Another Hikoi
April 21st, 2012 at 9:52 am by David FarrarAndrea Fox at Stuff reports:
Maori are promising the “biggest hikoi New Zealand has ever seen” following the Government’s second green light for a sale of the 8000-hectare Crafar dairy farming estate to Chinese company Shanghai Pengxin.
I do wish the term “Maori” would not be used when talking about presumably one person or Iwi.
Meanwhile, central North Island iwi who are part of Sir Michael Fay’s court action against the sale have confirmed they are talking to Pengxin in the hope of buying three of the 16 farms from the company.
As one can see, there is far from a common view.
Nigel Baker – who represents a group within the Taupo region’s Ngati Tuwharetoa iwi, which is part of Fay’s group and has met Pengxin twice seeking to buy the 1700-hectare Tauhara Crafar farm – considered ancestral land, said there would be a “very strong” Maori backlash against the latest land sale to foreigners.
But details of the protest action, which would be against the wider sovereignty issue of the sale of land to foreigners, were still secret, he said.
“This is an issue for all New Zealanders. It will be the biggest hikoi this country has ever seen.”
What a wonderful idea. A hikoi to allow Sir Michael Fay to buy up farms on the cheap.
Related posts:
- Who is the buyer and the seller?
- Fay loses on Crafar farms at Court of Appeal
- Winston’s dilemma
- Crafar deal ordered to reconsideration
April 21st, 2012 at 10:00 am
Among our small band of billionaires, Fay is now something of a pariah.
At least two privately (well, sort of) regard his actions as “cheapskate opportunism” that simply provides the left with an opportunity to trash private enterprise.
But I know from conversations with them that neither ever anticipated Fay would get into bed with the Sutch/Lewin-like xenophobic left wing.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 10:08 am
“It will be the biggest hikoi this country has ever seen.”
Even bigger than this hikoi?
Or is it the same one, gathering anti of the day sub clauses?
And they don’t even seem to be sponsored by Tui.
An indication of the massive level of support – there were two comments about it on http://thestandard.org.nz/join-the-hikoi/
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 10:13 am
Correct me if I am wrong but these farms are already owned by foreigners. Namely Westpac Bank. Aren’t they Australians? Fucking Xenophobes.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 10:15 am
“considered ancestral land”
So, not actually their land then.
I “consider” my neighbour’s house to be my concern. There will be a backlash if he sells it to a dirty foreigner.
Big meeting in the pub, everyone.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 10:23 am
Oh goody, another lynch mob.
Vote:Who are we targeting this time?
The Chinese?
April 21st, 2012 at 10:24 am
wat dabney: Very good! I am actually most upset that my first house recently changed hands for almost ten times what I paid for it in 1981. I am considering seeking compensation, since the buyer clearly ripped me off.
As someone has said on GD, this “biggest hikoi the country has ever seen” will likely consist of the usual suspects such as Bradford and Minto, and 500 smelly phools who have little else to do.
Brian Smaller: I am not particularly keen to have large swathes of farmland owned by a Chinese corporation, but you make an excellent point. There is clearly no substantive difference between a Chinese Corporation and an Aussie bank
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 10:29 am
I may be dismally ill-informed and seek correction, but are the Crafar farms not in receivership to Australian banks and therefore in ‘foreign’ hands already and so the hikoi against this is may be in the wrong country?
And if this is untrue, that present ‘ownership’ of the farms is not Australian, how does that differ from the proposed Chinese ‘ownership’?
[and, by the way, what the fuck is Constitutional Transformation – apparently seen by the Standard as an 'on the same bandwaggon' issue ?]
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 10:38 am
Hikoi? that’s so – 1980′s
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 10:41 am
Yvette: I think you will find that “Constitutional Transformation” refers to enshrining te tiriti o Waitangi as our written consitution. Which, to any law student who has actually read a country’s written constitution, makes about as much sense as God botherers who say if we passed the ten commandments as laws, we could repeal all the rest.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 10:46 am
Why did they not buy them ( the couple of farms in question ) when first advertised by Bayley’s on behalf of the receivers ? Maybe they did put in an offer and it was not accepted which means they did not value their ancestral lands high enough.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 10:50 am
Maari marching for more hand outs from the tax payer….
Who would have thunk it?
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 10:53 am
from http://thestandard.org.nz/join-the-hikoi/
Every day has at least one town marching, with the big ones:
Tues 24 April: Kaitaia march 11am
Wed 25 April: Whangarei 3 pm
Sat 28 April: Auckland 3 pm at Britomart
Sun 29 April: Rotorua 3pm
Wed 2 May: Palmerston North 11 am
Thurs 3 May: Porirua 12 noon
Fri 4 May: Te Papa to Parliament
Following that there is a week of protests on various Government policies in Wellington:
Sat 5 May: Rally and Free Concert
Sun 6 May: Constitutional Wananga
Mon 7 May: Say no to Deep Sea Oil demo
Tues 8 May: Say no to Coal Mining demo
Wed 9 May: Say no to Welfare Reform demo
Thurs 10 May: Say no to Privatisation demo
Fri 11 May: Say yes to Constitutional Transformation demo
So this whole fucking thing is going to be about as coherent as Farthing Dim’s OCCUPY AUCKLAND
Vote:– and likely as effective …
OCCUPY WHAT WAS IT?
April 21st, 2012 at 10:57 am
I would be in favour of giving the land to the Chinese for a $1 to stop Fay from getting his hands on the properties .. he would hire graders to dig up the paddocks and ship them to some island somewhere in the world that is a tax haven.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 10:57 am
I am ***so sick*** of hearing about the Crafar farms.
Vote:They’ve been sold. The deal is done. Get over it, Maori and everyone else.
April 21st, 2012 at 11:06 am
Could someone inform Andrea Fox (as DPF points out) that her using the term Maori encompasses all, she is incorrect (surprise) I need her told that my kids will not be attending as they have school.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 11:15 am
Here are the endorsements, groups supporting the ‘hikoi’
The New Zealand Labour Party
The New Zealand Green Party
The Mana Party
The Unite Union
Maritime Union of New Zealand (MUNZ)
Actors Equity
New Zealand Nurses Organisation
Greenpeace
Global Peace and Justice Auckland
The Hikoi to Stop Asset Sales
Socialist Aotearoa
http://aotearoaisnotforsale.com/category/support/
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 11:22 am
Other_Andy – but but but “they’re a non-political group”.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 11:22 am
what would be fantastic is to hear Fay missed the bid by $20mil .. I mean, if he didn’t DONATE that amount to the Govt a year or so ago, he could have included it in the bid
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 11:23 am
That’s a rather interesting list there Other Andy, I see the usual Useful Idiot Unions & Groups listed there … but NZ Nurses Organisation? Have they been hi-jacked by militant activist unionists? Might be time to shine some light on them to see why on earth a health union would get involved in such nonsense (because I bet you its members don’t have any interest nor the time to indolge in such fringe causes).
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 11:26 am
In June 2007, Midavia paid $20 million[5][6] to settle insider trading proceedings relating to Tranz Rail. The commission stated that the payments had been made “without any admission of liability”. The settlement is the largest of its kind ever seen in Australasia
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 11:44 am
@niggly
And where are the New Zealand Meatworkers Union, the PPTA and the NZEI?
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 11:46 am
Maori are promising the “biggest hikoi New Zealand has ever seen”…
Whitey is promising to tell them to get fucked.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 11:51 am
You’d think Actors Equity would keep their heads down after the shame and ignominy they heaped upon themselves in trying to drive the Hobbit out of New Zealand for the benefit of their Australian masters. Idiotic puppets.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 11:51 am
DPF and @Pauleastay correctly identify the lack of substance to Andrea Fox’s article in Stuff, in particular her use of the generic “Maori” to illustrate one person’s opinion. Andrea Fox also attempts to link the Crafar Farm sale with a separate issue, Asset Sales, which is already attracting public attention. The article is poorly written due to it’s ambiguity.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Hope its not raining on the Hikoi days.
Vote:But Greenies look athe the petrol that will be used during the “march”.
Many of the cars used are real fuel guzzlers, except the Union leaders new cars.
April 21st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
what a fuck load of wasters. If Maori are so upset with ancestral land being sold up why don’t they use some of their treaty settlements and put in a bid to buy a few properties. No, a fucking site easier to wail and beat our chest’s, cry crocodile tears and claim the government are evil right wing baby eaters. And whats wrong with all these lefty bullshit artists pooling their money and buying a farm, I thought these commie a holes were into collective farms, this sort of thing should be up their ally but no, that would be way to hard, some might actually have to work.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 2:45 pm
I cannot wait for this one. There will be the usual rental crowd of course. But Maori want a deal including paying off the taniwha, evil spirits, Uncle Joe Cobbly and all. We know this well.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 2:55 pm
Perhaps “biggest” means “fattest”
Lampton Quay McDonalds is on the route…..well positioned.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 3:58 pm
OK, so let’s look at this dispassionatly for a moment.
The farms are being sold to a chinese consortium.
Taiwan is settled by Chinese
Genetic evidence has proved conclusively that polynesians are descended from Taiwanese ancestors.
Maori are Polynesians.
So, if the problem is that Maori desire the lands to be returned to Maori, it can be safely assumed that they actually already have been, in a round about sort of way. So why the need for a Hikoi, or should we call it a Long March?
Long March? That sounds catchy!
(I apologise in advance for the Philu like nature of the preceeding post, but it seemed a little more organised that way, less the anoying inaccurate punctuation, of course! Ni Hao and Haere Mai!)
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 4:22 pm
I think people are Hikoi’d out. Perhaps participants can be greeted by WINZ staff who will check for those on a sickness benefit.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
David Garrett (1,403) Says:
April 21st, 2012 at 10:24 am
Brian Smaller: I am not particularly keen to have large swathes of farmland owned by a Chinese corporation, but you make an excellent point. There is clearly no substantive difference between a Chinese Corporation and an Aussie bank
Ah David you haven’t learnt anything. There is a vast difference between 1000′s of years of culture and
Vote:Austrailanoops ex English Convict colonies, Bankers.April 21st, 2012 at 4:31 pm
cows4me (101) Says:
April 21st, 2012 at 12:37 pm
what a fuck load of wasters. If Maori are so upset with ancestral land being sold up why don’t they use some of their treaty settlements and put in a bid to buy a few properties.
haha, some of them have wasted most of it already. oh and the rest are working at it.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Viking: Very good…now am I having a senior moment, or did the Crown pay Tainui twice in the early 90′s becoz they wasted most of it on bad investments in short order?
If they did, that makes THREE “full and final” settlements for Tainui, TWO for Taranaki (with a third coming up if my memory serves me correctly re Tainui in the 90′s) and no less than FOUR for Ngai Tahu….at least the last mentioned seem to have got their act together and shouldnt need to trouble the public purse again for a good while…
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 5:24 pm
“..(I apologise in advance for the Philu like nature of the preceeding post..”
the truism is true that imitation is the most sincere of compliments..i feel..
..i see you have learnt the first lesson..
..to let yr words/ideas breathe…
..well done..grasshopper..
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I think this hiccup-thing is a great idea.
Once they’ve walked the length of the North Island they should then go walk to China, then across China, then maybe Russia followed by Iceland and the Arctic, Canada, North America, Central America, South America and then Antarctica, upon which they can return to NZ and start all over again.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
@MT_Tinman
“I think this hiccup-thing is a great idea.
Once they’ve walked the length of the North Island they should then go walk to China, then across China, then maybe Russia followed by Iceland and the Arctic, Canada, North America, Central America, South America and then Antarctica, upon which they can return to NZ and start all over again.”
Nah, one way to Pyongyang.
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 6:01 pm
Actors Equity???? What on earth has this got to do with the actors? Perhaps Robyn is just a bit miffed that Lucy is getting all the attention at the moment
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Nice to see Murri going for a long walk. Most of them are obese!
Vote:April 21st, 2012 at 8:33 pm
As Yvette said earlier, this reminds me of the whole “Occupy” movement. The breathless excited pronouncements that “Occupy” would be the biggest thing EVER; it was a world-wide movement that would change the world; the 99% were rising up (which I STILL object to – in continuously claiming to represent the 99%, they were effectively stealing my voice. No, you smelly hippies, you DO NOT represent me. If ever I want someone to represent me, I’ll sort it out on my own, thank you very much)
Occupy – the movement that changed the colour of the grass where they squatted, but not much else …
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 9:49 am
Pakeha are vowing to do their grocery shopping this Saturday, says Andrea Fox!
I agree the monolithic descriptors are getting a bit tiresome.
And if the hikoi has as much support as the last one, fronted by Mr. “Let’s beat up a guy with an arm in a sling”, I doubt it will inconvenience much traffic on Molesworth Street.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Well I don’t think I have ever seen so many racist dim wits concregated in one place at the same time.
Vote:You go on in here about Xenophobia, maybe you should try cleaning up your own back yard.
Before you all “assume ” and jump to all the wrong conclusions (that I am a maori who has snuck in the back door yes hum sir)as you lot are obviously prone to do.
I am an over 60 pakeha so best we not play the race card.
I will make an (assumption) sic that a high percentage of the people posting here are still wet behind the ears, middle /upperglass pakeha, born with a silverspoon in their mouths, who have had minimal if any contact with maori who think that is is worldly and shows a high level of intelligence (so becoming of your private school education) to slag off,undermine, maori for everything and anything that is flavour of the month when really all it does is highlight your not so high intellect and when all said and done bottomline is >>>>>you are bigots.
April 22nd, 2012 at 5:24 pm
Oooo, Elaine, touch a nerve did we?
For the record, I have no Maori blood at all, but I have Marae affiliation. I live and work with Maori from all Iwi. I have Maori neices and nephews, and feel as at home on a marae as I do anywhere else in New Zealand.
I have never been to a private school, nor have I any wish to, and I have no formal education past secondary school.
I also know that a great many Maori in New Zealand see a lot of money and lands coming back to Iwi and Hapu for the benefit of all Maori, yet do not see a single benefit. Some of the most successful Maori I know are those who have moved to places like Sydney and Perth, divesting themselves of so many tribal affiliations that do nothing but stifle their desire to advance. I know that many maori are hindered in their future, but I also know a great many successful Maori!
There are bigots out there Elaine, I’m not one of them.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Elaine, I know it is a very popular tactic among people of a certain political persuasion (those that also tend to use class warfare rhetoric as you have), but simply labelling everyone you disagree with a “racist” adds not one iota of legitimacy to your arguments, and neither does the fact of whatever ethnicity you happen to identify with.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Whatever it is, just give it to the Maoris.
You know they deserve it.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Hi Right of way is Way of Right and adze I don’t think I named anyone in particular I was really just assuming sic ( to assume makes an ASS out of U and ME )and making a generalization sic much like a large percentage of the above posts.If you get my drift.
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