More on false rape allegations
August 17th, 2005 at 7:49 am by David FarrarThe high profile rape allegation against an unnamed taxi driver has been found to be invented, as the complainant it seems did not even take a taxi. She has been charged with making a false complaint.
The sotyr mentions there are 450 people charged annually with making false complaints (of all sorts). The actual number of false complaints is probably a magnitude higher – it is disappointing the Police do not keep detailed statistics.
While far from official, a taxi company said nine out of ten complaints against taxi drivers are false. A lively thread last week debated a police claim that 60% to 80% are false.
It really is frustrating that there are no statistics kept along the lines of:
* No of total complaints made
* No of complaints where a person is charged and found guility
* No of complaints made where a person is charged and found not guilty
* No of complaints made where no charges laid
* No of complaints where Police are satisifed no crime occurred
Everyone is a loser when all we have is guesswork.
Related posts:
- False rape complaints
- Alleged rape victim charged with making a false complaint
- False Allegations
- A fake rape register
August 17th, 2005 at 8:41 am
It is not surprising when you consider the following.
-2002 68,000 calls to Police were abandoned
Vote:-2004 180,000 calls to Police were abandoned
-2004 61,000 reported calls were assigned to non-existent “Ghost” units
August 17th, 2005 at 9:15 am
If that is the alleged taxi incedent I am thinking of, then I thought it sounded fake when I read the report. Just that lots of parts of it made no sense. If I can pick that up from a few lines in a news article, it must be even more so for frontline police you are involved with this stuff. It must make it difficult sorting the wheat from the chaff.
Vote:August 17th, 2005 at 9:57 am
Maybe the police are too embarassed by the amount of hours it takes to figure out that a complaint is false to keep accurate statistics.
Vote:What a waste of tax payers money.
Sadly it seems if you are a male in New Zealand you should keep track of every movement you make.
A story is all it takes to get charged with rape and in a lot of cases very little evidence.
At lease this horrible crime is finally getting some much needed publicity.
August 17th, 2005 at 2:09 pm
If found guilty false complaintants should serve the same sentence that the victim of the complaint would have got Forget the excuses and the other feminazi crap Rapists have no real defence and neither do false complaintants
Vote:August 17th, 2005 at 3:11 pm
Just today the police say a bride rang 111 because of a stain on her wedding dress !
I can understand an old lady who panicks and strange noises at night dont turn out to be a burglar.
What is it with NZ women that they think that making up false complaints ( about rape) or absurd calls about wedding dress stains to the police will solve all their problems.
We have had a woman just last week sent to jail because of the false sexual abuse claims against a (woman ) police officer, but that seems to be an extreme case since she still denied making it up.
Vote:I think there is certain sort of sociopath which are almost entirely woman, who make up claims ( child abuse when they are young) or when a marriage breaks down thier partner is abusing the children, and if they get to the stage of no kids around , no partner ( no wonder) and the police become the center of their distorted view of the world.
August 17th, 2005 at 4:08 pm
David what you haven’t stated or didn’t hear was D/S/Sgt Cotter’s comment repeated several times on the radio news that such complaints were uncommon and very rare. I assume he stated this in response to the Taxi Proprietor’s rediculous statement. Cotters statement confirms my assessment of the situation when I left the Police 15 years ago. Since then of course advances in illegal drug technology, free Acc Money, and the emasculation of Police authority in dealing with young people may well have led to an increase in cases..If statistics were kept the same as in my day there should be an accurate indication in that the offence reported’Rape’ would have been cleared ‘No Offence Disclosed’ and this should show up in the quarterly statistics.
Vote:August 17th, 2005 at 5:47 pm
Baxter,
Vote:Do you think we are seeing an increase in false rape charges gettting more than the deserved time for police investigations based on the increase of females in the force?. After all females have a more emotive view on issues such as rape.
In my experience, and the experience of another wife I have talked to, we both had very agressive female officers who pursued investigations based on very dubious statements.
In the other families case it turned out that the police woman herself had been abused as a child and had treated this family and their children very badly. Needless to say this case got dropped at depositions.
Another problem seems to be quite obvious. Why do the police not even want the alleged offenders alibis anymore?. They seem to be looking for evidence to convict, and this seems to be a dangerous mind set.
A lot of the fair and just police officers I know have become so frustrated with the adverse judicial system in New Zealand that they have decided to leave earlier than anticipated. It is very hard to be expected to bring cases for prosecution based on statements not evidence.
August 18th, 2005 at 12:18 am
It’s about time that the Rape Crisis mob started to take seriously the very real problem of false allegations, instead of continually trying to minimise the problem, or deny that the problem is even significant.
Vote:August 18th, 2005 at 5:07 pm
Rejected…As I recall it False Complaints of rape were rare. Usually a complainant would arrive in such a state that there was little doubt that she had been raped, most commonly by a gang member these cases would always be followed through.From time to time a complaint would be made some days after the act and after discussion with the Police would be withdrawn, when the examination process and the court procedure together with the likely outcome was explained, but this didn’t mean the complainant was disbelieved.It is quite likely as you say that gender balancing in recent years is leading to false complaints being more readily accepted, but if there are more such complaints I think the other causal factors I mentioned more likely.It would certainly be sloppy Police work if alibi’s were not checked though the Police need not accept the varacity of an alibi even if they couldn’t rebut it.
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