Pushing the boundaries of truth

November 2nd, 2010 at 9:30 am by David Farrar

I blogged yesterday about the claim to remember McDonalds opening in Porirua, which happened when Kris was one year old. Since then, Whale has produced a series of photos showing other events Kris remembers being at. This is my favourite.

A reader has sent me a copy that Labour has distributed around the electorate. It is below.

Fa’Afoi Brochure

Just hold your screen on its side to read it. Anyway the key quote is “I had a great start because my family settled in Mana”.

Now this is pushing the truth to breaking point. Yes Kris has cousins and uncles and aunts in Mana whom he visited. But he was born and raised in Christchurch. 99% of people reading his brochure would take his statement to imply he grew up in Mana.

I don’t personally think it is a huge issue that Kris was not raised in Mana. Neither was Winnie Laban off memory. But this is the second time that Labour and Kris has pushed the boundaries of the truth to create a false impression – they obviously think it is vital.

One could also quibble over his slogan to vote Faafoi to vote for more jobs for Mana. Never known a backbench Opposition MP to be able to create jobs – but that at least is a subjective view that can be debated.

It would be interesting if someone complained to the Advertising Standards Authority about the brochure, as that would give a ruling on whether or not the brochure stretches the truth so far as to be misleading.

I had an uncle and aunt in Perth whom I visited occasionally. I would never claim “I had a great start because my family settled in Perth”.

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33 Responses to “Pushing the boundaries of truth”

  1. starboard (2,447) Says:

    ..hes obviously been to the liarbor school of telling bullshit…and past with flying colours by the looks of things..

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  2. Guy Fawkes (702) Says:

    I go to to Mana to see my Mother in Law.

    She lives in Preston, Lancashire. But she looks better from Mana.

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  3. CraigM (676) Says:

    What chance one of our fine MSM employees actually asking him the questions?

    The thing that gets me angry about this kind of “white lie” is that it is aimed soley at fooling the people you are saying you want to represent. How can you make fools of your constituents and then purport to represent them without feeling like the lying areshole your clearly are? What a fucked up way to earn your daily bread.

    Just because the foolish are easily….fooled, does that mean they deserve to be treated with this kind of contempt?

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  4. the bird is the word (69) Says:

    Unbelievable.

    Have any polls been undertaken in Mana yet?

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  5. lastmanstanding (1,038) Says:

    This is yet another example where the Pollies have a different set of rules to us peasants.

    Fact. If I was to advertise a known lie about myself in my business I would be prosecuted to the full extent of the law under the Commerce Act.

    Its called misleading advertising and is taken very very seriously by the Regulator who has significant powers to fiine and punish.

    DPF You are wrong wrong wrong. This is a HUGE ISSUE. This person who is putting them self up for election to govern has LIED in order to influence the voters. Any person who seekd to govern and is incapable of telling the truth lacke the ethical and moral ability to govern..

    Yes Yes I know we all laugh about them lying and I do to but its time we stopped.

    The reason we get the low lives in the House is because we dont stand up and demand better standards from them

    We meekly allow them like this bozo to lie thru their teeth and just shrug bit off.

    AND them we moan about the God awful low standard of governance we have to suffer under.

    Until and unless we stand up and this case demand this LIAR be barred from governing we will continue to get the LIARS the CHEATS and the RATBAGS we have now.

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  6. david (2,305) Says:

    C’mon guys, it is just poetic licence. Consider “Axe the Tax”, National’s 20% GST, “New GST is 15%”, A train set for $200million, $1mill EB campaign etc etc

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  7. nickb (2,182) Says:

    As long as he promises the Labour voters of Mana some kind of handout or promise of our tax dollars, he will no doubt be a shoo-in

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  8. david (2,305) Says:

    Starboard, as Phil’s chief press man he was in the cultural centre of creating Labour’s bullshit.

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  9. kaya (1,360) Says:

    He’s a politician, what’s new? The sad thing is that no one gets surprised or outraged about this sort of thing anymore, it’s come to be expected.

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  10. burt (5,936) Says:

    He mentioned Mac-D’s because in typical Labour style maccers lunch vouchers will be handed out to anyone who agrees to vote for Labour.

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  11. George Patton (303) Says:

    This guy is a bullshit artist. A liar who will say anything to get into a nice cushy job in Parliament. Fuck him. Where are the media on this?

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  12. cabbage (454) Says:

    Well. After Q&A on Sunday morning, anyone that votes Faafoi is a pillock. Even my fiancee who comes from a staunch Labour family (yeah, i’m working on turning her..) Turned around and said to me: “Well. Based on that, I’m voting for Hekia Parata. But don’t tell mum, ok?”

    Seriously, Hekia was the only one that showed any passion and conviction for the people of Mana. Faafoi stumbled when asked why his parents should still be living in a 3 bedroom state home, lied about macdonalds and exuded the smug arrogance that the left are so good at displaying.

    This was plainly obvious to even an indoctrinated Labour voter. As for Jan Logie? pfft. What a fucken airhead.

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  13. Hagues (711) Says:

    Surely there must be some law that gets a candidate struck off for a blantant lie???

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  14. scrubone (2,321) Says:

    No lie would be as bad as the truth Labour told when pushing through the EFA – that they were trying to stop funding to the country’s opposition party.

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  15. Andrew (31) Says:

    I wish Labour would stop photoshopping candidate photos. Well this actually applies to anyone that photoshops photos on political billboards. It creates a false impression and should be banned.

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  16. Michaels (1,304) Says:

    # Hagues (592) Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Surely there must be some law that gets a candidate struck off for a blantant lie???

    Wouldn’t leave to many Labour MP’s then would it?

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  17. Right of way is Way of Right (1,044) Says:

    You can do or say anything, because when it comes down to it, there are a great many people in Mana who will vote for Faafoi simply because he is the Labour candidate, and he has a brown face!

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  18. Hagues (711) Says:

    And the problem being….?

    Greens would be gone too!

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  19. MikeNZ (3,234) Says:

    It’s simple he’s a liar.
    What’s worse is his boss Phil Goff who wants to be Prime Minister is ok with that?

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  20. burt (5,936) Says:

    Legislation is being introduced into the house this afternoon to officially change the date that the first MAC-D’s opened in Porirua. Retrospectively Kris will be validated as is the tradition when Labour people can’t follow the rules or stop themselves from being self serving liars.

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  21. burt (5,936) Says:

    Somebody needs to photoshop a picture of a 3 month old baby into the historic pictures of the Porirua MAC-D’s opening. Perhaps a though bubble saying something like “Wow, it’s a red building so it must be the work of the glorious Labour party mum and dad have told me I will worship for the rest of my life”.

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  22. Maggie (674) Says:

    Key seems comfortable with his own lies and comfortable when one of his list MPs is shown to have lied about his qualifications.

    This blog should be re-named “The Double Standard”.

    [DPF: Aaron has corrected the online CV. Has Kris retracted the brochure? It's the putting right that counts]

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  23. Jeremy Harris (323) Says:

    I’m looking forward to this race, with the split of the left vote between the Greens, Labour and Matt McCarten’s Communist Cult, is it possible that Hekia Parata could win..?

    Is there any polling..?

    I understand there is a very wealthy suburb in the Mana electorate, do they vote ACT in any numbers..?

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  24. Bevan (3,951) Says:

    This blog should be re-named “The Double Standard”

    Moniker’s already taken sorry: www thestandard org nz

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  25. GLS (5) Says:

    They are polling, I got rung on Sunday – “Are you of Maori or PI descent?”

    “No – New Zealander”

    “Oh okay we don’t need to speak to you….” – yeah, whatever

    Whitby & Aotea are included in the electorate, I would imagine there is a fair bit of cash (or just a lot of debt…) available judging by the houses/cars in these areas.

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  26. Roflcopter (307) Says:

    Mana goes all the way to Raumati, and anything between the Police College to Raumati is, for all intents and purposes, wealthy (Aotea, Papakowhai, Paremata, Whitby, Mana, Plimmerton, Camborne, Pukera Bay, Paekakariki, Raumati).

    South of the Police College, the reasonably wealthy areas would be parts of Titahi Bay, parts of Linden and other pockets.

    I think Hekia has a reasonable shot, but it all comes down to mobilisation. Labour will be going balls-out getting people to the voting stations, something National does not do well.

    Expect a reasonable carve of the red vote by McCarten, but Fa’afoi should get home purely on the back of turn-out.

    Anything less than the same % vote margin between Labour and National from the 2008 election can be considered a total lack of confidence in Labour.

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  27. grumpyoldhori (2,345) Says:

    Roflcopter Hekia has no bloody chance, she is a Nat hori who seems to believe there should be two standards for ownership for the foreshore.
    The whiter shade of pale get fee simple title, the well tanned get what they got in the past.
    But it seems that Nat hories are happy with that.
    Hmm, the word uncle comes to mind with Nat hori MPs.

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  28. Bevan (3,951) Says:


    Hmm, the word uncle comes to mind with Nat hori MPs.

    So, how did Maori fare last time with Labour?

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  29. robcarr (132) Says:

    See I assumed from the word settled that he meant “settled” as in first immigrated to from Tokelau. I can see how it could be read differently though.

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  30. grumpyoldhori (2,345) Says:

    Bevan the Labour hori MPs who were not happy with Labour pulled out of it.
    But that would never happen with those token Nat hori MPs, yes boss no boss is as far as they will go.
    Which is why uncles sum them up.

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  31. Bevan (3,951) Says:

    Which is why uncles sum them up.

    No working with the white devil eh grumpy? Maybe you are showing your own bigotry.

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  32. thedavincimode (4,707) Says:

    Another dodgy little prick lines up at the trough.

    Vote for Me – I’m brown.

    The end.

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  33. Maggie (674) Says:

    I see John Key claimed his candidate lived in the electorate. No doubt he believed it was the case and simply didn’t bother to check, a habit of his.

    Parata confirms that she doesn’t.

    She put him right and its the putting right that counts. Or maybe its not making the gaffe in the first place?

    Key is becoming an embarrassment.

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