Petulance
August 4th, 2011 at 4:44 pm by David FarrarHave a look at this clip from the House today, starting around 7 minutes in.
Chris Tremain points out a Labour MP was yelling “liar” out at Paula Bennett. The Speaker asks if that happened and no one takes responsibility for it. Tremain then says it was Carmel Sepuloni.
Lockwood then asks Sepuloni to stand, withdraw and apologise unless she is saying she didn’t say it. She remains seated and the Speaker has to ask her directly did she say it.
She then admits she said it, but doesn’t do withdraw and apologise properly for it. Lockwood instructs here again to do so, and threatens to name her. She then gets up and says she does so “reluctantly”. Lockwood has to again threaten to name her, and finally she apologises looking like a petulant 10 year old.
I think Paula’s majority in Waitakere just got a bit larger!
August 4th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
wow .. she will make a GREAT new world Labour MP
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Lockwood Smith should have named Sepuloni. Her arrogance was appalling, and she showed an absolute lack of respect for the House and its conventions. Labour had a shocker today; watch out for Trevor’s dummy-spit during Q3 when he stormed out of the House in a funk.
http://inthehouse.co.nz/node/9953
The fun starts at about 8:20
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
and fancy asking Lynne Pillay what she should do
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Mallard’s dummy-spit continues here
http://inthehouse.co.nz/node/9951
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Ooh naughty. Why is it only the Labour MPs that misbehave in Parliament?
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
I don’t think that you can have that much experience with 10 year olds David.
Vote:They are much, much more mature and well behaved than Sepuloni.
August 4th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
They behave better in kindergarten. What a child, what a smart face. Does she have any idea how this looks on tv?
Ah, we’ll ever see this on tv. And secondly because the National Party is against free speech, so no one is allowed to put this on tv at a time when people are thinking about voting.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
what happens if he names her??
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
I think that was an actual tantrum! How pathetic!
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
I know a girl who used to carry on like that when she was three years old. I once carried her from one end of a campground to another while she had a massive tantrum. She has grown up now. It seems Sepuloni hasn’t.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Did that look like the act of someone who really, really doesn’t want to be there?
Labour are turning feral at a great rate of knots. There could be some quality viewing on PTV in the next few weeks.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
I love this speaker. Forget the rest of his political career, Old Lockie has found his calling.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Caramel Septic. What a disgrace she is to the good name of my home town.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
He has, Grizz.
He is absolutely fair. He deals with them all courteously and civilly, in a I’ve-seen-it-all-heard-it-all manner. Very much in good humour.
He is the best Speaker in nearly a generation. Much better than his predecessor, who seemed to lose her temper a lot, and even better than Jonathan Hunt, whom many regarded as very good.
Why, why Labour think they have to have a go at him every so often is very puzzling. It don’t look good when you do, Trev.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
dime (3,311) Says:
August 4th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
what happens if he names her??
If she gets named she gets docked a days salary and is not allowed in the chamber for a sitting day. That is what happens to the best of my knowledge. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Note to Stuart Nash: This is the sort of talent you need to demostrate if you want to move up the Labour Party List..
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
no trougher likes losing a days pay…
what does lockwood earn? 250? cause whatever it is, i dont think its enough for the shit he endures.
hes an excellent speaker. light years ahead of that horrible woman that used to do it
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Pretty clear that he should have named her, except she did follow his instructions to the letter.
Reminds me of that one of Trevor’s last term I think where he almost got named.
Dime: he certainly is a massive improvement, but that is hardly odd. A rotten banana would do a better job than Wilson who willfully and shamelessly tilted the playing field towards the government and away from accountability.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Yea, Hunt may have been regarded as “very good” by some, but not by our host.
Vote:http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2004/03/about_as_impartial_as_a_south_african_referee.html
August 4th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
http://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/naming-of-a-member/
Seems about the same as ours from my memory of what people were posting last time it came up.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Fat fucking slapper
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
“hes an excellent speaker. light years ahead of that horrible woman that used to do it”
..surely you jest , what was wrong with limpy wilson?
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Now that lady needs a smack! (for the prevention of harm, you understand….)
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I listen to the house regularly & Labour MP’s behavour this week has been particularly confrontational & petulant.
Not sure what this is a symptom of? Could be any number of things:
- proximity of the election & their position in the polls.
- Dissatisfaction with Goff’s leadership & discipline breaking down.
- Standard fare for left-ards..
- all of the above
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
NX
Vote:It’s the moon. Not long and it will be situation normal.
August 4th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
As great an impact as this should perhaps have, what makes you think that any potential swing voter in Waitakere watches Parliament TV?
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Nookin (1,091) Says:
Did Annette King say that? The former minister for Common Sense tends to blame things on the moon.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
… I just watched the video again & suddenly felt a of tinge of depression that his petulant MP earns something like $120,000 a year.
Vote:August 4th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
What a bloody circus.
How the hell do these people get in a seat in that building?
Our democracy is sick.
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 1:16 am
I agree – how depressing that this woman is on $120k p/a and acts like this. Disgusting. I wouldn’t have accepted her apology, it was bullshit and she should have been named.
Edit this video and play it during the campaign if you want a reminder of the contempt Labour has for New Zealand.
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Totally agree Clint. When Sepuloni said
Lockwood Smith should have obliged her, sent her packing and named her. When her next response was
there is no doubt that she should have been named. She wilfully defied an instrction from the Speaker, and in doing so showed a complete absence of respect for both the Speaker and for the entire Parliament.
I can’t help but wonder if the Mossad Backpackers “scandal” is weighing heavily on Labour as a whole. There was a complete lack of caucus discipline on Wednesday and Thursday in the House. Goff has been weak, and there seems to be no-one capable of uniting the various factions in caucus.
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 9:54 am
I watched the video.
Vote:You see the look on CS’ face in the criminal courts all the time.
Makes me wonder if CS took the wrong turn at some stage and stumbled into the wrong room.
August 5th, 2011 at 10:02 am
You mean by joining the labour party? There’s a difference?
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Clint Heine (1,216) Says:
I realise Carmel is relatively new to the house, but I really do wonder about the political depth of some of Labour’s backbench MPs.
I mean could she actually back up her claim that Paula is a liar with numbers & a well reasoned argument? Or was she just shouting out liar because she’s as dense as a kauri tree stump & just wanted to impress her Labour mates.
Because of Labour’s top-driven candidate selection process, I’m concerned that many back-bench MPs are selected based on their ability to ‘cheerlead’ rather than lead – allowing power to be consolidated at the top. Left-ard parties tend to favour consolidating power at the top.
So what you end up with is the political equivalent of goons who earn as much as a General Practitioner.
My personal ethos is to never call someone a liar if I can’t back it up. & if I were privileged enough to be an MP earning $120k, I’d make damn sure of it. Otherwise NZers aren’t getting value for their dollars.
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
I’m concerned that many back-bench MPs are selected based on their ability to ‘cheerlead’ rather than lead
I’m concerned about that too, Mana is one example, and the new candidate fro Dunedin North has already able demonstrated party parroting. And Dunedin South has been one of the main Red Alert cheerleaders. I wonder what it will take to shake things voters here.
– allowing power to be consolidated at the top.
But they aren’t looking very powerful at the top either, the cheerleaders are floating up but they have too many party frills and not enough substance.
Vote:August 5th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Liarbour has another three years out of treasury seats.
Most of the Liarbour front row will never see treasury seats again
Phil Goffs career ends in November
Should expect some senior retirements as well
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