Grey Power

March 11th, 2013 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

Mathew Dearnaley at NZ Herald reports:

A senior official has complained about the planned increase in immigrants in Auckland – prompting claims from his national president that his submission is racist.

Auckland zone director wrote in a submission to Auckland Council that the community and lifestyle of the region’s older residents “is under serious threat from the rapid and huge changes in size and ethnic mix projections included in the Auckland Plan”.

His submission also calls on Auckland Council to hold a forum to make decisions about the Super City’s “optimum size and ethnicity”.

It is not at all racist to say the pace of immigration is too high. It is racist though to say we only want people from certain ethnicities.

One size should not fit all when it comes to hairdressing licence fees in a multi-cultural Auckland, says Grey Power regional director Bill Rayner.

Arguing against a standardised fee of $207 across the region, Mr Rayner has referred Auckland Council to the varied hair types .

“It is clear that in South Auckland with a large Pasifika population, [with] big people with good heads of hair, the hairdresser needs are quite different from Remuera where perms and pin curls are probably still a key feature of the hairdressers’ professional skill,” he wrote.

Members of the Asian population have very straight hair, and “due recognition should be given to the greater productivity that results from cutting thinning hair in areas of a high population of seniors”.

Oh dear. I think his comments speak for themselves.

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35 Responses to “Grey Power”

  1. Brian Harmer (686 comments) says:

    What I don’t understand , is why he thinks he can make such a submission purporting to represent Grey Power.

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  2. wat dabney (3,716 comments) says:

    hairdressing licence fees

    Well there’s your problem.

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  3. gump (1,542 comments) says:

    Why do hair dressers need to be licensed?

    What purpose does the license serve?

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  4. Black with a Vengeance (1,610 comments) says:

    I bet he’s a regular round these ways as well :)

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  5. RightNow (6,834 comments) says:

    You’re a regular round these ways BWAV. What’s your point?

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  6. thedavincimode (6,589 comments) says:

    When did kowtow move to Auckland?

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  7. itstricky (1,689 comments) says:

    Dpf. Did you deliberately, or accidentally leave off his statement about his comments being tounge-in-cheek? doesn’t excuse them but I don’t think cut n paste selectiveness is entirely kosher either. Another tirade about soundbites and selective editing?

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  8. Black with a Vengeance (1,610 comments) says:

    Hmmm…good question RN.

    Hold your breath while I think of an answer and with any luck I won’t have to tell you what it is.

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  9. ByterNZ (26 comments) says:

    Xenophobia != Racism! I’m sick of everyone overusing the “R” word!

    It’s not like the difference isn’t easy to spot:
    Racism: They don’t want those people because they’re inherently inferior based on their race.
    Xenophobia: They don’t want those people because they aren’t New Zealanders.
    (Real reason: They don’t want those people because they can’t compete with the superior work ethic that is in their culture).

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  10. mikemikemikemike (319 comments) says:

    I don’t think immigration is the problem, its the type of immigrants we are bringing in. Allowing refugees who would take years of working for a good wage before they started to be net taxpayers (taking into account the massive amount of assistance they get to begin with) to be able to bring in their extended family for ‘support’ (apparently to assist in the integration process – counter intuitive if you ask me). Not to mention the swathes of cheap labour and dubious background-ed folk many of whom make up the bulk of our ‘selected’ migrants means we are ending up with the worlds scum turning up on our doors.

    Our low wage/high living cost economy is causing our country to be avoided by the ‘good’ migrants, and if they do come here it is usually only as a stepping stone to Aussie.

    It’s a damn shame really.

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  11. Keeping Stock (10,166 comments) says:

    Hardly surprising then that Grey Power is New Zealand First’s chief source of support.

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  12. Jack5 (4,818 comments) says:

    ByterNZ posted at 5.07:

    (Real reason: They don’t want those people because they can’t compete with the superior work ethic that is in their culture)

    What “those people” are you talking about, Byter? Samoans? Tongans? Chinese? Afghan boat people?

    Rather than being related to the vague concept of race, varying work ethics may well be more affected by factors including religion (or absence of it). Confucians may work harder than Communists, if you discount the 80 or so Red billionaires in China’s Parliament. Confucians certainly believe in delayed gratification and provide a good family background for entrepreneuriship.

    The great sociologist, philosopher and economist Max Weber, thought Protestantism was a spur for enterprise and work more than was Catholicism.

    Work propensity may even be related more to climate. Who can blame people in hot countries for taking a midday siesta? Or Siberian Russians for staying inside when its 45 below?

    We New Zealanders are thought generally to be weekend oriented, but this lifestyle and the Welfare State are what attract most current migrants. IMHO they come either for the state safety blanket or to chill out. Restaurants, dairies, takeaway joints, taxis – but how many new export industries have migrants created recently? Fuck all.

    And there are a helluva lot of New Zealanders who slog hard for a living. I hope, that before you are snide about them you have done hard yakker such as digging coal, loading hay bales, shearing sheep, slogging over hills like a police constable on search and rescue work, or getting up before dawn day after day to milk cows.

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  13. Reid (16,085 comments) says:

    But I thought according to Hone and his mum and Margaret Mutu and Ringinui Walker and Ken Mair and a whole lot of other Maori’s, it’s impossible for a Maori to be racist because they’re simply reacting to oppwession from all the rest of us, who are, of course, racist. What a puzzle.

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  14. mikemikemikemike (319 comments) says:

    ^ What exactly does that have to do with the topic Reid – Did I miss the memo on ‘lets bash Maori day’?

    This is about an old white guy having a go that there are not enough young white guys to replace him when he croaks….

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  15. Reid (16,085 comments) says:

    What exactly does that have to do with the topic Reid

    He has challenged Mr Rayner – who is part Maori – to define optimum ethnicity, calling it “a horrifying concept which would not be out of place in the apartheid era in South Africa”….

    …But Mr Rayner was last night sticking to his guns, saying he was offended by such criticism of his plea for Auckland to adopt some sort of population policy rather than accepting unprecedented changes to its size and ethnic makeup.

    Among the plan’s predictions is that Asian people will account for 30 per cent of Auckland’s population by 2021 – up from 19 per cent in the 2006 census and and 5.5 per cent in 1991.

    He said that as a descendant of settlers who arrived here in 1845 and of Ngati Kahungungu, he was a product of generations of cultural assimulation but was worried about the social impact of such a large shift, a concern he believed was shared by professional demographers.

    “I think New Zealand has had very good integration, but when you get the traditional core societal structure suddenly shifted, it’s a different issue.”

    Sorry if you missed that part of it, much easier to blame wacism on “old white guys” isn’t it. BTW, isn’t that both ageism and wacism? You might have to hand in your Liarbore membership if you keep that up, mmmm. Luckily though you just derided old white people so perhaps they’ll let it slide this time.

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  16. mikemikemikemike (319 comments) says:

    Alright, if I can reword my response to This is about an old guy of a given ethnicity having a go that there are not enough young guys of a given ethnicity to replace him when he croaks…. My point still remains this story is about people having a problem with immigration, trying to hijack this thread into another ‘fuck those Maori’ thread is rather easy to see through.

    As to your last point, I would respond but I don’t want to take you away from your finger painting…..muppet.

    Regards
    National Voter

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  17. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Oldies rock! He can say whatever he likes.

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  18. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    joana’s contribution reinforces what Keeping Stock said at 5:25pm

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  19. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    I alway argue against euthanasia and then the Bills of this world come along and completely undermine ya.

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  20. kowtow (7,909 comments) says:

    When was the NZ electorate ever asked about whether this should be a “multi racial” or multicultural” society?

    More major policy being pushed from the top.

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  21. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Been polishing the jackboots kowtow? Thought you’d have been along to be loathsome earlier

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  22. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    He was watching TV ‘news’ aka 60 minutes.

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  23. HC (152 comments) says:

    “Grey power” is NOT necessarily always that well represented in “grey” matter, I presume.

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  24. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Slinging off at elderly people..How tedious. Of course I agree with you Kowtow..The gates were opened in 1987 by a Nat govt??? I cannot remember exactly. Do you know? PEB doesn’t appear to like facts.

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  25. wreck1080 (3,794 comments) says:

    But, why is it racist to say we don’t want more chinese for example?

    I wouldn’t call someone racist because they’d prefer less chinese or pacific islanders or australians or whatever.

    Even some chinese wish there was less chinese immigration. . . does that make them racist? ? ?

    Chinese immigration is contributing to house price inflation — so , wishing for less chinese is not because they are chinese but because of the effects they have on house prices.

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  26. kowtow (7,909 comments) says:

    p eastbay is the one who needs to polish off his jackboots as my comments favour democracy,not rule by elites.

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  27. tvb (4,240 comments) says:

    I cannot wait for these old relics to die out. They are basically angry white people. Loathe all of them.

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  28. kowtow (7,909 comments) says:

    tvb

    you’re both ageist and racist.

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  29. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Wreck ..it is not racist.
    My Chinese husband said many years ago that it would not be a good idea for the NZ govt to let too many Chinese people in here because ”they would change the place too much.” Does AK look the same to you?

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  30. Bob R (1,355 comments) says:

    It’s sadly all too predictable seeing the cries of “r8cist” to deny any discussion of rates of immigration. According to Pew research the world significant majorities in 47 countries surveyed want reduced immigration. That’s for developed and developing countries.

    http://www.pewglobal.org/2007/10/04/world-publics-welcome-global-trade-but-not-immigration/

    Isn’t it amazing how the media and politicians have a strangle hold on this issue to thwart popular opinion? It’s a case where democracy has been subverted.

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  31. Bob R (1,355 comments) says:

    “It is not at all racist to say the pace of immigration is too high. It is racist though to say we only want people from certain ethnicities.”

    In that case Japan, Israel, Tibet etc are r8cist? Sometimes r8cist policies make sense in terms of what is best for a country. The word r8cist is a 20th century communist neo-logism btw – iirc, Trotsky came up with it.

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  32. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Great posts Bob
    Many other countries could be added to your list.
    Singapore has recently tightened its work /visa regs because of local objection to the number of foreigners and an increase in nationalism but previously it had a policy of bringing in certain workers but no Africans. Africans are over represented in crime stats in many countries they go to , so the policy was just common , economic and social sense. Here in NZ , you can hardly say anything about who is over represented in crime stats.

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  33. cha (3,840 comments) says:

    Trotsky came up with it.

    Wrong Jew.

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  34. OneTrack (2,782 comments) says:

    The editorial in the Herald today had a rant from one of the unnamed progressives who decide what we should think “Editorial: Rant sad way to highlight racial trend”. Basically the main point of the piece is that you should think what the writer thinks and any dissension should be suppressed. Unfortunately most of the commenters disagreed. But the herald decided to prove their point and disabled comments at around 3pm this afternoon. Dissension was suppressed.

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  35. Dexter (280 comments) says:

    so the policy was just common , economic and social sense. Here in NZ , you can hardly say anything about who is over represented in crime stats.

    Well we can see that Asians are vastly under represented in every negative statistic including crime and vastly over represented in every positive statistics including education and employment. And AK at night time still looks vastly the same to me, full of violent drunks turning it into a war zone, surprisingly the vast majority engaged in such activity all appear to be locals as opposed to immigrants.

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