Unacceptable

December 12th, 2012 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

The “struggling mother” who harangued Invercargill mayor Tim Shadbolt for almost 10 minutes on television was actually Environment Southland’s chairwoman .

Timms admitted the deception when confronted by a journalist yesterday.

She said she had done it as a practical joke . . . and when questioned further, Timms hung up on the reporter.

The call was made to the city council’s live talkback show on Cue TV last Wednesday night. Timms claimed to be “Ruby”, a mother of two who was struggling to make ends meet after her husband had been laid off from the Tiwai Point aluminium smelter.

Timms is an elected official. To pretend to be someone else to have a go at another elected official is just dishonest and unacceptable. She should resign – or her Coucnil Council should sack her.

Around 20 years ago John Carter did a prank call. But that at least was done in humour, not as a political attack. And he did get sacked as senior whip for it.

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30 Responses to “Unacceptable”

  1. Kea (12,837 comments) says:

    Based on some of the reasoning I have seen around the hilarious prank call from the DJ’s, Timms should be charged with attempted murder/manslaughter. It is an aggravating factor that it was done to embarass a person, unlike the DJ’s who were doing it in fun.

    I will be expecting those hysterical vicious people to be condeming Timms and crying out for a criminal penalty, all over this thread.

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  2. louie (96 comments) says:

    Sounds like Environment Southland should get the same treatment that Environment Canterbury did.

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  3. Lance (2,655 comments) says:

    I went down to visit some friends in Southland many years ago. The people I knew are definitely centre right and complain about anything and everything, especially politics. Their pet hate was how Labour fucked up the schools in Southland as an experiment where they did away with intermediate schools.

    Well blow me down if they didn’t think Tim Shadbolt was the best thing since sliced bread.

    Tim the miracle worker.

    So I am sure this no-hoper was trying their best to create some smear against a very popular major.

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  4. slightlyright (93 comments) says:

    There were better ways to go about it, but I think the sentiment was in the right place, the South in particularl ICC operates a bit like Tim’s personal fiefdom, he has them over a barrel because they are sold on the idea he is Invercargill, what other mayor has a personal $300k marketing budget! Effectively what we get is here is an idea, lets bleed the money out from all corners, licensing trust, community trust, Venture Southland etc… bugger all feasibility analysis but Tim thinks its great so lets go with it, I acknowledge and credit Tim (AND OTHERS) for the hits e.g. Fastest Indian and SIT Zero Fees, but we hear very little about the misses. For example how many people know Invercargill Airport has a perfectly set up international departure facility upstairs gathering dust because Tim’s outlandish Invercargill International Airport Plan fell on its ass, complete waste of money and tip of the iceberg

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  5. Kea (12,837 comments) says:

    Where are you Nookin, smttc, Nostalgia, RRM, etc ?

    Why are you not putting on a pantomime of fake outrage over this?

    Tim might “kill himself” !!!

    Or maybe you are all just full of shit. You are all humourless vile little freaks, just looking for any excuse to drag down others to your level of bleakness. I assume that Timms is (already) sufficiently miserable and bitter, not to incur your collective wrath.

    I wonder why this post is not entitled the, Hoax Call Tragedy ?

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  6. peterwn (3,271 comments) says:

    Kea – I think Tim is quite capable of wreaking sweet revenge here – he knows all the low animal cunning tricks. He would have sufficient allies on the Regional Council to like life miserable for the Chair or even to unseat her.

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  7. DingleyDell (7 comments) says:

    She should go. Someone else will be able to tidy up the cesspit that is Environment Southland

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  8. RRM (9,919 comments) says:

    Good to see grown up attitudes and professionalism so fully alive and well in the elected officials of our regional councils. [Joke.]

    Did she miss that whole Environment Canterbury fracas ~ where a bunch of dysfunctional idiots got warned that they needed to up their game if they don’t want to be replaced by commissioners; and they didn’t, so they were?

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  9. fredinthegrass (273 comments) says:

    She is ‘hoist by her own petard’.
    Definitely needs to be sacked as “chair” at the very least.
    But then this is the standard of leadership her council reflects in its deliberations.

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  10. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    ethics dont enter a lefties mind when they think they are in the right.

    10 mins? must have just been ranting and telling a lot of lies. fire her.

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  11. KevinH (1,227 comments) says:

    From the Environment Southland website:

    http://www.es.govt.nz/your-council/our-people/ali-timms/

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  12. Kea (12,837 comments) says:

    Kea – I think Tim is quite capable of wreaking sweet revenge here – he knows all the low animal cunning tricks. He would have sufficient allies on the Regional Council to like life miserable for the Chair or even to unseat her.

    No.

    The ONLY possible thing he can do is KILL HIMSELF and it will be all Timms fault.

    I am not smart enough to know why, or how, that line of reasoning works. But Nookin, smttc, Nostalgia, RRM, know and went to great lengths explaining it all yesterday. Tim is forced to kill himself. There is simply no other option for poor Tim.

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  13. Paulus (2,627 comments) says:

    Leave it to Mayor Tim to get UTU when he is ready.

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  14. RRM (9,919 comments) says:

    Up top it says 12 responses to “Unacceptable” but I only count 9.

    I guess Harriet or Kea must be active on this thread??

    Thanks RIP for making Kiwiblog a much better place 8-)

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  15. Kea (12,837 comments) says:

    Thanks RIP for preventing a lefty troll from responding to my posts.

    Thanks RIP for demonstrating how open minded lefties really are. Ban/kill dissenters, its the lefty way ! LOL :)

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  16. slightlyright (93 comments) says:

    I don’ think one could call her a leftie, she is part of the Bluegreens in National, the complications is there is a 7-5 split which she leads of farmers / reasonable people and 5 fringe crazy lefty enviro extremists, Guyton et al so its a tough job for her at the best of times so I could understand at this time of year her flipping and doing something as silly as this

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  17. Liberty (267 comments) says:

    The Carter Joke was a classic
    The only ones who were not amused. The leftie Media and Jim Bolger.
    Who ate lemons for breakfast.

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  18. gump (1,647 comments) says:

    @slightlyright

    I believe that having a nearby international airport is a UCI requirement for hosting world championship events at the Invercargill Velodrome (like the recent Junior World Track Championships). So it’s not a complete waste of money.

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  19. Pete George (23,560 comments) says:

    Shadbolt’s hoax caller goes on leave
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8068301/Shadbolts-hoax-caller-goes-on-leave

    Today, her fellow Environment Southland council members said it was an “unacceptable lapse of judgment”.

    They held a session in committee at their final meeting of the year, with acting chairman Nicol Horrell issuing a statement afterwards.

    “Councillors have unanimously expressed their extreme disapproval of the unacceptable lapse of judgment shown by chairwoman Ali Timms in taking part in the Invercargill City Council’s televised talkback programme under an assumed name last week.

    “Councillors have accepted Cr Timms’ application for six weeks leave of absence, effective immediately. We expect to hold an extraordinary meeting… to consider the council’s chairmanship in late January.”

    Voluntary leave to try and avoid permanent leave?

    See how everyone feels after Christmas.

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  20. lofty (1,310 comments) says:

    Unacceptable conduct? yes probably, but having to chair a committee with 5 watermelon loony lefties on it could easily drive the poor women to a moment of madness.

    jahesuss….just having to listen to that old closet commie Guyton would be enough to drive her insane I would have thought.

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  21. DingleyDell (7 comments) says:

    Closet commie? Guyton? He has been wearing Karl Marx ties for years.

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  22. BigFish (132 comments) says:

    You have to credit Shadbolt with keeping the rest of New Zealand aware of Invercargill – whether you agree with his politics or not.
    To hear an official trying to embarrass an elected mayor in this way is bizarre to say the least.
    Despite the language this apparently hapless housewife uses it would appear her intellect, professionalism and tact are not up to the job.

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  23. Nookin (3,341 comments) says:

    Kea. You are a fuckwit. I did not say that the nurse’s death was an inevitable or even forseeable consequence of the prank. The forseeable consequences were (1) the humiliation of an innocent person and (2) the revelation of personal details. That is why I didn’t think the prank was funny. An experienced politician, activist, humorist who goes on a talkback programme is hardly comparable.

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  24. jaba (2,141 comments) says:

    good god .. I see bOb Guyton is also a councilor .. I’m sure he will be appalled about her actions

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  25. Keeping Stock (10,339 comments) says:

    The aforementioned Mr Guyton too has a track record of impersonating people. That’s why Greenfly/Village Idiot no longer comments here. It must be something in the water…

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  26. Steve (North Shore) (4,561 comments) says:

    Like him or hate him, Tim Shadbolt has a sense of humour and he would not give a rats arse about being embarassed by Ruby.

    How he controlled himself without bursting out laughing I do not know. Is this Ali Timms one of these nimby wankers?

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  27. Komata (1,191 comments) says:

    For those who are too young to remember: A certain Tim Shadbolt was an avowed Marxist and a leading anti-US agitator on behalf of the (Marxist) Socialist Unity Party et al, during the 1960’s (the so-called Vietnam era). Its always fascinated me that despite his extremely vocal anti-establishment rantings, he has now become very much the ‘Pillar of society’ which is the antithesis of everything he was so rabidly against. he has, indeed, become ‘establishment’ (and not a yellow concrete mixer in sight). Odd that.

    (BTW One has to wonder what he would do now if he was confronted by a similar ‘anti-establishment’ protest AGAINST HIM!!)

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  28. NeutralObserver (94 comments) says:

    Maybe she is just hoping in a few years to get a plum diplomatic posting.

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  29. Left Right and Centre (2,979 comments) says:

    1) This Ali Timms woman I’ve never heard of… wasn’t the greatest ‘practical joke’ the world will ever see. What can you say about this thing? How did she think that was cool/ witty/ clever/ funny? Is she a total fucking dork with a twatarse dumb sense of humour no-one else is laughing with? Dear oh dear!!

    2) I’m trying to understand this, so help me out. This all happened on something I’ve never heard of.. Cue TV. I don’t even know what that is. What I do know is that any form of TV doesn’t even run for ten mins at a time, so that’s one hell of a long call to spend on one person. So… if TS suspected or *knew* it was in fact Ali Timms posing as a fake person…. why let the call continue for ten minutes… which is an eternity on TV? He could’ve made mincemeat out of her on air surely?

    3) So ok, TS isn’t stupid and he had better and smarter reasons for keeping the call going? To maximise the humiliation potential for Timms? Why else let it go on… just in *case* it wasn’t Timms? He’d said ‘hello Ali’ during the call…. hmmmm. He wasn’t certain it was her though. Spent the extra time in case call was bone fide out of respect for circumstances of ‘caller’.

    Re: Slightlyright: So… upon reflection…. what’s the overall verdict? Invercargill is better or worse off for having had TS as mayor?

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  30. Ashley Schaeffer (487 comments) says:

    Poor judgement. Was probably drinking. Should resign.

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