Great news from the Greens

January 28th, 2013 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

Green MP blogs:

BusinessDesk said today, “Onshore Taranaki oil explorer TAG Oil is planning more than 130 new onshore wells, with 13 to be drilled in 2013 and consents sought for platforms from which another 120 could eventually be drilled.”

Not all wells will necessarily be fracked, but you can be certain that technology has made the building of these wells economically viable.

That’s great news, and a superb endorsement of fracking. Without it those well would not be viable and we’d have to import more oil from the Middle East, and have fewer jobs and lower tax revenues in NZ.

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24 Responses to “Great news from the Greens”

  1. Manolo (13,746 comments) says:

    Gareth Morgan Hughes is another Luddite oxygen thief whose comments and utterances deserve to be ignored.

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  2. hj (6,991 comments) says:

    Demonstrates why you don’t like Gareth Morgan: you see no problem with business as usual.

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  3. hj (6,991 comments) says:

    Was refering to David Farrar and his backers.

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  4. RF (1,396 comments) says:

    Am I to understand this person from the Greens is now supporting off shore drilling.

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  5. Mobile Michael (451 comments) says:

    Now every Taranaki earthquake will be blamed on fracking. Even the ones that are hundreds of kilometres lower than the wells.

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  6. kowtow (8,439 comments) says:

    The fracking will be blamed by the econuts but then some tribe or other will jump in and say their lurking monster isn’t happy and the taxpayer will fork out even more borrowed money to keep it quiet.

    Local councils,central govt,private businesses and the media all go along with this corruption,and we do too. It’s crazier than the notion of the monster in the first place.

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  7. campit (467 comments) says:

    David, with those wells we would still import the same amount of oil from the Middle East. Any oil extracted here is exported, with profits going to the oil companies that took the risk and drilled.

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  8. flipper (4,051 comments) says:

    Not oil or gas…but similar red-melon stupidity, of the kind usually embraced by Hughes and all his supporters.

    This gem from an Australisn colleague:

    ” What a freakin idiot!!
    If this wasn’t so serious it would be funny !!

    THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE MORONS IN OUR GOVERNMENT – GOD HELP US !!!!!

    [PIX]
    Peter Garrett (ex lead singer of Midnight Oil, now a Minister in the Labour Government of Australia)

    PETER GARRETT IS DEFINITELY A COUPLE OF CANS SHORT OF A SLAB [Aussie slang for a pack of 24 beer cans]!
    The Australian Government and the NSW Forestry Service were presenting an alternative to NSW sheep farmers for controlling the dingo population.

    It seems that after years of the sheep farmers using the tried and tested methods of shooting and/or trapping the predators, the Labour Government (Peter Garrett – Environmental Minister), the NSW Forestry Service and the Greens tree-huggers had a ‘more humane’ solution.

    What they proposed was for the animals to be captured alive, the males would then be castrated and, wait for it, let loose again.

    Therefore, the dingo population would be controlled.

    This was ACTUALLY proposed to the NSW Sheep Farmers Association.

    All of the sheep farmers thought about this amazing idea for a couple of minutes.

    Finally, one of the old boys in the back of the conference room stood up, tipped his hat back and said, ‘Mr Garrett, son, I don’t think you understand our problem, the dingo’s aren’t f*#king our sheep, they’re eating them.’

    You should have been there to hear the roar of laughter as Mr Peter Garrett and the members of the NSW Forestry Service, the Greens and the other ‘tree huggers’ left the meeting ‘very sheepishly’.

    Jeeesus! Someone save us from these idiots….. “

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  9. Redbaiter (8,801 comments) says:

    Tag deserves credit for taking the huge economic risk of drilling these wells, but even more credit for being prepared to do so in the face of the massive opposition to such projects stemming from the ignorance and perverted political strategies of communists like Hughes.

    If they proceed with this project Tag will have to spend a fortune in attempting to comply with hysterical environmental requirements, another fortune appeasing local land owners, another fortune buying off “effected parties”, yet another fortune buying off racist gangsters, and yet another fortune trying to counteract the propaganda of Hughes and his deceitful ilk.

    Its cute to trip up Hughes on a statement like this but the bottom line is the National Party does sweet fuck all to help oil explorers, and worse, frequently panders to those groups who are making it so difficult to drill.

    Oh well, not like the country needs overseas investment is it?

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  10. tvb (4,417 comments) says:

    Fracking is the future of energy exploration. Needless to say the Greens will oppose it as they oppose every single development. They want a primitive agrarian economy which could only support a fraction of our present population at current living standards. I assume short of a policy of genocide we will have to live happily in extreme poverty.

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  11. Naturesong (23 comments) says:

    If you actually read the blog you will see that he (and the Green Party), reiterate their call for a moratorium on fracking until the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment, Dr Jan Wright, has released her final report on the matter.

    So, wait for the report, study the details, write appropriate legislation and regulation to minimise risks to the local population, the environment, and the health and safety of those doing the actual fracturing.

    Sounds to me like good governance. How dare they!! The bastards!!

    Simply ignoring risks, or pretending there are none, often leads to failure or massive cost overruns. This is true in most endeavours, I dont see why fracking would be any different.

    Yes, it is a conservative approach, but a reasonable one under the circumstances.

    Manolo: On the Green Party being luddites.
    I don’t think this word means what you think it means.
    Their ICT policy would suggest that they are more technophile than luddite: http://www.greens.org.nz/policy/information-technology

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  12. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    Great news from Comrade Hughes!

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  13. Redbaiter (8,801 comments) says:

    “If you actually read the blog you will see that he (and the Green Party), reiterate their call for a moratorium on fracking until the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment, Dr Jan Wright, has released her final report on the matter.”

    Yes but Hughes has absolutely no evidence to support his claim that fracking petroleum wells is harmful.

    He is running around the country showing completely misleading films on the Queensland coal seam gas industry.

    If he had any real evidence he wouldn’t need to engage in such dishonest deceit and propaganda.

    Hughes just wants to stop the production and use of oil altogether and he needs to start being honest about this intent.

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  14. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    This is good news. Japan has recently decided to abandon it’s emissions targets, and one of the new focus areas is now to enable stable low-cost energy supply. This is good policy. Abundant energy is what has brought us out of the stone age. Which is, of course, why the Greens hate it so much.

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  15. Paulus (2,626 comments) says:

    Fracking in Taranaki has been going on for 28 years so far, with no side effects.
    Don’t give me that crap about creating Earthquakes.
    New Zealand is created on New Fold Volcanic mountains some 260,000 million years ago, from which anybody can learn is the basis for, amongst may other minerals, Coal, Oil and Gas in the structures.

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  16. Naturesong (23 comments) says:

    @Redbaiter

    “Yes but Hughes has absolutely no evidence to support his claim that fracking petroleum wells is harmful.”

    As you well know, absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence, hence waiting for the report.

    I’ve not seen the films on the Queensland coal seam gas industry, so couldn’t comment on their veracity.
    Is your main issue with Gareth that you don’t like the way he politics?

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  17. Naturesong (23 comments) says:

    This seems reasonable: http://www.pce.parliament.nz/media/media-releases/pce-to-investigate-fracking/

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  18. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Naturesong,it seems as reasonable now as it did in March 2012. Next you should go and look at the report from the enquiry, released in November 2012.

    If you can’t be arsed, it basically said do it properly and it’s all good. Frack on!

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  19. Redbaiter (8,801 comments) says:

    “As you well know, absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence, hence waiting for the report.”

    So you are ready to put hundreds of workers out of work and their families out of income based on completely unsubstantiated allegations.

    Apparently the incredible cruelty and selfishness of your position completely escapes you.

    Of course I have no time for Hughes. He’s the epitome of the watermelon. Green on the outside and red in the center. Not only that he is in my humble opinion, deceitful and a propagandist. I’ve been to his cute little lectures and I know what worthless emotive factless crap he is pushing.

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  20. hj (6,991 comments) says:

    What ever happend to: “when recourses become scarce [or cause the climate to change in a damaging way] the price goes up and alternatives are found. Where’s the sexy alternative? Anything else you want to be wrong about?

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  21. Naturesong (23 comments) says:

    @RightNow: The report.
    Cheers, missed that. I’ll have a read through
    http://www.pce.parliament.nz/publications/all-publications/evaluating-the-environmental-impacts-of-fracking-in-new-zealand-an-interim-report/

    @Redbaiter
    Since when did doing due diligence equal “So you are ready to put hundreds of workers out of work and their families out of income based on completely unsubstantiated allegations.”
    Its more than a stretch, it’s giant leap.
    Is this the level discourse I should expect from you all the time? I’m pretty sure you are smarter than this.

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  22. Viking2 (11,467 comments) says:

    Here’s some more great news from the Greens.

    Greens will cut motorways, build houses

    Monday, 28, Jan, 2013 3:39PM

    The Greens have released more details of where they’d find the money for the party’s affordable housing policy.

    The party launched its rent-to-buy initiative last week – at the time it said the policy would be paid for out of the annual $800 million to $900 million new spending allocation in the Budget

    But party co-leader Russel Norman now says they’d use money currently being borrowed to pay for roads..

    He says cutting the road spend would create quite a lot of fiscal space.

    “If we are to look at the current Government and where it’s currently up to, they’re having to borrow heavily for their motorway projects.

    “We wouldn’t be borrowing for those motorway projects.”

    http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/news/news-story.cfm?content_id=848252

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  23. Griff (7,683 comments) says:

    Naturesong
    Nope he aint
    Click on his name and read his blog
    You will learn that the world has only two political movements
    The Teabaggers the only true way forward for man kind lead by a lifelike representation of reds favorite blow up doll.
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagger
    All the rest of us are liberal progressive Marxist scum

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  24. Steve (North Shore) (4,560 comments) says:

    Fuck the Greens.

    Drill baby Drill, and frack

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