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Cassandra

The Reid poll is bad news. Inexplicable to me but then I have been an Act supporter for ever.

Labour under Hipkins was a failure. National and the Coalition are doing reasonably well. NZ’s problems are largely caused by external factors.

NZ voters are not that bright? I’m an old fogey and Chloe is right about Palestine and the Jews? Is the world mad?

Why does the media think that TOP is not part of the left?
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October 6, 2026 8:01am
- mike
  
  It must be tempting to assume someone’s differing opinion is due to a lack of intelligence.
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:11am
  - Luke Piewalker
    
    @Mike. [Mod – take the abuse elsewhere]
    
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    October 6, 2026 8:25am
- pdm
  
  National is where I expected from my door knocking in Hastings Central for ACT over the last 4 weeks.
  
  Labour and the Greens are way out of kilter from what I have been hearing.
  
  NZFirst about right but ACT shows as about 15% because people are vote splitting – Electorate mainly National (or undecided) Party Vote ACT is very much the way the people I have talked to are thinking.
  
  Not many two ticks for either National or Labour and I think we could see both main parties around the 25% mark on 7 November.
  
  One other thing – most Maori I come across are on the General Roll.
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:14am
- septic skeptic
  
  As I predicted Luxon is proving a big liability in the campaign. 17.1% preferred PM in the RR poll. That is hopeless for a sitting PM. Why the hell could Bishop, Willis, Stanford etc not forsee this and agree on a new leader?
  I hope enough National supporters have more nous than John Key and electorate vote only for National. If we see the National party vote tanking and ACT/NZF rising there is hope.
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:16am
- Frank the tank
  
  National is a complete failure with Luxon and Willis at the helm. They have no feel nor understanding of the real world at the moment. Their election campaign has been run poorly and many rational center-right voters like myself have fled to either Act or NZF.
  
  National is a center-left party now devoid of people that live in the real world and a party of beltway advisors and ex-corporates. When was the last time National had a candidate that was a successful SME business person. Or indeed a politician with a bit of spark or personality.
  
  On the center-left both TOP and Labour do that segment better than National. Last night Labour supported the right to repair legislation that is a no-brainer centralist policy that will restrict overseas corporates from dominating the Automotive sector and pushing out smaller NZ-owned independents. Instead Luxon and Willis want to attack NZ-owned supermarket based on the reckons of insider beltway economists looking for some bucks.
  
  National, unless it evolves post this election is toast. Like the Liberals in Australia, the Conservatives in the UK and CDU in Germany people have become disillusioned with the center right establishment parties as they drift further and further to the left and are populated by corporates and political insiders.
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:17am
- Sensible moderate views
  
  As I said a week ago, the NZME vilification of Labour is a total own goal, simply leading to a rise in support for the greens. That combined with the Mowbrays… hopeless strategy all round. Goodbye Nicola, Chris, Paul, Gerry
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:19am
Tomtoddy

Luxon on Hosking this morning when asked when National will release its fiscal plan responded, “don’t know”. Does this guy have even an ounce of political nous? You never, never say “don’t know” in politics.

National is pulling the centre right down, disaster by disaster.

Hipkins isn’t doing much because he doesn’t need to. He can afford to sit back and let National destroy the CR’s chances with the MSM chipping in to grease the pole. Grasping for all the List votes when you have 43 Electorate MP’s and polling in the mid 20’s is suicidal.
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October 6, 2026 8:03am
- Frank the tank
  
  Correct – this mirrors his position on the Waitangi Tribunal. Fence sitting as opposed to taking a position and demonstrating leadership.
  
  The ONLY way the center right wins the election is 50%+ of center right voters follow the Mowbray plan.
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:20am
- kowtow
  
  And NZME are using that exchange as a “promo” .
  For goodness sake Luxon really is a liabilty.
  
  Funny isn’t it . Under the two Maori ( Bridges and Bennet) leaders of that party ,in there on merit , that party was way more popular than under a pair of white wets , who’re wed to Maorifiaction.
  
  Therein a part of the problem?
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:21am
- Damocles11
  
  He has ‘foot in mouth’ syndrome. Being a corporate hype-man repeating empty slogans may work in the strictly hierarchical and codified Dunning-Kruger world of corporate New Zealand, but it goes down like a lead balloon out in the real world. Luxon just isn’t all over the detail, he can only do the grinning hype and figurehead stuff – although his grin often comes across as more of a grimace.
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:25am
- Scooter
  
  I can’t remember where I heard it, maybe Barry Soper on Heather’s podcast today, said even if National win or lose in November Luxon will resign soon after, either through losing or from his own party by bringing down their ratings so poorly. I’m not so sure, he seems to have more tenacity in staying in power than he does in actually delivering on what he promised.
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:28am
mike

Random election question:
Are there fewer election hoardings on display this year?
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October 6, 2026 8:09am
- septic skeptic
  
  Now you mention it I think so. That’s good, less visual clutter. Maybe they are waking up to the online advertising opportunities.
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:20am
- spryte
  
  I thought so as well. Hopefully it turns into a trend.
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:23am
- Scott
  
  Not in the Wairarapa. There are many posters with the smiling face of Chris Hipkins and his best mate ever, Kieran MacAnulty.
  Also on my YouTube feed I get advertisements inviting me to vote for the Greens and the smiling face of Chloe. Oh the horror!!! 😧
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:24am
Yvette

When the voting age was 21 the state did not spend money trying to persuade electors to enrol. This year the taxpayer is spending $18.1 million on encouraging people to enrol. At the latest count 166,746 18- to 24-year-olds are yet to do so. – Richard Prebble
https://www.brashandmitchell.com/post/richard-prebble-a-grumpy-old-man

If my calculator is correct (so OK – if I am correct) that is $108.55 each, when each of those not registered should be enrolled because that is compulsory (but voting is not) so they face a first instance $100 fine for not being so registered, and $200 thereafter?

Why in fact chase along these people? If they are irresponsible with their New Zealander rights (and duties), who wants them to vote?
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October 6, 2026 8:12am
- mike
  
  Because high voter turnout is good for democracy?
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:18am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Why is it important to “democracy” that people with little interest participate in the decision as to who governs the country?
    
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    October 6, 2026 8:24am
  - Cassandra
    
    Not voting is democracy.
    
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    October 6, 2026 8:26am
  - Tomtoddy
    
    Because high voter turnout is good for the left.
    
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    October 6, 2026 8:27am
    - mike
      
      Good for everyone to have a politically engaged population.
      
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      October 6, 2026 8:29am
- pdm
  
  On Sunday we gave a grand daughter who turns 18 on 5 November advice on what she needs to do to vote. That ball is now in her court.
  
  That the Electoral Commission does not enforce the law is an indictment on their head Le Quesne.
  
  How does that man keep his job?
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:21am
  - mike
    
    I doubt the efficacy of prosecuting for this offence, let alone cost-effectivness.
    
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    October 6, 2026 8:28am
- Frank the tank
  
  Voting should be a privilege more so than a right. There should be some form of effort required as opposed to dropping voting down to the lowest common denominator.
  
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  October 6, 2026 8:23am
infused

Should have rolled lux you absolute numpties..
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October 6, 2026 8:13am
Bobba Fret

As someone said on Newstalk ZB today, I would be happy to vote today and get this election over with rather than have to listen to politician’s go on and on. I’m already sick of it. The next 4-5 weeks seem to be just for the small percentage of undecided voters (and even most of them probably already know if they will vote for a left or right party).
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October 6, 2026 8:16am
AitchW

Because if they don’t chase them there will be howls of outrage from the left that young people couldn’t possibly know that there is an election looming and that they need to enrol.
The left has a very low opinion of its voters.
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