General Debate 24 December 2012

December 24th, 2012 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Pete George (23,123 comments) says:

    Clare Curran initiated a hamper appeal for Hillside workers, she claimed credit for handing them out last week – but she is distancing herself from deciding who to gove them to despite acknowledging she knew not all workers would get one.

    And at least two workers weren’t given hampers, and Curran was aware of this – “no we won’t see what we can do because you are a National supporter and a scabber”. Clare was on hand and observed the the discussion.

    The ODT report:

    She ”understood” some workers would not get hampers but said she did not ask why, and did not know whether hampers were only given to union members. She said she would not be taking any action.

    So she takes credit but avoids responsibility and won’t do anything about it.

    All workers are equal, but some workers are more equal than others? Hillside hampering.

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  2. Steve (North Shore) (4,516 comments) says:

    Hillside Tampering. What else do you expect from the Nasty Party and the vile Curran?

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  3. Viking2 (11,215 comments) says:

    Ah, lots of gentle life sustaining rain this morning.
    Eat ya heart out Naaska.

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  4. Viking2 (11,215 comments) says:

    People like Curran are best left in the gutter of vileness and despair that they so noisily promote.

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  5. Viking2 (11,215 comments) says:

    Also says something about the others that worked at hillside that they would allow their Union to behave in such a way. Hope they go on the dole forever. They then might learn not to bite the hand that always feeds them as oppossed to the hand that only feed some.

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  6. David Garrett (6,639 comments) says:

    Viking: Yes, very pleasant out here in Rodney also….bit humid though, I am worried about late blight on the tomatoes…harvested some new potatoes yesterday…excellent size and taste…beans going bountifully mad…

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  7. nasska (10,819 comments) says:

    V2

    Drizzling here….better than nothing but so far I’ve managed to resist any urges to dance naked in the paddocks. :)

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  8. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    A step closer to Sharia law: http://rt.com/news/egypt-referendum-approves-constitution-670/

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  9. thedavincimode (6,573 comments) says:

    nasska

    Don’t you get anything out of those easterlies? Too far south?

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  10. Viking2 (11,215 comments) says:

    Not stretching very far thopugh DG.

    http://www.metvuw.com/radar/radar.php?location=nz

    Still the vegie growers round Auckland will be happy.

    Blight DG is like criminals. Always about. Just need disinfecting.

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  11. thedavincimode (6,573 comments) says:

    very pleasant out here in Rodney

    Don’t you mean in Auckland City?

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  12. Scott Chris (5,940 comments) says:

    Here’s my favourite Xmas song sung by (gasp) Celine Dion. Don’t be put off; she really nails it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm2t9-YNDSQ

    Have a good day tomorrow. Be nice.

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  13. nasska (10,819 comments) says:

    thedavincimode

    It depends largely on what part of the Wairarapa you’re in as to where your rain comes from. A mate of mine owns a sheep station on the coast east of Martinborough & summer easterlies & southerlies do it for him. I’m hard under the Tararuas, up a valley sheltered from the South. It’s generally regarded as summersafe country but very reliant on rain from the west & northwest.

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  14. Pete George (23,123 comments) says:

    Credit where it’s due. a great win by the Black Caps, a four needed off the last ball for a win and a century for Guptill and he delivers. Very well done. Munro played his part well to.

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  15. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Celine Dion?? Argghhhhhhh.
    It confirms your taste in music is as shocking as your politics. :D

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  16. Nookin (3,138 comments) says:

    Well done Guptill and Black caps.

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  17. Viking2 (11,215 comments) says:

    Ah you mean like this Naaska

    http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/8/girl-striptease-in-the-rain-1004094

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  18. Keeping Stock (10,161 comments) says:

    Stunning form reversal from the Black Caps. And what a superb knock from Martin Guptill; 101 not out, and the winning boundary off the final ball.

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  19. nasska (10,819 comments) says:

    V2

    I’ll be off line for a while…..got to build me one of those phone boxes for the house paddock & get it stocked. :)

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  20. Viking2 (11,215 comments) says:

    Black Caps win thriller
    DUNCAN JOHNSTONE
    Last updated 08:58 24/12/2012

    BREAKING NEWS: Martin Guptill’s unbeaten century has steered New Zealand to a thrilling Twenty20 international cricket win over South Africa in East London this morning.

    Chasing a revised target of 169 after South Africa scored a power cut interrupted innings of 169, Guptill produced a triple play on the last ball, hitting a four, winning the match and bringing up his maiden Twenty20 international century.

    Guptill finished on 101 not out off 69 balls.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/8115109/Black-Caps-win-thriller

    And we got the rai9n as well.
    Yea Gods the world is a changin.

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  21. Don the Kiwi (1,633 comments) says:

    Manolo,

    Wash your mouth out – Celine Dion is great.

    Arguably, one of the very few things I agree with Scott Chris on. :-)

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  22. Scott Chris (5,940 comments) says:

    Manolo, I’m not a fan of Celine Dion either, but then, I’m not as narrow minded as some.

    On another note:

    Blackcaps bring on spin from both ends

    Yesterday chief executive David White admitted NZ Cricket is using the services of Deadline Limited – whose directors are former TVNZ head of news Bill Ralston and Janet Wilson, who has previously advised Act MP John Banks.

    Oh dear…

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  23. Keeping Stock (10,161 comments) says:

    Nice moment in the post-match interview as Martin Guptill thanked Ross Taylor for the batting tips and support. Not only was his a classy innings; Guptill is a class bloke as well, and a good friend for the dumped skipper.

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2012/12/yes.html

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  24. thedavincimode (6,573 comments) says:

    Manolo

    +10

    Just a screecher.

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  25. Scott Chris (5,940 comments) says:

    In what is most likely a futile attempt to reach the few remaining vestiges of sentimentality and humanity in Manolo, here’s the Muppets doing the 12 days of Christmas:

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  26. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Morning Scott.
    Seeing John Denver reminds me of this – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_o2prHy4Ho

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  27. Scott Chris (5,940 comments) says:

    Morning Rodders – Hardy har. No doubt you’ll remember this:

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  28. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Much better, Scott Chris, much better.
    The Muppets are always enjoyable (not that so in NZ politics.)

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  29. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    Scott – Fair Dinkum, mate?

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  30. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Unadulterated scum (who gets away with it): http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/23/tawana-brawley-found-living-in-virginia-under-alias-25-years-after-rape-hoax/

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  31. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    Scumbag…prisoners give away their rights, what next..moaning about double bunkering..oh wait..

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8115437/Career-crim-toasts-smoke-ban-ruling

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  32. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    d’oh ! ” bunking “…

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  33. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    mornin…starboard.

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  34. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    mornin rodney…

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  35. Viking2 (11,215 comments) says:

    http://screencast.com/t/CnwIdYQ2bm6

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  36. Sofia (825 comments) says:

    A payout figure [$2m or whatever] for David Bain should be established, then subjected to a Conscience Vote of Parliament, reducing that amount to the percentage of YES votes that he receive some compensation. Abstentions not counted.

    If this seems an inappropriate solution, it suggests
    • Parliament is not the highest court in the land
    • No member possesses the sense to vote on information before them in a Conscience Vote.
    • No member properly represents those who voted them into power.
    • That all Conscience Votes are a fucking waste of time.

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  37. Don the Kiwi (1,633 comments) says:

    “A payout figure [$2m or whatever] for David Bain should be established”

    That’ll be the bloody day – he shouldn’t get a bloody cent!

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  38. dime (9,603 comments) says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LP4-7VQV42k – Dimes fav xmas song.

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  39. dime (9,603 comments) says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJHDkKxtAn0 – another xmas classic… the 2 min mark being the best bit :D

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  40. Left Right and Centre (2,861 comments) says:

    Morning campers… hi de hi….

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/8114604/Timaru-womans-35kg-cyst-could-be-record

    *Sharon Watts had no idea she was carrying the 35 kilogram ovarian cyst around until last Thursday when she was admitted to Timaru Hospital with stomach pains.*

    Think about how much you weigh now. Would you notice something that ends up adding 35kg to your body and bodyweight? I think I would. Would you put it down to weight gain from overeating? Even when I was 98kg in September… ending up 133kg without changing what you eat would be ridiculous. I hope I’d twig well before 133kg.

    She had no idea. None. She was wearing a 5XL T-shirt and couldn’t understand why. She just thought she was putting on weight from overeating. Ok, I’ll let her have that one. Cyst is the less likely of the two. Still….

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  41. dime (9,603 comments) says:

    the Hobbit didnt have a great week in the US. only 36 mil… 433 worldwide though.

    im predicting a 750 finish..

    new bond close to doing a billion dollars.

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  42. bhudson (4,736 comments) says:

    dime,

    Perhaps this Christmas special is more your thing…

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  43. Left Right and Centre (2,861 comments) says:

    Do the blog rules say no socialising on here? Only political issues? I can’t see anything in the posting policy against it.

    What does xmas mean to you? What’s your attitude towards xmas?

    And what have you got lined up?

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  44. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Humorous and informative

    Robert Newman gets to grips with the wars and politics of the last hundred years – but rather than adhering to the history we were fed at school, he places oil centre stage as the cause of all commotion.

    This innovative history programme is based around Robert Newman’s stand-up act and supported by resourceful archive sequences and stills with satirical impersonations of historical figures from Mayan priests to Archduke Ferdinand.

    Quirky details such as a bicycle powered street lamp on the stage brings home the pertinent question of just how we are going to survive when the world’s oil supplies are finally exhausted.

    http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/energy/oil-and-war.html

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  45. cha (3,823 comments) says:

    The inimitable Shane MacGowan with the late Kirsty MacColl.

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  46. KevinH (1,141 comments) says:

    Somethng from the Herald that may cause John Banks to choke on his Christmas cake:

    “Newly released Treasury papers show it was sceptical about the chances charter schools will improve student performance and warned they could affect nearby schools by sucking away teachers and students, and therefore funding.

    In a report to Finance Minister Bill English in July, just before Mr Banks took charter schools to Cabinet, Treasury said it was “doubtful” about Mr Banks’ claims that it would help achieve better NCEA results.

    The papers also show Treasury sided with the Ministry of Education when it warned about the perils of allowing more unregistered teachers at charter schools than state schools – something Mr Banks has proposed. It said quality teaching was the most important factor on student achievement and teacher registration, “while not perfect”, provided some assurance of quality.”

    KevinH:
    There is mounting evidence from Treasury that Charter schools are a dead duck, a non goer, so what are John Bank’s motives for pushing through with his proposals despite the evidence?
    Is Mr Bank’s acting on behalf of a third party who may already be engaged in the education sector but is looking for a bigger slice of the cake?

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  47. backster (2,103 comments) says:

    KEV:……If that is all true then no-one will want to start or teach or attend Charter schools. If not true then it will be possible to compare results with standard schools in a few years. Standard Schools will have the added advantage of having adopted the National Standards scheme. …..See you and Penny Public Watchdog are mistaken,everybody wins.

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  48. hj (6,593 comments) says:

    Researchers from Toyota Central Research and Development Laboratories performed an independent replication of a Mitsubishi low-energy nuclear reaction transmutation experiment, according to a physicist from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries speaking at the American Nuclear Society LENR session on Nov. 14 in San Diego, Calif.

    The physicist, Yasuhiro Iwamura, told the ANS audience that the Toyota researchers confirmed that nuclear changes from one element to another took place without the use of high-energy nuclear physics. Most scientists who have not followed this field closely consider such profound claims inconceivable. Toyota used a LENR deuterium-permeation transmutation method that Iwamura invented.

    Iwamura has been working with this LENR method for 14 years. He said that one of his LENR transmutations was closely but not identically replicated by Toyota. Osaka University and Iwate University previously reported similar replications.
    http://news.newenergytimes.net/2012/12/06/mitsubishi-reports-toyota-replication/

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  49. Left Right and Centre (2,861 comments) says:

    Twas the day before xmas… shop at your own risk:

    1) You can’t get through to the feral underclass. Parked next to me at ‘peasants R us groceries’ a car with three adultless brown children ranging in age from about 3-4 to maybe 8-9. Youngest was in a car seat. Adult comes back from a quick trip to get about ten of those cheap multi-packs of full sugar little fizzy drink bottles. She’s even got the nutrition sorted out.

    I asked her, with a deliberate slight nonchalence, if she started off with more kids once and lost a few along the way through neglect. I’m paraphrasing myself.

    2) Bought some xmas candy cane crap from a cheap bin… sign said all the items were ’2 for 1′. Looked at my receipt… charged for both. Five minutes waiting and filling out my personal details for a simple refund. It’s super busy so no problem. Point being… how many people would miss being charged incorrectly? Looks like a scam that can be too easily passed off as an ‘honest mistake’ to me. Got to watch them!!

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  50. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Hindsight is a wonderful thing: http://www.france24.com/en/20121223-romney-didnt-want-run-president-son-says

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  51. Longknives (4,620 comments) says:

    Merry Christmas fellow Kiwibloggers….

    http://thebrigade.thechive.com/2011/12/19/santa-way-over-delivered-this-year-40-hq-photos/

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  52. wat dabney (3,714 comments) says:

    Those well-known education experts, the Treasury…

    What?

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  53. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    L R and C…I check my supermarket receipt every time I shop at P&S or Count/D and I constantly find I am over charged for items be it something on special and they haven’t passed the discount on to me or just plain over charged.

    It happens too regularly for my liking.

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  54. trout (912 comments) says:

    I don’t like to rain on the parade of the fans but the Black Cap game looked like a fix to me. Dropped catch, bring the boundary riders in on the off side (all that was needed was to save a four) and bowl a full toss just outside off stump. The Black Caps are being allowed to win in series where their incompetence threatens the gate takings. Besides that an unlikely win is a good earner for the players.

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  55. Longknives (4,620 comments) says:

    Trout- Twenty Twenty ‘Hit and Giggle’ cricket is a joke and an absolute lottery. Upsets like this can and do happen quite regularly…
    In the Test match at Cape Town a full strength South Africa will beat New Zealand within three days…

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  56. nasska (10,819 comments) says:

    Police have warned that three sheep taken from a paddock west of Christchurch last night are unfit for human consumption due to high levels of vaccine in their systems.

    That’s okay…..there’s good reason to believe that they weren’t stolen for food anyway.

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  57. thedavincimode (6,573 comments) says:

    nasska

    You need to move closer to coast. There aren’t any crays under the Tararuas. :)

    Have a good Xmas.

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  58. nasska (10,819 comments) says:

    Same to you Davinci.

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  59. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    trout

    re:The New Zealand Cricket team efforts

    even ugly people pull the odd fuck, I will be impressed if we are competitive in a test match.

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  60. Johnboy (15,377 comments) says:

    I haven’t been to Christchurch in years and can prove it!

    Who the fuck would want to go there other than Gerry? :)

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  61. nasska (10,819 comments) says:

    Is it still bestiality if the sheep makes the first move?

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  62. Johnboy (15,377 comments) says:

    I call that love! :)

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  63. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    You must be a proud Cantabrian, Johnboy.

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  64. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Chrissy Carter, Ardern and Horomia would be doing the same, longing for comrade Clark’s return.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-22/stalin-s-statue-restored-as-georgians-recall-happier-times-.html

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  65. cha (3,823 comments) says:

    Some aviation oddities for you JB.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Bomberguy?feature=watch

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  66. Johnboy (15,377 comments) says:

    Merry Christmas Folks.

    I’m being patriotic and having a nice leg of lamb for Xmas dinner tomorrow! :)

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  67. big bruv (13,450 comments) says:

    A merry Xmas to all Kiwibloggers on this secular holiday. I hope you all have a great day and remember that today is all about family and giving.

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  68. BlairM (2,303 comments) says:

    Christmas has been a Christian festival for nearly 1700 years now, so if you still don’t like it then don’t be such a sourpuss and keep it to yourself.

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