Trevor lashes back at Metiria

January 29th, 2010 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

Trevor Mallard hits back at Metiria Turei after she highlighted how he had unfriended her on Facebook:

Last night Metiria Turei used my status to attack Labour. Of all things it was on our record on the minimum wage – probably one of the best areas of progress the last government – but the subject doesn’t matter.

As I said above I’m new to facebook.  I regard my page like my home. I chose who is there. While there are lots of discussions initiated by constituents I decide whether they run or not. But the idea of politicians using the comments section of my status to attack me just doesn’t seem right.

Good God. If you are an MP and you use your Facebook page to try and score political points, it is rather precious to then ban people because they disagree with you. Let alone the co-leader of your own remaining friendly party.

Metiria herself is an avid user of social media and on Twitter (for example) people often disagree with her on an issue. She normally responds constructively, and all is fine.

ps   I found Rod Donald and Sue Bradford good to work with (and Jeanette but only for a short time) – so its not a green allergy.

Ouch that makes it worse. He is saying it is personal with Metiria. And consider his earlier comment:

Not much real help from you guys esp since Russel started cuddling tories.

So Trevor is slagging off not one but both co-leaders of the Greens. Way to go.

I really wonder if Phil Goff is in control of his own caucus.

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36 Responses to “Trevor lashes back at Metiria”

  1. Doug (397) Says:

    No one in Labour would have control of Trevor he is a loose cannon, Phil will have his work cut out trying to rein him in.

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  2. Manolo (9,898) Says:

    Crosspostef from the previous entry on this subject.

    Trevor “the Thug” Mallard been needled at home (Red Alert).

    G says:
    January 29, 2010 at 8:11 am

    Trevor,
    Maybe I don’t understand FB etiquette, but it looks to me that Metiria was doing some posturing – maybe a bit tacky, but not offensive. I’d suggest that your comments were unnecessarily combative and that you overreacted.
    Having said that, I guess you can manage your FB page however you like.

    Peter Martin says:
    January 29, 2010 at 8:15 am

    So what do you use Facebook for Trevor? Catching up with old friends?

    erikter says:
    January 29, 2010 at 8:50 am

    Delightful exchange between two hard-working politicians. You can almost hear the Yeah Right coming.
    Keep it up Mr. Mallard, you’re a source of endless entertainment.

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  3. Pete George (17,596) Says:

    This is a learning curve, the internet can be a very powerful political tool, but it can also be very exposed and unforgiving – and with a long a long memory. Some political careers will be boosted, some will be basted and some will be burnt.

    I sort of get the impression from the way things are going, for Trevor the internet may be a final fizzle
    - a red roost he can rule, but he could get roasted.

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  4. Craig Ranapia (1,911) Says:

    Good God. If you are an MP and you use your Facebook page to try and score political points, it is rather precious to then ban people because they disagree with you. Let alone the co-leader of your own remaining friendly party.

    It’s also seriously dishonest to imply that Metiria was engaging in a personal attack, and after saying (and I quote) “I am pretty ruthless at dumping people mainly for using bad language, having links I don’t like or repeatedly putting game or quiz type things on my profile.” Especially when most readers aren’t able to review the evidence for themselves.

    Disagreeing with Mallard is exactly the same thing as a carpet f-bombing or being a spammer — yeah right.

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  5. Redbaiter (13,197) Says:

    At least Trevor Mallard engages. Any National Party or ACT boys out there doing it like Trevor?

    For all the downsides, there is the upside that Trevor Mallard is not afraid to show himself warts and all to the public.

    More politicians should do it. Why don’t they?

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  6. Jeff83 (758) Says:

    Tbh I think of Facebook like Trevour does, its your own page and you can choose who the heck you want to be friends with. Additionally Trevour is likely right, the minmium wage pretty much doubled under labour, being $8 when they started by memory.

    Metiria frankly started the attack and shows how the Greens are directionless much like Labour. Lost their routes and as many here say have gone pink.

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  7. Jeff83 (758) Says:

    I actually think Redbaiter has a point. And I am pretty sure that we both are inferring the same answer.

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  8. Redbaiter (13,197) Says:

    Go away Mr. Ranapia. Your posturing as an objective observer is hypocrisy personified. There have been occasions when you have cheered on exactly the kind of behaviour you criticise Mallard for. Matthew Hooten (for one example) when blogging, was as controlling as Mallard. Don’t recall you objecting to his rampant censorship.

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  9. Pete George (17,596) Says:

    At least Trevor Mallard engages.

    Yes he does to an extent, which is good, but seems to be a fairly controlling engagement.

    At least Trevor Mallard engages. Any National Party or ACT boys out there doing it like Trevor?

    David Garrett is another that has engaged. I think many National MPs have a reasonable excuse for being busy on other things. But there are newbies that could reach out a bit.

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  10. 3-coil (1,145) Says:

    Trev is, and always has been, a meathead.

    This is just business as usual for him. Long may he remain in a senior role in the Labour Party.

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  11. Craig Ranapia (1,911) Says:

    Redbaiter:

    I can understand why you’re such a fan of Mallard — you have so much in common. You both like macho posturing and striking an attitude, but play the victim the instant anyone gives you the smallest taste of your own medicine. And you both also casually tell lies while accusing others of your own sins.

    Still, for once, let’s not make this all about you and your ego.

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  12. Murray (8,832) Says:

    Facebook is a personal site not a free from forum. Tevor can have whoever the hell he wants on it. there is also no requirement for him to like other people and no requirement for them to like him.

    You guys even heard of freedoom of asscosiation?

    Its becoming more obvious that there is bugger all difference bwetween left and right in this country anymore. Both just want to be in total control of other peoples lives.

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  13. Barnsley Bill (855) Says:

    Murray, I think you are missing the point. Irrespective of whether FB is a free site it is not a good look for a senior member of Labour to be carrying on like a 12 year old girl on Bebo throwing a tanty because a “friend” dissed him.
    But.
    The real story here is the complete lack of discipline being exerted by Goff. They clearly have absolutely no respect for him whatsoever. And are all running their own little kingdoms within the party. I beleive this is because they know they are out for another term and the real work begins the day after the next lolly scramble as they all stand over goffs corpse and fight for the leaders spot.

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  14. Pete George (17,596) Says:

    The real story here is the complete lack of discipline being exerted by Goff. They clearly have absolutely no respect for him whatsoever. And are all running their own little kingdoms within the party.

    I think you’re right up to here. But I suspect they are doing it just because they can. I think Trevor’s intentions are good, it’s just the execution is a bit wobbly.

    There is very little that is personal on or about the internet.

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  15. Craig Ranapia (1,911) Says:

    Murray:

    Yes, I have heard of freedom of association.

    Have you heard of the idea of proportionate response, and not trying to justify losing your shit by well… making up even more shit? If Mallard insists on acting like a precious petal in urgent need of a course of harden the fuck up pills, it would be ungracious not to accept the invitation to point and laugh.

    I also reserve the right to point out the little irony of Labour’s Hard Man having a sook because that horrible bitch Metiria Turei was mean enough to argue with him on Facebook. Widdums.

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  16. Redbaiter (13,197) Says:

    ” And you both also casually tell lies while accusing others of your own sins. ”

    Bryan Spondre was the worst example of a bullying threatening banning partisan uncivilised knuckle dragging adjudicator that has (IMHO) ever been witnessed in the NZ blogosphere and you and Matthew Hooten were right behind him. Trevor Mallard is no worse and could in fact be far less controlling than Hooten/ Spondre. Here’s just one example-

    http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:3EmjDoZOnQkJ:www.policy.net.nz/blog/2008/10/13/the-neutron-bomb/+Craig+Ranapia+site:http://www.policy.net.nz/blog&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

    Not a word from you criticising Spondre. Judgement at Nuremberg.

    Trevor might have his faults but as far as censorship on his blog is concerned, he could learn a lot from the Spondre/ Hooten farce.

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  17. Seán (392) Says:

    Hi David – maybe you will be having second thoughts on wanting National to set up an equivalent to Red Alert/FrogBlog. As you have highlighted here, things can quite easily get out of control due to the instant and public nature of blogging.

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  18. XChequer (350) Says:

    I was originally going to post that Trevor continues to be the boorish twat that he normally is but seeing Red and Jeff’s post, I’ve got to agree. He does have the absolute right to do what he likes.

    The trouble is that we hold politicians to a higher standard – thats just a fact. Trevor often doesn’t meet that standard. In that context he is being trite and, not a little bit pathetic.

    XChequer
    http://thenzhomeoffice.blogspot.com/

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  19. James (1,338) Says:

    “At least Trevor Mallard engages. Any National Party or ACT boys out there doing it like Trevor?”

    Hmmmm…..Rodney Hide had his own blog and still engages from time to time.So does Roger Douglas….ditto David Garrett and John Boscowern.Mallards a Johnny come lately as far as online interaction is concerned.

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  20. Shunda barunda (2,729) Says:

    FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!! :)

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  21. Bevan (3,951) Says:

    Additionally Trevour is likely right, the minmium wage pretty much doubled under labour, being $8 when they started by memory.

    No theres an example of a stellar NZ education!

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  22. Tim Ellis (253) Says:

    Mr Ranapia, as you have pointed out many times, Redbaiter is a troll. Please don’t indulge him by paying him any attention.

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  23. Ryan Sproull (5,541) Says:

    Trevor’s new relationship status is “it’s complicated” with Metiria Turei.

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  24. Komata (783) Says:

    Mr. Mallard’s latest outburst brings to mind several of DL’s famous comments: ‘Nothing to see’, ‘situation normal’, ‘move along’, get over it’, and, to Trevor specifically, ‘widdums’

    (Thinks: Perhaps Trev should ‘phone home’ to New York to get sympathy and some more instructions?)

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  25. Guy Fawkes (702) Says:

    Just a reminder of what another term of Labour would have brought you in NZ.

    http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/the_way_we_live/article7007222.ece

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  26. lofty (1,255) Says:

    Apparently the muss who treats FB as his home has 3000 facebook friends, or is that 2999 now…popular fellow our bully boy.
    Rest at ease bully boy, you will never have to de-friend me, you did it long ago, with your bully boy antics, over a number of years.
    Be interested to see how many friends are de-friended this time next week!!!!
    Perhaps he should treat it as his mansion, for in his mansion are many rooms!

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  27. Kris K (3,570) Says:

    Lofty 2:56 pm,

    Perhaps he should treat it as his mansion, for in his mansion are many rooms!

    Very good, Lofty ;)

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  28. mjennings (42) Says:

    I wonder why the most sick, perverse, crimes seem to be committed by whites (noticeably South Island whites):

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10622979&pnum=2

    Of course Mr Farrar will have no interest in drawing attention to this most vomit inducing criminal case (linked) in a long time.

    Maori, or other non-white depravities warrant racial condemnation of course.

    But not white over-representation in crimes of sexual perversity and paedophilia.

    I challenge Mr Farrar to create a blog on the House of Horrors killer – surely more deserving of condemnation than even this sick animal abuser who fed kittens to his pitbull.

    I doubt if he will though – because in this case the perpetrator is white.

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  29. ISeeRed (236) Says:

    DF, this “mjennings” is spamming your blog with the off-topic post above (this is the second thread now he’s done this on). mjennings, start your own blog if exposing whitetrash perverts means so much to you.

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  30. tvb (3,304) Says:

    Mallard has an abusive personality especially towards women. He thinks playing the bully boy will get him political results. With Mallard the political debate quickly descends into threats and abuse and violence. He thinks he can dominate women by playing rough. Not a balanced person by any means. His type is well known.

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  31. Hurf Durf (2,860) Says:

    Duckboy just stumbles into controversy and fuckups. It’s wonderful that he’s using his only talent to his fullest.

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  32. Jack5 (3,021) Says:

    The Greens didn’t seem to mind when Mallard was flapping his wings hard at Don Brash, and pecking furiously into the then Opposition leader. So who cares when the deranged Labour duck attacks the Greens.

    Birds of a feather… lose it together.

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  33. Jack5 (3,021) Says:

    mjennings posted (or spammed) at 3.47:

    … I wonder why the most sick, perverse, crimes seem to be committed by whites (noticeably South Island whites)…

    Somerville comes from Taupo as the following quote from the Press in September reported. It is quite likely also that he is part-Maori, not that his ancestry has anything to do with his murders. I wouldn’t have inquired about this if you hadn’t made your strange race-based criticism of DPF’s blog editing.

    I’m puzzled, mjennings. Weren’t you the poster, who, a day or two ago reckoned Apiata didn’t deserve his VC but praised to the skies Charles Upham, the (pale skinned) Canterbury farmer who won two VCs? Is there a relationship between your views on Upham and on Somerville, whom you mistakenly took for a South Islander?

    From the Press Christchurch:

    …Jason Somerville moved to Christchurch from Taupo with Rebecca Somerville about three years ago….

    Link: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2855881/Horror-house-murder-accused-revealed

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  34. dad4justice (7,339) Says:

    mjennings – Somerville is pure filth from Taupo. When they came to ChCh they contacted d4j. Sad stuff.
    Rebecca is still a friend on my facebook account.

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  35. longbow (129) Says:

    omg this is shocking, trevor looks like a meanie bully!

    oh wait … he is.

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  36. Lee C (4,499) Says:

    Mallard out of control? Nothing new here http://monkeyswithtypewriter.blogspot.com/2009/08/trevor-man-who-would-be-king.html I posted this back in August –

    “Regardless of the opinion one has of the case, it was a stunning outburst by Mallard who suggested an element of racism in the Judge’s decision-making. All this without his Leader’s permission.
    Back in June I stated:

    “. . . . . .when I read of Mallard’s self-righteous and rather confident blogging, where he claims that he and some other MPs might call for a ‘no-confidence’ vote against the Speaker of the House. The penny dropped. Yes, he is not so much out of control, as one without any leadership, who does what he chooses. . . . . In fact, Trevor Mallard is very good at playing sleight-of-hand. He plays the clown, but is actually involved in cynical subterfuge. . . . . So what is behind Mallard’s latest outburst? Simple. It’s a public pissing contest. . . . with his own Leader, Phil Goff.

    Today’s news of his unrestrained outburst simply endorses that observation. Still, Goff doesn’t have the balls or authority to censure Mallard. In my opinion, Mallard’s sniping from the sidelines, is not driven by any moral outrage about the recent case, but because he seriously thinks that he should be Leader of the Labour Party, and is positioning himself as a point around which others can rally when the proper challenge is launched. Goff should cut Mallard off at the knees. But of course, he won’t. “

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