Hooton vs Peters
October 12th, 2008 at 9:30 am by David FarrarA television stoush between New Zealand First leader Winston Peters and a National Party insider got so heated filming was stopped and the show’s lawyer called in.
Matthew blogs he does have some regrets:
He kept calling me a liar. I kept calling him a liar. Willie stood up and said “cut” (or words to that effect). In the discussion about how to proceed after we were no longer recording, I told Winston he was a “fucking cunt” – in retrospect, I accept that I left out the important adjectives “lying” and “corrupt” between the other two appropriate but more Anglo-Saxon words.
Matthew is correct that Winston is a liar. We have a report from the Parliamentary Privileges Committee which says he is. The corruption tag is debatable – certainly knowingly filing false election expenses and donations return (as NZ First appears to have done in 2005 and 2007) is a corrupt practice. But the party secretary, not the party leader, is held liable under the law. But if the party secretary says they were never made aware of secret monies controlled by the party leader – well you see how it is certainly debatable.
And Matthew feels a bit guilty:
Finally, I am very proud that I have looked Peters in the eye and called him a liar, a crook and a fucking cunt. He has been a most evil influence on New Zealand politics since he first began telling lies, scaremongering and attacking minorities in the 1980s. And I also feel a little guilty that I have been able to look him in the eye and tell him the truth when so many other New Zealanders don’t get the same opportunity.
I can’t see much chance of a reconciliation!
Related posts:
- Hooton on Peters
- Hooton on Peters
- Peters on Radio
- What you have to believe in to believe Peters did not know
October 12th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Why the use of the term cunt though? Associating Winston Peters with something pleasurable is just wrong.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Winston is a Diva.
From my sources there is no way he can live like he does on his Ministerial Package.
So where does the extra cash come form?
Scampi, Fish, Racing, Boxing, and the like.
He has no shame, and more importantly H1 protects him. Why?
This man is a cancerous and corrosive blight on NZ Politics. the worst of the Worst. And a Lounge Lizrard!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:45 am
much better to call him and Ankle (way lower than a c**t)
lokking foward to the show ,where is the mysky remote?
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:45 am
FFS, if he drinks any more piss, he will sweat for NZ!
What a useless tosser. Just watch Labour nick his usual support base. Any vote for him or his party is wasted and Labour know it@
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Gosh, Mr. “Blog Producer” Spondre will be so disappointed. How embarrassing for Mr. Hooten be banned from his own blog.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:47 am
It still amazes me that the focus on this election is still with the Political parties and the party vote. I do not believe that is where the Government with be decided from. Most even on this site are still focused on the percentage of party vote.
Vote:My prediction: It will not be the party vote that will decide who will govern. (Obviously it will have a big part to play)
Who will govern will very likely be decided as the result of the electorate votes and this will be a first for New Zealand I believe.
Which electorates are key (no pun intended) to this result.
1. The Maori Electorates.
2. Epsom.
3. East Coast Bays.
4. Mangere.
There may be others but theses electorates have a greater potential to shape the next Government than any increase or decrease of Party vote and the battle to win them is intense. However most are unaware that it is even raging.
Time will tell. I can’t wait!!
October 12th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Oh fuck off maniac!
Go and revisit Germany, 1935-1941. You would have been at home. Tosser!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:58 am
That was for you redbaiter! you are a blight on decent society!
And your Gay mates can fuck off as well!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Well Hooten is going to have to do a lot of penance for knifing Brash when he needed support the most. But saying to Peters what needs to be said goes a looooooong way toward redemption.
While VRWC membership may be a long way off, he can have a Day Pass for now. Thank you Mr Hooten, you speak for all of us today.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 10:13 am
I agree what Hotten said was not appropriate.
Fucking lying corrupt cunt would have been the appropriate call without doubt.
He needs work but hes heading in the right direction.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 10:18 am
“Thank you Mr Hooten, you speak for all of us today.”
Are you nuts?? This is a win for Peters. Calling someone a “fucking cunt” is just pointless abuse that Winston’s fans will use for all their worth to beat up sympathy for their falsely maligned hero.
Winston’s appeal rests on the fact that above all he is a fighter, much more so than Key or even Klark, and he demonstrates this in his frequent conflicts with the mainstream media. The way to reduce this appeal is to make him look like a wittering little fool. This attack will in many places only generate sympathy and or add to his hero status.
BTW BlairM, Hooten is IMHO a politically correct pseudo liberal wanker. He’s helpful in some ways, but he participated in the undermining of Don Brash and is full of trendy progressive anti Western bullshit. He’ll never speak for me. Today or any time.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Hellfire redbaiter, you are starting to learn the game. Hooten was wrong, in that scenario. Just like you need to calm down.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Waiting for an opportunity for this one….
Winnie Peters wakes up one morning, showers and puts on his best pinstriped suit, ready for another hard day’s work in Parliament. Catching sight of himself in the mirror, he thinks “By God, Winnie, you’re looking good today. Feeling good too,”
He goes down to the kitchen where his ladyfriend hands him a bowl of cornflakes. “You’re looking fit this morning, Winnie.” “Too right” he says. “I feel good as well.” “But you don’t smell so good,” comments his beloved. He takes a sniff. “You’re right there,” he says worriedly, “I do smell a bit rough.” He finishes his breakfast, jumps into his car and drives off to go to party HQ.
He meets Dail Jones at the gates. “Alright Winnie, you’re looking good today,” says Dail. “Of course I am,” says Winnie. “But you wiff a bit,” replies Dail. “Funny that, I don’t know what it is but my chick said the same thing.” “Good morning to you,” he grins at Ron Mark. “Its a fine day, Winnie” says Ron. “And you’re looking really good.” “Hey thanks, I look good and I feel good as well” replies Winnie. “Oh Winnie!” winces Ron. “You smell awful. Skip the meeting and go to the quacks.”
Worried, Winnie visits his doctor. “Doctor, I’ve got a problem. I look good, I feel great but I smell awful.” The doctor gets out his medical dictionary. “Lets see…looks good…feels great…smells awful. Hmm, yes. Its quite simple, Mr. Peters,” says the doctor “You’re a cunt.”
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 11:26 am
hagues..can i suggest you email that to your therapist..
..i am sure he/she will be fascinated..and you illuminated..
..in so many ways..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Good on Matthew for proving that he is one of the very few NZ males (sic) who still has balls and a functioning brain. The rest of us (a few excluded) are in Arnold’s words “girly men” – if that. If we had more like him we wouldn’t have had 9 years of creeping socialism. Good to see Kerre Woodham today came out against nanny state. Is it too much to hope for more people to wake up before its too late?
Ps – John, do you have balls? – if so, show them and use them – you are being pushed around by Clark and the leftist MSM. Ask Garner if he has ever said anything under the weather that would look bad on the front page of the paper. Ask Mold the same. Ask them both who they voted for last time and why are they biased. It worked for Helen a few months ago when she berated the Herald and some nice man Peter Davis, of no disclosed relation to Clark, also wrote to the Herald at the same time. Grow some balls or a lot of the men left here won’t be here after Nov 8.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Unless National/ACT grow some tads, the evil witch will be victorious!
ATTACK, ATTACK, and ATTACK.
They are compromised and weak.
Being SMUG is fine, but they have fucked our economy!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 11:42 am
I just decoded Winston’s blinking… it’s Morse code…
Message repeats “I am f’cked”
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 11:43 am
ew..!..hooten is looking like a real dick..a petulant child..
..he just sneered at peters..’you’re an old man..!’..(!)..
.what a class act..!..that hooten..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Look whats talking.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Philu, you are entertaining if nothing else.
Will make you a $500 bet that it is National that form a Government, and that H1, H2, and WP are prosecuted within a year.
Corruption being the charge.
Deal?
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 11:56 am
peters on hooten..
“..he calls himself a conservative..but he is just a reactionary..’
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 11:58 am
“Good on Matthew for proving that he is one of the very few NZ males (sic) who still has balls and a functioning brain. ”
IMHO he’s got a long way to go to prove that he’s got either. He avoids real criticism on his blog by hiding behind the clown like censorship of the clod hopping “blog producer” Spondre. Like many liberals, Matty can dish it out to no hopers like Winston while in the protected environment of a television studio, but runs for cover from anything that really challenges his position. I repeat, calling Winston the names he did is no argument. There’s plenty you could say about Winston Peters, but all Hooten really hates him for is his anti immigration stance, a position the mainstream media driven pseudo liberal Matty mistakes for racism.
Hooten like many of his kinds sees nothing wrong with every other culture using Western Jeudo Christian culture as a doormat, and likes to join in the socialist deconstruction of our society with the kind of enthusiasm you might expect from Barack Obama but not anyone self styling themselves as a “right winger”.
As for Schwarzenegger, another pseudo liberal phoney who thru his lack of guts and leadership has seen California collapse into a typical socialist disaster a la the Soviet Union/ East Berlin.
Kerre Woodham?? Coming out against Nanny State? Don’t make me laff. This socialist clown took her holidays in Cuba and came back with glowing reports. Ignored the protesters for democracy locked in Castro’s dungeons. Been a partisan advocate all her life for the politics that have brought us to the low point we are at today.
You’re on the right track idea wise Stockbroker, but you’ll come to grief putting any faith in the likes of Hooten Woodham and Schwarzenegger. They’re the kind of politically confused idiots that are the problem not the solution.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 11:59 am
peters monstered hooten…
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Peters: “I saw the papers on the China Free Trade Deal…”
Hooton(off camera): “Did you read them?”
ROFL is the appropriate interweb term, I think.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Come on Philu, you are so confident? Because I am.
The social rat laboratory is over. $500 bucks or is that too rich for you?
The nasty, weird, and retrograde policies of the left are finished.
Cullen, a good Finance Minister is like saying that I am better than Herod at child care!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Was good to see Hooten stick it up Peters. It was long overdue.
Vote:Had to laugh at Peters saying to Jackson “I thought I was being interviewed by some impartial journo’s” – FFS, he was meaning Chris Trotter !! Lol
October 12th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
I have just watched eye to eye and IMHO neither the left or the right can claim victory (despite the juvenile attempts at trolling from the Phool) the fairest way to describe the result would be to say it was a draw.
HOWEVER, the MSM should be ashamed at how Hooten showed them up, for years the MSM have let Winston (and Klark) get away with murder, Hooten showed just how easy it is to rattle Winston, he showed just how shallow and false the man is, Hooten is the ONE commentator who has the balls to say to Winston “you lied” or “thats not correct Winston, you DID NOT say that”.
I can only hope that our weak pathetic pinko media are shamed into action over being shown how to do their job by a relative part timer.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Redbaiter – I bow to your superior background knowledge in all this (assuming it is correct!). I know in the privacy of the polling booth Woodham will vote Labour or Green, but nice to see the article in any event – http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10536992
A serious question – if you were the married father of a 4 and 6 yo boy and girl, of conservative (Judaeo-Christian) and capitalistic bent, where in the world would you live? If Clark gets back I am seriously thinking about leaving, but at the end of the day I wonder:
1. Is any place really better than anywhere else (within reason) – all have problems, (you are in WA?) and
2. at the end of the day its up to you to mark your mark and your values in your life, you can’t blame the government etc etc and become a soft c**k yourself, so leaving for “Never nebver land” may not be the solution.
Having said that, it is always nicer if the tide is running in your direction than fighting against the continual socialist mindset and propaganda.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
“I can only hope that our weak pathetic pinko media are shamed into action over being shown how to do their job by a relative part timer.”
Nothing will shame that pack of partisan propagandist bastards.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
and of course the other interesting political media today was the marae digi-poll..
..showing 47% wanted clark as p.m..
..and 7% wanted key..
..71% wanted the maori party to go with labour..
..and 68% did not want them to go with national..
..are any of you still harboring any delusions it is anything more than key..yellow-jacket..and dunny-brush..?
..post-election..?
..recent events have only compounded the unliklihood/impossibility of maori party voters/supporters wanting to support a benificiary-bashing/boot-camp threatening national party..
dream on..!..
..eh..?
..phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Redbaiter – I bow to your superior knowledge re these people (assuming it is correct!). Nonetheless, nice to see the article by Woodham in todays paper (even if in the privacy of the polling booth she votes Green or Labour) – see http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10536992
A serious question though. If you were the married father of a 4 and 6 yo boy and girl, of conservative (Judaeo-Christian) beliefs, and a capitalist, where in the wourld is the best country to live?
Depending on what happens on Nov 8th I am seriously thinkinb about leaving, but where to go? You see, I fear that:
1. All places have their issues, there is no “nirvana”, and
2. At the end of the day, it is up to you to make your mark and hold your values, you can’t just run away and blame issues on those in power, you have to take responsibility yourself.
Having said that of course, it is nice if the tide is running in your favour rather than being swamped by socialist propaganda and more and more people being brainwashed/”bought off” by the state.
Look forward to your reply.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Big Bruv, can you expand your amazing insight into how wet the Gnats are!
I really think that H1, WP, and the rest of the bandits are shit scared at the moment.
If only someone would rip them!
Helen can’t handle pressure.
Brits have no problem facing up and having a go. In fact it is ingrained. Kiwis hate confrontation. Why? If is is fair and just, expose the bastards.
I have one thought. If National were the incumbents. What would the wicked witch of the South be saying right now!
Kiwis are thick if they can’t see through the lies and propaganda!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
coventry (62) says
“I just decoded Winston’s blinking… it’s Morse code…”
Good work Coventry.
Let us know when he flashes:
a) the bank account number(s); and
Vote:b) where the bodies are burried; and
c) the identity of “the spider” and what else it bit.
October 12th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Redbaiter – I bow to your superior knowledge re these people (assuming it is correct!). Nonetheless, nice to see the article by Woodham in todays paper (even if in the privacy of the polling booth she votes Green or Labour)
A serious question though. If you were the married father of a 4 and 6 yo boy and girl, of conservative (Judaeo-Christian) beliefs, and a capitalist, where in the world is the best country to live?
Depending on what happens on Nov 8th I am seriously thinking about leaving, but where to go? You see, I fear that:
1. All places have their issues, there is no “nirvana”, and
2. At the end of the day, it is up to you to make your mark and hold your values, you can’t just run away and blame issues in those in power, you have to take responsibility yourself.
Having said that of course, it is nice if the tide is running in your favour rather than being swamped by socialist propaganda and more and more people being brainwashed/”bought off” by the state.
Look forward to your reply.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Philu, now we know where you hang out. Do you fancy a late night swim?
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
GJ – I beg to differ. Epsom is a walk in the park for Rodney and ACT, so every single party vote for ACT (like last time) counts for ACT.
Hooton owned Winston, unfortunately I believe Winston will turn it round later on and get all his supporters to feel sorry for him. This man has to go, he has to be extinguished from our Parliament in November. Kiwis may be a little slow on the uptake, but this is something everybody has to get on board with and kick him out.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Glutaemus Maximus says:
“Philu, you are entertaining if nothing else.
Will make you a $500 bet that it is National that form a Government, and that H1, H2, and WP are prosecuted within a year.”
Steady on Mr Maximus. That’s taxpayers’ money that you asking him to gamble with. He should be putting it into Kiwisaver.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Hooten called Peters “a liar, corrupt and fraud”, or very close to it. Surely for someone as litagious as Peters the lawyers will be preparing the papers as we speak. If not, WHY not?
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
fwiw, and lets hope he doesnt get beaten, a personal friend of Key says that he is dead-keen on the one-on-ones with Clark as he is sure he will beat her and show her up on nationwide TV. Last election he certainly made Cullen and Mallard look nasty and stupid on TV, so here’s hoping he can bring the poison to the surface so all can see that the Empress is a hate-filled envy-driven ruler with no clothes except for spite and control
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
stockbroker..you have obviously never watched questiontime in parliament..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Redbaiter, where exactly is your Nirvana?
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Da Vinci,
Apologies, you maybe quite right. Thought there was good money in dealing?
Will be going to say hello to Philu quite soon.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Phil – I have watched parliament – all I see is a vitriol filled, neck bulging harpy who is allowed to not answer the question, go off on some tangent, and get away with blue murder. We will have to see this week. She may be a better debater but she is a very nasty piece of work and easily provoked. We shall see
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
There is something else to be deployed if Labour insist on being sick. It will be the start of legal proceedings.
They are truly fucked. Watch Cullen and Peters sweat!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Glutaemus Maximus Says:
“Thought there was good money in dealing?”
Sorry. Bit naive really wasn’t I.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Philu, you will know when I am back.
You will be able to see the blinking amber lights.
Blink, Blink, And constant Blinking!
Even on your walks, shopping, exercise, and happy moments.
Blink.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Boat Troop always enjoyed swimming. Like REM, ‘Night Swimming’
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
y’know..words like ‘kneck bulging harpy’ do your arguments no good..
and anyway..on the debating/experience level..
..key is our sarah palin..
..in fact..he is less qualified than palin..
..what makes an ex money trader qualified to be our prime minister..?
..this is only compounded by the fact he is the most poitically inexperienced ever to stand for the job as our prime minister..
..and his nationals’ ideologies are the freemarket/privatising/deregulation ones that have wrought the carnage on wall st/the global economy..
..i mean..y’know..!
..phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Philu, $500 bucks or a lovely swim?
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
and did anyone see englishs’ dismal outing on agenda..?
..when asked about what he would do about the global meltdown..
..he was like a possum in headlights..
..and obviously hasn’t got a fucken clue..
..save parroting his tax-cut mantra..
(and we’d want him as our finance minister..?..)
….whereas david skilling was impressive..
..shame it’s too late for him to form a political party..
..he’d easily crack 5%..
..phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
“Look forward to your reply.”
Wow, not many people look forward to what I write. I must have done something wrong.
Its not a geographical place you are searching for. Its a time. The problems we face in the western world are all down to the infatuation with socialism or progressive politics that has prevailed now for more than a few decades.
You’re right. There’s practically no way to escape it because its a global plague. NZers though have a unique chance to make a difference. Being a small isolated island, it is possible to bring about change here much easier than say in Australia, Europe or the US.
That’s not saying its easy. NZ is firmly in the grip of the left, who have succeeded in weaving their ideology into NZ culture. We have gone from a nation of independent people able to fix anything with a piece of number eight wire to a country of dole bludgers and dependency freaks unable to fix a leaking tap without a legion of therapists, advisors, consultants, cultural guidelines, equal opportunity constraints, environmental regulations, sexual harassment rules, safety measures and, when we fail miserably in fixing the leak, grief counseling.
All of these things have arisen because of the idea that the primary purpose of government is to provide welfare for the citizens. We have to get back to the real purpose of government. Providing a legal framework for people to go about their lawful business, earn their own income and keep it, and own property and keep it. This objective has to be simplified, and I do this by saying we must pursue the goal of small government. Thats what we need to aim for- SMALL GOVERNMENT.
The place you are seeking will come to you here in NZ. We just need to cut back the number of politicians, the tax take, and institute a constitution that never allows the current unacceptable state of affairs to ever arise again. We don’t need Libertarianism, or Objectivism, or Liberalism, or any of that confusing crapola. We just need small almost unnoticeable government. You don’t have to go anywhere. We can do it in NZ if we all just pull together on this one issue. Get angry and tell the politicians this is what you want.
Note that in the discussions Mr. Farrar is so kindly providing in his videos, nobody is talking about making government smaller? That’s because the politicians are not getting the message. There’s two obstacles to them getting that message. One is our own apathy. The other is the mainstream media, who are largely progressives and determined to promote the ideas that have almost killed this country. Apathy we can fix by getting angry. The media we can fix by destroying their economic base. I’ve already said on a number of occasions how this should be done.
Hope this helps, and hope too that you’re not sorry you ever asked.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Redbaiter, fully agree with your reasoned argument.
I just want to march on Poland and sort it!
If you deal with the main problems, one at a time it will all reveal.
Labour are fucked. The 500+ paid for bloggers are transparent. the polls mean zip. We are ready for change.
Philu is going to be damp real soon.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
GM, that’s seventeen posts on this thread, and as many on other threads, and not one of them worth a pinch of goat shit. Why don’t you fuck off you obsessive incoherent turkey?
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Clintheine: Yes I agree with you, Rodney should romp in with Epsom. Most however, I believe have still missed my point. Rodney will win Epsom NOT on the party vote but via the ELECTORATE vote. The Maori party will gain up to seven seats NOT by way of the party vote, but via the electorate vote. Likewise if East Coast Bays and Mangere change hands they will do so via the electorate vote and not via the party vote.
Vote:If Rodney did not win Epsom a strong partner for National has possibly gone. Likewise if The Family Party picks up either East Coast Bays or Mangere another partner for National has emerged.
Just look at all the possibilities and you will see that the ELECTORATE votes in certain key electorates can have a vital part to play in the formation of the next Government.
Yet from my observation the main stream media is ignoring this power that the ELECTORATE vote holds..
My concern has always been if we only focus on the percentage of party vote, we become blinded to other genuine options that are available.
Again I say that the electorate votes may have a far greater input to the formation of our next Government this year than in any previous election.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Why don’t you wear a brown shirt you repressed homosexual fuck wit? Tell you what , tell me where to meet and I happily debate the point to death poofta!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
and Philu …. your mobs answer
more government low quality spending
ballooning hospital waiting lists
a further dumbing down of the education system
cancelling its tax cuts programme
Winston Peters for any job he cares to name
more killers let loose
further taxpayer support for NZs own ‘Sub Prime’ Bank.
a rail system that never has and never will make money
increased migration to anywhere but here
a ‘tolerable’ level of corruption in Government
the list goes on
wlecome to our bright new future per courtesy of Helen Clark and Winston Peters
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Redbaiter, you are total Nazi scum, and the gay boys that applaud you are as fucking weird!
Name the time and place for you to batter me senseless. You are a true Homo. What’s wrong did Daddy abuse you?
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
So what is wrong redbaiter? Don’t you like sand in your vaseline?
You are a pathetic prat. Come on tell me where to meet up. Sure your Gay posse will be there.
Sure that the leather smell will be a giveaway!
Poofta!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Redbaiter, thankyou for a well thought out reply. You have thought about this more deeply than I. I agree with what you say. Also, its why on a lighter note if we are ever going to win the Rugby WC it needs to be shortly, because the crop of new young guys coming through, esp. in the future, do not have the culture or the upbringing, spine, self resilience and can-do attitude of the Lochores, Whinerays, etc etc etc.
FFS, Roger Douglas has been successfully painted as some leporious cancer whereas if he hadn’t appeared we would be long gone by now. Put him in the US and he would be mainstream or even leftist! Also, as a matter of interest, if he is so bad then how much of what he did has been repealed by Clark/Cullen? Very very little because they know he is right but it doesn’t fit their brainwashing program or agenda to say so.
My hope is that Key does what it takes to gain power and then cements in a 3 or 4 term government that can unwind and re-eductate a lot of this shit thats gone down. Hell, if he only caps govenment size (I know he say he would reduce it now except the harpy would be all over him), then after 10 years of 4% inflation govenment size would be down by 32%, and thats ignoring any cuts he may end up doing over time of bloat and inefficiency.
So, thanks for your reply, keep the pricks honest
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
We are all deluded. The best thing to happen is another 3 years of faux, lying bastards.
After that socialists will never be electable. My family have decided to go to Australia.
At least there are no nasty fucking nazis like Queer Red baiter and his bum chums!
Bet he is areal pillow biter.
You are all doomed!
Bye pathetic, weirdos!
[DPF: Yes bye to this thread. No more abuse please from any side]
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
GM, serious question, I have missed this on all the debates etc, but why the mutual antipathy with Rebaiter? Dont know if he is queer as you put it or not, but if he is, so what in the scheme of political debate?
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I think someone just forgot to take their meds.
Come on GM, come give Uncle Nefarious a cuddle.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
We have taken the descision.
No more NZ.
No more nasty, and skanky politics.
Enjoy playing with the ultimate gay boy spy. I give you the person who will seek to close down any dissenting blogsite.
Redbaiter is a homosexual employed by the 9th floor to discredit right wing opinion.
500+ spin
doctors. At least one will be playing a nil sum game. Carry on, retards.
About time you got fucked from behind to wake you up!
Redbaiter will happily do it!
9th floor scum!
And Gay!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Hmm, I almost don’t want to take the shine of GM’s impressive tantrum. But NeillR, one defence to defamation is truth. So maybe Winnie won’t be able to sue because what Hooton said was 100% true. That probably not being the case, Hooton would have to go for honest opinion as his best option.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Bang on the button.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
I give up, Key and the wankers who are running the Nat’s campaign have no fucking idea, it might be best if they just conceded the unloesable election right now.
Klark was never in with a chance unless she could pull a rabbit out of her hat, she had a look and all she could find in that hat was a nightmare called “the economic crisis”, this crisis should have been enough to hand the Nat’s the election on a plate.
All week people have been asking Key if he would introduce a deposit guarantee, all week he has been saying he would “look a it” of they became government, the people want to know their money is safe and Key says he will “look at it”, quiet what he has to fucking well look at i don’t know but in the mean time…..
http://www.stuff.co.nz/vote08/4724658a28435.html
The bilious bitch has beaten him to the punch again!
The Nat’s’ are running scared of that maggot we call a PM, they have lost the ability to think on their feet, each and every plan they have must have to pass a focus group least it be unpopular with certain sectors of the population.
Just give it away John, you are a nice guy and I believe you are an honest man but you have no fucking idea how to run a campaign that is going to rid the country of a corrupt PM, just concede now and let the rest of us get on with laying off the staff and booking our flights to Australia.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Weldon today on Sunday Business (RadioLive @ 12:00 noon) said he’s put up a draft strategy to deal with the crisis and is asking for comments. Not sure of the site. His point is valid: neither party have come up with a plan. We obviously need one fast and they should already have been voicing thoughts on possibilities. To do nothing as both parties have, is just dumb.
I was expecting much more and was frankly underwhelmed.
If that’s what a TVNZ insider calls ‘the most brutal encounter ever seen on NZ TV), then fuck.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Redbaiter suggests:
While I agree with the basic hypothesis, I think you’re giving far too much credit to the politicians and would-be politicians. Are you seriously suggesting that if only the bulk of NZers clearly expressed a desire for our elected representatives to get their prying busy-body selves out of our business – and that if only the media played a different tune – they’d have an epiphany and do so?!
Can I suggest an alternative?
Over the years politics has become dominated by people who, regardless of their outward philosophies and party labels – believe they know best and have some divine right to impose their opinions (which they are always at pains to portray as fact, when usually there is little evidence-based support for them) upon us.
They in turn surround themselves with people similarly inclined. Thus the difference between the parties becomes solely the nature of the rules they wish to impose. Their methodology, on the other hand, becomes more and more congruent:
1. Conduct some sort of sham “consultation” and/or appoint some commission or other so everyone loses interest.
2. Create circuses and hand out bread to placate the frustrated masses.
3. Make a few changes to the original idea (changes which were always anticipated and which make no fundamental difference to the effect of the rules) and claim to have “listened to feedback”.
4. Impose the rule and set about convincing the more gullible sections of the populace that “rules are rules” and “the law is the law, you must abide by it even if you don’t like it”. Throw in a bit of “attacks on the integrity of the police / IRD / CYFS (insert other enforcement agency here) will lead to anarchy”.
5. Stack the enforcement agencies with people who also believe they have a divine right to rule and/or simply enjoy being bullies. Use them to suppress criticism by those on whom tactic 4 has failed. Overlook any “errors” made by the enforcers and, if they’re made so public that reaction is unavoidable, refer to 1.
Once established such a system becomes self-perpetuating. It attracts other people who would never stop to question their own omniscience if elected.
I’m not saying they don’t have genuinely-held beliefs. But if you suggested to them that their opinions were worth no more than those of the lowest (by whatever measure you choose) member of their electorate they’d be appalled.
It’s not, I put it to you, our apathy or the media that’s holding these people back from implementing smaller government. It’s the fact that big government is the most effective tool by which they can impose their will upon the rest of us.
A cynical outlook, I know, and one subject to various qualifiers… but at the heart of it I believe many – most – people stand for election at least partly because they think they know best, not to represent the people who elected them. The result is not democracy, it’s a multi-headed dictatorship, the only variance being its level of benignity.
Well enough Sunday philosophising, I’m going to sit on my balcony.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
I’m sorry Glutaemus Maximus but Redbaiter is not emploed by the 9th floor in fact his online persona was constructed as a bizarre piece of performance art by a 3rd year drama student entitled: ‘The tragedy of the wing nut’
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Redbaiter (3864) Vote: Add rating 13 Subtract rating 2 Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
“Look forward to your reply.”
“Wow, not many people look forward to what I write. I must have done something wrong.”
Redbaiter, don’t under-estimate yourself. I think you might be surprised to find how many people agree with you … they are just too fuckin gutless and scared of the PC police to show it.
As for me … I don’t have a lot of confidence in putting my thoughts in writing, but with you around I don’t need to … you say it all for me.
Are you a mind reader? LOL!
Don’t give up, don’t stop writing on KB, you’re the only one with the guts and vision to state things as they really are.
Thank you.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
I am with you big bruv.
Vote:I have spent a few weeks mooching around this blog, to get a feel for what and who to vote for.
I settled after a lot of soul searching, on my vote come election day.
Favourable to National I have to say.
Jesus John, I have turned away from the party of my family, because I believe it is led by a vindictive, power hungry, lesbian maggot, who cleverly over a long period, placed her lesbian drones into offices of power…jeez i feel sick and outraged writing this….
And you John.. got sucker punched over a deposit guarantee…COME ON FUCK YA JOHN..WAKE UP…HARDEN UP… if your advisors are advising softly softly…tell em to get stuffed…START FIGHTING ROUGH JOHN….
JEEEEEZZZZUUUUUSSSSSS
October 12th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Weldons interest is his own self interest. After how many years of buoyant economy and the stx has done what? WHY? Well simple really, to much self interest and no consumer rights or protection. Why would you go there with your money?
Its not true that no political party has put forward a plan to overcome these issues.
Vote:Goto. http://clintheine.blogspot.com/2008/10/rodney-hides-speech-to-act-campaign.html
and read it up.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
don’t bother commenting at hootens..
spondre has been through ..and deleted even the faintest criticisms of hooten/his appearance on eye to eye..
(he must be very insecure..that hooten..eh..?..unable to face/hear/see any criticism..kinda sad..eh..?..)
..what a fucken joke..!..eh..?
(quote from spondre:..’if you don’t like what matthew writes..”
..now i ask you..are these two..hooten/spondre..so ‘wet’..they need to be wrung-out/tucked into bed at night….?
(ironed jim-jams..?..d’yareckon..?..)
i mean..all i said was that hooten was like a petulant child on eye-to-eye–
..calling peters ‘an old man’..not being that classy…
..i also said that hooten reminded me of one of those auck grammer/parnell hooray henrys..
..all sneer..and no substance..
..i also disabusd him of his self-claimed pundit status..
..and what a pile of horseshit he was peddling..by saying the maori party would support national..
..there was more..but..
..but unless you are going to kiss hootens white pasty arse..
or only want to read words of praise for/about ‘matthew’ hollow-man hooten..
..i wouldn’t bother..
..eh..?
..um..!..isn’t there something somewhere in rightwing tenets..about ‘protecting free speech’..
..could another one of you rightwing ratbags email spondre/hooten a copy..
..it seems nobody told them..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Colmar Brunton remains consistent so you have to question Roy Morgan
“National is now on is on 53%, a commanding lead over Labour on 35%. The Greens are back over the 5% threshold and Act has creeped back into the picture with 2%. The Maori Party is not really featuring in the party vote on 1.8% and New Zealand First is crumbling away under 2% support.”
however the Nats campaign to date is flat to say the least. DPF. Do you know if McCully still strategic advisor for the Nats campaign?
BTW did anyone else notice that liability Maurice Williamson managing to fuck up his 2 seconds of fame on TV1 news – held his hoarding upside down to the camera FFS
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Phule you’re a crack up (pardon the pun)
Vote:If you judge Hootens class by .”calling peters ‘an old man’..not being that classy…” then you must have an extremely low opinion of yourself?
October 12th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
“… The media we can fix by destroying their economic base. I’ve already said on a number of occasions how this should be done. ”
I’ve got a suggestion. Requiring all TV stations – including privately owned ones – to run at least two minutes of public advertising per hour, PRO BONO. This would reflect the ‘public service’ ideal of broadcasting, and compensate for the fact that TV3′s profits go offshore.
the Left could hardly complain….
….an the effect on TV3′s share price and bottom line would have the CEO replacing Garner, et al, in no time flat.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Vyvyan. The point Peters honed in on was Hooten calling him a’ fraud’
Vote:As the SFO have cleared him of Fraud he may have a legal point,……. but interesting to note he didn’t object to been called a liar and a crook!
October 12th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
a recent exchange at hootens joke/excuse for a blog..
# Lee-Anne Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
I can’t believe that Hooten thinks that it is okay and that he is proud that he called Peters a F***** C***. I am a primary school teacher and his behaviour is unbelievable. What kind of role model does he think he is? I certainly hope he doesn’t have children! What kind of standards does Hooten have? Not very high standards obviously. Let’s hope we can publicly hear people share their views and opinions without the abuse that Hooten displayed today.
# Boyd Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
hey bryan
can you please remove all my posts
thank you
No.
Bryan Spondre
Blog Producer
# phil ure Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
not h ere you won’t lee-ann..
..you’ll be censored out..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
phil, you are banned.
Bryan Spondre
Blog Producer
# phil ure Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
you just don’t ‘get it’..?..this blog thing..
..dio you spondre..?
..phil(whoar.co.nz)
Goodbye Phil.
Bryan Spondre
Blog Producer
# phil ure Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
yet mcdad can say..
“..Peters is a fucking lying corrupt cunt…”
and not a murmer from you..eh spondre..
..don’t let me ever hear you or hooten ever claiming to be journalists of any stripe..
..you are propagandists..
nothing more..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
# Lee-Anne Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
From what I have seen it is okay for Hooten to use swear words and be rude about someone else but as soon as someone else does it to him their post gets removed. It doesn’t seem fair…its all very one sided. Not a true blog session really.
Lee Ann – this is not a democracy. Comments are deleted if they are offensive trolling. philu has demonstrated repeatedly on this and other blogs that he is a troll.
Bryan Spondre
Blog Producer
# Ianmac Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Phil ure, Lee-anne, I agree. My critisism of Hooten was very mild. (Childish, badly behaved.) I did not swear, as Mattew proudly did and repeated. I didn’t accuse him of lying. Interesting that in view of the alleged loss of Free Speech EFA, it is weird that some of us have been Censored out. Shame Bryan!
he’e a fucken joke eh..?..that spondre..?
..and ‘pussy’ hooten..whimpering behind him..
rightwing warriors..eh..?
(heh-heh..!..)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
“..# Lee-Anne Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
From what I have seen it is okay for Hooten to use swear words and be rude about someone else but as soon as someone else does it to him their post gets removed. It doesn’t seem fair…its all very one sided. Not a true blog session really.
Lee Ann – this is not a democracy. Comments are deleted if they are offensive trolling. philu has demonstrated repeatedly on this and other blogs that he is a troll.
Bryan Spondre
Blog Producer
# Ianmac Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Phil ure, Lee-anne, I agree. My critisism of Hooten was very mild. (Childish, badly behaved.) I did not swear, as Mattew proudly did and repeated. I didn’t accuse him of lying. Interesting that in view of the alleged loss of Free Speech EFA, it is weird that some of us have been Censored out. Shame Bryan!..”
(says it all really..eh..?..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Rex Widerstrom says:
“Well enough Sunday philosophising, I’m going to sit on my balcony.”
Quite right too. Just don’t jump off it.
You have every right to be cynical. Its called “the tail wagging the dog”. They do in fact have genuinely held beliefs; its just that those beliefs tend to reflect minority perspectives. Some refer to this democratic phenomenon as MMP.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Phule
sounds like you and Lee Ann could be hitting it off!
If she’s the right gender for you maybe something could develop?
you should not let her go,……….
(get her email address)
after time she could look after the kids…
whilst you go and get a fucken job – you whingeing dickhead
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Nobody cares what redbaiter says coz he is a fascist. And i don’t think i’m being reductive when i say: ‘nobody likes a fascist’. But then i guess i am excluding other fascists. maybe you could say ‘only a fascist could like another fascist.’ There – i think my theory is quite complete.
I dunno why you guys wanna bugger off to ausfailia. Guess who is in government over there? Yeah that’s right the Labour Party – a left-wing government. I reckon the perfect place for u boiz is the good ol US of A. God – just think –
)
huge tax cuts
long, long jail sentences
death penalty
war in iraq (all those big guns and explosions, you could even send your son and daughter along)
no seperation between church and state
small government
rich folk get to whatever they wanna do
no one cares about the poor folk
its like a paradise for you guys. All your wildest economic and social fantasies come true.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Patrick Starr says:
“however the Nats campaign to date is flat to say the least. DPF. Do you know if McCully still strategic advisor for the Nats campaign?”
Tragically, the observation in the first sentence provides the answer to the second. What was that song .. “when will they ever learn ” ? Oversights of this kind also explain the perseverance with M Williamson (National Party Spokesman for Pique and Self-Interested Subversion of the party interest).
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Oi idioturdboy, does “ausfailia” have a lying witch as a PM, who is enjoying the Absolute Power regime?
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Not yet, but Rudds deputy is an absolute fan of Helen’s so Rudd had better watchout; along with the rest of the aussies.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
“Oi idioturdboy”
Oi turd4justice,
you could describe kevin rudd like that i spose. just get rid of the feminine ‘witch’. how bout ‘a lying wizard as a pm, who is enjoying the absolute power regime’(?) So what do you think about moving to america?
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
The turd bit was a typo you stupid idiot and shove your green card up your fetid arse!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
(more from hootens blog..before spondre censors it..
..he is getting the bitch-slap he deserves..eh..?..)
# Ianmac Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Phil ure, Lee-anne, I agree. My critisism of Hooten was very mild. (Childish, badly behaved.) I did not swear, as Mattew proudly did and repeated. I didn’t accuse him of lying. Interesting that in view of the alleged loss of Free Speech EFA, it is weird that some of us have been Censored out. Shame Bryan!
Ianmac – perhaps you should have a flick through the comments on Matthews threads and Chris’s threads. I think you will find we are a lot more tolerant than certain other blogs e.g. “The Standard”.
We don’t however accept the level of vileness offered by “D4J”, “redbaiter”, “Dylan Robinson aka robinsod”, “philu”, “IrishBill” on other blogs.
Bryan Spondre
Blog Producer
# Bridgid Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Yes, I’ve got to say that I agree with Lee Anne. At the very top of this thread a poster (Dire Straits) says that Matthew Hooton is “f—ing awesome” for dishing it out to Winston Peters, yet other posts critical of Matthew Hooton (that used less colourful language also) have been removed. Lets have some consistency here please.
My two sons are aged 13 and 10, and are just starting to get interested in politics and the upcoming elections – but I am glad they didn’t watch Eye to Eye today and the childish antics displayed on there. I want them to watch some of the shows covering Election ‘08 but not ones like that!
And Matthew boasting that he called WP a “f-ing c-nt” just makes me sick – I too hope that he doesn’t have children and speak in that manner around them – very BAD role modelling!!!
# Fergie Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
But Bryan I am NOT a troll – I am a genuine interested participant like Lee Anne and Bridgid – I raised genuine concerns about the language allowed on this blog when posted about another person – yet my posts were regarded as vile ????
I do have genuine concerns about the type of journalism that Matthew subscribes to and my comments are mild compared that those has expressed on this blog., and Matthew’s own conduct and language. His obsession with Winston knows no bounds of decency.
If you only want people that agree and want to use the sort of language you subscribe to then you should close the blog to people who agree with you – might save you a lot of time censoring.
# Bryan Spondre Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Fergie – this post has had around 1100 views (900 uniques) sinced it was posted 12 hours ago. Of those 900 people only 3 have been banned for making unacceptable comments. One of those banned (philu) is a habitual troll banned from several of the other top NZ political blogs.
Hardly qualifies as censorship does it?
Bryan Spondre
Blog Producer
# Fergie Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Bryan
You have removed three of my posts – was expecting this to be gone by supper too.
It appears only posts that suggest Matthew have a long hard think about himself have been censored – I rarely post to any blog – I certainly do not swear, but I challenge you to tell me what was more offensive about my posts than the others on this blog
You might have had 900 views, but of the 44 posts here 3 of mine have been censored and regarded as vile – that Bryan is 7 % censorship ( not to mention those of Philu’s) and any others you removed. We do live in democracy Bryan and if you don’t want to hear other’s views then you should run it for ‘members only’..”
(and this is an outright lie..
“..One of those banned (philu) is a habitual troll banned from several of the other top NZ political blogs..”
name the ‘top political blogs’..!….that i am banned from..
..you lying bastard spondre..
..phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Phool
First of all, NOBODY gives a fuck if you are having a flame war with Matthew Hooten.
Secondly, why post it here?, don’t you have your own illegible blog to post crap such as this?
Thirdly,……… just fuck off!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Philu:
Hooten made his position clear in this exchange with you recently:
Your response was ad-hominen-loaded (“hey..!..fuck you too..!..hooten..!”) – but you did make this claim:
So why do you care?
Back to the topic of this thread. I agree with Big Bruv above who said it was a draw:
In my experience, Eye-to-Eye is a verbal joust where Jackson gets his guests worked up about, well, not very much really.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
thedavincimode. (actually I asked), but nonetheless it explains a lot. McCully has no feel for the mood of the nation, an inept fool who has a track record worse than the last FOUR rugby world cup coaches
Labour would never win this election – The Nats would lose it
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Willie Jackson comments on Hooten
“I have to say, it was quite shocking behaviour from Mr Hooton. If he’d done it to (NZ First MP) Ronnie Mark he would have got his head knocked in.”
Another failed Labour policy – Jackson shows a typical maori reaction: its OK to knock someones head in, ….but ‘shocking’ to call a spade a spade?
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
“..So why do you care?..”
i think hooten and spondre should be exposed for the censoring propagandists they are..
..how they make a total joke of rightwing claims of ‘protecting free speech’..
..esp as hooten claims some sort of (self-deluded)..rightwing punditry ..
they are both ‘naked’..y’see..
..and spondre lowers himself even more..
..cos’ he is now proven to be an outright fucken liar..
(this has been a public service announcement)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Philu:
No argument from me – I completely agree that Spondre’s moderation style is over-the-top. But, at the same time, it’s his blog and his rules. Even DPF’s posting policy makes it clear that posting is a privilege, not a right, and anyone is allowed to post unless DPF asks them to stop or suspends them.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
god dad for justice why so personal? glad you’re not my dad, what a role model. oh and way seek out “justice”…sigh
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
I did wonder when Aunty Helen would drag out the pus writers.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Speaking of blogs, which Philu raised, I see Hooten’s blog post says:
So the critical issue is actually a narrow one.
Now we turn to this blog post on WinnieBlog (leaving aside the question whether it’s actually his authorship):
Fair-minded New Zealanders will be intrigued that Winston Peters publicly denies a statement that appears on his own blog.
Oh, and 11 comments on that WinnieBlog post – and all of them highly complimentary of Winnie the Pooh.
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
d4j -
please be so kind as to refrain from such colourful colloquialisms when in the company of those more sensitive dispositions who reveal the essence of their good nature when taking offence to your less than respectful remarks. Please do refrain, kind sir!
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Dad and Hooton need to get a blog going. Possibly more putrid than anything coming out of the rear end of Bill O’Reilly after a bender involving copious amounts of lager and curry.
Hooton is an idiot, anyone knows that. This is the same guy who said that NZ has a worse environmental record than George Bush, or that New Zealand will no longer be a first world nation.
But boy do you folk love him. Still I guess it’s the natural want to gravitate to like…
Vote:October 12th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
But please DPF don’t ban Dad again, the bloody blogosphere was littered with his shite all because he couldn’t come here and play.
Vote:October 13th, 2008 at 1:30 am
Idiotboy:
Vote:Redbaiter is many things, some of which are rather non-complementary; however he is definitely not a facist. Redbaiter is always campaigning to reduce the state, while facists generally seek to expand it. For example Hitler’s policies included workers joining a national union, repeatedly attacking so-called “big capitalism”, and generally increasing state control and regulation over peoples lives. It is rather unfortunate that due to ignorance, or the intent to deliberately mislead, people have tended to draw a line between facism and and anything right wing. The analogy does not hold, especially with regard to libertarian policies, which are for all intents and purposes polar opposites of facism.
October 13th, 2008 at 3:15 am
idiotboy is another of sonic and the rest of the standard retards non-de-plumes this month.
best ignore the trash.
Hooten – great call on Winnie, he is a fucking cunt who has fucked over NZ for his own gain.
Vote:October 13th, 2008 at 4:05 am
“Still I guess it’s the natural want to gravitate to like…”
so Paul, is it Philu that attracts you to Kiwiblog?
Vote:Why don’t you two double your visitor counts and stick to each others sites
October 13th, 2008 at 5:30 am
Paul I don’t think David F needs advice from a deranged Aunty Helen lickspittle.
Vote:October 13th, 2008 at 6:00 am
No bounce for Winston in the polls yet?
Good good.
Vote:October 13th, 2008 at 6:12 am
Ah Paul, I call you on that lie. NZ does have a worse environmental record than the US.
Vote:October 13th, 2008 at 6:27 am
Paul,
Are you really from Linwood? Or do you think it makes you look debonair and witty slagging the middle classes of Linwood?
Tosser.
Vote:October 13th, 2008 at 6:45 am
Reposting the highlights of this:
http://clintheine.blogspot.com/2008/10/rodney-hides-speech-to-act-campaign.html
Vote:October 13th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Philu claimed: “and his nationals’ ideologies are the freemarket/privatising/deregulation ones that have wrought the carnage on wall st/the global economy”
Wrong and provably so.
1. The lending institutions are all regulated by government decree and have been since the 1930′s. There is no free market.
2. All governments control the money supply through central banks. There is no free market.
3. And finally, when the Democratic Party gained control of Congress two years ago one of the first pieces of legislation they passed was one that forced lending institutions to give loans to people with bad credit, on the basis that not doing so “descriminated” against the poor and blacks. Which is an example of socialist stupidity, not the free market.
In short, it is ongoing centralized socialist control of the money supply, the banks and the economy, in the US, in the EU, in China and in Aussie/NZ that is responsible for the current mess.
Vote:October 13th, 2008 at 11:09 am
dad4justice (oh right, i get it, 4 is four, how witty…) no the fact that i think you’re an idiot has nothing to do with my political leanings. if anything i’m a darwinist and believe that people like yourself should be prohibited from breeding lest you produce more reactionary idiots in the same mould as yourself.
Vote:October 13th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
paradigm,
Sir – please accept my most humble apologies for my slander upon the kind gent redbaiter.
I stand corrected. You are indeed correct in saying that fascism favours large government and indeed redbaiter is one to favour small government.
I fear that I had not thought through the complete ramifications of my statement before committing it to posterity via my pen – poisoned as it seems now to be.
Rest assured my error weighs heavily on my heart and my only hope is that the kind and benevolent proprietor of this most respectable establishment will continue to offer me the privilege of commenting so that I might prove myself again worthy of such a privilege.
You sir – prove yourself to be a man among men, a men’s man, in short – an honourable gentleman – by way of your exemplary conduct in pointing out such an injustice. You stand firmly, esteemed sir, where others may have wavered.
Vote:October 13th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
You’re still a tosser idiotboy.
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