General Debate 27 October 2025
I got sent a link to this website about Naenae College.
I have no first or even second hand knowledge about Naenae College, except I note that it is about to implement an enrolment scheme, which usually happens because too many students want to attend.
What struck me about the website is how absolutely detailed it is. It is not uncommon to have criticism sites set up, but this one is incredibly detailed, even getting into faculty level details.
I’m somewhat puzzled by the motivation of the person behind it. If you’re a parent, you don’t tend to care once your kids are no longer there. My guess is a former long serving staff member, but I may be wrong.
A guest post by Lucy Rogers:
At the moment, different sides on the Israel/ Palestine conflict are accusing each other either of antisemitism on the one hand or of weaponising claims of antisemitism to silence criticism of Israel on the other. Anti-Israel Westerners then say that criticism of Israel is not hostility to Jewish people in general. (Checkmate!)
And the truth is that I do not think that most Westerners who hate Israel would be hostile to a Jewish person in (say) a social context such as a dinner party. In other words, I think there are a significant proportion of people who hate Israel who are not antisemitic per se. But I also believe that the vast majority of the anti-Israel movement in the Western world is intellectually dishonest (with the caveat that of course movements are diverse, and I am not accusing them all of this).
And that, not “antisemitism”, is what we ought to call out, because the fact that they are intellectually dishonest is so obvious that it’s beyond argument, whereas accusations of antisemitism just run into the above problems.
It is intellectually dishonest to organise a protest against Israel three days after the Hamas massacre of civilians on October 7 2023. That is what the Palestine Solidarity Network Aotearoa (PSNA) did:
It is intellectually dishonest to accuse Israel of “genocide” three days after October 7 before it had even started its counteroffensive in Gaza, which is what the PSNA did.
It is intellectually dishonest to expand the definition of genocide for political purposes because you know that Israel’s actions do not meet that threshold, which is what Ireland did (and which Chloe Swarbrick does on a daily basis): https://news.sky.com/story/icj-asked-to-broaden-definition-of-genocide-over-collective-punishment-in-gaza-13271874
It is intellectually dishonest to turn up to a pro-Palestine protest with a transgender flag, which protesters in Auckland do constantly: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ixkqumttrQM
It is intellectually dishonest to call for a ceasefire every week for the past two years, but when Israel accepted the terms of a ceasefire last week proposed by Donald Trump not to call on Hamas to accept the deal, which is what the PSNA in Auckland did.
It is intellectually dishonest to call weekly for a ceasefire while in the next breath calling for an intifada, which is what the PSNA does constantly. (There were 138 suicide bombings during the Second Intifada, primarily targeting Israeli civilians.)
It is intellectually dishonest for the anti-Israel protesters to criticise Israeli human rights abuses against Palestinians, but not to so much as mention the mass protests by Gazans against Hamas earlier this year when they risked their lives to stand against Hamas, which is what the PSNA in Auckland did.
It is intellectually dishonest for the anti-Israel protesters to put up posters in Auckland describing detained activists who sought to violate Israel’s naval blockade on Gaza as “abducted”, while never once ever publicly calling on Hamas to release the Israeli hostages: https://israelinstitute.nz/2025/10/the-moral-bankruptcy-of-the-flotilla-activists/
It is intellectually dishonest for the self-same people who obsess over an American border wall with Mexico (“no human being is illegal”) and accuse anyone who believes in national borders of being a racist not to say a single word about Egypt’s border wall preventing Palestinian refugees from fleeing Gaza.
The intellectual dishonesty and limitless hypocrisy of the likes of Max Harris I have expounded here: https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/guest_post_response_to_max_harris.html
And if it’s screamingly obvious that a significant proportion of (but not all) anti-Israel protesters are intellectually dishonest, the question naturally arises as to why exactly that is. I’m not sure the answer is antisemitism per se. But I’m certain there’s much more to it than a genuine concern for truth.
Conclusion: accusations of antisemitism just fall afoul of the banal response that criticism of Israel is not hatred of Jews. In my opinion, we should stop accusing them of antisemitism and start accusing them of being intellectually dishonest. They have no answer to that, because they are.
The Post reports:
About one in five ACT local candidates won the seats they stand for and party leader David Seymour says he’s happy more weren’t successful because now they can stand to run for Parliament.
“In some cases, I was kind of hoping they wouldn’t get elected so we can run them next year,” he told The Post.
In total, ACT ran 46 candidates in 25 councils at ward and constituency levels from Northland to Otago, including nine candidates in Auckland Local Board positions. It was the party’s first attempt at local government.
Candidates signed up to a set of ACT values, like lower rates, reducing “waste” and opposing the push to “get people out of their cars”. They fundraised for their own campaigns, but were supported by the party machine.
On provisional results, it appears nine were elected
Getting 20% of your candidates elected is a pretty reasonable result for the first time a party has contested local elections.
So long as National doesn’t contest local elections (or even provide guidance on who is worth supporting) I suspect ACT Local candidates will do better and better, as the brand will be a guide to fiscal responsibility.
A good article by Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger on how to fix its liberal bias.
I find Wikipedia excellent for non-political topics, especially in history, science, entertainment etc. But it does have a significant liberal bias on political topics.
An interesting chart from Yahoo:
I found this very interesting. It is no surprise perhaps that Justices have backed emergency requests from the Government of the President whose party appointed them. The range is from 96% (Alito, Gorsuch) down to 78% (Roberts).
What is more interesting is how often they have backed an emergency request from the Government of a President from the other side. In order the percentages are:
I think this reflects well on Roberts, Barrett, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.
Radio NZ reports:
LGNZ president Sam Broughton told Morning Report part of the reason for low turnout was voters having to deal with postal voting in the digital age, or not having access to polling places and not knowing the candidates.
The Electoral Commission should run all the elections in a standardised process across the country, he said.
“One of the key recommendations is that we should return to having a polling day, as well as the open voting beforehand,” he said.
These are all worthwhile things, but won’t change things much. The one change that would massively lift turnout is allowing people to return their voting paper via the Internet.
By this I don’t mean Internet voting, which is where you vote on a website, and your vote is recorded and tallied over the Internet. I mean simply using the Internet to deliver your ballot paper to the Returning Officer.
Every resident gets a voting paper with a unique barcode that identifies them (so verifies they are enrolled). What I propose is that once they have completed it, they can take a photo of it on their phone, and then either e-mail the ballot to the Returning Office, or upload it via a website to the returning officer.
This is in fact more secure than relying on the post, as you get a receipt acknowledging it has been received.
And this method has actually been in place for the last few general elections – it is how the vast majority of NZers overseas vote in a general election. I estimate over 200,000 New Zealanders have used this method to vote in general elections.
Postal voting is a dying mechanism. Booth voting can help, but you’re still going to have much lower turnout than general elections, as the stakes are less. You need to make it as easy as possible to vote, and sending in your ballot via the Internet (which is not Internet voting) is a tried and tested method we have used for the last four or more general elections.
See if you can guess which UK MP this is. Guesses welcome in the comments.
Unheard reports:
Brewdog has sold an £8.8 million Scottish forest it acquired just five years ago as part of its Net Zero drive after mounting losses forced it to cut spending. …
The site, a former grouse moor known as the Kinrara Estate, was acquired by the brewer in 2020 to help with its Net Zero credentials. At the time, the Scottish brewer had grand plans to plant millions of trees and turn it into Scotland’s “biggest ever” forest.
However the initial planting was a failure because the trees died and Brewdog had now sold the estate to rewilding outfit, Oxygen Conservation.
“The time is right to hand over the reins to an organisation that specialises in protecting and investing in natural capital,” Brewdog said.
Under then-chief executive James Watt, the company said the project would help it become the world’s first carbon negative beer brand and be funded partly by sales of its Lost Forest beer.
However Brewdog, which rose to prominence for its eye-catching stunts, was forced to retract many of the claims about the forest after unveiling the purchase to much fanfare.
These included admitting that the estate was actually 9,142 acres rather than over 12,000 acres as claimed and that the site would absorb much less CO2 annually than original expected.
The move signals Brewdog’s bid to revive its fortunes and focus on its main brewing business after a slide in sales.
The company’s latest accounts showed it posted a loss of £37 million last year, the fifth consecutive year of losses.
A brewer that sticks to brewing would be rather sensible!
María Corina Machado won the Nobel Peace Prize. Here’s a few things about her.
The Post reports:
Ben McNulty puts securing his record-breaking number of votes and big margin over his rivals down to communication.
It appears he has secured the highest single number of votes for a ward councillor and the biggest margin over his rivals since the single-transferable voting system came in.
“I was talking to my wife [and said] ‘this is wild’. I kind of couldn’t believe the numbers as they came through,” the Labour councillor and Takapū/Northern ward councillor said.
I’m not hugely surprised. Ben is constantly communicating with residents. He posts regularly on all the neighbourhood Facebook groups (which most residents belong to) and tells people what is happening, what is coming up, what has been decided, how he voted etc. He doesn’t do so in a campaigning way (although he is, of course) but in an explaining way. He does AMAs on Reddit, and is a constant presence in his communities.
Liam Hehir writes:
The clash between the Broadcasting Standards Authority and The Platform has exposed a troubling reality in New Zealand’s system of government: ministers can now routinely hide behind the mantra of “operational matters” to avoid accountability for regulatory overreach happening on their watch.
Minister for Media and Communications Paul Goldsmith’s refusal to engage with the BSA’s bold attempt to extend its jurisdiction over internet content represents not principled adherence to constitutional convention, but an abdication of ministerial responsibility that demands a remedy in the form of either a change in approach or a change in minister.
When the BSA announced its interpretation that an outdated Broadcasting Act gave it authority to regulate internet platforms, it was reasonable for us to expect the responsible minister to respond.
This is more than an administrative decision about processing a complaint within a widely accepted framework. It was instead a fundamental expansion of state regulatory power into new territory, on the basis of a view for which there is no consensus, with profound implications for free speech and internet freedom.
It was incredibly frustration to see Goldsmith declare a preference to let things “flow through the system” and making only broadly supportive noises about the BSA. In short, the Minister has acted as if he was the BSA’s representative to the people and not the other way around.
Worth reading the entire article, but I think it nicely captures the frustration so many of us feel on this issue.
I am well and truly documented as being no fan at all of the teacher unions (PPTA/NZEI). The nature of the collective contract – that assumes all teachers are of the same quality and prevents schools with greater need providing any incentives for staff – is a major handbrake on the quality of our education system.
After a two day education summit I organised in Cambridge in 2022, with some outstanding people (and the, to be Minister Stanford in attendance), I compiled a summary of recommendations and tabled it while presenting at the 2023 Economic Forum at Waikato University. A summary is here.
Of high relevance at present is this one:
8) Deal quickly and effectively with the Union demands after the next election. They offer nothing helpful to the dialogue so throw them a bone and walk on.
The Minister has signalled plenty of changes and made some. Some are positive and could be effective – others – such as the significant alienation of Maori through the bizarre work of Elizabeth Rata, and many process breaches – will only be damaging. The sheer volume of work and pace of change is also highly problematic – as is the major split between schools who are positive about a new qualifications system and more that are not.
To bring about significant change you need the teachers on your side – you need to carry the sector. It is no use telling them to just “suck it up and get on with it” – as they have alternatives – e.g. heading off to Australia, protest action, just ignoring changes in their teaching practice.
It is no use telling them that there is no money available as, if the Minister was serious on that front, there would not still be nearly 4,000 Ministry of Education FTE’s with vastly superior contracts to teachers (including OT, call-out payments, etc).
The teacher unions are a well known and predictabe animal. You don’t stand in a cage with a hungry lion and just give them a bit of beef jerky. If you want to survive you either shoot them (but there is no political will/courage to do away with the collective contract and truly challenge Union power) … or give them a decent meal so you can get on with cleaning the cage.
With inflation still running near 3%, plus all of the demands being put on teachers, the person/people who kicked off this fiasco by offering seondary teachers a salary rise of 1% per annum over three years (an approximately 6% drop in real wages) … is/are either really stupid or a massive Labour supporter. The Minister should have seen the very predicatable effects and stepped in immediately. National is reading the room on this like a dyslexic trying to get through War and Peace in a week.
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Radio NZ reports:
A union for primary principals has been able to secure a pay rise, because – according to them – it has not threatened strike action.
The Primary Principals Collective Bargaining Union has accepted a 2.5 percent pay rise this year, followed by a 2.1 percent rise next year, after four months of negotiation with the Ministry of Education.
Offered by Public Service Commissioner Sir Brian Roche last week, the deal was set for the next 26 months.
Of their 515 members, 85 percent voted on the proposal, 95 percent of them voting in favour.
President Mark Ellis said the union never reached a point where it felt a strike was necessary.
“Our membership has gone and accepted it as a good offer,” he said. “We can appreciate that, right now, we’re in a crisis for living costs and living wages, and things like that.
“In particular, our principals want to do their jobs, be in front of kids, be supporting teachers.
“I think the good-faith negotiations continued because we had not threatened strike action.
“I believe firmly that we were at the table in constructive conversation, we had clarity of communication and, in particular, we had prioritised our priorities very carefully.”
Great to see a deal done, and with both parties saying the other operated in good faith.
The difference here is PPCBU is a union with a sole focus – negotiating a good salary deal, and supporting principals. The NZEI is a political lobby group that listed Palestine as the first item on its agenda for a meeting with the Education Minister.
PPCBU only costs $300 a year for principals to join, while NZEI charges almost $800.
Radio NZ reports:
The coronial inquest into the Whakaari/White Island disaster has begun to look into how emergency services responded to the 2019 eruption and whether decisions impacted the chances of survival for those on the island.
The Whakaari/ White Island tragedy killed 22 people and seriously injured 25 others on 9 December, 2019.
The counsel assisting the bereaved families and the survivors of the tragedy, Anna Adams, said questions remained over why help didn’t arrive sooner.
She had previously told the inquest that 39 people were rescued from the island on the day of the eruption, entirely by civilian boats and helicopters.
I am glad this will be a focus of the inquiry. Basically if civilians hadn’t gone in, there would very possible be an additional 25 dead people. I can’t recall many disasters where emergency services rescued no one, but civilians rescued 39 people.
First responders are heroes. Their job requires them to go into dangerous situations. Firefighters go into burning buildings. Police have to confront armed offenders. Like most NZers, I am in awe of first responders.
A few months ago there was a school shooting in the US, and an armed police officer didn’t enter the building, leaving the kids at the mercy of the shooter. There was huge criticism of that.
There is no expectation that first responders should go into a situation where death is certain or even probable. But the job is to take a higher degree of risk in order to protect or save people. The cop who got shot by Tom Phillips is an example of that.
I suspect there were many first responders who would have happily helped rescue people from White Island, and that it was at the command level that the decision was made not to go in. A decision that would have probably led to 25 more dead people if it were not for the civilians who went in and rescued them.
It has been interesting to read the various reasons put forward as to why Tory Whanau failed to get elected to the Maori Ward.
I can’t recall the equivalent of a incumbent Mayor who has been elected with a huge majority, standing for a ward seat and failing to win that seat.
Some say Whanau has been the victim of racism, but as this was an election in a Maori ward, where the only voters are Maori, and all the candidates are Maori, this can’t be the case.
Some say it could be sexism. I guess you can argue that Maori in Wellington are sexist, but personally I see no proof of that. And after all Whanau got elected by a massive majority to the Mayoralty in 2022, by all Wellingtonians.
In fact four of the last seven Mayors have been women, and have resgned for 21 of the last 33 years. So I don;’t think Wellington is a sexist city, let alone Maori Wellingtonians.
The Spinoff says it is because the local Iwi endorsed Matthew Reweti. Now Reweti stood in 2022 and lost to a low profile Green Party candidate, so for him to now win against a high profile Green Party Mayor is a huge turnabout. I guess it could be the Iwi endorsement but he doesn’t mention it on his candidate statement. AFAIK the Iwi just out out a statement once, and didn’t campaign for him in any way. There was one local story about it in The Post.
We can’t know for sure, how influential this was, but if you are to claim it is the reason Whanau lost, then what is the proof behind that assertion?
Also of relevance is of the 20,000 Maori in Wellington City, only 1,000 are affiliated to Te Āti Awa. They are only 5% of Maori, and she lost by a 17% margin. There are 3000 Ngati Porou, 2,600 Ngapuhi and 2,400 Ngai Tahu.
There is of course another possible explanation. Which is simply that Maori in Wellington didn’t think Whanau had performed well as Mayor, and didn’t want her on Council.
A poll Curia did in January 2025 found that of residents in the Maori ward only 32% thought Whanau had done a good job as Mayor. Now to be fair that is higher than any other ward (11% in Eastern) but still not great.
It also found only 16% of Labour voters and 34% of Green voters thought she was doing a good job.
So I wonder if it is just possible that her performance in office is why she failed to get elected to the Maori ward, rather than racism, sexism or Iwi endorsement?
Radio NZ reports:
Leading credit agency S&P Global Ratings has reaffirmed New Zealand’s AA+ rating with a stable outlook, but noted budget deficits and debt need to be tackled.
They do. And there is some progress.
But conversely progress in tackling the state of government finances might lead to an upgrade.
“Indications of this would include the general government deficit contracting to less than 3 percent of GDP, and net general government debt or interest expenses falling on a structural basis to less than 30 percent of GDP and 5 percent of government revenues, respectively.”
So if we can cut the deficit, we may even get a credit ratings upgrade. This would mean paying less interest on the debt, freeing up money for health and education.
Radio NZ reports:
He said the then-government’s various big-spending policies, such as the wage subsidy and other pandemic support policies, also worked against the RBNZ’s approach and contributed to the inflation spike.
“Containing inflation over this period required the OCR to be higher than otherwise, if fiscal support during the pandemic had been more timely and temporary.”
This should be bigger news. The Reserve Bank Chief Economist explicitly says the spending of the last government contributed to the inflation spike. He correctly says that the problem wasn’t fiscal support but the fact it wasn’t temporary.
The Post reports:
It promised a better experience for pedestrians, attractive spaces for all, faster bus times, a quality safe cycling route into the city and ultimately a bigger spend by tourists on accommodation, food, and other activities.
But business owners along Wellington’s Thorndon Quay, where tens of millions of dollars of “improvements” have just been completed, say the project has all but destroyed them.
“It’s ghost town stuff,” said Steve Piper, owner of Co Kids childcare, “it’s dying”.
Piper said he had been forced to lease five secured car parks from the neighbouring hotel to ensure parents using the facility had somewhere to safely park, following a “near death miss accident” when a bus wiped out a car door as a pregnant mother with two children was about to exit her vehicle, and “endless complaints” from parents about abusive and fast cyclists.
A newly opened bus lane had reduced car park numbers even further, with 60 unable to be used between 6.30am and 9.30am.
They destroyed most of the car parks there, and surprise no one goes there anymore.
They now want to do the same thing to Lambton Quay!