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igm

Barrett and Rennie detractors . . . suck it up!
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October 11, 2026 8:02am
- BarryB
  
  Agree, but a couple of observations:
  1. I dont think Savea was missed at all – Ive thought that he was passed his best.
  2. Surprissed that Scott B lasted as long as he did, but putting the captancy back on him will not be a good thing for either him or the game..
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:02am
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  igm – In previous seasons I thought Jordie Barrett was a bit hit and miss. This year he has been outstanding and in last nights game was phenomenal. Dave Rennie has said the best 12 in world rugby and I would have to agree!
  
  Well done the ABs.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:19am
  - Colville
    
    While it was a good game and he in particular was great it’s far easier to have a blinder against weak opponents.
    Aussie are ranked 6th..Just above Scotland. It’s 20something years since they won the Bledisloe Cup.
    
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    October 11, 2026 9:24am
  - pdm
    
    Huge defensive game from Jordie Barrett but I thought MacKenzie was the attacking star of the backline.
    
    Unusual for Jordan to let two try scoring chances slip away by not committing to the try line when in the clear.
    
    Agree re Savea – I think he has pulled a swifty over the NZRFU. He does not have the work rate of Lakai, Segner or Blackadder these dys and good loose forwards are a `dime a dozen’ in NZ.
    
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    October 11, 2026 10:18am
    - Prince
      
      I found it very odd that Savea didn’t go to South Africa for a couple of weeks.
      What sort of captain doesn’t turn up for the first two games ?
      
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      October 11, 2026 12:07pm
- surfing
  
  Australia were pretty bad, which made NZ look better than they are.
  
  They let us run.
  
  Versus South Africa, who are an actual top tier team who don’t let us play our style .
  
  Still, always nice to beat Australia.
  
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  October 11, 2026 11:02am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  One game doesn’t a season make igm…..
  
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  October 11, 2026 5:21pm
Scott

Some sad news for a Sunday. Another woman has been arrested for stabbing her children and claiming post partum depression:

https://krcrtv.com/news/nation-world/mom-accused-of-stabbing-children-husband-was-experiencing-postpartum-depression-report-attack-baby-toddler-children-attacked-attempted-capital-murder-homicide-investigation-aggravated-assault-with-a-deadly-weapon-mental-health-lindsay-clancy-true-crime?teaserSource=trending

Since Lindsay Clancy was almost acquitted by a jury for the same offence there has been a steady trickle of these stories. Mothers attempting to kill their own children.

Here’s an unpleasant reality. If Lindsay Clancy had been convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment that would have sent a message and I would suggest none of these subsequent events would have happened.
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October 11, 2026 8:10am
- lifesgood
  
  Well not surprising really. Life is so cheap now that even in our fair land babies can be aborted, i.e. murdered at fell term.
  
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  October 11, 2026 11:03am
Cassandra

Winston Peters has announced that he’ll increase the minimum wage by inflation annually and also increase Working for Families.

About $600 million a year. No mention of where it’s coming from.

The centre left just grew by one party. Some might dispute “centre “.
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October 11, 2026 8:33am
- septic skeptic
  
  Winston has always been on the big government interventionist side. From way back when he was a protege of Muldoon.
  
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  October 11, 2026 8:43am
- Simon
  
  Yeah its a mess. The guts of the problem is mass low wage immigration from the third world to lower wages and provide a compliant docile work force for marginal businesses or greedy business owners. Why hire local for basic work when you can have a docile third world worker and pay them low. Also in effect a massive tax subsidy to the business that the rest of NZ has to pay.
  
  Dog eat dog neolib National.
  
  You can move to Aust if you dont like it. This is National party policy.
  
  National low wage economy also a means to deal with inflation. Hence wages are not rising but general prices are. The idea to take the circle out of inflation by hitting workers hard.
  
  There are other problems as well. Mass low wage immigration vs very high numbers on welfare. MSM currently running stories on backward welfare towns around NZ. But in all those towns you can find third world work force while the locals are sitting at home.
  
  NZ first reacting to stupid harmful National while not addressing the real issues.
  
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  October 11, 2026 8:49am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    There’s a legitimate issue here: National removed the AEWV median-wage floor, which may let some firms rely on lower-paid migrant labour rather than improving wages, training or productivity. But the broader claims are overstated. Employers still face market-rate, advertising and—for many lower-skilled jobs—Work and Income requirements.
    
    If you are running an orchard in Kerikeri you are not going to be able to pick your crop drawing on the local army of unemployed in the far north of New Zealand. Simple as that. They are overwhelmingly not fit for those jobs.
    
    Not everyone on Jobseeker Support is work-ready, either, and migrant exploitation is a real problem without labelling people from poorer countries “docile”.
    
    The stronger argument is for robust labour-market testing and enforcement, not stereotyping workers.
    
    Yes immigration policy should always be scrutinised. But there is no evidence that immigration is the cause of low wages in New Zealand. That would be the abysmal productivity performance.
    
    To be honest you lost me when you suggested that the National Party is neoliberal.
    
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    October 11, 2026 11:16am
    - Southern Raider
      
      I saw an advert for a telco technician in Nelson recently which said you needed broad experience across a range of technologies, but only paying $26 to $31 per hour.
      
      That is just one example of someone playing the Immigration NZ game whereby they have advertised the role, stated the salary and know no experienced Kiwi technician will work for what is effectively just above minimum wages
      
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      October 11, 2026 11:58am
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Yep and there are the immigration rackets where certain immigrant groups only hire people from the same racial group and employees therein pay employers for roles that come with settlement deals. There are also the recruitment agencies that give locals the bum’s rush and only deal in immigrants.
        
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        October 12, 2026 4:01pm
    - pdm
      
      Is it migrant exploitation using RSE workers BY?
      
      Everything I see and hear indicates most RSE workers add value to their employers and in a lot of cases want to work from daylight to dark. I have seen it happen where they have to be stopped and sent home at the end of the day.
      
      The money is largely sent home to their family’s and villages in the Islands and when they leave at the end of their contracts they support retailers by buying goods not available in the islands to take home with them.
      
      Win win I think.
      
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      October 11, 2026 12:47pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Well ideally the thousands of unemployed young people would be able to do this work but they mostly cannot. Employing RSE workers requires considerable effort by the orchardists. If they could get the same result with a phone call to work and income they would do that. But you can’t have unwilling, resentful, possibly drug affected young people picking fruit.
        
        Of course there will be exceptions. Those exceptions will not be excluded from work.
        
        There are no short term solutions for the giant underclass of unemployable people. I just know that the current politicians have no medium term solutions either. Certainly not Winston Peters.
        
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        October 11, 2026 1:08pm
      - rouppe
        
        Those exceptions will not be excluded from work.
        
        I suspect they actually are being excluded.
        
        Because picking out the gems among the WINZ clients is far more difficult that just going to RSE.
        
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        October 11, 2026 3:00pm
  - Taieri
    
    But in all those towns you can find third world work force while the locals are sitting at home
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    A very good point.
    
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    October 11, 2026 11:21am
  - greybeard
    
    “The guts of the problem is mass low wage immigration from the third world ”
    Rubbish: the “guts of the problem” is the fact that taxpayers are paying for thousands of perfectly healthy people, mainly young, to sit around doing nothing or getting stoned and interfering in other peoples’ lives.
    The NZ Welfare State has to be stopped.
    
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    October 11, 2026 6:49pm
  - waikatosinger
    
    The lefty government prints too much money and screws over the economy on behalf of the entitled class in Wellington. And the cure for this is apparently to drive down wages and hammer ordinary New Zealanders. The people who cause the problem are never the ones who pay.
    
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    October 11, 2026 9:45pm
- Albie
  
  That now just leaves the ACT party as the ONLY party that takes our debt problem seriously.
  
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  October 11, 2026 8:58am
  - pdm
    
    As has always been the case Albie.
    
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    October 11, 2026 10:24am
    - RoboRob
      
      Historically National has cared, Hell even clark and Cullen worked to pay down debt.
      
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      October 11, 2026 10:42am
      - R
        
        Cullen didn’t.!
        
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        October 11, 2026 3:07pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        History lesson for R …. 🙂
        
        https://chatgpt.com/share/6acaf4e4-1150-83ec-9257-e999bccab1eb
        
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        October 11, 2026 3:35pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        What did I get the downtick for?
        
        The chatgpt summary basically said that he ran surpluses and repaid debt and stuff. Net debt at handover time was essentially zero – although “net debt” was actual debt minus what he had parked into the super fund – out of the surpluses.
        
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        October 11, 2026 7:38pm
- R
  
  Winston has always been an OPPORTUNIST. His interests always come first!
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:02am
  - igm
    
    A vote for Winston is a vote for Hipkins and degenerates. Once a charlatan always a charlatan.
    
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    October 11, 2026 10:14am
- imalwaysright
  
  There is a term for people who aren’t worth the minimum wage– unemployed.
  
  The higher the minimum wage, the more unemployed.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:02am
  - RoboRob
    
    The higher the minimum wage the more economical investing in tech and robots becomes.
    
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    October 11, 2026 10:44am
    - kowtow
      
      or more visas from low trust , lower wage economies.
      
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      October 11, 2026 11:21am
    - Taieri
      
      more economical investing in tech and robots becomes
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      Is that what the Filipino farm workers down South are?
      
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      October 11, 2026 11:22am
      - Dougal10
        
        They are getting replaced by tech pretty dam fast , the cow collar industry is replacing 1000s of workers in low value jobs with hi tech ones.
        
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        October 11, 2026 1:29pm
    - artemisia
      
      New Zealand is selling very smart apple packhouse robotics successfully here and overseas, US in particular. That was once done by a lot of humans.
      
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      October 11, 2026 3:57pm
  - artemisia
    
    And the more unemployed, the more unemployable. What employer will take on the unskilled and inexperienced, esp with a poor attitude. The latter might be mostly due to ignorance of what getting up and going to work means.
    
    Some variety of work for the dole is needed if only to show what work actually is and that they have to show up. I have mentioned before rellies in Australia on the dole time to time and are required to do 15 hours a week voluntary work. One worked for the council plant nursery next suburb over, the other did filing and other paperwork for a local charity.
    
    Seems IRD (and others) are looking to lay off hundreds in the next few years. Some of them, if on Jobseeker, would be highly valuable free labour to local charities.
    
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    October 11, 2026 11:21am
    - Taieri
      
      Some variety of work for the dole is needed if only to show what work actually is and that they have to show up
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      Make the dole time limited.
      
      “He who does not work, neither shall he eat”
      
      2 Thessalonians 3:10
      
      and as often repeated by the formerly Esteemed Comrade V.I. Ulyanov.
      
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      October 11, 2026 11:27am
      - Fender
        
        Food stamps not cash would solve this
        
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        October 11, 2026 2:10pm
      - rouppe
        
        Those can be traded too…
        
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        October 11, 2026 3:02pm
- Colville
  
  It’s a pity that Winston just can’t help himself. He puts up policy just to run counter to ACT and Seymour.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:25am
- cmm (semi-retired edition)
  
  The single dimension of Left vs Right is just too simplistic to be meaningful.
  
  I am less concerned with inflation linking the minimum wage and WFF than I am with inflation linking tax brackets.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:52am
  - RoboRob
    
    Ironically it is easy to get support for indexing benefits and the minimum wage but impossible to index tax rates.
    
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    October 11, 2026 10:45am
- kowtow
  
  The 800,000 two tick blue types could make a huge difference by not wasting that party vote ,on current polling, and giving it to Act .
  
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  October 11, 2026 10:16am
- pb
  
  Just make it harder to get, and keep the total $ the same. So, you want a payment? First dig out this new highway and then chip these large basalt boulders into building stones.
  
  https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1930/10/en/latest/#LMS1394770
  
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  October 11, 2026 10:19am
- pdm
  
  Peters – the only man who knows how to turn the economy around (well so he says anyway).
  
  Yet at the same time he wants to destroy small businesses and waste $30Billion buying back the BNZ which is not for sale anyway.
  
  Party Vote ACT to keep NZFirst under control I say.
  
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  October 11, 2026 10:22am
  - R
    
    How many businesses has Winston floated, or managed, or held directorship of. That total sums up his experience, and business and economics accumin.
    
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    October 11, 2026 12:33pm
- surfing
  
  Increasing by inflation is effectively keeping the same rate.
  
  We should of course be doing the same with the tax thresholds.
  
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  October 11, 2026 11:04am
AitchW

A vote for Peters is a vote for Labour.
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October 11, 2026 8:35am
- Simon
  
  What rubbish. Any time National wants harmful stupid legislation passed that ACT / NZ First dont like National go running off to Labour.
  
  Labour are an extension of National. Labour are just smarter at looking after their base as well as paying out money to their mates. Labour are just more corrupt version of National.
  
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  October 11, 2026 8:57am
  - surfing
    
    I’ll fix for you…
    
    “Labour are just more corrupt and incompetent version of National.”
    
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    October 11, 2026 11:05am
- septic skeptic
  
  It is telling that Winston thinks the cost of living crisis (in reality a productivity crisis) can be fixed by the government legislating for higher minimum wages and WFF. The latter shifting more of the tax burden on to singles and couples without children.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:19am
  - R
    
    Skeptic…..its NOT shifting the tax burden, those on low wages don’t pay NET TAX. What Winston, and Labour, are proposing WILL increase the costs for the lower paid people. That’s not helpful, as the motivated people’s tax may havev to increase to cover higher benefits
    
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    October 11, 2026 10:21am
mike

Someone is very upset about not getting the Nobel Peace Prize:
“The United States of America, represented by me as your president, should have received the Nobel peace prize, but didn’t. And this is an indelible stain on the country of Norway, and those people that made such a disgraceful and embarrassing decision,”
“The Nobel peace prize has been forever discredited by a handful of radical ideologues who are anti-democracy and really enemies of civilization,”
“We will not forget, Norway, that you didn’t give this prize.”
“Additionally, I stopped Iran from having a nuclear weapon and blowing up the entire Middle East and ultimately far beyond the Middle East, including Europe, perhaps the US and I saved more lives than anyone in history,”
“Despite all of this and all of these unbelievable accomplishments, the Nobel prize was given out today to a liberal person who works at the United Nations, who nobody has ever heard of,”
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October 11, 2026 8:35am
- Simon
  
  Its just slop Mike. Pure theatre. Not surprised you have been caught hook line & sinker.
  
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  October 11, 2026 8:59am
- BarryB
  
  From time to time Trump does come up with very apt statements.
  He was at some midwestern city when he said that if Iran got a nuclear bomb that they could take out Los Angelos or San Diego.
  Some parts of california are very nice, and the whole state would be much better without L.A.., especially south L.A. The only trouble by using a nuclear bomb to clean the place out would be the radiation – but Im sure that would have an upside.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:10am
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  How can he be such a massive blowhard narcissist yet completely correct at the same time?
  Shocked, shocked I say.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:17am
  - Hard Cheese
    
    “I saved more lives than anyone in history”. Yeah, that’s completely correct 🙄
    
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    October 11, 2026 11:03am
    - rouppe
      
      He’s used the same measure that Jacinda Ardern did when tooting how many nz lives she saved.
      
      Reckons…
      
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      October 11, 2026 3:05pm
    - keepcalmcarryon
      
      Therefore everything he says is incorrect?
      The world must be so simple when everything is black and white.
      
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      October 11, 2026 5:36pm
- septic skeptic
  
  “The nominees are:
  Donald Trump
  Vladimir Putin
  Benjamin Netanyahu
  
  and the winner is…(rustles envelope)…
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:23am
- David George
  
  That that Jahidi apologist woman came to be awarded the Nobel peace prize is a monstrous travisty
  She has been accused of actually being complicit in the Uyghur genocide. Under her leadership, the UN Human Rights Office handed over dissidents’ names to China and refused to heed warnings about the danger to them and their families.
  
  “Pillay is as pro-dictator and pro-cruelty as you can be. But her true agenda, and the evidence of her vast undeservingness for any peace prize worth its salt, is most evident in her flirtations with anti-Semitism.
  “Pillay is, of course, a virulent genocide-libeller. It’s her life, actually: she was the one who oversaw a report that accused Israel, falsely, of committing genocide in Gaza after October 7. The damage she has done by sending this libel into the world parcelled as a UN report is incalculable and will be felt for decades, if not centuries, to come.
  
  Even pre-October 7, she repeatedly campaigned hard, as a supposedly impartial investigator, to smear and punish Israel before looking at any evidence. She chaired a UN Commission of Inquiry into alleged Israeli crimes, but had previously signed a manifesto calling on governments to: “Sanction Apartheid Israel.”
  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/10/10/the-nobel-peace-prize-is-now-totally-discredited/
  Paywalled, sorry.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:38am
  - MCōs
    
    As with most Nobel prize winners, including the peace prize I’d never heard of Navi Pillay, but once I read she was critical of Israel I knew a litany of criticism would soon follow.
    
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    October 11, 2026 10:15am
    - R
      
      A litany of TRUTHS followed, ……..not criticism
      
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      October 11, 2026 10:24am
Yvette

Quake and tsunami monitoring centre closed for hours due to staff shortages
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics/1827032/quake-and-tsunami-monitoring-centre-closed-for-hours-due-to-staff-shortages

The Minister was warned …

June 2025
Quake, tsunami monitoring at risk from job cuts
Analysts watching around the clock for natural hazards threatening NZ are due to be laid off despite experts warning of the risks
https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/06/12/non-stop-hazards-monitoring-at-risk-from-job-cuts/

But why is it that when cuts are made, staff seem to be removed from areas which will cause maximum embarrassment or consequences to Ministers involved?
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October 11, 2026 8:55am
- R
  
  In my working life, I have only ever heard of one manager, who tasked with a review of the organisation’s structure; demonstrated that his section and post were an unnecessary impediment. Following the restructuring by the board, he found himself as the managing director. Honesty has its rewards.
  PS……THIS DIDNT HAPPEN IN NZ.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:06am
- Isobar
  
  …. because the minister ignored the advice?
  
  National said they would not cut from the front line. This role is very much front line.
  
  The minister could have stepped in at any time to prevent this.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:17am
  - pdm
    
    The problem is National insisted on leaving the decisions on staff cuts to the CEO’s.
    
    Front line staff went instead of backroom lackeys.
    
    Predictable but Willis and Luxon could not see it.
    
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    October 11, 2026 11:12am
    - septic skeptic
      
      The first thing they should have done is sit down with all of these CEOs and find out if they were onboard with the required changes. If there was any doubt then they needed to replace them by whatever means necessary.
      
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      October 11, 2026 11:50am
    - Isobar
      
      Yep probably. But thats on them and their lack of leadership.
      
      However they were warned, in earlier the link shared it was clear that would be the consequence of proceeding with the cuts, they still wanted to proceed.
      
      So, personally i still believe that the government of the day and its ministers should be held accountable, either through their actions or inactions.
      
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      October 11, 2026 2:07pm
- Spam
  
  It’s what the blob does. Need to preserve their fiefdoms.
  
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  October 11, 2026 10:07am
- rouppe
  
  I do wonder what value they provide.
  
  They can’t predict earthquakes. All they do is say “that was a 4.1” or something which has an interest value of about 20 minutes. If one at 8.5 were to happen, we’d not really care, we’d be more worried about surviving.
  
  They’ve gotten tsunami warnings wrong a few times recently. “Stay away from the shoreline” is the call as a ripple of a few centimetres comes to shore.
  
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  October 11, 2026 3:11pm
MCōs

Remember
All promises made during the election campaign are forgotten on election night
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October 11, 2026 9:02am
- imalwaysright
  
  Its a farce.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:05am
R

All election promises in a coalition system have a sunset clause. …..
Midnight before the vote.
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October 11, 2026 9:08am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I don’t think that claim would stand up to any scrutiny. Can you support it with any analysis of the election promises in recent elections, compared to the stances of the parties at coalition negotiations?
  
  I think that what you are claiming is a fiction.
  
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  October 11, 2026 11:23am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Rhetorical.
    
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    October 11, 2026 12:21pm
  - Jethrod
    
    I think it was made with a bit of tongue in cheek
    
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    October 11, 2026 12:36pm
Southern Raider

Labour is now officially campaigning for Palestine

Palestinian flags being flown at several official Labour election tents AND promising to set up special visa pathways for Palestinians

Suggest people read up on what happened when Palestinians were let into Jordan, Lebanon and Israel. Plus the recently released figures from Scandinavia where over half of all Palestinians had criminal offences.

48% of working age Muslims in the UK don’t work and are on benefits. Same would happen if more Palestinians came here.
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October 11, 2026 9:08am
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  Got a source for that 48% figure?
  
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  October 11, 2026 11:56am
  - kowtow
    
    AI Says
    
    ‘41.9% of working-age Muslims are classified as economically inactive (meaning they are not in work and not currently seeking work, which includes students and those looking after family or home), compared to the general population average.’
    
    Another stat is the prison muster ;
    
    “• 18.0% – 18.2% of the total prison population (according to recent data from the Ministry of Justice / HMPPS Offender Equalities Report).
    • Comparison to General Population: Muslims make up roughly 6.5% of the general population in England and Wales….”
    
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    October 11, 2026 1:33pm
  - CJames
    
    typing question into the search engine got this
    Census 2021: working-age Muslims 51% employed vs 71% overall. 42% inactive (mainly homemakers/students, not all on benefits). Pakistani/Bangladeshi groups (largely Muslim) show higher income-related benefit rates (23-… / X
    but then Grok doubts the figure saying they don’t track beneficiaries by religion.
    
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    October 11, 2026 2:03pm
Pineapple Lumps

Great to see Liam Lawson place 5th in the Sprint and Qualify 9th in Singapore overnight. He is making a good case to retain his spot for next year. I think if he had been performing at Lindblads level he would have been dropped already.
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October 11, 2026 9:30am
- All_on_Red
  
  He’s been earning good points (69). Racing Bulls are currently 5th, which is worth around $35-50m in Prize Money.
  I think they will keep him next year and he gets a pay rise.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:46am
Master Mariner

A thought provoking pod cast much aligned to my thinking as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBSSFrtgxKI

The rise of Cultural Marxism In 5 Minutes | Heydel Mankoo
“The new foot soldiers are the minorities”.
If you want to understand NZ today, This sums it up nicely.
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October 11, 2026 10:09am
Master Mariner

If anything stipulates that we as a country must have a neutral Foreign policy then this is why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwjjrQPYx80

Donald Trump strikes controversial diesel deal with Russia
What alternative is there ?, Nato and Ukraine blowing up Russian refineries is a Zero Sum Game with absolutely 100% consequences for NZ.
Meanwhile 40-50% ME refineries are unoperable.
Surely this is not controversial at all but was always going to be the outcome in the long run.
Why let Nato create a scorched earth policy for all SE countries including NZ.
Finally some common sense out of the US after the continuouly Disasterous ME Policy regarding Iran.
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October 11, 2026 10:19am
- Hard Cheese
  
  What alternatives are there? Get the fuck out of Iran is the obvious one
  
  Anyway, the Trump deal won’t make a blind bit of difference to the price of diesel. 300,000 tonnes of diesel is about 15 hours of US daily consumption. His criticism of Ukraine and Zelenskyy is not going to make them stop hitting Russian refineries with drones, if anything it will make the problem worse. Who would have guessed?
  
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  October 11, 2026 11:15am
  - septic skeptic
    
    If he wants Zelensky to stop hitting the Russian refineries he will need to prostrate himself before Putin and beg and bribe him into not attacking the Ukraine power infrastructure.
    America is aligning itself with Russia and the rest of the West should recognize this and start their own power block.
    
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    October 11, 2026 11:56am
  - kowtow
    
    Perhaps if Iran wasn’t in Lebanon , Syria , Iraq , Yemen and Gaza fomenting Forever Wars towards the Endtime……..
    
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    October 11, 2026 12:58pm
Quail

A couple of Rural matters that may be of interest to many:
Firstly .another meat processing plant is shutting down because of livestock shortage.
The decline in sheep numbers ( in particular) is about to bite the New Zealand economy hard.
Secondly: National are now expressing concern about dogs being locked up for too long. My view , backed by the ever increasing list of damage done to both humans and other animals by dogs ,is that owners should know where and what their dogs are doing at all times . That is responsible ownership
Encouraging more freedom for these potentially dangerous animals is simply nuts!
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October 11, 2026 10:42am
Taieri

The Green Party says it will guarantee a job for every young New Zealander aged 16 to 24 who has been out of work for six months or more.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/greens-plan-would-guarantee-jobs-for-all-young-people-lflvyz90

Wonder what’s next? A job guarantee for every New Zealander aged 16 to 100+ ?
May be dusting empty shelves in the new state owned supermarkets…
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October 11, 2026 11:34am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Will they be offered work or be compelled to work?
  
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  October 11, 2026 1:12pm
  - rouppe
    
    More to the point, what job? I’d predict they would be “make work” jobs, costing hundreds of millions (all at living wage) that don’t improve GDPQ
    
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    October 11, 2026 3:16pm
- wsk12345
  
  That sounds awesome. If they want to work we will find you something appropriate. If you do t want to work we will find you something appropriate as well. The latter will likely be jobs such.as picking up garbage and maintaining areas the councils don’t maintain ie jobs that don’t matter, can’t cause damage but require the wastrels to get up and show up, drug free.
  
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  October 11, 2026 1:39pm
- kevn
  
  Taieri…. I immediately thought it was a satirical piece.
  
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  October 11, 2026 2:18pm
- xasperated
  
  Isn’t guaranteed work just a different way of saying put them in the army? Enforced work, showing up on time, not being stoned or drunk. They’ll be running at knots to avoid that.
  
  Though I do remember spending 6 months pruning pine trees. Out in the woods… largely unsupervised….
  
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  October 11, 2026 5:02pm
- MCōs
  
  Considering 85% of the punters will cast their votes elsewhere these minor parties will individually can promise whatever they like and not worry too much about the consequences
  
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  October 11, 2026 5:11pm
- Spam
  
  Kind-of sounds like “work for the dole”. I thought they were against that?
  
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  October 11, 2026 5:13pm
  - MCōs
    
    ‘Work for the dole’ insinuates work and renumeration will be provided by the state.
    
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    October 11, 2026 5:50pm
Handyman

The Green party just lost a bjg chunk of its support base by threatening to provide work for long term unemployed.
I predict a massive swing to the TOP party with its promise of Universal Basic Income.
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October 11, 2026 11:58am
In Vino Veritas

A few days ago, someone asked where UK billionaires have been going to when they leave (because of high taxes, inheritance tax etc).
Well, in the last 2 years, these billionaires have all left the UK.
Lakshmi Mittal – Switzerland
Shravin Mittal – UAE
John Fredrikson – UAE
Mohamed Mansour – Egypt
Ian & Richard Livingstone – Monaco
Nassef Sawiris – between Italy and UAE
Troels Holch Povlsen – Denmark
Guillaume Pousaz – Monaco
Ian Howard – Switzerland
John Reece – Monaco
Anne Beaufour – Switzerland
Chris Rokos – Greece
Jeremy Coller – Switzerland
Leonidas & Nicholas Lazari – Cyprus

Rokos alone paid enough annual tax to cover 30,000 average UK earners tax.
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October 11, 2026 12:25pm
- kevn
  
  IVV… (some) NZ pollies making sure no UK billionaires end up here.
  
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  October 11, 2026 4:04pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Not too many of your actual British-born names there.
  
  How many of them made their fortunes in the UK, by employing Brits?
  
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  October 11, 2026 6:53pm
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Doesn’t matter. Their tax domicile was UK.
    
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    October 11, 2026 7:56pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/361044930/nz-election-2026-live-updates-politics-campaign-news

I am not sure what depresses me more: the neverending, reckless, pie-in-the-sky promises made by the Greens or the mentality of their supporters as evidenced in the comments.
There is a large section of NZ’s society which has been well and truly brainwashed. Frightening and sad , at the same time.
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October 11, 2026 12:40pm
Maggy Wassilieff

David Harvey exposes the inanity of the Billionaire-Morality question.

The parasites of the Left – those who question the morality of wealth and who would redistribute it – use the coercive power of the State to deprive the wealthy of that to which they are legitimately entitled. One should ask whether that is moral.

https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2026/10/david-harvey-stupid-question.html#comment-form
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October 11, 2026 12:49pm
Benedict Yu

As the election nears, all Parties, with the possible exception of ACT, are just making up policies, most of them incoherent, stupid, or both.

These folk have three years to come up with plans, and this is the best they can do? Honestly we are doomed.
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October 11, 2026 2:16pm
- kevn
  
  BY… Indeed, it almost embarrasing to watch it unfolding.
  
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  October 11, 2026 2:24pm
- AitchW
  
  I’m more perplexed by the unwavering support for Palestine shown by Labour, the Greens, and TPM.
  Is antisemitism now acceptable in our politicians?
  
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  October 11, 2026 2:33pm
  - Hugh Jarse
    
    Only to those on the left.
    
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    October 11, 2026 9:54pm
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Quite right Benedict. It is absolute madness. A race to the bottom. To be fair, I sit back and laugh about it.
  
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  October 11, 2026 2:48pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Just when you thought she’d gone… the bogie lady appears

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/election-2026-dame-jacinda-ardern-enters-the-election-debate/PYWRPG3I3BHY7EYXMLXBXHLNCA/
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October 11, 2026 2:19pm
- kevn
  
  Maggy…OMG, help or hinder?
  Anyone around during her reign?
  
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  October 11, 2026 2:22pm
- graham
  
  Some people have commented that we should “get over her” as she’s no longer PM, she’s long gone, etc.
  
  But she isn’t.
  
  Former Prime Minister Dame Jacinda Ardern has broken her relative silence on New Zealand politics to record a video urging people to support the Labour Party and asking them to donate to its election campaign.
  
  Ardern has been living overseas for most of the time since leaving politics and currently resides in Australia.
  
  So even though she no longer lives in New Zealand, Ms Ardern still wants to influence how our country is run, and by whom.
  
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  October 11, 2026 4:07pm
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  Hi Maggy, it’s great that the narcissistic JA feels she will help by wading in, ignoring the fact she can’t live in NZ because she is widely disliked. It is my theory that the more she speaks the more Hipkins etc will drop in the polls.
  
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  October 11, 2026 5:03pm
  - R
    
    That the zlabour Party have to resort to troting out a recent past failure shows how desperate they are fir publicity
    
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    October 11, 2026 7:51pm
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Please please please, can Helen now come in as well and maybe Grant to voice their opinions ?, nothing like a trifecta of has beens to sway the popular vote. As long as these people choose to pop their heads above the parapet to promote their party then they make themselves open to continued criticism’s
  
  Pineapple lumps, she can live in NZ, I am sure there are any number of lovely neighbourhoods in Auckland housing multi millionaires she could move to, she chooses to live on the northern beaches in Sydney.
  
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  October 11, 2026 9:52pm
kevn

Maggie… He has ‘a plan’…
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/election-2026-labour-promises-fresh-school-lunches-and-rural-bus-routes/INRF6XM4BVD65LUEWKFCZF5M34/
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October 11, 2026 2:20pm
Spam

…and, according to the Greens, reducing tax is now referred to as “welfare”.
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October 11, 2026 5:18pm
Quail

Winston Churchill’ s “blood .toil sweat & tears speech would not fit at all well into today’s NZ politics.
To be fair though , it is not NZ voters demanding the Pork barrel incentives, it is todays Politicians trying to buy their way back into power.
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October 11, 2026 5:30pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/361044998/trump-floats-idea-renaming-ocean-after-himself
Why stop at a mere ocean ?
How about renaming the world after himself ?
Suggestions gladly accepted !
Note: must include some sort of allusion to Orange, Golf, Nuts, Daddy’s Money, Crazy, Senile, Pussy.
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October 11, 2026 6:43pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Yeah it’s kind of cringy theatre but best to focus on the bigger picture.
  
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