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I have decided to simply ignore philu today, unless he makes an effort to grow up and act like a mature adult – yeah, can’t see that happening.
I highly recommend others to do the same. Let’s see if he gets the message that petulant immature posturing is not particularly becoming in a 60-year-old man.
Key suggests doing nothing.
David Shearer suggests manual labourers should get super sooner.
The Maori Party says Maori should get super sooner. They have a shorter life expectancy.
“..The forthcoming biography of Barack Obama by Davd Maraniss already grabbed the nation’s attention with accounts of the President’s former girlfriends -
- and now even more so as details of his pot-smoking past in Hawaii have emerged.
As it turns out, Obama wasn’t just an occasional smoker -
- but part of a legitimate crew of marijuana enthusiasts (he and his friends called themselves the “Choom Gang” –
Here’s a story you won’t hear much of because it doesn’t fit with ‘the official western narrative’:
A Pakistani doctor was jailed last week for alleged links to a banned militant group – not for helping the CIA to track down Osama Bin Laden, the text of the trial court’s judgement shows.
Whether it is true or not is another matter. Who knows?
Using their logic, lets allocate a tick for each box… Labourer, tick…. Maori, tick… Male, tick… And lets add smoker for measure, tick!
So we have a male Maori labourer that smokes. You can retire at 45! Mind you, if you’re getting $30 ph as Willie Jackson wants to, you could save quite a bit towards your retirement. And yeah, my tongue is firmly in my cheek.
Instead, they have pitched in another idea: that bright sunshine – or the lack of it – is to blame for variation in swing.
“When the ground heats, it makes convection currents which make the air rise off the cricket pitch – that creates turbulence in the air on a sunny day,” Dr James explained.
“On a cloudy day you get stiller air, because you don’t get these convection currents coming off the ground.”
So there you go. Cloud + still conditions = swing.
Ah, sorry, I see immigant was talking about Pete’s link.
I think United Future’s approach actually has some merit. Allow people to take superannuation at reduced rates from an earlier age, although I worry about the costs of that.
So what’s the demographics for Pacific Islanders? I assume they also have a lower life expectancy.
And does it work in reverse for those people who are lucky enough to have a higher life expectancy? Will the Asians in our country (who I assume would have a higher life expectancy) be told they can’t get Super until they’re 75?
I bloody hope not either KS. Maybe both these parties need to focus their attention on why Maori do die younger… Frying everything in sight and drowning it in cream sure in the hell doesn’t help.
There’s also problems with determining manual labourishness (I manually labour in the weekends) and Maori-ishness etc etc. Should someone with a terminal illness immediately qualify?
Picking short lifers is unworkable. That’s why providing a choice is a better approach, but it’s not without some difficulties either. It’s been criticised for discriminating against the poor.
A reprise (worth pondering) on the Budget and MSM attitudes, from Chriss Lee and Partners, May 28:
“Budget – Thanks to an invitation from the ANZ bank … I attended a post budget presentation by the Minister of Finance, Hon Bill English.
“English is a very good presenter, which made it all the more disappointing for me when shortly after leaving the presentation I experienced both radio and television media zero in on a light hearted moment for a misleading headline.
“When asked by the floor about protests and criticisms about the budget his response was that in his experience reactions had been fewer than ever before in his time as MOF and that perhaps students might learn something from the vigor of Greek student protests.
“This drew a laugh, as you would expect. That was the intention.
“The media however, presented this humour as evidence that the MOF viewed students as greedy and unworthy of more generosity from the government. It was absurd that this moment should reach the headlines or be twisted the way it was.
“If such behaviour had been witnessed of a financial adviser, the Financial Markets Authority would have been knocking on their door with allegations of ‘deceptive and misleading’ before the sun went down.
“Perhaps the media were frustrated by the lack of big headline grabbing changes in the budget.
“Anyway, I didn’t start this paragraph to waste 160 words on media performance.
“Contrary to the headline hunters I was impressed with the budget. It is more about adjusting the attitudes of the nation and making progressive structural change than throwing money round or trying to hit home runs to satisfy the electorate.
“There are no ‘short term fixes’, just leadership on necessary strategies for long-term improvement.
“John Key, and his cabinet, recognise that making significant changes over short time frames is hugely disruptive to a population and therefore to the economy. A government is much more likely to succeed with its goals if it takes us all with them via progressive change in the direction that they perceive to be best for the nation, overall.”
Hmnnn… Never agreed with chrissie wussie before. But perhaps we could add RM (red melons), GF (greenfax), Dk (mallard)
LH, P(w)H, MM and SC, to the list.
I would not object to FLIP, and I doubt there would screams of outrage from DPF.
Phil; I don’t swear often, but bugger off; your obsession with David Garrett has long since become tiresome, and you ruin this post day after day with your smears and hypocrisy. Do us all a favour, before DPF bans you for eight months.
So many Asian men are heavy smokers I doubt whether they will have a longer life expectancy. Chinese have a tendency towards stroke but with all the smoking they greatly increase their heart disease rates…Funny how so many heavy smokers are allowed to move here when Tariana is on her smoke free campaign , but then as Treasury so tactfully put it , many smokers never live long enough to incur national super..
I query all these figures because different things have been said over the years..Anyone know any facts?
Yeah, not too sure joana – so far as I know, stats in New Zealand are gathered for Maori and non-Maori, male and female, rich and poor. In other words, no other nationalities.
If you have a floating rate mortgage, try twisting your bank’s arm. Right now is a great time to haggle with them. A colleague at work made a couple of phone calls and got 1% shaved off his mortgage on the first phone call without really trying. He’s now phoning around other banks to see how good a deal he can get.
“..PHILLIP URE…former armed robber, long term beneficiary, and now by his own admission, the holder of at least two identities and the documents to establish them! ..”
(and..)..”..I know how utterly maddening the brain damaged runt is! It’s OK! We all feel your pain…we are all sufferers of “philophobia” (def: ‘a passionate dislike of parasitic leeches who presume to lecture others on their failings and past mistakes; a condition where one is unable to control a compulsion to try and show parastic leeches the errors of their ways or positons’ )..”
(and..)
“..Brain damaged or mentally ill ..”
so..y’know..you really are just blowing it out yr butt with yr ‘poor garrett’..eh..?
Phil… I’m no ones pet. And as I said before, at no time has your record been accessed by myself. I initially attempted to converse with you, I held no judgement. You however suggested that I’m a masochist wanting to re enact white settler, dusky maiden fantasies. Racist and sexist, much?
You continue to address me with a abuse, even when I don’t even post or address you…
Phil… Again, I invite you to make a difference to the lives of those you say you represent, you tirelessly work towards informing them towards a better life. Come to South Auckland.
Come and meet the single parents that are working their butts off to provide a better future for their kids, and tell them they are abandoning their children by working. Come tell the low income families that it isn’t ok for them to slog their guts out to send their children to private schools, that they are sell outs. Come call some 6 foot plus 120 kilo PI that eating meat is wrong and he should embark on a vegan diet…
Because you know what’s best for us, Phil. Seeing as you’ve been to uni and all. And we’re just dumb brown chil’ens that don’t know any better.
Speaking of not holding back, it seems the Polish Foreign Minister and Prime Minister have had a gutsful of the moron known as President Obama and are demanding something a little more meaningful than a rote apology from some administrative flunky – White House shrugs off Polish apology demands:
“I am convinced that our American friends can today allow themselves a stronger reaction than a simple expression of regret from the White House spokesman — a reaction more inclined to eliminate once and for all these kinds of errors,” Tusk told reporters in Warsaw.
“Today, this is a problem for the reputation of the United States,” the prime minister said.
No kidding. Foreign Minister Sikorski had preceded this statement with his own:
“The White House will apologize for this outrageous error,” Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski tweeted. Sikorski said that Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk “will make a statement in the morning. It’s a pity that this important ceremony was upstaged by ignorance and incompetence.”
Hardly a surprise though, given the degree of ignorance and incompetence that exists in the Obama administration.
The whole kerfuffle started when Obama gave a speech celebrating the awarding of the Presidential Medal of Freedom to a now-deceased Polish war hero who personally got word of the Nazi death camps to FDR during WWII, after witnessing what was happening first hand.
In his written, teleprompted speech, Obama referred to the “Polish Death Camp”. This was no off-the-cuff remark to reporters in a press conference. It’s incredibly bone-headed and stupid. So much for “Smart Diplomacy”.
We seem to have had a whole spate of left-wing leaders over the past few years who have been hailed by left-wing commentators are “brilliant”, “smart”, “informed”, “subtle”, yada, yada, yada. In Australia it was the Mandarin speaking genius that was Kevin 07, preceded by the nearly insane Mark Latham who was lauded in his day, followed by the working class barrister, Julia, who combined working class grit with high IQ and solid leftist credentials. In Britain it was Tony Blair in ’97, then Brown who were hailed as tough, smart hombres: at least in Blair’s case that proved true, but did not save him from condemnation when articulate smarts chose war in Iraq.
And of course in the US it was “the smartest President ever”; Obama, the guy who claimed that he was smarter on policy than his policy wonks, a better speechwriter than his speechwriters, and might even be a better Chief of Staff than the ones he hired (I see he’s now claiming that he knows more about Judaism than any other President). What an arrogant putz.
The scales seem to have fallen from lefty eyes on a lot of other issues about Obama, so has it yet happened with regard to his intelligence? Or are lefties still willing to claim – in the face of yet another incredibly stupid, offensive blurt from Obama, following on from several years of such – that he’s smarter than the villified moron, GW?
Whether lefty opinions about Obama’s intellectual capabilities (not to mention his “gifted” oratory) have changed I can bet that it won’t stop the next left-wing leader who emerges anywhere, from being hailed as the new genius. It seems to be a feature of left-wing ideology: no wonder every communist regime has developed a cult of personality.
It’s not super annuation as one does not contribute directly to it. So before you talk about who can draw it and when ,why don’t you get that straight first?
It’s a non contributary state (taxpayer funded) old age pension.
I don’t much like the politics of Radio NZ’s “National” Programme.
However, I was saddened this morning on its news to hear it joining the TV emotion vultures by broadcasting the grief stricken murmurings of the parents of the triplets killed in the Middle East fire.
If anyone needs a shield to grieve in privacy away from the ears and eyes of a morbid public, it is these parents. After sweet talk from a reporter, they might be persuaded to believe what they are doing in crying to the reporters is the right thing to do. But surely they are too vulnerable to make a reasoned, independent choice so soon after their family tragedy.
In my view what Radio NZ “National” did this morning, and what TV and the rest of the MSM are doing, is catering to the low human instinct that had crowds waiting to watch the guillotine executions in the French revolution. Many of the women waiting knitted between “chops”.
Radio “National” with its funds from the taxpayer, doesn’t need to descend to this.
Aw tom, mething you doth protest too much. The slip ‘Polish death camps’ really leads you to doubt the President’s intellectual capacity? Not just blinded by faux ideological hatred? Nearly as funny as calling Obama ‘left wing’. Why don’t you just denounce him as a ‘socialist’ as well and go completely over the edge?
Oh god, another candidate for RIP, and I see WeeklyWorldNews is as smart as ever: “midterm” elections are so-called because they are in the middle of the Presidential elections, of which 2012 is one.
Folks, I have decided to simply ignore philu today, and highly recommend others to do the same. Let’s see if he can get the message that petulant immature posturing is not particularly becoming in a 60-year-old man.
Mikey: Polish death camps is not actually a slip…some of the worst death camps – I think maybe even including Auchwitz? – were in then-occupied Poland. They certainly are “back” in Poland now.
Saw a short snip of footage of little kids showing their tattooed arms on the History channel last night…even after seeing the same clip 1000 times it is still horrific isnt it?
Someone give you 100 lines for encouraging the leech?
I agree with your approach, though. I wish others would do the same. I do not have much time to post but read GD regularly. The last weeek has been one big bore and waste of time. It is hard to believe the wasted space taken up by the resident abuser.
Steve (North Shore) posted about gen4energy last night on GD. I found it very interesting. One question, though (I know very little about nuclear energy in general, so bear with me) – what happens to the waste? That is what chiefly worries me about nuclear energy.
All I could see on the site is that after operating for ten years, the system is allowed to cool for one to four years, and then returned sealed to the assembly facility. So I assume there is still some form of nuclear waste to be disposed of?
Whereas you would not have reached the same conclusion had it been Bush who uttered something that dumb? And of course we actually do have a very comparable example from history, in the “slip” that President Ford made about the Poles in a 1976 debate with Jimmy Carter – and we all know how high the left-wing’s regard for Ford’s IQ was.
In any case I don’t judge the man on a mere “slip” from a free-wheeling press conference or interview; all politicians have such moments. But this was a prepared speech, added to other such events like as “corpseman”, referring to the Falkland Islands as the Maldives, and countless others.
Come on milky: imply once again that you’re balanced, fair and objective by telling me that you think Obama is as smart as a whip.
P.S. I love the he’s not a real left-winger/socialist nonsense that gets trotted out every time one of these lefty heroes is found to have feet of clay. As it went with Tony, Gordon, Kevny, and now Julia.
Jack5 at 1028 posted his disgust about the way RNZ broadcast “the grief stricken murmurings of the parents of the triplets killed in the Middle East fire”
Yes, we heard that too, and join Jack5 in condemning such lowest-common-denominator blatant appeal to the sensitivities of its listeners.
When we hear an interviewee reduced to tears we imagine the radio news staff and reporters in the studio high five-ing each other for having reduced the subject to on-air sobbing.
Unfortunately this broadcasting of the sobbing breakdown of some unfortunate or other who has suffered a mighty personal blow is becoming, or has become, all too common.
I’m reminded of the old saying that “Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel”
Well in this case, broadcasting the tearful sobbing of a victim is the lowest level or ‘Last Refuge’ of public broadcasters lacking the professional ability to air more appropriate and sensitive coverage which protects the dignity and privacy of the victims whilst informing the listening public.
Its an easy cop-out for a lazy broadcaster who is apparently incapable of presenting news in a manner that doesn’t rely for impact on such gimmicky elements as tears.
If tom had provided actual evidence of Obama’s intellectual inability, rather than trot out some speaking errors, that might be the basis for a debate. Any evidence that Obama is a ‘left winger’ could also be entertaining. Or he could just stay with ‘Obama is a Democrat, so there must be something really wrong with him’. You must be quite tempted to join the birthers.
don’t get me started on that effete/over-used/simpering excuse for punctuation…
..it should be banned forthwith…
..if we talked like the number of commas overused by most in their writing..pausing for each of the cowering-imperatives..we would be talking like staccato machine guns…
“.. and stripped capital letters of their rights…”
..what ‘rights’..?..the capital letter is a class-riddled consolation prize for the peasants…
….it’s ok..you aren’t one of us..a sir or a lord…but you can call yrslf ‘mister’…(with a capital letter of course.)…there you go peasant..be happy with yr false honorific…
..and they had to be used at the beginning of sentences..because of the cost of paper…
..with internet white space a gloriously huge area to gambol in…that imperative has also now gone…
..and in fact..you will find that every capital letter…is utter bullshit…and not needed..
“..Jack5 at 1028 posted his disgust about the way RNZ broadcast “the grief stricken murmurings of the parents of the triplets killed in the Middle East fire”..”
i have found the television coverage of this tragedy to be some of the worst tragedy-voyuerism i have ever seen…
Jack5 and Akaroa: I agree. Journalists seem to feel it necessary to hound victims and their families at their lowest, most vulnerable points, and it is wrong. We can imagine their grief, we don’t need to see it in glorious colour and listen to it in high fidelity.
I wonder how often people ask to be left to grieve in private, and are simply ignored, all for the sake of ratings?
Due to the short life expectency of Maori men who die earlier than Euro men consideration should be given to establishing a fund that will allow Maori to access super earlier. I would set up a fund that Maori contribute to and call it Maorisaver and operate it along the lines of Kiwisaver.
The fund would be kick started by whanau ora and Maori will contribute and self fund this super initiative.
An MP was speaking. some chick. had no idea who she was or what party. she started OK. then became one of the most over expressive smug b*tches ive ever seen.
the sort of persona that would appeal if you were on her side. but if you were in the middle or the other side its just off putting.
it turned out to be some labour hack called Moana Mackey.
Bhudson, fact is they’re as bad as eachother, but each side’s respective supporters are only able to see the mote in their adversary’s eye rather than their own’s plank.
Partisan conditioning or human condition – take your pick. (or take the piss like I do)
Dime: well, if one was a cretin without the most basic knowledge of 20th Century history one might thing the POLES had set up death camps…mind you, when senior New Zealand students arent really sure which side NZ was on in WW II, and the best guesses are “the Americans?” then I guess you might be right…
“…when senior New Zealand students arent really sure which side NZ was on in WW II, and the best guesses are “the Americans?” then I guess you might be right…”
That mentality is not surprising -
The NZ Left always wanted a ‘war on religion’ but when it finally came time to fight it, they refused, knowing that they’ed have to fight on the side of NZ – and G W Bush.
Kevin H
More information on where all the Whanau Ora money is coming from would be appreciated? Is is being taken from health , education budgets..See my comment yesterday in the article re Winston questioning the 5 million spent last year on ”Family reunuions.” Separatism is the high road to nowhere.
However, I note many of the liberals so concerned about the right of homosexuals to adopt children do not have the same concern about the sexual abuse of a 14 year old girl by a number of adult males who CYF and the Family Court have protected.
It will be interesting in the near future to find out who the counsellor is as well as a well known TV presenter.
However, I note many of the liberals so concerned about the right of homosexuals to adopt children do not have the same concern about the sexual abuse of a 14 year old girl by a number of adult males who CYF and the Family Court have protected.
How do you “note” that Chuck? I don’t see any comments on that story, or any thread here on KB, where “many of the liberals so concerned about the right of homosexuals to adopt children” state that they are not concerned about that case. Are you keeping the evidence to yourself for some reason?
Here is my Open letter to John Key about his trip to Europe where he wants to get first hand knowledge about the financial situation. I argue he already knows and should keep our tax money where it belongs; here in New Zealand instead of gallivanting all over the place finding out shit he already knows .
I note many of the liberals so concerned about the right of homosexuals to adopt children do not have the same concern about the sexual abuse of a 14 year old girl by a number of adult males who CYF and the Family Court have protected
Nah Chuck, it’s just that some liberals can smell crap, unbalanced sensationalist reporting from a mile off.
I suspect the ‘CYF approved councellor’ and CYF themselves have a very different take on what actually happened.
That’s not to say the councellor didn’t fuck up (they should all be registered) but let’s wait for the whole story to come out eh?
Is not it a criminal offense to have sex with an underage girl?
would not this so called councilor be liable for aiding and abetting a criminal offense?
Why no referral to the police? why no arrest for statutory rape?
cyfs is one sick organization if this has occurred as reported
Caught a bit of “willie & JT” at lunch time. Apparently if 60k has been wasted in whanau ora then its just a “blight”. Course if it was anything to do with national or act they would be “rotten mongrels” and williw would get in something about “john keys mates”.
anyway,
they talk about how much work they do in south auckland and west auckland etc good for them. the programs sound quite good. my question though:
whanau ora is maori only?
do any other poor people have any programs like this? or is it race based charity and help?
Sounds like someone is just desperate to play the deligitimisation game – which is why the Obama campaign wet themselves with delight when Trump hosted some fundraiser for Romney the other day. By contrast, being associated with Al Sharpton or Corzine is apparently not something that Obama has to disavow. In short, the issue is not one of political correctness but the double standards applied, to whit:
If tom had provided actual evidence of Obama’s intellectual inability, rather than trot out some speaking errors, that might be the basis for a debate.
My point – which I’m absolutely sure you get, and hence want to avoid – is that “speaking errors” were absolutely taken as evidence of Bush’s intellectual capability. But somehow Barakus Pompus gets a pass even from left-wingers who claim to have no time for him. That’s my bone of contention. He gets a pass because even if he is a turncoat it’s still absolutely vital that he be seen as a smart, informed guy – because that’s how left-wingers see themselves, and the people they vote for. Anything less than smart might be seen as a reflection on their own intellectual capabilities – and we can’t have that can we?
Any evidence that Obama is a ‘left winger’ could also be entertaining.
Oh milky, you’ve been dancing around this forever on this blog. I can think of several ways in which it could be argued that Obama’s not a left-winger, but they all turn on the usual rat-swallowing that happens in politics. I’d much rather hear from you why he’s a nae a true Scotsman, as the saying goes.
Strangely, that’s a hard question to answer. http://www.tpk.govt.nz/en/in-focus/whanau-ora/ defines Whānau Ora as “an inclusive interagency approach to providing health and social services to build the capacity of ALL New Zealand families in need. It empowers whānau as a whole rather than focusing separately on individual family members and their problems.”
So on the one hand it talks about all NZ families … but on the other specifically talks about whānau. Since I have family, not whānau, I guess that lets me out.
But anyway, browse around a few places and you find statements such as “He Korowai Oranga (Māori Health Strategy) defines Whānau Ora as Māori families being supported to achieve their maximum health and wellbeing”. I’d say it’s a safe bet that you have to be Maori to access it.
“..The use of cannabis is associated with lower mortality risk in patients with schizophrenia and related psychotic disorders – according to a forthcoming study to be published in the Journal of Psychiatric Research. (Read the abstract of the study online here.)
An international team of investigators from the University of Maryland School of Medicine and Inje University in South Korea assessed the impact of a lifetime history substance use on mortality in 762 subjects with schizophrenia or related disorders.
Researchers reported, “[W]e observed a lower mortality risk-adjusted variable in cannabis-users compared to cannabis non-users – despite subjects having similar symptoms and anti-psychotic treatments.”
Authors speculated that the association between marijuana use and decreased mortality risk may be because “cannabis users may (be) higher functioning” -
- and because “cannabis itself may have some health benefits.”
They concluded: “To our knowledge, this is one of the first studies to examine the risk of mortality with cannabis and alcohol in people with PD (psychotic disorders).
This interesting finding of decreased mortality risk … in cannabis users – is a novel finding..”
Oh, tom, you are the master of the non-answer. So you were among those ridiculing Bush? If not, then I fail to see how you could play that game now. Unless you want to say Bush misstatements = intellect, Obama misstatements = ignorance.
You keep calling the Domcrats left wing and i’ll just keep pointing out that they’re well to the right of the National Party
@ dime continued: There are, of course, loads of initiatives for poor people, but yeah … Whānau Ora are race based. Along with:
- Te Mangai Paho (Maori Broadcasting, supporting 21 Māori radio stations and Māori TV)
- the Māori Potential Fund (which is about realising Māori Potential or Māori succeeding as Māori, in order to better position Māori to build and leverage off their collective resources, knowledge, skills and leadership capability to improve their overall quality of life)
- The Whānau Integration, Innovation and Engagement Fund (WIIE), which is available to help whānau move to greater self reliance and self management by strengthening whānau connections and engagements, developing whānau leadership, and building whānau knowledge, skills and capabilities to achieve their goals and aspirations
- The Māori Business Facilitation Service, which provides advice and guidance to new and existing Māori businesses. Available to those who are of Māori descent.
- The Māori Education Foundation, which awards scholarships to Maori
… and probably quite a few others.
Now, that as such doesn’t worry me. But I do get rather exasperated with those dicks that claim Maori are disadvantaged, without pointing out all the ways that they actually have quite a few advantages and headstarts because they are Maori.
Being unable to recognise irony, I was inclined to give tommy the benefit of the doubt when he raised Obama ‘Polish death camps’ line and linked it to an assessment of his intellect. No I’m just not sure whether tommy believes Obama is stupid and the quote was evidence of that, or he believes he is stupid, but doesn’t have any evidence. It’s interesting; a while ago he was calling Biden the dumbest VP ever, similarly without any evidence.
Maybe tommmy should just stick to “Democrats bad, nyah, nayh, nyah”.
graham – i hope you dont need whanau ora services!
i sit and listen to willie and jt speak about all they do for maori to help them. i wonder if they ever consider that they and their kind are half the problem?
constantly telling maori they arent good enough and the education system is failing them.
constantly telling them they have been ripped off and are owed something etc etc
maori in aussie seem to be doing so much better
is that because the good ones left?
or they just dont hear the bullshit, dont become obsessed with shit that happened two centuries ago and just work like normal people?
graham
I do get rather exasperated with those dicks that claim Maori are advantaged, without pointing out all the ways that they actually have quite a few disadvantages and sometime need headstarts because they are Maori.
Maybe tommmy should just stick to “Democrats bad, nyah, nayh, nyah”
Adding that to -… blinded by faux ideological hatred? – I suppose I should stop milky in his tracks by stating that I have always thought of Bill Clinton (Democrat) as a very, very smart guy. He must be curled up in the fetal position by now at the sight of all this, not to mention Hillary’s reaction.
Admittedly that line of argument will probably cut no ice with milky since Clinton is also considered a right-wing, sell-out so it could be said that I’m merely approving of another ideological soulmate.
But back on point: I’m using the same standards for Obama/Biden that were used for Bush and Quayle.
mike – without pointing out all the ways that they actually have quite a few disadvantages and sometime need headstarts because they are Maori.
examples?
can you give me maori specific examples? why its harder to be maori in trying/awful circumstances than it is to be tongan? samoan? indian? white? jewish?
Is all the money spent on the stone age culture actually doing any good are the statistics improving is there actually proof that the effort that has been put into Maori from the eighties making a change
doubt it some how why would those on the gravy train actually make a difference it would do them out of their cushy jobs
If it has made a difference I am sure that it would be held out as a reason for more funding
bet you
crime statistics as percentage of offenders has got worse
percentage on benefit has got worse
more Maori kids been beaten to death
more failing school system
Etc Etc Etc
go on apologists for colonialism prove me wrong please
“Chuck, I follow that programme as assiduously as I follow ‘(x country) Idol’ or ‘MasterChef (x country)’”
And liberals like you call me a bigot.
I just heard from a very good source who the well known TV presenter who also had sex with this girl.
If this becomes public which it may in the near future we may see an investigation into CYF, the Family Court, YouthLaw, Office of the Children’s Commissioner and a few other organisation which helped in a cover up of the sexual abuse of a 14 year old girl.
Many helping in the cover up were liberal who support the undermining of the family unit.
..what did the poms contribute..?..morris-dancing..?
That’s a joke, right?
Look out your window Phool. Can you see a city, with power and water reticulation and sewage services, roads that you have right of passage on, a stable system of laws and government, and myriad taxpayers all working hard to support your carefree dole bludging existence?
The English brought all that. Show a bit of respect, you worthless POS.
kowtow, I have no problem with giving Maori a helping hand if they need it. Just be nice to hear some of the whingers acknowledge the help they are given, rather than continually complain.
It would also be good to see something being done to ensure that the money being spent is having some positive impact. For example: There is a wide range of early childhood education services available in New Zealand, including kohanga reo which you would think would encourage Maori to enrol their children, right? Wrong. Participation rates for Maori children are lower than those for non-Maori.
(Note I’m looking at some old stats here, so if that’s changed please feel free to correct me.)
So why aren’t Maori using these services? Shouldn’t we look at whether we’re getting a ROI, and if not think about what needs to change? By all means keep these services going, but don’t just throw money in to a bottomless pit if it’s not working.
Yeah, sure tom, it really hurt to hear Dan Quayle or George Bush called stupid, so that make it a good idea to call names in return? I’m sure that nastiness only ever came from one party. If you do think some politicians are stupid, you might want to give examples, or people might think that you don’t actually believe it, but just want to indulge yourself in a bit of abuse.
Um, I understand that. I was just wondering whether you actually thought Obama was stupid, or just abusing him because other people had called Quayle and Bush names in the past.
“..When you set a positive roll (sic) model to you (sic) children as I do..”
so..a homophobe..and a racist…is ‘a good role model’..eh..?
right ho..!
(did you not see the earlier link i posted showing a church full of christians ecstatically cheering a small boy singing:..’no homos are going to heaven’..
..a sentiment you wd agree with…eh..?
..do you forget that you have preached homophobia and racism since forever..on this site..?
Chuck, I also mentioned the story on yesterday’s GD thread around about 5.30, but I’m not sure if anyone saw it..
It is bad, to be sure.
It’s all been happening the past few weeks: politicians giving their (private) blessing to gay marriage, a guy wanting to marry twins, and now a worker from a Govt organisation giving the OK to sex with a minor.
Chuck Bird- In the past few months he has accused me of Racism, Bigotry, Benefit Fraud, Beating my wife, Alcoholism, White Trash’ism, Being a Criminal, Being a Skinhead, Being a member of a Political Party, and even being a Politician (possibly the most horrendous allegation of them all…)
Don’t hold your breath for an apology mate- Just enjoy the fact that you are way, way higher up the food chain than this horrible parasite….
Anyone else notice that the resident leech, knowall got more and more strident throughout
the day as he was ignored, untill about 3.00 pm when he lost it and began screaming
for attention.
Chuck Bird saved him from having a breakdown.
Well done Chuck.
Question is, why would anyone solicit an opinion from, or ask a question of, a bludging loser knowall ?
I missed this from RRM: Sorry I’ve been away for a few days (We’ve just had a baby.)
Congratulations, I hope you at least agree with me on this, that having your own is as good an achievement as you can hope for – and it relegates the niggles here into relative irrelevance.
If posts start appearing in the middle of the night we’ll know what’s up.
Philu- I have only ever repeated what you have told us yourself about you and your son.
That you love smoking Pot, think it is the ‘wonder drug’ and that you and your son get together regularly and have a hearty old laugh at us “rightwingers”…(who incidentally pay for your drug-fuelled worthless existence)
Well – David Garrett @ 4.06pm said it all. I especially loved the “Ah fuck Chuck! Whaddya doing??”
I must confess, I’ve been annoyed by bereal’s daily complaining about the same thing, over and over, but not any more. Bereal – i’m a convert & to hell with tolerance.
Please People – don’t talk to it, don’t talk about it, don’t give it oxygen & it might go away!
Travellerev @ 12:27 – I have survived the ordeal of reading your Open Letter to John Key.
Whatever may be your day job, I suggest that you refrain from giving it up in favour of a career in political commentary.
Your attempts at humour were as weak as any that I have read on a blog in a very long time. (Only that sustained air of intellectual superiority was capable of raising a chuckle.)
I will follow the recomendations as well, even though I don’t like being told what to do. I did not think enough people would do the same and ignore the thing, but it looks like I was wrong.
Bit like a Union thing really.
DPF, you have a strike on your Blog!!!
I have not spent much time on this Gen4 reactor stuff. It seems that the final disposal at the refining plant is not clear. Quite understandable, the idea of every nutbar nuclear bomb wannabe maker having this information is suppressed for security I guess.
Any energy generation will have a waste product which will include the materials to implement the plant. The main thing is that this ‘toxic waste’ came from this planet. It came out of the ground, so it can go back into the ground just like ‘shit’ does
Anyone been following the education staffing debacle? Just listening to the latest installment on Checkpoint. I mean d’oh.
Parata is one of the Nats most capable female ministers. She’s ahead of Bennet and just below Collins. And what does Key do?
Gets all girly when the media starts picking up on the loose end as per the opposition’s neighing and opens the door to admitting the policy as announced in the budget is too harsh. Fucking der. The only reason you’d do that is if you wanted this policy to become the bone that distracts the idiot media who go away and gnaw at it because you know there’s a real stinker of a policy that the idiots haven’t noticed yet. But I know that’s not the case. The reason I know, not think, but know, is cause I know the Nats aren’t clever enough to do that. This is genuine.
I mean I’m a conservative so yay the Nats but FFS. Shaking my head over this idiocy, which was all so unnecessary in the first place.
They’re all mental, and I’m sick of it. Why can’t we get a decent govt.
I wish we could bring dead people back to life. Some of our dead politicians could really fix this place up. It’s quite obvious it’s beyond those living, today, now.
I once tried to read some of the crap posted by trivialrev and ended up flagging it. It wasn’t just the jaundiced, left leaning propaganda, bullshit and conspiracy theories that put me off, it was also the poor grammar / poor comprehension and generally poor form.
Given the choice (at gunpoint) of spending time with either Philu or Bereal at a ‘male only’ sweatlodge I think I might have to choose Phil (Don’t get any ideas Philu…smoke all the herb you want to suppress those urges!)
Bereal’s recent alleged cat-killing spree has some serious alarm bells ringing…
Hydro is the best cheap green energy
Guess what the latest watermelon crusade is
Ban new hydro power
Luddites and loons!
And nuclear In new Zealand yeah right
Racist
Wiki
“Racism is generally understood as either belief that different racial groups are characterized by intrinsic characteristics or abilities and that some such groups are therefore naturally superior to others, ”
OR
“Practices that discriminate against members of particular racial groups, for example by perpetuating unequal access to resources between groups”
Someone has to ask questions once on a while.
Ideal opportunity for an colonial apologist to get their “the fact’s”across.
And I do not have the band width so I was trying to get luc or MM to find links while I was working.
That’s right phil, she said it on a blog. Social media. Ergo, it must be true. Crikey.
BTW, how’s your sick fuckness going, or don’t you want us to talk about that, tonight? Just asking. Casually. (i.e. I don’t want a big drama about “how dare you, you …. etc etc etc) Just a simple “it’s fine thanks” is ok – I wasn’t really that interested anyway. Isn’t it funny. Sometimes with this blogging business you just don’t know if you’re typing or merely thinking to yourself, do you now…
??
Hydro is the best cheap green energy
No it’s not it’s getting all the green party members to furiously peddle to power generators for the rest of us, so we can be warm and cosy, while they peddle to keep warm and then eat some hay and other vegan crap. That’s the best cheap green energy.
But the big lesson for the day boys and girls!….Yes! If you annoy him, his activity is less! (someone who is more of a geek than me can anaylse yesterdays responses vs. todays)… good, innnit!!
sorry…Freudian slip…”annoy him” shoud have read “ignore him”…
Yes I assumed that was what you meant Dave. I assumed that was your equivalent of Einstein’s cosmological constant which he later proclaimed as the error of a lifetime. Good on you for picking up on YOUR error within a few minutes, he took a bit longer.
Still here? Well, they say that the real plebs just never get it…dragged up as we were, Mater taught us from an early age to detect when we had overstayed our welcome…
I was listening to Willie Jackson yesterday offering the line of the Tuhoe raid shouldn’t have happened but rather the local cops sent in to talk to Tama Iti. I don’t agree with the proportion or the style of the raid, I think it had a distinct ‘message’ to the local population that was one that contained an implicit menace. But after reading the sentencing judgement that F E Smith linked earlier in the week, if the local cops had ‘warned’ Tama Iti by asking him what was going on with the training camps – I’m sure the first thing he would have done was hide the firearms. Maybe the local police weren’t trusted, I don’t know. But any hint that there was surveillance surely would have resulted in hiding the firearms?
So who here thinks, as a fellow conservative, we should press the govt to pass a law requiring all Gween party members and possibly Gween potential and present voters as well, to install pedal-powered generators in their homes hooked up to the national grid?
The plus side is, it gives us lots of free warmth, for nothing. No more expensive gravity and water business.
The down side is, some people who aren’t at all like us in any way, might not be happy.
What is the blog wisdom on this critical issue?
Nostalgia, of course. Duh. This is what really fucks me off. All the lefties in the world are desperately searching for reasons the cops were unreasonable but the more they think about the facts, the less reason they find. And the fucking media, doesn’t change its propaganda line, notwithstanding.
Especially if these pedal powered generators can be made out of wood & recycled plastic bottles. On balance although I would prefer that they walked the talk & demonstrated their commitment to the environment by permanently disconnecting from the grid.
This, plus their unwillingness to send carbon up a chimney, should weed out all but the healthiest Gweens by the end of winter.
“He agreed to convict the pair and discharge them without further penalty as long as they made a donation of $200 to the city’s Maori Women’s Refuge over the next three weeks. ”
What? Why should the Maori Women’s Refuge get special treatment over and above any other organisation that needs money?
Just saying
Elaycee, let me try that here:
for a smile: type : then type ) (no space), to get
for LOL: type : then type D (no space) to get
for ‘Heh’: type : then P (no space) to get
Hope it works when I press the “Submit Comment” button, because it doesn’t work in the draft comment!
Chuck you missed by a mile. Sex in public was not my point, the point was who decided where the donation was going? Was it the Judge, family member, the Police, the Council.
There seems to be some interference on money being paid in a certain direction.
I have to work tomorrow but maybe someone who has the time can join the dots as to who is connected with those involved
It’s just a storm in a teacup. Why, if the woman had been five years younger CYPF would have paid for a counsellor & everyone would have had their names suppressed.
I will follow the recomendations as well, even though I don’t like being told what to do.
Fair enough, and I am certainly not trying to preach to anybody. I simply decided to ignore philu today, to see if he can work out that at 60 years old he should really try acting like a mature adult. I will probably try to ignore him tomorrow, as I suspect he hasn’t got it yet. But it’s certainly not my place to tell anybody else what to do.
RRM – congratulations! Welcome to the joys of sleepless nights!
Ah yes Jimmy things were so much better then when the Raj ruled the jolly old British Empire!
I actually think the UK learned a great deal from their rule of India. It was both the platform which both made and broke the empire in many many fascinating ways.
I mean when they first went in, how the fuck do you even rule such a populous sub-continent? I mean you get 20-something sub-lieutenants in charge of 10,000 square miles of territory with no wireless comms and huge tribal insurrections with the signals dept consisting of nothing but jungle drums and horse relays. And out of all of that the Brits managed to pull together what we saw in all the colonies. Stable centralised decision-making, stable institutions establishing first, the rule of law and second, justice, stable consistent education, etc etc etc.
It’s absolutely amazing what the Brits of just 150-200 years ago achieved, given the attitudes of today’s generation who would probably collapse in 5 mins if the internet went down and they couldn’t post on Facebook or interact with “the cloud.”
It’s a bit of a worry, isn’t it.
P.s. I think the “right” smiley is a personal decision Johnboy. A bit like trousers. Does it feel right? If so, you just don’t even need to think about it ever again. If not then you can’t stop thinking about it and can’t wait to take them off.
Some have said my smile is better when my trousers are down Jimmy!
However, perhaps we should bring back the old post of District Officer, where a jolly old public schoolboy had the power of life and death over the fuzzie-wuzzies.
Would do wonders for law and order in say Cannons Creek or Hillary Court Naenae!
Graham
Its called strokes
Normal people get it from a positive experience,hug or kiss,inclusion,praise, presents ,etc
For some some people the only way to get strokes is from what most would call negative experiences. In many this is a learned response.
Others get their interaction by being bullies It bolsters their ago gives them power.
It is not hard to see the preferred method for this phenomenon in some people. …
A parliamentary report published today says that a lack of self esteem is damaging a generation of children who may struggle with school work and forming friendships.
All children could now attend body confidence and self esteem classes at school.
And now calling someone ‘fatty’ should be deemed a hate crime, these MPs say.
The Government should consider putting ‘appearance-based discrimination’ on a legal par with race and sexual discrimination, the report suggests.
I mean everyone knows, don’t they, that 5 year olds simply obsess about their appearance. Every single 5 year old I have ever known has done nothing but preen themselves in front of a mirror and fretted endlessly about how best to rid themselves quick smart of their “stupid” “baby” “fat.” This is just natural thinking for all we humans after all, so naturally the only thing to do is get with the program and get the law involved, with hate crimes. What else could possibli happen? Surely there is no other solution to this travesty? Of course there isn’t.
perhaps we should bring back the old post of District Officer, where a jolly old public schoolboy had the power of life and death over the fuzzie-wuzzies.
You mean this was abolished at some point Johnboy? The folly of man, eh. What the hell were we thinking, at some point in the past? Well, some of us, anyway. What hath we they wrought? Oh the humanity!
Of course public schoolboys should have power over the fuzzy wuzzies. How else are they ever going to learn responsibility and compassion?
Yes LJ I was going to include a whole smegging lot of palaver about how this is a written median and the only way to represent the nuance of communication.
Is at times ridicule anger or derision and the rest of the non verbal communication displays we exhibit.
IT becomes offensive when it is ongoing prosecution of that emotion. for others as it becomes embarrassing to witness the corrupt exchange.
Griff like everyone else on Earth, of course I understand the secret agenda for a global state: a world govt; world central bank; world army imposing the will of the world govt; world currency and a micro-chipped population linked to a global computer. I mean it’s quite obvious, isn’t it. How come others don’t see it as well?
What I don’t understand is, how come I have this overwhelming urge to grow a small toothbrush-like mou and shout maniacally into the mirror at imaginary crowds?
Hope you can help, before I do something silly. Thanks in advance.
You Goodwin to lightly Master
Plugged into the matrix And the whole left wing dispersed in a puff of smoke
We are too ver reid know Master and all think they are the only true sane one and there comes a point where some will die for that right it
There can be only one
seriously LJ I call occums razor
There are all sorts even legendary Nas t timber is out there somewhere
Not every one is plumed in and ready to go do you think you are?
We had Pike River, the Canterbury earthquakes and looming on the horizon is Meguploads potential to sue the Taxpayer for appaalling behavoir of our Govt. Agencies.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:01 am
The glory is mine.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:03 am
Bask in it while ye may …
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:06 am
I have decided to simply ignore philu today, unless he makes an effort to grow up and act like a mature adult – yeah, can’t see that happening.
I highly recommend others to do the same. Let’s see if he gets the message that petulant immature posturing is not particularly becoming in a 60-year-old man.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:13 am
Key suggests doing nothing.
David Shearer suggests manual labourers should get super sooner.
The Maori Party says Maori should get super sooner. They have a shorter life expectancy.
Using that logic, should women be eligible for Super later than men?
Or should we just cut the politics and work together on a solution? Cross party and cross blog perhaps.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:18 am
(this is very funny..)
http://whoar.co.nz/2012/president-obamas-marijuana-smoking-past-gets-the-taiwanese-animation-treatment-video-ed-heh-this-is-very-funny/
“..The forthcoming biography of Barack Obama by Davd Maraniss already grabbed the nation’s attention with accounts of the President’s former girlfriends -
- and now even more so as details of his pot-smoking past in Hawaii have emerged.
As it turns out, Obama wasn’t just an occasional smoker -
- but part of a legitimate crew of marijuana enthusiasts (he and his friends called themselves the “Choom Gang” –
- with specific pot-smoking rituals -
- (they often hot-boxed the “Choom Wagon”)…”
(cont..)
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:21 am
Here’s a story you won’t hear much of because it doesn’t fit with ‘the official western narrative’:
Whether it is true or not is another matter. Who knows?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:26 am
NZ is becoming more and more Racist. Fucking race based super!!!???
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:28 am
immigant, got a link? I haven’t heard about this.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:28 am
Pete G,
Using their logic, lets allocate a tick for each box… Labourer, tick…. Maori, tick… Male, tick… And lets add smoker for measure, tick!
So we have a male Maori labourer that smokes. You can retire at 45! Mind you, if you’re getting $30 ph as Willie Jackson wants to, you could save quite a bit towards your retirement. And yeah, my tongue is firmly in my cheek.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:29 am
http://whoar.co.nz/2012/vegan-recipes-22-new-ideas-photos/
“..Not eating meat doesn’t mean foods have to be boring and flavorless.
Vegetables, grains and other forms of proteins can make wonderful meals when you have the right roadmap to prepare them.
For our friends who exclude all types of animal products from their diets – we’ve assembled our favorite vegan recipes.
Below you’ll find all types of wonderful main dishes, including stir-fries, stews, curries, sautes and burgers.
The recipes use mainly tofu, seitan, tempeh and legumes in place of meat – and are also packed with vegetables.
And the most important part is they all have lots of flavor.
Whether you’ve been adhering to a vegan diet for many years – or are just making the switch – these recipes are sure to inspire you to get cooking…”
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:30 am
Graham, both Mana and Maori party wish to introduce it. Because Maori don’t live as long.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:33 am
For those interested in cricket:
Swing bowling not due to humidity, research suggests
So there you go. Cloud + still conditions = swing.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:33 am
Ah, sorry, I see immigant was talking about Pete’s link.
I think United Future’s approach actually has some merit. Allow people to take superannuation at reduced rates from an earlier age, although I worry about the costs of that.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:34 am
“wish to introduce it” being the operative words Wahine; they don’t have a snowball’s chance.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:36 am
So what’s the demographics for Pacific Islanders? I assume they also have a lower life expectancy.
And does it work in reverse for those people who are lucky enough to have a higher life expectancy? Will the Asians in our country (who I assume would have a higher life expectancy) be told they can’t get Super until they’re 75?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:36 am
I bloody hope not either KS. Maybe both these parties need to focus their attention on why Maori do die younger… Frying everything in sight and drowning it in cream sure in the hell doesn’t help.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:37 am
Now there’s a radical thought, Northland Wahine – address the root cause of the issue …
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:39 am
There’s also problems with determining manual labourishness (I manually labour in the weekends) and Maori-ishness etc etc. Should someone with a terminal illness immediately qualify?
Picking short lifers is unworkable. That’s why providing a choice is a better approach, but it’s not without some difficulties either. It’s been criticised for discriminating against the poor.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:41 am
Hmm…not a bad idea.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:42 am
A reprise (worth pondering) on the Budget and MSM attitudes, from Chriss Lee and Partners, May 28:
“Budget – Thanks to an invitation from the ANZ bank … I attended a post budget presentation by the Minister of Finance, Hon Bill English.
“English is a very good presenter, which made it all the more disappointing for me when shortly after leaving the presentation I experienced both radio and television media zero in on a light hearted moment for a misleading headline.
“When asked by the floor about protests and criticisms about the budget his response was that in his experience reactions had been fewer than ever before in his time as MOF and that perhaps students might learn something from the vigor of Greek student protests.
“This drew a laugh, as you would expect. That was the intention.
“The media however, presented this humour as evidence that the MOF viewed students as greedy and unworthy of more generosity from the government. It was absurd that this moment should reach the headlines or be twisted the way it was.
“If such behaviour had been witnessed of a financial adviser, the Financial Markets Authority would have been knocking on their door with allegations of ‘deceptive and misleading’ before the sun went down.
“Perhaps the media were frustrated by the lack of big headline grabbing changes in the budget.
“Anyway, I didn’t start this paragraph to waste 160 words on media performance.
“Contrary to the headline hunters I was impressed with the budget. It is more about adjusting the attitudes of the nation and making progressive structural change than throwing money round or trying to hit home runs to satisfy the electorate.
“There are no ‘short term fixes’, just leadership on necessary strategies for long-term improvement.
“John Key, and his cabinet, recognise that making significant changes over short time frames is hugely disruptive to a population and therefore to the economy. A government is much more likely to succeed with its goals if it takes us all with them via progressive change in the direction that they perceive to be best for the nation, overall.”
Interesting!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:43 am
Or A for Asians or W for women?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:43 am
Shock after counsellor approves underage relationship
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/shock-after-cyf-counsellor-approves-underage-relationship-4904575
Some fuck wit lawyer aided and abetted ths sexually abuse of a 14 year old girl.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:47 am
how about a ‘d’ for dickheads…?
..and shouldn’t ex-mp crims have to warn as well..?
..maybe a ‘g’..?
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:54 am
Yeah I saw that story too Chuck. I see another teen applying for benefit in the near future.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:58 am
Hmnnn… Never agreed with chrissie wussie before. But perhaps we could add RM (red melons), GF (greenfax), Dk (mallard)
LH, P(w)H, MM and SC, to the list.
I would not object to FLIP, and I doubt there would screams of outrage from DPF.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:59 am
Phil; I don’t swear often, but bugger off; your obsession with David Garrett has long since become tiresome, and you ruin this post day after day with your smears and hypocrisy. Do us all a favour, before DPF bans you for eight months.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:01 am
So many Asian men are heavy smokers I doubt whether they will have a longer life expectancy. Chinese have a tendency towards stroke but with all the smoking they greatly increase their heart disease rates…Funny how so many heavy smokers are allowed to move here when Tariana is on her smoke free campaign , but then as Treasury so tactfully put it , many smokers never live long enough to incur national super..
Vote:I query all these figures because different things have been said over the years..Anyone know any facts?
May 31st, 2012 at 9:06 am
well stock..as i retaliate..and everyday is not groundhog day…(see yesterdays’ thread..)
..maybe you should address that request to him..?..to his ‘obsession’…?
..to his ‘smears and hypocrisy’…?
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:08 am
Yeah, not too sure joana – so far as I know, stats in New Zealand are gathered for Maori and non-Maori, male and female, rich and poor. In other words, no other nationalities.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:19 am
If you have a floating rate mortgage, try twisting your bank’s arm. Right now is a great time to haggle with them. A colleague at work made a couple of phone calls and got 1% shaved off his mortgage on the first phone call without really trying. He’s now phoning around other banks to see how good a deal he can get.
Also see:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10809729
“Banks go to war on mortgages”
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:22 am
(for stock:..from last night..)
“..PHILLIP URE…former armed robber, long term beneficiary, and now by his own admission, the holder of at least two identities and the documents to establish them! ..”
(and..)..”..I know how utterly maddening the brain damaged runt is! It’s OK! We all feel your pain…we are all sufferers of “philophobia” (def: ‘a passionate dislike of parasitic leeches who presume to lecture others on their failings and past mistakes; a condition where one is unable to control a compulsion to try and show parastic leeches the errors of their ways or positons’ )..”
(and..)
“..Brain damaged or mentally ill ..”
so..y’know..you really are just blowing it out yr butt with yr ‘poor garrett’..eh..?
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:28 am
Cyfs is a corrupt organisation.
After watching close-up last night.
Cyfs are basically protecting the rights for adults to have sex with children.
Everyone should watch it. I still cannot believe CYFS would behave like this.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:31 am
So the Maori party want super earlier cause they die younger.. they cant stand the fact that they are missing out on that extra bit of free money???
Dimes counter – maori contribute far less to the tax take so fuck em
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:32 am
Don’t hold back there, dime, just say what you think
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:36 am
so..k.s…just getting a fix on yr position here:..
..so it is ok for rightwing scumbag/douchebags to make up/say whatever they like/attack my child..
..phone winz every few days.with ever-escalating hysterical accusations against me…
..get his pet/tame winz employee to mount a jihad against me…
..but i should just shut up..eh..?
..fucken dream on sailor..!
..eh..?
..that poisonous/lying little fucken oink deserves/asks for all he gets..and more..
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:59 am
http://whoar.co.nz/2012/global-co2-emissions-hit-new-record-in-2011-keeping-world-on-track-for-devastating-11%C2%B0f-warming/
“…The scientific literature now makes clear that even 7°F warming would destroy the livable climate 7 billion people have come to depend upon…”
(cont..)
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:00 am
Phil… I’m no ones pet. And as I said before, at no time has your record been accessed by myself. I initially attempted to converse with you, I held no judgement. You however suggested that I’m a masochist wanting to re enact white settler, dusky maiden fantasies. Racist and sexist, much?
You continue to address me with a abuse, even when I don’t even post or address you…
Phil… Again, I invite you to make a difference to the lives of those you say you represent, you tirelessly work towards informing them towards a better life. Come to South Auckland.
Come and meet the single parents that are working their butts off to provide a better future for their kids, and tell them they are abandoning their children by working. Come tell the low income families that it isn’t ok for them to slog their guts out to send their children to private schools, that they are sell outs. Come call some 6 foot plus 120 kilo PI that eating meat is wrong and he should embark on a vegan diet…
Because you know what’s best for us, Phil. Seeing as you’ve been to uni and all. And we’re just dumb brown chil’ens that don’t know any better.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:00 am
OMG, yet another thread hijacked by this psycho.
DPF, perhaps a daily posting limit would be handy?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:12 am
oh..?..so now i’m a racist..?
that’s a new wrinkle..
one to add to the living in a bat cave/eyes that glow at midnight -collection..
(and as an aside..given the obesity epidemic amongst p.i’s…
..them all going vegan would solve that problem in one fell swoop..
..you can’t see that..?..)
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:16 am
Speaking of not holding back, it seems the Polish Foreign Minister and Prime Minister have had a gutsful of the moron known as President Obama and are demanding something a little more meaningful than a rote apology from some administrative flunky – White House shrugs off Polish apology demands:
No kidding. Foreign Minister Sikorski had preceded this statement with his own:
Hardly a surprise though, given the degree of ignorance and incompetence that exists in the Obama administration.
The whole kerfuffle started when Obama gave a speech celebrating the awarding of the Presidential Medal of Freedom to a now-deceased Polish war hero who personally got word of the Nazi death camps to FDR during WWII, after witnessing what was happening first hand.
In his written, teleprompted speech, Obama referred to the “Polish Death Camp”. This was no off-the-cuff remark to reporters in a press conference. It’s incredibly bone-headed and stupid. So much for “Smart Diplomacy”.
We seem to have had a whole spate of left-wing leaders over the past few years who have been hailed by left-wing commentators are “brilliant”, “smart”, “informed”, “subtle”, yada, yada, yada. In Australia it was the Mandarin speaking genius that was Kevin 07, preceded by the nearly insane Mark Latham who was lauded in his day, followed by the working class barrister, Julia, who combined working class grit with high IQ and solid leftist credentials. In Britain it was Tony Blair in ’97, then Brown who were hailed as tough, smart hombres: at least in Blair’s case that proved true, but did not save him from condemnation when articulate smarts chose war in Iraq.
And of course in the US it was “the smartest President ever”; Obama, the guy who claimed that he was smarter on policy than his policy wonks, a better speechwriter than his speechwriters, and might even be a better Chief of Staff than the ones he hired (I see he’s now claiming that he knows more about Judaism than any other President). What an arrogant putz.
The scales seem to have fallen from lefty eyes on a lot of other issues about Obama, so has it yet happened with regard to his intelligence? Or are lefties still willing to claim – in the face of yet another incredibly stupid, offensive blurt from Obama, following on from several years of such – that he’s smarter than the villified moron, GW?
Whether lefty opinions about Obama’s intellectual capabilities (not to mention his “gifted” oratory) have changed I can bet that it won’t stop the next left-wing leader who emerges anywhere, from being hailed as the new genius. It seems to be a feature of left-wing ideology: no wonder every communist regime has developed a cult of personality.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:18 am
Wahine…Wahine….everyone else was doing so well!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:18 am
It’s not super annuation as one does not contribute directly to it. So before you talk about who can draw it and when ,why don’t you get that straight first?
It’s a non contributary state (taxpayer funded) old age pension.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:19 am
Obama said “Polish death camps”!
I’m stunned.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:22 am
Obama cancelling 2012 elections (Ron Paul getting too hot?)
http://weeklyworldnews.com/politics/21883/obama-cancels-midterm-elections-2/
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:26 am
Mr Garrett… I’m using the excuse I’m poorly so… Neer neer neer…
And back to our normal transmission…
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:28 am
Private grief as public theatre.
I don’t much like the politics of Radio NZ’s “National” Programme.
However, I was saddened this morning on its news to hear it joining the TV emotion vultures by broadcasting the grief stricken murmurings of the parents of the triplets killed in the Middle East fire.
If anyone needs a shield to grieve in privacy away from the ears and eyes of a morbid public, it is these parents. After sweet talk from a reporter, they might be persuaded to believe what they are doing in crying to the reporters is the right thing to do. But surely they are too vulnerable to make a reasoned, independent choice so soon after their family tragedy.
In my view what Radio NZ “National” did this morning, and what TV and the rest of the MSM are doing, is catering to the low human instinct that had crowds waiting to watch the guillotine executions in the French revolution. Many of the women waiting knitted between “chops”.
Radio “National” with its funds from the taxpayer, doesn’t need to descend to this.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:30 am
You mean you thought what he reads from the autocue, actually travels through his brain before he speaks the words?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:34 am
James,
When you put it like that …
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:34 am
Aw tom, mething you doth protest too much. The slip ‘Polish death camps’ really leads you to doubt the President’s intellectual capacity? Not just blinded by faux ideological hatred? Nearly as funny as calling Obama ‘left wing’. Why don’t you just denounce him as a ‘socialist’ as well and go completely over the edge?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:35 am
Philu posted at 10.12:
Well, a grammar racist, Phil.
You’ve enslaved fullstops and discriminated against commas, and stripped capital letters of their rights.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:38 am
Obama cancelling 2012 elections …
Oh god, another candidate for RIP, and I see WeeklyWorldNews is as smart as ever: “midterm” elections are so-called because they are in the middle of the Presidential elections, of which 2012 is one.
FFS. Idiot and Idiots.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:38 am
Folks, I have decided to simply ignore philu today, and highly recommend others to do the same. Let’s see if he can get the message that petulant immature posturing is not particularly becoming in a 60-year-old man.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:39 am
Bilderbergers using bomb scare to keep jounalists and protestors even further from their venue
http://www.prisonplanet.com/source-bilderberg-planning-fake-bomb-threat.html
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:40 am
Mikey: Polish death camps is not actually a slip…some of the worst death camps – I think maybe even including Auchwitz? – were in then-occupied Poland. They certainly are “back” in Poland now.
Saw a short snip of footage of little kids showing their tattooed arms on the History channel last night…even after seeing the same clip 1000 times it is still horrific isnt it?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:43 am
Graham — 8.06 & 10.38.
Someone give you 100 lines for encouraging the leech?
Vote:I agree with your approach, though. I wish others would do the same. I do not have much time to post but read GD regularly. The last weeek has been one big bore and waste of time. It is hard to believe the wasted space taken up by the resident abuser.
May 31st, 2012 at 10:44 am
wikiriwhis business: Quite a good idea if it keeps those slimy journalists away
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:45 am
David – apparently the Poles are a bit sensitive about saying ‘Polish death camps’ rather than ‘Nazi death camps in Poland’.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:45 am
@ Nookin: How’d you guess?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:45 am
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10809715
Tie her bloody tubes already.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:45 am
Chris Christie to move ahead with sports gambling in NJ despite legal actions
http://tracking.si.com/2012/05/25/new-jersey-sports-betting/
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:47 am
Steve (North Shore) posted about gen4energy last night on GD. I found it very interesting. One question, though (I know very little about nuclear energy in general, so bear with me) – what happens to the waste? That is what chiefly worries me about nuclear energy.
All I could see on the site is that after operating for ten years, the system is allowed to cool for one to four years, and then returned sealed to the assembly facility. So I assume there is still some form of nuclear waste to be disposed of?
Anyone know?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:49 am
Not just blinded by faux ideological hatred?
Whereas you would not have reached the same conclusion had it been Bush who uttered something that dumb? And of course we actually do have a very comparable example from history, in the “slip” that President Ford made about the Poles in a 1976 debate with Jimmy Carter – and we all know how high the left-wing’s regard for Ford’s IQ was.
In any case I don’t judge the man on a mere “slip” from a free-wheeling press conference or interview; all politicians have such moments. But this was a prepared speech, added to other such events like as “corpseman”, referring to the Falkland Islands as the Maldives, and countless others.
Come on milky: imply once again that you’re balanced, fair and objective by telling me that you think Obama is as smart as a whip.
P.S. I love the he’s not a real left-winger/socialist nonsense that gets trotted out every time one of these lefty heroes is found to have feet of clay. As it went with Tony, Gordon, Kevny, and now Julia.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:52 am
Heh, political correctness rears its ugly head again.
Should be Nazi Death Camps in Poland not Polish Death Camps.
Or say, the Hutu Genocide in Rwanda, not the Rwandan Genocide, or the American Invasion of Vietnam, not the Vietnam War.
(apologies to the non-Akazu Hutus – you haven’t kicked up enough of a fuss yet for us to consider your feelings)
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:52 am
Jack5 at 1028 posted his disgust about the way RNZ broadcast “the grief stricken murmurings of the parents of the triplets killed in the Middle East fire”
Yes, we heard that too, and join Jack5 in condemning such lowest-common-denominator blatant appeal to the sensitivities of its listeners.
When we hear an interviewee reduced to tears we imagine the radio news staff and reporters in the studio high five-ing each other for having reduced the subject to on-air sobbing.
Unfortunately this broadcasting of the sobbing breakdown of some unfortunate or other who has suffered a mighty personal blow is becoming, or has become, all too common.
I’m reminded of the old saying that “Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel”
Well in this case, broadcasting the tearful sobbing of a victim is the lowest level or ‘Last Refuge’ of public broadcasters lacking the professional ability to air more appropriate and sensitive coverage which protects the dignity and privacy of the victims whilst informing the listening public.
Its an easy cop-out for a lazy broadcaster who is apparently incapable of presenting news in a manner that doesn’t rely for impact on such gimmicky elements as tears.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:57 am
Big banker put on Warren commission to ‘investigate’ Kennedy assassanation
http://www.dailypaul.com/236653/hey-banksters-we-mourn-the-fallen-heroes-you-took-from-us?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailypaul%2FFClq+%28The+Daily+Paul+-+Ron+Paul+for+President+2012%29&utm_content=FaceBook&utm_term=Ron+Paul
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:58 am
If tom had provided actual evidence of Obama’s intellectual inability, rather than trot out some speaking errors, that might be the basis for a debate. Any evidence that Obama is a ‘left winger’ could also be entertaining. Or he could just stay with ‘Obama is a Democrat, so there must be something really wrong with him’. You must be quite tempted to join the birthers.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:59 am
“..You’ve enslaved fullstops..”
but in doing so..i have liberated words…see..?
“.. and discriminated against commas..”
don’t get me started on that effete/over-used/simpering excuse for punctuation…
..it should be banned forthwith…
..if we talked like the number of commas overused by most in their writing..pausing for each of the cowering-imperatives..we would be talking like staccato machine guns…
“.. and stripped capital letters of their rights…”
..what ‘rights’..?..the capital letter is a class-riddled consolation prize for the peasants…
….it’s ok..you aren’t one of us..a sir or a lord…but you can call yrslf ‘mister’…(with a capital letter of course.)…there you go peasant..be happy with yr false honorific…
..and they had to be used at the beginning of sentences..because of the cost of paper…
..with internet white space a gloriously huge area to gambol in…that imperative has also now gone…
..and in fact..you will find that every capital letter…is utter bullshit…and not needed..
..and they are so brutish and ugly..
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 11:03 am
“..Jack5 at 1028 posted his disgust about the way RNZ broadcast “the grief stricken murmurings of the parents of the triplets killed in the Middle East fire”..”
i have found the television coverage of this tragedy to be some of the worst tragedy-voyuerism i have ever seen…
..and bordering on obscene/unwatchable..
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 11:07 am
“..You must be quite tempted to join the birthers…”
he has the application on his desk..as we speak…
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 11:08 am
Jack5 and Akaroa: I agree. Journalists seem to feel it necessary to hound victims and their families at their lowest, most vulnerable points, and it is wrong. We can imagine their grief, we don’t need to see it in glorious colour and listen to it in high fidelity.
I wonder how often people ask to be left to grieve in private, and are simply ignored, all for the sake of ratings?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 11:16 am
“and bordering on obscene/unwatchable..”
much like phil ure..whoar.. eh ?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 11:24 am
To those that call others out when they point out Obama’s gaffes, it seems there’s a bit of it flying the other way on the interweb.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/7021500/Romneys-new-campaign-app-misspells-America
A case of pot, kettle, balck…
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 11:29 am
“American Invasion of Vietnam” ??
Polish Death Camps sounds like it was set up by the Poles and they were killing people.
I have no doubt Obama misspoke. shit happens. say sorry and move on. (normally hes quick to apologise for americas history)
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 11:33 am
Read this about the Anglican fund raising for the Cathedral
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/7018946/Church-silent-on-trip-cost?comment_msg=posted#post_comment
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 11:35 am
Due to the short life expectency of Maori men who die earlier than Euro men consideration should be given to establishing a fund that will allow Maori to access super earlier. I would set up a fund that Maori contribute to and call it Maorisaver and operate it along the lines of Kiwisaver.
Vote:The fund would be kick started by whanau ora and Maori will contribute and self fund this super initiative.
May 31st, 2012 at 11:48 am
I clicked over to parliament tv last night.
An MP was speaking. some chick. had no idea who she was or what party. she started OK. then became one of the most over expressive smug b*tches ive ever seen.
the sort of persona that would appeal if you were on her side. but if you were in the middle or the other side its just off putting.
it turned out to be some labour hack called Moana Mackey.
i was relieved she wasnt national
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 11:48 am
Bhudson, fact is they’re as bad as eachother, but each side’s respective supporters are only able to see the mote in their adversary’s eye rather than their own’s plank.
Partisan conditioning or human condition – take your pick. (or take the piss like I do)
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 11:49 am
Dime: well, if one was a cretin without the most basic knowledge of 20th Century history one might thing the POLES had set up death camps…mind you, when senior New Zealand students arent really sure which side NZ was on in WW II, and the best guesses are “the Americans?” then I guess you might be right…
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 12:02 pm
“…when senior New Zealand students arent really sure which side NZ was on in WW II, and the best guesses are “the Americans?” then I guess you might be right…”
That mentality is not surprising -
The NZ Left always wanted a ‘war on religion’ but when it finally came time to fight it, they refused, knowing that they’ed have to fight on the side of NZ – and G W Bush.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Kevin H
Vote:More information on where all the Whanau Ora money is coming from would be appreciated? Is is being taken from health , education budgets..See my comment yesterday in the article re Winston questioning the 5 million spent last year on ”Family reunuions.” Separatism is the high road to nowhere.
May 31st, 2012 at 12:08 pm
I was glad to see a few people comment on the link below.
Shock after counsellor approves underage relationship
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/shock-after-cyf-counsellor-approves-underage-relationship-4904575
However, I note many of the liberals so concerned about the right of homosexuals to adopt children do not have the same concern about the sexual abuse of a 14 year old girl by a number of adult males who CYF and the Family Court have protected.
It will be interesting in the near future to find out who the counsellor is as well as a well known TV presenter.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 12:22 pm
How do you “note” that Chuck? I don’t see any comments on that story, or any thread here on KB, where “many of the liberals so concerned about the right of homosexuals to adopt children” state that they are not concerned about that case. Are you keeping the evidence to yourself for some reason?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Here is my Open letter to John Key about his trip to Europe where he wants to get first hand knowledge about the financial situation. I argue he already knows and should keep our tax money where it belongs; here in New Zealand instead of gallivanting all over the place finding out shit he already knows .
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 12:36 pm
bhudson I commented first at May 31st, 2012 at 8:43 am with a link.
I would have thought that a few of the liberals on this KB would have seen Close Up last night.
It is going to be interesting to find out the sexual preference of the counsellor who often are pretty relaxed about adult child sex.
Did you see Close Up on TV or on the net?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Grow up !
Where adults are concerned, there is no such thing as child sex, rather, it’s child abuse !
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Nah Chuck, it’s just that some liberals can smell crap, unbalanced sensationalist reporting from a mile off.
I suspect the ‘CYF approved councellor’ and CYF themselves have a very different take on what actually happened.
That’s not to say the councellor didn’t fuck up (they should all be registered) but let’s wait for the whole story to come out eh?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Homophobia alert warning warning homophobic Cristian posting warning warning chuck hates homo’s warning warning
Is not it a criminal offense to have sex with an underage girl?
Vote:would not this so called councilor be liable for aiding and abetting a criminal offense?
Why no referral to the police? why no arrest for statutory rape?
cyfs is one sick organization if this has occurred as reported
May 31st, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Scott, did you see the show?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Caught a bit of “willie & JT” at lunch time. Apparently if 60k has been wasted in whanau ora then its just a “blight”. Course if it was anything to do with national or act they would be “rotten mongrels” and williw would get in something about “john keys mates”.
anyway,
they talk about how much work they do in south auckland and west auckland etc good for them. the programs sound quite good. my question though:
whanau ora is maori only?
do any other poor people have any programs like this? or is it race based charity and help?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:09 pm
You must be quite tempted to join the birthers.
Heh, heh, heh.
Sounds like someone is just desperate to play the deligitimisation game – which is why the Obama campaign wet themselves with delight when Trump hosted some fundraiser for Romney the other day. By contrast, being associated with Al Sharpton or Corzine is apparently not something that Obama has to disavow. In short, the issue is not one of political correctness but the double standards applied, to whit:
My point – which I’m absolutely sure you get, and hence want to avoid – is that “speaking errors” were absolutely taken as evidence of Bush’s intellectual capability. But somehow Barakus Pompus gets a pass even from left-wingers who claim to have no time for him. That’s my bone of contention. He gets a pass because even if he is a turncoat it’s still absolutely vital that he be seen as a smart, informed guy – because that’s how left-wingers see themselves, and the people they vote for. Anything less than smart might be seen as a reflection on their own intellectual capabilities – and we can’t have that can we?
Oh milky, you’ve been dancing around this forever on this blog. I can think of several ways in which it could be argued that Obama’s not a left-winger, but they all turn on the usual rat-swallowing that happens in politics. I’d much rather hear from you why he’s a nae a true Scotsman, as the saying goes.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:18 pm
@dime:
Strangely, that’s a hard question to answer. http://www.tpk.govt.nz/en/in-focus/whanau-ora/ defines Whānau Ora as “an inclusive interagency approach to providing health and social services to build the capacity of ALL New Zealand families in need. It empowers whānau as a whole rather than focusing separately on individual family members and their problems.”
So on the one hand it talks about all NZ families … but on the other specifically talks about whānau. Since I have family, not whānau, I guess that lets me out.
But anyway, browse around a few places and you find statements such as “He Korowai Oranga (Māori Health Strategy) defines Whānau Ora as Māori families being supported to achieve their maximum health and wellbeing”. I’d say it’s a safe bet that you have to be Maori to access it.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Trev’s finally lost it and gone full socialist.. I switched off after the first mention of that “spirit level” bollocks the left are so proud of.
http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/05/31/an-interesting-idea/
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
(sick christians brainwash hate into children..)
http://whoar.co.nz/2012/childs-aint-no-homos-gonna-make-it-to-heaven-church-performance-goes-viral/
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:30 pm
(and people with psychiatric-issues should smoke pot…go figure..!..)
http://whoar.co.nz/2012/study-marijuana-linked-to-lower-mortality-rate-for-patients-with-psychotic-disorders/
“..The use of cannabis is associated with lower mortality risk in patients with schizophrenia and related psychotic disorders – according to a forthcoming study to be published in the Journal of Psychiatric Research. (Read the abstract of the study online here.)
An international team of investigators from the University of Maryland School of Medicine and Inje University in South Korea assessed the impact of a lifetime history substance use on mortality in 762 subjects with schizophrenia or related disorders.
Researchers reported, “[W]e observed a lower mortality risk-adjusted variable in cannabis-users compared to cannabis non-users – despite subjects having similar symptoms and anti-psychotic treatments.”
Authors speculated that the association between marijuana use and decreased mortality risk may be because “cannabis users may (be) higher functioning” -
- and because “cannabis itself may have some health benefits.”
They concluded: “To our knowledge, this is one of the first studies to examine the risk of mortality with cannabis and alcohol in people with PD (psychotic disorders).
This interesting finding of decreased mortality risk … in cannabis users – is a novel finding..”
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Romney did not win Texas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju4Vyny2BN4&feature=player_embedded
Vote:
May 31st, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Oh, tom, you are the master of the non-answer. So you were among those ridiculing Bush? If not, then I fail to see how you could play that game now. Unless you want to say Bush misstatements = intellect, Obama misstatements = ignorance.
You keep calling the Domcrats left wing and i’ll just keep pointing out that they’re well to the right of the National Party
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Oh, tom, you are the master of the non-answer.
Looking hard …… more closely ….. But nope, no sign of irony at all!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:41 pm
@ dime continued: There are, of course, loads of initiatives for poor people, but yeah … Whānau Ora are race based. Along with:
- Te Mangai Paho (Maori Broadcasting, supporting 21 Māori radio stations and Māori TV)
- the Māori Potential Fund (which is about realising Māori Potential or Māori succeeding as Māori, in order to better position Māori to build and leverage off their collective resources, knowledge, skills and leadership capability to improve their overall quality of life)
- The Whānau Integration, Innovation and Engagement Fund (WIIE), which is available to help whānau move to greater self reliance and self management by strengthening whānau connections and engagements, developing whānau leadership, and building whānau knowledge, skills and capabilities to achieve their goals and aspirations
- The Māori Business Facilitation Service, which provides advice and guidance to new and existing Māori businesses. Available to those who are of Māori descent.
- The Māori Education Foundation, which awards scholarships to Maori
… and probably quite a few others.
Now, that as such doesn’t worry me. But I do get rather exasperated with those dicks that claim Maori are disadvantaged, without pointing out all the ways that they actually have quite a few advantages and headstarts because they are Maori.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Being unable to recognise irony, I was inclined to give tommy the benefit of the doubt when he raised Obama ‘Polish death camps’ line and linked it to an assessment of his intellect. No I’m just not sure whether tommy believes Obama is stupid and the quote was evidence of that, or he believes he is stupid, but doesn’t have any evidence. It’s interesting; a while ago he was calling Biden the dumbest VP ever, similarly without any evidence.
Vote:Maybe tommmy should just stick to “Democrats bad, nyah, nayh, nyah”.
May 31st, 2012 at 1:50 pm
graham – i hope you dont need whanau ora services!
i sit and listen to willie and jt speak about all they do for maori to help them. i wonder if they ever consider that they and their kind are half the problem?
constantly telling maori they arent good enough and the education system is failing them.
constantly telling them they have been ripped off and are owed something etc etc
maori in aussie seem to be doing so much better
is that because the good ones left?
or they just dont hear the bullshit, dont become obsessed with shit that happened two centuries ago and just work like normal people?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
graham
I do get rather exasperated with those dicks that claim Maori are advantaged, without pointing out all the ways that they actually have quite a few disadvantages and sometime need headstarts because they are Maori.
There, fioxed that for you.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
“..they actually have quite a few advantages and headstarts because they are Maori…”
and of course that ‘advantage’ is confirmed by the stellar stats for maori…
..eh..?
(pssst..!..yr racist petticoat hem is peeking out from under yr skirt..eh..?..better hitch it up..eh..?..you’re showing..)
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Adding that to -… blinded by faux ideological hatred? – I suppose I should stop milky in his tracks by stating that I have always thought of Bill Clinton (Democrat) as a very, very smart guy. He must be curled up in the fetal position by now at the sight of all this, not to mention Hillary’s reaction.
Admittedly that line of argument will probably cut no ice with milky since Clinton is also considered a right-wing, sell-out so it could be said that I’m merely approving of another ideological soulmate.
But back on point: I’m using the same standards for Obama/Biden that were used for Bush and Quayle.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
mike – without pointing out all the ways that they actually have quite a few disadvantages and sometime need headstarts because they are Maori.
examples?
can you give me maori specific examples? why its harder to be maori in trying/awful circumstances than it is to be tongan? samoan? indian? white? jewish?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
mikenmild: So you agree that Maori are given race-based advantages and headstarts?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Chuck, I follow that programme as assiduously as I follow ‘(x country) Idol’ or ‘MasterChef (x country)’
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Is all the money spent on the stone age culture actually doing any good are the statistics improving is there actually proof that the effort that has been put into Maori from the eighties making a change
Vote:doubt it some how why would those on the gravy train actually make a difference it would do them out of their cushy jobs
If it has made a difference I am sure that it would be held out as a reason for more funding
bet you
crime statistics as percentage of offenders has got worse
percentage on benefit has got worse
more Maori kids been beaten to death
more failing school system
Etc Etc Etc
go on apologists for colonialism prove me wrong please
May 31st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
milktitties is clearly a racist.
He thinks maori need a hand up. They’re not equal to the rest of us.
Patronising arse.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:13 pm
“…Is all the money spent on the stone age culture..”
now..there speaks a tolerant/civilised human..eh..?
..the fact is ‘the maori culture’ is the only culture this little burg has..
..what did the poms contribute..?..morris-dancing..?
..the afrikaaners..?..?..?..
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
“Chuck, I follow that programme as assiduously as I follow ‘(x country) Idol’ or ‘MasterChef (x country)’”
And liberals like you call me a bigot.
I just heard from a very good source who the well known TV presenter who also had sex with this girl.
If this becomes public which it may in the near future we may see an investigation into CYF, the Family Court, YouthLaw, Office of the Children’s Commissioner and a few other organisation which helped in a cover up of the sexual abuse of a 14 year old girl.
Many helping in the cover up were liberal who support the undermining of the family unit.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
That’s a joke, right?
Look out your window Phool. Can you see a city, with power and water reticulation and sewage services, roads that you have right of passage on, a stable system of laws and government, and myriad taxpayers all working hard to support your carefree dole bludging existence?
The English brought all that. Show a bit of respect, you worthless POS.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:21 pm
“Homophobia alert warning warning homophobic Cristian posting warning warning chuck hates homo’s warning warning”
That is great – an out and out racist bigot calls me a homophobe.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RRM – dont do it! pretend its not here!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:27 pm
kowtow, I have no problem with giving Maori a helping hand if they need it. Just be nice to hear some of the whingers acknowledge the help they are given, rather than continually complain.
It would also be good to see something being done to ensure that the money being spent is having some positive impact. For example: There is a wide range of early childhood education services available in New Zealand, including kohanga reo which you would think would encourage Maori to enrol their children, right? Wrong. Participation rates for Maori children are lower than those for non-Maori.
(Note I’m looking at some old stats here, so if that’s changed please feel free to correct me.)
So why aren’t Maori using these services? Shouldn’t we look at whether we’re getting a ROI, and if not think about what needs to change? By all means keep these services going, but don’t just throw money in to a bottomless pit if it’s not working.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:28 pm
dime@2:25
+1
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:30 pm
graham – i suspect the issue is the kohanga reo people dont pick the kids up and drop them off.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
dime, graham;
Sorry I’ve been away for a few days (We’ve just had a baby.)
I didn’t realise that even the stalwarts such as yourselves were ignoring it now. Right you are then.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I just heard from a very good source who the well known TV presenter who also had sex with this girl.
Vote:They should make English compulsory in schools.
May 31st, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Congrats on baby! Boy or Girl?
Dime is a tremendous boys name.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Or a girl’s name – it’s very androgynous
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:40 pm
I was thinking maybe Philip?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Yeah, sure tom, it really hurt to hear Dan Quayle or George Bush called stupid, so that make it a good idea to call names in return? I’m sure that nastiness only ever came from one party. If you do think some politicians are stupid, you might want to give examples, or people might think that you don’t actually believe it, but just want to indulge yourself in a bit of abuse.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 2:45 pm
… annnnnd again …
But back on point: I’m using the same standards for Obama/Biden that were used for Bush and Quayle.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Chuck,
1. I have never referred to you as a bigot
Vote:2. That is the first time I can recall anyone has tried to label me as a liberal
May 31st, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Um, I understand that. I was just wondering whether you actually thought Obama was stupid, or just abusing him because other people had called Quayle and Bush names in the past.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 3:09 pm
“..The English brought all that. ..”
you are talking infrastructure…i am talking culture..
(and ‘phillip’ would be a fine name..it means ‘lover of horses’ (in a platonic way)..didn’tyaknow..?)
(and the abuse has stopped..long may it stay that way..)
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 3:11 pm
“..Or a girl’s name – ..”
good name for a hooker..(could be price-limiting tho’..)
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 3:14 pm
what’s that noise..?
..is it mass tongue/lip-biting..?
..(i think i hear grunts and moans from dime in there also..is he hookering..or wanting to speak..?)
..phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 3:18 pm
“..calls me a homophobe…”
that’s ‘cos you are one..chuck…
..then there are your race-concerns…eh..?
all in all…
..multi-faceted bigotry on the hoof…
..eh..?
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Yvette, you have to get your priorities right. Poor grammar is more important than the sexual abuse of a 14 year old girl and the State coverup.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Congratulations!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 3:36 pm
yvette @223
Was that a cryptic clue,English and schools?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 3:53 pm
“that’s ‘cos you are one..chuck…”
When you set a positive roll model to you children as I do then I and other will take you seriously.
Someone who continuously breaks the law is not a good roll model.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RRM… Congrats
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Phil, here is another interesting site
http://labour25.com/
It is about the disproportionate number of left wing paedophiles.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Shit it actually works boys and girls! Ignore the child throwing a tantrum and the tantrum does indeed abate…
Takes me back to the “boycott” on Mrs Metsers that we organised in the fourth form….no one got caned so long as we all held solid…
Ah fuck Chuck! Whaddya doing??
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 4:13 pm
“..When you set a positive roll (sic) model to you (sic) children as I do..”
so..a homophobe..and a racist…is ‘a good role model’..eh..?
right ho..!
(did you not see the earlier link i posted showing a church full of christians ecstatically cheering a small boy singing:..’no homos are going to heaven’..
..a sentiment you wd agree with…eh..?
..do you forget that you have preached homophobia and racism since forever..on this site..?
it’s hardly a secret/revelation…
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 4:14 pm
David, have look at this outrage and tell me if you think this is crap as some think.
I am concerned at the State supporting the sexual abuse of children.
Shock after counsellor approves underage relationship
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/shock-after-cyf-counsellor-approves-underage-relationship-4904575
Some fuck wit YouthLaw lawyer aided and abetted the sexually abuse of a 14 year old girl.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 4:16 pm
“do you forget that you have preached homophobia and racism since forever..on this site.”
Leave the homophobia bullshit aside show me where I have preached racism.
I have repeatedly condemned on this blog.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 4:22 pm
“..Leave the homophobia bullshit aside.”
but that is what defines you as a bigot-role-model…
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Chuck, I also mentioned the story on yesterday’s GD thread around about 5.30, but I’m not sure if anyone saw it..
It is bad, to be sure.
It’s all been happening the past few weeks: politicians giving their (private) blessing to gay marriage, a guy wanting to marry twins, and now a worker from a Govt organisation giving the OK to sex with a minor.
Not much left now, apart from sex with animals.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Phil, you have accused me of preaching racism. Would you care to withdraw and apologise?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Chuck Bird- In the past few months he has accused me of Racism, Bigotry, Benefit Fraud, Beating my wife, Alcoholism, White Trash’ism, Being a Criminal, Being a Skinhead, Being a member of a Political Party, and even being a Politician (possibly the most horrendous allegation of them all…)
Vote:Don’t hold your breath for an apology mate- Just enjoy the fact that you are way, way higher up the food chain than this horrible parasite….
May 31st, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Anyone else notice that the resident leech, knowall got more and more strident throughout
the day as he was ignored, untill about 3.00 pm when he lost it and began screaming
for attention.
Chuck Bird saved him from having a breakdown.
Well done Chuck.
Question is, why would anyone solicit an opinion from, or ask a question of, a bludging loser knowall ?
Why would you do that Chuck Bird ?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Great news RRM; all the best to you and the whanau
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:15 pm
“..Not much left now, apart from sex with animals…”
oh look..!..the god-squad are here…
..it’s ‘old testament’ fletch….
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
I missed this from RRM: Sorry I’ve been away for a few days (We’ve just had a baby.)
Congratulations, I hope you at least agree with me on this, that having your own is as good an achievement as you can hope for – and it relegates the niggles here into relative irrelevance.
If posts start appearing in the middle of the night we’ll know what’s up.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:17 pm
knives..and in that time you have said of me..and my son..?
care to list them..?
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Philu- I have only ever repeated what you have told us yourself about you and your son.
Vote:That you love smoking Pot, think it is the ‘wonder drug’ and that you and your son get together regularly and have a hearty old laugh at us “rightwingers”…(who incidentally pay for your drug-fuelled worthless existence)
May 31st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Well – David Garrett @ 4.06pm said it all. I especially loved the “Ah fuck Chuck! Whaddya doing??”
I must confess, I’ve been annoyed by bereal’s daily complaining about the same thing, over and over, but not any more. Bereal – i’m a convert & to hell with tolerance.
Please People – don’t talk to it, don’t talk about it, don’t give it oxygen & it might go away!
cheers
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:26 pm
“..Pot, think it is the ‘wonder drug’..”
did you see the earlier evidence that is is good for people with psychosis to smoke pot..?
that one had me going:..’whoar..!..pot the wonder drug..!..”
how could it not…?
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Travellerev @ 12:27 – I have survived the ordeal of reading your Open Letter to John Key.
Whatever may be your day job, I suggest that you refrain from giving it up in favour of a career in political commentary.
Your attempts at humour were as weak as any that I have read on a blog in a very long time. (Only that sustained air of intellectual superiority was capable of raising a chuckle.)
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:27 pm
We are living in a sewer with potty mouthed celebrities dragging us into further into the mire and squalor.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:28 pm
It’s actually laughable that some poor sods are so desperate for recognition.
So desperate that even if they are being called a piece of shit, they would prefer that
than being ignored.
Next thing we will hear from this piece of shit is a rehash of what a great man he is.
He rose, above all odds (in his own words) to become a bus driver, years ago, before he got
fired.
Then this hero, in his own mind, outsmarted everyone and got re employed as a bus driver
under a different name.
And this is the zero bludger that the likes of Chuck Bird go to seeking his opinion.
Why would you do that Chuck Bird ?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:29 pm
knives..you lie..
..you have been one of the foulest rightwing trolls..
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:31 pm
have you joined a.a. yet..beryl..?
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:36 pm
“And this is the zero bludger that the likes of Chuck Bird go to seeking his opinion.
Why would you do that Chuck Bird ?”
Where was I seeking Phil’s opinion?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:39 pm
See how easy it is to pull the monkeys chain,
Pull chain , monkey speak.
See how i have trained the monkey.
Monkey can’t help himself any more than Pavlovs
dogs could.
When you understand the monkey, you control the monkey.
Easy.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Andrei –
Why don’t you join a monastery or something? you’d be happier.
The modern world is clearly far too dirty for you.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:46 pm
What’s with the Monkey analogy Bereal?
Vote:I thought you hated and killed any furry animals you encounter??
May 31st, 2012 at 5:49 pm
I will follow the recomendations as well, even though I don’t like being told what to do. I did not think enough people would do the same and ignore the thing, but it looks like I was wrong.
Vote:Bit like a Union thing really.
DPF, you have a strike on your Blog!!!
May 31st, 2012 at 5:50 pm
that’s a bit cruel knives…inciting the drunk/resident-sot….
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@ graham re the nuclear waste disposal.
I have not spent much time on this Gen4 reactor stuff. It seems that the final disposal at the refining plant is not clear. Quite understandable, the idea of every nutbar nuclear bomb wannabe maker having this information is suppressed for security I guess.
Vote:Any energy generation will have a waste product which will include the materials to implement the plant. The main thing is that this ‘toxic waste’ came from this planet. It came out of the ground, so it can go back into the ground just like ‘shit’ does
May 31st, 2012 at 6:00 pm
More on Energy:
http://reason.com/blog/2012/05/30/us-reduces-greenhouse-gas-emissions-by-b
http://reason.com/blog/2012/05/30/wall-street-journalcatches-on-to-the-gre
Frack it and drill it and mine it and fuck the Greens
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Anyone been following the education staffing debacle? Just listening to the latest installment on Checkpoint. I mean d’oh.
Parata is one of the Nats most capable female ministers. She’s ahead of Bennet and just below Collins. And what does Key do?
Gets all girly when the media starts picking up on the loose end as per the opposition’s neighing and opens the door to admitting the policy as announced in the budget is too harsh. Fucking der. The only reason you’d do that is if you wanted this policy to become the bone that distracts the idiot media who go away and gnaw at it because you know there’s a real stinker of a policy that the idiots haven’t noticed yet. But I know that’s not the case. The reason I know, not think, but know, is cause I know the Nats aren’t clever enough to do that. This is genuine.
I mean I’m a conservative so yay the Nats but FFS. Shaking my head over this idiocy, which was all so unnecessary in the first place.
They’re all mental, and I’m sick of it. Why can’t we get a decent govt.
I wish we could bring dead people back to life. Some of our dead politicians could really fix this place up. It’s quite obvious it’s beyond those living, today, now.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
@calendar girl – re your 5:27 pm:
I once tried to read some of the crap posted by trivialrev and ended up flagging it. It wasn’t just the jaundiced, left leaning propaganda, bullshit and conspiracy theories that put me off, it was also the poor grammar / poor comprehension and generally poor form.
I feel your pain.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:15 pm
More than a little Jew hating there too Chucky.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:19 pm
i suggest that Longknives and his mentor retire and join a male only
drumming group in a sweatlodge.
Give it about 20 hours non stop drumming, beat the shit out of those drums,
Vote:you’ll feel so much better.
May 31st, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Thank you, Elaycee. It’s not easy to convey the depths of one’s despair at reading reading such drivel.
(p.s. How do you clever people add those emoticom thingies to your posts?)
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Given the choice (at gunpoint) of spending time with either Philu or Bereal at a ‘male only’ sweatlodge I think I might have to choose Phil (Don’t get any ideas Philu…smoke all the herb you want to suppress those urges!)
Bereal’s recent alleged cat-killing spree has some serious alarm bells ringing…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:40 pm
@calendar girl:
for a smile: type : then type ) (no space), to get
for LOL: type : then type D (no space) to get
for ‘Heh’: type : then P (no space) to get
More here: http://calebbrown.id.au/blog/complete-list-facebook-chat-emoticons
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Test:
:A
:B
:C
:E
etc
Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
Thanks Elaycee.
I wonder if WINZ would classify this as a “life skill?”
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:43 pm
beryls’ admitted/boasted-of cat-killing spree..
delighting at having poisoned them with saucers of milk laced with anti-freeze..
..beryl is one seriously sick fuck..
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Philu- Agreed!
(Sweet Jesus I need a drink…in fact-make that a bloody double!)
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Hydro is the best cheap green energy
Guess what the latest watermelon crusade is
Ban new hydro power
Luddites and loons!
And nuclear In new Zealand yeah right
Racist
Wiki
“Racism is generally understood as either belief that different racial groups are characterized by intrinsic characteristics or abilities and that some such groups are therefore naturally superior to others, ”
OR
“Practices that discriminate against members of particular racial groups, for example by perpetuating unequal access to resources between groups”
Someone has to ask questions once on a while.
Ideal opportunity for an colonial apologist to get their “the fact’s”across.
And I do not have the band width so I was trying to get luc or MM to find links while I was working.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
..beryl is one seriously sick fuck..
That’s right phil, she said it on a blog. Social media. Ergo, it must be true. Crikey.
BTW, how’s your sick fuckness going, or don’t you want us to talk about that, tonight? Just asking. Casually. (i.e. I don’t want a big drama about “how dare you, you …. etc etc etc) Just a simple “it’s fine thanks” is ok – I wasn’t really that interested anyway. Isn’t it funny. Sometimes with this blogging business you just don’t know if you’re typing or merely thinking to yourself, do you now…
??
Hydro is the best cheap green energy
No it’s not it’s getting all the green party members to furiously peddle to power generators for the rest of us, so we can be warm and cosy, while they peddle to keep warm and then eat some hay and other vegan crap. That’s the best cheap green energy.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:50 pm
I think I got it!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:52 pm
But the big lesson for the day boys and girls!….Yes! If you annoy him, his activity is less! (someone who is more of a geek than me can anaylse yesterdays responses vs. todays)… good, innnit!!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:56 pm
“..That’s right phil, she said it on a blog. Social media. Ergo, it must be true. Crikey….”
beryl is a man…and he matter-of-factly gave his reasons why..(shitting in his garden..)
..he wasn’t trying to shock…
..and he seemed shocked at the negative reaction from some…
..as he sees/saw nothing untoward with poisoning cats with milk laced with anti-freeze..
i repeat..he is a sick fuck…
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Dave this is like discovering the Red Shift. Perhaps we should name an observatory after you. Mt Garrett has a good ring to it.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 6:57 pm
sorry…Freudian slip…”annoy him” shoud have read “ignore him”…
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:00 pm
heh..!
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Really? Milk and anti freeze works eh? …But dont do it out here bereal…much to my surprise I have found myself quite fond of my Charlie’s cat….
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:01 pm
“..Mt Garrett has a good ring to it…”
good name for a prison..
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:02 pm
sorry…Freudian slip…”annoy him” shoud have read “ignore him”…
Yes I assumed that was what you meant Dave. I assumed that was your equivalent of Einstein’s cosmological constant which he later proclaimed as the error of a lifetime. Good on you for picking up on YOUR error within a few minutes, he took a bit longer.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Still here? Well, they say that the real plebs just never get it…dragged up as we were, Mater taught us from an early age to detect when we had overstayed our welcome…
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:08 pm
I was listening to Willie Jackson yesterday offering the line of the Tuhoe raid shouldn’t have happened but rather the local cops sent in to talk to Tama Iti. I don’t agree with the proportion or the style of the raid, I think it had a distinct ‘message’ to the local population that was one that contained an implicit menace. But after reading the sentencing judgement that F E Smith linked earlier in the week, if the local cops had ‘warned’ Tama Iti by asking him what was going on with the training camps – I’m sure the first thing he would have done was hide the firearms. Maybe the local police weren’t trusted, I don’t know. But any hint that there was surveillance surely would have resulted in hiding the firearms?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:09 pm
“..Mater taught us from an early age to detect when we had overstayed our welcome…..”
really..are you still thinking new zealand ‘wants’ you..?..in any way at all..?
..hilarious…!
..you are actually at the ‘why don’t you just shut the fuck up..and fuck off’ stage of the welcome-cycle..
..just in case you weren’t aware of that..
..d’ya need a poll to prove it..?
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:12 pm
So who here thinks, as a fellow conservative, we should press the govt to pass a law requiring all Gween party members and possibly Gween potential and present voters as well, to install pedal-powered generators in their homes hooked up to the national grid?
The plus side is, it gives us lots of free warmth, for nothing. No more expensive gravity and water business.
The down side is, some people who aren’t at all like us in any way, might not be happy.
What is the blog wisdom on this critical issue?
Nostalgia, of course. Duh. This is what really fucks me off. All the lefties in the world are desperately searching for reasons the cops were unreasonable but the more they think about the facts, the less reason they find. And the fucking media, doesn’t change its propaganda line, notwithstanding.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:19 pm
LJ
Especially if these pedal powered generators can be made out of wood & recycled plastic bottles. On balance although I would prefer that they walked the talk & demonstrated their commitment to the environment by permanently disconnecting from the grid.
This, plus their unwillingness to send carbon up a chimney, should weed out all but the healthiest Gweens by the end of winter.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Well, you know more about prisons than most of us Phil
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Judge tells amorous couple to get a room
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/7024793/Judge-tells-amorous-couple-to-get-a-room
“He agreed to convict the pair and discharge them without further penalty as long as they made a donation of $200 to the city’s Maori Women’s Refuge over the next three weeks. ”
Vote:What? Why should the Maori Women’s Refuge get special treatment over and above any other organisation that needs money?
Just saying
May 31st, 2012 at 7:26 pm
yes…i know more about a lot of stuff than ‘most of you’..
..eh..?
that’s just the way it is..
philip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Elaycee, let me try that here:
for a smile: type : then type ) (no space), to get
for LOL: type : then type D (no space) to get
for ‘Heh’: type : then P (no space) to get
Hope it works when I press the “Submit Comment” button, because it doesn’t work in the draft comment!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Contribution of the day to this thread, Elaycee. Thanks.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 7:59 pm
or if you type –
:lol:
You get
Or typing –
:oops:
Gets you
Here is a complete list for forums of this type –
https://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:01 pm
In a second year class, a little girl asks, “Teacher, can my Mummy get pregnant?”
“How old is your mother, dear?” asks the teacher.
“Forty.” she replies.
“Yes, dear, your mother could get pregnant.”
The little girl then asks, “Can my big sister get pregnant?”
“Well, dear, how old is your sister?”
The little girl answers, “Nineteen.”
“Oh yes, dear, your sister certainly could get pregnant.”
The little girl then asks, “Can I get pregnant?”
“How old are you, dear?”
The little girl answers, “I’m seven years old.”
“No, dear, you can’t get pregnant…”
Then, the little boy behind the little girl gives her a poke and says, “See, I told you we had nothing to worry about.”
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:03 pm
the smiley plague splutters back to life..
..are you unable to make words do the job..?
..it isn’t called the shorthand of the inarticulate for nothing..
..phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:06 pm
“Why should the Maori Women’s Refuge get special treatment over and above any other organisation that needs money?
Just saying”
Good point. I think it should have gone to Family First at they would be the strongest opponents of perverts have sex in public.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Hey Phool,
Why are you always so browned off ?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Chuck you missed by a mile. Sex in public was not my point, the point was who decided where the donation was going? Was it the Judge, family member, the Police, the Council.
Vote:There seems to be some interference on money being paid in a certain direction.
I have to work tomorrow but maybe someone who has the time can join the dots as to who is connected with those involved
May 31st, 2012 at 8:19 pm
do you always have a box of tissues to hand..there..chuck..?
..to take care of involuntary emissions when you think about things like that..?
phillip ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Steve (North Shore)
It’s just a storm in a teacup. Why, if the woman had been five years younger CYPF would have paid for a counsellor & everyone would have had their names suppressed.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:26 pm
Yeah, including the Judge nasska
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:28 pm
A work colleague was really excited because he’d just received a text from a woman he’d been dating.
“What does it say?” I asked.
My colleague said: “She said she loves anal….. … dyslexic bitch…. it turns out she loves Alan – my best mate!”
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Statistically 1 out of 2 people enjoy premature ejaculation.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Yeah, nasska, it’s job done, time to get back to the telly.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:46 pm
it turns out she loves Alan – my best mate!”
What a c**t.
Or does that spoil the whole anal joke thing?
Or does the mere fact it’s raised in the first place without it at all being a problem in anyone’s minds spoil everything anyway?
Being PC is really fucking complicated.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Ah yes Jimmy things were so much better then when the Raj ruled the jolly old British Empire!
Hope I used the right smiley?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Off YA PHACE BOOK
ure@whoar.co.nz
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Steve (North Shore) at 5:49 pm:
Fair enough, and I am certainly not trying to preach to anybody. I simply decided to ignore philu today, to see if he can work out that at 60 years old he should really try acting like a mature adult. I will probably try to ignore him tomorrow, as I suspect he hasn’t got it yet. But it’s certainly not my place to tell anybody else what to do.
RRM – congratulations! Welcome to the joys of sleepless nights!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Ah yes Jimmy things were so much better then when the Raj ruled the jolly old British Empire!
I actually think the UK learned a great deal from their rule of India. It was both the platform which both made and broke the empire in many many fascinating ways.
I mean when they first went in, how the fuck do you even rule such a populous sub-continent? I mean you get 20-something sub-lieutenants in charge of 10,000 square miles of territory with no wireless comms and huge tribal insurrections with the signals dept consisting of nothing but jungle drums and horse relays. And out of all of that the Brits managed to pull together what we saw in all the colonies. Stable centralised decision-making, stable institutions establishing first, the rule of law and second, justice, stable consistent education, etc etc etc.
It’s absolutely amazing what the Brits of just 150-200 years ago achieved, given the attitudes of today’s generation who would probably collapse in 5 mins if the internet went down and they couldn’t post on Facebook or interact with “the cloud.”
It’s a bit of a worry, isn’t it.
P.s. I think the “right” smiley is a personal decision Johnboy. A bit like trousers. Does it feel right? If so, you just don’t even need to think about it ever again. If not then you can’t stop thinking about it and can’t wait to take them off.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Some have said my smile is better when my trousers are down Jimmy!
However, perhaps we should bring back the old post of District Officer, where a jolly old public schoolboy had the power of life and death over the fuzzie-wuzzies.
Would do wonders for law and order in say Cannons Creek or Hillary Court Naenae!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:24 pm
Graham
Its called strokes
Normal people get it from a positive experience,hug or kiss,inclusion,praise, presents ,etc
For some some people the only way to get strokes is from what most would call negative experiences. In many this is a learned response.
Others get their interaction by being bullies It bolsters their ago gives them power.
It is not hard to see the preferred method for this phenomenon in some people. …
…EH…
And the effect on this blog resultantly.
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May 31st, 2012 at 9:27 pm
Speaking of the UK, what has happened to the Empire Builders?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151939/Calling-fat-hate-crime.html
I mean everyone knows, don’t they, that 5 year olds simply obsess about their appearance. Every single 5 year old I have ever known has done nothing but preen themselves in front of a mirror and fretted endlessly about how best to rid themselves quick smart of their “stupid” “baby” “fat.” This is just natural thinking for all we humans after all, so naturally the only thing to do is get with the program and get the law involved, with hate crimes. What else could possibli happen? Surely there is no other solution to this travesty? Of course there isn’t.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2151939/Calling-fat-hate-crime.html
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:30 pm
I couldn’t wait to crack a fat when I was five Jimmy!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Who is suffering from withdrawal symtoms? It’s a hard road to get rid of the maggots who infest blogs
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:32 pm
Johnboy
Walking through the lamb paddock did it for you?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:35 pm
perhaps we should bring back the old post of District Officer, where a jolly old public schoolboy had the power of life and death over the fuzzie-wuzzies.
You mean this was abolished at some point Johnboy? The folly of man, eh. What the hell were we thinking, at some point in the past? Well, some of us, anyway. What hath
wethey wrought? Oh the humanity!Of course public schoolboys should have power over the fuzzy wuzzies. How else are they ever going to learn responsibility and compassion?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:36 pm
No nasska. It was Mrs Papadoupolis my Greek teacher that did it for me finally!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:39 pm
You must get out more Jimmy. Go shopping in CC or Naenae. Take your Rottweiler!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Johnboy
Well, that’s another potential Mills & Boon plot down the shitter.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Yes LJ I was going to include a whole smegging lot of palaver about how this is a written median and the only way to represent the nuance of communication.
Is at times ridicule anger or derision and the rest of the non verbal communication displays we exhibit.
IT becomes offensive when it is ongoing prosecution of that emotion. for others as it becomes embarrassing to witness the corrupt exchange.
But I decided ….whatever
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:42 pm
We did it in the old man’s lambing paddock if that helps your writings nasska?
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Johnboy
Thanks….Chapter nine will be a doozy!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:44 pm
How come everyone else is talking nonsense except me, who makes perfect sense?
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I’m confused.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:46 pm
It’s nonsense time at KB now Jimmy and you are as the sighted man in the kingdom of the blind, as always!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:51 pm
Before she shagged me she rolled me in the sheep dip and then the new mown hay cause she wanted to be taken by a Yeti she said.
I thought she was teaching me Greek.
She did that later!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Did the Greek Yeti speak Latin Johnboy?
I’ve always been a curious sort of boy.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:07 pm
None of the commentators on here makes perfect sense except I LJ.
I am… after all the only sane one.
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When I have ALL the power you shall pay
Ive seem enough Igor come the experiment awaits.
Just because he has got na bloody ray gun thinks he can lord it over one such as I
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Griff
With both the ring & the ray gun at his finger tips I urge caution at all times!
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:16 pm
Griff like everyone else on Earth, of course I understand the secret agenda for a global state: a world govt; world central bank; world army imposing the will of the world govt; world currency and a micro-chipped population linked to a global computer. I mean it’s quite obvious, isn’t it. How come others don’t see it as well?
What I don’t understand is, how come I have this overwhelming urge to grow a small toothbrush-like mou and shout maniacally into the mirror at imaginary crowds?
Hope you can help, before I do something silly. Thanks in advance.
Vote:May 31st, 2012 at 10:53 pm
You Goodwin to lightly Master
Vote:Plugged into the matrix And the whole left wing dispersed in a puff of smoke
We are too ver reid know Master and all think they are the only true sane one and there comes a point where some will die for that right it
There can be only one
seriously LJ I call occums razor
There are all sorts even legendary Nas t timber is out there somewhere
Not every one is plumed in and ready to go do you think you are?
June 1st, 2012 at 7:06 am
We had Pike River, the Canterbury earthquakes and looming on the horizon is Meguploads potential to sue the Taxpayer for appaalling behavoir of our Govt. Agencies.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10809964
doesn’t look like Key and Co. know that much does it.
Vote:Next of course we will have to deal with Findlaysons giveaways.
June 1st, 2012 at 7:31 am
Food-nazis of the world, unite! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/31/nyc-plans-to-ban-sales-sugary-drinks-over-16-ounces/#ixzz1wRCC0qou
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