General Debate 21 February 2012

February 21st, 2012 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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72 Responses to “General Debate 21 February 2012”

  1. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    Ya!

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  2. wreck1080 (3,917 comments) says:

    How bout Willie lose getting the boot from Newstalk ZB and being replaced by renowned wife beater Tony Veitch.

    This is really bad, I feel like boycotting ZB .

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  3. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    I will start listening to ZB in order to boycott them immediately wreck.

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  4. Scott Chris (6,139 comments) says:

    wreck says:- “being replaced by renowned wife beater Tony Veitch”

    Yeah he’s a wife beater, but he’s been through the courts and as a result of his renown, has had to pay a far heavier price than most for his sins.

    If you like sport, he’s actually a very astute and accomplished journalist. I enjoy listening to him on radio sport every now and then.

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  5. Manolo (13,778 comments) says:

    Veitch over Lose any time.

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  6. Bandycoot (29 comments) says:

    Anybody else see the Stuff article yesterday about some nong from the “Iwi” moving on and squatting on one of the Crafar farms, claimimng they want it returned as part of some sort of Treaty settlement??

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  7. Manolo (13,778 comments) says:

    The increasing cost of living in NZ: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/business/6450286/The-cost-of-a-pint-on-the-up

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  8. Manolo (13,778 comments) says:

    Here it is. The Stone Age people claims Crafar: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/business/6448873/Iwi-claims-Crafar-farm

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  9. immigant (950 comments) says:

    Reading the Crafar Farm occupy article, I’ve come to teh conclusion that in NZ it is now acceptable to turn up to any private property in NZ, camp on it and demand for it to be taken from the owner and given to you.

    And police won’t do anything if you are Maori.

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  10. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    It is private land – the owners should ask the cops to move those squaters off immediately. They wont though and yeet another side show will present itself.

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  11. Gosman (324 comments) says:

    I so do enjoy the ravings of the loony left. I’ve been enjoying baiting a number of them over at The Standard regarding their belief that National Party policies are killing little children. Strangely they have gone pretty quiet when asked for actual evidence for this. The funniest reply came from a commentator who posted an article which references a study about the increase in rates of infectious disease admissions (not deaths) to NZ Hospitals. The study mentioned an increase in this of 51%. However this was from 1998 through to 2008. Hmmmm…. who was in charge for the majority of that time I wonder?

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  12. immigant (950 comments) says:

    Gosman

    Carefull you’ll get banned if you use too much logic

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  13. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    wreck1080: IMO, dropping Willie Lose was inevitable….

    I suspect the reason he was dumped was because his ratings were dropping like a stone because listeners (including me) were getting increasingly pissed off having a general sport programme hijacked by someone who spent his airtime talking all about himself / his gym life and everything to do with his personal values and his own lifestyle. In fact, his airtime was being increasingly dominated by interviews with someone he knew from the same gym he uses / or someone who was keen on sports nutrition / or something he did (or someone he met) when he travelled to watch the Sevens etc. It wasn’t flash – it had people such as me reaching for the ‘off’ switch.

    In fact, Lose today complained of his dumping by saying that he is the only person on NewstalkZB who has been a professional sportsman (I presume this is because of the time he played rugby in Japan). So what? The fact that Lose once played footy for Auckland / once played footy for Tonga / once earned a dollar by playing offshore is not a prerequisite for being a good broadcaster. OTOH, the benchmark for sports broadcasting is Murray Deaker. He dominates the sports airwaves because he’s good at it. He talks about sport. Any sport. And he interviews the sports people in the news. He knows his stuff. He is simply at the other end of the spectrum to Lose. And I’m sure the ratings reflect it…

    So Tony Veitch returns. Whilst most people lost respect for him over what he did in a previous domestic environment, the fact remains that he is very good at his job on the air. I’d expect the ratings for these timeslots (on which NewstalkZB depends for revenue) will improve as a result of Veitch’s appointment. And I (for one) will tune back in….

    My 2c…

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  14. EverlastingFire (286 comments) says:

    Amusing video of the toothless fool squatting on private property http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6451161/Iwi-protesters-occupy-for-sale-Crafar-farm

    You’d think they’d be wanting to warm up to the Chinese so they treat them well when they take over :D

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  15. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    People listen to people talking about sport? Why?

    Like dancing about architecture.

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  16. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    Rawiri Taonui on Holmes:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10786770

    My take on it.

    http://nowoccupy.blogspot.com/2012/02/face-off-is-paul-holmes-arse.html

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  17. Pete George (23,567 comments) says:

    Monique – Holmes was criticised for generalising about ‘Maori’. Taonui is at least as bad major generalisiing about ‘Pakeha’.

    And you’re suggesting we raise the flagpole on Waitangi Day?

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  18. Manolo (13,778 comments) says:

    How high will petrol at the pump go? http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2012/02/20/crude-tops-105-hits-month-highs-as-iran-halts-some-eu-exports/

    And add to the price the ETS taxes courtesy of Key & Smith.

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  19. lilman (959 comments) says:

    Both Holmes and Taonui are right and wrong on many points,they are opinions that all definately worth consideration and scorn,so life goes on.

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  20. big bruv (13,901 comments) says:

    Wreck1080

    I must admit to being one who is glad that Lose has lost his job, I gave up listening to him (and his ever increasing ego) some time ago. Lose might know a thing or two about Rugby but he knows fuck all about any other sport.

    The problem I have is that I dislike Vietch even more, IMHO the little bastard should still be locked in a prison cell and left to contemplate the fact that he bashed a female to the point where he nearly crippled her. If that was not bad enough he (Vietch) then embarked on what I consider to be a carefully orchestrated campaign to gain sympathy from the public.

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  21. Paulus (2,627 comments) says:

    Gosman
    I love baiting The Standard – they rise to the bait so quickly, and it’s fun – better than Red Jerk – they are pathetic.

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  22. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    Willie Lose is terrible. He may have played pro rugby but his overall sporting knowledge is piss poor.

    Hes also a bit too conservative/ boring. Like hes modelled himself on deaker aka fuckwit.

    Wonder how Devlins ratings on a saturday are doing?

    Also, i like veitch when hes toned down in the evenings.

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  23. lee.hinkleman (17 comments) says:

    Contractors have chopped at least ~40 hectares of trees on the Tongariro River. A supervisor told me they’d poison the tree stumps with Garlon, which eventually could become part of Lake Taupo and the water supply.
    They were planning to burn 10,000 cubic meters of chopped vegetation, and their plan seems vague, to me.

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  24. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    Nice to see Chester Borrows having the nous to put some facts into the public domain; and kneecapping Matt McCarten in the process!

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2012/02/whos-maths-challenged-dimwit-now-matt.html

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  25. Manolo (13,778 comments) says:

    The almost forgotten Goff “warns” us: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8422876/mfat-could-slash-300-jobs-report

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  26. Nookin (3,344 comments) says:

    Good to see the Church has its priorities sorted. Money up front.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6450487/Church-dubbed-neighbour-from-hell

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  27. wf (442 comments) says:

    lee.hinkleman (16) Says:

    Contractors have chopped at least ~40 hectares of trees on the Tongariro River.

    Whereabouts?

    The plantation on the north side of the Turangi bridge on SH1 was mature and due for felling, otherwise it could have started to drop into the river. Maybe 4 ha, certainly not 40.

    I know that DOC is getting rid of the wilding pines along the river-

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  28. Pete George (23,567 comments) says:

    The Dom editorial asks where David Shearer is, and makes an amusing but pertinent point.

    Mr Shearer needs more than a catchy slogan to make a real impact in what is after all a contest of ideas.

    …Mr Shearer has yet to tell voters in any great detail how, if at all, a David Shearer-led Labour Party is different to the one under Mr Goff. His stated vision of a “clean, green and clever New Zealand” is so platitudinous as to be almost meaningless. It would have some resonance if Mr Key was advocating a dirty, polluted, dumb New Zealand, but he is not, and nor is anyone else.

    For a while after the election we had a triple dollop of Davids. I don’t think all three were meant to fade into the background.

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  29. graham (2,335 comments) says:

    There has certainly been a carefully orchestrated campaign to bring Tony Veitch carefully back into the public arena. I listen to radio very infrequently – basically, while I’m in the car and that’s it – and even I noticed it. Just one example: on Mike Hosking’s breakfast show, they have a short portion each morning around 6:20 where the newsreader and the sports reader from the news join Hosking in the studio and talk about random stuff. At least, it USED to be the sports reader from the news. Sometime last year, they quietly stopped using the sports reader from Newstalk ZB’s news, and started getting Tony Veitch in.

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  30. KevinH (1,227 comments) says:

    Rawiri Taonui’s thoughtful considered reply to the Holmes article illustrates the great divide between those who are aware of New Zealands history and those that are not. Holmes maybe a successful broadcaster, but as a social commentator his columns are drivel, shallow and often wrong.

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  31. Lance (2,655 comments) says:

    @KevinH
    So if we are all ‘enlightened’ we should tolerate … nae embrace the endless denigration, derision and disrespect that Waitangi Day has become.

    FUCK THAT

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  32. Pete George (23,567 comments) says:

    Rawiri Taonui’s thoughtful considered reply

    …generalising all ‘Pakeha’ as one big ignorant negative. Isn’t that just about as bad as Holmes was?

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  33. wreck1080 (3,917 comments) says:

    Contact profits tumble 20%!

    Given that directors and CEO’s place so much emphasis on performance when demanding pay rises, I’d expect to see quite a large pay cut to contact executives / directors / board members for such poor performance.

    Think it will happen? Not on your nellie. They’re probably already clamouring for a 20% pay rise.

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  34. graham (2,335 comments) says:

    philu, having had his fill of blatantly promoting his website here, apparently chooses to bore the pants off everyone at frogblog. And even they have now had enough … although it looks like they’re having a hui to decide if they should tell him to get lost, or if it is his INALIENABLE RIGHT to post WHATEVER he wants, WHENEVER he wants …

    … eh?

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  35. Griff (7,722 comments) says:

    You are the third person to miss “eh” this month
    He will be back once his demerits expire :???:
    Phil U 02-Mar-12 4 months

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  36. wreck1080 (3,917 comments) says:

    “Yeah he’s a wife beater, but he’s been through the courts and as a result of his renown, has had to pay a far heavier price than most for his sins.”

    I don’t care, he was well aware of his high profile and should have had the intelligence to hold back the fist and let the steam off in other ways. Veitch has found out the hard way that reputation is hard won but easily lost.

    Veitch will be a ‘wife’ beater in the public mind for the rest of his life. Mind you , I never really liked him before he beat up his wife so I guess I’m pre-prejudiced.

    I enjoyed listening to Willie Lose. Sad to see him go. I would assume the ratings were not good enough and he probably would have an idea that this might happen.

    You could tell ZB desperately wanted veitch back on air.

    Of interest, the NZ herald poll has Lose ahead of Veitch.

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  37. Yvette (2,820 comments) says:

    I can not understand how a Government through tobacco products duty can condone the sale of a product that kills people.
    But that said –

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/6454141/Study-backs-ban-on-smoking-outside-bars

    Study backs ban on smoking outside bars
    New Zealand researchers believe fewer people would take up smoking socially if smoke-free rules extended to areas outside bars.
    The researchers from Otago and Massey universities carried out 13 in-depth interviews with people aged between 19 and 25 in Auckland and Dunedin early in 2011.

    What? – they interviewed thirteen people … 13?
    Surely a type mistake?
    But no –

    The research was carried out by members of ASPIRE2025, a partnership which aims to have this country tobacco-free by 2025.

    The researchers noted that, as with all small scale qualitative research, their study had limitations. Only four of those in the study were women, who had been more difficult to recruit than men, while only two reported some Maori ancestry.

    Take interviews with 13 people to effect the lives of about 654,000?
    It’s about as bloody inseine as climate change research.

    How much tax payer funding does ASPIRE2025 get?

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  38. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    “Yeah he’s a wife beater, but he’s been through the courts and as a result of his renown, has had to pay a far heavier price than most for his sins.”

    amazing how facts get to become the truth.

    There was no Mrs Veitch was there? she was his sometime girl friend if I recall.and not a particularly nice one at that.

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  39. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    Good news. A disgusting piece of humanity [Travis Jay Hulme, of Massey, West Auckland,] is locked up for 22 months.

    Customs seized one computer and found 63 movies and 1416 images of “teen/adult material”, 58 movies and 20 images of bestiality and 17 movies and 1964 images of children in sexual poses or activity. A laptop searched had 18 gigabytes of material including 11,000 images of child sex, and movies of pornographic cartoons and bestiality. Hulme said he couldn’t remember downloading the files….”

    This prick couldn’t remember???? 75 movies and thousands of pics? Cue: Tui Advert.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6455364/Home-detention-rejected-for-child-porn-user

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  40. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Peter Gleick fesses up
    http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/20/peter-gleick-admits-to-deception-in-obtaining-heartland-climate-files/

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  41. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    nookin@1131

    Private property rights?

    The headline could as easily be ” Health Centre nuisance neighbours”
    But it’s easier to bag those darned Christians.
    And health centres operate at a loss for the good of their patients?

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  42. nasska (11,518 comments) says:

    kowtow

    It’ll be interesting to see how the stoush pans out. The God stalkers are getting serious as evidenced by the hiring of a security guard to safeguard their interests. I dare say that the bloodletters will have their lawyers firing up.

    The worry will be if the dispute escalates. If Father Dennehy throws his toys out of the cot & asks Yahweh to start smiting things the neighbours could end up as collateral damage.

    Where will it all end?

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  43. plebe (271 comments) says:

    Um righties how much do you think our smarly/smiley money market dealer Prime Minister the not so honourable John Key has valued New Zealand at and his commision if he sold the freehold (NZ)to his best mates and our masters the COMMUNIST chinese.
    ps a hint we dont need diplomats when CHINA owns us OPPS are our best friends, slash and burn the foriegn service.

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  44. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    http://offsettingbehaviour.blogspot.co.nz/2012/02/you-can-take-it-with-you.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+OffsettingBehaviour+%28Offsetting+Behaviour%29

    You can take it with you
    Life insurance policies, at least in New Zealand, will pay out subsequent to diagnosis of terminal illness. But if you can’t quite wait that long, well…

    Prominent unionist and left-wing agitator Matt McCarten is taking offers on his life insurance policy in an attempt to settle a $150,000 tax debt.
    The cancer-striken Unite union boss said the policy had a face value of $230,000 and prompt payout was highly likely following a terminal diagnosis.
    “I was given odds last year, in September, of a 0.8% chance of survival,” he told the National Business Review of the cancer that has spread to his liver.
    “If anyone wants to buy the policy I’m open to offers. They can invest in my death, bet on it, and give the tax department the money that I owe them,” he said.
    Mr McCarten said he was happy to provide potential bidders with access to his medical records “if they want to make it a calculated gamble”.

    Parties interested in purchasing the policy should contact Mr McCarten who is seeking a quick sale. “I’m aware that I’m running against the clock and I’m determined not to die in debt,” he said.

    I don’t know that there’s any rule barring sale of beneficiary rights in a life insurance policy, nor do I think there should be any such rule, but I’m still a bit surprised that this is allowed.

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  45. plebe (271 comments) says:

    YOU ARE ONE BRIGHT BUNNY viking2 she was a women,v2 so do you kick and bash females ??? i thought so, tough poster
    Viking2

    amazing how facts get to become the truth.

    There was no Mrs Veitch was there? she was his sometime girl friend if I recall.and not a particularly nice one at that.???

    Come on Viking2 PUT THE BOOT IN you are one LITTLE tough man????? like LITTLE veitch, ps go of and wimp like he did the little tosser

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  46. Griff (7,722 comments) says:

    A prisoner escapes from Mt eden prison where he had been kept for 15 years. as he runs away, he finds a house and breaks into it. He finds a young couple in bed. He gets the guy out of the bed, ties him up on a chair, ties up the woman to the bed and while he gets on top of her, he kisses her on the neck, then gets up, and goes to the bathroom.
    While he is there, the husband tells his wife: “Listen, this guy is a prisoner, look at his clothes! He probably spent a lot of time in prison, and has not seen a woman in years. I saw the way he kissed your neck. If he wants sex, don’t resist, don’t complain, just do what he tells you, give him satisfaction. This guy must be dangerous, if he gets angry, he will kill us. Be strong, honey. I love you!”
    To which the wife responds, “I am glad you think that way. Sure, he has not seen a woman in years, but he was not kissing my neck. He was whispering in my ear. He told me that he found you very sexy, and asked if we kept any Vaseline in the bathroom. Be strong honey. I love you too…!”

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  47. reid (16,467 comments) says:

    Um righties how much do you think our smarly/smiley money market dealer Prime Minister the not so honourable John Key has valued New Zealand at and his commision if he sold the freehold (NZ)to his best mates and our masters the COMMUNIST chinese.

    What sort of a mental question is that plebe? Haven’t you seen the comparison in the amount of land NZ sold to foreigners under Hulun vs what the Nats have sold to date? Doesn’t that mean anything to you?

    Perhaps when you grow up you’ll find it a disadvantage being so blinded by mindless ideology you can’t even think straight for that normally shows up at the interview stage so I fear, when you start looking to better yourself in life in anyway, be it finding a job, a partner or anything at all, you’ll be most unsuccessful unless and until you drop your mindless hatred and fanaticism.

    It’s just we taxpayers don’t feel like paying for you the rest of your natural life, you see. Hope you think that’s fair enough – I mean – we have our own families to support, why should we support you as well?

    Let’s hope if or when you do make the change to become a “normy” you won’t collapse into a fit of girly depression like many lefties are wont to do, for I’m personally myself getting a bit sick of paying for their rehab as well, esp since its all so unnecessary in the first place. I mean, all you have to do is avoid becoming fucked in the head and it never even becomes a problem but sadly, for you and we taxpayers, I fear we’ve got a particularly serious case of such on our hands. Oh the humanity (our humanity that is, not yours). You see plebe, in this case, we taxpayers are the victims. Isn’t that sad, and it’s all your fault.

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  48. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    nasska

    You strike me as a God stalker stalker.

    Leaves me wondering which is worse, the God stalker who tends to bother the Big Guy in the sky or the God stalker stalkers who bother little guys on Earth?

    Where will it end? God knows.

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  49. Griff (7,722 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6455871/Russian-group-claims-email-hack
    A Russian group claims to be behind the hacking of Foreign Affairs Minister Murray McCully’s email account

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  50. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    plebe (219) Says:
    February 21st, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    Not only do your miscontrue the truth and believe only what you want others to believe but you are a nasty piece of shit with it.

    Please tell us all where I supported the beating of any woman in what I had to say, which I will repeat for you to read. i.e. is if you can. Please apply any understanding of comprehension of the English Language, which our much vaunted, world leading, education system vested upon you when you were given by us taxpayers a free education.
    Obviously it didn’t work and points to the best reason possible why everyone shoud pay to be educated. It hurts more and you make the effort instead of being a lazy dopey fuckwit wasting education time and money.

    I repeat for your benefit and probably because of your benefit.

    “amazing how facts get to become the truth.

    There was no Mrs Veitch was there? she was his sometime girl friend if I recall.and not a particularly nice one at that.”

    We await your well educated and comprehensive reply to my request that you analyse what I have just repeated and show us all your amazing and extraordinary capacity to disect the English language and to arrive at the defamitory statement “v2 so do you kick and bash females”

    We await your obviously superior intellect.

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  51. Griff (7,722 comments) says:

    At least god stalker stalkers stalk a real stalking target
    Invisible sky pixie stalking is futile. stalking god stalkers gives some payback in the real world

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  52. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    so griff,you’re into stalking are you?

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  53. nasska (11,518 comments) says:

    kowtow

    …”You strike me as a God stalker stalker.”…..

    Shit! This is getting complicated.

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  54. Griff (7,722 comments) says:

    so kowtow you’re into Invisible sky pixie stalking found one lately?

    Talk to it you know invisible friend and all that

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  55. nasska (11,518 comments) says:

    Bob is sitting on a train staring dreamily at the guy across from him.

    “Hey,” says the guy, “why are you staring at me?”

    “Whether you believe it or not,” says Bob, “you are the spitting image of my wife. Except for the beard.”

    “I don’t have a beard,” says the guy.

    “No, but the wife does.”

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  56. cha (4,018 comments) says:

    An Irishman’s Diary

    A HISTORY of Ireland in 100 Excuses.

    1. Original sin.

    2. The weather.

    3. The 800 years of oppression.

    4. A shortage of natural resources.

    5. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak

    6. Red hair.

    etc

    etc

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  57. Don the Kiwi (1,757 comments) says:

    Griff adds to his 1,513 comments in his usual garbled unintelligable way, so that no-one except him can understand him.

    Keep it up Griff, you’re on your way to 2,000 non-sensical meaningless comments. :-)

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  58. Griff (7,722 comments) says:

    Don the Kiwi
    So that no-one except him can understand him.
    Sounds like a treaty on the ineffability of “g.d” to me :razz:
    Are you another sky pixie stalker?

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  59. nasska (11,518 comments) says:

    Did you know that Moses had to make a third trip up to the top of Mount Sinai?
    Well, on this third trip, Moses arrived at the burning bush after much climbing, removed his sandals, knelt and prayed to God.
    “Oh mighty God, King of the Universe, your people have sent me back here to ask you a question about the Ten Commandments.”
    “What question do they have for me?” roared the voice of God.
    “They want to know whether the commandments are listed according to priority.”

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  60. Griff (7,722 comments) says:

    Q: When is a pixie not a pixie?
    A: When he’s got his head up a fairy’s skirt, then he’s a goblin’.

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  61. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    griff , a stalker who has an interest in gobbling and fairies hmmmmmmm………becoming a bit clearer.

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  62. cha (4,018 comments) says:

    Frank Zappa – Goblin Girl

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  63. Griff (7,722 comments) says:

    kowtow

    Leaves me wondering which is worse, the God stalker who tends to bother the Big sky pixie or the God stalker stalkers who bother little guys on Earth
    Are you a little guy?
    hiho hiho its of to stalk we go

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  64. reid (16,467 comments) says:

    Hey check this article about feminists objecting to the latest Tui ad:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10787021

    “Today, women and girls are bombarded with images. Think about the music videos, movies, advertising – over time a lot of people now feel silenced, because these images are everywhere. We want to kick start communities talking again about how harmful these images are for women.

    So where are the feminists when you see an ad which demeans men by making them seem powerless and stupid in the face of powerful and “assertive” women? (Which you see all the time. Haven’t you noticed?) Or is it OK when its FOR the cause but not OK when its against it? Or is the very fact the question is raised at all by definition, simply sexism personified and will therefore be deemed beneath response?

    So whose the corrosive one? (That’s another phrase they use in the article. Remind you of anyone?)

    So they’re starting a campaign, which will get traction amongst the useful idiots, you watch. I suppose all the well trained metrosexual males will join them in their weeping and wailing. Perhaps they’ll even pull their own hair, just to show how much they “empathise.”

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  65. Manolo (13,778 comments) says:

    I reckon Ginga Huighes will join the feminists in this campaign.

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  66. Put it away (2,878 comments) says:

    reid – I’ll wager the ones doing the campaigning are all ugly as a hatful of arseholes.

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  67. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    Only a hat full?

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  68. nasska (11,518 comments) says:

    reid

    In this particular case I think the sisterhood may hit a brick wall. To successfully front foot a campaign such as this you must have a way to damage the company’s reputation or sales. Tui don’t make a product with any appeal to feminists…that honour probably goes to the makers of McWilliams Sweet Sherry.

    Tui’s market is younger, independent bogan like males. What the ball breakers think won’t worry them a stuff…..it will actually make the formers’ association with the product more appealing.

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  69. reid (16,467 comments) says:

    I guarantee they’re ugly, hairy and fat and also guarantee if one of them ever reads this they’ll probably call me a sexist as well so fuck it, they’re probably also lesbians too.

    The reason I think the campaign will work is it won’t necessarily knock it off the air since those ads are an institution same as Hell Pizza and same as their billboards but that’s not the point. The point is to put the message in front of all the impressionable young ladies out there that such thinking is just tewwible. Boys can’t be boys, we’re not allowed to be. Boys are full of puppy dog tails and when you get a few fat hairy ugly bull dykes screeching that it’s a heartbeat before the university academics and social studies teachers and other useless people in society like the telephone cleaners also join in and pretty soon it’s a cacophony of made-up outrage all specifically designed to communicate itself to the 10-18 female age bracket so THEY start to think boys are all yucky and awful as well. That’s what I mean when I say it will be a success. It just promotes the meme, yet again, via a reminder and its sole purpose is to get publicity, not to achieve anything in particular. That’s the point of it.

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  70. nasska (11,518 comments) says:

    Pia & V2

    The campaign has been kicked off by one “Leonie Morris”. Ref http://www.awc.org.nz/2/staff.php?sid=25&mid=2

    I reckon she’s taken a few good whacks from the ugly stick.

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  71. nasska (11,518 comments) says:

    reid

    Good point. I wonder although whether this is one situation where instinct & a liberal dose of fresh teenage hormones might indicate that nature triumphs nurture.

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  72. reid (16,467 comments) says:

    The worst part is the disgusting disguise nasska which wraps up misandry in the form of feminism and calls it not just acceptable but a “human wight” and at the same time calls any critique of it misogyny. Honestly, if anyone can’t draw the communist connections between what and how feminists preach and practice today, all the time and what the commies used to do, all the time, well, such people are simply idiots.

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