 2026 8:04am
- kevn
  
  Cass… The side of that coin.
  https://dailysceptic.org/2026/07/17/the-narrow-focus-on-babies-explains-britains-birth-rate-collapse/
  
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  July 18, 2026 8:59am
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/361007810/former-all-blacks-hospitality-venture-leaves-455k-trail-debt
$201,500 owed to IRD: how many more times will we read such things ? There must be some really bad auditors and managers in IRD. No matter, the rest of us will pay up.
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July 18, 2026 8:17am
- mike
  
  It would be nice to see some statistics about IR’s performance in this regard.
  
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  July 18, 2026 8:24am
  - mike
    
    Such as this:
    https://www.ird.govt.nz/-/media/project/ir/home/documents/about-us/publications/managing-overdue-tax-debt/managing-overdue-tax-debt/managing-overdue-tax-debt—january-to-march-2026.pdf?modified=20260603234405
    
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    July 18, 2026 8:35am
Maggy Wassilieff

Goodness…

old politicians recycling themselves at NZ First

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-labour-minister-rino-tirikatene-joins-nz-first/Y7PIEBVNH5DSZF66WK6GTNODMI/
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