Is Carter bluffing
October 12th, 2010 at 2:00 pm by David FarrarTracy Watkins at the Dom Post reports:
Labour Party president Andrew Little revealed today that Mr Carter had threatened to disclose the private information of other Labour MPs if expelled from the party.
Mr Carter, the MP for Te Atatu, was expelled by Labour’s national council after a lengthy hearing last night.
During the meeting Mr Carter threatened to disclose private information about unnamed Labour MPs if he was expelled, Mr Little said.
”He just said he had a lot of information on a lot of individuals in the caucus and that he wouldn’t hesitate to disclose that if it suited him to do so,” Mr Little said.
So was Carter bluffing, or is he going to start planting stories with the media?
Mr Little revealed this morning the vote to expel Mr Carter was not unanimous but overwhelmingly in favour.
Hmmn, I wonder who voted against?
UPDATE: Talking of revelations, Phil Quinn, a former parliamentary staffer for Labour, has made his own about Chris Carter:
Chris Carter had a secret poll taken in ’96 to ascertain whether he could hold Te Atatu with Clark at the helm. I know this because I conducted the poll. The results were unequivocal: Carter would lose big time, which he went on to do. Chris was not keen on backing Mike Moore — a figure of derision on his side of the Party — but his clear preference was for Goff to run. The numbers, however, forced Mike Moore’s name into the race.
Based on conversations he and I had at the time, I have every reason to believe that Carter was supportive of a Goff ‘coup’ in 1996. Plenty of people know this, including Goff himself, and it is to their credit that they keep quiet. For my part, I am tired of the sanctimony of people — Carter being the latest– who try and misrepresent those events as treachery. Leaderships spills happen, some for good reason, some for ill. Some succeed, like Clark in 1993; some fail, like 1996. Such is politics. The tendency within NZ Labour to vilify the vanquished in these internal party disputes is not entirely non-Stalinist.
Carter shouldn’t be allowed to get away with such shameless hypocrisy. Surely?
Fascinating revelations. Does Helen know this?
Related posts:
- Carter now votes with the Greens
- Chris Carter off to fight corruption!!
- Goff’s Carter problem
- Carter names Mallard
October 12th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Times of crisis bring out the true nature of the man.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Can’t wait for the book. Will skip the Helen hagiography.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
There is much I don’t understand in politics. Why is Carter being hypocritical here? Are you a hypocrite for losing confidence in a man over 14 year period and changing your vote? I can think of one or two circumstances that have changed since 1996. We now know Goff is an ineffective leader, for instance, and that he has reverse his position on any number of issues in the last two years. Are you a hypocrite for changing your support?
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
No, he shouldn’t, but it may not stop him from trying. Carter may see (and hear) some sense now he knows he has been de-partied, but his actions and reactions over the past three months suggest he isn’t there yet.
The best way to stop him getting away with it is to pre-empt his releases, or at least be ready to react with a plausible counterview, much as Phil has done here. Some in Labour and Labour as a whole would probably take a few hits but it could also be very beneficial having an open purge of the past, they need to do something to show they are prepared to be a party of the future rather than a horde of historical hystericals.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Isn’t this actually blackmail of the legally actionable kind? Threatening to reval private information if you don’t get what you want?
And heres something for Carter to think about. I don’t care what you know. I have no iterest in any dirt you throw about other than to add to my contempt for you personally.
NZ politics is in a very poor state because of just this sort of theng where those with no answeres simply try to tear others down. I’m sure you’ll get you extended five minutes of fame and hurt labour some more, but I wont be playing.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Chris who?
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Observe once again the depravity of the left. A never ending parade of moral weakness, deceit, betrayal and obsession with power
….and still the proponents of this sick stinking destructive religion advocate its universal acceptance.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Phew, I just got in my new stock of popcorn…just in time.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Ohhh – I’m looking forward to the bum fight.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Hmm, now who was it who stole a dead child’s identity for his own ends ? oh that’s right a raving reich winger.
Vote:Wonder how much jail time he will get for perjury ?
October 12th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Carter can see the end of his free ride approaching, and he want’s to stay on the gravy train. I think in his own mind he really thought he could lead Labour to victory. He could have learnt a thing or two from Len limit-the-truth… the best apology involves self-flagellation.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Hori, you fucking troll. Garrett was dealt with by the Courts already and has suffered an extraordinary amount of public humiliation and vilification. He had the good sense to see he was damaging his party’s brand so did the correct thing and departed.
Unlike your fucking troughing scumbag mate Carter.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Is that weakssed shit the best you can do hori? Seriously thats just taking lame to a new depth.
DPF complaint of comparing conservatives to nazis with what the left think is a “clever” use of reich. You must have missed the socialist in national socialist hori.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
“stole a dead baby’s identity”
You see how all these mindless leftist goons sing from the same song book? How the fuck can a dead baby have an identity you moron? How can anyone “steal” it?? Garret used a dead child’s name to obtain a false passport. Anything that seeks to portray it any other way is just cowardly yellow left wing lies and typical of the propaganda technique used by liars and cowards who have no rational argument.
The left have absolutely no honour or even any conception of it.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Hori – In order for one to commit theft they must ‘take’ or ‘use ‘property’. So far the Courts have not recognised a dead person as property especially not identity.
What he amounted to, as alluded to by Redbaiter, is obtaining by deception.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
bhudson
The famous author who’s book ended up with half the Labour party being sentenced to death for treason.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
hori .. Garrett fell on his sword and went quiety into the night. How can you compare the reaction of Garrett with Carter??
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Hori: Hmm, now who was it who stole a dead child’s identity for his own ends ? oh that’s right a raving reich winger.
Wonder how much jail time he will get for perjury ?
No right winger did that Hori…it was young lefty named David Garrett who was a member of Social Unity and an active supporter of Labour…
Feeling a bit of a twat now bro….?
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
“Feeling a bit of a twat now bro….?”
Garret went along with it too. He’s no paragon of fucking intelligence. Apologising like a fucking cry baby to a totally false left wing beat up charge.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
The threat to reveal dirty secrets about the Labour Party is just extraordinary. And I assume there are dirty secrets to tell. I would like Cater to tell us why the Labour Party is so very careful how they handle Phillip Field. We look forward to his spiteful book with much interest.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
The guy is a tit. He should take a leaf out of the Richard Worth book and just disappear.
Vote:Seriously though, has anyone seen Richard Worth?
October 12th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
On the one hand, what kind of clown would try to chuck a hissy fit and bring down what he’s spent the last 20 years building, just because it turns out they don’t want him any more. That would just prove that you were in it for the power, not based on principles.
On the other hand, I’d love all that dirt to be aired. I’m sick of the fact that the media and the parties cover up all this stuff, not in the public interest you know. Gives me the shits. And I’m always in favour of a bit of other people’s dirt.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
” That would just prove that you were in it for the power, not based on principles.” – don’t forget the pay and perks. Where else can Carter get employment on the terms he had?
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Anyone know where I can get more wood for this fire?
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Labour Party president Andrew Little revealed today that Mr Carter had threatened to disclose the private information of other Labour MPs if expelled from the party.
Why has Carter not been charged with blackmail?
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
we of the RIGHT must keep encouraging Mr Carter in his endevours. The more he reveals and the longer the story runs the longer it will be before the dreaded Socialists get to oocupy the Treasury benches.
Last Saturday was a wake up call for us with Auckland going LEFT. The enemy have taken over the biggest city and the biggest slice of the population north of Taupo.
JK BE have to be careful.. Lenny ( everything goes on the Council credit card) Brown and his fellow LEFTIE travellers are already licking their chops at the rates rises they are about to unleash on those of us in the unfavoured suburbs.
Stand by for the biggest transfer of costs in the countries history when Lenny (yes all on the Council credit card) Brown gets his revenge on the RICH PRICKS
You have been warned.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
MT_Tinman (1,048) Says:
Why has Carter not been charged with blackmail?
Possibly money has to be involved to be a criminal offence? This still qualifies as emotional blackmail, though.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
lastmanstanding: you’re missing the grand plan. Auckland Council isn’t that much of a prize, and when Labour put up rates and make a general mess, people will definitely associate that with the left. In Australia, for a long time there was a tradition of Labour in state govt, Libs in federal. Now that Labour are in federal, the states are starting to move towards Lib. I’m pretty sure National would rather hold the national govt than Auckland….
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Chris Carter has done what a HUGE amount of people have said for years and that is that Goff can’t win an election. I think he could BUT it would take an extraordinary event (another earthquake??)
Vote:Now, is questioning a leaders/managers ability a sackable offence?.
I think that Andrew Little should be asked in his role as a Union Leader that question. If the answer is yes then what the fuck is the EMPU about??
October 12th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
“The famous author who’s book ended up with half the Labour party being sentenced to death for treason.”
Do you mean that mean spirited and spiteful chap Chris Carter who was so much of a lying, narcissistic, troughing parasite on humanity that he was even expelled from the Lying Abject Beggared Organisation of Utter Rogues party?
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
I hope Carter is man enough to fulfill his little games. I don’t think so as I think he hasn’t any guts or integrity.
Vote:But I would love for him to show us wher e all the bodies ar e buried. he could st ar t with his involvement with that jevan person for starters.
I’m sure the CYPS people would love to know the truth of those encounters he recounted in Investigate If I remember correctly he was under their care or something, whilst swanning around with labour cabinet members and drinking at private labour party functions?
October 12th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
lastman “…The more he reveals and the longer the story runs the longer it will be before the dreaded Socialists get to oocupy the Treasury benches…”
Are you trying to allege the current bunch of traitors occupying the Treasury Benches are not just as much a bunch of big government, statist, borrow/tax & spend socialists as the last lot?
I can’t conceive of any government of the right:
* failing to wind back the middle-class welfare of Welfare for Families
* introducing a wealth redistribution scam like the ETS
* handing off a large part of our culture and heritage to a radical minority (via the Foreshore & Seabed)
* ignoring 88% of the population in a referendum
* caving to a few scruffy lefties over mining
* maligning as “too radical” any proposal that might have some chance of starting to move New Zealand out of the debt-ridden, welfare-induced stupor in which it finds itself?
I mean seriously. Anybody who thinks the government of John The Appeaser Key is “right” has no idea what the terms “liberty” and “freedom” mean.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Damn well said Offshore. Only in a country overflowing with far left morons could John Key and his troops be considered even the slightest bit “right wing”. Y’know, there’s even some people come on here (from some other time and space I can only presume) and refer to them as “Tories”.
FFS…!!!
NZ..
Land of The Dumb White Commie.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
This will be good for Andrew Little and bad for Phil Goff if Carter spills the beans on his old Labour party colleagues.. Putting Little a step closer to Labour Party leader.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
I wouldn’t put anything past Carter. Gay men can be very manipulative and controlling:
Vote:
October 12th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
The F.B.I. have observed the vindictivness of male homosexuals reacting to rejection.
Vote:The gratuitous violence evinced in murders involving them is way above what is normally involved
in spousal murders.
Not that there is anything wrong with being a male homosexual.
October 12th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
I think that the Labour Party is terrible for picking on Chris Carter because he’s gay
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
wat, bereal & others … I know your comments are tongue-in-cheek (sorry for the disturbing mental image in a thread about a gay “man”), but really you’re perpetuating the story that Carter’s problems result from everyone picking on him because he’s gay.
Chris Carter’s problems have nothing to do with him being a carpet-muncher, and everything to do with him being a troughing scumbag with a case of terminal entitle-itis and an overblown victim mentality. Oh, and without the good sense that God gave a sack full of hammers.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Carpet-munchers are girls that teenage boy’s dream about.. but in reality the girls don’t like them.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Offshore_Kiwi
Vote:You are right to a degree. Of course he is a troughing scumbag. That is obvious to all. Tolerated by labour
due to the clout of “rainbow labour” Is that sick or what ?
Thanks for the description, carpet muncher.
Its a good one.
Not that there is anything wrong with being a carpet muncher.
October 12th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Carter is not a carpet muncher.. but he is a.. Tell Tale Tit.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Whats the difference between some of our Liarbore MP’s and a microwave. The microwave won’t brown the meat.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Chris Carter for new Breakfast presenter. He can regale everyone with his Tales From the Crypt-, sorry, Labour Party.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Carter is not Bluffing.. Barry Soper has seen the list, and so have most of the Press Gallery.. oh dear it’s looking better and better for Little.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Who cares? He’s a sad, bitter, irrelevant has-been. If he delivers dirt to embarrass some former “friends” who once trusted him, the media should treat it with contmpt.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
After watching the antics of Carter during the last few months, I’m convinced that he is indeed ‘certifable’. Which brings me to a serious question: What extant is there in law to remove an elected member of parliament on the grounds of insanity? After all, why should the taxpayer be tied to supporting a lunatic (other than in an asylum), when he is clearly dysfunctional as an MP?
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Hey Chris lets get started. What really happened to Professor Davis in LA?
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
on a more serious level.
Vote:Where are all the gays, to use their own description, defending Chris on the basis of gay bashing ?
Thats what he called it herself. cums right down 2 it, they dissapear into the wind.
C’mon gays, if you represent, say 10 % of the populace, how cum not one of you has raised their head
in defence of the first openly shirtlifting M.P.
He stuck out his knob for you.
Why are you missing in action to back him up ? sorry bout the pun.
is’nt it more real that gays actually represent less than 2 % of the population
and those 2% are gutless
October 12th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
bereal, they are all pissed off that the free travel is about to come to an abrupt end
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
… ‘question mark’… …
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Bereal
You really seem to have an obsession with homosexuality and a level of contempt. These are often signs of being a self-hating homosexual.
Not that there is anything wrong with being a self-hating homosexual……… well not unless you are John Wanye Gacy
What PaulL said at 5:18 pretty much sums it up…….. Chris is a dick…….. but I want the dirt
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
When oh, fucking when, will the petulant poof just fuck off and surrender his AirpointsDollars to those of us who paid for them? For the love of fucking God, it is not a big ask, just fuck off altogether.
ps, if the fuckwit happens to read this, I kindly suggest that he never pushes me out of his way in an airport again I will punch him into next century. I don’t take kindly to aging policitians on their way out, pushing me around in their haste to appear special in front of the cameras, I should have thumped the prick when I had the chance.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
There are many of us who want to see the dirt exposed for all and sundry. I would imagine that any dirt would be selective and along the faction lines of the last labour government. I do not have the insight and information of those who work within the corridors of power and many who do, may well be wondering what will happen if this threatened flame war goes off.
Is there some sort of implied mutual assured destruction pact going on within the factions? I won’t shit on you if you won’t shit on me sort of thing? If so, and this threat goes nuclear, the next few months will be interesting to say the least.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
“What PaulL said at 5:18 pretty much sums it up…….. Chris is a dick…….. but I want the dirt”
Well, his expenses are a good place to start, you know, those massages in Thailand charged back to you and I. Not sure if they were of the “happy ending” variety, or if there were any “disputes” over the quality of said massage (I shall not raise any questions about the underlying quality of the material the “masseuse” had to work with – that would be cruel) but they were paid for by us and the expense was laid bare for all to see. So to speak.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Hey Rich Prick, giving him a thump would be great. Better to bend him over and shaft him up the arse cause that is what he and his school principle bum chum have been doing to the NZ taxpayer for many years.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Muzza, one way or another we will be paying those two moochers for the rest of their lives. Neither seems to be keen to get off the public’s tit. Carter will have his pension and his wife no doubt tenure at a public institution somewhere (or a Labour Party/Union tithe funded salary as the Chair of whatever that installed his husband, housed in a Labour owned building we pay the rent on to the Labour Party). Don’t ya just love paying tax?
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
Short shriveled etc etc @ 10.10
I just watched the Klitsko fight on TV and checked this blog before bed.
At least one poofter stood up 4 chris.
Good on you.
Not that i think he would have thanked you much.
Obsession with homos … i thought this whole thread was about a self declared homo.
Anyway, marks for trying sweetie . Maybe 2/10
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
bereal, you’re way off the deep end. I think your comments were inappropriate. I’ll say it to go on record as disagreeing, rather than being part of the silent majority who thought they couldn’t be bothered complaining.
Vote:October 12th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Bereal- this is someone else’s blog you know. We should all remember that right?
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 3:48 am
Why does this have anything to do with what Chris does in his bedroom? The only person who seems to want to make this an issue is Chris, and each time you lot go on here and start abusing him for it you’re making Chris sound like he is justified for saying so.
Why don’t we concentrate on the fact that he is a bludging trougher of the worst order and stop this quite appalling homophobia?
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 6:13 am
What Clint said; Carter’s sexuality is irrelevant to his competence as an MP. However his behaviour over an extended period suggests that he fails the competency test by a wide margin.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 7:15 am
Muzza M
“Hey Chris lets get started. What really happened to Professor Davis in LA?”
Please, everyone knows the answer to this one, just ask anyone from the DPS who were sent to bring him home. Or it might just be a Careless Whisper
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 7:48 am
Carter is certainly behaving like a petulant old queen. Many many gays would be familiar with Cater’s behaviour.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Clarks lap poodle has gone rabid. How long is his leash Helen?
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 8:28 am
I’d be surprised if Clark had much if any involvement in or approved of this extended Carter hissy fit.
“If this nastiness from the Labour Party continues and this character assassination, why would I want to stay?”
Vote:- says Carter as he again tries to assassinate his ex-party leader.
October 13th, 2010 at 8:55 am
She wound him up and set him off.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Carter is like the mate that needed somewhere to crash for a while, it doesn’t matter how may hints you drop he just will not F**k off.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 9:05 am
“stop this quite appalling homophobia?”
Man I dislike that PC directive. Soviet style speech and mind control, made even more offensive by the fact that there is no such medical condition as homophobia. It is a made up word. Why don’t you stop pretending to be a right winger Clint and admit that you’re just another brainwashed social liberal with political views only slightly different to most of the Labour party?
If anyone made anything of Carter being homosexual its Carter himself. I consider it fair enough to refer to it as long as its done within boundaries that would not embarrass the blog host.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Unlike some I do not care what Dr Daivs did in LA, what I am interested in is who covered it up and how close that person was/is to Helen Klark.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Red, not sure the blog host wouldn’t be embarrassed by some of the comments on this thread. Like I said above, Carter is not the most reviled character in New Zealand because he’s a poof, it’s because he’s a
“…troughing scumbag with a case of terminal entitle-itis and an overblown victim mentality…”
which is really just another way of saying he’s a politician. In his case, he’s probably an archetypal charicature of a politician.
The word “homophobia” is contrived, PC nonsense. “Phobia” means “fear” and I don’t think anyone here would admit to being fearful of this princess or his tantrums. I think because he is stereotypical (I mean, Elton John on a bad day), it makes it easier to target his sexual preference than the fact he is a troughing scumbag with a case of terminal entitle-itis and an overblown victim mentality.
Pretty typical of the kiwi mentality, really. We complain when others play the man and not the ball, but it doesn’t apply to us. Don’t worry about the fact he’s had his hand in every kiwi’s pocket for the past 20 years, worry more about where another part of his anatomy goes on a far less regular basis.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 10:25 am
And the latest Stuff article on ‘whatshisname”:
“Mr Carter laced with threats to reveal embarrassing skeletons. At one point he told the council: “I can be friend or foe. If it’s foe you want, its war.” ”
War? Chris Carter? Really? To paraphrase that 60′s song “War”…
Chris
Vote:Wo, wo, wo, wo
What is he good for…
October 13th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Hes got some real loyalty going on there alright.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 11:20 am
“Carter’s sexuality is irrelevant to his competence as an MP”
That is a matter of opinion. If his sexual preference is linked to victimology it does affect his competence or his incompetence as an MP.
This is no different than race. I am happy to see a proportionate number of Maori in Parliament provided the majority of them do not see themselves as victims.
I had dealings with Carter years ago. His whole political philosophy his based on victimology pertaining to homosexuals, woman and ethnic minorities. Many of these left wing homosexuals have an agenda. It has been posted on this blog a number of times. According to some those who are concerned about this agenda are homophobes.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Well said Chuck. Those who say a person’s sexuality has no bearing on how they do their job are blowing smoke. In today’s environment, this applies even more so on the political sphere. As you have pointed out, (although it is not always so), if a person is homosexual it most often generates a certain political mindset and therefore a pre-occupation with associated legislation.
If there is no stigma attached to anybody’s sexuality then that is every reason for those standing for office to be up front about it and ALLOW VOTERS TO CHOOSE FOR THEMSELVES.
That the fake term “homophobia” is so often used in our media and public institutions is a disgrace and another warning as to how deeply embedded socialist fascist concepts are in our society.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Here’s hoping Carter can dish up some juicy gossip before Christmas to take our minds off the dreary performance of his dead in the water career. My mind spins in anticipation of the lurid inside dirt that Chris is promising to reveal, who did what with who,who was on top, and of course how they all paid for it.
Vote:Unlike Chris I have a good memory for names, like Cunliffe and Jones, his only friends in the Labour camp.We could indulge ourselves in outing his co conspirators before he does although they will of course deny any involvement in any coup.Jonesy is hoping to get the Manurewa seat and Cunliffe has his eye on the top job.
Will Labour self destruct like Act, we await with baited breath.
October 13th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
This chap needs to reinvent himself and get out of our faces.
He is acting like a spoilt 4 year old who didn’t get any lollies at the lolly scramble.
The party is over, he has had a lovely time the last 10 years at the expense of the taxpayer.
Now he has to grow up and go and get a real job and become a real person like the rest of us who work for a living and generate income to pay for politicans wages.
I am sick of the bull**** from both Labour and National, lets grow up and start acting like adults.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Carter’s submission was leaked to The Dominion Post:
So why can’t we download that submission? Leaks from within ACT are downloadable within seconds, so where is this submission?
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Big Bruv:
“Unlike some I do not care what Dr Daivs did in LA, what I am interested in is who covered it up and how close that person was/is to Helen Klark.”
Very close, very close indeed.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
“Very close, very close indeed.”
Vote:Someone in New York?
October 13th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
I has been said many many times the pass Liarbore government was the most gay friendly government ever to hold office in this country. If being gay has no bearing on the way one conducts government and makes laws they why fucking state the government is gay friendly. I thought government was for all so one would have to assume gays got a better deal under the last corrupt administration. So as far as I’m concerned being gay is an issue and those trying to pretend otherwise are full of it.
Vote:October 13th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
For the record.
Vote:I call them how i see them.
Chris Carter played the gay card to garner sympathy. Pathetic.
That leaves him open to any attack on that ground IMO
Now i’m compared to John Wayne Gacy and reminded not to embarass the web host.
Thanks for that Redbaiter.
Whats the demerrit score mate ?
i’ve got a clean slate.
Harden up.
October 13th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Redbaiter – you have also fallen into Chris Carters hands. He has based his career on his victim mentality and instead of calling him up on it, you and others go on and prove that there was indeed some fact behind his whole “it’s because I’m gay that you make fun of me” act.
I asked for people to look at his troughing and his behaviour and you tell me that I am not right wing enough because I do?
Get off the grass mate. I agree with yours and Chucks comments above, but if you re-read the comments here, most have wasted their time with frivolous remarks about where he sticks his dick – and not that he does not care about how he spends our taxpayers money.
Vote:October 14th, 2010 at 12:05 am
Clint- your use of the word “homophobia” signifies that you buy into a social construct that no real right winger would be part of. Its a fake word, its a fake concept and anyone who uses it is not really up to speed on the political strategies of the left. Hint- its not really about homosexuality its about conforming (like lemmings) to the edicts of the self appointed socialist fascist elite. We have to push back against this kind of manipulative crap.
Vote:October 14th, 2010 at 7:16 am
FFS, you’re eventually going to rule everyone out from being a “real right winger” due to some nit picking or other. Like Carter you will find it hard to start a revolution when you piss on everyone.
You’ve become a real wrong whinger. As Clint said, you’ve succumbed to the same sort of victim mentality that Carter has. Poor you, the whole world is against you. You’re obsessed with attention seeking, like your mate Carter, and your fake approach makes as little sense.
If you want to get support for some of your ideas you need to get people on side, not push them all to the other side.
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