Tariana on Hone

February 9th, 2011 at 11:30 am by David Farrar

A lengthy video interview at 3 News by Patrick Gower with talking about Hone Harawria. A key line:

“He has no respect for our authority. He has no respect for this environment. He doesn’t have any respect for the coalition agreement that we all signed up to and that we all agreed to. And he has no respect for the party itself,”

If Hone wants to survive in the party, then he is going to have to convince his colleagues that he is capable of respecting them, and not just doing what is best for Hone.

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47 Responses to “Tariana on Hone”

  1. ciaron (1,431 comments) says:

    I thought Johne said him and Aunty T waz sweet???

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  2. Komata (1,191 comments) says:

    Re: ‘not just doing what is best for Hone’

    But it ISN’T about ‘.. what is best for Hone’ , it’s about what is best for the ‘bros, the cussies, the whanau, the tribe (and, most importantly, mummy. Effectively, Hone’s attitude is one of ‘stuff the rest, I’ll always look after my own, and if I can stick it to the other tribes and especially Pakeha, so much the better’

    And the all the MSM go ‘ooh’, and ‘aaah’ and ‘aren’t you just sooo clever Hone’ and absolutely love telling us all about this marvellous-one’s wonderful activites . . .

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  3. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    I heard a commentator on Radio live yesterday describe the Harawira family as “without constant conflict they are nothing” – and thats probably as true as one could get.

    What a laughable state it was on sunday.

    Mother Harawira leads the PM onto the marae (shes a convicted violent offender and a nasty ole cow)
    Cousin (whatever his name is) – also a convicted offender – rails at the PM thru a loudhailer (I thought the loudhailer was a pakeha invention – shouldnt he have used some sort of seashell)
    And Hone manages to really piss of Sharples (although thats not really a bad thing)

    And we call it our national day….

    More like a platform for the harawiras to act pig ignorant

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  4. m@tt (629 comments) says:

    Perhaps Tariana should consider that one or more of the items she lists may not be worthy of respect. Not just Hone’s respect but the people she claims to represent.

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  5. Graeme Edgeler (3,289 comments) says:

    They’re in a coalition?

    Um … why weren’t we told?

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  6. Michaels (1,318 comments) says:

    Good point GE.

    However I tend to agree.
    Not everyone in each party is going to agree with each other, they all have a personal agenda and from time to time, maybe even mostly, it gets shut down. They may no doubt get pissed about about but they clear the air behind closed doors.
    What Hone has done is just bad and shows he is nothing more than an activist.
    Even look at his dress on Waitangi, surely being an MP would mean a bit of respect and surely that would start by wearing a suit or close to at least.

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  7. peterwn (3,271 comments) says:

    I once viewed Tariana as a lobbyist who operated at the expense of Ministerial Services. I consider she has come a long way since and I very much respect her.

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  8. Michaels (1,318 comments) says:

    And I see Titiwhai is at it again.
    She was saying this morning that the big bad Maori party will kick out her little angel.

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  9. Jack McDonald (162 comments) says:

    I’m sorry, but Hone does not do what is best for Hone, Hone does what’s best for his people who are being attacked by an anti-worker, anti-beneficiary and anti-environmental Government. He has been fighting all his life for the Maori people.

    Now I agree that he and and the others in the MP caucus have different views on how to fight for their people, but that does not mean he is doing what’s best for himself DPF. He is simply reflecting the views of thousands of Maori and social justice advocates across the country

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  10. reversespin (69 comments) says:

    I think in due course, Hone will discover just how lonely and boring being an independent MP is.

    The media attention will fade away, the caucus and party support structures will fall away and he will find himself eating his lunch by himself in his broom-closet office in the beehive…………………so sad.

    Expect to see him spending the bulk of his time up his electorate, agitating. Deep down, I think that is where he feels he belongs.

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  11. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    Gosh Jack, sorry to see you buying into the separatist viewpoint. You do know that all Maori have European blood today don’t you? Not only should you not be listening to Hone, you should be rejecting the Maori Party as a racist separtist political entity.

    As for “social justice”, its just another euphemism for Communism. Just another in a long line of buzz words designed to deflect from the true intent of the far left. NZ’s future lies in the rejection of apartheid/ separatism and the embrace of free market principles.

    Your Marxist rhetoric shows your political mentality is stuck so far in the past, I’ll bet your latest clothing purchase was a Che Guevera t-shirt.

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  12. MyNameIsJack (2,415 comments) says:

    I see a lot of similarity in the way Hone is tearing down the maori party with the way Sarah and the Palinistas are tearing at the fabric of the GOP.

    Both were briefly welcomed in to the tent, but soon found that pissing on it from outside was more satisfactory than eating dead fish swimming upstream.

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  13. big bruv (13,886 comments) says:

    Back in 08 I predicted that the Maori party would manufacture a reason to distance themselves from the Nat’s in election year, the reason for this is obvious, to retain their seats and have a chance at gaining all of the apartheid places in the house they need to attract the racist/activist vote.

    Sure Turia and co will talk about achieving more by being part of the National coalition, but the reality is that they are politicians, the most important thing to them is keeping their noses in the trough.

    This is the reason they are so reluctant to kick out John Hatfield, he represents a huge percentage of their vote, watch for the Maori party to find a way of keeping Hatfield in the party and watch for them to start attacking the government and blaming the white man for all their ills.

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  14. Manolo (13,754 comments) says:

    A spat between too deeply-ingrained racists. Who cares?

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  15. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Just out of interest, is it technically possible for Hone to switch from being a Maori Party MP to being a Labour Party MP before the next election? He seems to want to work with Labour and it would seem logical for him (if kicked out of the Maori Party) to simply join Labour.

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  16. Viking2 (11,467 comments) says:

    What was the Maori party vote versus the Maori constituency ? was it 2.5%. That doesn’t mean the MP representmany Maori nor does it mean that they are even wanted in the total system. Remove the rascist seats.

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  17. scrubone (3,099 comments) says:

    Saw him on TVNZ7 last night and just caught him admitting himself that he has a problem with authority.

    I happen to have a very low opinion of people who have that character trait. It basically makes them useless for almost anything constructive, especially an MP.

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  18. markm (114 comments) says:

    Hone was asked on radio Live this morning if he would attend his disciplinary hearing .
    He said hadnt intended to but his mother last night , told him to.
    he repeated this several times and confirmed he would attend.

    Seems that Hone is a mums boy and the voters of Te Taitokerau voted for Titewhai not hONE

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  19. Mark (1,488 comments) says:

    The relationship between the Maori Party and National remains an uncomfortable one for many Maori. There appears to be a gulf forming within Maoridom itself and this split may be symptomatic of that. This is being driven by the haves and have-nots from the treaty settlement process. The government is pouring millions of taxpayer dollars into the settlement of treaty claims and the industry that has been established around the process but there is a substantial part of Maoridom that will never see any benefit or progress from that process.

    The sale of the SOE’s being promoted by the Key government is a point in case. The Maori party supports the process as it sees an investment opportunity for the tribes with the growing economic base and as assets they can earmark for claims under the treaty settlements process. Whatever Hone Harawira’s motivation, and only he knows what that may be he makes some valid points about the dislocation between the direction beeen taken by the Maori party in supporting National’s policies of Lower tax for the well paid, higher GST and selling state assets all being disadvantageous to the majority of his constituency. If the maori party leaders were honest about it they would also admit that raising GST and reducing tax for the wealthy is hardly in the interests of their core constituency. Their support of state asset sales on the other hand is simply opportunistic

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  20. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    He has no respect for our authoritah!

    He probably feels that as an MP who brings to that party more than his fair share of votes and ideological supporters, that they don’t respect to his authoritah enough. But anyway…

    I admired Helen Clark’s stand against the Maori Day ugliness in general and Momma Harawira in particular. Holding a grudge against someone who was downright bloody rude to you is classy and there needs to be more of it. Naughty children need to be sent a clear message when they cross the line, no I’m not going to give your tantrum the audience you crave.

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  21. Shazzadude (529 comments) says:

    Tariana’s a hypocrite. Does she not recall her disrespect of the leadership as a Labour Party MP?

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  22. ciaron (1,431 comments) says:

    This is being driven by the haves and have-nots from the treaty settlement process.

    Surely that’s a problem for Maoridom to sort out, not the Govenment or the White Man?

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  23. Ryan Sproull (7,128 comments) says:

    Tariana’s a hypocrite. Does she not recall her disrespect of the leadership as a Labour Party MP?

    That’s such an excellent point that I am going to steal it and pretend it was my own.

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  24. annie (539 comments) says:

    He’s a Harawira, seems unable to see any sort of big picture. What is surprising is that his loose cannon act took so long.

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  25. Bevan (3,924 comments) says:

    I admired Helen Clark’s stand against the Maori Day ugliness in general and Momma Harawira in particular. Holding a grudge against someone who was downright bloody rude to you is classy and there needs to be more of it. Naughty children need to be sent a clear message when they cross the line, no I’m not going to give your tantrum the audience you crave.

    I got a better idea – can Waitangi Day.

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  26. Nookin (3,341 comments) says:

    Except that Turiana decided that when her principles conflicted with Labour’s it was time to go and she did go. Not so Hone. He wants everyone else to change to his way of thinking and persistantly undermines what they are doing in the meantime.

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  27. Yvette (2,812 comments) says:

    “Kaupapa Maori is supposed to be the basis of our party, but it seems that some people will happily ditch the Kaupapa for a Pakeha process whenever a problem crops up. Go figure …”
    – Wednesday February 09, 2011 Source: ONE News

    No, I can’t quite figure this, but then I am just ignorant European trash … old white trash, Hone, so I was here long before you, but I still wonder if you were not aware of Party procedures; and if they are shonky white based procedures, why did you not complain before this, or have you just gone along with the Party and yourself or Mummy hadn’t read the fine print until now?

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  28. tvb (4,418 comments) says:

    I saw Annette Sykes on TV defending Harawera stating that his conduct accords with Maori values. However the issues Mrs Turia is raising are what I consider Maori values. Respect for the Leadership, respect for the organisation you belong to, maintaining agreements. These are fairly universal values but I think Maori do have a deep regard for these values. I nearly raised this with Annette today as I saw her but it was not the time nor place unfortunately.

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  29. hj (6,996 comments) says:

    The difference between Hone and Tariana is Tariana says: “Maori only want their day in court” and Hone says “Maori own the foreshore and seabed”.

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  30. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    anyone else sick of hearing about this brown motherfucker?

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  31. big bruv (13,886 comments) says:

    “I saw Annette Sykes on TV defending Harawera stating that his conduct accords with Maori values. ”

    Maori values, what an interesting concept.

    What are the “Maori values” when it comes to the care of their young?
    What are the “Maori values” when it comes to the crime wave that is Maori youth?
    What are the “Maori values” when it comes to Maori unemployment?
    What are the “Maori values” when it comes to Maori education failure?
    What are the “Maori values” when it comes to Maori imprisonment?

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  32. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    you cant ask those questions bruv! youre racist!

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  33. ephemera (556 comments) says:

    If you think Maori should be collectively responsible for that stuff, Big Bruv, then you shouldn’t think a party set up along ethnic lines to be racist, either.

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  34. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    There is no reason any NZ citizen who is in any sense Maori should feel personally responsible for any “Maori social issues” that they are not directly a part of. Any more than I should feel responsible for any white european New Zealanders who are in jail.

    But I would certainly expect a Maori political party intent on improving the lot of the generalised Maori population to feel some sort of responsibility to try to fix those things.

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  35. Inky_the_Red (759 comments) says:

    Hone bring a working class element to the Maori Party as distinct to the race only policies of Turia and co. His concern with poor Maori differs from the actions of the Maori elite. His beliefs are very different to elitists.

    My question is who controls the Maori Party? Is it the members or is it the elected leaders?

    If it is the leaders then Hone should probably leave now. If the membership has control then Turia and the rest of the Maori Party will have to listen to those 5,000 members. after that then the decision will need to be made if Hone goes or the current leadership goes.

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  36. Manolo (13,754 comments) says:

    Maori values, whatever that means, are extinct like the moa. I’m afraid such things do not exist.

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  37. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    it’s astonishing how you all..and the media…buy into this harawira as outlaw chimera…

    ..the mob is howling…and largely in unison…

    whereas what harawira is articulating is what was referred to earlier in the thread…

    ..in that he is articulating the concerns of the have-nots in maori…

    …the elites have been doing it sweet….

    …but they aren’t most maori..

    ..and all that most maori know is that the beneficiary-pogrom promised by key/bennett/national….

    …will hurt one hell of a lot of maori….

    (plus recent polling of maori party voters which showed 83% of them favoured labour..

    plus that post-election/post deal with national poll that showed 65% did not want a deal with national..

    ..’under any circumstances’…

    now..given that most maori are now doing it harder…it is not inconceivable that those attitudes have just hardened even more against national..

    and a second-term deal with an asset stripping/poor-pogroming national govt….will not be tolerated by that majority in the maori party..

    and key/national seem to think they have the maori party in the bag….after next election…

    …they are dreaming…

    ..the maori party voters will say to the leadership..enough is enough….

    ..and i repeat….it is only the concerns of these people..and this flawed plan..in the eyes of many…of cleaving to national…

    ..that harawira is vocalising….

    ..many/most maori party voters..(given those polls)..wd be horrified at the idea of joining up with a rampant tory party…

    …hell bent on kgiving many maori a good kicking..and selling off our common-wealth assets..

    ..but you know..!..baaa..!…baaa..!..harawira bad..!

    ..eh..?

    try doing some fucken thinking for yrslves..eh..?

    (look..!..over there…!..)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  38. PinkGina (91 comments) says:

    An oldie but worth repeating…

    On a recent trip to the U.S.A. , Maori Party M.P. Hone Harawira (alias John Hadfield, his true name, his grandfather was a pakeha) was invited to address a major gathering of the American Indian Nations in Kitimat, B.C.

    Due to his recent examples of how to inflame the Maori Indigenous situation in New Zealand …he spoke for almost an hour, echoing his racist mother’s doomed-to-fail radical ideas for increasing any First Nation’s standard of living.

    At the conclusion of his speech, the tribes’ presented Hone with a plaque inscribed with his new Indian name – “Walking Eagle”.

    The proud Hone then departed with his entourage, waving to the crowd as he left. A news reporter later asked the American Indian Chiefs how they came to select the new name given to Hone..

    They explained that “Walking Eagle” is the name given to a bird so full of shit it can no longer fly!

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  39. grumpyoldhori (2,362 comments) says:

    tvb what on earth are you saying about Sharples and Turia, that they are high born rangatira or ariki ?
    Nothing could be further from the truth, they are politicians, leaders of the Maori party, but they only get their authority from voters.
    Going on that slant Hone got more votes than either Sharples or Turia.

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  40. Bevan (3,924 comments) says:

    Going on that slant Hone got more votes than either Sharples or Turia.

    Did they vote for Hone Harawira? Or did they vote for the Maori Party candidate?

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  41. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    pretty stupid question really…

    seeing as harawira owns his seat…

    ..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  42. pq (728 comments) says:

    farrar,
    please say how will NZ NAt Govt win the elections
    Maori party dead Farrar

    Green 7% plus with labour
    Act 1% with Nat
    NZ First old people 5% Farrar

    speak here dude,

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  43. iMP (2,384 comments) says:

    If Hone has no respect for a “Pakeha system” (ie being held accountable and having a disciplinary meeting” initiated by his colleagues and peers), in his ego-centric high mindedness, I guess he;ll recoil from receiving a “pakeha” parliamentary salary too. That would have integrity.

    I guess the only thing to be learned out of this, is, take more care about selecting Party candidates. The Maori Party can’t be short of quality people, but this stuff is always enmeshed in tribal nepotism and internal politics – another reason to scrap the Maori seats. I think there’s room for a strong maori party in NZ – and John key’s liaison has been politically astute for the long term – but its leaders have to wrench the party away from parochial tribal nepotism, infighting, petty ego entanglements.

    Narcissists like Hone Harawira – who has a fundamental personality problem with authority (unless its him) – will always be a destructive element in any group. His entire wider family are all the same. Go Tariana Turia and Pita Sharples!

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  44. iMP (2,384 comments) says:

    Prediction: watch Winston make overtures to Hone. Te tai Tokerau would be a nice cushion for NZF if they can beat the Maori party locally.

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  45. KevinH (1,227 comments) says:

    It is unlikely that in election year that the Maori Party will expel Hone. He may be censured and suspended from caucus for a time but his support in the North is to great to overlook.

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  46. jackp (668 comments) says:

    Mark seems clued in on the whole picture. With Maori elite having assets over 15 billion and wanting to buy the SOE’s especially the electric companies and Key wanting to sell 49 percent interest, the opportunity is there for Maori to buy. I don’t like Hone but he is seeing first hand that the partnership between National and Maori party is purely money and not “mana”, which is why he is complaining about the “have nots” being excluded from this partnership like the rest of New Zealanders.

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  47. Viking2 (11,467 comments) says:

    Ya gotta like this.

    http://www.box.net/shared/y25zf3pc9t

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