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The Blues were exciting last night, lots of committment with a captain who was passionate – the Crusaders look like they have had any sort of spontaneity breed out of them , when they tried something other than passing it back and forth across the field waiting for the opposition to make an error they buggered it up ,also they didn’t have their normal number 7 being offside at the breakdown all night.
Some bedside reading for all you economists, anti business people and Bill English.
The book also reveals the extent to which Gallagher Group has benefited from its investment in research and development, and how the generous government export incentive policies of the 1970s boosted the company’s growth.
Tax deductions given to firms that increased exports in that decade effectively reduced the firm’s tax rate to zero. The firm also made use of a government R&D grant provided to companies that hired university science graduates.
Though the grant existed for only three years, it lasted long enough for Gallagher to appreciate the value that could be gained from R&D and a “culture of research-informed innovation” was established within the company, writes Goldsmith.
Gallagher Group, founded in 1938 by Gallagher’s father Bill snr, is today one of the country’s most successful and geographically diverse exporters with products sold in more than 130 countries. The company has revenues of close to $200 million and employs roughly 1000 staff around the world.
As Mike Moore writes in the foreword: “If New Zealand had another 100 Bill Gallaghers we would be the richest, most decent, best-natured nation on earth.”
As oppossed to the poor and broken arsed sad country we have. and before you all egt excited about that truth just refelct a bit about where we are and how tough most Kiwi’s are having and have had their exsistence for the last 5 years. And don’t blame someone elese like the GFC.
My concern for what its worth is that NZ is continuing to have disasters. Pike, earthqualkes, drought kwiwfruit, etc etc and what will be next. We no longer ahve any resilience in our economy because we try to be leader of the world rather than leaders in NZ. That’s what our politicians do.
Question. What oif this drought last another year or like aussie another 3 years??
What is going to happen to NZ in that senario, which could likely happen.
OR for that matter if we had another biggy earthquake say in Wellington.
Food for thinking for the weekend.
Support our companies more and more and more.
We did it for the Hobits and LOR. Why not the rest of us?? Bill.
Gallaghers set that apart so a lesson to be learned.
Chris Trotter has blasted a number of Labour MPs as a pack of attack dogs, including Clare Curran who he called Darien Fenton’s ‘grim lieutenant’.
Curran responded to this on Channel 9 last night:
Well, I’ve known Chris Trotter for quite a long time, and I think he’s a great writer, ah, I think he might be, um, better at writing fiction these days, ah, and, but I think he’s also a bit like a dog with a bone, and he tends to live in the past a bit in his writing, and, ah he also has hasn’t been a member of the Labour Party for a very long time, but he likes to give us the benefit of his very strong views, so I guess that’s what I’ve got to say I mean, um, you know I that’s not the way I um saw it, and ah you know we had a great conference, and we’ve we’re a united party moving forward.
Pete that’s week old news and who the fuck cares if the slags are fighting. Its normal behavoir for them.
Let the go to it and they will self destruct.
Why don’t you talk about the things we need to do like what I have said above or is that just too complicated.
Why can’t we talk about what we need to get done urgently if we want to up or even hold onto our standard of living.
Time we set a better agenda instead of letting these slags and their mothers little helpers do it.
During the 1970s the media promoted global cooling alarmism with dire threats of a new ice age. Extreme weather events were hyped as signs of the coming apocalypse and man-made pollution was blamed as the cause. Environmental extremists called for everything from outlawing the internal combustion engine to communist style population controls. This media hype was found in newspapers, magazines, books and on television:
barry, weather men have a history of making false and fantastic predictions of doom. Remember when the Ozone Hole was in fashion. ? Notice you don’t hear weather men lying about that any more, to get “funding” ?
New satellite ozone data and other atmospheric studies based on actual measurements confirm that the ozone layer is not a homogeneous, flat and that atmospheric dynamics, not chemistry, is the driving factor that determines the thickness of the ozone layer. The scientific research reported here strips any shred of credibility from the claims of the ozone depletion theorists leaving the Montreal Protocol backed only by the Malthusian ideotogy of its founders.
They discovered that changes in the ozone layer were directly caused by the horizontal and vertical movement of air masses (that is, wind dynamics). A close analysis of the data also demonstrated that chemistry played no role in the thickness of the ozone layer over these stations.
Do you think they should bring back (or have never gotten rid of) Apartheid kowtow?
“But will the left and trendy urban elites ever admit that?” I don’t think anyone would argue South Africa is a less dangerous place now than it was 20 or 30 years ago.
I think we’re in the situation we’re in (massively exposed) because of simply unrestrained low quality spending for decades now. Billions on welfare, billions owed by students, by recalcitrant fathers, billions badly invested it just goes on and on and on. Good money sucked up in the courts, blown on fripperies like Maori TV, commissions for whatever you like.
Vast amounts on education where one in five fail!
Very telling comment the other day by H Clark at the U.N.
Q: ‘What are kiwis succeeding in overseas?’
A: ‘Look for Kiwis in the performing arts, music etc’.
Well fuckin good one Helen, that’s part of your legacy, and Tomorrow’s Schools. Kids that are good at kapa haka.
I don’t think our slide will stop in the foreseeable future because our culture is now one of entitlement and or expectation. We’re just going to muddle along until something comes along and knocks us sideways – could be a big shake in the capital, could be anything.
Apartheid was a blight on the planet, it had to go. What’s in place now is still coming to grips with the change or do you guys think it’s suppose to change in one day? Short life expectants get a bit apprehensive when they know they won’t see any change worth what they want to see in their lifetimes.
Whaleoil posts yet another attack piece on a Christchurch family that can’t find a home. Despite his skills with social media, it’s somehow escaped his attention that:
a) They can’t find a place not because they have no money but because they have a poor credit rating and other factors and landlords keep turning them down as tenants. That they waste their money is one of the reasons for a poor credit history, one would have thought thus his reportage here only reinforces what the reporter wrote!
b) The reporter who reported on their plight is the *same* reporter that wrote the day before an article that there was no housing crisis in Christchurch. Whaleoil even blogged about her article at the time but did not notice the byline. This particular article was looking at the people in need of social housing as opposed to the general population.
c) Whaleoil even continues his idiocy by claiming that the Press editor has a change of heart on the issue and has thrown the reporter under the bus. The reporter that day had another article in the series mentioning the problem that first home buyers have (namely inflated expectations).
d) I see the reporter today mentions that she was attacked for being a national party plant. She must have been close to Peter Goodfellow then.
I worry that Whaleoil is taking a turn for the worse. There always was a nastiness in what he wrote (part of his charm, I’d admit) but over the past year, it’s gotten unpalatable.
kowtow (3,780) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:44 am
South Africa ,under new management is a far more brutal and dangerous place than it ever was under the evil white man.
But will the left and trendy urban elites ever admit that?
Even Minto is appalled by the place now.
It is the rape, murder, robbery capital of the world. The genocide of the white farmers was totally ignored in our media, as was the general decline under the rule of convicted terrorist Mandela. It is a disgusting shit hole. Same as every other black ruled country. It is well overdue for the world to stop pouring money and aid into Africa. It is a very resource rich continent and if they want the benefits of modern civilisation then they can pay for it, same as every one else. Blacks are owed no duty of care and are victims of nothing more than their own behaviour.
TheContrarian (618) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:48 am
Do you think they should bring back (or have never gotten rid of) Apartheid kowtow?
Let me answer that.
It depends on what you consider most important. Real world outcomes for actual people. Things like personal security, job prospects, health and education. The ability to walk down the road with out being raped or murdered. and so on.
OR
A bunch of liberals feeling good about themselves on the other side of the world.
Only a total scumbag would say blacks are better off now. Those people should be rounded up and sent there to live in the mess they created.
Funny story about Mandelas “rainbow nation”. The refugees from that other success story of black rule, Zimbabwe, were given the same treatment Mandela gave his political opponents before he was imprisoned. They stuck tyres over them, soaked in petrol, and burned them in the street alive and screaming. That is what every anti Apartheid person supports and they are directly responsible for the deaths of thousands. (Of course they are gutless filth and will deny responsibility.)
SA is going to go the way of Zimbabwe. From a bread basket to a basket case.
The book also reveals the extent to which Gallagher Group has benefited from its investment in research and development, and how the generous government export incentive policies of the 1970s boosted the company’s growth.
Tax deductions given to firms that increased exports in that decade effectively reduced the firm’s tax rate to zero. The firm also made use of a government R&D grant provided to companies that hired university science graduates.
Though the grant existed for only three years, it lasted long enough for Gallagher to appreciate the value that could be gained from R&D and a “culture of research-informed innovation” was established within the company, writes Goldsmith.
Thank you V2 for this. As I keep telling people, look at Ireland’s Celtic Tiger model, which saw Ireland become the world’s biggest software exporter in the early noughties. Bigger than the US. Lest people misunderstand, the Celtic Tiger model has nothing to do with what is now happening in Ireland, that was caused by their mishandling of the free credit arising from Germany’s low interest rates being applied to all EU countries. They are two totally separate issues and should never be conflated.
Ireland did two things: (1) they identified two industries in which they wished to prosper and focused their entire educational system on providing people for those industries and (2) they setup tax incentives designed to attract multi-nationals to setup R&D and manufacturing facilities for those industries.
The two industries she chose were software and bioinformatics, which is number crunching for genetic research (i.e. drug companies). The latter industry requires around 7-8 IT specialists for every scientist so they were in fact very complementary choices. We could chose something similar. We rely on heavily on plant and animal genetics and we have a huge science base (rapidly depleting through non-replacement) of people who are specialists in highly eclectic areas of those two fields. So we have a head start on those areas.
Secondly they setup low tax zones in economically depressed areas of the country which encouraged multi-nationals to establish themselves in.
That’s it.
Simple, isn’t it.
Today there are complications. No-one was doing it back then but now, for example, most multi-nationals pay very little tax due to structuring their affairs so they funnel their revenue through offices domiciled in low tax countries. Apple and Google for example have hit the headlines in recent months over this. This is a problem for us, but not an insurmountable one if we applied our minds to it.
Doing this however goes against both the left and the right. In 2001 one of the architects of the Celtic Tiger gave a lecture at Akld Business School where I learned this, he was flying to Wgtn to talk to Hulun the next day. As we know, nothing happened, this is because I suspect to lefties, it’s anaethema to have a low tax zone where hated multinationals would pay less tax than the poor worker victims. And obviously some on the right seem to hallucinate that the market will solve everything so we should be hands off and clearly this model is far from that.
BUT IT WORKED.
And results are the only thing that matter.
That is our answer and guess what, after five years of conservative govt, nothing has happened in the economy, has it. Their philosophy hasn’t worked, has it. Neither did the lefty philosophy because they just pissed away the revenues from the most miraculous growth period in our history on useless millstones like WFF for rich people and interest-free student loans.
So both sides are useless here. We need to try something new, and what’s wrong with looking at the Celtic Tiger? Some may say, the EU access is what made Ireland attractive. Well, for us, here and now, what does China look like to you? Same thing the EU was to Ireland twenty years ago, right? That’s right.
The timing is perfect, our geography is perfect, we need something, anything. Because doing nothing is not working. If it was, we would already have 1,000 Gallaghers. But we don’t do we.
“….Not sure anyone is pouring money into South Africa….”
I just read in the Courier Mail[qld] on Friday that Australian companies have invested $50 bil in Africa. It is exactly like Kea said. Resource rich. The Catholic Church and other denominations are also making huge headway into peoples lives there. Reports are that the religions do more to help Africans than does the UN and NGO’s.
“Not sure anyone is pouring money into South Africa.”
I was not talking about SA. However if white westerners are not pouring money into SA now, they soon will be. You can be sure of that.
Africa is a living monument to the failure of white do-gooders who think inside every black is a white european liberal just waiting to get out. They are wrong.
Most people have no idea of the level of savagery that goes on daily in Africa. The liberal media will not report it or will put in a brief little piece deep inside a news paper, so as to hide the reality of blacks in Africa. I remember reading a little piece like that once. About 70 women and children were rounded up and caught in a net. Instead of shooting them, they saved bullets by hacking them to death. It got about 5 lines in the paper.
Very few “independant” African countries ,if any made a success of their “freedom”.
If anything they are more dependant than ever on the white mans’ largesse. Without aid in one form or the other their ruling elites would ,like their citizens,also be living in mud huts without electricity,like Obama’s granny in Kenya.
Uganda and Ghana are other good examples of breadbaskets turned into basket cases.
What is the first thing locals on the ground generally ask UN staff for, when they arrive in whatever African shit hole they’ve been sent to?
Food? No. Water? No. Shelter? No. Protection from their fellow countrymen? Yes.
SA is fucked but don’t worry, the Chinese will have it fixed shortly!
The exprt focus in Ireland has worked,there is nothing new in thatpolicy. The danger is that that success is based as it was in the 60 s and 70s on being a “branch factory’economy.
2 stars aligned for that policy. EEC membership and new technology.
The Irish govt essentially bribes those corps into setting up shop.When someone else offers a bigger bribe the factories will move say to Slovenia or where ever. Germany has a similar problem and has to bribe it’s own indusrty to stay at home rather than move across the road or river to Poland to take advantage of lower wages.
It’s simply corporate welfare and as such is unsustainable.
Black Africans live in the richest place on earth. Herds of game, plenty of land for farming, vast mineral and oil wealth, it has got it all.
They have had more time to get it right than anyone. They are in the cradle of humanity living in a virtual garden of eden. Yet they have never built anything but the most basic and primitive civilisation.
I do not judge them for that. They were here first and will be here last I suspect. But they can not expect the benefits of civilisation while doing none of the things required to obtain those benefits. I have nothing against black Africans, but do-gooding whites who paint blacks as “victims” make my blood boil.
Are you saying that apartheid is morally acceptable? Do the blacks need a white master race to rule them?
1. Yes
2. No
It depends on what you consider most important. Real world outcomes for actual people. Things like personal security, job prospects, health and education. The ability to walk down the road with out being raped or murdered. and so on.
OR
A bunch of liberals feeling good about themselves on the other side of the world.
African countries were at their best the day before the colonial power left (and mostly they left because of the pressure from do-gooders who wanted the shakle of the white man removed).
Trouble is , the colonial powers are what made africa as good as it was and when they left the africans returned to their old ways of tribalism – which means killing everyone else, and if not then tasking their property.
Are you saying that apartheid is morally acceptable? Do the blacks need a white master race to rule them?
No. They need systems put in place so the civilians can go about their own personal business unhindered. Not socialism, but a professional army, police and justice dept. They are the only places where UN money should be spent.
Schools and hospitals can then be run privately with charitable money first.
But lets just let the blacks speak for themselves and compare it to what self hating whites in NZ are saying …..
Major former ANC leader – “We were better off under Apartheid”
One of the biggest figures in the ANC has broke ranks and declared that blacks were better off under Apartheid. Julius Malema recently split with the ANC. Malema is famous for singing songs about murdering white people at ANC rallies.
Were blacks better off under apartheid?
Jewish World Review
Walter Williams
MORAL crusaders have the habit of heading off to their next crusade without bothering to see whether anything went wrong on their last one. During the ’80s, TransAfrica, NAACP, Black Congressional Caucus, Hollywood glitterati, college students, and other groups held massive protests on college campuses and at the South African Embassy, built shanty towns, and called for disinvestment and sanctions against South Africa for its racist apartheid system.
There’s no longer apartheid and there’s black rule in South Africa, but what’s the story there now? Andrew Kenny writes about it in his article, “Black People Aren’t Animals.” The article appears in the December 15 issue of the British magazine The Spectator, the world’s oldest continuously published English language magazine (est. 1838).
Each South African day sees an average of 59 murders, 145 despoils and 752 serious assaults out of its 42 million population. The new crime is the violation of babies; some AIDS-infected African men believe that Being Intimate with a virgin is a cure. Twelve percent of South Africa’s population is HIV-positive, but President Mbeki says that HIV cannot cause AIDS.
In response to growing violence, South Africa’s minister of safety and security, Steve Tshwete, says: “We can’t police this; there’s nothing more we can do. South Africa’s currency, the rand, has fallen about 70 percent since the African National Congress (ANC) came to power in 1994. Emigration from South Africa (mainly of skilled people) is now at its highest level ever.”
Kenny asks, “Is South Africa doomed to follow the rest of Africa into oblivion?
kowtow you’ve obviously misunderstood something. Ireland did not focus on manufacturing, it focused on knowledge work, that’s why it oriented its education system accordingly. Slovenia therefore can’t do the sort of work Ireland attracted because the multinationals weren’t looking for low wage pairs of hands, but highly educated minds in specific fields.
While knowledge work is also subject to the forces of offshoring, this is why India has been so popular with software projects, it’s not to quite the same extent as manufacturing is, and the more you setup in eclectic esoteric areas of high demand, the less offshoring becomes a viable competitor. This is why I suggest we look at animal and plant genetics, because just like in rugby, we have a heritage in that area that the world would find hard to replicate.
I’m not saying those suggested industries are necessarily the correct ones, greater minds than mine would no doubt be able to think through many different alternatives. My point was, why don’t we just simply turn our minds to it, rather than keep going through life without a plan or direction, as we currently do. And I’m also not saying there won’t be issues and problems, we all know for example that China is the world’s biggest expropriator of IP and it will no doubt continue that trend and that would be an issue for us if we went down this road. But just because it’s a problem doesn’t mean it’s a show stopper and treating it like it would be will simply keep us on the road to nowhere. And is our current road to nowhere a good thing or a bad thing?
Scott Chris, do not try and claim the moral high ground by expressing concern for niggers. You do not care about niggers at all. If you did car about niggers you would want the best outcomes (for niggers) not what makes you “look good”.
We are short lifers aren’t we and male mister fix its. What happened after Rome fell? Africa will go islam as the rest of the white planet want to rape it along with the chinese, you call it modernizing, i call it what it is, resource rape by fooling the black tribal man. That’s what it comes down to, we take what is theirs by right of age and throw them God and a cheap cell phone.
The whole continent is an aged civilization and that’s where we are headed if we continue to be a country in it’s present form for the next few thousand years. Civilizations age, we didn’t bring it to them.
They don’t need ruling just like we don’t, it’s only agendists like Kea who think they need it on the pretense of managing their resources for them? Aye Kea? That’s it isn’t it? People don’t invest without wanting a return whether it’s emotional or physical.
What’s happening in Africa is cultural as well as change, What makes you people think it was going to be painless.
I’m going to tell you what an apatheid escaper once told me “9 million wanting to be your servant, what do you think?” Those that stay get what they get.
Hopefully this is not too far off topic but somebody might be able to help.
Fonterra have announced a bonus issue.
But they never announced any tax implications in any such bonus issue.
Does any contributor to this site know anything about it?
Like, is it fully imputed? Is the bonus issue taxable? Do sharemilkers get anything from it? What about lower order sharemilkers?
As usual; so many questions; so few answers.
Besides few black slaves ever freed themselves. White British Christians did.Enforced by the Royal Navy.
The slaves who liberated themselves made a great success of Haiti,another UN basket case.
Oh yes that darling of the anti Christian rationalists,the man said to have ended feudalism in Europe ,Napoleon,reintroduced slavery.Great moderniser indeed.
Go the Blues. The team to watch so I am told. … If anyone is ever interested !!. Dan Carter apart from a few easy goal kicks played like an old woman last night so he should head off to France now before he injures himself …, again.
I shall go back to watching paint dry. More interesting.
Wilbur Smith has always said that African countries were better off under the British – and he would have a reasonable understanding of that time in Africa. Some people here don’t realise that SA was really under the Boers – former dutch settlers. They operated in SA far differantly than the British did elsewhere.
Ian Smith being kicked out of Rhodesia is a good case study of a country that was good under British rule, then the 60′s ‘elites’ in Britian and elswhere sided with rebels for ‘independance’ – Mugabe has been in charge ever since – and now look at the shit hole.
Rhodesia used to be a major exporter of agriculture – an industry that created huge employment there in the 50′s 60′s and early 70′s – now they can hardly feed themselves.
….”Are you saying that apartheid is morally acceptable? Do the blacks need a white master race to rule them?”…..
No -But they need honest leaders who have the best interest of the country upper most.
Unfortunately there are very few Africans who fit this category. I think there is one female leader in west Africa who had made her country work. the rest terrorize their people, raid the national treasury and couldnt give a rats arse about their fellow countrymen, women and children.
Now – historically the practice of Apartheid worked better than South Africa works today. Doesnt mean to say it was right – but one could well argue that it was more ‘right’ than what theyve got today. And I think there are many people in Zimbabwe and those similar countries who would welcome the type of country thet aparthieid would give them – better public order than theyve got now, a decent economy, and health and education system that auint perfect but better than theyve got now.
Its all very high and mighty to say thinks like ‘Apartheid is bad’ – but what thyve got now is a lot worse. As Chruchill said democracy is the worst form of governmet except for all the others., One might say Apartheid is the worst form of governmet for south africa except for the one they are using now.
it’s only agendists like Kea who think they need it on the pretense of managing their resources for them? Aye Kea? That’s it isn’t it?
Not my position at all.
My position is for whites to get out of Africa, along with all aid and hand outs, and leave them to it. As I already said, if they want civilisation they can pay for it.
kowtow. African Slavery was going on before whites ever went near the place. It still goes on today. The novel idea that slavery is “wrong” was popularised by Europeans, NOT Africans. They clearly have no issue with it, but will claim otherwise situationally out of self interest. Just like the lie they believe in equality.
“It depends on what you consider most important. Real world outcomes for actual people. Things like personal security, job prospects, health and education. The ability to walk down the road with out being raped or murdered. and so on.”
Under apartheid the only people who had “personal security, job prospects, health and education” were the whites. Or ‘actual people’ as you put it. You racist prick.
Having been to South Africa three times now I can tell your view would be fairly unwelcome there, despite the troubles they face.
I haven’t suggested that aparteid or white rule is better.
I’m suggesting that with a UN funded army[border control] police[civilian law and order] justice[order of government] that the civilians have a better chance of forming a democratic country that suits their needs.
UN funding should be paid on a basis for the wages of police, army and judges – a good salary to keep out corruption. They could even pay it weekly into bank accounts from Brussles. To ‘fund’ the govt in ‘one large amount’ would simply see the country return to ‘despot status’ with a military dictatorship. Clearly it would be on a country to country basis at the most oportune time. NZ Police and other commonwealth Police services ‘train’ police from other countries – there are even Indonesian army officers who receive training at Duntroon Millitary College in Aust.
I agree with you on the no hand outs and pulling the whites out, let the ones interested in helping and teaching do their jobs but what gets me is what did people expect would happen in S.A and Zimbabwe? No change is without a long period of down scaling.
Under apartheid the only people who had “personal security, job prospects, health and education” were the whites. Or ‘actual people’ as you put it. You racist prick.
Explain why millions of blacks moved to SA, under apartheid, to work ?
Calling me “racist” has no effect or meaning. Being “racist” is a natural human state. It is driven by the exact same thing, as loving your kids, sexual attraction, survival instinct, love and so on. Its about survival of your genes. Idiot. It is not an excuse to mistreat others, however.
Just the same, your the “racist prick” because you hold niggers to a different standard than others. If the “majority” of SA was white, we would not be having this conversation. You be crying out about how awful the white savages are and bemoaning the state of the place. You would be wailing for the UN to “do something” to save the black minority.
Rhodesia was far differant than SA. They didn’t have apartied. Blacks were mostly housed and feed- albeit ‘their’ style – so ‘independance’ seemed to them the next step up.The government were an easy target for British elites to take down. The rebels came asking for independance and the elites agreed. England at the time was in it’s own class war and the uni ptotesters saw it as a chance to dispose of a British ‘ruling class’.
Is this the same UN who’s people have been raping kids wholesale in Africa ? (guess where the rapists came from? They forgot to mention that…)
Humanitarian aid workers and United Nation peacekeepers are sexually abusing small children in several war-ravaged and food-poor countries, a leading European charity has said.
Children like this 15-year-old girl have suffered abuse at the hands of some UN soldiers and aid workers.
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Children as young as 6 have been forced to have sex with aid workers and peacekeepers in return for food and money, Save the Children UK said in a report released Tuesday.
‘Elizabeth’ was raped by 10 UN peacekeepers in Ivory Coast
Children as young as six are being sexually abused by peacekeepers and aid workers, says a leading UK charity.
Children in post-conflict areas are being abused by the very people drafted into such zones to help look after them, says Save the Children.
After research in Ivory Coast, southern Sudan and Haiti, the charity proposed an international watchdog be set up.
A 13-year-old girl, “Elizabeth” described to the BBC how 10 UN peacekeepers gang-raped her in a field near her Ivory Coast home.
‘Elizabeth’ tells the BBC about her abuse
“They grabbed me and threw me to the ground and they forced themselves on me… I tried to escape but there were 10 of them and I could do nothing,” she said.
“I was terrified. Then they just left me there bleeding.
And that is why you don’t really want a UN ‘ground force’ of civillans at the coal face. It is not only that the bad ones get in there but that the blacks become dependant on their services over time. I’m not saying they shouldn’t have any UN staff in there, but it is all really about ‘organising’ the blacks so that they can then help themselves.They are human and willing. Stable authority is the only thing that can really create the ‘opportunity’ for them to do so.
Blacks like everyone else have to take ‘ownership’ of their societies. No one else can given the immediate history of the place.
Does anybody know of a time when the Greens have said anything good about National? Would we really want a party in power or coalition which is so one eyed?
most Black South Africans are materially worse off now than they were under Apartheid.
Hundreds of thousands of jobs have vanished; costs for the basics: electricity, water, food and rents have skyrocketed. Ironically, no longer the pariah of the world, South Africa’s white minority is even better off now than it was under Apartheid (remember the ‘Rainbow Nation’?). The only Blacks to have gained have been a tiny minority, many from the ranks of the (former) liberation movement and the trade unions as well as the South African Communist Party (SACP).
- See more at: http://www.globalresearch.ca/economic-and-social-crisis-in-post-apartheid-south-africa/32505#sthash.b59QEUTx.dpuf
TheContrarian, supports this. He thinks this is best.
“Farm murders getting more sadistic
“The public must know how cruelly these people are being murdered. We were at scenes where people’s skins were peeled off their bodies; where children are drowned in boiling water. It’s horrific.” – Crime Scene Cleanup”
I’m going to tell you what an apatheid escaper once told me “9 million wanting to be your servant, what do you think?” Those that stay get what they get.
Ok.
How does this sound ?: Reclaim England and Northern Europe for the native Europeans. “Those that stay get what they get”
TheContrarian (620) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:30 am
“TheContrarian, supports this. He thinks this is best.”
I support no such thing and as I have family on farms in South Africa I find your comment quite repugnant.
I don’t give a shit what you feel. You do support it. It is thanks to people like you that SA is in the state it is today. You are directly responsible.
Black and whites are all far worse off. I have provided links to black representatives who agree with me. You know dam well SA is in decline, but try and deny it to make yourself look like your not a “racist”. You do not care about blacks. You care more about ideology than practical outcomes. Your family lives in the mess you lot created. You should be ashamed.
It’s not easy being green these days, especially if you’re a die-hard doomsayer of the global warming persuasion. Arctic ice has made a comeback, advancing so rapidly that the previous decade saw less ice at this time of the year than exists today. And previously balmy Arctic temperatures just nose-dived, according to the Danish Meteorological Institute, which has tracked Arctic temperatures since 1958.
Alarmists shudder when looking south, too, at the stats from Antarctica. There the sea ice extent started growing early this year, and the ice cover remains stubbornly above average. All told, the global sea ice — including both polar caps — now exceeds the average recorded since 1979, when satellites began their measurements.
Disasters are another disaster for the doomsayers, as documented in an October article by University of Colorado-Boulder Prof. Robert Pielke Jr., one of the world’s foremost experts in disasters and climate change. “Flooding has not increased over the past century, nor have landfalling hurricanes,” he reported. “Remarkably, the U.S. is currently experiencing the longest-ever recorded period with no strikes of a Category 3 or stronger hurricane.”
Pielke went on to note that the U.S. has seen a decline in drought over the past century, and that “Over the past six decades, tornado damage has declined after accounting for development that has put more property into harm’s way.” Similar conclusions apply to typhoons in China, bushfires in Australia, and windstorms in Europe. High-profile weather events have always and will always be with us; they just haven’t been as fateful of late. Moreover, the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change earlier last year agreed that long-term climate change can’t be blamed for damage from extreme events.
The Holy Grail of proof to most doomsayers, of course, is the temperature, which global warming models insisted would rise in lock-step with increases in carbon dioxide. When the temperatures started to plateau in the late 1990s, doomsayers scoffed at the skeptics who noted that the models failed, taking comfort from the global warming leadership who explained every which way that the skeptics were torturing the statistics to falsely show warming had stopped. Now the leadership itself — the U.K.’s Met Office, NASA’s Jim Hansen, and the IPCC’s Rajendra Pachauri — all admit to temperatures having reached a standstill for the better part of two decades.
The lowly global warming believer is left with little but the promises from their leaders that, sooner or later, those temperatures will rise again.
DID YOU KNOW: There Was An ARMED REBELLION In Athens Tennessee In 1946? Here is the story [VIDEO]
Veterans grew suspicious of a vote count and challenged the authorities with armed force. Another reason arms are being taken off Americans. UK and Oz have already done it. The Brits protested too late.
The Battle of Athens was an armed rebellion led by WWII veterans and citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the tyrannical local government in August 1946.
Another piece of common sense dedicated to Pete George and Griff of course!
The anti-fossil fuel crowd is constantly carping about our carbon footprint, but use of the word ‘carbon’ distorts the issue. It is not carbon (black soot) that is being released today. In theUSwe have largely solved that problem; even with coal-burning electricity-generating plants, the smoke is scrubbed. What they are really opposed to is carbon dioxide — a harmless gas, breathed out by every living animal and absorbed by every living plant. Carbon dioxide makes up only 0.03 percent of the earth’s atmosphere – not 3 percent, not 3 tenths of one percent, but 3 hundredths of one percent.
However, if you think that an increase in the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is a problem then there is a simple solution that won’t send us back to the preindustrial era or jack up the cost of power – plant trees. All plants, but especially trees, absorb carbon dioxide. Trees are decorative. Let’s cover our cities in green — trees on every street and in every parking lot, window boxes filled with plants, roof top gardens.
Harriet, CARBON simply means *organic* in that context.
All known life is carbon based. The warmists don’t want you to know that. They want you to imagine a black grimy sooty sort of carbon. Like every thing else they say, its a lie or at least misleading.
kowtow, our ideas about equality, human rights and slavery are not held by Africans. They are recently formed white eurocentric views. Most of the world does not think that way.
Of course they will claim they believe in equality and human rights, but only FOR THEM. Most certainly not for their fellow blacks
TheContrarian, still waiting for you to explain why millions of blacks wanted to immigrate to apartheid SA ?
White settlers built SA through hard work. Blacks migrated there in the millions for a higher standard of living, prospects for the future and personal safety (we take that for granted, but it is a big issue in Africa). They wanted a piece of the action.
The blacks who moved there fought among themselves, divided along tribal or religious grounds. The whites tried to stop them murdering and torturing each other. White liberals like TheContrarian would show images of the SA security forces clashing with blacks and tell you lies that they were fighting for freedom and against apartheid. They were really fighting for the right to kill, torture, rape and rob other blacks from a different tribe.
White liberals taught the blacks that they were “victims” and infected them with entitlitis. Eventually these blacks from all over Africa thought THEY should have the fruits of the whites hard work and endurance. This nation carved out of nothing should be thrown to waiting pack of blacks to be divided up and destroyed. The plan worked.
Yes – National did campaign for asset sales – albeit in a a not very ‘open and transparent’ way?
You will note that their 2011 pre-election policy did NOT say – “National supports asset sales”, or “National supports the Mixed Ownership Model for key state assets”.
National is increasing savings and creating jobs built on exports and productive investment.
We’re getting on top of debt, and returning to surplus sooner.
We will extend the successful mixed-ownership model – where the Government owns most of a
company, but offers a minority stake to investors – to four state-owned energy companies, and reduce the government’s stake in Air New Zealand. This will give Kiwis a chance to invest in large New Zealand companies.”
The 2011 election results?
National got 59 out of 121 MPs.
The final vote on the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership Model) Amendment Act 2012, was 61 – 60
A party vote was called for on the question, That the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership Model) Amendment Bill be now read a third time.
Ayes 61
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.
Noes 60
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Māori Party 3; Mana 1.
_____________________________________________________________________________
HOWEVER:
” UF (United Future) did not specifically campaign for the ‘mixed ownership model for the electricity companies and Air New Zealand’ because it was not UF (United Future)policy”
[ Pete George (16,292) Says: February 15th, 2013 at 10:28 pm]
In my considered opinion – the voting public of Ohariu were thus effectively misled by United Future and Peter Dunne on the issue of support for the ‘Mixed Ownership Model’ for State-Owned electricity assets and Air New Zealand.
In my considered opinion, United Future and Peter Dunne SOLD OUT the voting public of Ohariu by voting in support of the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership) Amendment Act 2012.
Had Peter Dunne kept faith with the voting public of Ohariu – the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership Model) Amendment Bill should have BEEN DEFEATED 60 – 61.
I thus believe that I am absolutely correct in my statement that THERE IS NO MANDATE FOR ASSET SALES – given that this minority National Government (which DID campaign on asset sales) has only 59 out of 121 MPs.
Lib Dems win key by-election as UKIP pushes Tories into 3rd place
Published on Mar 1, 2013
The UK Independence party has beaten the governing Conservatives into third place, in a key by-election. The Liberal Democrats held the seat, but the vote highlights the ever-growing support for those calling for Britain to exit the EU…
Apparently it is complicated for people like you Penny, but this doesn’t surprise me. Your post is complete bullshit. The language they invented for the asset sales was used extensively during the campaign and anyone who didn’t understand what it meant is a drop-dead mental.
If you have to post on something, and we don’t mind if you don’t, from all accounts of the feedback you get whenever you do, at least post on a real point, as opposed to something like this, which is invented entirely from your own feeble mind and that of the left, who apparently, don’t like it when they lose. After all it was a very senior lefty who said: “we won, you lost, eat that” wasn’t it. But yet this doesn’t seem to apply to you, when it happens. Why is that?
(BTW that’s a rhetorical question Penny, I don’t you to answer that, I already know.)
Penny Bright – I thus believe that I am absolutely correct in my statement that THERE IS NO MANDATE FOR ASSET SALES – given that this minority National Government (which DID campaign on asset sales) has only 59 out of 121 MPs.
Do the maths folks! It ISN’T complicated?
NO MAJORITY – NO MANDATE.
Penny, you should bring this to the attention of the Governor General – perhaps with a Police Officer and a Member of the Serious Fraud Office in attendance …
Oh! – I see that in fact you have emailed Jerry about this – Monday June 25, 2012 at 5:12pm – he should have answered by now
Pray tell us what his reply was …
In my considered opinion – the voting public of Ohariu were thus effectively misled by United Future and Peter Dunne on the issue of support for the ‘Mixed Ownership Model’ for State-Owned electricity assets and Air New Zealand.
cha posts a link to 2 Froggie women from French Canada ,both university academics ,one in psychoeducation,whatever that is
and they are complaining that Mother Theresa ,not her real name,shock horror had , among many other faults cited “overly dogmatic views regarding in particular abortion,contraception and divorce”
Well knock me down the woman was a Roman Catholic nun for fucks sake.
Is it any wonder that modern academics are held in such piss poor regard,coming up with that fucking rubbish?
And how much Anglo Canadian taxpayers’ money is going into this cutting edge stuff.
Not only that, he is a pathetic intellectual coward unable to write and form his own arguments, and who in his political incoherence, often suggests links which are in many cases completely unsupportive of his frequently Marxist POV.
Pauleastbay (3,344) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 1:15 pmhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9903683/Lecturer-fined-28000-after-scratching-graffiti-into-cars.html
After 3/4′s of a bottle of gin, its called pissed not a disassociative state, the antibotics will have had very little to do with it.
Mr Graham, who had no recollection of the events, had previously stated that he did not agree with people driving large 4x4s, otherwise known as Chelsea tractors, in cities.
Words he carved into the paintwork included “arbitrary”, “wrong”, “very silly” and “twat”.
So what happened to this lefty ? He had to pay some reparation, but no penalty. (suspended sentence) Sickening .
I read the other day apparently our brains process around 400 billion bits of information a second, but we’re only consciously aware of about 2,000 bits/s.
“….You don’t appreciate a lot of stuff in school until you get older. Little things like being spanked every day by a middle aged woman: Stuff you pay good money for in later life….”
Yes Catholic cha,when it suits you you claim to be catholic,but here we have your view on the “whole stinking edifice.”
cha (2,052) Says:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:06 am
This kicker, who has been baptised, received communion and been confirmed, was for many years ambivalent about the church and its catechisms but the delirium of an aged dementia sufferer changed that.
This kicker now lives in hope that the exposing of the extent of the boy fucking peccadillo’s of it’s clergy, the efforts of the elite enablers to excuse their behaviour and the moral bankruptcy of the lay apologists who try to minimise the crimes will cause the collapse of the whole stinking edifice.
edit: Don the Kiwi apologist, go fuck yourself.
Hot debate. What do you think? 4 17
The Act of 1871: The “United States” Is a Corporation – There are Two Constitutions
Since the Act of 1871 which established the District of Columbia, we have been living under the UNITED STATES CORPORATION which is owned by certain international bankers and aristocracy of Europe and Britain.
In 1871 the Congress changed the name of the original Constitution by changing ONE WORD — and that was very significant as you will read.
Some people do not understand that ONE WORD or TWO WORDS difference in any “legal” document DO make the critical difference. But, Congress has known, and does know, this.
1871, February 21: Congress Passes an Act to Provide a Government for the District of Columbia, also known as the Act of 1871.
With no constitutional authority to do so, Congress creates a separate form of government for the District of Columbia, a ten mile square parcel of land (see, Acts of the Forty-first Congress,” Section 34, Session III, chapters 61 and 62).
The act — passed when the country was weakened and financially depleted in the aftermath of the Civil War — was a strategic move by foreign interests (international bankers) who were intent upon gaining a stranglehold on the coffers and neck of America.
Indeed, that is my view of the church kowtow, and if Dante’s hell were to exist the sexual offenders would be the first ones to be truly punished, condemned to the second circle as carnal malefactors while the heart of the whole stinking edifice, the enablers and apologists, are to be condemned to the eighth circle, Malebolge, as fraudulent advisers and evil counsellors.
I didn’t realize that when Roosevelt was president of the states there was a group that was dead set on proving he was jewish and that he was set up to be a dictator, his presidency came about during hard financial times and so has Obama’s, who has a group that are dead set on proving he’s a muslim or is it something else.
He is hated in the Muslim world, more so than Bush. He has attacked Muslim countries all over the Middle East and Africa. He escalated the war in Afghanistan and only withdrew from Iraq because of the withdrawal plans made by Bush. He intends to invade most of the remaining countries in Africa to murder more Muslims.
I think he must have been molested by an iman while in Indonesia or something.
You can see the pattern here? Roosevelt, alleged to be a jew, Obama alleged not to be an American, both during harsh financial times with future outlook to be bleak. Must be a human thing to want to blame someone in power and the guy at the top get’s it.
The Yanks don’t play ball with whoever they put in power, it’s in their blood to rail against their governments, it doesn’t matter who or what the person/persons are.
‘Pauleastbay (3,344) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:23 am
The Blues were exciting last night, lots of committment with a captain who was passionate – the Crusaders look like they have had any sort of spontaneity breed out of them , when they tried something other than passing it back and forth across the field waiting for the opposition to make an error they buggered it up ,also they didn’t have their normal number 7 being offside at the breakdown all night.’
Williams pulled out some prime tackles, including one on Dagg when he was free-running, the sort of tackles that are made by instinct and can turn a game. Noakes was a surprise and there was good comment on his game by Gregor Paul in the Herald. Yesterday as well, where the writer pointed out that the Blues teams of the recent past have pointed out ‘mistakes’ where as the current bunch are determined to fix them. The coaches are showing some deft touches, included in those is having Ranger highly motivated and a leader, and putting Mc Cartney in a single role. Suddenly the losses of Nonu, Anscombe and the tight head pale, maybe the tide has turned.
“The Yanks don’t play ball with whoever they put in power, it’s in their blood to rail against their governments, it doesn’t matter who or what the person/persons are.”
Bit like reading the comments on Stuff about JK you mean Azeraph?
Muslims might hate Obama for blowing them up but they also understand he went to a madrassa ,had a Muslim father and could have been one himself. To Muslims leaving is punishable by death.
Obama though is on a massive outreach to them.Ezra Levant on The Post American President.
I didn’t watch the Oscars, it’s a waste of time, but I wonder if he made a joke about scientology as well. As in, if you ever diss scientology. don’t expect to ever find work in Hollyweird again.
BTW, you’d think the easiest way for the ADL to dispel the “myth” about Jews in Hollyweird would be to list all the hundreds and hundreds of studios that aren’t run by Jews. I wonder why they don’t do that?
Oh double dear! Appawently, he was sexist and wacist as well. Oh the humanity.
JK bows to the Americans too much for my liking, his ancestry don’t mean shit to me or probably to anyone else here in nz, somethings i like but he’s got slap the IRD for using the census as a platform for information gathering, they have to be slapped hard, too many indians working there as it is in their make up to do what they are ordered to do like they did with ACC.
Making people pay tax on using a company laptop/ipad/phone and not the company speaks volumes, That’s right! A worker using company tech gets charged, not the company. I understand why but then business has been forced to blow on continually upgrading their gear making the workers pay is something different.
There is so much cheap american realty at the moment that it is sad what you can get for 300,000k over there, and that’s in our dollars. Maybe if we get the Ozzies to make a deal with every boat they catch that they and us will escort them all the way to the Calif coast instead of there and eventually here. He he.
One of the features of China’s foreign ventures, it seems, is that they take no account of the political probity of the countries they are dealing with. Rogue states are not only acceptable but welcome. Bargains are easier to strike with pariahs.
…the astute geopolitical analyst will not ignore the fact the West has done and still does this, as well. For example, dealing with Saddam, dealing with the Shah of Iran, with Pinochet, with all sorts of ruthless bastards. So don’t get too carried away with the self-righteous angle if you’re interested enough to go and read China’s Silent Army by Juan Pablo Cardenal and Heriberto Araujo, will you.
Exactly Reid. Their house construction system is far superior than what we have here. When the big ones hit us, a lot of housing is just going to flop over. Get rid of your chimney’s, i’ve done a few removals for clients and the last was the geologist that setup our geology dept at auckland uni, surprisingly he told me all about our subduction zone of the coast of Wellywood.
I’m just exercising my right to be racist like everyone else here, Generally, you hire one in a top position and they bring in the rest for you. It’s racism but then i have them in the family and they tell me all about how the backdoor is held open by the one before.
This board isn’t racist? i must’ve woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
He was cool for an 80 year old, do the math, we had no geologists back in the early sixties with his qualifications, everything we know today with nz started from him and i can’t even remember his name but he did say one thing, “Your land ain’t worth shit after what’s coming gets through with it”
Retired US basketballer Dennis Rodman has spent four days in North Korea where he met with reclusive leader Kim Jong-un. Rodman described him as “an awesome kid
FEDERAL Labor faces electoral annihilation, losing seats previously considered ultra-safe, unless the party switches back to Kevin Rudd, a new poll has found.
It raises the prospect of double-digit swings ousting Sydney MPs on buffers of up to 12 per cent – including two government ministers.
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“…..A child’s relationship to both mother and father is inherent to marriage. Children conceived by other means may find themselves with people in parental roles who are in a same-sex relationship, but such relationships are not the origin of the child. It is possible for children to be nurtured in such a household, but however good that nurturing, it will not provide the biological link and security of identity and relationship that marriage naturally demands and confirms…..”
Did you see those words……….security of identity!
Those poor poor little children……no ‘equality’ for them…..no ‘security of identity’ for them…but ‘identity’ for other children! Tsk Tsk!
“….In other words, a mistaken marriage policy would distort people’s understanding of the kind of relationship that spouses are to form and sustain. And that is likely to erode people’s adherence to marital norms of permanence and exclusivity that are essential to the common good because children need them.
The State records marriage to ensure it is not taken lightly. State involvement tests a couple’s mutual consent to each other and to the purposes of their marriage. But this State involvement can only make sense if one of the purposes inherent in marriage is children.
Through the State, society discourages marrying people from failing their obligations to each other, and hence to their children. Likewise, the State records the births of children, the deaths of their natural parents, and marital dissolution, all in the best interests of children.
Similarly, the State now tracks the complexities of assisted reproductive technology – the use of donors and surrogates – again for the sake of children. (However, we think these technological practices fragment parenting. When a child gains a committee of parents, her origin and identity lose definition. She is put at risk by practices that dissipate the security of relationship to her natural mother and father.)…..”
Did you see that?……………”…But this State involvement can only make sense if one of the purposes inherent in marriage is children…..’
What the fuck is John Key creating for the next generation? The State having less concern for the welfare of children that it has had in the past? Tsk Tsk.
This BTW is taken from an arguement against Gay Marriage and was presented to the Australian Federal Government. Gay Marriage has been turned down twice in the Australian Parliment and will fail to be made into law.
“…..A child’s relationship to both mother and father is inherent to marriage. Children conceived by other means may find themselves with people in parental roles who are in a same-sex relationship, but such relationships are not the origin of the child. It is possible for children to be nurtured in such a household, but however good that nurturing, it will not provide the biological link and security of identity and relationship that marriage naturally demands and confirms…..”
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Well what ya got to say about the three kids I watched today whose Dad was a patched Mongrel mob yob and the mother inplicit in that as well. The kids look like they are dragged up.
So much for that relationship and the kids future. P.S. knifing at that place last week after a party around the road and an attempted sexual assult inthe next door school grounds. Nice neighbours. all living at your’s and my expense in a HNZ house.
What matters is love and care. The rest is semantics.
But I doubt you will ever understand that.
When David/Russell/Hone becomes our next PM the extra tax you will get to pay will give those poor HNZ folks you just mentioned a heat pump/insulation/new carpet etc.
Once they feel that the rest of us value them as citizens they will stop being so naughty!
“….What matters is love and care.. The rest is semantics….”
What matters is parenting. Gays can care, love and nuture children, but that is not all that parenting is.
A child in a gay relationship, will be suffering the loss of one or both of their parents their entire childhood. And it is manufactured loss. In unfortunate situations in the past when children have suffered the loss of a parent[s] their priority as children is what is addressed first.
If a child is fully adopted into a gay relationship, that child would have lost both his mother and father – and had them replaced with a father/father mother/mother: a second order arrangement. Manufactured second best practice.
No it is not semantics – for children, in ‘their’ childhood !
Surely Harriet if Donna dresses in a Dolly Parton outfit and Lynda dresses as a good old rootin, shootin, and fishin bloke (as I have heard) any sprogs would be in no doubt at all who their father was?
Thousands of kids lost their parents in hundreds of wars onlyto be raised by strangers.
Are you saying that all the kids felt lonely, abandoned and grew up as societies rubbish.
Because if you are you display a total ignorance and a lack of knowledge and contact with lots of them.
Sure they would have rather had mum and dad but various factors beyond their control decided it wasn’t to be.
That didn’t necessarily destroy all those young lives.
Today marks the 26th anniversary of a powerful earthquake that ripped through the eastern Bay of Plenty.
March 2, 1987 was a Monday, and just after 1.42PM a shallow quake of 6.3 on the Richter scale caused widespread damage in the area and was felt over most of the North Island.
More than fifty per cent of houses in Edgecumbe were damaged.
An 80 tonne locomotive was rolled over.
A seven kilometre rift – over one metre wide and two metres deep in parts – tore through the Rangitaiki Plains.
Over 6,000 domestic and industrial insurance claims were made, the largest was for more than $140 million, for the Bay Milk dairy processing plant.
Samlkl by conparison to Chch. But it could happen again anytime.
This will get all your mates goin johnboy. Gillard chopping the climate change dept.
In this climate, one department’s not safe
by: JOE KELLY
From: The Australian
March 02, 2013 12:00AM
LABOR is considering dissolving the $218 million-a-year Climate Change Department as part of a cost-saving restructure that could see it merged with another government bureaucracy.
The department is part of a $1.6 billion-a-year climate change behemoth in place to administer the government’s carbon tax. It also includes the Clean Energy Regulator, the Climate Change Authority and the Office of the Renewable Energy Regulator.
THE advertising watchdog has thrown out a complaint against a Brisbane burger joint after they used an image of a woman licking a cow’s face to promote their premium beef.
The Advertising Standards Board dismissed the complaint which described the Burger Urge image as loathsome, sick, wrong and perverted.
“I have noticed some Americanisms slipping into his language. But it comes from the music too. We are so immersed in American culture here – it’s a bit grotesque.”- Kiwi genius mother Michelle Lander finds Americanisms grotesque and yet the irony of naming her child a US inspired and copied first name ‘Hunter’ escapes the woman. Fucking hell what a fuckwit.
And don’t name your child India. That’s just wrong mate. Sorry Philip Leishman but that’s eye-roll stuff. Hello? Why not call your kid Greece? Or Rotovegas? Fucking idiots.
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:13 am
For all of those with an interest in scientific history have a look at this:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2013/3/1/1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html
Only 40 years ago…..
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:15 am
O-M-Gosh, the weirdest story so far this year. The six year old “transgender” banned from using the girls loos at school.
http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/03/02/trans-gender-banned-when-where-to-wee
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:23 am
The Blues were exciting last night, lots of committment with a captain who was passionate – the Crusaders look like they have had any sort of spontaneity breed out of them , when they tried something other than passing it back and forth across the field waiting for the opposition to make an error they buggered it up ,also they didn’t have their normal number 7 being offside at the breakdown all night.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:24 am
Some bedside reading for all you economists, anti business people and Bill English.
The book also reveals the extent to which Gallagher Group has benefited from its investment in research and development, and how the generous government export incentive policies of the 1970s boosted the company’s growth.
Tax deductions given to firms that increased exports in that decade effectively reduced the firm’s tax rate to zero. The firm also made use of a government R&D grant provided to companies that hired university science graduates.
Though the grant existed for only three years, it lasted long enough for Gallagher to appreciate the value that could be gained from R&D and a “culture of research-informed innovation” was established within the company, writes Goldsmith.
Gallagher Group, founded in 1938 by Gallagher’s father Bill snr, is today one of the country’s most successful and geographically diverse exporters with products sold in more than 130 countries. The company has revenues of close to $200 million and employs roughly 1000 staff around the world.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology-and-innovation/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501186&objectid=10868182
As Mike Moore writes in the foreword: “If New Zealand had another 100 Bill Gallaghers we would be the richest, most decent, best-natured nation on earth.”
As oppossed to the poor and broken arsed sad country we have. and before you all egt excited about that truth just refelct a bit about where we are and how tough most Kiwi’s are having and have had their exsistence for the last 5 years. And don’t blame someone elese like the GFC.
My concern for what its worth is that NZ is continuing to have disasters. Pike, earthqualkes, drought kwiwfruit, etc etc and what will be next. We no longer ahve any resilience in our economy because we try to be leader of the world rather than leaders in NZ. That’s what our politicians do.
Question. What oif this drought last another year or like aussie another 3 years??
What is going to happen to NZ in that senario, which could likely happen.
OR for that matter if we had another biggy earthquake say in Wellington.
Food for thinking for the weekend.
Support our companies more and more and more.
We did it for the Hobits and LOR. Why not the rest of us?? Bill.
Vote:Gallaghers set that apart so a lesson to be learned.
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:26 am
Chris Trotter has blasted a number of Labour MPs as a pack of attack dogs, including Clare Curran who he called Darien Fenton’s ‘grim lieutenant’.
Curran responded to this on Channel 9 last night:
Shooting the messenger but no denials. Curran responds to Trotter – devoid of substance
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:32 am
Your reaction to this story may indicate the psychological hold alcohol has on you.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:35 am
Pete that’s week old news and who the fuck cares if the slags are fighting. Its normal behavoir for them.
Let the go to it and they will self destruct.
Why don’t you talk about the things we need to do like what I have said above or is that just too complicated.
Vote:Why can’t we talk about what we need to get done urgently if we want to up or even hold onto our standard of living.
Time we set a better agenda instead of letting these slags and their mothers little helpers do it.
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:42 am
barry, weather men have a history of making false and fantastic predictions of doom. Remember when the Ozone Hole was in fashion. ? Notice you don’t hear weather men lying about that any more, to get “funding” ?
http://www.mitosyfraudes.org/Ingles/Crista.html
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:44 am
South Africa ,under new management is a far more brutal and dangerous place than it ever was under the evil white man.
But will the left and trendy urban elites ever admit that?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/9902728/South-African-police-officers-arrested-over-taxi-driver-video.html
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:48 am
Do you think they should bring back (or have never gotten rid of) Apartheid kowtow?
“But will the left and trendy urban elites ever admit that?” I don’t think anyone would argue South Africa is a less dangerous place now than it was 20 or 30 years ago.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:54 am
V2 Yes a great man Bill Gallagher.
I think we’re in the situation we’re in (massively exposed) because of simply unrestrained low quality spending for decades now. Billions on welfare, billions owed by students, by recalcitrant fathers, billions badly invested it just goes on and on and on. Good money sucked up in the courts, blown on fripperies like Maori TV, commissions for whatever you like.
Vast amounts on education where one in five fail!
Very telling comment the other day by H Clark at the U.N.
Q: ‘What are kiwis succeeding in overseas?’
A: ‘Look for Kiwis in the performing arts, music etc’.
Well fuckin good one Helen, that’s part of your legacy, and Tomorrow’s Schools. Kids that are good at kapa haka.
I don’t think our slide will stop in the foreseeable future because our culture is now one of entitlement and or expectation. We’re just going to muddle along until something comes along and knocks us sideways – could be a big shake in the capital, could be anything.
Good beaches but!
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:04 am
Apartheid was a blight on the planet, it had to go. What’s in place now is still coming to grips with the change or do you guys think it’s suppose to change in one day? Short life expectants get a bit apprehensive when they know they won’t see any change worth what they want to see in their lifetimes.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:05 am
Whaleoil posts yet another attack piece on a Christchurch family that can’t find a home. Despite his skills with social media, it’s somehow escaped his attention that:
a) They can’t find a place not because they have no money but because they have a poor credit rating and other factors and landlords keep turning them down as tenants. That they waste their money is one of the reasons for a poor credit history, one would have thought thus his reportage here only reinforces what the reporter wrote!
b) The reporter who reported on their plight is the *same* reporter that wrote the day before an article that there was no housing crisis in Christchurch. Whaleoil even blogged about her article at the time but did not notice the byline. This particular article was looking at the people in need of social housing as opposed to the general population.
c) Whaleoil even continues his idiocy by claiming that the Press editor has a change of heart on the issue and has thrown the reporter under the bus. The reporter that day had another article in the series mentioning the problem that first home buyers have (namely inflated expectations).
d) I see the reporter today mentions that she was attacked for being a national party plant. She must have been close to Peter Goodfellow then.
I worry that Whaleoil is taking a turn for the worse. There always was a nastiness in what he wrote (part of his charm, I’d admit) but over the past year, it’s gotten unpalatable.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:06 am
imp
Parents who dress a boy as a girl are grossly abusive.
The fact that activists get involved to push their own sick agenda compounds the abuse.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:09 am
metcalph
I gave up Whale due to his relentless and puerile attacks on Catholicism.
Try it ,you won’t be missing anything.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:21 am
Even Minto is appalled by the place now.
It is the rape, murder, robbery capital of the world. The genocide of the white farmers was totally ignored in our media, as was the general decline under the rule of convicted terrorist Mandela. It is a disgusting shit hole. Same as every other black ruled country. It is well overdue for the world to stop pouring money and aid into Africa. It is a very resource rich continent and if they want the benefits of modern civilisation then they can pay for it, same as every one else. Blacks are owed no duty of care and are victims of nothing more than their own behaviour.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:28 am
Not sure anyone is pouring money into South Africa.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:33 am
Let me answer that.
It depends on what you consider most important. Real world outcomes for actual people. Things like personal security, job prospects, health and education. The ability to walk down the road with out being raped or murdered. and so on.
OR
A bunch of liberals feeling good about themselves on the other side of the world.
Only a total scumbag would say blacks are better off now. Those people should be rounded up and sent there to live in the mess they created.
Funny story about Mandelas “rainbow nation”. The refugees from that other success story of black rule, Zimbabwe, were given the same treatment Mandela gave his political opponents before he was imprisoned. They stuck tyres over them, soaked in petrol, and burned them in the street alive and screaming. That is what every anti Apartheid person supports and they are directly responsible for the deaths of thousands. (Of course they are gutless filth and will deny responsibility.)
SA is going to go the way of Zimbabwe. From a bread basket to a basket case.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:38 am
The book also reveals the extent to which Gallagher Group has benefited from its investment in research and development, and how the generous government export incentive policies of the 1970s boosted the company’s growth.
Tax deductions given to firms that increased exports in that decade effectively reduced the firm’s tax rate to zero. The firm also made use of a government R&D grant provided to companies that hired university science graduates.
Though the grant existed for only three years, it lasted long enough for Gallagher to appreciate the value that could be gained from R&D and a “culture of research-informed innovation” was established within the company, writes Goldsmith.
Thank you V2 for this. As I keep telling people, look at Ireland’s Celtic Tiger model, which saw Ireland become the world’s biggest software exporter in the early noughties. Bigger than the US. Lest people misunderstand, the Celtic Tiger model has nothing to do with what is now happening in Ireland, that was caused by their mishandling of the free credit arising from Germany’s low interest rates being applied to all EU countries. They are two totally separate issues and should never be conflated.
Ireland did two things: (1) they identified two industries in which they wished to prosper and focused their entire educational system on providing people for those industries and (2) they setup tax incentives designed to attract multi-nationals to setup R&D and manufacturing facilities for those industries.
The two industries she chose were software and bioinformatics, which is number crunching for genetic research (i.e. drug companies). The latter industry requires around 7-8 IT specialists for every scientist so they were in fact very complementary choices. We could chose something similar. We rely on heavily on plant and animal genetics and we have a huge science base (rapidly depleting through non-replacement) of people who are specialists in highly eclectic areas of those two fields. So we have a head start on those areas.
Secondly they setup low tax zones in economically depressed areas of the country which encouraged multi-nationals to establish themselves in.
That’s it.
Simple, isn’t it.
Today there are complications. No-one was doing it back then but now, for example, most multi-nationals pay very little tax due to structuring their affairs so they funnel their revenue through offices domiciled in low tax countries. Apple and Google for example have hit the headlines in recent months over this. This is a problem for us, but not an insurmountable one if we applied our minds to it.
Doing this however goes against both the left and the right. In 2001 one of the architects of the Celtic Tiger gave a lecture at Akld Business School where I learned this, he was flying to Wgtn to talk to Hulun the next day. As we know, nothing happened, this is because I suspect to lefties, it’s anaethema to have a low tax zone where hated multinationals would pay less tax than the poor worker victims. And obviously some on the right seem to hallucinate that the market will solve everything so we should be hands off and clearly this model is far from that.
BUT IT WORKED.
And results are the only thing that matter.
That is our answer and guess what, after five years of conservative govt, nothing has happened in the economy, has it. Their philosophy hasn’t worked, has it. Neither did the lefty philosophy because they just pissed away the revenues from the most miraculous growth period in our history on useless millstones like WFF for rich people and interest-free student loans.
So both sides are useless here. We need to try something new, and what’s wrong with looking at the Celtic Tiger? Some may say, the EU access is what made Ireland attractive. Well, for us, here and now, what does China look like to you? Same thing the EU was to Ireland twenty years ago, right? That’s right.
The timing is perfect, our geography is perfect, we need something, anything. Because doing nothing is not working. If it was, we would already have 1,000 Gallaghers. But we don’t do we.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:40 am
“….Not sure anyone is pouring money into South Africa….”
I just read in the Courier Mail[qld] on Friday that Australian companies have invested $50 bil in Africa. It is exactly like Kea said. Resource rich. The Catholic Church and other denominations are also making huge headway into peoples lives there. Reports are that the religions do more to help Africans than does the UN and NGO’s.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:40 am
“Not sure anyone is pouring money into South Africa.”
I was not talking about SA. However if white westerners are not pouring money into SA now, they soon will be. You can be sure of that.
Africa is a living monument to the failure of white do-gooders who think inside every black is a white european liberal just waiting to get out. They are wrong.
Most people have no idea of the level of savagery that goes on daily in Africa. The liberal media will not report it or will put in a brief little piece deep inside a news paper, so as to hide the reality of blacks in Africa. I remember reading a little piece like that once. About 70 women and children were rounded up and caught in a net. Instead of shooting them, they saved bullets by hacking them to death. It got about 5 lines in the paper.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:40 am
Very few “independant” African countries ,if any made a success of their “freedom”.
If anything they are more dependant than ever on the white mans’ largesse. Without aid in one form or the other their ruling elites would ,like their citizens,also be living in mud huts without electricity,like Obama’s granny in Kenya.
Uganda and Ghana are other good examples of breadbaskets turned into basket cases.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:44 am
“Very few”… Name ONE that you would call a success ?
(Don’t be naughty and try and use a Muslim Arab ruled country as an example)
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:46 am
What is the first thing locals on the ground generally ask UN staff for, when they arrive in whatever African shit hole they’ve been sent to?
Food? No. Water? No. Shelter? No. Protection from their fellow countrymen? Yes.
SA is fucked but don’t worry, the Chinese will have it fixed shortly!
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:51 am
reid
In summary.
The exprt focus in Ireland has worked,there is nothing new in thatpolicy. The danger is that that success is based as it was in the 60 s and 70s on being a “branch factory’economy.
2 stars aligned for that policy. EEC membership and new technology.
The Irish govt essentially bribes those corps into setting up shop.When someone else offers a bigger bribe the factories will move say to Slovenia or where ever. Germany has a similar problem and has to bribe it’s own indusrty to stay at home rather than move across the road or river to Poland to take advantage of lower wages.
It’s simply corporate welfare and as such is unsustainable.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:51 am
Are you saying that apartheid is morally acceptable? Do the blacks need a white master race to rule them?
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:53 am
Black Africans live in the richest place on earth. Herds of game, plenty of land for farming, vast mineral and oil wealth, it has got it all.
They have had more time to get it right than anyone. They are in the cradle of humanity living in a virtual garden of eden. Yet they have never built anything but the most basic and primitive civilisation.
I do not judge them for that. They were here first and will be here last I suspect. But they can not expect the benefits of civilisation while doing none of the things required to obtain those benefits. I have nothing against black Africans, but do-gooding whites who paint blacks as “victims” make my blood boil.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:53 am
Metcalph @ 9.05
WhaleOil has his General Debate open now if you want to vent your spleen to him.
Vote:He also says “Not meant for children or stupid adults”
Fill ya boots
March 2nd, 2013 at 9:54 am
1. Yes
2. No
It depends on what you consider most important. Real world outcomes for actual people. Things like personal security, job prospects, health and education. The ability to walk down the road with out being raped or murdered. and so on.
OR
A bunch of liberals feeling good about themselves on the other side of the world.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:56 am
African countries were at their best the day before the colonial power left (and mostly they left because of the pressure from do-gooders who wanted the shakle of the white man removed).
Trouble is , the colonial powers are what made africa as good as it was and when they left the africans returned to their old ways of tribalism – which means killing everyone else, and if not then tasking their property.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:56 am
I’m out of here now.
Vote:See? I spray and walk away!
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:01 am
Are you saying that apartheid is morally acceptable? Do the blacks need a white master race to rule them?
No. They need systems put in place so the civilians can go about their own personal business unhindered. Not socialism, but a professional army, police and justice dept. They are the only places where UN money should be spent.
Schools and hospitals can then be run privately with charitable money first.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:01 am
But lets just let the blacks speak for themselves and compare it to what self hating whites in NZ are saying …..
Major former ANC leader – “We were better off under Apartheid”
One of the biggest figures in the ANC has broke ranks and declared that blacks were better off under Apartheid. Julius Malema recently split with the ANC. Malema is famous for singing songs about murdering white people at ANC rallies.
http://cofcc.org/2012/08/major-former-anc-leader-we-were-better-off-under-apartheid/
Black South Africans Lived Better Under Apartheid
The average African is worse off now than during the colonial era, the brother of South Africa’s President Thabo Mbeki has said.
http://menghusblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/black-south-africans-lived-better-under-apartheid/
Were blacks better off under apartheid?
Jewish World Review
Walter Williams
MORAL crusaders have the habit of heading off to their next crusade without bothering to see whether anything went wrong on their last one. During the ’80s, TransAfrica, NAACP, Black Congressional Caucus, Hollywood glitterati, college students, and other groups held massive protests on college campuses and at the South African Embassy, built shanty towns, and called for disinvestment and sanctions against South Africa for its racist apartheid system.
There’s no longer apartheid and there’s black rule in South Africa, but what’s the story there now? Andrew Kenny writes about it in his article, “Black People Aren’t Animals.” The article appears in the December 15 issue of the British magazine The Spectator, the world’s oldest continuously published English language magazine (est. 1838).
Each South African day sees an average of 59 murders, 145 despoils and 752 serious assaults out of its 42 million population. The new crime is the violation of babies; some AIDS-infected African men believe that Being Intimate with a virgin is a cure. Twelve percent of South Africa’s population is HIV-positive, but President Mbeki says that HIV cannot cause AIDS.
In response to growing violence, South Africa’s minister of safety and security, Steve Tshwete, says: “We can’t police this; there’s nothing more we can do. South Africa’s currency, the rand, has fallen about 70 percent since the African National Congress (ANC) came to power in 1994. Emigration from South Africa (mainly of skilled people) is now at its highest level ever.”
Kenny asks, “Is South Africa doomed to follow the rest of Africa into oblivion?
http://www.nairaland.com/683786/blacks-better-off-under-apartheid
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:02 am
~Yeah, bring back slavery. Show those niggers who’s boss.~
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:04 am
kowtow you’ve obviously misunderstood something. Ireland did not focus on manufacturing, it focused on knowledge work, that’s why it oriented its education system accordingly. Slovenia therefore can’t do the sort of work Ireland attracted because the multinationals weren’t looking for low wage pairs of hands, but highly educated minds in specific fields.
While knowledge work is also subject to the forces of offshoring, this is why India has been so popular with software projects, it’s not to quite the same extent as manufacturing is, and the more you setup in eclectic esoteric areas of high demand, the less offshoring becomes a viable competitor. This is why I suggest we look at animal and plant genetics, because just like in rugby, we have a heritage in that area that the world would find hard to replicate.
I’m not saying those suggested industries are necessarily the correct ones, greater minds than mine would no doubt be able to think through many different alternatives. My point was, why don’t we just simply turn our minds to it, rather than keep going through life without a plan or direction, as we currently do. And I’m also not saying there won’t be issues and problems, we all know for example that China is the world’s biggest expropriator of IP and it will no doubt continue that trend and that would be an issue for us if we went down this road. But just because it’s a problem doesn’t mean it’s a show stopper and treating it like it would be will simply keep us on the road to nowhere. And is our current road to nowhere a good thing or a bad thing?
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:08 am
Scott Chris, do not try and claim the moral high ground by expressing concern for niggers. You do not care about niggers at all. If you did car about niggers you would want the best outcomes (for niggers) not what makes you “look good”.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:18 am
We are short lifers aren’t we and male mister fix its. What happened after Rome fell? Africa will go islam as the rest of the white planet want to rape it along with the chinese, you call it modernizing, i call it what it is, resource rape by fooling the black tribal man. That’s what it comes down to, we take what is theirs by right of age and throw them God and a cheap cell phone.
The whole continent is an aged civilization and that’s where we are headed if we continue to be a country in it’s present form for the next few thousand years. Civilizations age, we didn’t bring it to them.
They don’t need ruling just like we don’t, it’s only agendists like Kea who think they need it on the pretense of managing their resources for them? Aye Kea? That’s it isn’t it? People don’t invest without wanting a return whether it’s emotional or physical.
What’s happening in Africa is cultural as well as change, What makes you people think it was going to be painless.
I’m going to tell you what an apatheid escaper once told me “9 million wanting to be your servant, what do you think?” Those that stay get what they get.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:21 am
Hopefully this is not too far off topic but somebody might be able to help.
Vote:Fonterra have announced a bonus issue.
But they never announced any tax implications in any such bonus issue.
Does any contributor to this site know anything about it?
Like, is it fully imputed? Is the bonus issue taxable? Do sharemilkers get anything from it? What about lower order sharemilkers?
As usual; so many questions; so few answers.
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:25 am
scott chris
you are being ridiculous.
Besides few black slaves ever freed themselves. White British Christians did.Enforced by the Royal Navy.
The slaves who liberated themselves made a great success of Haiti,another UN basket case.
Oh yes that darling of the anti Christian rationalists,the man said to have ended feudalism in Europe ,Napoleon,reintroduced slavery.Great moderniser indeed.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:28 am
Go the Blues. The team to watch so I am told. … If anyone is ever interested !!. Dan Carter apart from a few easy goal kicks played like an old woman last night so he should head off to France now before he injures himself …, again.
I shall go back to watching paint dry. More interesting.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:29 am
Kea#
Wilbur Smith has always said that African countries were better off under the British – and he would have a reasonable understanding of that time in Africa. Some people here don’t realise that SA was really under the Boers – former dutch settlers. They operated in SA far differantly than the British did elsewhere.
Ian Smith being kicked out of Rhodesia is a good case study of a country that was good under British rule, then the 60′s ‘elites’ in Britian and elswhere sided with rebels for ‘independance’ – Mugabe has been in charge ever since – and now look at the shit hole.
Rhodesia used to be a major exporter of agriculture – an industry that created huge employment there in the 50′s 60′s and early 70′s – now they can hardly feed themselves.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:30 am
Harriet (1,207) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:01 am
….”Are you saying that apartheid is morally acceptable? Do the blacks need a white master race to rule them?”…..
No -But they need honest leaders who have the best interest of the country upper most.
Unfortunately there are very few Africans who fit this category. I think there is one female leader in west Africa who had made her country work. the rest terrorize their people, raid the national treasury and couldnt give a rats arse about their fellow countrymen, women and children.
Now – historically the practice of Apartheid worked better than South Africa works today. Doesnt mean to say it was right – but one could well argue that it was more ‘right’ than what theyve got today. And I think there are many people in Zimbabwe and those similar countries who would welcome the type of country thet aparthieid would give them – better public order than theyve got now, a decent economy, and health and education system that auint perfect but better than theyve got now.
Its all very high and mighty to say thinks like ‘Apartheid is bad’ – but what thyve got now is a lot worse. As Chruchill said democracy is the worst form of governmet except for all the others., One might say Apartheid is the worst form of governmet for south africa except for the one they are using now.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:37 am
Not my position at all.
My position is for whites to get out of Africa, along with all aid and hand outs, and leave them to it. As I already said, if they want civilisation they can pay for it.
kowtow. African Slavery was going on before whites ever went near the place. It still goes on today. The novel idea that slavery is “wrong” was popularised by Europeans, NOT Africans. They clearly have no issue with it, but will claim otherwise situationally out of self interest. Just like the lie they believe in equality.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:54 am
“It depends on what you consider most important. Real world outcomes for actual people. Things like personal security, job prospects, health and education. The ability to walk down the road with out being raped or murdered. and so on.”
Under apartheid the only people who had “personal security, job prospects, health and education” were the whites. Or ‘actual people’ as you put it. You racist prick.
Having been to South Africa three times now I can tell your view would be fairly unwelcome there, despite the troubles they face.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:54 am
barry#
I haven’t suggested that aparteid or white rule is better.
I’m suggesting that with a UN funded army[border control] police[civilian law and order] justice[order of government] that the civilians have a better chance of forming a democratic country that suits their needs.
UN funding should be paid on a basis for the wages of police, army and judges – a good salary to keep out corruption. They could even pay it weekly into bank accounts from Brussles. To ‘fund’ the govt in ‘one large amount’ would simply see the country return to ‘despot status’ with a military dictatorship. Clearly it would be on a country to country basis at the most oportune time. NZ Police and other commonwealth Police services ‘train’ police from other countries – there are even Indonesian army officers who receive training at Duntroon Millitary College in Aust.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 10:59 am
apart from being a shit newspaper, the heralds video streaming is also garbage.
i can stream 1080p from youtube but low res rugby highlights wont stream for shit from the herald site.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 11:01 am
Kea (2,297) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:37 am
I agree with you on the no hand outs and pulling the whites out, let the ones interested in helping and teaching do their jobs but what gets me is what did people expect would happen in S.A and Zimbabwe? No change is without a long period of down scaling.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 11:04 am
Explain why millions of blacks moved to SA, under apartheid, to work ?
Calling me “racist” has no effect or meaning. Being “racist” is a natural human state. It is driven by the exact same thing, as loving your kids, sexual attraction, survival instinct, love and so on. Its about survival of your genes. Idiot. It is not an excuse to mistreat others, however.
Just the same, your the “racist prick” because you hold niggers to a different standard than others. If the “majority” of SA was white, we would not be having this conversation. You be crying out about how awful the white savages are and bemoaning the state of the place. You would be wailing for the UN to “do something” to save the black minority.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 11:06 am
Rhodesia was far differant than SA. They didn’t have apartied. Blacks were mostly housed and feed- albeit ‘their’ style – so ‘independance’ seemed to them the next step up.The government were an easy target for British elites to take down. The rebels came asking for independance and the elites agreed. England at the time was in it’s own class war and the uni ptotesters saw it as a chance to dispose of a British ‘ruling class’.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 11:12 am
Harriet, are you joking re the UN?
Is this the same UN who’s people have been raping kids wholesale in Africa ? (guess where the rapists came from? They forgot to mention that…)
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 11:22 am
Kea#
I’m aware of all that.
And that is why you don’t really want a UN ‘ground force’ of civillans at the coal face. It is not only that the bad ones get in there but that the blacks become dependant on their services over time. I’m not saying they shouldn’t have any UN staff in there, but it is all really about ‘organising’ the blacks so that they can then help themselves.They are human and willing. Stable authority is the only thing that can really create the ‘opportunity’ for them to do so.
Blacks like everyone else have to take ‘ownership’ of their societies. No one else can given the immediate history of the place.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 11:24 am
Does anybody know of a time when the Greens have said anything good about National? Would we really want a party in power or coalition which is so one eyed?
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 11:24 am
TheContrarian, supports this. He thinks this is best.
“Farm murders getting more sadistic
“The public must know how cruelly these people are being murdered. We were at scenes where people’s skins were peeled off their bodies; where children are drowned in boiling water. It’s horrific.” – Crime Scene Cleanup”
http://www.thetruthaboutsouthafrica.com/
*Warning* This link shows what is really happening in Mandelas rainbow nation.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 11:27 am
str
it is all really about ‘organising’ the blacks so thatthey can then help themselves.There, fixed it !
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 11:30 am
“TheContrarian, supports this. He thinks this is best.”
I support no such thing and as I have family on farms in South Africa I find your comment quite repugnant.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 11:34 am
Ok.
How does this sound ?: Reclaim England and Northern Europe for the native Europeans. “Those that stay get what they get”
Are we all ok with that boys and girls ?
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 11:39 am
I don’t give a shit what you feel. You do support it. It is thanks to people like you that SA is in the state it is today. You are directly responsible.
Black and whites are all far worse off. I have provided links to black representatives who agree with me. You know dam well SA is in decline, but try and deny it to make yourself look like your not a “racist”. You do not care about blacks. You care more about ideology than practical outcomes. Your family lives in the mess you lot created. You should be ashamed.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 12:24 pm
From the Financial Post (and dedicated to Pete George and Griff):
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 12:26 pm
DID YOU KNOW: There Was An ARMED REBELLION In Athens Tennessee In 1946? Here is the story [VIDEO]
Veterans grew suspicious of a vote count and challenged the authorities with armed force. Another reason arms are being taken off Americans. UK and Oz have already done it. The Brits protested too late.
The Battle of Athens was an armed rebellion led by WWII veterans and citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the tyrannical local government in August 1946.
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/did-you-know-there-was-an-armed-rebellion-in-athens-g-a-in-1946-here-is-the-story-video/
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 12:35 pm
This link from Kea is appropriate for the current times in NZ -
This 10m clip keeps getting taken off youtube so see it while you still can! [and before pete complains to DPF]
It’s funny but so very true!
http://www.thetruthaboutsouthafrica.com/2013/01/the-other-side-of-coin.html
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 12:36 pm
Well yes, I did know and you and can read about it here.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 12:53 pm
Another piece of common sense dedicated to Pete George and Griff of course!
The anti-fossil fuel crowd is constantly carping about our carbon footprint, but use of the word ‘carbon’ distorts the issue. It is not carbon (black soot) that is being released today. In theUSwe have largely solved that problem; even with coal-burning electricity-generating plants, the smoke is scrubbed. What they are really opposed to is carbon dioxide — a harmless gas, breathed out by every living animal and absorbed by every living plant. Carbon dioxide makes up only 0.03 percent of the earth’s atmosphere – not 3 percent, not 3 tenths of one percent, but 3 hundredths of one percent.
However, if you think that an increase in the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is a problem then there is a simple solution that won’t send us back to the preindustrial era or jack up the cost of power – plant trees. All plants, but especially trees, absorb carbon dioxide. Trees are decorative. Let’s cover our cities in green — trees on every street and in every parking lot, window boxes filled with plants, roof top gardens.
Now that would be a real green revolution.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 1:00 pm
Harriet, CARBON simply means *organic* in that context.
All known life is carbon based. The warmists don’t want you to know that. They want you to imagine a black grimy sooty sort of carbon. Like every thing else they say, its a lie or at least misleading.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 1:01 pm
Did you know that slavery still exists in Africa?
A “French ” couple bought a girl and brought her to France.
By the way ,they’re not French ,they’re African.
Let’s celebrate diversity and multiculturalism.
http://www.thelocal.fr/page/view/french-couple-pay-4500-for-african-slave-girl
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Harriet. Only whites can be “racist”. That is accepted mainstream lefty doctrine.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 1:07 pm
kowtow, our ideas about equality, human rights and slavery are not held by Africans. They are recently formed white eurocentric views. Most of the world does not think that way.
Of course they will claim they believe in equality and human rights, but only FOR THEM. Most certainly not for their fellow blacks
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 1:12 pm
Hardly surprising given the revelations of the past few years.
http://www.nouvelles.umontreal.ca/udem-news/news/20130301-mother-teresa-anything-but-a-saint.html
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 1:15 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9903683/Lecturer-fined-28000-after-scratching-graffiti-into-cars.html
After 3/4′s of a bottle of gin, its called pissed not a disassociative state, the antibotics will have had very little to do with it.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 1:21 pm
TheContrarian, still waiting for you to explain why millions of blacks wanted to immigrate to apartheid SA ?
White settlers built SA through hard work. Blacks migrated there in the millions for a higher standard of living, prospects for the future and personal safety (we take that for granted, but it is a big issue in Africa). They wanted a piece of the action.
The blacks who moved there fought among themselves, divided along tribal or religious grounds. The whites tried to stop them murdering and torturing each other. White liberals like TheContrarian would show images of the SA security forces clashing with blacks and tell you lies that they were fighting for freedom and against apartheid. They were really fighting for the right to kill, torture, rape and rob other blacks from a different tribe.
White liberals taught the blacks that they were “victims” and infected them with entitlitis. Eventually these blacks from all over Africa thought THEY should have the fruits of the whites hard work and endurance. This nation carved out of nothing should be thrown to waiting pack of blacks to be divided up and destroyed. The plan worked.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 1:22 pm
Good moaning Kiwibloggers!
WHERE IS THE ‘MANDATE’ FOR ASSET SALES????
Yes – National did campaign for asset sales – albeit in a a not very ‘open and transparent’ way?
You will note that their 2011 pre-election policy did NOT say – “National supports asset sales”, or “National supports the Mixed Ownership Model for key state assets”.
http://www.national.org.nz/mixed-ownership.aspx
THIS is the rather sly way that National wiggled in their stated asset sale policy – prior to the 2011 election:
http://www.national.org.nz/PDF_General/Future_Investment_Fund_policy.pdf
“Building savings and investment
National is increasing savings and creating jobs built on exports and productive investment.
We’re getting on top of debt, and returning to surplus sooner.
We will extend the successful mixed-ownership model – where the Government owns most of a
company, but offers a minority stake to investors – to four state-owned energy companies, and reduce the government’s stake in Air New Zealand. This will give Kiwis a chance to invest in large New Zealand companies.”
The 2011 election results?
National got 59 out of 121 MPs.
The final vote on the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership Model) Amendment Act 2012, was 61 – 60
http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Debates/Debates/e/8/e/50HansD_20120626_00000012-State-Owned-Enterprises-Amendment-Bill-Public.htm
A party vote was called for on the question, That the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership Model) Amendment Bill be now read a third time.
Ayes 61
New Zealand National 59; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.
Noes 60
New Zealand Labour 34; Green Party 14; New Zealand First 8; Māori Party 3; Mana 1.
_____________________________________________________________________________
HOWEVER:
” UF (United Future) did not specifically campaign for the ‘mixed ownership model for the electricity companies and Air New Zealand’ because it was not UF (United Future)policy”
[ Pete George (16,292) Says: February 15th, 2013 at 10:28 pm]
In my considered opinion – the voting public of Ohariu were thus effectively misled by United Future and Peter Dunne on the issue of support for the ‘Mixed Ownership Model’ for State-Owned electricity assets and Air New Zealand.
In my considered opinion, United Future and Peter Dunne SOLD OUT the voting public of Ohariu by voting in support of the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership) Amendment Act 2012.
Had Peter Dunne kept faith with the voting public of Ohariu – the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership Model) Amendment Bill should have BEEN DEFEATED 60 – 61.
I thus believe that I am absolutely correct in my statement that THERE IS NO MANDATE FOR ASSET SALES – given that this minority National Government (which DID campaign on asset sales) has only 59 out of 121 MPs.
Do the maths folks!
It ISN’T complicated?
NO MAJORITY – NO MANDATE.
Penny Bright
‘Anti-corruption campaigner’
2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate.
http://www.occupyaucklandvsaucklandcouncilappeal.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/OCCUPY-AUCKLAND-APPEAL-APPLICATION-BY-APPELLANT-BRIGHT-TO-ADDUCE-NEW-EVIDENCE-pdf.pdf
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 1:30 pm
Lib Dems win key by-election as UKIP pushes Tories into 3rd place
Published on Mar 1, 2013
The UK Independence party has beaten the governing Conservatives into third place, in a key by-election. The Liberal Democrats held the seat, but the vote highlights the ever-growing support for those calling for Britain to exit the EU…
Vote:
March 2nd, 2013 at 1:37 pm
It ISN’T complicated?
Apparently it is complicated for people like you Penny, but this doesn’t surprise me. Your post is complete bullshit. The language they invented for the asset sales was used extensively during the campaign and anyone who didn’t understand what it meant is a drop-dead mental.
If you have to post on something, and we don’t mind if you don’t, from all accounts of the feedback you get whenever you do, at least post on a real point, as opposed to something like this, which is invented entirely from your own feeble mind and that of the left, who apparently, don’t like it when they lose. After all it was a very senior lefty who said: “we won, you lost, eat that” wasn’t it. But yet this doesn’t seem to apply to you, when it happens. Why is that?
(BTW that’s a rhetorical question Penny, I don’t you to answer that, I already know.)
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 1:47 pm
Penny Dim#
Penny do you have a web cam?
I’d like to have a look at these ‘assets’ of ‘yours’ that you continuely brag about!
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Penny Bright – I thus believe that I am absolutely correct in my statement that THERE IS NO MANDATE FOR ASSET SALES – given that this minority National Government (which DID campaign on asset sales) has only 59 out of 121 MPs.
Do the maths folks! It ISN’T complicated?
NO MAJORITY – NO MANDATE.
Penny, you should bring this to the attention of the Governor General – perhaps with a Police Officer and a Member of the Serious Fraud Office in attendance …
Vote:Oh! – I see that in fact you have emailed Jerry about this – Monday June 25, 2012 at 5:12pm – he should have answered by now
Pray tell us what his reply was …
March 2nd, 2013 at 2:05 pm
Penny:
Try considering facts, you’ve been shown them.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 2:13 pm
cha posts a link to 2 Froggie women from French Canada ,both university academics ,one in psychoeducation,whatever that is
and they are complaining that Mother Theresa ,not her real name,shock horror had , among many other faults cited “overly dogmatic views regarding in particular abortion,contraception and divorce”
Well knock me down the woman was a Roman Catholic nun for fucks sake.
Is it any wonder that modern academics are held in such piss poor regard,coming up with that fucking rubbish?
And how much Anglo Canadian taxpayers’ money is going into this cutting edge stuff.
Cha ,you’re another anti Catholic troll.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 2:16 pm
‘The One’ told everyone everywhere about ‘having hope’ -well they would fucken need to- as Obama himself is fucken hopeless!
http://daleoleary.wordpress.com/2012/11/02/obamas-fantasy-foreign-policy/
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 2:25 pm
“Cha ,you’re another anti Catholic troll.”
Not only that, he is a pathetic intellectual coward unable to write and form his own arguments, and who in his political incoherence, often suggests links which are in many cases completely unsupportive of his frequently Marxist POV.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 2:30 pm
And I’m a Catholic too.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Mr Graham, who had no recollection of the events, had previously stated that he did not agree with people driving large 4x4s, otherwise known as Chelsea tractors, in cities.
Words he carved into the paintwork included “arbitrary”, “wrong”, “very silly” and “twat”.
So what happened to this lefty ? He had to pay some reparation, but no penalty. (suspended sentence) Sickening .
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 2:35 pm
“So what happened to this lefty ?”
And these despicable fucking communist cowards always do it in the dead of night.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 2:35 pm
A quick google search has confirmed that the offender is a known warmist. What do you know …
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 3:00 pm
This is interesting and something to keep an eye on:
http://www.frontiersin.org/news/Mind_of_its_own_building_a_human_brain_-_Telegraph/262
I read the other day apparently our brains process around 400 billion bits of information a second, but we’re only consciously aware of about 2,000 bits/s.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 3:01 pm
“….You don’t appreciate a lot of stuff in school until you get older. Little things like being spanked every day by a middle aged woman: Stuff you pay good money for in later life….”
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Yes Catholic cha,when it suits you you claim to be catholic,but here we have your view on the “whole stinking edifice.”
cha (2,052) Says:
February 12th, 2013 at 10:06 am
This kicker, who has been baptised, received communion and been confirmed, was for many years ambivalent about the church and its catechisms but the delirium of an aged dementia sufferer changed that.
This kicker now lives in hope that the exposing of the extent of the boy fucking peccadillo’s of it’s clergy, the efforts of the elite enablers to excuse their behaviour and the moral bankruptcy of the lay apologists who try to minimise the crimes will cause the collapse of the whole stinking edifice.
edit: Don the Kiwi apologist, go fuck yourself.
Vote:Hot debate. What do you think? 4 17
March 2nd, 2013 at 3:13 pm
The Act of 1871: The “United States” Is a Corporation – There are Two Constitutions
Since the Act of 1871 which established the District of Columbia, we have been living under the UNITED STATES CORPORATION which is owned by certain international bankers and aristocracy of Europe and Britain.
In 1871 the Congress changed the name of the original Constitution by changing ONE WORD — and that was very significant as you will read.
Some people do not understand that ONE WORD or TWO WORDS difference in any “legal” document DO make the critical difference. But, Congress has known, and does know, this.
1871, February 21: Congress Passes an Act to Provide a Government for the District of Columbia, also known as the Act of 1871.
With no constitutional authority to do so, Congress creates a separate form of government for the District of Columbia, a ten mile square parcel of land (see, Acts of the Forty-first Congress,” Section 34, Session III, chapters 61 and 62).
The act — passed when the country was weakened and financially depleted in the aftermath of the Civil War — was a strategic move by foreign interests (international bankers) who were intent upon gaining a stranglehold on the coffers and neck of America.
The Act of 1871: The “United States” Is a Corporation – There are Two Constitutions Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N2Lw_5ex8KA
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 3:53 pm
Indeed, that is my view of the church kowtow, and if Dante’s hell were to exist the sexual offenders would be the first ones to be truly punished, condemned to the second circle as carnal malefactors while the heart of the whole stinking edifice, the enablers and apologists, are to be condemned to the eighth circle, Malebolge, as fraudulent advisers and evil counsellors.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 3:59 pm
I didn’t realize that when Roosevelt was president of the states there was a group that was dead set on proving he was jewish and that he was set up to be a dictator, his presidency came about during hard financial times and so has Obama’s, who has a group that are dead set on proving he’s a muslim or is it something else.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 4:02 pm
And Roosevelt was far more handsome and Aryan looking than Obama too.
Some conspiracies seem to grow wings of there own eh?
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 4:13 pm
Dawkins is a gutless turd.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/dawkins_ducks/
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Claiming Obama is a Muslim is absurd.
He is hated in the Muslim world, more so than Bush. He has attacked Muslim countries all over the Middle East and Africa. He escalated the war in Afghanistan and only withdrew from Iraq because of the withdrawal plans made by Bush. He intends to invade most of the remaining countries in Africa to murder more Muslims.
I think he must have been molested by an iman while in Indonesia or something.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Still Kea. You have to admit that Obama don’t quite look like your good old down home darkie fellars from Memphis!
http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Furry+lewis&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=qHUxUf-6O9GhiAfP8YAI&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1482&bih=887
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:01 pm
You can see the pattern here? Roosevelt, alleged to be a jew, Obama alleged not to be an American, both during harsh financial times with future outlook to be bleak. Must be a human thing to want to blame someone in power and the guy at the top get’s it.
The Yanks don’t play ball with whoever they put in power, it’s in their blood to rail against their governments, it doesn’t matter who or what the person/persons are.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:03 pm
‘Pauleastbay (3,344) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:23 am
The Blues were exciting last night, lots of committment with a captain who was passionate – the Crusaders look like they have had any sort of spontaneity breed out of them , when they tried something other than passing it back and forth across the field waiting for the opposition to make an error they buggered it up ,also they didn’t have their normal number 7 being offside at the breakdown all night.’
Williams pulled out some prime tackles, including one on Dagg when he was free-running, the sort of tackles that are made by instinct and can turn a game. Noakes was a surprise and there was good comment on his game by Gregor Paul in the Herald. Yesterday as well, where the writer pointed out that the Blues teams of the recent past have pointed out ‘mistakes’ where as the current bunch are determined to fix them. The coaches are showing some deft touches, included in those is having Ranger highly motivated and a leader, and putting Mc Cartney in a single role. Suddenly the losses of Nonu, Anscombe and the tight head pale, maybe the tide has turned.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:07 pm
“The Yanks don’t play ball with whoever they put in power, it’s in their blood to rail against their governments, it doesn’t matter who or what the person/persons are.”
Bit like reading the comments on Stuff about JK you mean Azeraph?
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Muslims might hate Obama for blowing them up but they also understand he went to a madrassa ,had a Muslim father and could have been one himself. To Muslims leaving is punishable by death.
Obama though is on a massive outreach to them.Ezra Levant on The Post American President.
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March 2nd, 2013 at 5:14 pm
Oh dear. What a twagedy.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/25/anti-defamation-league-slams-seth-macfarlanes-jews-control-hollywood-joke/
I didn’t watch the Oscars, it’s a waste of time, but I wonder if he made a joke about scientology as well. As in, if you ever diss scientology. don’t expect to ever find work in Hollyweird again.
BTW, you’d think the easiest way for the ADL to dispel the “myth” about Jews in Hollyweird would be to list all the hundreds and hundreds of studios that aren’t run by Jews. I wonder why they don’t do that?
Oh double dear! Appawently, he was sexist and wacist as well. Oh the humanity.
http://www.deadline.com/2013/02/oscars-debate-still-rages-about-seth-macfarlane-is-there-a-double-standard-at-play/
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Maybe Obama is of the third branch of Islam. A Sunnishite.
That’s why the other two hate him.
He’s far too happy!
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:21 pm
Sunnishite – sun shines out of his …
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:22 pm
Johnboy (9,955) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 5:07 pm
JK bows to the Americans too much for my liking, his ancestry don’t mean shit to me or probably to anyone else here in nz, somethings i like but he’s got slap the IRD for using the census as a platform for information gathering, they have to be slapped hard, too many indians working there as it is in their make up to do what they are ordered to do like they did with ACC.
Making people pay tax on using a company laptop/ipad/phone and not the company speaks volumes, That’s right! A worker using company tech gets charged, not the company. I understand why but then business has been forced to blow on continually upgrading their gear making the workers pay is something different.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:29 pm
I always knew you were a Democrat at heart Yvette!
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:32 pm
“too many indians working there”
Quite right Azeraph. America never got to be great by letting the Indians beat John Wayne.
I’ll send a memo to Key about the problem right now!
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:45 pm
There is so much cheap american realty at the moment that it is sad what you can get for 300,000k over there, and that’s in our dollars. Maybe if we get the Ozzies to make a deal with every boat they catch that they and us will escort them all the way to the Calif coast instead of there and eventually here. He he.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:47 pm
azraf
Are you suggesting the IRD sack staff based on their race?
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:50 pm
I think he’s suggesting that they hire John Wayne as their HR Manager kowtow!
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 5:53 pm
There is so much cheap american realty at the moment that it is sad what you can get for 300,000k over there
Or perhaps it’s sad how much we have to pay and what we get for that here.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 6:10 pm
Good article on China’s tactics in the foreign policy arena, which we can see in the South Pacific as well.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2285676/How-China-enslaving-world-Beijings-ruthless-leaders-subjugate-armies-foreign-workers-opium-plunder-resources-globe–theyve-got-Britain-sights.html
But even though it includes such truths as…
…the astute geopolitical analyst will not ignore the fact the West has done and still does this, as well. For example, dealing with Saddam, dealing with the Shah of Iran, with Pinochet, with all sorts of ruthless bastards. So don’t get too carried away with the self-righteous angle if you’re interested enough to go and read China’s Silent Army by Juan Pablo Cardenal and Heriberto Araujo, will you.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 6:11 pm
Reid (13,094) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 5:53 pm
Exactly Reid. Their house construction system is far superior than what we have here. When the big ones hit us, a lot of housing is just going to flop over. Get rid of your chimney’s, i’ve done a few removals for clients and the last was the geologist that setup our geology dept at auckland uni, surprisingly he told me all about our subduction zone of the coast of Wellywood.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 6:17 pm
kowtow (3,794) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 5:47 pm
I’m just exercising my right to be racist like everyone else here, Generally, you hire one in a top position and they bring in the rest for you. It’s racism but then i have them in the family and they tell me all about how the backdoor is held open by the one before.
This board isn’t racist? i must’ve woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 6:20 pm
“was the geologist that setup our geology dept at auckland uni, surprisingly he told me all about our subduction zone of the coast of Wellywood.”
Must be really amazing, that moment, when one Jaffa dick learns a deep secret,from another Jafa dick!
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 7:23 pm
I’m just exercising my right to be racist like everyone else here
I thought lefties hated stereotypes Azeraph. Isn’t that a form of wacism?
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 7:25 pm
Johnboy (9,965) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 6:20 pm
He was cool for an 80 year old, do the math, we had no geologists back in the early sixties with his qualifications, everything we know today with nz started from him and i can’t even remember his name but he did say one thing, “Your land ain’t worth shit after what’s coming gets through with it”
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 7:28 pm
Retired US basketballer Dennis Rodman has spent four days in North Korea where he met with reclusive leader Kim Jong-un. Rodman described him as “an awesome kid
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 7:41 pm
A recently discovered photo of ‘krazykiwi’ as a lad.
Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/34fz3pntbq6buh0/Cycling%202.jpg?m
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Oh dear, or dear. It’s really looking bleak for Gillard:
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 7:51 pm
nasska – lol. A bit smooth there. I’m more gorila’esq, and slightly, um, darker
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 7:52 pm
“Your land ain’t worth shit after what’s coming gets through with it”
Well who can argue with scientific analysis of that calibre Azeraph!
If you wish to be truly educated in matters of geology regarding NZ. I suggest you seek out the works of Dr. Graeme Stevens.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 7:52 pm
Ha good job and that’s what will happen to Obuma when the Yanks wake up and finally decide they really do need a redneck in their country.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 7:54 pm
Here is a link to get you started on the path to true enlightenment!
http://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/News-and-Events/Media-Releases/Fossil-book-published
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:00 pm
“You’re paranoid”, said the doc.
“You’re the 10th doctor to tell me that”, the patient replied. “You’re all in this together, aren’t you?”
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:10 pm
NEW ZEALAND MINISTRY OF HEALTH
THE MINISTRY HAS PROPOSED THAT
WARNING SIGNS BE PLACED ON BOOZE BOTTLES TO TIP OFF
DRINKERS ABOUT THE POSSIBLE PERIL OF POUNDING A PINT
OR TWO.
1. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may cause you to wake up with
Vote:breath that could knock a sea gull off a shit truck at 100 metres.
2. WARNING: consumption of alcohol is a major factor in dancing
like an arsehole.
3. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may cause you to tell the same
boring story over and over again until your friends want to SMASH
YOUR HEAD IN.
4. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may cause you to say things
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5. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may cause you to tell the boss
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Christmas party.
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morning.
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8. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may cause you to roll over in
the morning and see something really scary (whose species and or
> name
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9. WARNING: consumption of alcohol is the leading cause of
inexplicable rug burn on the forehead.
10. WARNING: consumption of alcohol may create the illusion that
you are tougher, handsomer and smarter than some really, really
big guy named Psycho.
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:21 pm
“…..A child’s relationship to both mother and father is inherent to marriage. Children conceived by other means may find themselves with people in parental roles who are in a same-sex relationship, but such relationships are not the origin of the child. It is possible for children to be nurtured in such a household, but however good that nurturing, it will not provide the biological link and security of identity and relationship that marriage naturally demands and confirms…..”
Did you see those words……….security of identity!
Those poor poor little children……no ‘equality’ for them…..no ‘security of identity’ for them…but ‘identity’ for other children! Tsk Tsk!
“….In other words, a mistaken marriage policy would distort people’s understanding of the kind of relationship that spouses are to form and sustain. And that is likely to erode people’s adherence to marital norms of permanence and exclusivity that are essential to the common good because children need them.
The State records marriage to ensure it is not taken lightly. State involvement tests a couple’s mutual consent to each other and to the purposes of their marriage. But this State involvement can only make sense if one of the purposes inherent in marriage is children.
Through the State, society discourages marrying people from failing their obligations to each other, and hence to their children. Likewise, the State records the births of children, the deaths of their natural parents, and marital dissolution, all in the best interests of children.
Similarly, the State now tracks the complexities of assisted reproductive technology – the use of donors and surrogates – again for the sake of children. (However, we think these technological practices fragment parenting. When a child gains a committee of parents, her origin and identity lose definition. She is put at risk by practices that dissipate the security of relationship to her natural mother and father.)…..”
Did you see that?……………”…But this State involvement can only make sense if one of the purposes inherent in marriage is children…..’
What the fuck is John Key creating for the next generation? The State having less concern for the welfare of children that it has had in the past? Tsk Tsk.
This BTW is taken from an arguement against Gay Marriage and was presented to the Australian Federal Government. Gay Marriage has been turned down twice in the Australian Parliment and will fail to be made into law.
http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2011/05/20/3222067.htm
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:25 pm
Not going to Lynda and Donna’s wedding then I guess Hariett?
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:29 pm
Harriet (1,220) Says:
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:21 pm
“…..A child’s relationship to both mother and father is inherent to marriage. Children conceived by other means may find themselves with people in parental roles who are in a same-sex relationship, but such relationships are not the origin of the child. It is possible for children to be nurtured in such a household, but however good that nurturing, it will not provide the biological link and security of identity and relationship that marriage naturally demands and confirms…..”
———————
Well what ya got to say about the three kids I watched today whose Dad was a patched Mongrel mob yob and the mother inplicit in that as well. The kids look like they are dragged up.
So much for that relationship and the kids future. P.S. knifing at that place last week after a party around the road and an attempted sexual assult inthe next door school grounds. Nice neighbours. all living at your’s and my expense in a HNZ house.
What matters is love and care. The rest is semantics.
Vote:But I doubt you will ever understand that.
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:29 pm
Nup.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:38 pm
God you are so churlish V2.
When David/Russell/Hone becomes our next PM the extra tax you will get to pay will give those poor HNZ folks you just mentioned a heat pump/insulation/new carpet etc.
Once they feel that the rest of us value them as citizens they will stop being so naughty!
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:38 pm
kaiser report now.
Vote:RT.tv
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:40 pm
“….What matters is love and care.. The rest is semantics….”
What matters is parenting. Gays can care, love and nuture children, but that is not all that parenting is.
A child in a gay relationship, will be suffering the loss of one or both of their parents their entire childhood. And it is manufactured loss. In unfortunate situations in the past when children have suffered the loss of a parent[s] their priority as children is what is addressed first.
If a child is fully adopted into a gay relationship, that child would have lost both his mother and father – and had them replaced with a father/father mother/mother: a second order arrangement. Manufactured second best practice.
No it is not semantics – for children, in ‘their’ childhood !
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:49 pm
Surely Harriet if Donna dresses in a Dolly Parton outfit and Lynda dresses as a good old rootin, shootin, and fishin bloke (as I have heard) any sprogs would be in no doubt at all who their father was?
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:52 pm
Rubbish.
Thousands of kids lost their parents in hundreds of wars onlyto be raised by strangers.
Are you saying that all the kids felt lonely, abandoned and grew up as societies rubbish.
Because if you are you display a total ignorance and a lack of knowledge and contact with lots of them.
Sure they would have rather had mum and dad but various factors beyond their control decided it wasn’t to be.
That didn’t necessarily destroy all those young lives.
What ever works.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:55 pm
One for you johnboy.
http://screencast.com/t/kPfeXQ3c7tE
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:56 pm
Oh and two for Harriet and friends.
http://screencast.com/t/D6nTXYpZX0
http://screencast.com/t/4n62sevf
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:59 pm
And for the God botherers.
http://screencast.com/t/dnih10Xfohc
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:59 pm
He he. I just pray for another round of free drinks to help make me as gay as I can be!
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Now we know what Gareth Morgan REALLY fears!!!!
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:03 pm
For a bit of fun for the adults and kids.
http://screencast.com/t/53IsWeAW
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:09 pm
Anniversary of Edgecumbe earthquake
Saturday, 2, Mar, 2013 4:44PM
Today marks the 26th anniversary of a powerful earthquake that ripped through the eastern Bay of Plenty.
March 2, 1987 was a Monday, and just after 1.42PM a shallow quake of 6.3 on the Richter scale caused widespread damage in the area and was felt over most of the North Island.
More than fifty per cent of houses in Edgecumbe were damaged.
An 80 tonne locomotive was rolled over.
A seven kilometre rift – over one metre wide and two metres deep in parts – tore through the Rangitaiki Plains.
Over 6,000 domestic and industrial insurance claims were made, the largest was for more than $140 million, for the Bay Milk dairy processing plant.
Samlkl by conparison to Chch. But it could happen again anytime.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:15 pm
This will get all your mates goin johnboy. Gillard chopping the climate change dept.
In this climate, one department’s not safe
by: JOE KELLY
From: The Australian
March 02, 2013 12:00AM
LABOR is considering dissolving the $218 million-a-year Climate Change Department as part of a cost-saving restructure that could see it merged with another government bureaucracy.
The department is part of a $1.6 billion-a-year climate change behemoth in place to administer the government’s carbon tax. It also includes the Clean Energy Regulator, the Climate Change Authority and the Office of the Renewable Energy Regulator.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:22 pm
A BRISBANE burger joint is facing a consumer backlash after they delivered condoms to letterboxes across Brisbane to promote their beef patties.
The condom packets bear the slogan ”get intimate with our new premium beef” and were delivered to letterboxes across New Farm, West End and Kelvin Grove at the weekend.
Vote:- See more at: http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/central/the-boys-at-burger-urge-and-their-latest-marketing-stunt-thats-offending-customers/story-fn8m0qb4-1226535608322#sthash.t25wLVLO.dpuf
March 2nd, 2013 at 9:26 pm
THE advertising watchdog has thrown out a complaint against a Brisbane burger joint after they used an image of a woman licking a cow’s face to promote their premium beef.
The Advertising Standards Board dismissed the complaint which described the Burger Urge image as loathsome, sick, wrong and perverted.
But the Board ruled most people would realise the image had been photoshopped, and while it would be considered distasteful by most people, it was not overly sexualised or provocative.
Vote:- See more at: http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/central/christians-upset-over-the-poster-of-a-woman-licking-a-cow-to-promote-a-burger-chain/story-fn8m0qb4-1226587066208#sthash.qmNiOBOg.dpuf
March 3rd, 2013 at 12:01 am
Pet hates:
Pseudo American kiwi morons.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/8371864/Kids-TV-more-American-than-US
“I have noticed some Americanisms slipping into his language. But it comes from the music too. We are so immersed in American culture here – it’s a bit grotesque.”- Kiwi genius mother Michelle Lander finds Americanisms grotesque and yet the irony of naming her child a US inspired and copied first name ‘Hunter’ escapes the woman. Fucking hell what a fuckwit.
And don’t name your child India. That’s just wrong mate. Sorry Philip Leishman but that’s eye-roll stuff. Hello? Why not call your kid Greece? Or Rotovegas? Fucking idiots.
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