McClay not Mathers

February 20th, 2012 at 1:18 pm by David Farrar

I blogged yesterday a report from Select Committee News that suggested to  Radio NZ at the Commerce Select Committee that they consider charging international internet users of the Radio NZ website. I commented:

This is a very bad idea. The Internet is global and any attempts to charge people based on their location is flawed. It means New Zealanders who are travelling overseas would not be able to access Radio NZ for free. It means expats would be locked off from it. It also would encourage spoofing of IP addresses.

Mojo Mathers has said that she did not suggest that, in fact she asked no questions to Radio NZ. Select Committee News has confirmed they made an error, and the question came from Committee Chair .

Just so people understand, Select Committee News is not published by the Office of the Clerk. It is a private publication that summarises select committee hearings, and puts out a newsletter you can subscribe to. They also provide a subject matter search, so you can get alerts just for your area of interest.

I’ve found to be a hugely valuable resource, and normally highly accurate. The error in this case was seemingly caused by name plates being in front of the wrong MPs, and of course with 35 new MPs, it takes a while for reporters to recognise them all.

I have updated the original post.

UPDATE: Todd McClay has texted:

My question was in relation to possible charges for online content not their normal broadcasters. Ie they have some great series, programmes etc that whilst they should remain free to NZers, as with BBC, could be on a fee paying basis for foreigners. Just as you can buy BBC dvds, or programmes from overseas radio and news services. They have huge amounts of content which is not even digitized yet. 

Good to have the clarification.

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21 Responses to “McClay not Mathers”

  1. berend (1,634 comments) says:

    Why are we playing “guess the party” here?

    Ah right, that’s why.

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  2. Manolo (13,375 comments) says:

    The decent thing to do, DPF. Good on you for correcting the initial mistake.

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  3. labrator (1,750 comments) says:

    The National party really need to get some sort of “youthul”, internet aware MP on-board so they can at least sound remotely informed about it. As much as I think Gareth Hughes is as bad as the rest of the Greens at least he has some understanding of how the internet works and can debate it appropriately.

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  4. mikenmild (10,744 comments) says:

    Ha ha, a lot of comment on the original post was anti-Mathers, anti-Green stuff. I’m sure those commenters will take it nall back now!

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  5. Manolo (13,375 comments) says:

    More ideas about new charges and fees from the party of low taxes, Labour lite? What a surprise!

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  6. Manolo (13,375 comments) says:

    I’m sure those commenters will take it nall back now!

    I sure will. I withdraw my comments.

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  7. EverlastingFire (291 comments) says:

    There was an amusing irony in the original story. Too good to be true, you could say.

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  8. toad (3,669 comments) says:

    Now, correcting the first few comments on the other thread:

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    Peter (671) Says:
    February 19th, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Will Todd McClay be spokesperson on the Kiwi Music Industry next?

    It’s clear he does not understand the internet. No one is going to pay for RNZ offshore. People either won’t bother, or will use a local proxy. And why is he so keen to reduce access, anyway?

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    Manolo (6,172) Says:
    February 19th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    A lunatic idea from a lunatic Luddite. Absurdity squared!

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    tristanb (770) Says:
    February 19th, 2012 at 10:55 am

    Seriously, the Nats portray themselves as the party who is meant to understand the internet.

    Todd McClay seems to know as much about the internet as Clare Curran or Melissa Lee. He’s got these weird ideas which just make things annoying for everyone. What a mean spirited (5 letter word).

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    hmmokrightitis (300) Says:
    February 19th, 2012 at 10:56 am

    Anyone who pays for content these days should be skewered with their own 2 digit IQ. VPN, content, all over rover. Why bother forking out too much money to Sky every month for re-runs when with a little research you can have hundreds of channels, including radio, for nothing?

    So, Todd McClay trys being “commercial” and fails. Do the Nats have any business or commercial credibility?

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    tas (189) Says:
    February 19th, 2012 at 11:02 am

    As an expat, this would piss me off. I can circumvent IP blocking, but it’s a pain nonetheless. I rely on the internet to get access to NZ news.

    What the f*** is his reasoning? Who does he think listens to RNZ from abroad? Is this more xenophobia?

    I’d like to see the Nats advocate cutting off services to people abroad. They might get a surprise when the special votes roll in in 2014.

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  9. MikeG (397 comments) says:

    Good on you for correcting the error, however I find your reasoning for the original mistake somewhat bemusing –
    ” The error in this case was seemingly caused by name plates being in front of the wrong MPs, and of course with 35 new MPs, it takes a while …”
    Note:-
    1. Todd McClay is not a new MP
    2. Given the publicity surrounding Mojo Mathers last week it is hard to see how someone could confuse McClay with her.

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  10. Peter (1,578 comments) says:

    My comment stands. *Whoever* suggested it doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

    I withdraw the attribution to Mathers, of course.

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  11. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    So the problem is that McClay looks like a girl?

    It is nice to see DPF correct the original report and for commenters to withdraw their comments. If this were Red Alert then the post would just disappear in to thin air, like one of Raymond Huo’s did last week.

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  12. Redbaiter (7,632 comments) says:

    “they have some great series, programmes etc that whilst they should remain free to NZers,”

    They are not “free” McLay. They are taxpayer funded. A used car salesman would be prosecuted for trying on an untruth like that. Pity you cannot be as well.

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  13. ben (2,396 comments) says:

    Well done David for posting the correction.

    It’s still a good idea, even if its from T. McClay. It’s bad enough being forced to fund a service run by and targeting champaign sipping liberals and their progressive ideals. Even worse to give it away to the folks who contribute nothing towards it. AFAIK the main argument against McClay’s idea is that folks prefer it when other people pay for a service they enjoy: a principle so sound that when applied generally enough it produces Greece.

    Will all the folks offering their unkind comments about a person who is hearing impaired targeting an audio service be apologising?

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  14. V (668 comments) says:

    Who in their right mind is going to pay for RNZ content at the moment? Is there even anything to sell?
    Perhaps we need some collaboration with the BBC and ABC to learn skills about making programmes people actually will pay money for.

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  15. m@tt (588 comments) says:

    @davidp
    “commenters to withdraw their comments.”
    Surely if the comments were well thought through there should be no need to withdraw them, they just apply to a different party and MP now.

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  16. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    m@tt,

    I agree. My comments were that the idea was technically flawed, not a priority and not in line with previous Greens voting, but that kudos was warranted for:

    1. Identifying a service being consumed and looking to monetise it
    2. Looking to increase govt revenues other than by taxing people more

    And it is warranted – warranted for Todd McClay and National it would seem, not for Mojo or the Greens at all!

    Normal service has been restored

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  17. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    Ha ha, a lot of comment on the original post was anti-Mathers, anti-Green stuff. I’m sure those commenters will take it nall back now!

    Depends on what the definition of “nall” is.

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  18. toad (3,669 comments) says:

    Funny how the comments thread here dries up when it turns out to have been a National MP, and not a Green one, who has exercised extreme stupidity.

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  19. Nick K (1,070 comments) says:

    Um, hang on.

    Charging people if they use something is good, regardless of where they live. DPF says it would mean New Zealanders who are travelling overseas would not be able to access Radio NZ for free. Good! If they’re living in London and not paying tax in NZ they are bludging off those in NZ who are, and the corollary is the NZ taxpayers are paying for freeloaders overseas to listen to it!

    If expats cannot afford a few dollars to listen to the internet, they have gone overseas for the wrong reason. User pays is good. Todd McLay should be encouraging this, and so should Kiwiblog!!

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  20. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    Charging people if they use something is good, regardless of where they live. DPF says it would mean New Zealanders who are travelling overseas would not be able to access Radio NZ for free. Good! If they’re living in London and not paying tax in NZ they are bludging off those in NZ who are, and the corollary is the NZ taxpayers are paying for freeloaders overseas to listen to it!

    Ever heard of advertising revenue?

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  21. Peter (1,578 comments) says:

    Why RNZ when you can BBC?

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