Public support for data release
September 25th, 2012 at 10:00 am by David FarrarThe Herald reports:
The majority of people polled think schools should publicly release their national standards performance data.
Results from a Herald-Digipoll survey showed 60.3 per cent of people agreed that schools should be forced to release the information.
The survey showed that people aged 18-39 years old were overwhelmingly supportive of the idea, with 70.4 per cent wanting data released.
While the last time I looked Labour’s policy was to amend the Official Information Act so educational data is suppressed and not made publicly accessible.
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September 25th, 2012 at 10:22 am
The masses might ‘misunderstand’ the data and cannot be trusted with such information! They need to be protected from their own ignorance about how to ‘properly’ read any such reports.
Vote:September 25th, 2012 at 10:31 am
I had a look at the range of views on Stuff’s website regarding the data released on Saturday, and I was quite surprised at the level of debate. A lot of parents were supportive of more information about their children, but the overwhelming response was a real concern that National Standards had so may flaws that it was effectively useless, and not only useless, but potentially damaging. The conversations I’ve had with other parents at our school seem to reflect that. I can’t really see why the Government is prepared to put bad data out there. Education and Parata are turning out to be a real liability. Thank God we’ve got such a useless Opposition.
Vote:September 25th, 2012 at 10:51 am
Kino Flo…….
Now you do need to balance your interest as a NZEI member and being a mouthpiece for them and to consider the reality.
Over the next 3 or 4 years each school will build up a record – and some will improve their performance and others will go backward or stay still.
Its those results that will be demanding. They will be demanding on the schools not improving – “why arent you improving?” “Are you not putting enough time into instilling these basics into your children?” etc, etc.
Local parents will start abandoning these bad performing schools.
The staff will be questioned about their teaching ability.
And finally will be the result of the whole exercise…….. crap teachers and crap principals will be left without a job as parents flee these bad performing schools and the schools shrink.
Thats what its all about – and i cant wait for it to happen.
Vote:September 25th, 2012 at 11:06 am
Until we get back to the good old School Certificate and University Entrance Bursary and Scholarship type national exams we will continue to see kids leaving school unable to read write or add up.
Vote:Im appalled at the poor standards I see from Gen X and Gen Y.
Mind you their teachers are just as bad especially those so called educated over the past 30 years.
Employers want employees who have at least the basics.
Good grief Auckland Uni has to put its first year law students through remedial reading courses so they can read and understand the law texts.
And these are supposed to be the cream of the crop.
Teachers and the Socialist Party have a lot to hide. Thats why they dont want to see a national standard. It will weed out the hopeless teachers who infest the current system.
September 25th, 2012 at 11:07 am
I haven’t spoken with one parent (that is not a teacher!) at my kids’ primary school that is opposed to National Standards or publishing the data.
Even if the moderation, across the whole country, might be an issue as a parent at least it gives you some comparison of where your kid is at and where they should be. Quite frankly the standards seem to be pretty low so if your child is not at the standard or above it at least you know to give them some more help.
NCEA has its problems but it is moderated across the country as far as I know and I don’t hear the public secondary school teachers and unions saying they’d rather go back to School Certificate etc.
Vote:September 25th, 2012 at 11:17 am
***National Standards had so may flaws that it was effectively ***
The perfect should not be the enemy of the good. The existence of some flaws shouldn’t be an excuse to avoid some data for parents to get a handle on how their child is getting on.
Vote:September 25th, 2012 at 11:25 am
@ barry – you’ve read kino flo like a book (the one she caren’t read herself because of the blinkers).
What a resounding vote of support for this initiative with its accompaning kick in the arse to the teachers, principles and agitators that screamed “blue murder” from the rafters. At last we have a turn in the road away from the, no testing, no identifying and no accountability, movement which has been rapidly taking this country down the toilet.
At last parents will be able to see which schools focus on the art of poi poi flopping and kapu haka groups and which ones think read, writing and arithmatic are important in a modern society. Principles will look at the result and say – “crap, if I don’t fix this up I’ll have no students = no funding = no teachers = no job.” Parents might realise that if their little creton gets expelled from a reasonable school the next one may be far worse. Good stuff! Must be some teachers and Principals absolutely crapping themselves. They do say laughter is the best medicine.
Vote:September 25th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Of course the ability to protest properly is just as important as being able to read and add. You guys are so narrow in your focus.
Vote:September 25th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
I support the release of the data because of my belief in open government.
I’m not sure I support wasting any time and money on measuring, collecting and collating the data…
Vote:September 25th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
“….Must be some teachers and Principals absolutely crapping themselves….”
That’s about spot on.
They won’t be able to use the ‘see……we are underfunded and the results prove it’ excuse against rich schools, because instead, they will be compared to schools who have the same LEVEL of funding, and with low decile schools recieving more funding….well…..the games finaly up for all these liars!
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