Stop blaming the drinks

November 2nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

A mother has blamed her teenage son’s secret energy drink habit for a breakdown in his mental health.

The Auckland woman said the 15-year-old told her he drank up to 16 cans of Monster Energy a day.

This is like the family of the women who died blaming Coke for her death, and she was drinking almost 10 litres of it a day.

A couple of energy drinks are fine. Drinking 16 cans a day is lunacy, The problem is not energy drinks, but drinking that many.

“I’ve talked to him since and his explanation is that [the energy drinks] are his best friends because when he was low he could have one of those and they’d make him feel better,” said the woman, who wanted to remain anonymous to protect her son.

I think he had issues before the energy drinks!

Most popular energy drinks, including Monster, contain 32mg of caffeine per 100ml.

Research quoted by the NZ Food Safety Authority says a 70kg adult can usually consume 400mg a day without adverse effects.

So no more than 1.2 litres or four cans a day. A coffee has around 100 mgs also, so no more than four a day of them also.

 

No tag for this post.

31 Responses to “Stop blaming the drinks”

  1. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Wow, what happens from one can of COKE

    A Sheep No More
    What Happens to Your Body When You Drink a Can of Coke?

    Have you ever wondered why Coke comes with a smile? Because it gets you high.

    They removed the cocaine almost 100 years ago. Why? Because it was redundant.

    So What Happens to Your Body When You Drink a Can of Coke?

    In the first 10 minutes: 10 teaspoons of sugar hit your system. (100% of your recommended daily intake.) You don’t immediately vomit from the overwhelming sweetness because phosphoric acid cuts the flavour, allowing you to keep it down.

    20 minutes: Your blood sugar spikes, causing an insulin burst. Your liver responds to this by turning any sugar it can get its hands on into fat. (And there’s plenty of that at this particular moment.)

    40 minutes: Caffeine absorption is complete. Your pupils dilate; your blood pressure rises; as a response, your liver dumps more sugar into your bloodstream. The adenosine receptors in your brain are now blocked, preventing drowsiness.

    45 minutes: Your body ups your dopamine production, stimulating the pleasure centres of your brain. This is physically the same way heroin works, by the way.

    > 60 minutes: The phosphoric acid binds calcium, magnesium, and zinc in your lower intestine, providing a further boost in metabolism. This is compounded by high doses of sugar and artificial sweeteners also increasing the urinary excretion of calcium.

    > 60 minutes: The caffeine’s diuretic properties come into play. (It makes you have to pee.) It is now assured that you’ll evacuate the bonded calcium, magnesium, and zinc that was headed to your bones as well as sodium, electrolytes, and water.

    > 60 minutes: As the rave inside you dies down, you’ll start to have a sugar crash. You may become irritable and/or sluggish. You’ve also now, literally, pissed away all the water that was in the Coke. But not before infusing it with valuable nutrients your body could have used for things like hydrating your system, or building strong bones and teeth. This will all be followed by a caffeine crash in the next few hours. (As little as two if you’re a smoker.)

    http://wakeup-world.com/2011/06/08/what-happens-to-your-body-when-you-drink-a-can-of-coke/

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  2. Kleva Kiwi (267 comments) says:

    I drank a can of coke after reading that.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  3. RRM (8,988 comments) says:

    How can a 15-year-old afford to buy 16 of those things every day?
    Or does he have some kind of sugar mommy supplying him?

    And if you cannot regulate your own intake of any substance, even after you become aware of deleterious affects, then you deserve everything you get IMHO.

    If they are messing you up, harden the f*ck up and put the packet away. FFS.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  4. dime (8,746 comments) says:

    16 cans? i say bullshit. he would be dead.

    also, as RRM points out – 16 x $4 = $64 a day. He could buy friends for that at his age.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  5. Manolo (12,617 comments) says:

    I’d blame Darwinism for not going the full distance in the case of this imbecilic teen.
    The thought of her passing her genes is a worry.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  6. seanmaitland (401 comments) says:

    I don’t believe it – a Monster can is roughly $3 – $2 if you get on discount at Pak n Save every 2-3 weeks. Thats over 17k per year. I didn’t start earning that much until I was at varsity and working fulltime.

    Someone is exaggerating or not telling the full story. The mother must be buying the drinks for her son.

    I have been a big time energy drink consumer since V came out in the mid-late 90s – the most I ever had was 5 bottles in one day. I recently had two 500 ml Monsters by lunchtime and it made me feel sick – so theres no way a 15 year old could handle 16 500ml cans in a day.

    This is typical of our media – it is extremely rare that you get a journalist who bothers to present both sides of a story, or even bother asking the questions that everyone wants to know. It seems they do as little work as possible, and grab a few lazy soundbites and then try and put it out of context so they can sensationalise the article title as much as possible. Blaming an innocent third party or the government is also great mileage.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  7. Luke H (73 comments) says:

    A classic example of self-medication – the kid feels anxious and depressed, and turns to the most easily available stimulant to feel better. The solution is not to blame energy drinks, but to get the kid some help (which they have done).

    It’s also an example of transparently sensational ‘journalism’ from the lamestream media.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  8. Shunda barunda (2,964 comments) says:

    A coffee has around 100 mgs also, so no more than four a day of them also.

    I think I am going to die soon.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  9. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Manalo…I got a q since you bring up Darwinism

    How does evolution tilt the Earth to create seasons and does this phenomenon happen to other planets ?

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  10. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    when I was 15 was having sex 12 times a day and usually drank 14 -15 quarts at a session…well thats what I told my mates, who were never actaully there when any of this happened.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  11. speters (107 comments) says:

    I’m no scientist but I’m fairly sure Darwin’s theory of evolution was not intended to account for Earth’s axial tilt

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  12. Shunda barunda (2,964 comments) says:

    Darwin did a lot of shit speters, A LOT OF SHIT.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  13. speters (107 comments) says:

    What a contradictory post. You yourself say “A couple of energy drinks are fine. Drinking 16 cans a day is lunacy, The problem is not energy drinks, but drinking that many.”

    The very first line of the Stuff story is that “A mother has blamed her teenage son’s secret energy drink habit for a breakdown in his mental health.”

    I don’t see anywhere in the story where it says the drink is inherently bad, just that the mother thinks his 16 can a day habit was to blame – which you seem to agree with.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  14. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    speters, DPF linked the Herald article, not the Stuff one.

    The headline of the Herald article is “Mother: Son’s breakdown due to energy drinks”

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  15. labrator (1,691 comments) says:

    @speters Did you read DPF’s post? It’s a link to a Herald article, not a Stuff story and in the Herald article it says “Monster has been linked to a spate of deaths in the United States.” That would be saying “the drink is inherently bad”.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  16. Wade G (7 comments) says:

    >How does evolution tilt the Earth to create seasons and does this phenomenon happen to other planets ?

    Evolution has nothing to do with the tilt of the earths (or any other planets) axis.

    Other planets such as Uranus have a 98 degrees tilt, Mercury has almost zero and other planets are conceptually “upside down” with their “tilt” being almost 180 degrees.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  17. seanmaitland (401 comments) says:

    speters – if you’re going to be a pedantic, trainspotter then it pays to follow links before engaging your brain.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  18. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    His secret habit – which she apparently knows full well about???

    ” woman, who wanted to remain anonymous to protect her son.” …by taking her story to the Herald.

    This has “Tui” written all over it.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  19. David Garrett (5,120 comments) says:

    PEB: Only 12 times a day? Wimp! No wonder you became a cop…

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  20. OneTrack (1,957 comments) says:

    No more than four coffees a day – Nanny state

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  21. speters (107 comments) says:

    The only inference I took out of the article was that drinking lots of energy drink is probably bad for you, not that ANY consumption is bad. It even says how much caffeine research suggests is safe. I don’t think its pedantic to point out that DPF is essentially agreeing with the substance of the story.

    As for it being the NZ Herald and not Stuff – yep, my mistake.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  22. Flyingkiwi9 (54 comments) says:

    As a Uni student I don’t understand how he could afford 16 cans a day.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  23. Ricardo (53 comments) says:

    Wow Hinamanu, I never found Coke to be THAT good!

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  24. Shunda barunda (2,964 comments) says:

    …such as Uranus have a 98 degrees tilt

    Uranus might, mine doesn’t!!

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  25. kowtow (6,690 comments) says:

    Plain packaging and placed out of sight. The nats will like that. Just like the attack on tobacco products.

    That’ll fix it……………

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  26. annie (533 comments) says:

    The poor kid may have been going through an obsessive, rather manic phase if he has had a ‘breakdown’ in his mental health – it’s possible the drink consumption was a symptom, not a cause, of the subsequently diagnosed illness.

    But where did he get the cash? At 15 he shouldn’t have been able to access that sort of money without parental intervention.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  27. OneTrack (1,957 comments) says:

    annie- cut that out – too much logic. Its much better to blame the big american companies because they are mean. And rich.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  28. Rightandleft (574 comments) says:

    This makes me think of that awful 3 News story saying the evil Coke company was targeting children with its new ad campaign using names on bottles. They were acting like Coke was selling cigarettes for goodness sake. This Herald story is in a similar fashion, throwing out personal and parental responsibility and blaming the evil drink maker. How long until they’re calling for plain packaging on sugary drinks or a sugar tax as has been called for overseas. The level of journalism is also shabby. The 3 News story’s proof that Coke was targeting kids: they were using social media and only young people use that! To prove the point they interviewed one middle aged man who didn’t get social media and two teens who did!

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  29. Alan Wilkinson (1,798 comments) says:

    Anyone that stupid must vote Labour.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  30. Left Right and Centre (2,388 comments) says:

    More fucking fuckhead moron shit for brains retards in the fucking media… I mean honestly for shit’s sake you just want to belt them in the fuckin head…. the gormless gawping fishbrain numbnut noddy twats.

    Reminds me of the 23 year old shitlick speeding at 136km/h as a ‘mark or respect’ driving away from friend’s funeral with 4 fellow fudgefucks in some japcrap little shtibox that aint been wofed for most of it’s life since it rolled off the fuckin line. He was over everything we’ve got a fuckin limit for the little sob piece of filth. Punks like that need to have the car crushed and his oil repeatedly checked hard with a prostate sized dipstick until he fuckin learns something.

    Let’s face it- energy drink story is just so everyone can laugh at idiots. It’s always someone else’s fault. Don’t try using common sense or anything. Uuuurggghh… they need a fucking warning on the packaging or more braindead twerps like my son will become victims. Those nasty energy drink makers.

    I get addiction. Really I do. I chain drink tea, have done since two years old, get headaches if I don’t, and if I could hook myself up to a fucking tea hose I would. But I’m not whining to the media if there’s a problem. ‘Bell Tea is poisoning our communities’… there’s a headline I aint never seen yet.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  31. mikenmild (8,761 comments) says:

    Ever thought go going ‘teatotal’?

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.