Expiring Demerits
Generally I have been pretty happy with how the demerits scheme has worked. Ultimately everyone comments here at my pleasure, but the scheme has given some transparency around what sort of comments I regard as unacceptable. It also generally seems to work in providing an incentive for people to be less trollish once they have some demerits.
Not that I wish it to be an expect replica of the traffic demerits scheme, but I do wonder whether I should allow demerits to disappear after a period of time, so that someone doesn’t end up suspended one day for say five comments spread over four years which attracted demerits.
There seem to me to be two ways I could let demerits expire. They are:
- x months after a demerit was given, it expires
- y months after the last demerit was given, all current demerits expire
My thinking is along the lines of x=12 if I implement (1) and probably y=6 if I implement (2). Feedback on these are welcome. I note most people who end up suspended do so for comments over one to two months.
Another issue is whether I should should ever reset people’s suspension histories, say after an election. So if someone had been suspended for two months prior to an election, and then after the election they were suspended again, it would be back to just one week instead of four months. In theory as I plan to keep this blog going for many years, some people could end up with year long bans etc. On the other hand I don’t see much merit in helping recidivist offenders 
March 24th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Demerits expiring after time seems so…. passive.
What about “reward points” for commentators with demerits that recognise valueable contributions to the discussion? It doesn’t have to be comments that you (or the moderators) necessarily agree with, just ones that are thoughtful, well researched, reasoned, etc.
March 24th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
I like loftus’ idea about positive demerits (pemerits? sounds kind of rude. Maybe just merits?). But really, I think the karma thing covers that.
I would suggest (again) a tidy up of the wording in the demerit policy – it describes how you get them but not the threshold at which consequences occur, nor the compounding nature of those consequences. I put some suggested words on the first or second comment thread on the new blog layout….
I reckon not having a policy on expiry. The rules for getting them are clear, the rules for wiping them should be ‘at DPF’s whim.’ Maybe an amnesty after an election, maybe an amnesty for good behaviour for a decent period of time. And then again, maybe not. Keeps the buggers on their toes that way.
March 24th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
PaulL:
I agree that the status quo should remain – I think the overall quality of comments has improved and, thankfully, there’s much less threadjacking activity than before (imagine the recent abortion thread without a demerits policy).
DPF:
Do you have comment moderators in place (formerly Ray et al); if so, how many?
[DPF: There was a security issue a wee while back which required me to remove editor access from everyone but me. I have not had time to reinstate them.
My current thinking is that I should probably be the decision maker on demerits, but that a team who can spot potentially offending comments and give feedback on them, plus do emergency moderation for the ultra offensive stuff (as I am often offline for half a day at a time) is the way to go. I need to chat to the current team and see what they think]
March 24th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Why set an arbitrary date like an election? As our benign overlord on this blog, you should celebrate your birthday by granting demerited prisoners their freedoms, plus also other important dates like John Key’s birthday, and similar!
Just kidding. I don’t see the point in having the election date setting things fresh again – trash talkers will talk trash just as much after the election as before.
As for letting demerits expire, it might encourage civil behaviour if you didn’t actually let them expire at all.
March 24th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
” On the other hand I don’t see much merit in helping recidivist offenders”
Yes that does seem to be a kiwi tradition.
However, a quick check of the demerit scoreboard will reveal that I am a notorious recidivist-opening batsman who has chalked up many 100’s against some hostile bowling.
Got a deal for you DFP. If I don’t score ANY demerit runs in two months from today you wipe my record so I got a clean slate?
Cut a meatworker for twenty years a bit of slack eh ?
Edit – a negative thumbs down already. I guess that explains it here.
March 24th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
I think DPF has been extremely tolerant in his use of demerit points and may even, in trying to be seen to be fair, have been harsher on ‘right wingers’ than ‘left wingers’.
I would favour individual demerits expiring after 12 months.
[DPF: I try not to be, but suspect you may be right. Certainly many many people from the right have had demerits or suspensions.]
March 24th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Demerits? I have none I hope.
But yes they should expire after time.
I mean were would we be without Dad and Knome and Tane.
All shitheads, but sometimes they do put up constructive stuff.
That’s why I read kiwiblog
[DPF: Tane has never actually had any demerits]
March 24th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
DPF:
I don’t think it’s that big a deal if (hypothetically) a person sits on 90 demerits for several months, and then collects 10 demerits and cops a one-week ban for a first-time offence. A one-week ban really isn’t draconian. Phillip John/Roger Nome copped a one-week ban recently. He squealed like a stuck pig at the time (even though, in my view, he deserved his demerits for blatant trolling). But he’s back, and life goes on.
A more practical issue, and I suspect this is what you may have in mind, is that your demerit roll of (dis)honour may become increasingly unmanageable over an extended period of time.
March 24th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Spoken like a lawyer POC .
March 24th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
D4J:
I can see both sides of the argument. I’m actually talking about first-time offenders, not about your circumstances. I take it you’d like to see Stan/RebelHeart back on the same terms as those proposed in your 7.21 comment?
March 24th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
I understand POC and I didn’t mean my comment to come across as snarly. Stan/Rebel Heart has declared a jihad against me over Easter whatever that means ?
March 24th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
I gave you a thumbs up D4J
Come of DPF, make a good behaviour deal with D4J
make it a progressive one. I.e. one week for ten points off and progress to if he gets no demerits before the election you wipe him clean.
March 24th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Each contributer should have a log of their demerits next to their name. The demerits accumulated should scale in intensity/longevity ie one week first offence, scrub the board, then two weeks second offence scrub then 1 month third offence, scrub 3 months fourth offence, 6, 9, 12, scrub etc by then even the most hardened offender should get bored and wander away. Also, pointless fire-wars should incur demerits. bloggers with an ‘ro’ ‘ph’ or ‘ta’ in their name should have to ask ’special permission’ to contribute (two thumbs up will provide access) and finally those who more than three suspect of being a sock-puppet must submit an essay entitled Why it is ridiculous to think I am a sock-puppet’.
Eye Thenkyu
ps the last bits were flippant.
March 24th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Sounds damned complicated, expiring all those individual demerits.
March 24th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Mr Farrar ONLY wants educated posters of the same elk(ilk surely, DPF is not a deer) as himself from both sides of the ledger on his blogg i feel, a blunt crude manual worker saying a dog is a dog with the odd spelling mistake ,is going to attract more demerites quicker than a educated policy advisor, from Victoria university , with wit and rapour, but no other useful redemming points
March 24th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
DPF, Have a clean out of selected demerit histories at Christmas. Only those that have shown a reasonable mix of good with bad behavior during their accumulation should be spared.
This will keep your work load down(for this nuisance), and allow discretion as to the inherent worth of some offenders.
It is generally understood that you are very even handed and it’s your blog after all.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
D4J you’re just a bad bad man, you know this don’t you? Many people don’t like it as it is and you very much put it as it is. I believe even DPF probably agrees with most things that you say just quietly, but doesn’t want it said as you do. Hence the reason I like the Whale, say it as it is, he’ll bag the fuck out of you if needed, but let you be.
My suggestion as far as demerits is simple, keep it as it is…… behave for 3,4,5,6 or 7 months (pick one) and you lose them, back to zero, maybe 2, 3,4,5 years, only you can decide owner of the site.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Yes you do have a point Michaels, however I do not view myself as a “bad bad man.” It may seem paradoxical to be compassionate but forceful, blunt but gentle and my writing is often disjointed and ungrammatical. Crime of the century, methinks not and I know I put DPF in some awkward situations, however I have a steadfast faith that circumstances can change dramatically for the better.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
I would say if a blogger hasn’t earned any demerits over 6 months then they should be given a clean slate. If they have then they keep their new demerits as well as their old ones. If a blogger gets suspended, it should be for one week as usual and then every time they re-offend their suspension time doubles each time until they are hardly going to bother coming back (as Lee C said)
March 24th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
This is all very well, but mostly bollocks.
Al this gotta-register-with-every blogger-where-I want-to-respond crap … bleaaaaaaaaugh!
David, don’t you sometimes find yourself wishing for a return to the free-wheelin’ spam-free days of mid 90s usenet?
Oh to enjoy again the whale-murdering splurts of Debbido, the conservative rants of Redbaiter in his prime, the libertarian bile-spits of John Bilderbeck, the thoughtful contributions of Brian Harmer, and the poetic brain dumps of wassisname the drummer fella who wanted to be a helecopter pilot. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, them were the days!
Did you know I was born is a shoe box in t’ midle of t’ motorway?
[DPF: I miss Babymash
]
March 24th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
You are getting carried away. Wouldn’t it be easier just not to post comments you don’t like? If someone is constantly offensive why bother with them at all?
March 24th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
D4J, Pleased you got my drift.
HARP ON, find that shoe box , place it back on the motorway, sit in it and WAIT THERE!!!
March 24th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Expire the demerits Davey! I want to see D4J stay and continue to make an arse out of himself!
March 24th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
I like the expire after x months with no demerits rather than automatically dropping off.
Mixed about the resetting of penalties but has to be some point where “good behaviour” is rewarded. Perhaps, dare I say it, you have to use discretion. A court, for example, takes into account criminal history in sentencing but where there has been a significant gap in offending may treat an offence as pretty much a first offence even although, years previously, that person has been guilty of something similar.
In terms of d4j I have some sympathy. He drives me mad at times (sorry Dad) and he does go off half-cocked too often (although there has been some d4j baiting which is unpleasant) but he seems a decent enough chap in his own way and I would have little problem with him being reset after a period of time. Quite how that fits into a transparent system you can work out!!
March 24th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
Nah, I reckon the doubling is a real strong mind focuser. The first couple of times some just took it in their stride, but as the consequence got bigger and bigger, they suddenly had to start caring. Maybe reset the demerits, but not the doubling – once you’ve reset the demerits it surely can’t be all that hard to stay under 100 – and if they get to 100 again then they deserve the 1 month or whatever they are up to.
March 24th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
option 1, after 12 months, so each activity incurring a demerit lasts its full length.
if they tend to be incurred in clusters they’ll all expire at about the same time anyway which approximates option 2.
March 25th, 2008 at 12:29 am
D4J baiting? Mate it’s like a hobby!
March 25th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Please let the suspensions stack up. If people are dumb enough to get banned more than once, they shouldn’t be welcome here.
March 25th, 2008 at 5:51 am
The rules are not really that complicated. If adults are unable to follow them and cop some demerits – too bad. I personally would not expire them. Keep the comments clean.
March 25th, 2008 at 6:32 am
I find a highly bureaucratic system like you are proposing depressing. Go and join the Labour Party they love this sort of thing.
March 25th, 2008 at 7:32 am
Nice comment pascal – cheerful types make New Zealand such a stimulating place to live and I do wonder if a 100,000 kiwi’s will participate in the mass exodus across the ditch this year? Who can blame them. Oh well a two month holiday dawns.
March 25th, 2008 at 8:22 am
wouldn’t have a fucken clue how ‘it works’..
(and have no interest in learning/reading..)
wouldn’t have a fucken clue how many i ‘have’..
and don’t really give a fuck..
(tho’ yr heart has to go out to the wannabe-censors..eh..?
having their powers curtailed..for ’security reasons’..must have been a bitter blow to them..
poor luvvies..!..their empty lives even emptier..their ‘reason for being’ negated..
have you offered them counselling..?..dpf..?
(we can hear your ‘guilt’ at how it’s all turned out..in yr words..too..btw..)
(but i did chuckle/take cheer at d4j’s comment/wish/exhortation….
“..however I have a steadfast faith that circumstances can change dramatically for the better..”..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
March 25th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Good chuckle dope freak and I was referring to my employment chances so I didn’t have to sit on my arse all day and fire bullets of venom at creeps like yourself.
Edit -drug addict – are you intending on returning to the work force?
March 25th, 2008 at 8:59 am
i was taking a deeper/wider philosophical view..
(oh..!..sorry..!..i didn’t realise who i was talking to..!)
wanna kill/cut up more animals..?..eh..?
luv ya work..?..doya..?
btw..how did you wash the stench of death off you..?
and..
did the screams/fear/panic of the sentient beings you were butchering..ever cause you to ‘pause for thought’..?
oh..!..sorry..!..i forgot (again!)..who i was talking to..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
March 25th, 2008 at 9:04 am
What a wacko with a stupid attitude. Please answer the question phool, are you thinking of returning to the work force?
March 25th, 2008 at 11:21 am
d4j: cheerful types make New Zealand such a stimulating place to live
Sure, they do. But at some stage an adult needs to front up and accept responsibility for their actions. DPF cannot keep on adding to his workload and having to monitor those who do not learn. Can those individuals reform and become a useful member of the community? Quite possibly. I just have no interest in holding their hands to do so when the majority of commentators are well and truely capable of remaining within the boundaries our host have set. And I don’t see why DPF needs to hold their hands either.
March 25th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
answer the question d4j..
why do you enjoy killing/hurting sentient beings..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
March 25th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
phoool my old trade is not your concern, however I am thankful for work in the primary industry as my IRD tax paid helped progress your drug habit. I am branching out into another domain now.
Will you be employed this year Mr Whoar?
March 25th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
the brighter they are , the nastier, more nit picking they are. D4J for pm,
March 25th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
like with me farrar look i dont know yet if i expired or i can say what i like so what do yous think
March 25th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Shit philu give it a fucking rest, whats with this “why do you enjoy killing/ hurting sentient beings” bullshit. I didn’t think melons counted as been sentient beings, is D4J getting into market gardening?
March 25th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Hi side show bob, I have always been a market gardener and have produced good crops with the use of blood and bone from the local meatworks. If I ever grew a melon like phool I’d chuck it in the offal pit down the back of the farm.
March 25th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Given Peter Burns does not have a job and doesn’t seem to be off kiwiblog long enough for me to believe he is actively seeking work – I believe you illuminatedtiger in your notion that baiting is a hobby for Mr. Peter Burns
March 25th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
No it’s a full blown career for the burns unit!
March 25th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
DPF:
Is it safe to assume “Mardypants” would cop “100 points – For highly defamatory comments” – and a lifelong ban too – if he had the guts to address you directly?
Exhibit A:
And Exhibit B (on the same thread):
Stalkerblog(™): sinking to new depths of gutteral bloggage.
The political blogosphere is heating up, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a defamation case before long.
[DPF: Heh, I should start referring to MardyPants as my personal KiwiSaver retirement fund. Never known someone to be wrong with every single assertion. Yes I am a mouthpiece for Family First - my posts supporting abortion, euthanasia, prostitution law reform, civil unions, sex education in schools, gay adoption, Californication, South Park, drinking age of 18, non-banning of party pills, removing Jesus from the parliamentary prayer and no restrictions on Easter trading are all core Family First policies!!!]
March 26th, 2008 at 12:00 am
Who is mardypants, and should we care?
March 26th, 2008 at 12:00 am
There is talk about it but I think it will always remain just that, talk. The costs of mounting a defamation suit are immense and since many political bloggers are politically connected it could actually be damaging to their own cause.
March 26th, 2008 at 12:34 am
PaulL:
I’ve no idea who Mardypants is – only that he’s an author at Kiwiblogblog.
IlluminatedTiger:
You know, I honestly can’t remember the last defamation case that went to court – anyone? – but I believe the internet is fertile ground. It won’t take much for anonymous posters (that is, people who think they’re anonymous) to cross the line, either by making threats of violence against others, or by defaming others. That happens reasonably often already. Obviously, as we’ve come to expect a certain degree of biffo on the blogosphere (it’s political debate after all), it’d have to be a particularly serious case for anyone to bother taking things further. New Zealand’s a pretty small place, so I reckon it’ll happen at some stage.
March 26th, 2008 at 6:35 am
Mardypants is Mr Sleep’s soiled underpants. Don’t go anywhere near these creeps as they’re riddled with contagious diseases of every description. One is that badly affected he thinks he is a glowing tiger. No wonder doctors warn people to stay away from such open sewers like kiwiblogblog and the sub standard retard village.
Talking of defamation didn’t I try to beat Mr Creep Sleep up and Tugger Tane said I tried to murder a National Party MP ?? Fucked up liars give me the screaming shits!!!
March 26th, 2008 at 7:27 am
gee..!..three exclaimation marks ..!..at 6.35 am..
(boil-over by 10..?)
(shall we run a sweep..?..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
March 26th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Well D4J where do you plan on getting the money from?
December 23rd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Anybody want to have this discussion again?
December 23rd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
I don’t agree with much dad4justice says, but I admire his dedication to his cause – I suspect campaigning and putting heart and soul into a gruelling, shitty cause is something a lot of his detractors here are not very familiar with.
Philu likewise has his own views which he has formed through some pretty major experiences that most of his detractors don’t seem to know (or want to know) anything about, being little more than softcock little parrots of a fairly safe, comfy party line, and – apparently – finding contentment in that.
Me? I can’t claim to have dealt with anything like what those men have. I earned all 95 of my demerits through blatantly jeering and otherwise detracting from unthinking fuck-the-poor, fuck-the-homosexuals, fuck-the-Maoris, fuck-the-baby-seals, all-rights-flow-from-money, right wing zealotry wherever I see it. Come what may. Come demerits from DPF, come bitching from Murray, Redbaiter, Big Bruv and any the other angry little lemmings who worship where directed.
In between the solid points far too much smack is talked on this forum, and someone has to jeer it down so that no-one mistakes it for common sense or reality.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
“fuck-the-baby-seals”
Hey!…nobody is more with you on this than me.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Are you thinking demerits are too tough or not tough enough bb? Or do you want to discuss expiry of demerits?
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
I can’t understand what he’s saying half the time. It’s like reading Trainspotting.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
” and someone has to jeer it down ”
You’ve never done that. You’re just a ranting simple minded commie fuckwit who is wrong 99.9% pf the time and thinks he’s far more important that what he really is.
Just take your boring shit to the Standard and give Kiwiblog readers a break from your predictable crap. And take Pete George with you, another pain in the arse whining commie who adds nothing to the debate other than same old same old left wing tripe.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
FWIW I think some people get away with quite a lot here which detracts from reasonable functioning of the blog, and it obviously drives some people away (intentionally). I’m also aware that some would like to see me disappear from here so they may think the same about me.
I think there is some quite obnoxious noxious posts here, repeat crap, and blatant misrepresentation I guess designed to deliberately annoy. I think it would be a better place without it but draconian is a worse approach.
Demerits are one tool to try and keep things functioning reasonably and inclusive. Self policing amongst posters is another thing that should work but sometimes crap is encouraged rather than frowned on, it seems like some come here for blood sport rather than debate.
Similar to RRM I think someone should stand up and call crap so it isn’t seen and accepted as ok. It means getting hammered sometimes but so be it.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
“FWIW I think”
Its worth nothing. Fuck off.
[DPF: and that is 20 demerits. You've made heaps of great posts, but just telling people to fuck off degenerates a thread into a flamewar]
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
And on cue the previous poster who seems to think he owns the blog with no respect for that fact that it is someone else’s blog he keeps shitting in, and repeats tripe more than anyone.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Pete
“Are you thinking demerits are too tough or not tough enough bb? Or do you want to discuss expiry of demerits?”
More the expiry really, earlier in the thread somebody said that they thought it would be a good idea if demerits dropped off after a year, I tend to agree with that.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
What’s your opinion worth, Redbaiter?
Back on the old medication I see.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
And now look what you have started bb
Someone doesn’t agree with free speech.
I think dropping off demerits after 12 months sounds fair enough. The frequent repeat offences are the biggest problem.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Yes but it’s mostly amusing tripe Pete. Perhaps if some lefties were as amusing as RB they might get similar traction to what RB does.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Fuck off to the Standard Mr. George. You offer nothing fresh and helpful to any debate here.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Reid, it might be amusing to you (and sometimes I laugh at the blind contradictions), but it is often blatant nasty abuse aimed at shouting people down and shoving them off “his” patch. You mightn’t feel that as much because your views are perhaps a bit closer to his.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
” who seems to think he owns the blog ”
With almost three thousand posts in a few months I think you’re very mistaken as to who labours under that particular misapprehension.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Fuck off to your own blog Masturbaiter. There you can tell people to fuck off to your heart’s content. Here your words don’t mean shit and your authoritah is zero.
Oh wait, if you had your own blog the intellectual vacuum would become far too apparent, as the only comments would be the REAL (free thinking) right-wing demanding “Please stop copying and pasting our material Mr Baiter.” Much better to troll on a slightly more real-world forum eh?
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
You left wingers just do not bring anything to the debate. You merely regurgitate and regurgitate and regurgitate old shit that we’ve all heard and read a hundred times before. You’re tired and empty of real and novel ideas.
Again, you bring nothing to the debate that is fresh new or helpful. You’re just clutter.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Talking of regurgitation, was this your baby, Redbaiter:
http://www.truebluenz.orconhosting.net.nz/index.html
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Note demerits have started to be given out. Any further telling people to fuck off will see them increase in frequency]
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Pete my views often differ from RB’s and we have several epic points of difference on which we occasionally engage.
Sometimes I’ve been quite the target for quite a few here not just RB particularly when Israel comes up but I don’t care and never have. I’ve always been puzzled as to why people do – it’s just words and opinions and on a blog, you can’t be shouted down or shoved off the patch.
I don’t understand why many left blogs don’t like it because it doesn’t affect one’s actual ability to make points in any way.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
And your contributions are so refreshing, diverse and enlightening by comparison Masturbaiter?
“Liberals are all idiots”
“Progressives are all idiots”
“Socialists are ruining the country”
“the left this, the left that…”
You blame the invisible hand of socialism and state interference for all the ills of the world. You’re the most socialist commentator here.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Pete George- Fuck off.
That should earn me another 20 demerits and a two week suspension. Right?
Might as well get it over with.
(BTW, its well worth it. This slimy two faced dirtbag is just an insipid deceiver who clutters this blog with predictable left wing bullshit and is only excluded from demerits because he is very careful to refrain from language that offends the PC. If demerits were applied for deceit and evil ideas, this yellow backed scum bag would be on permanent suspension.)
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
PS: Nice find Malcolm! Loving the American bald eagle as symbol of true blue New Zealand. That whole website is pretty much a shrine to the delightful flying rodent essay about the internet and the legitimisation of the dickhead.
But I fear I have just doubled the number of page views…
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I don’t know if it belongs to Redbaiter. He might tell us.
If could be a parody. Peter Cresswell has been doing a fairly lame one for a while now: http://redbaitersbile.blogspot.com/
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Fair enough Reid. By the sound of things left blogs can be too restrictive which would be to their detriment, I haven’t been interested in them, been warned off too often here
Yes, gotta accept that to enable a decent level of openness and robustness it will sometimes blow too far.
December 23rd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Malcolm’s shrink obviously hasn’t had much success in curing him of his Redbaiter obsession.
Maybe Mal, you should take your addiction to a new doctor.
December 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Was that your website then, Redbaiter?
December 23rd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Malcolm, fuck off. I’m not here to jump to the tune of insipid little brownshirts who think that Kiwiblog is all about beating suspects with rubber truncheons until they plead guilty. Go away you obsessive tiresome small minded loon. Take your interrogations to the Standard with RRM and Pete.
December 23rd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
So it is your website?
December 23rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
I don’t think the Peter Cresswell site is a piss take at all. It is a documentary – and all too painfully accurate.
December 23rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Redbaiter, you should add the url to your profile. So your name becomes a link to your site.
December 23rd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Are you a bit embarrassed about your website, Redbaiter? Did it not get many visitors?
December 23rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
That truebluenz link has been pointed at reddy by various folk around the blogosphere for a few years now. If it is his he doesn’t seem to give a shit about it or he would’ve deleted it.