Comparing yourself to Jesus
December 30th, 2012 at 4:41 pm by David Farrar
I guess this is what happens when the media fellate you continuously (witness the masses of stories written just about a tweet announcing a press conference in a month’s time!). Comparing yourself to Jesus, especially at Christmas time, is rather over the top.
Hat Tip: Keeping Stock
December 30th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
For a moment I thought you were talking about the Messiah, the new Lincoln, aka Obama.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Stewie had it right:
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December 30th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
David Fisher has written of nothing else other than Kim Dotcon, oh except for a piece of pr for Ian Wishart’s latest conspiracy book…he is basically a fulltime journalist writing pro-Dotcon articles for the Herald.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Unless he’s changed his name to ‘Mega’ then he’s comparing his company to Jesus rather than himself.
Face it, he’s a good marketer and just about anything goes in the world of online companies.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 4:58 pm
So, can I stick my finger in his side, then?
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Knob Dot Com
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
The fawning New Zealand media is a strange beast. A few years ago it was Ahmed Zaoui, then they became infatuated with David Bain, now Kim Dotcom is their beloved hero and potential ‘New Zealander of the Year’….
Whatever happened to balance in the media?
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Quite well put it seems to me. Timely and topical.
What is the problem?
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Jeez, David, since when were you auditioning to be the grinch? I think Dotcom was joking.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
“So, can I stick my finger in his side, then?”
No. But don’t let that stop you believing in fairy tales.
Mind you, this strange Catholic desire to stick their fingers into places that they are not wanted might explain the behaviour of Priests.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
> David Fisher has written of nothing else other than Kim Dotcon
Whale, how does a tweet by KDC suddenly implicate Fisher who’s probably lying on a beach somewhere? You’re as bad as David.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Lighten up David. It’s the season to by JOLLY.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
Maybe he meant on the crucifix as in the scene from the movie Passchendaele?
Yes, I know, populist shite movie, but the battle scenes are amongst the most incredible Ive seen.
Sorry, back on topic
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
I zee no proplem with zis.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
I wonder if this is a strategy, Keep in the public eye right through to the end, remember we tend to forget who was in last weeks news. He would’ve had my respect if he didn’t throw himself about, we are still a nation of “Keep it tight” but instead he has taken it to the facebook level. If he can relaunch a second cable laying then he’s only giving the rest of us better access in the not too distant future.
He could do with a few walks in our native bush, it might get him out of the gamer psyche and might get him into a gym somewhere otherwise he looks repulsive to most offhand appraisals.
Business is business but now he is a major public figure whether you love him or hate him, he can capitalize on it by trimming down, getting tanned and become the nations next couple to watch, Why not? We went silly over the Hobbit opening.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
“We went silly over the Hobbit opening.”
We certainly did- And hasn’t everyone gone deathly quiet now that the movie has turned out to be a steaming dog turd and panned by critics worldwide?
Vote:Perhaps Kim Dotcom should shack up with Sally Ridge to whip up the media frenzy again?
December 30th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Um, longknives, panned, really? It hasnt, and it isnt. But then maybe on your planet its different?
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:37 pm
I don’t read listen to or watch mainstream media, so I wouldn’t know what most people are talking about in respect of their relationship with Dotcom.
I do know though that most of what the government has done to this guy has been illegal and as a result of what looks like the Key government’s sycophantic desire to please Barack Obama and his Hollywood financial backers.
The illegal government actions would seem to be the real issue, rather than if he’s being favoured by the local left wing media. If there is any such media attention, Key and National brought it upon themselves by signing off on this whole over the top charade.
Swat teams and helicopters, and property invasion and property theft all for alleged copyright infringement that should be a civil issue anyway.
Disgusting, and the kind of thing you would expect in the defunct Soviet Union, but not a supposedly free and democratic western country.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Methinks someone ate all the loaves and fishes himself rather than sharing them with the multitude.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
I recently read an article from a link here about him and the allusion to Nz legal system interfering in U.S extradition orders.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
I would give Crim.Com more creedence if he genuinely let someone crucify him.
Pathetic, and he’s a bloody Finn …people seem to have forgotten that.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Heh he heh…
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
He’s not the Messiah, he’s just a very naughty boy.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
I actually thought that it would only take two police cars, Four police officers to arrest him and even then it would’ve looked a tad too much but not completely Whacko over the top raid like they did way out there in drug dealing Coatesville, a lot of P labs out there, one never knows what company a guy like that might have. Once the story broke i thought “Oh no, we just shot ourselves in the foot” regardless of his influencing local politicians we still pulled the trigger on ourselves.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 6:12 pm
If Jesus was proselytising today, would he have a blog? How would he go with copyright of the Old Testament?
There’s no mistaking Herr Dotcomm for the Messiah. You’d need a steel cross set in reinforced concrete to hold up Kim Dotcomm.
By the way is the Kiwiblog poster Dotcomm a follower of Kim?
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 6:14 pm
ross69 said
Yeah, of course ross; just like when he made that joke about rape, and the one about the holocaust.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Not for the dreary socialists of Aotearoa its not:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8128866/Bastards-booze-wheres-our-sense-of-humour
The two most humourless creatures you will ever find are socialists and feminists. It is about time they were subjected to the public ridicule and derision they so richly deserve. Such people should be held to account and treated with contempt.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Ros69 @ 5:21
Makes a change from lying to the public.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Oh come now, he gets a free pass for the
no?
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
so over dot com. his PR team need a punch to the face.
doing their best to make him a hero. it wont impact his next court date. enjoy the US judicial system asshole
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Supporters of the National Partyare lashing out at Kim Dotcom because he showed that that party is weak and in the thrall of overseas vested interests including Hollywood
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
I guess this is what happens when the media fellate you continuously (witness the masses of stories written just about a tweet announcing a press conference in a month’s time!). Comparing yourself to Jesus, especially at Christmas time, is rather over the top.
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Meow, hssst, scratch.
Actually he didn’t liken himself to Jesus. He mearly parodied the rebirth of Christ by comparing that event to the rebirth of Mega.
Well haven’t seen anything amuzing nor inciteful from anybody else lately. Pollies all gone offshore and left the mess.
Banks of course will be rolling up to Pray for Forgiveness for selling Dot.com his mate down the river,not.
As RB said you creeping socilalists and control freaks need to move out and give us back our country.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Jesus just up set a few Romans and puppet Temple personal, but he didn’t have a 72 page indictment issued against him by the Court of Eastern Virginia
Vote:Krim Dotcom
December 30th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
You’re right Viking.
Its putrid to observe.
Apparently the only ones left in NZ are the far left and the extreme left, and what we are witnessing is the daily fight for supremacy between these two factions.
Principle and sound political policy all lost in a cynical and desperate struggle for power before an audience of mostly uninformed navel gazing imbeciles.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Quite so Yvonne; Herr Schmitz (aka Dotcom, aka Bester) has yet to be able to explain that little Inconvenient Truth away. And despite saying on one hand that he wants his day in court to clear his name, he refuses to voluntarily go to the USA to have that day in court. He is indeed a man of contradictions and paradoxes.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
To be fair, the US justice system is such that even a completely innocent person would do well to avoid it a all costs.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 8:23 pm
Ah, Dotcom, the crook that the other crook (Banks) forgot to remember. The former Auckland mayor should’ve been sacked by his boss (the piss-weak Smile-and-wave).
All self-inflicted lies and wounds with a political price attached.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 8:54 pm
KS.
None of us would have a problem with Dotcom going to court if the court case was a civil case that it should be. But no your lovely mates at the FBI (destroyers of freedom) have turned this into a criminal case by stretching the Law and the Truth.
But I’m not surpised that socilialists of your persuasion simply cannot see the difference.
Yvette.
Jesus was indicted and sentenced to die by the same type of court.
One, which was afraid of the truth and was too weak to uphold its own principles.
he didn’t have a 72 page indictment issued against him by the Court of Eastern Virginia
But it was spoken just the same. An indictment is a one sided version of the story. No facts are tested and no other side is told. The indictment presumes guilt before any test. An indictment that has already been shown to be an entrapment.
Would you go willingly to justice like that?
The Yanks seem to like that way of justice. Bordering on Naziism.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
I see this religious argument playing out before the Pope:
Vote:Pope: “What in God’s name possessed you to paint a picture of the Last Supper with three Christs in it?”
Leonardo: “It works, mate”.
Pope: “It does not work”!
Leonardo: “It does: the fat one [Dotcom] balances the two skinny ones [Key and Banks]“!
December 30th, 2012 at 9:55 pm
The Obvious:
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December 30th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Some people are a little too sensitive.
Vote:One would think he had just drawn a cartoon of Mohammad!
December 30th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
“Some people are a little too sensitive.”
C’mon the over the top hostility towards Dotcom from the National Party cheer squad (Whale Oil Kiwiblog etc) is all down to his blowing the whistle on John Banks.
Vote:December 30th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
The animosity shown toward Dotcom by the Labour lite minions and yes-men has all to do with the piss-poor job their “leader” did in handling the issue (he forgot, didn’t recall, avoided to sack Banks, etc, etc).
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 12:33 am
Must admit that Kim Dotcom is most definitely Bigger than Jesus
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 7:48 am
Hmm! Some fascinating viewpoints expressed herein. Like many others, I’ve watched the Dotcom saga roll on with some bewilderment.
After all, does any of this matter?
I’ve concluded that – as in many other instances – this trivia has gripped NZer’s imagination because – wait for it – nothing ever happens here!!! And when something nearly does – Wow!! Look out!.
Don’t get me wrong! I’m not knocking NZ. Far from it! In fact i emigrated here in ’74 for the very reason that nothing of any consequence ever happens here.
So when something nearly, or almost, happens – like all this irrelevant Dotcom nonsense – the country is mesmerised and the blogs/airwaves/press/TV are full of it.
Go back to sleep NZ, its better that way!!
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 8:16 am
@ Viking2 – so you’ve done a thorough legal review of the evidence presented against Dotcom, have you? Or are you just seduced by the charm offensive through the medias, which when Dotcom is left to his own devices (e.g. let loose on Twitter), he manages to screw up?
Megaupload paid people to provide unique content. They did not question where the content came from, even though they would have been only too away that the vast bulk of the content was obtained illegally. People then paid a subscription to Megaupload to access the unique/illegally obtained content without having to pay to access each movie or music file. And because people then didn’t have to pay to buy or go and watch the unique/illegally obtained content, those whose intellectual property was involved missed out on revenue.
Let’s say you were a car dealer, importing cars from Japan. How would you feel if a bloke set up a yard opposite yours where people could pay an annual subscription of much less than the price of one of your cars, then go to him and get another car whenever they wanted, shutting off your source of income? That’s how Dotcom operated. He got light-fingered people to pirate content for him, paying them a pittance, then on-sold it to the masses who subscribed, all under the veneer of a “file-sharing service”. The whole operation is based around dishonesty and greed.
If Dotcom wants his day in court, and wants to prove that the allegations against him and his mates are a crock of shite, all he has to do is tell the court in NZ that he will voluntarily go to the US. Then we will all know whether Megaupload was kosher or not. So why won’t he do it? Ask yourself that question, and answer honestly
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 8:25 am
I think it’s you setting yourself up in a ‘god’ like position Keeping Stock. Why should dotcom voluntary go to the states, to satisfy you? Do you think you are above the Law in some ‘heavenly’ form and able to criticize the progress of democracy – due process? You’re progressing alarmingly to the left.
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 8:53 am
Keeping Stock-
You and your crooked socialist cronies sucked 10 million out of Dotcom for his residency. Going to give it back to him are you?
Secondly, he hasn’t been convicted of anything yet and the charges are not substantiated and have arisen by means of a corrupt and flawed process.
Dotcom has no obligation to go anywhere. No surprise though that a NZ citizenship and due process would mean so little to you, a frantic Nat party poodle.
Anyone else think that Whale Oil ridiculing this guy as overweight is a bit hypocritical?
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 9:13 am
Balanced Media is called Feral Herald.
Vote:Pack of bloody amateurs – will go like the SST – puff!!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 9:17 am
Great to see the Standard writers having been kicked out of that site have decided to join in Kiwiblog where their views will always be heard.
Vote:Welcome shaggers.
December 31st, 2012 at 9:25 am
Paulus-
You are the one who looks more like a commie.
Putting due process and a fair hearing aside for political advantage,
Its what Joe Stalin was known for.
I regret that Dotcom is being used as a political football by the left but this does not mean he is denied process.
Unless you are a National party suckhole apparently.
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 10:14 am
KS.
Wrong.
Megaupload was a storage service whioch others could use and share what they stored.
That other chose to rise to incentives to use the service and in doing so illegally pirated material is harldy the fault of the landlord.
You should also note that the storage service was also used by thousands of legitimate users who have been denied their legal owned material. There’s a hypocrisay for a start.
The FBI have “stolen” that material and tend to do with it what they will decide. xcept that there is a court fight to a. prevent
that illegal use and to force the FBI to return the stolen property.
You completely ignore this side of the business because like the FBI and most other whinging socialists it simply doesn’t suit you to aknowledge it because it blows your bullshit away.
As for reading the FBI indictment. Well that’s well uider dispute as we reffered to earlier.
Having been late this year involved with another legitmate business enterprise in the USA that was closed by the SEC, without any consultation with the business owners, in which thousands have had their cash frozen and then given to recievers to spend, (and they have indicated some 60 million in cash that belonged to members of the business will all go in their expenses.). I have little regard for process in the USA and frankly would consider it to be the most unfreindly business country I know.
The SEC have since admitted their culpability but there will be no recompense and no return to the members of that organization. Arsewipes to the extreme.
So fuck off with your whinning supoport of the Yankee establishment.
Vote:Until they are imnmediately accountable for their actions they are as bad as Stalin. Terrorists of the State.
December 31st, 2012 at 10:22 am
At least Dotcom ran a website – what has Jesus done lately?
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 10:23 am
As bad as Stalin. Really???? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 11:17 am
Redbaiter said
Dotcom is not a New Zealand citizen RB. Nor, with the current charges pending and his past criminal convictions, is he likely to become one any time soon, as he fails the good character test.
@Viking2 – do you REALLY believe that the fee for uploading unique content was anything other than an incentive for people to pirate the intellectual property of others. I am well aware that Megaupload was a data warehouse, but that was merely a front for the real money-maker; the sale of subscriptions to access content that users would otherwise have to purchase individually. Surely you, as a champion of free enterprise would be aghast at those who made movies, records etc being denied the opportunity to make money from their efforts.
That innocent people have been caught up in all of this is unfortunate. However I do not consider Kim Dotcom to be one of those innocents. He claims that the allegations against him are false, and that he wants his day in court. Let him have it, and we’ll see who is right and who is wrong.
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 11:33 am
“As bad as Stalin.”
Not what I said you uneducated socialist stooge. Take a course in comprehension.
Jesus Christ save us from these thick as brick progressive knuckle draggers.
The country is full of them.
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 11:37 am
Surely you, as a champion of free enterprise would be aghast at those who made movies, records etc being denied the opportunity to make money from their efforts.
It’s a civil matter.
And John Key should resign for the abuse of process, the spying and the police state action.
All to seek the favour of Barack Obama and his Hollywood donors.
Disgraceful.
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 11:38 am
No, I was quoting what V2 said.
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 11:43 am
“Surely you, as a champion of free enterprise would be aghast at those who made movies, records etc being denied the opportunity to make money from their efforts.”
It’s a civil matter.
And John Key should resign for the abuse of process, the spying and the police state action.
All to seek the favour of Barack Obama and his Hollywood donors.
Disgraceful.
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 11:49 am
“No, I was quoting what V2 said.”
OK I apologise.
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 11:49 am
Thanks
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 4:24 pm
@Viking2 – do you REALLY believe that the fee for uploading unique content was anything other than an incentive for people to pirate the intellectual property of others. I am well aware that Megaupload was a data warehouse, but that was merely a front for the real money-maker; the sale of subscriptions to access content that users would otherwise have to purchase individually. Surely you, as a champion of free enterprise would be aghast at those who made movies, records etc being denied the opportunity to make money from their efforts.
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KS. No not really.
For they were not denied any oppourtunity at all. They were simply out manouvred in the game of life. Had they been operating in 2012 instead of 1912 then they would not have this issue. Plenty do. Just not the yankee film and music industry, They prefer to rort people to support their aging and costly distribution system rather than make much more money by being customer focussed and fulfulling the customers needs/wants in 2012/3.
Mega paid incentives for traffic. Most bloggers etc want traffic so if I pay adwords for traffic is that wrong? If I buy traffic from a traffic generator is that wrong. The generator of the trafic isn’t selling what I may be selling, they are supplying traffic, i.e. customers. So if I sell say, porn, is that their respsonsibilty?
Apart from that it remains a civil action in every country except under the FBI rules of the USA. To accuse mega of laundering money that is from a bona fide transaction because the film and music industry refuse to use their civil law to attend to the problem and use that as a criminal excuse is an abuse of process (as has been established), and smacks of both political and criminal interference in the natural rule of law.
Further the continuing withholding of other persons information and in some cases their work, is bloody appalling.
According to you collaterall damage is just a casualty of war. Well many of those casualties, (customers of Mega),wouldn’t share your selfish view.
Withholding of evidence is also a travesty. Again already ruled unlawfull in our courts. So until the FBI front up with the evidence and make both that and the other goods stored available to the other customers of mega, then the FBI are no better than low life theives.
Vote:Clearly they ain’t the stuff of TV FBI.
December 31st, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Rodders.
Vote:Stalin purged people who didn’t share his view of how things should be.
Isn’t that what the FBI are doing as agent for the film and music industry?
State sanctioned removal of another business.
December 31st, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Can’t agree with you there, V2.
If we consider (for example) the position of musicians who displeased Stalin –
public humiliation, restriction of movement, banning of performances, loss of livelihood.
Musicians were the lucky ones as they managed to survive to tell the tale.
Is there really a parallel to the FBI pursuing someone over alleged copyright infringement?
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 6:14 pm
I have a feeling V2 will find it hard to back down on this one.
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 7:22 pm
Except FBI act as an agent of the state. When that agent prosecutes a civil matter as a crime then its a very greasy slope.
Even MM might grasp that small detail, perhaps.
Vote:But then maybe not.
December 31st, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Perhaps you could read this from WOBH. Might just indicate to you the kinda festering rotteness that is currently the USA.
To quote Mark Steyn: “If the People’s Republic carries on buying American debt at the rate it has in recent times, then within a few years U.S. interest payments on that debt will be covering the entire cost of the Chinese armed forces.”
Imagine: through debt interest, soon American taxpayers will be funding 100 per cent of the Chinese military.
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2012/12/still-more-reasons-why-canada-isnt-falling-off-the-fiscal-cliff/
Vote:December 31st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
V2
Vote:You claimed earlier that the FBI was ‘as bad as Stalin. Terrorists of the State’. Rodders pointed out that the FBI pursuing copyright infringement as a criminal rather than a civil matter hardly warranted that comparison. I merely predicted that you would find it hard to back away from that statement. Until you do, I shall continue to find your twisting and turning exceptionally humorous.