Neo Nazi Watch
January 20th, 2009 at 4:00 pm by David FarrarSpies have forwarded on this email:
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:46:03 +1300
From: info@nationalistalliance.org.nz
Subject: Nationalist Land base
Hello Patriots
Nationalist Land base
Introduction
With an ever decreasing European population we face the real risk of having no power in our Nation. It currently crumbles through the current system of bad government policies, greedy politicians and businessmen. We must act to build a unified mini state that we could build up in future to be a base for other like minded Europeans to come to from other dieing countries.
Oh yes a whites only mini state is just what we want in NZ. Mind you I suspect Jewish Europeans are also unwelcome, even if they are white. Aryans only basically.
Donations needed
We need your commitment. This is your chance to put in some support for our cause and its future. You can be remembered for something real. Please help us to make this happen. We need your help!
All Organisations that Help will have a shield of banner on the wall of the meeting house. All individuals who help will have their name on the plaque we put on the longhouse wall. We have a few people already who will commit to sell their own properties and move as close to the base as possible. Some of us have set up Auto payments and personal donations. Please put your donations into this bank account:
Name: Nationalist Alliance
Number: 03 1591 0227948 00
Bank: Westpac (Eastgate, Christchurch
Wow donate now and you get your own shield of banner.
Location
The First Base we set up will be in North Canterbury area somewhere. This will be reviewed at the time of purchase. Once we have created a strong area with an active base for recruiting and building a money base we will be able to buy other areas around New Zealand.
First North Canterbury, then New Zealand. Lucky Clayton Cosgrove gets to host the first neo nazi base. At least they might take care of the boy racers!
Proposed Features of the base
• Meeting house (longhouse) for Gatherings of leaders and active Nationalists.
• Bunk Rooms for young single people who are either visiting or want to live in cheap accommodation.
• Unit sized Gotages for couples and small families.
• Schooling for our children.
• Work shop for engineering activities, wood work, and other relevant items we could create.
• Training area for sport fighting.
• Survivalist Training.
• Teaching improved lifestyles through returning to a nature based living style.
• Large Vegetable garden to not only supply the community with fresh vegetables but also give surplus to local people to build support.
• Tap into a natural water supply.
• Social Bar for fundraising and building unity with social activities.
• Protected community.
• Create a few small businesses so that we can create a trade system and bring in profits from outside our communities that will help us to buy more land and keep building.
Well the vegetable garden and natural water supply sound most laudable. A school for their own childrenwould be fascinating.
Benefits
• High concentration of like minded folk to elect local officials into the area.
• Elect an MP for the area.
First take over the Waimakariri District Council, then get your own MP. Watch out Clayton!
• Keep our children away from the multicultural brainwashing of current system schools.
• Get our people back on track with a more stable and relaxed
lifestyle that teach self care and community care.
• Encouraging, supportive and friendly interaction with like minded people.
• Safety in numbers.
• Ability to put our European skills and intelligence to create new technologies and build something to be proud of.Kyle Chapman
Personally I like the idea of all the white supremacists living together.
Related posts:
- Neo Nazi Infighting
- Labour is promising a new house every 13 minutes of the working week!
- The creeping face of Socialism
- Destiny City
January 20th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
they could pool their money to buy an island and that would save them the cost (time and money) of building a wall/defences around the edges.
it would also have the added benefit that we wouldn’t have to see or interact with them.
as far as their schools go… surely there wouldn’t be any children as CYFS should remove all children from birth from any parent who is as crazy as these nutters.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
” Keep our children away from the multicultural brainwashing of current system schools.
• Get our people back on track with a more stable and relaxed
lifestyle that teach self care and community care.
• Encouraging, supportive and friendly interaction with like minded people.
”
These are all right out of the Home Schooler’s manual.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
I suspect Kyle has been watching too much American real crime type TV shows.
I will however follow the advice of the Invergiggle scum supporters and defend his right to spout whatever crap he wishes.
One thing though; Why North Canterbury? There’s a spot just outside Hamilton that would be perfect for your lot Kyle and it’s closer to the other separatist outfits so you could swap tales.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
As a 5th generation New Zealander of English descent, I wish them well with their endeavours to find a homeland.
I propose they be given one quadrant of Palmerston North, which could then be walled in.
Any that then wish to return to New Zealand could perhaps be taken to a more cosmopolitan place like Auckland, and shown foreign women, whereafter I suspect most of them will quickly learn that it is better to make love, not war…
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Yawn… Kyle Chapman showing yet again he is no real threat as you need to be popular before you can ever build a movement that could ever be a threat…
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
My trebuchets and I are standing by.
Kyle, less commando comics chap.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Rat, I approve your proposal, it will save me transportation costs.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA they could turn it into big brother! Dime would watch that shit!!!
imagine the child abuse that would take place.. would be horrific. like half those nutbags didnt experience special love from their uncle terry
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
I’m glad DPF posted this. A lot of people dismiss neo-nazi’s as idiots and so on. Research has proven that most are well educated and wealthy.
Look at libertarianz view of the Jew ban in cafes – the owner has not been vilified as a bigot – in fact he is hailed as a hero of property rights.
Also look at Cresswell and that Crusader Rabbit guy’s utter irrational hatred of the marginally Jewish John Key.
Don’t tell me this sort of thought is not in the mainstream. It is just disguised a little bit.
Murray’s solutions have merit.
[DPF: I don't think anyone has hailed the cafe owner as a hero. More a case of some defend his right to be a bigot]
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Now, now, don’t go into places for which your brain is ill equipped.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
I wonder how well the Racist Nation 1st XV would do against the NZ Maori?
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
But do they have secret decoder rings?
And a sign on their tree house saying “no girlz alowd”?
And lashings of ginger beer?
If so, I might be tempted to join…
Ratbiter says:
Oh come on, surely you don’t hate them that much?
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
First he pissing off the Thai’s.
Now it’s the neo-Nazi’s.
David, wassup with you today?
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
“I wonder how well the Racist Nation 1st XV would do against the NZ Maori?”
Yeah, they could play for the segregation memorial shield
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
I think he’s been reading from the Muslim infiltration manual. Do they plan to build a mosque.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Ruth – well-educated? Really? Did you not notice the poor spelling and grammar?
Vote:These idiots don’t even know their own culture, let alone anyone else’s. And just imagine all the suppressed homo-erotic fun in those single men’s bunks or “the Longhouse” .
January 20th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Citation needed.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Interesting mix of hippy Green stuff and some things that some on this site who are further to the right might say.
That is:
– our own plants, water etc, living at one with nature = Green
– keep those communist teachers away from our kids = right wing nutjob
For me, I would love all the skin heads to be together in one place. We’ll get the policy to visit at least once a week – it’ll be just like when they visit the mongrel mob. That will then lead to them having a persecution complex, and before you know it they’ll be lashing out in unattractive ways. Great.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Rex,
“But do they have secret decoder rings?
And a sign on their tree house saying “no girlz alowd”?
And lashings of ginger beer?
If so, I might be tempted to join…”
You’re a cheap catch, aren’t you? Not even holding out for L&P …
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Is anyone else tempted to start sending them lots of lovin’ now that we know their e mail address?
info@nationalistalliance.org.nz
You know: Hi – My 21yo Chinese pro beach volleyballer girlfriend and I were so impressed with what you’re doing, we just HAD to stop short our 2 hours of crazy inter-racial sex to send you our support and best wishes. You guys rock! Carry on the good work.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
“A lot of people dismiss neo-nazi’s as idiots and so on. Research has proven that most are well educated and wealthy.”
I’d like to see that research. I wonder if they know how to use possesive apostrophes as well?
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Bummer Bradbury at Tumeke
Vote:http://tumeke.blogspot.com/2009/01/invercargill-new-home-of-human-rights.html
January 20th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Obligatory Post. Apologies to those who have seen
John Safran tries to join the KKK
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=SFMC4uxNhKw
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
I wish to add my name to the board in the long room. My name is Paki PumbaTopoRembe.
How much?
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
AG:
Since being haughtily informed by “Pablo” that I had nothing worthwhile to contribute to the rarified air at Kiwipolitico I’ve learned not to set my sights too high, AG.
I figure if I let them borrow my bicycle (which has a light and a basket) then I might get shown the secret stash of L&P.
Then me, Timmy, the curiously androgynous obese girl and the rest might go looking for secret Nazi spies at the old farm!
Oh, wait…
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
“Since being haughtily informed by “Pablo” that I had nothing worthwhile to contribute to the rarified air at Kiwipolitico”…
Coming from that source, you got off light. Didn’t try and appeal to his Western Liberal Guilt, by any chance?
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
“Look at libertarianz view of the Jew ban in cafes – the owner has not been vilified as a bigot – in fact he is hailed as a hero of property rights.”
Ruth…I credited you with having at least half a clue….but that sentence has changed my mind.
Ever heard the saying “I disagee with what you say/do but I defend to the death your right to do it…?”No….it shows…
“Also look at Cresswell and that Crusader Rabbit guy’s utter irrational hatred of the marginally Jewish John Key.”
Its not because hes a Jew Ruth…its that they find him too socialist lite to be worth a dam if things are to really change for the better in NZ…If it IS because he’s a Jew then they would be hypocrites and scumbags….but I think not.
[DPF: I don't think anyone has hailed the cafe owner as a hero. More a case of some defend his right to be a bigot]
Exactly….please learn to tell the difference Ruth…
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
KiwiGreg you may find said research in David Neiwert’s books “Death of the 4th July”, “In God’s Country” and his essays on the rise of pseudo-fascism. He went to many neo-nazi meetings and confirmed the people there are indistinguishable from a church or any other community group.
Oh and check out the thread on Perigo’s blog where the libz stance in criticised. http://www.solopassion.com/node/5812
Neo Nazi’s don’t just have shaved heads. That is why they gain influence if we let them.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Sounds like a KKK Wildlife Sanctuary. The Natural History Unit might want to do a documentary on this endangered species:
“Here, we see the mating dance, which consists of vigorous flag waving, showing off their swastika plumes, and a piercing cry of “Oi! Oi! Oi!”
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
AG:
Poor Pascal’s Bookie and I made the mistake of descending into satire. Oh, and I said “bugger”, which got replaced by question marks, and was told I was “crass”. Inept comment editing made it look, though, as if PB had said something hideously inappropriate and that I’d resorted to some unspeakable insult in response.
I really don’t have the time to deal with someone who makes Miss Manners look anal retentive whilst at the same time behaves like a spoiled child who’s been told he’s just wet his pants. Hence they shall be denied my worthless crassness from hereon
And I thought I’d seen the epitome of that particular archetype after having dealt with a certain lycra-clad political figure.
Pity, though… Anita’s stuff is the kind of intelligent, philosophical not-just-focused-on-today writing I really enjoy, even if I dispute some of her conclusions. But till it finds another outlet, I’ll leave them to their shrinking echo chamber.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
“• Ability to put our European skills and intelligence to create new technologies and build something to be proud of.”
I think with the gene pool that the Nationalist Alliance will have, they may be some what lacking in the “European Skills and Intelligence” department.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Bugger me eh? wonder what has gotten into the water supply lately.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
New years resolutions:
Spend more time with the family
Quit smoking
Get fit
build white mini state
They could start with a kool aid factory.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Ratbiter “You know: Hi – My 21yo Chinese pro beach volleyballer girlfriend and I were so impressed with what you’re doing, we just HAD to stop short our 2 hours of crazy inter-racial sex to send you our support and best wishes. You guys rock! Carry on the good work.”
hahaha. Brilliant. More than tempting, I can see myself being very naughty with that email address after a few evening vinos
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Sounds like they’re planning on setting up a commune. They’re Commie-Nazis!
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Replace ‘base’ with ‘Marae’, ‘European/white’ with ‘Maori’ and what do you have…..
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
LC –
One of those institutions spends its energies looking after what is intrinsically unique and good in its own heritage. The other spends its energies hating and victimizing other “inferior” people based on the colour of their skin.
I can appreciate how someone might mistake one for the other. Not.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Yeah rat, one organisation would exclude me because of my race, and the other would exclude me because of my race.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
LC
You raise an interesting point, I cannot see a lot of difference between them to be honest.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Gotta getta gottage
Vote:Gotta getta Fourth Reich
January 20th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Like many other idiot groups that proclaim their ethnicity as been threatened, so these fools unite to preserve their gene pool, least they be “infected”. For Gods sake these simple minded imbeciles really need to take a reality check. Pray tell what is the “European way”. Europe is a large collection of countries all very different and skin heads come out of most of these counties. Is a German skinhead as good as a pommy skinhead?. I see they talk about education and technology, I would hope they only use an education system that does not take advantage of knowledge or information not coming from non European sources . In the same vain I would hope they do not drive Jap cars or wear cloths made in China or consume Aussie beer. Life, especially human life is about diversity, every culture has something to offer and there would be very few people left in the world with what would be considered pure blood lines and I would bet the farm that the Nationalist Alliance is no different.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Do these freaks allow sunbathing in their ‘Brown Shirt’ world?
Surely it would set them apart from the rest?
I have blue eyes, and silver hair. Some of my East Cape Maori friends also have blue eyes.
Confusing isn’t it?
Are they atheists? So many questions? Think I might apply. Any club that would accept me isn’t worth joining! GM
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
LC
“Yeah rat, one organisation would exclude me because of my race, and the other would exclude me because of my race.”
Umm … have you ever been on a Marae? If not, just go down to the local one and ask for a tour. It really isn’t scary. Honest.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
“The First Base we set up will be in North Canterbury area somewhere”
Vote:suprise suprise
January 20th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
LC
Neville Key is going to exclude you because of your race as well, remember the “non Maori will not be consulted” comment?
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
AG, as long as one has not been invited as lunch
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
I think that when we talk about extremists of any colour or creed, wanting to set up a separate area seems to be one of the ideas that they come up with. If neo-nazis want their base, and Urewera terrorists want their maraes it’s just the same words and ideas used with ‘insert name of organisation here’. And that’s all I was commenting on.
BB, like Obama for the US I was hopeful of change. Consultation where everyone gets a chance to voice views and opinions would help strengthen the democratic process. Am I expecting too much from our PM?
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Kyle Chapman also runs this site http://www.surviveclub.org.nz.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
I vote we put them on ‘White’ Island – must be due for another eruption soon.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Can I haz shield of banner in Hebrew please with European intelligence kebab?
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Talking of echoes of old and new nazi-ism, the Christchurch Press today ( 20 Jan) carries a letter from one Ken McAllister about the Gaza demonstration in Christchurch on Saturday. McAllister says he shouted “No” when a speaker asked the crowd to support and copy the refusal to accept Jews as customers in New Zealand.
On the opposite page, Fairfax star columnist John Minto rants on about Goldman Sachs JB Were, which he says is in a towering building in Auckland’s Shortland Street, which he calls “the New Zealand equivalent of Wall Street”. One wonders how his brother, formerly chief of one of the country’s biggest insurance-financial companies, would think of that.
There was collusion between National Socialists and German capitalists, because the latter feared communism. But there is little doubt that if Nazi-ism had survived German industries would have been nationalised.
Calls for boycotting Jewish shops and thunder about big business. Sounds an ominous combination to me.
Vote:January 20th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Has any psychiatrist examined John Minto? He is off his tree.
I couldn’t help myself – finally I had to post a message on
http://www.stuff.co.nz/blogs/frontline/2009/01/15/gaza-why-we-need-more-info-not-less/wp-comments-post.php
NOTE: a similar post in Fairfax’s Saturday Age here prompted a retraction and ‘apology’ of sorts. I doubt that would happen in NZ.
For more news on the Age article look for the group on Facebook “I’M DISGUSTED BY “THE AGE”!!!”
Vote:January 21st, 2009 at 12:16 am
Hey Jack5
Vote:Recommend reading some Ernst Nolte – understand Fascism – the 3 Faces – where it is today. Also recommend that when you are thinking about “collusion” with the Na(z)tional Socialists you also read Lenni Brenner – and such – (51 Documents)
January 21st, 2009 at 1:01 am
side show bob
Vote:Is it a shame that Talmudic assertations of purity were embraced in the Nuremburg purity laws of 1935? The Nazis were protecting the Purity of – ??
January 21st, 2009 at 9:42 am
how odd
Vote:of god
to choose
the jews
and not
notice the
purer fuhrer
January 21st, 2009 at 10:23 am
Some funny buggers on this thread – ironic that the white supremacists are bringing out the best in people (to a point).
Vote:January 21st, 2009 at 10:41 am
I feel the need to build a synagogue… whats on the other the side of the road of this nutburger farm?
Vote:January 21st, 2009 at 11:56 am
A billboard extolling the virtues of somalian-indian fusion cuisine would be cheaper.
Vote:January 21st, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Jack5,
Did he call for the crowd to refuse to accept Jews or did he call for the crowd to refuse to accept Israelis?
Vote:January 21st, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Jack5,
Was the speaker calling for a boycott of Israelis or was the speaker calling for a boycott of Jewish people?
Vote:January 21st, 2009 at 12:49 pm
A Muay-Thai kickboxing Dojo?
I’d pay decent money to see those guys kick the crap out of a bunch of neo Nazis!
Vote:January 21st, 2009 at 12:51 pm
“Once we have created a strong area with an active base for recruiting and building a money base …”
Someone has spent a little bit too much time playing “Command and Conquer”…
Vote:January 21st, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Haha! More gold.
Vote:January 21st, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Ryan: Re your query at 12.08pm…
I didn’t attend the demonstration. I disagree strongly with its intent, and it was too far to drive just to watch loons looning.
I’ve thrown away the paper now, but I’m sure McAllister, the letter writer, said the call was for a boycott of Jews specifically, not Israelis. Any way good on McAllister. Obviously a lefty with a soul.
Vote:January 21st, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Ryan: Re your inquiry at 12.05pm.
McAllister the letter writer, reported the call was against Jews. I didn’t attend the demo for obvious reasons.
Vote:January 21st, 2009 at 2:16 pm
“Replace ‘base’ with ‘Marae’, ‘European/white’ with ‘Maori’ and what do you have…..”
Something that doesn’t make any sense. I’ve been on plenty of Marae – inluding Tuhoe and Black Power ones – and nobody ever told me I wasn’t allowed in because I’m white. Can’t recall any Maori calling for “Maori-only state” ever. It’s possible some nut did at some time, I suppose – Maori have random nutcases just like Pakeha do.
On the “whites-only” enclave – I recall years ago some extremist Afrikaners in South Africa tried to set up a “whites-only” settlement, but had to change their policywhen the found they couldn’t cope without Black servants to do the cleaning. Though I guess the Canterbury guys will overcome that by getting their mums to drop in with some clean towels and freshly-ironed ‘Skrewdriver’ T-shirts from time to time.
Vote:January 21st, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Awesome. This idiots are one of my reasons to move from europe to New Zealand.
I am smiling when this kinda people are talking about things they could be “proud of”.
Now, I am working for a german originated company and 100 of my collegues has 38 different original language and all off skin colour I ever imagined. I say thank you to new zealand for this opportunity and for this community wich is free of stupid, blinkered ethnic issues.
Multicultural brainwash or white power? I already chosen…
Vote:January 22nd, 2009 at 9:58 am
Do you recall seeing Marae blocking all ‘Pakeha media’ from entering? Can’t quite recall what occasions those were, but might’ve been Waitangi day(s).
Certainly, nutcases are everywhere, but often pounced on and displayed as if they’re representative of the rest e.g. Environmentalism, feminism.
Vote:January 22nd, 2009 at 10:03 am
I note that this story has gone big in the media, well done to DPF for beating the media to the punch once again.
On the down side, it just proves how lazy our media are, where once they might have been out digging up their own stories the lazy bastards now seem happy to sit on their fat backsides trolling the internet for their latest “scoop”
Vote:January 22nd, 2009 at 10:32 am
Well there’s a bit of this going around:
So the media only have time to infiltrate a limited number of white supremacist mailing lists, I guess.
Vote:January 22nd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Ratbiter, your remarks about Palmerston North are about as nutty as Kyle Chapmans. And if these guys tried to set up in Auckland the brothers would smash them over in real short order.
Vote:January 22nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Relevant pointer in Arts&Letters Daily (www.aldaily.com) today (ie, relevant to posting in this string 10.31pm Jan 21 and the following queries about that posting.)
“Anti-Israel sentiment is morphing into anti-Jewish sentiment …”
Vote:January 22nd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
I find it strange that these guys want to establish a whites-only homeland in Canterbury.
Have they honestly never heard of Fendalton?
Vote:January 23rd, 2009 at 10:09 am
^ heh, cheap accommodation eh… my next holiday.
Don’t worry – I’d con, steal, take more than my share, generally use and abuse in a vain attempt to show them my failings are down to me as an individual & that it’s stupid to assume that because I’m white that I’d be an up-standing citizen.
Vote:January 23rd, 2009 at 10:18 am
You sir, are noble.
Vote:January 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Sonny1 wrote above: “…If these guys tried to set up in Auckland the brothers would smash them over in real short order.”
Sonny, what if “these guys”, or at least the leader, was one of the brothers? You should read up on Kyle Chapman, for example.
You seem to be suggesting violence, and by implication racial violence, could stem far-right extremism. I think far-right extremists thrive on violence. Ridicule and imprisonment would have more chance of success. It was civil suits for damages that weakened the Ku Klux Klan drastically.
Vote: