That sense of entitlement
February 10th, 2012 at 9:00 am by David FarrarMatt Stewart at Stuff reports:
He battled for seven years to win compensation – and now a Paraparaumu man has admitted he also spent seven years cheating the state insurer of nearly $86,000.
Simon John Kruidenier, 58, pleaded guilty in Porirua District Court last month to claiming seven years’ worth of weekly compensation payments from ACC while he continued to work as a repossession agent for 11 finance companies.
Kruidenier began receiving compensation in September 2005, paid on the basis that he was unfit to work because of occupational neurotoxicity – a result of his former job as a printer’s assistant.
He said he had developed bad headaches and migraines after working for three years at Porirua plastics and packaging manufacturer Cryovac.
He lodged a complaint with ACC in 1998 – and payments were event-ually backdated to that year – but he failed to tell ACC that he had started working again in 2002.
He kept working while claiming compensation until October 2009, receiving $85,878.99.
So he spent seven years battling to get ACC, and won his case, getting it backdated. And he was a fraud, as he was in fact not just capable of work – but actually working.
In 2005 he told The Dominion Post he had been assessed by six doctors and had been round and round the system since lodging the claim in 1998.
“I have been prodded and poked. They keep contradicting each other – one says yes, the other says no.”
Kruidenier said at the time that his condition was “a hell of a thing to live with”.
He could not work because his health was so unreliable that even petrol fumes or perfume triggered migraines.
“I think ACC is going to be bloody-minded about it. But I can’t quit now.”
So he actually went to the media, trying to build public sympathy for his right to steal money off us.
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February 10th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Also sounds like he went doctor shopping to find one that was willing to give him what he wanted.
Hope he goes to jail.
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 9:34 am
How did he get off with home detention? Why is he not in jail. I reckon 6 months at least.
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Small fry compared with white collar crime, which no doubt DPF will do a piece on in due course…once he stops beneficiary bashing.
[DPF: 20 demerits. Also he was not a beneficiary you idiot - he was working - that was the problem]
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Oh, so pointing out a benefit fraudster is “beneficiary bashing” now? FFS ross.
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 9:58 am
> How did he get off with home detention?
If a former National Party MP and Minister can rip off his employer and not get sent to prison, why should it be different for this guy?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10668683
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 10:20 am
It’s disgusting that you think this sort of thing is okay. That $86,000 is a number of others who can’t have a benefit, it’s important operations, it’s money that an honest man working in a factory had to contribute to.
And I’m sure most people here have as much (if not more) contempt for white collar criminals as you do.
I regard Chris Carter and Philip Field as white-collar criminals. And I detest the property developers like Hotchin who deliberately misled investors. I abhor the left-wing “government guarantee” given to shoddy companies like Hubbard’s (a right-wing government would have let the failing business fail.)
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 11:00 am
It seems the justice system, this time, has lived up to the true meaning of its name.
The man was obviously badly affected by his working environment (I have intimate knowledge of this particular industrial environment) , but those conditions usually disappear in time when one is removed from the factors causing the condition.
Obviously, he should not have continued drawing ACC but sick people often do strange things, including acts of self harm. So while I accept the punishment is apropriate, I also understand that people do these things when under severe stress.
My objection to this posting is DPF’s headline.
I have no idea what this has to do with any sense of entitlement, as we debate the term here and elsewhere, and it is an example of DPF’s blind adherence to his political position (which, ross’s confusion notwithstanding, does include “beneficiary bashing” in the eyes of many readers of this blog, at least, and we should not be bullied into not pointing this out).
In this regard, ross’s confusion was understandable because DPF and his ilk often resort to this term of abuse for those in the unfortunate position of drawing benefits off the state.
So this headline was a projection of a simple case of a sick person falling to the temptation of fraud into the debate rooted in the right-wing objection to welfare – except for the” deserving poor”, of course, where the Right gets to define the definition of deserving.
Singling out vulnerable people for demonisation to support a particular political view is unpleasant and, in my opinion, should be avoided by a prominent blog such as this. It’s happening too often.
Simon did the crime, he’s doing the time, conversation over, surely.
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 11:04 am
Try again Ross.
Vote:The guys a fraudster; treat him as such.
February 10th, 2012 at 11:46 am
@immigant: Agree with you – this fraudster should have been locked up.
Over a period of 7 YEARS, he stole money from the taxpayer whilst at the same time he managed to work OK as a debt collector / repossession agent for 11 other companies. He knew exactly what he was doing and should have been locked up as a consequence of this fraud.
Indeed, I note the article states: “Throughout the time he got compensation, he didn’t declare his employment status or his earnings to ACC, despite signing declarations stating he was aware he must tell ACC of any change in his circumstances that might affect his entitlement”…
I hope the Court imposed a requirement for him to pay back what he stole.
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 11:58 am
ross
Vote:The evil right wing nut job party supports the law
Rodney Hide has emerged as the whistleblower in the $25,000 Roger McClay scandal.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10666888
February 10th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Luc Hansen @ 11.00
Vote:“Simon did the crime, he’s doing the time, conversation over, surely”
Fuck that. The cu*t stole $87000 and got 100 hours com work for it.
Soft cock judge deserve six months for giving such a soft limp wrist sentance.
February 10th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
DavidC
That’s a different conversation.
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
This might provide more insightful assistance.
http://www.nzlii.org/cgi-bin/sinodisp/nz/cases/NZACC/2004/345.html?query=Kruidenier
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
“So he actually went to the media, trying to build public sympathy for his right to steal money off us.”
I see a bright new future ahead of him (after his rehab) as a mentor to the murri grievance industry.
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Mate of mine was in a motor bike accident, broke his back, ended up addicted to pain killers and on the ACC for a couple of years before he recovered enough to be able to work again. He was a bit of a ‘Jack the Lad’, shall we euphemistically say, and didn’t exactly have the cleanest background. While not a crook I wouldn’t call him straight. He was however amazed at the number of people ripping off the ACC. He could regale me with example after example. So many, in fact, that even though this was anecdotal this pretty much convinced me that ACC fraud was probably pretty rife.
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
If I was head arse kicker anyone convicted of any type of benefit fraud would automatically loss the right to any state benefits for the rest of their lives, this includes the pension. Of course Luc and Ross will be now having epileptic fits, tough titties I’m sure benefit fraud would rapidly become a lost art.
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Thanks Nookin – but it isn’t exactly revealing. The prick is a rip off artist and now he has been caught and convicted.
Side show bob – how true. Whilst the limp wristed, bleeding heart soft cocks of the world will moan and wail that criminals should be hugged so they don’t get a chill from their air conditioned cells, the reality is that these pricks are in jail for the simple reason they’re criminals and as such they should lose rights readily available to law abiding citizens.
100hrs CS and 8 mths Home D for this prick, is a joke. What the hell was the Judge thinking?
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
I have known him for well over a decade. Never had trouble filling up his Harley with petrol for those long club rides, no worries mowing the lawns, likes his aftershave and no headaches there. As for how long he has been working, ACC got it wrong, it was longer. Will he have to pay tax on his earnings?
Vote:February 10th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Thanks Kruidenier you prick.
Vote:ACC dumped me and left me without an income for seven months until I was able to work again (spinal fusion)
I nearly lost my house. The claim is still alive after 3 years but it is so much harder to have a legitimate claim approved because of shitbags like you. All I would like is compensation for the seven months recovery.
Thanks Kruidenier you fucking prick
February 11th, 2012 at 10:11 am
David I have good reason 2 believe that the SAS is in your apartment RIGHT NOW :O
Vote:February 11th, 2012 at 10:49 am
What amazes me is that this story didn’t make the news at the time of the conviction and took a tip off to the press for them to act and yet the question has not been asked of ACC why no order for repayment? This guy owns his own home is still getting a benefit he rides a Harley ( so the smell of petrol fumes must be hell for him every time he filled up). Shit he even had the cheek to ride on the protest rides against ACC levies for bike riders :
Vote:The guy milked the system and nothing has really changed for him Still siting on his arse watching TV and getting paid
February 12th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Hogger, you got no idea just how cheeky! Yep always on his arse. Sad for anyone with the same name as him. More likely he watches TV, has a lady friend over, bbq fired up, lunch, more dvds on the plasma TV, but hopefully he cant jump in his spa with his new jewelry on. Story of his life. WTF was the judge thinking? Shit I could do the same,get 8 months paid holiday to spend time on my hobby, clean up the highway weeds for 2 1/2 weeks and its done. $86 grand better off too.
Vote:February 21st, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Hmmm this sounds like a woman thats been scorned. I guess being dumped doesnt sit well with some people.Not nameing anyone but u know who you are, You knew what he was up to but you were more than happy to help spend the government money with him now that you are no longer together you a quick to dog him… As for the comments on this page, i would like to ad its not good what he had done BUT everyone makes mistakes and he is paying for it.. Its not like he raped or murdered someone.
Vote:March 3rd, 2012 at 5:28 pm
damn straight shes a disgruntled ex girlfriend! and she may think shes clever but shes a nobody. to have sympathy for ‘someone with the same name’??? pfft! please! If you gave a damn you would have left well enough alone when he left your sorry ass! what you guys fail to acknowledge is although, eventually, he went back to work there were four years or so in there that he was living without this money. Yes they back paid him but in those four years or so he was raising 3 children and not getting this money. and he is an amazing parent. would give anything for his children. i remember him being sick all the time and having these headaches and migraines. you all think he was ripping the system, ok yes he should’ve stopped it when he started working,there is actually a big part of this where he wasn’t. how about you all have some compassion for his family. his children/ grandchildren don’t need to be reading your hateful words about their beloved father/ opa. as for you ‘luckyone’, you were more than happy to help him spend this money so how dare you try rub his name into the ground. none of this would be happening if it wasn’t for you. trying to hurt him and instead its his family you’re really hurting because it is bloody hard to read shit like this about close family. hence the reason I had to say my peace. it truely is pathetic living your life trying to bring someone down rather than moving on and enjoying what you have
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