Connell for NZ First?

December 12th, 2007 at 9:30 am by David Farrar

Stuff has an NZPA story which speculates Rakaia MP Brian Connell may stand for NZ First at the next election.

Certainly Winston Peters was going on and on about David Carter’s selection as the Selwyn candidate a lot yesterday. But Peters hates Carter so it wasn’t that surprising.

Considering how strongly Peters has campaigned against people defecting parties, and in fact got a special law passed to allows such MPs to be expelled, the amount of hypocrisy involved if Connell does defect to Peters will be considerable.

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28 Responses to “Connell for NZ First?”

  1. Insolent Prick (417 comments) says:

    It really is very hard to see what benefit it might be for Winston, or Connell. Would love to see it happen, though. They deserve each other.

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  2. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    IP – i’m not much of a political tactician.. but surely having a sitting mp waka jump to NZF would decrease the chance of that party vanishing from our parliament in ’08 .. ?

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  3. cubit9f (356 comments) says:

    They could do a party deal with Winston’s hair stylist

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  4. ghostwhowalks (389 comments) says:

    No more hypocrisy than any member like Tau henare who now is part of national.
    Whats wrong with him ‘standing’ for NZ First. he hasnt jumped from national inspite of them treating him so badly for pointing out Don Brashs hypocrisy

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  5. BeShakey (405 comments) says:

    I wonder whether it would make it easier or harder for National to work with NZF post-election?

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  6. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    GWW – the problem with him standing for NZ First is that NZ First doesn’t stand for anything

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  7. Johnboy (14,857 comments) says:

    Hypocrisy is Winstons middle name now witness his about face on the baubles of office.

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  8. Graeme Edgeler (3,262 comments) says:

    “the amount of hypocrisy involved if Connell does defect to Peters will be considerable.”

    Only if he defects before the election.

    If he stays with National, and leaves his vote with National until the next election, and then stands for someone else, I cannot see an issue.

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  9. James W (277 comments) says:

    What are the odds that Angus McKay now stands for Act and makes it an interesting three-way?

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  10. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    Johnboy – i thought Single-Malt was his middle name :)

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  11. david (2,531 comments) says:

    It would explain how the Poodle threatened to table internal Nat Party documents relating to the candidate selection process.

    If Connell has handed over memos etc then it reflects pretty badly on both IMHO and would make Connell a Pariah in the electorate (if he isn’t already.)

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  12. Ross Miller (1,659 comments) says:

    So would this be the first time where a rat has actually tried to board a sinking ship?

    Perhaps though the real answer is the fact that for defeated MPs (as opposed to retiring MPs) their pay continues for another three months after the election.

    So by standing for Winston First Connell picks up an additional $26,700. Compares well with the 30 pieces of silver that Judas got.

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  13. GerryandthePM (328 comments) says:

    Which Party in Government introduced the three months salary payout to defeated MPs?

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  14. Graeme Edgeler (3,262 comments) says:

    Gerry – I’m not entirely sure. It’s in the Civil List Act 1979 (and that bit has not been amended since), which would make it Muldoon/National, but I would be very surprised if this was a bit that wasn’t in the previous incarnations of the Civil List Act (which I cannot access from the Computer I’m currently at).

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  15. Grant McKenna (1,156 comments) says:

    I agree with Graeme Edgeler that only effecting the defection at the election, would not be an issue. I’m intrigued by the three month retrenchment though; it makes sense as a motive.

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  16. GerryandthePM (328 comments) says:

    Was it the same Party in Government which restored the vote to people previously disenfranchised whilst in prison?

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  17. kehua (225 comments) says:

    Word is around Methven is that Connell doesn`t even have the support of his own jocks.

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  18. 3-coil (1,200 comments) says:

    Perfect match – they deserve each other.

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  19. James W (277 comments) says:

    Methven is in the southern half of Rakaia. By his own admission, he isn’t popular in Mid Canterbury. He is better supported in the northern part (which now makes up Selwyn electorate).

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  20. catwoman (123 comments) says:

    Connell and the majority of NZ First MPs are a match made in heaven. Their total contribution to Parliament over the past 3 years = 0.

    They can be summed up with one word “Who?”

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  21. Hoolian (220 comments) says:

    Wow, I’ve never heard of a rat jumping on to a sinking ship before…

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  22. djg (72 comments) says:

    “we wont give a damn because National party people dont vote for us”

    Doug Woolerton obviously hasny got the memo yet.

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  23. ghostwhowalks (389 comments) says:

    Every day National happily casts a proxy vote for Brian Connell AND United Future ship jumper Gordon Copeland.

    It like the ACT hypocrisy over being the only ones to use the laws about defecting Mps, in spite of totally opposing it.

    I can see the same happening over the EFB.

    [DPF: And Labour casts a proxy for Taito Philip Field whom they expelled. So what]

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  24. Craig Ranapia (1,912 comments) says:

    Every day National happily casts a proxy vote for Brian Connell AND United Future ship jumper Gordon Copeland. It like the ACT hypocrisy over being the only ones to use the laws about defecting Mps, in spite of totally opposing it.

    Invoking so-called ‘waka jumping’ legislation is just another pathetic weapon of mass distraction, and once more its not going to work.

    My understanding is that the ability to cast proxies was part of a total overhaul of standing orders – done on a completely non-partisan basis – before MMP was brought in.

    I stand open to correction by someone who actually knows WTF they’re talking about – that means not you, Ghostie.

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  25. James W (277 comments) says:

    Labour also casts Copeland’s proxy.

    Who gives a sh*t GWW?

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  26. Graeme Edgeler (3,262 comments) says:

    James W – Labour only casts Copeland’s proxy on confidence and supply. National casts it on everything else.

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  27. Richard (130 comments) says:

    “IP – i’m not much of a political tactician.. but surely having a sitting mp waka jump to NZF would decrease the chance of that party vanishing from our parliament in ‘08 .. ?”

    KK – How on earth could Connell help NZF? He’s not popular with any particular electorate – so no electorate seat, he’s not popular with the wider public – so no list votes.
    If he waka jumped now, given past performance, what positive would he add to NZF’s profile?

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  28. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    Gravy-sucking piglets, and now the runt of the litter has at last found a space at the very end of the trough where he can push in unnoticed, and get his little snout once more, at the gravy…
    He will be in ideal company.

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