That will teach the British
February 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm by David FarrarStuff reports:
Provincial Argentine authorities stopped a cruise liner flying the Bermudan flag from docking in one of the country’s ports on Monday, upping the ante in the country’s spat with Britain over the Falklands.
Britain and Argentina fought a 10-week war over the Falkland Islands in 1982 after Argentina invaded the South Atlantic archipelago, which the Argentines call Las Malvinas. The conflict claimed 900 lives.
Tensions have risen before the 30th anniversary of the Falklands conflict this year and oil exploration by British companies off the islands has raised the stakes.
Bermuda is an overseas territory of Britain, which is why the liner was prohibited from docking in the southern port of Ushuaia, capital of Tierra del Fuego province, state news agency Telam said on Monday.
Stopping a Bermudan flagged cruise liner from docking at Ushuaia sure will punish the UK and teach the Brits a lesson. I expect they will hand over the Falklands this week under that sort of pressure.
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February 28th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
My grandmother was from the Falklands, and we still have strong family links to the islands. The Argentines can fuck off. No one wants them there.
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
the argentinians seem to be quite snobby. they rate themselves highly yet look down on everyone else in the region.
they must love seeing brazil rising to become an economic powerhouse
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
How long until we see Jacinda Ardern protesting against the British occupation of the Falklands (unsanctioned by the Labour Party of course)?
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Argies are kidding themselves they’ve got some cohones now that thatcher’s near death.
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
The argies will keep the pressure on gt Britain forcing HMG to divert scarce naval resources to the south Atlantic which is well outside Britain’s strategic interests. This cannot continue forever. Britain will fold.
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Well this could be interesting if it follows that same path as the 80′s.
The Brits don’t have any carriers in service at the moment, they could dig out the Invincible’s, but I don’t think they have any harriers left to fly off them….
Mind you, the Argies STILL have the same planes they had back then anyway so the half dozen Typhoon’s on the island should more than cope…..
This cannot continue forever. Britain will fold.
Not with the oil find off the Falkland coast – why do you think the Argies have all of a sudden renewed their interest in the island?
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
bevan – cant believe the brits dont have an active carrier!
HMS Illustrious is still around – converted to a helicopter carrier…
theres a 10 year gap between active carriers for them. thats just silly
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Bevan –
The Royal Navy has 7 nuclear-powered attack submarines (and 4 ballistic missile submarines which are probably a bit OTT in this context…)
To date only one Nuclear submarine has ever attacked and sunk an enemy vessel; and that was the British submarine HMS Conqueror during the Falklands war…
All this is to say, there may be other ways of having a war, without necessarily having an aircraft carrier..
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
PIA I doubt it is the demise of Thatcher that is encouraging the Argies. More likely the dissolution of the UK.
It is a little known fact that the only way the Brits could get the Argies to withdraw from Pt. Stanley in ’82 was by putting a lone piper on the hill above the town.
As noted in the historical document at Inutile and Saying It Badly the Argies, on being subjected to this horror, surrendered en-masse to the only Brit left on the Falklands (the Paras having withdrawn hurriedly when the piper started up), a deaf Gunners Mate.
Obviously with the dissolution the Poms won’t have access to a piper.
They’ll be stuffed!
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
HMS Illustrious is still around – converted to a helicopter carrier…
No Harriers though, Sea Harriers decomm’d and the GR5/7/9′s have been sold to the Yanks.
The Royal Navy has 7 nuclear-powered attack submarines (and 4 ballistic missile submarines which are probably a bit OTT in this context…)
To date only one Nuclear submarine has ever attacked and sunk an enemy vessel; and that was the British submarine HMS Conqueror during the Falklands war…
All this is to say, there may be other ways of having a war, without necessarily having an aircraft carrier..
Subs aren’t too great against aircraft..
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Nuclear subs may not be so great against aircraft but I’m sure they could send a cruise missile down the chimney at the presidential palace in Buenos Aires. Pretty sure that would make the Argentinian think again.
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Kirchner must be trying to deflect from some domestic issues.Patriotism and bastions of scoundrels and all that.
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
Prince William is flying search and rescue in the Falklands on a 6 week TOD. He fly a rescue mission a couple of days ago Mind you the SAS and SBS have 25/30 guys there as some protection for him and also for the Islanders. the Poms are wary the Argies are going to make something of the 30th anniversary,
The Argies landed a group on an unihabited island in the weekend to run up the flag like they did before they took Stanley in 1982.
have a look at the Pom papers. they have lots of stuff on it. I always remember the Suns GOTCHA when the Poms sank the Belgrano.
the Argies are kidding themselves. the Poms may not rule the waves like they did 100 years ago but they sure as hell will kick Argie butt if they have to
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Mt – true, that does diminish their sonic offensive capabilities, but they have some resources of their own. Imogen Heap could clear the argies out of the bunkers as well as flamethrower assault
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Sad leftie Sean Penn thinks the UK should negotiate with Argentina.
Sad leftie Sean Penn is a complete wanker with a seedy mustache.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100138740/argentina%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98useful-idiot%E2%80%99-sean-penn-should-leave-hollywood-and-move-to-buenos-aires/
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Good old Britannia may well be going down the gurgler but the argies need the tourist cash more than the Brits need to park their cruise liners there. All the talk about armed retaliation is so much armchair war tactitians oozing unused testosterone from, usually men , folks who got bored by board/war games. Yawn. Whatever.
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
The last Falklands war was very popular in the UK (I lived there at the time) and made the govt very popular. I am sure that any UK PM would jump at the chance to whack the argies again if it presented itself.
Whether they would succeed is a different matter. But the argies are not exactly warriors. Bunch of scared conscripts in fact.
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
All the talk about armed retaliation is so much armchair war tactitians oozing unused testosterone from, usually men , folks who got bored by board/war games.
Except, the President of Argentina – you know, the country doing the vast majority of sabre rattling – is shock horror!!! A woman!
Egad man! Maybe the wench has been downing Tribullis tablets!
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Nuclear subs may not be so great against aircraft but I’m sure they could send a cruise missile down the chimney at the presidential palace in Buenos Aires. Pretty sure that would make the Argentinian think again.
Teh first strike will never come from the Brits.
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
The HMS Dauntless currently steaming it’s way to the Falklands is a technological tour de force capable of destroying multiple targets at once. I suspect this one ship could defend the Islands.
The Argies really need to take a chill. For one the Falklands are 300NM off their coast. The equivalent would be for the UK to calm the Faroe Islands (Denmark) based on geography (or NZ to calm Norfold Is.). And secondly the the Falklands have been British before Argentina was even a country.
They really have some nerve.
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
And thirdly, the Argies should really be in a debt of gratitude to the UK. By winning the Falklands war the UK helped to rid Argentina of it’s military dictatorship. I suspect a great deal more Argentine blood would’ve been spilled if they had a revolution.
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Go away killjoy. I’m having fun here
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Here we go here we go here we go.
The Poms are looking for something to take their minds off their current situation. Lets have a little argie bargie to make the useless dropkicks in the UK feel good.
Fuck off, no you fuck off, no you fuck off, and so it continues
Meanwhile, cup of tea and scones thanks
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Fuck you Mara
There are some fine strategic minds to be found here
We know what is going on
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
>Sad leftie Sean Penn thinks the UK should negotiate with Argentina.
That will have the British government trembling in its boots
PS Sean Penn – wasn’t he famous for something once? Oh yeah, it was for assaulting people.
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Mara, there is a kitchen with your name on it waiting for you. Off you go…
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
All this talk about oil I seriously doubt it. Britain cannot defend their interests in the South Atlantic and the Argies know it. Britain will fold mark my words, not yet but soon.
Vote:February 28th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Argentina in economic trouble? Don’t the twits ever learn. Have another go militarily at the Falklands and they are in for a hiding of the century.
Vote:February 29th, 2012 at 10:07 am
@tvb
Vote:Labour are not in govt in the UK…. so no folding likely
February 29th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
The German lady President Kirchner has an election coming up so she need all the publicity she can get as currently she stands to get beaten.
Vote:February 29th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
as time goes on it’ll be about cash. Isn’t it always?….
Vote:February 29th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Type 45 destroyers are not the sitting ducks the Sheffield & co. were. The likelihood of Exocet air strike success is not as certain as in ’82.
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