Le Pen leads the polls

March 8th, 2011 at 2:44 pm by David Farrar

The Independent reports:

was shocked yesterday by an opinion poll which suggested that the far-right leader Marine Le Pen could win the first round of the presidential election next northern spring.

Although the poll was framed in a rather dubious way, and one out of three people gave no opinion, the outcome was a deep humiliation for President Nicolas Sarkozy and a stark warning to his bickering would-be centre-left rivals.

Le Pen has now doubled her opinion poll score in the space of four months – from 12 per cent to 23 per cent – revealing a deep anger with French politics-as-usual among voters of both the Right and the Left.

Le Pen is smarter than her father. She holds her own in political debates, and avoids the extreme positions of her father. She is anti free trade and generally left wing economically, but also rails against liberalism. She is anti-privatisation and anti-monetarist.

On the EU she wants it changed to a loose confederation, and advocates leaving the Euro.

In terms of immigration, her policy is to have a moratorium. She is anti-abortion, anti-euthanasia and supports capital punishment for child kidnapping and/or the murder of children or the elderly.

I do not think she will be elected President of France, but there is a real possibility she will make it into the final round of voting. In fact the most likely person not to make the final round is President Sarkozy at the moment. But April 2012 is still a long way off.

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19 Responses to “Le Pen leads the polls”

  1. kowtow (7,953 comments) says:

    So a left leaning nationalist is “far right” according to the MSM. Go figure.

    I reckon it’s scare tactics by the MSM in relation to immigration. The message from the MSM is “allow your country to be swamped”.

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  2. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    She is anti free trade and generally left wing economically, but also rails against liberalism. She is anti-privatisation and anti-monetarist.

    WTF? That can hardly be called “Far Right”.

    Or is anti-liberalism and anti-immigration the only criteria for a right wing party these days?

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  3. ephemera (563 comments) says:

    kowtow and bevan: What isn’t stated on this blog post is that Le Pen is leader of a party called The Front National, which is generally agreed to be situated far to the right of the political spectrum, both in the French and European parliaments.

    I also hasten to add, Nicolas Sarkozy might also be considered left wing by the reckoning of some. French politics is mental this way.

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  4. V (694 comments) says:

    Why don’t they elect someone who will put Europes insolvent banks to the sword.
    The whole Euro area will benefit.

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  5. emmess (1,398 comments) says:

    Let face it, far right is an epithet, it conjures up images of fascism. Even it not is considered to be the on actual far right of a traditional left-right political spectrum.
    So given that, I always wondered why Winston Peters was never labeled far right. He would have been in Europe.

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  6. DJP6-25 (1,313 comments) says:

    They’re left wing nationalists. They like the idea of a powerful government. Beleive it or not, Labour in the UK was like this before 1914. If they were ‘far right’, they’d be Anarchists. Those on the ‘far left’, are Stalinists. Labour and National here are very close to each other on the centre left.

    cheers

    David Prosser

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  7. ben (2,414 comments) says:

    Only in France and the New Zealand Labour Party does being anti-free trade, anti-monetarism and anti-privatisation get you labelled as Far Right.

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  8. ephemera (563 comments) says:

    @DJP6-25

    You’ve just conflated a bunch of ideologies, and proven it’s pointless trying to place ideologies across entire continents and centuries into left/right groupings.

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  9. Magnanomis (138 comments) says:

    Le Pen is well within the tradition of French statism, dirigisme, and social conservatism. Even the Germans are increasingly Euro-sceptics – afterall, they are largely paying for the PIGs (PIIGs if you include the Italian tragi-comedy).

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  10. V (694 comments) says:

    @ephemera

    I agree that political views can be hard to ‘categorize’ especially over time. I think the political compass does an interesting job, in that you have an economic scale (left-right) and a social scale (authoritarian-libertarian).
    Many of the questions we are deal with as a society are at root philosophical and have been pondered for generations.

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/index

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  11. bearhunter (859 comments) says:

    “paying for the PIGs (PIIGs if you include the Italian tragi-comedy).”

    So if you include Italy it becomes GIPSI. Cool…

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  12. AlphaKiwi (687 comments) says:

    When taking economic, political and racial and or immigration views into account then many a so-called far-right party would in fact be more accurately labelled left wing socialist-conservative racists. This would probably include the NZ Maori Party, The British National Party, and France’s Le Front National.

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  13. mikeysmokes (269 comments) says:

    I’ll put money on her getting a spot in the semi finals

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  14. Ed Snack (1,801 comments) says:

    This isn’t exactly earth-shattering, for a start her father won the first round against, I think, Chirac did he not, in 2002. Also beat the socialist contender into third (Jospin, from memory).

    And yes, to describe the melange of views espoused by Le Pen as “Far Right” is a travesty of the term. I’d go with V’s remark, and say that Le Pen is socially conservative and economically quite far left. The “far-right” tag is merely labelling to rouse the “masses” against her candidacy.

    Unhappiness with the EU though is becoming very widespread in Europe, not surprising seeing how undemocratic the whole exercise is. I have a feeling that we may see some almost revolutionary changes in some countries, including possibly the UK and France, with old established parties possibly being swept away by voter anger. That is, if they can organize themselves to do it and apathy doesn’t become the dominant force.

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  15. georgebolwing (686 comments) says:

    As I understand it, the poll in question proposed Socialist Party leader Martine Aubry as that Party’s candidate, rather than IMF Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn, who is more likely to run under that banner and is much more popular.

    If Ms Le Pen does come either first or second in the first round, then, as was the case with Jacques Chirac in 2002, who ever comes second/first will be assured of victory, as it is most likely that all voters for other parties knocked out will vote against Ms Le Pen.

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  16. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    This is no surprise to nationalists who have been following her career.

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  17. ephemera (563 comments) says:

    Do you consider yourself a Nationalist, Joana?

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  18. simonway (375 comments) says:

    If Le Pen makes it past the first round, she’ll be beaten with banana-republic results. The other one ended up losing to the centre-right Chirac’s >80% of the vote. Essentially, everybody who’s not a Front national member hates the FN (like all the British parties hate the BNP, or all the Swedish parties hate the SD), so they’ll turn out en masse to make sure that Le Pen loses.

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  19. GPT1 (2,106 comments) says:

    Can anyone explain how “far right” ends up going to far right your policies are, in fact, far left? Is it just a simplistic authoritarian v liberal label completely ignoring economic considerations?

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